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Erik McClure - DioSynth [Taiko]

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Aisha
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Sylphi wrote:

Sorry for being late. Hi! Don't worry :D

[Kantan]
  1. 00:36:069 (50) - Consider changing to k for consistency. comparing to other similar sound (or considering overall patterns), only this is started with kat.
    Oh yeah I've fix it yesterday :p
  2. 00:43:269 (63,64,65) - 00:48:069 (70,71,72) - I think It's not good idea to use different color patterns though these are similar pitch patterns. in these part, using same pattern would make beginners able to play more easier probably.
    Applied
  3. 00:51:069 (75,76,77) - It should be changed to d k d for consistency with 00:55:869. there is no reason that these similar things is diffrent.
    I think holding current one is fine. The reason is I'm following main pitches at making third one don on both cases. So making just the middle note different shouldn't be that problem imo :p. Also dinamicity :3
  4. 01:12:969 (103,104) - Swap these for consistency with 01:08:469 - 01:17:769 (108,109) -.
    Fixed!
  5. 01:21:669 (111) - Change to k for consistency.
    I think using don to emphatise next kat is fine. Also isn't that different than before one
  6. 01:32:469 (122,123) - Swap these. overall feeling (melody, drums, etc.) not changed. so there is no reason to start with k.
    I think melody changes from 01:27:669 - . That kick sound (kat one) is fine imo :) also next 4/1 does the same
  7. 02:08:169 (48) - Well, It may be asked whether It's necessary to map 5 stream with 1/1 divisor. consequently, it make continuous long patterns appear immediately. I think It would be nice to add note on 02:10:569 and make it 5 stream instead.
    Yeah I've remapped almost whole kiais yesterday but forgot to update xD
  8. 02:12:969 (59) - Similar reason as above. If you apply above mod, It should be removed for consistency.
    ^
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - 01:27:819 (15) - 01:29:019 (18) - Yeah, there is definitely sound. but It's hard to catch the rhythm at this difficulty.
    I think isn't that hard to be honest. They're simply a double with emphasis on second kick ^^
  2. 00:23:469 (46) - Seeing other similar thing, that all are started with don note.
    Changed!
  3. 00:27:369 (60) - Change to k for consistency. Also, in the melody, It's little higher than previous thing.
    Right! Also consistency with 00:22:569 (44) -
  4. 00:35:469 (86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93) - Similar as 00:23:469. there is no specific reason (sound, pattern, etc.) to change the basic shape. It just make the flow break, make players feel weird consequently.
    It's just about dinamicity. Isn't that hard to read considering there's only one note difference between them :p
  5. 00:40:569 (103) - the pitch is higher than previous thing. how about changing this to kat?
    Agree
  6. 00:41:769 (106,107,108,109) - Considering the melody, k d d k would be more fit the music.
    Sounds great
  7. 00:46:569 (118,119,120,121) - Same as above.
    Holding it to make it a little different, also third and fourth are more important than others imo
  8. 01:00:969 (152,153) - Swap these for consistency with 01:05:769 (161,162)
    Done
  9. 01:34:269 (33) - Change to k for making pattern? ddd / kkk feels not bad for me.
    First one is more descendant than second one so making this to emphatise third note on both cases is fine :p
  10. 01:45:669 (10) - 01:43:269 (6) - Respectively k, d for consistency with after these patterns.
    Same reason as above
  11. 01:56:769 (2,3) - Most patterns in kiai time basically has the pattern like as o___o_o_o_... but only this thing starts with o_ooo_o_o_... shape. actually, itself doesn't matter. but if you consider consistency with 02:06:069, it should be removed.
    Fixed
  12. 02:03:369 (26) - k for consistency.
    Fixed
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:619 (11) - It's a bit weird feeling and there is actually no sound to map.
    I feel like there's sound, and it's clearly a kat so holding
  2. 00:16:569 (41) - k for consistency.
    Done
  3. 00:21:669 (62) - How about moving this to 00:21:519 following the melody? as result, it would be more natural to play, I think...
    1. 00:24:069 (75) - 00:26:469 (87) - 00:28:869 (100) - Similar as above. but It's not forced.
    Hmmm I feel like current one is more natural than that. New rhythm on Kiai starts on 00:21:669 - exactly so using kick here is fine ^^
  4. 00:30:669 (110,111,112,113,114) - It makes me feel awkward. I think, it's necessary to change to o_o_o_o___o pattern because the actual melody is like that. Same opinion about the follow things:
    1. 00:33:069 (123,124,125,126,127) - Same as above
    2. 00:35:469 (136,137,138,139,140) -
    3. 00:37:869 (149,150,151,152,153) -
      I'm not totally sure if I'm changing second half of Kiai's right now tbh. I was thinking a lot about this but I feel a melody change between first half and second. For now I'm holding but if I'm requested... I'll change :p
  5. 00:41:769 (167) - Should be k to follow melody. It's higher than previous thing.
    Fixed
  6. 00:45:669 (181) - k for consistency with 00:40:869 (164)
    I think changing both for d d is better tho
  7. 00:46:269 (183,184) - Swapping these would be more fit the music, in my opinion.
    Hmmm holding current one for now, I think it's better
  8. 00:52:269 (207) - Considering 00:56:469 part, It would be better to change to don for consistency.
    You're right :arrow: changed
  9. 00:58:869 - There is a big gap between Futsuu and Muzukashii even considering the feeling of this part. It probably can fix if you remove some 1/4 triplet... I think, It needs to reduce more the density on Muzukashii.
    1. Futsuu vs Muzukashii
    Totally right, fixed!
  10. 01:34:569 (348) - 01:35:619 - Respectively, Change to kat, Add don. It probably make patterns look more balanced, in my opinion.
    Uhh I like this section to be honest. Holding for now :p
  11. 01:42:519 (372) - 01:43:719 (375) - Swap these for consistency.
    Hmm I'm holding since I'm following the high pitch here so there's not the same through the whole section
  12. 01:51:219 (402) - Remove for consistency.
    Fixed
  13. 01:57:369 - Same as 00:21:669
    Same comment
  14. 02:06:069 - Similar as 00:30:669. It seems to be intended to make more harder but I feel like that some rhythm placement is not fit the music.
    Same ^^
Really thanks for modding boy! Don't worry about late, still really helpful and sorry if I've fixed somethings by myself, forgot to update :c
Kin
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Kin
Hi there!

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:12:669 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - How about using k ddkdk ? According to the way you used k to follow the melody, I'd say, it's pretty decent here.
  2. 00:15:144 (55) - Might be just me. But I think this k, create a weird flow. I'd suggest you to remove it. Or, you can maybe change it to d, but if you change it to d, I'd also suggest you to change this one 00:14:919 (53) - into a k, for a better flow.
  3. 00:19:869 (94) - change this one into k ? It flow pretty well, and sounds good with the melody & your dkddk.
  4. 00:21:069 (104,105,106,107) - those doublet are quite weird to play in my opinion. There's no real sound here 00:21:144 - & you're even skipping this drum 00:21:219 - . It also suddenly break your k spam, which follow the background melody. I'd highly suggest you to just move this note 00:21:144 (105) - 1/4 later.
  5. 00:21:069 (104) - If you fixed the previous point, how about changing this one into d ? It goes very well with the melody. Because the k spam, does follow the melody using the same pitch pretty well, but this one 00:21:069 (104) - goes down.
    if you fix both last suggest, don't forget about similar one!
  6. 00:29:469 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - I know what you're trying to follow with your k on this pattern. However, I'd say using ddkdk k would follow better the melody. We can feel much better the melody increasing in intensity & pitch.
  7. 00:31:269 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - I know you want to make symmetric/mirror pattern. But it actually flow quite weird. Mainly because this triplet 00:31:269 (196,197,198) - start on 1/1.
  8. 00:34:119 (222) - up to you, but this one as k is really cool with the melody.
  9. 00:39:669 (275) - This note will get more emphasis as D. Because it's surrounded by k.
  10. 01:10:719 (488,489) - how about swapping those note ? I feel like 01:10:869 (489) - will get more emphasis.
  11. 01:42:669 - the way your suddenly mapping on drum is quite strange in this case. Changing focus this suddenly in the same part can be quite weird to play.
  12. 02:20:469 - You can just end your spinner here.
[yu]

  1. 02:20:469 - You can just end spinner here .
    Nice diff!
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:08:619 (11) - I can understand why you want to use a note here. But consider deleting it? Next part doesn't have any 5 notes 1/2.
  2. 00:29:469 (106) - change this one into a d ? those high pitched 00:29:619 (107,108) - will get more emphasis.
  3. 00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - Changing your structure the 2nd part of the kiai is quite weird in my opinion. But it's still ok, since it's currently changing at an important point of the kiai.
  4. 00:44:394 (180) - better delete this note, it's currently the only triplet in this part.
  5. 00:52:869 (213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - this patttern is currently the same difficulty as some pattern from your kiai time. I'd highly suggest you to nerf it.
  6. 00:57:669 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - I'd say almost the same thing here, but I think, just deleting this note 00:58:119 (239) - will be ok.
  7. 00:58:869 - 01:08:469 - I know why you're mapping some triplet here. But it'd be actually better to not map in on Muzukashii. Using triplet this way on those kind of slow part, I don't really recommand it for muzu.
  8. 01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - there's a lot of triplet in your 2nd kiai. Your 1st kiai doesn't have this much triplet. Consider reducing triplet usage. (at least half). While I'm talking about triplet, I would not recommand using multiple color triplet on muzukashii, for a 200bpm song.
  9. 02:20:469 - as I said about other diff, better finish spinner here.
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - even if they're easy to tap, even if I know why you're mapping it, better delete it. You're not using any 1/2 in the next part.
  2. 01:13:119 (175) - Almost the same thing as Muzu. I know why you're mapping it, but there's no 1/2 in this part, which kinda make the 1/2 usage quite inconsistent. Better just remove it.
  3. 01:18:069 - 01:27:669 - I don't really understand how you're mapping this part, and on what. Maybe it's better to just use a note every 4/1 ? It's really a calm part, and it does follow the strings.
  4. 01:27:669 - 01:37:269 - with the current patterns used on this part. I really can't feel any ascending difficulty, with the ascending intensity of the song. I'd highly suggest you to start this part with really simple pattern, and use a little more complex each time the intensity increase.
[Kantan]

  1. the 4/1 break would be actually better here : 00:28:869 - or here 00:30:069 - (using a 4/1 break, before your bookmark, or just after will be better)
  2. 01:12:969 (103) - 01:17:769 (108) - Better not use 1/1 on this part. This part is currently more calm than the previous one (and previous one doesn't have any 1/1)
  3. I'd say, it'd be better to delete those note : 01:31:569 (120,121) - 01:33:969 (125) - for a better density increase according to the intensity increase from the song.
  4. 01:55:869 (21) - I'd say, better let 4/1 break before starting your kiai.
  5. 01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - your 4/1 break on this kiai is quite strange in my opinion. Better use the same structure as the 1st kiai, of if you want something different, try to find something more consistent.
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I'm still not done. Just sleeping a while & I'll finish your mod!
Later than expected, but I'm now done!
good luck!
Jaltzu
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Joined April 2013
Jaltzu
Hello, M4M from my queue


Muzu
00:20:319 - I feel like there should be k here.
00:23:319 (72) - Change to k since the sound is same as in 00:23:019 (70,71) -
00:24:969 (82) - Change to d to make it more distinct from 00:24:669 (80) -
00:29:469 (106) - Change to d because the pitch rises significantly at 00:29:619 (107) -
00:40:869 (166) - k fits way better imo.
00:42:069 (170) - ↑
00:42:369 (171,172) - dk
00:44:769 (182) - Change to d and move to 00:45:069. Fits the rhythm better
00:45:669 (185) - k

00:46:869 (189,190,191,192,193) - Maybe this instead:


00:48:369 (194,195,196) - k k d
01:08:169 (289,290,291) - kkk
01:36:669 (358) - d to emphasize pitch change at 01:36:969 (359) -
01:37:269 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384) - The number of unmapped sounds in this part makes it feel kinda awkward. Maybe add a few doubles or something?

Oni
00:11:169 (22,23,24) + 00:13:569 (36,37,38) + 00:15:969 (51,52,53) - I feel like these could be d k k instead
00:14:469 (42,43,44,45,46) - d k k d k fits better imo.
00:45:819 (251) - k for the background drum sound?
00:51:819 (284) - k so that it matches 00:49:419 (270) -
I like this pattern: Add k to 01:09:369 , Ctrl+G to 01:09:519 (379,380) - (or both d) and change 01:09:969 (381) - to d
01:11:469 (388) - Move to 01:11:769
01:16:419 (412) - Change to d and add k to 01:16:569
01:45:969 (499,500,501,502,503,504) - d k k kdk Sounds better.

Inner Oni
00:09:519 Add k
00:14:469 (48,49,50,51,52) - I think ddkkd fits the pitch changes better.
00:30:969 (194) - Change to k
00:33:369 (216) - ↑
00:35:769 (238) - ↑
00:38:169 (260) - ↑
00:38:469 (262,263,264,265,266,267) - I like kdd kkd better.
00:46:869 (324,325,326) - I think this should be ddd both to match lower pitch/volume and to emphasize 00:48:069 (332,333,334) -
00:53:769 (377,378) - Ctrl+G
00:57:969 (410) - k
01:12:969 (497) - d to distinguish it from 01:12:819 (496) -

Overall, pretty solid mapset. Not sure how much of my feedback is actually useful at this point, but hope it helps at least a bit. GL for rank. :)
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

Kin wrote:

Hi there! Hi Kin!

[Inner Oni]

  1. 00:12:669 (34,35,36,37,38,39) - How about using k ddkdk ? According to the way you used k to follow the melody, I'd say, it's pretty decent here.
    Yeah I agree with you on this ^^ changed
  2. 00:15:144 (55) - Might be just me. But I think this k, create a weird flow. I'd suggest you to remove it. Or, you can maybe change it to d, but if you change it to d, I'd also suggest you to change this one 00:14:919 (53) - into a k, for a better flow.
    Uhh I'm doubting a lot with this one tbh. I feel like this one doesn't matter at that point as being really important on this way since current main pitches (00:15:369 (58) - as k and 00:15:219 (56,57) - as d) are well followed so it just makes this a little more dynamic :p. I think I'll hold it
  3. 00:19:869 (94) - change this one into k ? It flow pretty well, and sounds good with the melody & your dkddk.
    fixed
  4. 00:21:069 (104,105,106,107) - those doublet are quite weird to play in my opinion. There's no real sound here 00:21:144 - & you're even skipping this drum 00:21:219 - . It also suddenly break your k spam, which follow the background melody. I'd highly suggest you to just move this note 00:21:144 (105) - 1/4 later.
    I think using 00:21:069 (104,107) - as kats is the most important thing on this section. Using these doubles create a great emphasis about these strong sounds. About following the middle note I think isn't that neccesary since I focus on the strong sounds (specially when using kat notes). My doubles noo ; ; jk
  5. 00:21:069 (104) - If you fixed the previous point, how about changing this one into d ? It goes very well with the melody. Because the k spam, does follow the melody using the same pitch pretty well, but this one 00:21:069 (104) - goes down.
    if you fix both last suggest, don't forget about similar one!
    Well I got your point. Previous kat kind of rest importance on this hard kick but I think they're pretty neccesary according to rhythm. Just by using 4 kats in a row I don't feel like it's a real kat spam; I've seen lot of maps using even more streaks o:
  6. 00:29:469 (179,180,181,182,183,184,185) - I know what you're trying to follow with your k on this pattern. However, I'd say using ddkdk k would follow better the melody. We can feel much better the melody increasing in intensity & pitch.
    This 7notestream is commented a lot lol. I think current pattern isn't that good tbh but neccesary. I don't want to delete 7notestream cause I feel there's good rhythm to be mapped and also it's pretty fun for Inner Oni. Maybe I'll change to dkddkdk but for now I'm holding this ;;
  7. 00:31:269 (196,197,198,199,200,201,202) - I know you want to make symmetric/mirror pattern. But it actually flow quite weird. Mainly because this triplet 00:31:269 (196,197,198) - start on 1/1.
    Agree with you. Deleted some notes to make a better flow here ^^
  8. 00:34:119 (222) - up to you, but this one as k is really cool with the melody.
    tbh I would prefer highly the current one since the only high pitch that I feel is right on 00:34:269 (223) - so using kat on that one could rest emphasis on that one ^^
  9. 00:39:669 (275) - This note will get more emphasis as D. Because it's surrounded by k.
    Agree! Fixed ~
  10. 01:10:719 (488,489) - how about swapping those note ? I feel like 01:10:869 (489) - will get more emphasis.
    Agree aswell :P
  11. 01:42:669 - the way your suddenly mapping on drum is quite strange in this case. Changing focus this suddenly in the same part can be quite weird to play.
    Yeah! I'm totally doubting about this... I'm in the limbo of something rankable/fun. I would really love if someone else help me with this one since I think it's completely readable but it's a little strange while playing. I'll try to hold it but if I really need to change then will do :3
  12. 02:20:469 - You can just end your spinner here.
    fixed!
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:08:619 (11) - I can understand why you want to use a note here. But consider deleting it? Next part doesn't have any 5 notes 1/2.
    I was really doubting about this tbh. I think current one is fine according to using 5 notes chain for a section change and totally following rhythm. I'll hold this for now but can wait for another comment about it :p
  2. 00:29:469 (106) - change this one into a d ? those high pitched 00:29:619 (107,108) - will get more emphasis.
    fixed ~
  3. 00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - Changing your structure the 2nd part of the kiai is quite weird in my opinion. But it's still ok, since it's currently changing at an important point of the kiai.
    Well you're right. Skylish told me the same about this. I was about to change this because consistency but if you hear this carefully you can notice there's a rhythm difference between the first half and second one ^^. I don't want honestly to change this but if it's really neccesary... then I'll need to do ; ;
  4. 00:44:394 (180) - better delete this note, it's currently the only triplet in this part.
    b...but there's a instrument shake ; ; and section change so I think holding is fine :C
  5. 00:52:869 (213,214,215,216,217,218,219,220) - this patttern is currently the same difficulty as some pattern from your kiai time. I'd highly suggest you to nerf it.
    yeah it's even harder lol I deleted 00:53:319 (216) -
  6. 00:57:669 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - I'd say almost the same thing here, but I think, just deleting this note 00:58:119 (239) - will be ok.
    fixed
  7. 00:58:869 - 01:08:469 - I know why you're mapping some triplet here. But it'd be actually better to not map in on Muzukashii. Using triplet this way on those kind of slow part, I don't really recommand it for muzu.
    It's kinda same reason as I've told b4. Following the current drum shake (even on slow part) is pretty nice and doesn't confuse anyone because song style :p
  8. 01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - there's a lot of triplet in your 2nd kiai. Your 1st kiai doesn't have this much triplet. Consider reducing triplet usage. (at least half). While I'm talking about triplet, I would not recommand using multiple color triplet on muzukashii, for a 200bpm song.
    Yeah you're totally right. I made some changes on second kiai (deleted triplets and fixed different colour patterns)
  9. 02:20:469 - as I said about other diff, better finish spinner here.
    Done
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:06:219 (3) - 00:07:419 (6) - even if they're easy to tap, even if I know why you're mapping it, better delete it. You're not using any 1/2 in the next part.
    Well I agree with you about not having a great consistency at all but I think I'm gonna hold them because I want to emphatise a different section against the first one. Doubles sound currently great imo and if I add some of them on next section it could be too hard w
  2. 01:13:119 (175) - Almost the same thing as Muzu. I know why you're mapping it, but there's no 1/2 in this part, which kinda make the 1/2 usage quite inconsistent. Better just remove it.
    Uhh I'm not totally sure about this tbh. But if you hear from 01:12:969 - I think that little shake in the instrument deserves to be mapped. I think isn't that hard for this section since isn't that slow compared to 01:18:069 - so using this for emphatising section change is good ^^
  3. 01:18:069 - 01:27:669 - I don't really understand how you're mapping this part, and on what. Maybe it's better to just use a note every 4/1 ? It's really a calm part, and it does follow the strings.
    Yeah I totally agree with you. I changed to 4/1 usage and following the flute :3
  4. 01:27:669 - 01:37:269 - with the current patterns used on this part. I really can't feel any ascending difficulty, with the ascending intensity of the song. I'd highly suggest you to start this part with really simple pattern, and use a little more complex each time the intensity increase.
    Agree aswell fixed ~
[Kantan]
  1. the 4/1 break would be actually better here : 00:28:869 - or here 00:30:069 - (using a 4/1 break, before your bookmark, or just after will be better)
    Hmmm I was a little confused with this tbh. On a first instance I used the current one because there's the section change and I'd pref to map it cuz it's really high. Then I tried your suggest (second one) and I made some changes through the Kiai so I change to that.
  2. 01:12:969 (103) - 01:17:769 (108) - Better not use 1/1 on this part. This part is currently more calm than the previous one (and previous one doesn't have any 1/1)
    Hmmm since I'm following the drum I think current one is better; there's a real calm part compared to 00:58:869 - . You can hear the flute difference
  3. I'd say, it'd be better to delete those note : 01:31:569 (120,121) - 01:33:969 (125) - for a better density increase according to the intensity increase from the song.
    tbh I just pref deleting 01:31:569 (120) - according to your same reason
  4. 01:55:869 (21) - I'd say, better let 4/1 break before starting your kiai.
    I pref holding current one since there's already a 4/1 break on 01:58:869 - and isn't that dense imo. Also it breaks a little the current consistency and there's a good sound that deserves to be mapped on 01:55:869 (21) -
  5. 01:56:469 - 02:15:669 - your 4/1 break on this kiai is quite strange in my opinion. Better use the same structure as the 1st kiai, of if you want something different, try to find something more consistent.
    I made some changes on this ^^
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I'm still not done. Just sleeping a while & I'll finish your mod!
Later than expected, but I'm now done!
good luck!
Really thanks for modding! Thanks for wishing luck aswell lol :)
Last edited by Aisha , edited 3 times in total.
Kith190
178 posts
Joined November 2015
Kith190
Hi NM as asked here
[General]
Since Oni wasn't made by you it should be considered as a main part of your mapset and has to follow the star spread. The difference held between kantan , futsuu and muzu isn't the same as between muzu-oni and oni-inner so... try to fix the spread
[Kantan]
00:15:069 - change to k (?)
00:22:869 (25,26) - i think that one of those should be k
00:44:469 - this is a low tone so d
00:44:469 - here i would place k d k d
00:54:069 (81) - this is a low tone so d
01:36:669 - I think that d would follow better this part according to the sound of 01:31:269 (119,120,121) - and 01:33:669 (124,125,126) -
01:59:469 - here you should put something because later on you don't leave a rest as this one and there is an evident sound
02:09:069 - same ^

[Futsuu]
00:08:619 - place a k or move here this one 00:08:769 -
00:25:269 (53) - d
00:34:869 - d
00:36:969 - k
00:36:969 - k
01:52:269 - k
02:00:969 (16,17) - control + g would be better to play
02:03:369 (24,25) - same ^
02:10:269 (47) - d for same reason^

[Muzukashii]
00:15:369 (37) - k
00:17:769 - k
00:27:369 - same sound as 00:28:569 -
00:51:369 - k (?)
01:34:569 (349) - i would suggest k
01:58:569 - k as 01:57:369 -
02:03:369 - same ^

[_yu68's Oni]
Pretty cool like this! there's only the problem I mentioned in General ^^

[Inner Oni]
here I would change just a pair of notes maybe nor worth mentioning. Nice work!

Hope this was helpful! Good luck for ranking!!
Aisha
837 posts
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Topic Starter
Aisha

Jaltzu wrote:

Hello, M4M from my queue Hey Jalt :3 thanks for comming!


Muzu
00:20:319 - I feel like there should be k here.
I would prefer a break before kiai instead making this that complex ;
00:23:319 (72) - Change to k since the sound is same as in 00:23:019 (70,71) -
fixed lol
00:24:969 (82) - Change to d to make it more distinct from 00:24:669 (80) -
but both sounds at same pitch I can feel :p holding ^^
00:29:469 (106) - Change to d because the pitch rises significantly at 00:29:619 (107) -
hahah I did on Kin mod so thanks for noticing too
00:40:869 (166) - k fits way better imo.
I think that could rest some importance of current k d who are following descendant rhythm :p
00:42:069 (170) - ↑
^
00:42:369 (171,172) - dk
Fixed
00:44:769 (182) - Change to d and move to 00:45:069. Fits the rhythm better
since I'm currently following drums instead the piano (or what the fuck that is) holding the current one is better specially talking about consistency
00:45:669 (185) - k
Same reason as above ; ;
00:46:869 (189,190,191,192,193) - Maybe this instead:

Wow that feels really good. Fixed even I'm not sure talking about consistency with that o:
00:48:369 (194,195,196) - k k d
Hmm still about following drums instead the cymbal ; w
01:08:169 (289,290,291) - kkk
Agree and changed next one to D
01:36:669 (358) - d to emphasize pitch change at 01:36:969 (359) -
Fixed
01:37:269 (360,361,362,363,364,365,366,367,368,369,370,371,372,373,374,375,376,377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384) - The number of unmapped
sounds in this part makes it feel kinda awkward. Maybe add a few doubles or something?
It's such a calm section... I think there's not neccesity to overmap this since the real fast part starts from 01:46:869 - and there's not a real fast sound to overmap

Inner Oni
00:09:519 Add k
I think that isn't neccesary. I got your point since there's a real slight cymbal sound but I would prefer to hold it since there's the slow part and that could be overmapped
00:14:469 (48,49,50,51,52) - I think ddkkd fits the pitch changes better.
I think current kkddk is fine since there's an ascendant rhythm according to drums (specially at 00:14:469 (48,52) - as kat) :P
00:30:969 (194) - Change to k
Fixed cuz kick
00:33:369 (216) - ↑
Already made ^^
00:35:769 (238) - ↑
^
00:38:169 (260) - ↑
^
00:38:469 (262,263,264,265,266,267) - I like kdd kkd better.
I agree with using kkd on the first pattern but second one needs to start with don since there's ascendant sound so if I use kat on first notes that will loss real importance
00:46:869 (324,325,326) - I think this should be ddd both to match lower pitch/volume and to emphasize 00:48:069 (332,333,334) -
Hmmm nah this one 00:47:169 (324) - is really higher compared to two next notes so k d d is fine imo
00:53:769 (377,378) - Ctrl+G
b...but they're both kats lol xD
00:57:969 (410) - k
fixed~
01:12:969 (497) - d to distinguish it from 01:12:819 (496) -
not currently neccesary since that emphatises next dons that are being used for the ascendant section change^^
Overall, pretty solid mapset. Not sure how much of my feedback is actually useful at this point, but hope it helps at least a bit. GL for rank. :)
Thanks about comment! Your feedback was really helpful so thanks for modding boy : D D


Kith190 wrote:

Hi NM as asked here Hi! Thanks for coming ^^
[General]
Since Oni wasn't made by you it should be considered as a main part of your mapset and has to follow the star spread. The difference held between kantan , futsuu and muzu isn't the same as between muzu-oni and oni-inner so... try to fix the spread
The current spread is fine imo. Even SR isn't that main problem on this current note difference is good between diffs (acceptable maybe xD. So I don't get why you're wondering about the lower diff spread ;
[Kantan]
00:15:069 - change to k (?)
I think that's so high for that section. By using kat that could be a little strong compared to the current d d d so I'll hold it ^^
00:22:869 (25,26) - i think that one of those should be k
I don't feel like one of them have a different pitch than the other tbh :c
00:44:469 - this is a low tone so d
Agree! Also consistency with 00:39:669 (59) -
00:44:469 - here i would place k d k d
I pref having a consistency and using some 4/1 breaks instead overmapping it :p
00:54:069 (81) - this is a low tone so d
I feel like there's a difference about this 00:49:269 (73) - and the before ones. The one you're pointing has almost the same pitch than this so it would be nice if I hold because consistency aswell
01:36:669 - I think that d would follow better this part according to the sound of 01:31:269 (119,120,121) - and 01:33:669 (124,125,126) -
But there's not reason to make them difference since they have the same pitch ; ;
01:59:469 - here you should put something because later on you don't leave a rest as this one and there is an evident sound
Kind of same comment as above. 4/1 breaks are pretty neccesary on a 200 bpm song so it would be so dense if I don't leave it
02:09:069 - same ^
^
[Futsuu]
00:08:619 - place a k or move here this one 00:08:769 -
Uhh... that would be so hard for the beggining imo :c. Let's let some action for Kiai
00:25:269 (53) - d
Why? D: there's no reason to make it different to 00:20:469 (38) - since it's a high pitch compared to 00:22:869 (46) -
00:34:869 - d
^
00:36:969 - k
^
00:36:969 - k
^
01:52:269 - k
^ (also I don't get why you suggest to change'em ; ;)
02:00:969 (16,17) - control + g would be better to play
^
02:03:369 (24,25) - same ^
^
02:10:269 (47) - d for same reason^
There's the same pitch on the three notes so it emphatises next don ^^
[Muzukashii]
00:15:369 (37) - k
I think using current d d is fine according to drum and guitar. There's not neccesity to use k d to emphatise descendant sound imo ^^
00:17:769 - k
^
00:27:369 - same sound as 00:28:569 -
The first one is really low compared to second. This helps at focusing on the ascendant pitch
00:51:369 - k (?)
But there's no reason to do ; ; I don't get why since it's low pitch :p
01:34:569 (349) - i would suggest k
I made another changes here instead that :3
01:58:569 - k as 01:57:369 -
02:03:369 - same ^
According to same reason I wrote above I'll hold them ^^
[Inner Oni]
here I would change just a pair of notes maybe nor worth mentioning. Nice work!
ThaNks! :3

Hope this was helpful! Good luck for ranking!!
Thanks for modding! It was helpful even I didn't accept at all it helped me for retaking a look :)
_yu68
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017
492 posts
Joined March 2015
_yu68

Sylphi wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]
  1. 00:47:919 (261) - 変な所にマップされた感じがちょっとあるので、00:47:769に移したほうがいいんじゃないかと… :arrow: moved
  2. 01:13:869 (400) - この辺は何を基準でマップしたのかよくわかりませんが、一応メロディー基準で見ると、ここよりは01:14:169のほうが曲には合うんです。 :arrow: スネアのような音を基準に、単調にならないようにするために様々なパターンを使っています。01:08:769 - や01:13:569 - などはスネアのような音を無視して3/2を使うことで、breakの役割を持たせています。
  3. 01:16:269 (411) - これも似た感じです、ここよりは01:16:569がいいんじゃないかと… :arrow: 同様にkeepとさせていただきます

Kin wrote:

[yu]

  1. 02:20:469 - You can just end spinner here . :arrow: fixed
    Nice diff! thanks <3

Jaltzu wrote:

Oni
00:11:169 (22,23,24) + 00:13:569 (36,37,38) + 00:15:969 (51,52,53) - I feel like these could be d k k instead :arrow: keep to show drum sounds
00:14:469 (42,43,44,45,46) - d k k d k fits better imo. :arrow: keep because of same reason
00:45:819 (251) - k for the background drum sound? :arrow: changed
00:51:819 (284) - k so that it matches 00:49:419 (270) - :arrow: keep for diversity
I like this pattern: Add k to 01:09:369 , Ctrl+G to 01:09:519 (379,380) - (or both d) and change 01:09:969 (381) - to d :arrow: i want to suppress long a little 1/2 to make this part as calmer
01:11:469 (388) - Move to 01:11:769 :arrow: keep to fit snare
01:16:419 (412) - Change to d and add k to 01:16:569 :arrow: keep because of same reason
01:45:969 (499,500,501,502,503,504) - d k k kdk Sounds better. :arrow: keep to show drum sounds
Thanks mod :)
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davidminh0111
1,335 posts
Joined January 2017
davidminh0111
Hello xfrac, from my modding queue:

[Kantan]
Your HP is too high, do 7 or 6.5 only

00:23:469: Change to k to flow better

00:37:869: ^

01:15:669:^ (not flow better, fit the pitch (slow down the song and you will get it or idk))

[Futsuu]
00:17:769: Add a note here to create a same amount of notes as the previous flow

00:24:969 (53 ,54): Ctrl + G to flow better. The k k will make it better : )

00:44:469 (114, 115): Ctrl + G again. Fit the pitch

[Muzukashii]
Well, good already

[_yu68's Oni]
00:25:719: kdk? I think it will fit the pitch and has a better flow on the previous note

00:36:819 to 00:37:119: Seems a little weird here. First, add k 00:36:819 in here and delete this note at 00:37:119 Idk, that's my opinion.

01:08:469: D ? Strong emphasis

02:04:119: How about kkd here to make a variation in 02:02:019 in this triplets

That's all, I didn't find any issue on Inner
Nice map, going for rank, GL xfrac.
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

davidminh0111 wrote:

Hello xfrac, from my modding queue: Hey david! Thanks for coming!

[Kantan]
Your HP is too high, do 7 or 6.5 only
I'd pref this one because this is a 200bpm song so Kantan players will get a little challenged with this already. Also I want to set up this different with Futsuu HP (also OD).
00:23:469: Change to k to flow better
Alright! Fixed consistency aswell
00:37:869: ^
Holding to have consistency with 00:33:069 (45) -
01:15:669:^ (not flow better, fit the pitch (slow down the song and you will get it or idk))
Holding cause it's great to emphatise next 01:12:069 (102) -
[Futsuu]
00:17:769: Add a note here to create a same amount of notes as the previous flow
This have consistency with 00:12:069 (18,19,20,21) - where isn't any note
00:24:969 (53 ,54): Ctrl + G to flow better. The k k will make it better : )
This have consistency with 00:20:469 (38) - (starts with k)
00:44:469 (114, 115): Ctrl + G again. Fit the pitch
But this is descendant sound so k d is currently fine
[Muzukashii]
Well, good already Thanks!

That's all, I didn't find any issue on Inner
Nice map, going for rank, GL xfrac.
Thanks for modding! : D. Proud to read Inner and Muzu are currently fine :P
OzzyOzrock
5,185 posts
Joined August 2010
OzzyOzrock
Placeholder post.

However, my main concern is why you chose to map the chorus like you did, with x x x x xxxxx x xxxxx x xxxxx, when I don't see how it really fits anything the song is doing. 00:30:069 - is much nicer to me, since it seems to be a typical taiko improv instead of maping xxxxx to nothing.

Also 02:06:219 (841,842,843,844,845) - is inconsistent with the other x x x x starts (so i dont forget)

[General]
  1. Raise all non-kiai volumes by 10%. Hanging around 50-60 isn't that good for hit feedback.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:39:669 - You only really use kkd here, not bad but weird to lack variation like that.
  2. 01:08:469 - This section is really inconsistent with there you put 1/2 doubles, sometimes you do sometimes you don't.
  3. 01:54:219 (726) - d? D? Flows better than spamming k.
  4. 01:56:844 (750) - May as well remove this since no other part like this has 1/4.
  5. 02:09:894 - Isn't a 1/4 missing here?
[yu68's Oni]
  • Good. Reminds me of my pattern style... :?
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:21:069 (60) - d? Too many ks here.
  2. 00:56:169 (229) - k? I get the first d d d but this one makes less sense.
  3. 00:58:869 - Muzu might want less notes at this section.
  4. 01:35:769 (352) - d? I just don't like seeing the same color 4 in a row randomly.
  5. 01:46:869 - Try this so you don't lower density so weirdly.
  6. 02:06:069 - This bit gets a little too crazy. Tone it down.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:29:169 (66,67,68,69) - Delete these notes to make a break. Feel free to add another 1/2 earlier if you think it's needed.
  2. 00:39:969 (103,104) - Deleting these ends kiai nicely but still allows a good break..
  3. 01:12:969 (175,176,177) - Unneeded? Keeping it simple works fine.
  4. Apply similar breaks to the second kiai, but maybe 01:55:269 - and 02:04:869 - .
  5. Is there a reason for how you patterned the 1/2 in the second kiai? With more ddd and kkk, kind of simpler than the first.
[Kantan]
  1. 00:20:469 - This first kiai is way different from the rest, I think a consistency would be nicer.
  2. 01:30:069 - This part might need less notes, since it's a bit iffy with spread when the triples come in.
So basically, if you can explain why Inner Oni kiai isn't some cool flowey d kdk d kkd ddkkd ddk d kdkkddk (or something, I'm sleepy right now ok), then stuff should be fine for the most part.
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Placeholder post. Thanks for comming :)

However, my main concern is why you chose to map the chorus like you did, with x x x x xxxxx x xxxxx x xxxxx, when I don't see how it really fits anything the song is doing. 00:30:069 - is much nicer to me, since it seems to be a typical taiko improv instead of maping xxxxx to nothing.
I'll explain it below ^^

Also 02:06:219 (841,842,843,844,845) - is inconsistent with the other x x x x starts (so i dont forget)
Fixed

[General]
  1. Raise all non-kiai volumes by 10%. Hanging around 50-60 isn't that good for hit feedback.
    True! It's currently a little low, increasing +10
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:39:669 - You only really use kkd here, not bad but weird to lack variation like that.
    Yeah it's kind of repetitive. Made two of them kdd
  2. 01:08:469 - This section is really inconsistent with there you put 1/2 doubles, sometimes you do sometimes you don't.
    True, fixed some of them
  3. 01:54:219 (726) - d? D? Flows better than spamming k.
    Yeah changed, also consistency with 01:51:669 (708,709) -
  4. 01:56:844 (750) - May as well remove this since no other part like this has 1/4.
    Yup I was about to lol
  5. 02:09:894 - Isn't a 1/4 missing here?
    Fixed
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:21:069 (60) - d? Too many ks here.
    Agree, also consistency with 00:25:869 (86) -
  2. 00:56:169 (229) - k? I get the first d d d but this one makes less sense.
    Hmmmm I'm not totally sure about this tbh. I think this sound is really low to be a kat note here. I'll leave it for now. I got your point about suggesting k cause it's a little repetitive and lot of dons in a row. I'll let this as don just cause I'm following drums (low) here
  3. 00:58:869 - Muzu might want less notes at this section.
    Agree, fixed ~
  4. 01:35:769 (352) - d? I just don't like seeing the same color 4 in a row randomly.
    Fixed~
  5. 01:46:869 - Try this so you don't lower density so weirdly.

    Nice suggest! Applied
  6. 02:06:069 - This bit gets a little too crazy. Tone it down.
    I deleted first ddd triples. They were overmapped but I wanted to let kkk since I like making the final part of the song harder than the rest :p
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:29:169 (66,67,68,69) - Delete these notes to make a break. Feel free to add another 1/2 earlier if you think it's needed.
    But I think current 00:28:269 (63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70) - density is almost same than whole first half of kiai (00:25:869 (55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62) - same amount of notes). Also there's a break just after this one so this shouldn't be that hard imo
  2. 00:39:969 (103,104) - Deleting these ends kiai nicely but still allows a good break..
    Agree, fixed
  3. 01:12:969 (175,176,177) - Unneeded? Keeping it simple works fine.
    Well I'm not totally sure about this but I'm following the drum shake here. Also using triple set a difference about first and second half of this part. I can understand if someone else doesn't agree with this so... for now I'll let it
  4. Apply similar breaks to the second kiai, but maybe 01:55:269 - and 02:04:869 - .
    Way similar comment as above. I think current 2/1 break after these notes is enough. Also did it on 01:55:869 - . If I delete notes like 01:55:569 (34,35) - it will get really bored and players can get a little confused with this 4/1 break before Kiai considering it starts with 2/1
  5. Is there a reason for how you patterned the 1/2 in the second kiai? With more ddd and kkk, kind of simpler than the first.
    Well not real reason to be honest. Fixed
[Kantan]
  1. 00:20:469 - This first kiai is way different from the rest, I think a consistency would be nicer.
    Fixed
  2. 01:30:069 - This part might need less notes, since it's a bit iffy with spread when the triples come in.
    Well I think this part is currently the introduction for next section fast-part so I think just deleting 01:31:869 (118) - could be enough to don't make this so hard
So basically, if you can explain why Inner Oni kiai isn't some cool flowey d kdk d kkd ddkkd ddk d kdkkddk (or something, I'm sleepy right now ok), then stuff should be fine for the most part.
Well the main reason is cause on every d k k k or d d k k start (01:56:469 (752,753,754,755) - for example) I'm following the high instrument (tbh I don't get what exactly it's actually xD). Here I think these sounds are really strong so I pref making this pattern to hear it clearly when playing them. Then on next quintuple note it gets more dense so start following drums from here is nice for an Inner Oni diff. I don't want to make the triples for that reason; main first four notes can't be hear nicely so I pref holding them clean :)
Thanks for comming Ozzy! I hope you got my point about explaining the first kiai notes usage. If someone else have any more comment / question about it let me know please :p
Chromoxx
904 posts
Joined August 2012
Chromoxx
brief irc, looking at the diffs more generally

log
2017-06-28 18:41 xfraczynho: hi chromo
2017-06-28 18:41 Chromoxx: hi
2017-06-28 18:43 xfraczynho: sry, are you currently accepting mod reqs?
2017-06-28 18:43 Chromoxx: not really
2017-06-28 18:43 Chromoxx: i can take a very quick look at your map, leave a few suggestions and post the irc tho
2017-06-28 18:44 xfraczynho: that would be nice tho
2017-06-28 18:44 xfraczynho: want me to np now?
2017-06-28 18:44 Chromoxx: sure
2017-06-28 18:45 xfraczynho: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/1297311 Erik McClure - DioSynth]
2017-06-28 18:47 xfraczynho: lol fast dl
2017-06-28 18:48 Chromoxx: pretty good overall
2017-06-28 18:48 Chromoxx: 00:01:269 - you could maybe start it off with a spinner
2017-06-28 18:48 xfraczynho: thanks
2017-06-28 18:48 xfraczynho: hmmm
2017-06-28 18:48 xfraczynho: tbh I like the current break on that section
2017-06-28 18:49 xfraczynho: and I don't feel like an spinner fits at all considering there's more a silence than a long sound
2017-06-28 18:49 Chromoxx: then more general, i feel like the calmer parts are mapped a bit too dense
2017-06-28 18:49 Chromoxx: and that the rythm is pretty repetitive
2017-06-28 18:50 Chromoxx: 00:20:469 - the part here has no 1/1 breaks at all and the rythm keeps repeating itsself
2017-06-28 18:50 xfraczynho: yeah it's repetitive ;
2017-06-28 18:50 xfraczynho: you mean the kiai?
2017-06-28 18:50 Chromoxx: you could go for some type of 1 2 1 2 variation here instead of going o o o o ooooo o ooooo o ooooo o for the entire duration
2017-06-28 18:50 Chromoxx: yea
2017-06-28 18:51 xfraczynho: tbh I had that on a first instance
2017-06-28 18:51 Chromoxx: just have 2 rythms and then alternate between them each measure or something
2017-06-28 18:51 xfraczynho: so when Skylish modded it I changed
2017-06-28 18:51 xfraczynho: cause there's a difference between first half and second
2017-06-28 18:51 xfraczynho: 00:30:069 - from here I change completely the current consistency
2017-06-28 18:52 Chromoxx: well, you could just make the 2nd half a bit more intense than the first half
2017-06-28 18:52 Chromoxx: or introduce new rythms there again
2017-06-28 18:52 Chromoxx: and yea, overall stuff like 00:54:669 - feels a bit too dense without breaks
2017-06-28 18:52 Chromoxx: since the song is pretty calm overall
2017-06-28 18:53 xfraczynho: ok, will take a look where I can put some circles
2017-06-28 18:53 Chromoxx: and the way you use variety in the kiais etc. could be structured a bit better
2017-06-28 18:53 xfraczynho: hmmm yeah that's true
2017-06-28 18:54 Chromoxx: when looking at when you use which patterns i don't really see a clear structure.. this is a more minor thing tho tbh
2017-06-28 18:55 xfraczynho: well most of patterns are pointing to ascendant/descendant rhythm overall
2017-06-28 18:55 Chromoxx: muzu seems fine density wise
2017-06-28 18:55 xfraczynho: 01:57:069 (753,754,755,756,757) - 01:57:669 (759,760,761,762,763) - for example starting and finishing with kat for ascendant then 01:58:269 (765,766,767,768,769,770,771) - to empathise lower
2017-06-28 18:55 Chromoxx: no big problems
2017-06-28 18:56 xfraczynho: oh finally that trash difficulty
2017-06-28 18:56 xfraczynho: always a problem
2017-06-28 18:56 Chromoxx: futsuu could use a few more 4/1 breaks
2017-06-28 18:56 Chromoxx: in some of the medium intense parts
2017-06-28 18:56 Chromoxx: looks fine overall tho
2017-06-28 18:57 xfraczynho: for example by deleting 00:44:769 (113,114) - ?
2017-06-28 18:57 xfraczynho: what do you think?
2017-06-28 18:57 xfraczynho: 00:39:669 - could be fine also consistency with 00:39:669 - mm
2017-06-28 18:58 Chromoxx: i mean parts like before the first kiai etc.
2017-06-28 18:58 Chromoxx: kantan looks fine overall too... nothing big i noticed
2017-06-28 18:59 xfraczynho: nice
2017-06-28 18:59 Chromoxx: anyway, i gotta go BBQ now... sry if the advice is too general xD
xtrem3x
1,781 posts
Joined July 2009
xtrem3x
mini-placeholder to mod
_yu68
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017
492 posts
Joined March 2015
_yu68

davidminh0111 wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]
00:25:719: kdk? I think it will fit the pitch and has a better flow on the previous note :arrow: I would keep it in order that can emphasize drums.

00:36:819 to 00:37:119: Seems a little weird here. First, add k 00:36:819 in here and delete this note at 00:37:119 Idk, that's my opinion. :arrow: added d to 00:36:819 - and deleted a note your mentioned

01:08:469: D ? Strong emphasis :arrow: I don't think it is neccesary to emphasize because here is calmer part.

02:04:119: How about kkd here to make a variation in 02:02:019 in this triplets :arrow: changed
Thanks mod!

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_yu68
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017
492 posts
Joined March 2015
_yu68
Sorry for what I didn't notice the post :?

Greenshell wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]

00:20:169 (78,79,80) - I think this can be improved. Try something like this?
This way, you can follow the drums more accurately and get better emphasis on the melody through spacing between 00:20:169 (80) - and 00:20:319 (81) -. :arrow: changed

01:03:894 - I can hear 1/4 sounds here, add a note? Or rather not due to the calmness of this part? :arrow: I would keep it in order to suppress 1/4 because here is calmer part.

Otherwise solid diff.
Thanks mod!

.osu
osu file format v14

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Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha
Updated! : D
ayomikasa
180 posts
Joined August 2014
ayomikasa
Hi! Req from xfrac from a long time ago :(

_yu68's Oni
  1. 00:22:194 (95,96) - Ctrl+G
  2. 00:25:794 (120) - Change to d
  3. 00:31:794 (166,167) - Ctrl+G
  4. 00:37:719 (208) - Change to k
  5. 01:59:394 (583) - Change to d
  6. 02:01:794 (602) - ^
  7. 02:02:994 (612,613) - Ctrl+G
  8. 02:07:794 (648,649) - ^
  9. 02:13:719 (690) - Change to k

    Sorry, i can't do japanese :(

Inner Oni
  1. 00:12:894 (36,37) - Ctrl+G
  2. 00:51:069 (355,356) - ^
  3. 01:51:144 (700) - Change to d
  4. 01:53:169 (718) - Change to k

Sorry for the bad mod :(
Good luck for ranking this map :D
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

ayomikasa wrote:

Hi! Req from xfrac from a long time ago :(
Heey lol didn't even remember xD but ty for coming!

Inner Oni
  1. 00:12:894 (36,37) - Ctrl+G
    I think these 00:12:969 (37,38,39) - deserves a real kdk so don before it emphatises great
  2. 00:51:069 (355,356) - ^
    But the kick is on the middle note so I'm holding it :P
  3. 01:51:144 (700) - Change to d
    I don't want to make same pattern as 01:49:869 (688,689,690,691,692) - . Also this makes a greater emphasis on ascendant melody :d
  4. 01:53:169 (718) - Change to k
    I think that could create a overload of kat-starting streams :/ so I'll hold it :)

Sorry for the bad mod :(
Good luck for ranking this map :D
Don't worry about it, every mods/comments/feedbacks are useful! Thanks for comming boy, also for the good luck : D D
_yu68
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2017
492 posts
Joined March 2015
_yu68
blue=change
red=keep

ayomikasa wrote:

_yu68's Oni
  1. 00:22:194 (95,96) - Ctrl+G :arrow: I would keep it to emphasize drum and make diversity.
  2. 00:25:794 (120) - Change to d :arrow: keep to prevent too many d
  3. 00:31:794 (166,167) - Ctrl+G :arrow: same as 00:22:269 (96) -
  4. 00:37:719 (208) - Change to k :arrow: keep for ease of playing and reading
  5. 01:59:394 (583) - Change to d :arrow: changed
  6. 02:01:794 (602) - ^ :arrow: keep to prevent too many d
  7. 02:02:994 (612,613) - Ctrl+G :arrow: changed 02:02:994 (612) - to d considering diversity
  8. 02:07:794 (648,649) - ^ :arrow: keep because of same reason as above
  9. 02:13:719 (690) - Change to k :arrow: keep for ease of playing and reading

    Sorry, i can't do japanese :( no problem :3
Thanks mod!
.osu
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Hanjamon
1,461 posts
Joined June 2012
Hanjamon
Hey frac~ sorry for the delay, here is my mod as you requested.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  1. Bookmarks unsnapped, resnap them!!!! (i'm joking lol xD)
[Kantan]
  1. 00:07:569 - de aqui hasta 00:10:869 - haria esto para mejorar el spread con la Futsuu: añade d en 00:07:869 - 00:08:169 - , elimina 00:09:969 - y cambia
  2. 00:09:669 - a k, este ultimo sugiero el cambio a k por que en caso de aceptar eliminar las anteriores añaderia mas variedad en vez de solo d y como notaras, en 00:09:669 - y 00:10:269 - la melodia es diferente.
  3. 00:15:369 - creo que no haria daño añadir un k/d aqui, ya que tienes un 1/1 largo en la Futsuu.
  4. 01:29:469 - añadir un d en 01:29:469 - y 01:29:769 - ? ya que tienes un triplete en la Futsuu y ayuda en el spread.
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:45:369 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, ya que queda inconsistente a 00:40:569 - , en el cual no tienes nota.
  2. 00:53:619 - sugiero añadir un k en 00:53:619 - y 00:58:419 - para un mejor spread con la Muzu, ya que tienes tripletes en esa misma parte.
  3. 01:01:119 - al igual que ^, añadir un d en 01:01:119 - y 01:05:919 - ?
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:25:419 - , 00:30:219 - , 00:35:019 - , sugiero tener algunos 2/1 break aqui al igual como en la Futsuu, ya que en 200 bpm y es bastante denso aun para una Muzu xD.
  2. 02:01:419 - , 02:06:219 - , 02:11:019 - ^
  3. 01:17:619 - añadir un d creo que no estaria mal aqui, entiendo que tienes un kd en la Muzu, pero siendo la Futsuu, un dd no haria daño.
[_yu68's Oni]
  1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd)
  2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here.
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:15:069 - este 5plet deberia empezar en 00:15:219 - como en los anteriores patterns ya que queda inconsistente con 00:20:019 - en el que si lo haces.
  2. 01:33:294 - se siente muy raro ignorando el sonido de 01:33:294 - y 01:35:694 - , asi que sugiero añadir notas, ademas, sin notas queda inconsistente con 01:34:494 - .
  3. 02:04:119 - ya que en 02:01:719 - cambiaste de repente a d, deberias hacer lo mismo en 02:04:119 - para mantener la consistencia.
  4. 02:11:319 - lo mismo que ^ en 02:11:319 - y 02:13:719 - .
Good luck~
Aisha
837 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey frac~ sorry for the delay, here is my mod as you requested.
Hi Hanja! Don't worry, thanks!

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]

  1. Bookmarks unsnapped, resnap them!!!! (i'm joking lol xD)
    xD Fuck the offset change >< ><
[Kantan]
  1. 00:07:569 - de aqui hasta 00:10:869 - haria esto para mejorar el spread con la Futsuu: añade d en 00:07:869 - 00:08:169 - , elimina 00:09:969 - y cambia
  2. 00:09:669 - a k, este ultimo sugiero el cambio a k por que en caso de aceptar eliminar las anteriores añaderia mas variedad en vez de solo d y como notaras, en 00:09:669 - y 00:10:269 - la melodia es diferente.
    Mmmm la verdad prefiero dejar el patrón que está ahora básicamente por tres razones; primero el spread está aceptable a mi gusto (si ese es uno de los principales problemas del comentario), segundo la canción está recién comenzando y para ser un 200bpm me gustaría comenzar con notas con 4/1 break y tercero el ritmo en 00:06:069 - es más lento que en 00:08:469 - así que el hecho de comenzar a darle un poco más de notas desde la segunda parte queda bastante bueno :P
  3. 00:15:369 - creo que no haria daño añadir un k/d aqui, ya que tienes un 1/1 largo en la Futsuu.
    Algo similar a lo de arriba, prefiría guardar los triples 1/1 para un Kiai ya que el ritmo aumenta considerablemente (también por lo de 'comenzar' la canción relativamente amistosa xD
  4. 01:29:469 - añadir un d en 01:29:469 - y 01:29:769 - ? ya que tienes un triplete en la Futsuu y ayuda en el spread.
    Similar a los dos comentarios de arriba, también me gustan las dificultades que van de forma ascendente. Este es como un segundo comienzo del mapa así que prefiero que parta con 01:18:069 - 8/1 breaks y 01:27:669 - 4/1 breaks acá, para luego dar pie a los 01:30:069 - 2/1 break (como en el comienzo)
[Futsuu]

  1. 00:45:369 - sugiero eliminar esta nota, ya que queda inconsistente a 00:40:569 - , en el cual no tienes nota.
    Sí, mejora la consistencia (borré la anterior a esa también :D)
  2. 00:53:619 - sugiero añadir un k en 00:53:619 - y 00:58:419 - para un mejor spread con la Muzu, ya que tienes tripletes en esa misma parte.
    Mmmm quizás quedaría muy difícil a mi gusto, prefiero dejarlo como está básicamente porque prefiero guardar los triples para un Kiai
  3. 01:01:119 - al igual que ^, añadir un d en 01:01:119 - y 01:05:919 - ?
    Similar a lo de arriba, en Muzu usé un 1/2 triple, pero para Futsuu podría ser mejor mantenerlo así (no quiero overmappear las partes consideradas lentas fuera del Kiai)
[Muzukashii]

  1. 00:25:419 - , 00:30:219 - , 00:35:019 - , sugiero tener algunos 2/1 break aqui al igual como en la Futsuu, ya que en 200 bpm y es bastante denso aun para una Muzu xD.
  2. 02:01:419 - , 02:06:219 - , 02:11:019 - ^
    MmmmMmMMMmm jajaj pensándolo harto la verdad creo que sí en parte es un poco denso, pero un Muzu player ya está capacitado para hacer esos patrones, para un Kiai siento que un 1/1 break es... suficiente? De todas formas, esperaré otro comentario para esto, entiendo el hecho de los 200bpm, pero prefiría tener una Muzu un poco más desafiante
  3. 01:17:619 - añadir un d creo que no estaria mal aqui, entiendo que tienes un kd en la Muzu, pero siendo la Futsuu, un dd no haria daño.
    Suponiendo que te refieres a Futsuu en este caso xD creo que ambas están bien, mis motivos son similares a las diff en general, prefiero mappear cada dificultad como corresponda; independiente que si usé kat o don en una de las dos, cada dificultad tiene su motivo de usar esas notas al menos en mi mapset :)
[Inner Oni]
  1. 00:15:069 - este 5plet deberia empezar en 00:15:219 - como en los anteriores patterns ya que queda inconsistente con 00:20:019 - en el que si lo haces.
    Fixed
  2. 01:33:294 - se siente muy raro ignorando el sonido de 01:33:294 - y 01:35:694 - , asi que sugiero añadir notas, ademas, sin notas queda inconsistente con 01:34:494 - .
    Mmm prefiría no sobremappear los quintuples en esta sección, entiendo tu punto ya que hay un kick pequeño pero prefiero usar triples para no hacer esta parte tan complicada considerando que sólo es una aceleración de ritmo. Sobre la inconsistencia no debería haber problema ya que el quintuple se usa en 01:36:819 - pero extendido para indicar el cambio de sección
  3. 02:04:119 - ya que en 02:01:719 - cambiaste de repente a d, deberias hacer lo mismo en 02:04:119 - para mantener la consistencia.
    Oh, se me pasó esa nota la verdad xD, prefiero dejarlo como kat ambos, pero sí arreglo la consistencia
  4. 02:11:319 - lo mismo que ^ en 02:11:319 - y 02:13:719 - .
    Pero en este caso ambas notas son las mismas D: igual, como probablemente notaste el principio se reitera en un d k k k / d d k k cada 4/1 :3
Good luck~
Thankss :D
Thanks for coming hanja! <3 waiting for yu's reply then updating!
_yu68
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_yu68

Hanjamon wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]
  1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd) :arrow: I would keep it to emphasize drum. I think it's not too difficult even now.
  2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here. :arrow: ^
Thanks mod!
I didn't apply the mod but I changed patterns in Kiai to express melody.(Specifically, I changed the places of 1/1.)

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Aisha
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Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Aisha

_yu68 wrote:

Hanjamon wrote:

[_yu68's Oni]
  1. 00:38:694 - as this part it feels easier than before, change this note to k? (kkkkd) :arrow: I would keep it to emphasize drum. I think it's not too difficult even now.
  2. 02:14:694 - if you applied ^, same here. :arrow: ^
Thanks mod!
I didn't apply the mod but I changed patterns in Kiai to express melody.(Specifically, I changed the places of 1/1.)

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Updated ~
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[ Kantan]

  1. 01:37:269 (1) - I understand you followed the melody though, connection between the spinner and next note seems kinda awkward. I recommend that you remove 01:39:669 (1,2,3) - to make interval, or to replace to normal notes.
[ Futsuu]

  1. SV could be 1.3.
  2. 01:37:269 (1) - same as Kantan
  3. 00:36:369 (90,91,92) - 00:38:769 (98,99,100) - I can't get how triplets in second half of the first kiai have rules. In my opinion, dkd-ddd [A-B-A(reverse)-B(reverse)] or kdk-kkk [A-B-A-B] would be great.
  4. considering first half of the 2nd kiai part, 02:09:969 (45,46,47) - should be kdk, and 02:14:769 (61,62,63) - kkk.
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:669 (112,113,114,115) - Doublets sound weird to me. were I in your place I would make triplets instead.
[ Oni]
  1. 01:18:069 (418) - could be big note like other diffs.
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - 00:52:869 (369,370,371,372) - , etc, They don't follow any sound and not make good flow imo. I recommend that you replace to triplets.
  2. 01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - 01:54:369 (729,730,731,732) - ^
Overall mapped well, but usage of doublets in Inner Oni is really questionable to me. :o
Want more opinions if you keep them.

Good luck.
Aisha
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tasuke912 wrote:

[ Kantan]

  1. 01:37:269 (1) - I understand you followed the melody though, connection between the spinner and next note seems kinda awkward. I recommend that you remove 01:39:669 (1,2,3) - to make interval, or to replace to normal notes.
    Yeah kick is a little strong, I'm changing the next note to don
[ Futsuu]

  1. SV could be 1.3.
    I'd pref to hold it as 1.2 since Futsuu is hard comparing the gap between Kantan and this. Otherwise readibility could be a little hard for it. Anyways receiving more opinions about this (200bpm song by the way)
  2. 01:37:269 (1) - same as Kantan
    Same~
  3. 00:36:369 (90,91,92) - 00:38:769 (98,99,100) - I can't get how triplets in second half of the first kiai have rules. In my opinion, dkd-ddd [A-B-A(reverse)-B(reverse)] or kdk-kkk [A-B-A-B] would be great.
  4. considering first half of the 2nd kiai part, 02:09:969 (45,46,47) - should be kdk, and 02:14:769 (61,62,63) - kkk.
    I made both changes, was a little complex tho
[ Muzukashii]
  1. 00:30:669 (112,113,114,115) - Doublets sound weird to me. were I in your place I would make triplets instead.
    Ok changed to triples, but not changing second Kiai doubles, they fill great
[ Inner Oni]
  1. 00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - 00:52:869 (369,370,371,372) - , etc, They don't follow any sound and not make good flow imo. I recommend that you replace to triplets.
    If you take a look carefully you will notice there's not any sound on 00:50:619 - that deserves to be mapped and doubles usage is mostly a variation on this section. Also 00:50:469 (350,351) - gives a good emphasis on descendant melody then 00:50:694 (352,353) - same about ascendant.
  2. 01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - 01:54:369 (729,730,731,732) - ^
    It's kind of the same argument I used above
Overall mapped well, but usage of doublets in Inner Oni is really questionable to me. :o
Want more opinions if you keep them.
Waiting for it ^^. Gotta try to hold them

Good luck.
Thanks for modding! Waiting for yu's reply ~
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I think I come to the perfect time!

[General]
Although it's not that troublesome but the BPM is "only" 200 so SV 1.4 for the lower difficulties can still work. But like said, that's not urgent and just my thoughts.

[Inner Oni]
00:20:469 (99,100,101,102) - It bothers me reeeeeally that the part sounds so damn plain to me. I could think about adding a note on 00:20:694 - , or remove 00:20:919 (102) - . Both options make it sound less "spammy" imo.
00:22:869 (121,122,123,124) - ^
00:25:269 (144,145,146,147) - ^
00:27:669 (166,167,168,169) - ^
00:39:669 - 00:49:269 - triplet and fivelet usage for this part of song sounds strange imo, maybe one or two triplets to support the music's beat is appropriate but personally I'd be calmer than the current state. from 00:49:269 - it actually starts to be stronger again and to use more technical pattern.
01:32:319 - add 0.80x SV line here, the transistion is smoother afterwards.
01:46:719 - ^ 0.95x

00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - I agree with tasuke that the doublets aren't the best decision, although you want to have some variety - or even go jiro-style I don't consider them as something contributing in the song or map.
01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - ^

[Oni]
Good one!

[Muzukashii]
00:22:869 (69,70,71,72,73) - and 00:27:669 (95,96,97,98,99) - I'd change both to dkkdd but also, I find that the 4th note (72 and 98) aren't really needed and doesn't feel placed right. I'd suggest to remove these two notes but in case you don't want you should have them consistent, to dkkdd.
00:25:269 (83,84) - I'd switch them back to dkk, this looks senseless to have kdk with what you've mapped before and after.
00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - You could change the dkk parts to ddk, like you did with 00:37:269 (148,149,150) - .
01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - this looks questionably easy to me, I think you've took it a bit too far and Oni looks extremly dense compared to Muzukashii here.
01:27:669 - 01:51:669 - this section on the other hand looks too similar to Oni and requires some slight nerfes.

[Futsuu]
00:06:069 (2,3) - If all previous difficulties use it I wouldn't say you should do that for the Futsuu, although it fits I don't think it's difficulty-wise a good choice. removing (3) here would be my idea. Repeat this for the following parts.
00:24:969 (53,54) - switch? Sound transistion is odd to me and you barely used kat to end a combo.
00:29:469 (68,69,70) - switching their colours is imo by far a better idea, (69) would go well with the song being lighter here.
00:53:769 (133,134) - The piano sound actually applies on (134), d d k k d looks better to me.
00:51:369 (127) - ^ this on the other hand can be k d k d d, (127) becomes slightly deeper and suits better for that pattern.

[Kantan]
okidoki


Worried about Muzukashii/Futsuu. Muzukashii suffers from difficulty spread to Futsuu and Oni, and Futsuu have some structure and consistency problems.
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tasuke912 wrote:

[ Oni]
  1. 01:18:069 (418) - could be big note like other diffs. :arrow: 落ち着いた音なのでbigで強調する必要性はあまり無いように思います。diffごとの統一を徹底する必要も無いと判断したのでkeepします。
Thank you for modding!
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Stefan wrote:

I think I come to the perfect time!

[General]
Although it's not that troublesome but the BPM is "only" 200 so SV 1.4 for the lower difficulties can still work. But like said, that's not urgent and just my thoughts.
I told some friends (not taiko players) to test it as 200bpm so they felt this a little difficulty (cause SV). So I'd pref to stuck as this SV usage

[Inner Oni]
00:20:469 (99,100,101,102) - It bothers me reeeeeally that the part sounds so damn plain to me. I could think about adding a note on 00:20:694 - , or remove 00:20:919 (102) - . Both options make it sound less "spammy" imo.
00:22:869 (121,122,123,124) - ^
00:25:269 (144,145,146,147) - ^
00:27:669 (166,167,168,169) - ^
I pref using the first suggestion, but making some little variations on them ^^
00:39:669 - 00:49:269 - triplet and fivelet usage for this part of song sounds strange imo, maybe one or two triplets to support the music's beat is appropriate but personally I'd be calmer than the current state. from 00:49:269 - it actually starts to be stronger again and to use more technical pattern.
Yeah, agree with this, made some changes on this section
01:32:319 - add 0.80x SV line here, the transistion is smoother afterwards.
I guess you wanted to point 0,9x since it comes from 0,85 to 1,0 xD. Added 01:32:169 - 0,9 here and 01:32:319 - 0,95 here
01:46:719 - ^ 0.95x
Added
00:50:469 (350,351,352,353) - I agree with tasuke that the doublets aren't the best decision, although you want to have some variety - or even go jiro-style I don't consider them as something contributing in the song or map.
Ok boy, as I pointed above I was waiting for another comment, seems like I'd need to change this xD
01:51:969 (707,708,709,710) - ^
^

[Oni]
Good one!
Great~

[Muzukashii]
00:22:869 (69,70,71,72,73) - and 00:27:669 (95,96,97,98,99) - I'd change both to dkkdd but also, I find that the 4th note (72 and 98) aren't really needed and doesn't feel placed right. I'd suggest to remove these two notes but in case you don't want you should have them consistent, to dkkdd.
I'd pref to hold them since they emphatises great the next don note. Descendant rhythm follow is priority on this section so like Inner follows the pitch great
00:25:269 (83,84) - I'd switch them back to dkk, this looks senseless to have kdk with what you've mapped before and after.
Agree, fixed these and second Kiai too
00:30:069 - 00:39:669 - You could change the dkk parts to ddk, like you did with 00:37:269 (148,149,150) - .
I pref changing the 4th one to dkk, fills better imo
01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - this looks questionably easy to me, I think you've took it a bit too far and Oni looks extremly dense compared to Muzukashii here.
Added some notes, you're right
01:27:669 - 01:51:669 - this section on the other hand looks too similar to Oni and requires some slight nerfes.
Wasn't that similar imo, considering patterns are different and Oni uses 2 quintuples (muzu used 1). Anyways I'm deleting one note
[Futsuu]
00:06:069 (2,3) - If all previous difficulties use it I wouldn't say you should do that for the Futsuu, although it fits I don't think it's difficulty-wise a good choice. removing (3) here would be my idea. Repeat this for the following parts.
I think it's correctly following the kicks on Futsuu for the doubles usage. On this section I follow something different through the diffs but they're more accurate according to each difficulty
00:24:969 (53,54) - switch? Sound transistion is odd to me and you barely used kat to end a combo.
Fixed~
00:29:469 (68,69,70) - switching their colours is imo by far a better idea, (69) would go well with the song being lighter here.
I'm applying ctrl+g on 00:29:469 (68,69) - to follow the ascendant melody better, but 00:30:069 (70) - should stuck at kat considering the melody starts from really high pitch
00:53:769 (133,134) - The piano sound actually applies on (134), d d k k d looks better to me.
I think current 00:53:469 (132,133,134) - k d k usage is great to follow melody k > d (descendant) , d > k (ascendant). Also this have great consistency with 00:49:269 (122) -
00:51:369 (127) - ^ this on the other hand can be k d k d d, (127) becomes slightly deeper and suits better for that pattern.
I like variation suggestions so applying
[Kantan]
okidoki
Great~


Worried about Muzukashii/Futsuu. Muzukashii suffers from difficulty spread to Futsuu and Oni, and Futsuu have some structure and consistency problems.
I guess with your commentaries on Muzu is enough at fixing this point, compared some calm/fast part between Oni and Muzu and they should be fine now (also for Futsuu)
Thanks for modding! All update :D
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looking good. Bubbled!
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tasuke912 wrote:

looking good. Bubbled!
!! Finally thanks
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log
03:33 Stefan: a
03:33 *Stefan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1297308 Erik McClure - DioSynth [_yu68's Oni]]
03:34 xfraczynho: o/
03:35 Stefan: We should reduce the dimensions of BG, to 1366x768 or 1024x768
03:35 Stefan: If you need help, I can assist you here.
03:36 xfraczynho: isn't this currently 1920x1200?
03:36 xfraczynho: I've read that's currently rankable D:
03:37 Stefan: Hmm, well
03:37 Stefan: It's not urgently unrankable, or that important
03:37 Stefan: actually..
03:37 Stefan: I think it's fine
03:37 xfraczynho: from skylish and nardo
03:37 Stefan: Just
03:38 xfraczynho: and it seems well... anyways I got other dimensions (used 1366 before)
03:38 Stefan: I find the BG should be move up for a bit
03:38 xfraczynho: up?
03:38 Stefan: You know how to alter the BG position?
03:38 xfraczynho: 84yeah
03:38 xfraczynho: but I think it's currently nice
03:39 xfraczynho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8838951 -> the orange circle feels great
03:39 Stefan: I'd say it should be -30 imo
03:39 Stefan: so it's more in the mid
03:39 xfraczynho: if I move up white line wont look good
03:39 xfraczynho: so covered
03:39 Stefan: Hmm, okay then.
03:40 xfraczynho: if it would be standard I would agree with you
03:40 xfraczynho: but considering it moves down cause taiko it seems well
03:40 xfraczynho: :3
03:41 Stefan: okay then
03:43 Stefan: Futsuu: 01:19:269 (5) -
03:43 Stefan: Wondering.. Why is Futsuu the only difficulty with a note here (excluding Inner Oni)
03:44 Stefan: I mean, neither Muzu or Oni have one here
03:44 Stefan: it looks extremly strange to me.
03:45 xfraczynho: oups my bad
03:45 xfraczynho: deleting on futsuu
03:45 Stefan: 01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - for Futsuu and Muzukashii: I'd suggest to make Muzukashii for this part slightly denser/harder
03:45 xfraczynho: this is the slowest part on the song so I pref the 8/1 break
03:45 Stefan: since both difficulties are exact the same, dense-wise
03:46 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/5vrB4CJz.png just as reference
03:46 Stefan: Kantan~Oni
03:47 xfraczynho: !!! Finally!
03:47 xfraczynho: how ddo you do that?!
03:47 xfraczynho: I've seen that so many time befeore
03:47 xfraczynho: (btw I'm adding 01:13:194 - only don here)
03:47 Stefan: It's Modding Assistant
03:47 xfraczynho: I wanted to ask chromo (since I've seen that from him xD) but he's offline
03:47 Stefan: let me find the download link quick
03:47 xfraczynho: great :)
03:48 Stefan: t/359381/start=150
03:48 xfraczynho: I've looking for that exactlyfrom 2 days ago
03:48 Stefan: check Bakari's post
03:48 xfraczynho: nice ~~
03:48 xfraczynho: great tool
03:48 Stefan: And no worries about the filename, bakari was just silly
03:48 xfraczynho: thanks :)
03:48 xfraczynho: yeah xD I noticed
03:48 Stefan: but yeah, it's indeed a really good tool
03:48 xfraczynho: btw I would pref to have similar density on f-m
03:48 xfraczynho: on this part
03:49 Stefan: working with it for mapping and modding now
03:49 xfraczynho: 01:13:194 - by making a triple (ddd) on muzu here is enough
03:49 Stefan: Yeah, that can work
03:49 xfraczynho: if I make it harder could be so overmapped imo
03:49 xfraczynho: and yeah, I'm gonna use this a lot lol
03:50 Stefan: for Futsuu: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/B758QF35.png
03:50 Stefan: at 01:31:269 - 01:37:269 -
03:50 Stefan: try adding some 1/2 notes
03:51 Stefan: since Muzukashii uses a lot of them here.
03:51 Stefan: it doesn't have to be that many
03:51 Stefan: but spread-wise it'd work out better.
03:51 xfraczynho: yeah I agree with yu
03:51 xfraczynho: you
03:52 xfraczynho: 01:32:919 - d01:35:319 -
03:52 xfraczynho: d too
03:52 xfraczynho: it's enough
03:52 xfraczynho: I think there's a little drum shake so fills nice
03:52 Stefan: yeah, that will work fine
03:52 xfraczynho: (btw does this tool work for std aswell right?)
03:53 Stefan: Yes, it was originally designed for standard
03:53 Stefan: but has taiko support as well
03:54 xfraczynho: seems great for taiko lol for spread stuff
03:54 Stefan: So, do you have anything else you want to change on the set?
03:54 Stefan: on your own
03:55 xfraczynho: tbh I haven't anything else to do
03:55 Stefan: Okay.
03:55 xfraczynho: I've check the spread (manually)
03:55 xfraczynho: little issues that you already pointed out
04:02 Stefan: good good.
04:02 Stefan: Well, I have nothing else to say.
04:03 Stefan: You can update and let me know when you're ready.
04:03 xfraczynho: great :3
04:03 xfraczynho: let me take a quick check on inner
04:03 xfraczynho: then updating
04:05 xfraczynho: 00:19:494 (90) -01:03:519 (443) - only making them d
04:05 xfraczynho: not any other change; updated
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Stefan wrote:

log
03:33 Stefan: a
03:33 *Stefan is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1297308 Erik McClure - DioSynth [_yu68's Oni]]
03:34 xfraczynho: o/
03:35 Stefan: We should reduce the dimensions of BG, to 1366x768 or 1024x768
03:35 Stefan: If you need help, I can assist you here.
03:36 xfraczynho: isn't this currently 1920x1200?
03:36 xfraczynho: I've read that's currently rankable D:
03:37 Stefan: Hmm, well
03:37 Stefan: It's not urgently unrankable, or that important
03:37 Stefan: actually..
03:37 Stefan: I think it's fine
03:37 xfraczynho: from skylish and nardo
03:37 Stefan: Just
03:38 xfraczynho: and it seems well... anyways I got other dimensions (used 1366 before)
03:38 Stefan: I find the BG should be move up for a bit
03:38 xfraczynho: up?
03:38 Stefan: You know how to alter the BG position?
03:38 xfraczynho: 84yeah
03:38 xfraczynho: but I think it's currently nice
03:39 xfraczynho: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8838951 -> the orange circle feels great
03:39 Stefan: I'd say it should be -30 imo
03:39 Stefan: so it's more in the mid
03:39 xfraczynho: if I move up white line wont look good
03:39 xfraczynho: so covered
03:39 Stefan: Hmm, okay then.
03:40 xfraczynho: if it would be standard I would agree with you
03:40 xfraczynho: but considering it moves down cause taiko it seems well
03:40 xfraczynho: :3
03:41 Stefan: okay then
03:43 Stefan: Futsuu: 01:19:269 (5) -
03:43 Stefan: Wondering.. Why is Futsuu the only difficulty with a note here (excluding Inner Oni)
03:44 Stefan: I mean, neither Muzu or Oni have one here
03:44 Stefan: it looks extremly strange to me.
03:45 xfraczynho: oups my bad
03:45 xfraczynho: deleting on futsuu
03:45 Stefan: 01:08:469 - 01:18:069 - for Futsuu and Muzukashii: I'd suggest to make Muzukashii for this part slightly denser/harder
03:45 xfraczynho: this is the slowest part on the song so I pref the 8/1 break
03:45 Stefan: since both difficulties are exact the same, dense-wise
03:46 Stefan: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/5vrB4CJz.png just as reference
03:46 Stefan: Kantan~Oni
03:47 xfraczynho: !!! Finally!
03:47 xfraczynho: how ddo you do that?!
03:47 xfraczynho: I've seen that so many time befeore
03:47 xfraczynho: (btw I'm adding 01:13:194 - only don here)
03:47 Stefan: It's Modding Assistant
03:47 xfraczynho: I wanted to ask chromo (since I've seen that from him xD) but he's offline
03:47 Stefan: let me find the download link quick
03:47 xfraczynho: great :)
03:48 Stefan: t/359381/start=150
03:48 xfraczynho: I've looking for that exactlyfrom 2 days ago
03:48 Stefan: check Bakari's post
03:48 xfraczynho: nice ~~
03:48 xfraczynho: great tool
03:48 Stefan: And no worries about the filename, bakari was just silly
03:48 xfraczynho: thanks :)
03:48 xfraczynho: yeah xD I noticed
03:48 Stefan: but yeah, it's indeed a really good tool
03:48 xfraczynho: btw I would pref to have similar density on f-m
03:48 xfraczynho: on this part
03:49 Stefan: working with it for mapping and modding now
03:49 xfraczynho: 01:13:194 - by making a triple (ddd) on muzu here is enough
03:49 Stefan: Yeah, that can work
03:49 xfraczynho: if I make it harder could be so overmapped imo
03:49 xfraczynho: and yeah, I'm gonna use this a lot lol
03:50 Stefan: for Futsuu: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/B758QF35.png
03:50 Stefan: at 01:31:269 - 01:37:269 -
03:50 Stefan: try adding some 1/2 notes
03:51 Stefan: since Muzukashii uses a lot of them here.
03:51 Stefan: it doesn't have to be that many
03:51 Stefan: but spread-wise it'd work out better.
03:51 xfraczynho: yeah I agree with yu
03:51 xfraczynho: you
03:52 xfraczynho: 01:32:919 - d01:35:319 -
03:52 xfraczynho: d too
03:52 xfraczynho: it's enough
03:52 xfraczynho: I think there's a little drum shake so fills nice
03:52 Stefan: yeah, that will work fine
03:52 xfraczynho: (btw does this tool work for std aswell right?)
03:53 Stefan: Yes, it was originally designed for standard
03:53 Stefan: but has taiko support as well
03:54 xfraczynho: seems great for taiko lol for spread stuff
03:54 Stefan: So, do you have anything else you want to change on the set?
03:54 Stefan: on your own
03:55 xfraczynho: tbh I haven't anything else to do
03:55 Stefan: Okay.
03:55 xfraczynho: I've check the spread (manually)
03:55 xfraczynho: little issues that you already pointed out
04:02 Stefan: good good.
04:02 Stefan: Well, I have nothing else to say.
04:03 Stefan: You can update and let me know when you're ready.
04:03 xfraczynho: great :3
04:03 xfraczynho: let me take a quick check on inner
04:03 xfraczynho: then updating
04:05 xfraczynho: 00:19:494 (90) -01:03:519 (443) - only making them d
04:05 xfraczynho: not any other change; updated
!!! Really proud atm. Thanks :D
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Frac, twist and break my neck :>

Gratz on your 1st ever qualified mapset :D
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i guess i need reference for current meta
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Aisha

IamKwaN wrote:

i guess i need reference for current meta
Most of metadata stuff comes from Voyage's mod (I checked all stuff carefully):

Voyage wrote:

Metadata Check

  • Artist
  1. Change the artist's name to Erik McClure, the artist himself likes to interchange between different aliases such Blackhole, Blackhole12 and etc. But, he seems to consistently use Eric McClure as an alias so it's better to use Eric McClure then Blackhole. If you're still unsure about it, there's official proof from the artist himself in this map's description.
    Source
  2. Remove Newgrounds from Source, the music downloading/streaming website isn't applicable as a official Source.
    Tags
  3. Remove Eric McClure in tags, if you also follow my above suggestion about the Artist, it would make sense to delete this to avoid duplicates.
  4. Add Blackhole in tags, another alias the artist goes by. This would coincide with the above suggestion about changing the Artist name.
  5. Add Newgrounds in tags, if you choose to follow the above suggestion about Source, it would make more sense to have Newgrounds as a tag since it's related to the song and artist in that, the song was uploaded on Newgrounds by the artist.
  6. Add Trance in tags, genre of the song as quoted by the artist, "I'm not actually sure what genre this is... so into Techno it goes!".
  7. Replace the tags Audio and Portal with Audio Deathmatch and NGADM, the tags Audio and Portal are a bit too broad referring to the Newsground website overall. These two tags I suggested are a bit more specific since the song was an entry for the Newgrounds Audio Deathmatch 2010 competition and NGADM is the abbreviation of the contest.
Source(s) used: Newgrounds, DioSynth, NGADM, Bandcamp, SoundCloud, VGMdb.
Footnote(s): Not many official sources available so I resorted to using secondhand Sources for some of the Metadata.[/notice]
Also about using Erik McClure as artist name, there's something that clearifies it: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/338942 (map description). I hope this is enough.

pd. Thanks for messages tho :d
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