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tsugi
Hiya! Como te dije, te dejo por aquí un pequeño mod. No hay muchas pegas que poner, es un mapa bastante agradable de jugar; pero he leído por ahí que tienes intención de rankearlo así que te comento (la mayoría son cosas que ya te han dicho).

1º Con respecto al uso de los streams espaciados:
No estoy en contra del uso que les das, de hecho algunos me parecen que pegan mucho más que un stream continuo, pero hay algunos ángulos bastante incómodos que supondrían CB seguro para el 80% de la gente que vaya a jugar este mapa si se rankea, en concreto:

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - este es (para mí) el más incómodo de jugar. Tal vez estaría bien rotar un poco los primeros 4 o reducir el espaciado. Te dejo aquí una alternativa que he probado que me resulta un poco más fácil (solo para hacerte una idea, seguramente puedes hacer algo mejor).

02:38:890 (1,2,3,4) - este forma parte de uno de los streams espaciados que más me gustaron del mapa, pero quizá lo subiría un poco para facilitar la conexión con los streams que le rodean

El resto no los he fallado en el primer intento y los veo adecuados.

2º Con respecto a los streams rápidos como 04:58:526 (4,5,6,7,8) -
Son bastante rápidos para un mapa tan suave y los cambiaría por sliders repetidos, creo que este pattern sería el mayor problema si lo intentas llevar a ranked. Si aun así no quieres cambiarlos, al menos este 02:03:981 (4,5,6,7,8) - lo cambiaría por algo así porque es un poco dificil de leer en esa posición estando montados uno encima del otro. En cuanto a 04:58:526 (4,5,6,7,8) - lo leo bastante mejor.

3º Otras cosas sin mucha importancia

01:35:981 (1) - 01:44:708 (1) - 03:03:254 (1) - 03:11:981 (1) - lo de poner NC en este tipo de slider tiene algún motivo? es curiosidad, más que nada :')

Dicho esto, buen trabajo con este beatmap (el uso que has hecho de los hitsounds es sublime) y espero que lo puedas rankear pronto. Suerte!
Topic Starter
Akareh

tsugi wrote:

Hiya! Como te dije, te dejo por aquí un pequeño mod. No hay muchas pegas que poner, es un mapa bastante agradable de jugar; pero he leído por ahí que tienes intención de rankearlo así que te comento (la mayoría son cosas que ya te han dicho).

1º Con respecto al uso de los streams espaciados:
No estoy en contra del uso que les das, de hecho algunos me parecen que pegan mucho más que un stream continuo, pero hay algunos ángulos bastante incómodos que supondrían CB seguro para el 80% de la gente que vaya a jugar este mapa si se rankea, en concreto:

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - este es (para mí) el más incómodo de jugar. Tal vez estaría bien rotar un poco los primeros 4 o reducir el espaciado. Te dejo aquí una alternativa que he probado que me resulta un poco más fácil (solo para hacerte una idea, seguramente puedes hacer algo mejor). Lo he intentado arreglar de otra forma, aunque la verdad, no sé si lo he empeorado xDDD Creo que el problema estaba sobre todo en que el salto entre 01:46:254 (4,1) y 01:46:617 (4,1) era algo inconsistente, ahora debería ser un salto más uniforme... espero?

02:38:890 (1,2,3,4) - este forma parte de uno de los streams espaciados que más me gustaron del mapa, pero quizá lo subiría un poco para facilitar la conexión con los streams que le rodean Pues es curioso, porque el stream del medio tenía un DS que no era uniforme. Arreglado y subido un poquito hacia arriba, debería fluir algo mejor.

El resto no los he fallado en el primer intento y los veo adecuados.

2º Con respecto a los streams rápidos como 04:58:526 (4,5,6,7,8) -
Son bastante rápidos para un mapa tan suave y los cambiaría por sliders repetidos, creo que este pattern sería el mayor problema si lo intentas llevar a ranked. Si aun así no quieres cambiarlos, al menos este 02:03:981 (4,5,6,7,8) - lo cambiaría por algo así porque es un poco dificil de leer en esa posición estando montados uno encima del otro. En cuanto a 04:58:526 (4,5,6,7,8) - lo leo bastante mejor.


He cambiado ambos por sliders repetidos, porque, seamos sinceros, ni siquiera yo que lo he mapeado pillaba bien el ritmo a esos streams xDDD El problema de hacer esos sliders es que soy incapaz de hacer que quieden bien en un pattern porque me falta experiencia con ellos. De momento, tho, hay un apaño majete, pero espero que alguien me pueda echar un cable con eso :o

3º Otras cosas sin mucha importancia
01:35:981 (1) - 01:44:708 (1) - 03:03:254 (1) - 03:11:981 (1) - lo de poner NC en este tipo de slider tiene algún motivo? es curiosidad, más que nada :') Los añadí por si acaso el jump, al solo usarse en esas partes y ser algo repentino sin mucha anticipación, no se lograba leer bien por alguna razón. Especialmente, más que nada por los de 01:35:981 (1) y 03:03:254 (1), y luego los otros dos ya más por temas de consistencia de NCs que otra cosa.

Dicho esto, buen trabajo con este beatmap (el uso que has hecho de los hitsounds es sublime) y espero que lo puedas rankear pronto. Suerte!
¡Gracias por el mod!

Curioso que todo el mundo me felicite por los hitsounds cuando es una de las cosas que más problemas me ha dado siempre a la hora de hacer maps (y algo que odio hacer) xDDD
Lilyanna
Hi from my Queue

i dont mod insane but i want try at least help with simple things ^.^


MOD
Niamh

00:05:254 - i think its better if u make this note clickable something likethis
00:35:072 (1,2) - not really necessary i dont hear any beat that flow with that add a spinner maybe from here 00:35:072 - to 00:36:890 - i think it will fit fine
01:20:526 (7,8) - why big jump here nothing to emphasize maybe shorten the distance but make sure this stayes a jump 01:20:708 (8,1) - to emphasize that strong beat
01:24:163 (4,8) - stack
01:29:254 (6) - cntl-g
01:29:617 (1) - can space this from the presvious slider to emphasize the strong uncoming beat
01:37:617 (7,8,1) - wierd flow 01:37:981 (8) - ctrl-g maybe
01:46:254 (4,1) - this stream jump can be so confusing i think 01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - keep them all equal spacing would be better
01:50:708 (5) - ctrl-g its kinda dull flow when all sliders goes in same directions
02:00:345 (2) - this maybe overmapped i dont hear anything there
02:32:890 (3,4) - fix blanket
02:47:072 (4) - nc
03:13:527 (4,1) - same thing about earlier its hard to read i wont mention them anymore04:34:616 (3,1) -
03:21:617 (6) - nc
03:32:163 (2) - x392 y168
04:15:435 (1,4) - stack
05:17:617 (2) - x440 y336
nice song so calm ^.^

Good luck :)
Topic Starter
Akareh

Lilyanna wrote:

Hi from my Queue

i dont mod insane but i want try at least help with simple things ^.^


MOD
Niamh

00:05:254 - i think its better if u make this note clickable something likethis I can't really end the slider at 00:05:072 though, there are no sounds there
00:35:072 (1,2) - not really necessary i dont hear any beat that flow with that add a spinner maybe from here 00:35:072 - to 00:36:890 - i think it will fit fine There's a drum sound there, which is what I'm mapping :)
01:20:526 (7,8) - why big jump here nothing to emphasize maybe shorten the distance but make sure this stayes a jump 01:20:708 (8,1) - to emphasize that strong beat I felt a jump fit there, since rhythm kinda "resets" IMO. It's big mostly because of aesthetic reasons, but I'll consider shortening if someone else points this
01:24:163 (4,8) - stack yep
01:29:254 (6) - cntl-g nope, it's a nice pattern
01:29:617 (1) - can space this from the presvious slider to emphasize the strong uncoming beat Song slows down there, though. I don't think a jump would be wise here
01:37:617 (7,8,1) - wierd flow 01:37:981 (8) - ctrl-g maybe Intentional, since that's the jumpy part
01:46:254 (4,1) - this stream jump can be so confusing i think 01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - keep them all equal spacing would be better Will consider, not changing now though
01:50:708 (5) - ctrl-g its kinda dull flow when all sliders goes in same directions Intentional, rhythm is calm so flow is also calm. Jump here wouldn't fit, and would also be confusing with 01:51:072 (6,1) right next
02:00:345 (2) - this maybe overmapped i dont hear anything there flute
02:32:890 (3,4) - fix blanket yep
02:47:072 (4) - nc yep
03:13:527 (4,1) - same thing about earlier its hard to read i wont mention them anymore04:34:616 (3,1) - same as before
03:21:617 (6) - nc yep
03:32:163 (2) - x392 y168 sure
04:15:435 (1,4) - stack sure
05:17:617 (2) - x440 y336 fixed, but not at those coordinates
nice song so calm ^.^
Thank you! :)
iYiyo
Hello o/ from #modreqs.I suck at modding so don't blame me :c
Niamh

00:24:163 (1,3,4) - blanket those 3 a bit better
01:08:890 (1) - delete NC?
01:16:163 (1) - ^
01:16:526 (2) - NC
01:47:072 - from here u were using a NC every 2 big white ticks, but then 01:51:435 - here u start using every 1 tick, and then again 01:53:617 (1) - two ticks. I suggest you to be consistent in this section with the NC.
02:21:799 (9,1) - maybe a minijump between those?
02:42:708 (4) - ctrl g for better flow?
04:14:708 (4,5) - ctrl g?
04:25:072 - I don't hear a triplet here in the music, so I suggest you to make 04:24:890 (3) - this a slider and delete 04:25:072 (4,5) - those.
04:31:981 (4,5,6) - same as above, maybe delete this 04:32:072 (5) - single note.
04:36:799 (5) - ^
04:44:890 (4) - I think you shouldn't make this a slider reverse, making these 04:45:254 - 04:45:435 - 04:45:617 - clickable would fit better imo.
04:52:526 (5) - NC
04:53:617 (7,8,9,10) - make this section like 04:52:526 (5,6) - with just 2 sliders, it fits better imo.
05:15:800 (2,3,4,5,6) - make these into some minijumps?

In general the diffs is very good, however in some parts of the non-kiai sections you added some triplets where there's no sound of it in the music, I did not mention all but maybe u should check them. Also there are some inconsistency in the NC sometimes, but not a big issue.

Also, I heard the hitsounds and they sound pretty bad imo, maybe you should check them out because it feels like the claps are a little bit random (i mean not that random but maybe some consistency would be better)

That's all, I hope it helps. Good luck :)
Sakurauchi Riko
Heyo!! #makemodreqsgreatagain
Im little new to this still but I give you my suggestions! :D

modderino
00:09:617 (7,1,2,3,4) - aesthetically this doesnt look really pretty to me (also this falls apart of your previous style imo)
00:14:526 (5,6) - make same DS between those like 00:13:981 (3,4) -
00:25:254 (4,5,1) - DS issue
00:50:345 (1) - how about making this a 1/2 slider to the next red beat and make the stream follow after, it plays really nice and the special sounds gets more emphasized with that slider
00:51:617 (2,3,4) - since there are relatively high jumps before that it would feel more pleasant if you make this like http://puu.sh/q1Bh4/07dac31b2d.jpg (the flow is just much better in that version imo)
01:01:072 (8,1) - idk this is a very personal suggestion but with some reason it sounds better if you stack those two objects
01:07:072 (6,7,8) - another very personal suggestion: making these in a stream line instead of being stacked fits better to the music right there. I cant really explain why with my noob english but maybe you just give it a try (like its different from 01:09:435 (2,3,4) - . stacking here sounds better....)
01:11:072 - to 01:12:163 - maybe consider making the hitsound volume not directly at 40% which is represented in the kiai time (here its not the kiai, its like the intro of the kiai). for me it would make sense to make it a little bit quiter before the actual kiai starts, so the jump from 15% to 40% doesnt feel so sudden
02:38:345 - to 02:39:435 - ^ (before every kiai)
01:16:163 (1,3) - blanket them maybe and make a cleaner pattern with the other objects around there
01:35:981 (1,1) - i feel like those 2 objects have to be closer since its 1/4 mapped (like 01:44:708 (1,1) - but honestly making this pattern as an overlap would feel better imo)
02:38:345 (1) - make this slider flow into the stream, feels more pleasant imo http://puu.sh/q1C5l/01804ec674.jpg
03:29:617 (3) - make this symmetrcial
04:21:981 (5,6,7) - imagine this 3 objects would be in a same slider, so you can make it flow better (looks also beautiful) -> http://puu.sh/q1Cv5/b9a35ec070.jpg

hmm... just a note here: 04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - or 04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - and so on... I dont really know but those "stream jumps" feel a bit too much for this difficulty, they just feel really apart from the map.

I like the song, I like the map and you hitsounds are AWESOMEE!! i love it! :D
I hope my mod was a bit useful to you! :b
Good Luck with your map and happy mapping! (:
Topic Starter
Akareh

iYiyo wrote:

Hello o/ from #modreqs.I suck at modding so don't blame me :c
Niamh

00:24:163 (1,3,4) - blanket those 3 a bit better yep
01:08:890 (1) - delete NC? sure
01:16:163 (1) - ^ yep
01:16:526 (2) - NC yep
01:47:072 - from here u were using a NC every 2 big white ticks, but then 01:51:435 - here u start using every 1 tick, and then again 01:53:617 (1) - two ticks. I suggest you to be consistent in this section with the NC. 01:51:435 (1) and 01:52:526 (1) are there because of the jumps, then I get back to the usual fare
02:21:799 (9,1) - maybe a minijump between those? I think the pattern is fine as it is :)
02:42:708 (4) - ctrl g for better flow? I think the flow is okay as is, plus the flow to 02:43:072 (5) would be really weird
04:14:708 (4,5) - ctrl g? sure
04:25:072 - I don't hear a triplet here in the music, so I suggest you to make 04:24:890 (3) - this a slider and delete 04:25:072 (4,5) - those.
04:31:981 (4,5,6) - same as above, maybe delete this 04:32:072 (5) - single note. Oops?
04:36:799 (5) - ^ ^
04:44:890 (4) - I think you shouldn't make this a slider reverse, making these 04:45:254 - 04:45:435 - 04:45:617 - clickable would fit better imo. Maybe, I like the reverse here, though. I'll wait for some more feedback
04:52:526 (5) - NC yes
04:53:617 (7,8,9,10) - make this section like 04:52:526 (5,6) - with just 2 sliders, it fits better imo. Nah, it's fine
05:15:800 (2,3,4,5,6) - make these into some minijumps? Again, I really like that pattern and the way it sets up 05:16:526 (1)

In general the diffs is very good, however in some parts of the non-kiai sections you added some triplets where there's no sound of it in the music, I did not mention all but maybe u should check them. Also there are some inconsistency in the NC sometimes, but not a big issue.

Also, I heard the hitsounds and they sound pretty bad imo, maybe you should check them out because it feels like the claps are a little bit random (i mean not that random but maybe some consistency would be better) I'm not really that good at hitsounding, and what I hear I hear ok, so I guess I'll have to try and get some help on this :|

That's all, I hope it helps. Good luck :)
It sure helped, thanks! :)

Phyloukz wrote:

Heyo!! #makemodreqsgreatagain
Im little new to this still but I give you my suggestions! :D

modderino
00:09:617 (7,1,2,3,4) - aesthetically this doesnt look really pretty to me (also this falls apart of your previous style imo) I guess? I've been looking at it and trying some things for a good hour and I don't really have a clue what to do with those, I guess I'll wait on some feedback? I think they're fine as is though.
00:14:526 (5,6) - make same DS between those like 00:13:981 (3,4) yep
00:25:254 (4,5,1) - DS issue between 4, 5 and 1? It's just 0'3x and it's due to grid alignment, I can't really fix it but it shouldn't be a problem? Maybe?
00:50:345 (1) - how about making this a 1/2 slider to the next red beat and make the stream follow after, it plays really nice and the special sounds gets more emphasized with that slider I'd like to, but I can't for the love of me find a way to change that into a slider and not make the pattern between 00:50:163 (3,2) look bad. I really like the next pattern, so I can't really move that stream, and I think all the back and forth I'd have to make there to fit a slider wouldn't really be worth it tbh.
00:51:617 (2,3,4) - since there are relatively high jumps before that it would feel more pleasant if you make this like http://puu.sh/q1Bh4/07dac31b2d.jpg (the flow is just much better in that version imo) Nope. For one I really like the way that pattern looks and plays, plus 00:52:345 (6) would look really confusing if I change that and I really don't have a good place to get that and not break the jump and flow to 00:52:526 (1)
01:01:072 (8,1) - idk this is a very personal suggestion but with some reason it sounds better if you stack those two objects Nah, it's a really calm part and I couldn't really justify a jump from 01:00:890 (7) here
01:07:072 (6,7,8) - another very personal suggestion: making these in a stream line instead of being stacked fits better to the music right there. I cant really explain why with my noob english but maybe you just give it a try (like its different from 01:09:435 (2,3,4) - . stacking here sounds better....) I guess?
01:11:072 - to 01:12:163 - maybe consider making the hitsound volume not directly at 40% which is represented in the kiai time (here its not the kiai, its like the intro of the kiai). for me it would make sense to make it a little bit quiter before the actual kiai starts, so the jump from 15% to 40% doesnt feel so sudden sure, 30% seems fine
02:38:345 - to 02:39:435 - ^ (before every kiai) Changed before every kiai except here, since drums don't really sound that high and hitsounds fit better if they're a bit stronger here IMO
01:16:163 (1,3) - blanket them maybe and make a cleaner pattern with the other objects around there Blanketed, pattern seems fine to me, though?
01:35:981 (1,1) - i feel like those 2 objects have to be closer since its 1/4 mapped (like 01:44:708 (1,1) - but honestly making this pattern as an overlap would feel better imo) nah, it's okay
02:38:345 (1) - make this slider flow into the stream, feels more pleasant imo http://puu.sh/q1C5l/01804ec674.jpg sure
03:29:617 (3) - make this symmetrcial should be now
04:21:981 (5,6,7) - imagine this 3 objects would be in a same slider, so you can make it flow better (looks also beautiful) -> http://puu.sh/q1Cv5/b9a35ec070.jpg oooh, nice

hmm... just a note here: 04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - or 04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - and so on... I dont really know but those "stream jumps" feel a bit too much for this difficulty, they just feel really apart from the map.

I like the song, I like the map and you hitsounds are AWESOMEE!! i love it! :D
I hope my mod was a bit useful to you! :b
Good Luck with your map and happy mapping! (:
Thanks! :)
_MiaoFUuU_
Hi NM (Fourm req)

Niamh

  1. 00:11:799 (3) - blanket put it to x:236 y:224
  2. 00:32:935 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - suggest change into circle
  3. 00:39:435 (6) - NC,00:40:526 (1) - NC
  4. 00:43:799 (7) - NC,00:44:526 (1) - NC
  5. 00:56:435 - add a circle
  6. 01:07:254 - try this rhythm https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5641217
  7. 01:19:799 (4) - stack at 01:21:254 (2) - x:291 y:35
  8. 01:25:254 (1,2,3) - not beautiful
  9. 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) - I can't pass this kind of stream....spacing is too far,plz consider to change(you can use slider instead of 01:46:163 (3,3) - or you can use common's stream)
  10. 01:48:163 (4) - NC
  11. 01:56:345 (2) - optimise
  12. 02:01:254 (5) - NC
  13. 02:05:617 (4) - NC
  14. 02:07:799 (5) - ↑
  15. 02:09:981 (4) - ↑
  16. 02:12:163 (4) - ↑
  17. 02:14:345 (4) - 02:16:526 (4) - 02:18:708 (5) - 02:20:890 (4) - ↑
  18. 02:31:799 (2,3) - blanket and 02:31:799 (2,4) - stack
  19. 02:38:799 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  20. 02:39:435 (3) - NC
  21. 02:45:526 - suggest add a circle
  22. 03:13:527 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  23. 03:15:435 (4) - NC
  24. 03:20:890 (4) - ↑
  25. 03:21:617 (1) - ↑
  26. 03:24:163 (4) - ↑
  27. 03:26:345 (4) - ↑
  28. 03:28:527 (5) - ↑
  29. 03:28:890 (1) - ↑
  30. 03:29:617 (5) - ↑
  31. 03:32:890 (4) - stack at 03:31:254 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5641330 and then NC it
  32. 03:35:072 (5) - NC
  33. 03:37:254 (4) - ↑
  34. 03:39:436 (4) - 03:41:617 (4) - 03:43:799 (4) - 03:45:981 (6) - 03:52:526 (1) - 03:53:617 (6) - ↑
  35. 04:15:435 (1,4) - stack
  36. 04:21:981 (5) - NC
  37. 04:23:072 (4) - 04:23:617 (1) - NC
  38. 04:25:254 (4) - NC
  39. 04:27:435 (4) - 04:27:799 (1) - ↑
  40. 04:29:617 (3) - ↑
  41. 04:31:799 (3) - ↑
  42. 04:33:981 (3) - 04:34:435 (1) - 04:34:708 (1) - ↑
  43. 04:34:616 (4,5,8,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  44. 04:36:163 (3) - NC
  45. 04:38:345 (3) - ↑
  46. 04:39:435 (6) - ↑
  47. 04:40:799 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  48. 04:42:708 (5) - 04:43:435 (1) - 04:44:890 (5) - NC
  49. 04:47:072 (4) - 04:49:072 (1) - 04:49:254 (6) - NC
  50. 04:55:799 (4) - 04:56:890 (4) - NC
  51. 05:00:163 (4) - 05:02:345 (5) - 05:04:527 (4) - 05:06:709 (4) - 05:08:891 (4) - 05:11:072 (4) - 05:13:254 (5) - NC
  52. 05:20:890 (6) - NC

good luck!
Topic Starter
Akareh

_MiaoFUuU_ wrote:

Hi NM (Fourm req)

Niamh

  1. 00:11:799 (3) - blanket put it to x:236 y:224 sure
  2. 00:32:935 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - suggest change into circle Nope. I don't see any problem with my actual pattern. Sliders fit and flow fine as they are now.
  3. 00:39:435 (6) - NC,00:40:526 (1) - NC sure
  4. 00:43:799 (7) - NC,00:44:526 (1) - NC Nope, not here. Setting NC here and having nothing after that slider is kinda awkward, I think.
  5. 00:56:435 - add a circle sure
  6. 01:07:254 - try this rhythm https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5641217 Nope, it's way too confusing. I'm maping to the guitar since it's the prominent sound here.
  7. 01:19:799 (4) - stack at 01:21:254 (2) - x:291 y:35 sure
  8. 01:25:254 (1,2,3) - not beautiful beautified
  9. 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) - I can't pass this kind of stream....spacing is too far,plz consider to change(you can use slider instead of 01:46:163 (3,3) - or you can use common's stream)
  10. 01:48:163 (4) - NC nope, NC every two big white ticks
  11. 01:56:345 (2) - optimise sure
  12. 02:01:254 (5) - NC nope, NC every two big white ticks
  13. 02:05:617 (4) - NC nope, NC every two big white ticks
  14. 02:07:799 (5) - ↑
  15. 02:09:981 (4) - ↑
  16. 02:12:163 (4) - ↑
  17. 02:14:345 (4) - 02:16:526 (4) - 02:18:708 (5) - 02:20:890 (4) - ↑
  18. 02:31:799 (2,3) - blanket and 02:31:799 (2,4) - stack yes to stack. As far as I know, I'm already blanketing that
  19. 02:38:799 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  20. 02:39:435 (3) - NC nope, not necessary
  21. 02:45:526 - suggest add a circle but there isn't a sound there?
  22. 03:13:527 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  23. 03:15:435 (4) - NC no
  24. 03:20:890 (4) - ↑ nah
  25. 03:21:617 (1) - ↑ nein
  26. 03:24:163 (4) - ↑ いいえ
  27. 03:26:345 (4) - ↑ нет
  28. 03:28:527 (5) - ↑ όχι
  29. 03:28:890 (1) - ↑ 아니
  30. 03:29:617 (5) - ↑ nope
  31. 03:32:890 (4) - stack at 03:31:254 (4) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5641330 and then NC it yes to stack, no to NC
  32. 03:35:072 (5) - NC uh uh
  33. 03:37:254 (4) - ↑ nope
  34. 03:39:436 (4) - 03:41:617 (4) - 03:43:799 (4) - 03:45:981 (6) - 03:52:526 (1) - 03:53:617 (6) - ↑
  35. 04:15:435 (1,4) - stack yes
  36. 04:21:981 (5) - NC
  37. 04:23:072 (4) - 04:23:617 (1) - NC
  38. 04:25:254 (4) - NC
  39. 04:27:435 (4) - 04:27:799 (1) - ↑
  40. 04:29:617 (3) - ↑
  41. 04:31:799 (3) - ↑
  42. 04:33:981 (3) - 04:34:435 (1) - 04:34:708 (1) - ↑
  43. 04:34:616 (4,5,8,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  44. 04:36:163 (3) - NC
  45. 04:38:345 (3) - ↑
  46. 04:39:435 (6) - ↑
  47. 04:40:799 (4,1,4,1) - same with 01:46:254 (4,1,4,1) -
  48. 04:42:708 (5) - 04:43:435 (1) - 04:44:890 (5) - NC
  49. 04:47:072 (4) - 04:49:072 (1) - 04:49:254 (6) - NC
  50. 04:55:799 (4) - 04:56:890 (4) - NC
  51. 05:00:163 (4) - 05:02:345 (5) - 05:04:527 (4) - 05:06:709 (4) - 05:08:891 (4) - 05:11:072 (4) - 05:13:254 (5) - NC
  52. 05:20:890 (6) - NC

good luck!
Thanks! :)
riktoi
Just a small place holder until I finish my mod.

quoted from the description of this youtube video :

Mayumi Sugihara wrote:

ティルナノーグ stands for "Tír na nÓg", which means "Land of Youth" in Irish. For further info, you know where to look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%AD...
So, according to this, the title should be something like "Land of Youth...". I don't really count myself as a metadata expert so it would most likely be best to check with someone who can understand the language so you could have as accurate of a title as possible.

Expect the rest of the mod in like 3-6 hours, don't give me kds until I post it thanks.
Topic Starter
Akareh

riktoi wrote:

Just a small place holder until I finish my mod.

quoted from the description of this youtube video :

Mayumi Sugihara wrote:

ティルナノーグ stands for "Tír na nÓg", which means "Land of Youth" in Irish. For further info, you know where to look:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%AD...
So, according to this, the title should be something like "Land of Youth...". I don't really count myself as a metadata expert so it would most likely be best to check with someone who can understand the language so you could have as accurate of a title as possible.

Expect the rest of the mod in like 3-6 hours, don't give me kds until I post it thanks.
ティルナノーグ reads, literally, Tír na nÓg, which is a thing in Irish mythology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tír_na_nÓg (and my diff name is a reference to the story, even!)

I can't submit diacritic marks on the BSS (or at least I always get an error if I try to use them, anyway). That's why the name doesn't have 'em. I can put them in the tags, though, and I've placed the correctly formated Tír na nÓg there, so shouldn't be problems I hope?

Land of youth is a somewhat literal translation of what Tír na nÓg means, but yeah, the japanese actually reads like the irish name.
riktoi

Akareh wrote:

ティルナノーグ reads, literally, Tír na nÓg, which is a thing in Irish mythology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tír_na_nÓg (and my diff name is a reference to the story, even!)

I can't submit diacritic marks on the BSS (or at least I always get an error if I try to use them, anyway). That's why the name doesn't have 'em. I can put them in the tags, though, and I've placed the correctly formated Tír na nÓg there, so shouldn't be problems I hope?

Land of youth is a somewhat literal translation of what Tír na nÓg means, but yeah, the japanese actually reads like the irish name.
That is sorted then.

Here is my mod, as requested.

[niamh]

00:32:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since there are strong sounds on both white and red ticks here you are missing quite a lot of emphasis. (probably best to put a lot more toned down jumps than in the example xd)

00:51:435 (1,2) - the massive jump distance between these makes the jump feel a bit "floaty". is it possible for you to move these 00:51:254 (8,1) - in a way that the distance between 00:51:435 (1,2) - would be around 2.5x?

00:52:526 (1) - how about having a slight sv increase for this slider ( 00:48:163 (1,1) - to somewhat mirror the effect of these) you could also increase the spacing of these 00:52:890 (2,3,4) - a bit and then have the speed diminish here (like you already do)

01:17:981 (5,6) - might want to try ctrl + g on both of these since there isn't 3 sounds like in the pattern before (unless you just want it to mirror the other pattern)

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the stream jumps in these feel pretty awkward. I'd prefer if you made them flow into each other more naturarly

02:38:617 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - in my opinion something like this would fit the drum better

02:44:890 (4,5,6) - consider the same as 01:17:981 (5,6) - (making it into circular flow)

02:53:617 (4,5,6) - how about slightly increased sv for these three?

02:56:163 (5) - there's a strong sound on both the white and red here too

03:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - *stream jump explanation* (if you were to use the same pattern I used you could make it blanket the slider)

03:24:890 (6) - minor aesthetic thing here: you could make these 03:24:890 (6,1) - go side by side and then do the same for these 03:25:981 (3,4) - . you already have something similar going on here

03:50:163 (3,4) - blanket is slightly off /me runs

03:58:708 (4,1) - same here ^

04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - best to just keep this one withount stream jumps. it's pretty similar to 04:30:345 (5,6,7,8) - but it's a bit more intense (after all, these are not actually in the song but only there to build up emphasis so better keep them a bit more toned up)

04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - *stream jump explanation*

I hope you keep working this to perfection ^w^/

from my modding queue
Topic Starter
Akareh

riktoi wrote:

Here is my mod, as requested.

[niamh]

00:32:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - since there are strong sounds on both white and red ticks here you are missing quite a lot of emphasis. (probably best to put a lot more toned down jumps than in the example xd)
I guess? Tried a nifty little pattern there, let's see if it works with some more mods.

00:51:435 (1,2) - the massive jump distance between these makes the jump feel a bit "floaty". is it possible for you to move these 00:51:254 (8,1) - in a way that the distance between 00:51:435 (1,2) - would be around 2.5x? Not really, 00:51:435 (1) would get way to close to the previous stream for comfort IMO. The floaty jump here was intentional, anyway.

00:52:526 (1) - how about having a slight sv increase for this slider ( 00:48:163 (1,1) - to somewhat mirror the effect of these) you could also increase the spacing of these 00:52:890 (2,3,4) - a bit and then have the speed diminish here (like you already do) I don't really like random SV changes, tbh. I've fiddled a bit with the next pattern, increasing a bit the jump at 00:53:254 (4,1) since that was a neat idea, though.

01:17:981 (5,6) - might want to try ctrl + g on both of these since there isn't 3 sounds like in the pattern before (unless you just want it to mirror the other pattern) yeah, the idea with these triangles throughout the map was to kinda have the second set mirror the first one. I'm also not control+g'ing here since I think the jump at 01:18:345 (6,1) feels better if 6 goes in that direction, imo.

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - the stream jumps in these feel pretty awkward. I'd prefer if you made them flow into each other more naturarly They flow well as they are, though? I mean, it follows the curve and then goes into a straight line for the next slider.

02:38:617 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - in my opinion something like this would fit the drum better Maybe. I'm waiting on some feedback from BN's before deciding what to do with stream jumps throughout the diff.

02:44:890 (4,5,6) - consider the same as 01:17:981 (5,6) - (making it into circular flow) No change. Same reason as before.

02:53:617 (4,5,6) - how about slightly increased sv for these three? Why? I don't think there's anything in the song that would imply a need for SV changes here?

02:56:163 (5) - there's a strong sound on both the white and red here too neato

03:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - *stream jump explanation* (if you were to use the same pattern I used you could make it blanket the slider) flow between 03:13:890 (4,1) is kinda harsh, yeah. But otherwhise it's fine?

03:24:890 (6) - minor aesthetic thing here: you could make these 03:24:890 (6,1) - go side by side and then do the same for these 03:25:981 (3,4) - . you already have something similar going on here Yeah, I made it that way on purpose, but I guess I might as well make those two equals.

03:50:163 (3,4) - blanket is slightly off /me runs #AllBlanketsAreBeautiful

03:58:708 (4,1) - same here ^ #OperationFixAllFuckUps

04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - best to just keep this one withount stream jumps. it's pretty similar to 04:30:345 (5,6,7,8) - but it's a bit more intense (after all, these are not actually in the song but only there to build up emphasis so better keep them a bit more toned up) Sure, removed the jump and did something a lil' bit different with this pattern

04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - *stream jump explanation* this one actually had kinda bad flow, fixed?

I hope you keep working this to perfection ^w^/ yep, that's the idea, at least

from my modding queue
Thank you ~ ;)
KantanDez
from my queue
(i only say fix blanket when i notice a wrong blanket on the first time i play it)
wow you have a really nice style on mapping :D very nice map

Niamh
00:10:345 (4) - imo this one fits in better
00:48:890 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - fix triangle since its really noticable ( just move 00:49:981 (1,2,3) if it gets in the way )
01:46:526 - the 1/8 sound(i dont know what that sound is lel) starts here
02:32:890 (3) - fix blanket
02:38:345 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - lower distance
02:41:617 (1,2,3,4) - imo the flow is better this way
03:13:799 - same as 01:46:526
03:35:799 (9) - it would be better if this was a slider ending at the 2nd blue tick(move position of it and curve it pointing to the direction of where 1(blue) is)
04:41:072 (3) - same as 03:13:799
04:48:163 (7) - fix blanket
05:25:526 - maybe add a spinner? :3

good map good song
good luck :D
*throws star*
Topic Starter
Akareh

Term Akatski wrote:

from my queue
(i only say fix blanket when i notice a wrong blanket on the first time i play it)
wow you have a really nice style on mapping :D very nice map thank you! :)

Niamh
00:10:345 (4) - imo this one fits in better sure, why not
00:48:890 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - fix triangle since its really noticable ( just move 00:49:981 (1,2,3) if it gets in the way ) I... can't see the problem here, sorry :(
01:46:526 - the 1/8 sound(i dont know what that sound is lel) starts here Yep. I'm starting later on purpose though, since really the sound becomes strong at 01:46:708. And that sound is the piano buzz thingy in the background.
02:32:890 (3) - fix blanket Fixed, I hope?
02:38:345 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - lower distance Nope. The stream is a little more spaced here since this part of the song is really intense, I think a higher DS here is reasonable.
02:41:617 (1,2,3,4) - imo the flow is better this way oh, that's really cool! niceeee
03:13:799 - same as 01:46:526 same
03:35:799 (9) - it would be better if this was a slider ending at the 2nd blue tick(move position of it and curve it pointing to the direction of where 1(blue) is) there's no sound at 03:36:072 though
04:41:072 (3) - same as 03:13:799 same
04:48:163 (7) - fix blanket yep
05:25:526 - maybe add a spinner? :3 Hmmm I'm tempted, but I like the way that slider art ends the song :D

good map good song
good luck :D
*throws star*
Thank you for your mod and your star! ;)
And sorry I couldn't reply to you sooner, hectic days :o
Osuology
from my queue sorry I was like 9 days late
L0L?

00:15:981 (2,3,4,5) - I don't think this flow really matches the song or the flow you've already been mapping with. I would recommend something like this:

00:19:617 (7,1) - This jump bothers me I'm not sure why.

00:50:345 (1,1) - NC's are very weird throughout this section, and if you're not going to change it, please tell me why.

01:20:708 (8,1) - This bothers me. First of all, distance is a huge amount, larger than I think would be necessary. Second, again, it's not very consistent with flow. It's a triangle which you really didn't use many of before. (Or at least that I noticed) Try something that feels more snappy than a triangle.

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is a hard decision tbh. I could say that it's stupid to put stream jumps here since you never indicated to the player the map would be this way, but then again there isn't really much before this part that you could change to show the player so... I don't know. Make your decision, personally I would recommend to remove the stream but tbh it's not too important. (Also this applies to the other streams with jumps in them)

02:09:981 (4) - This slider should really be moving upward if you want to remain consistent with your flow. If you look at the other sliders that are on notes like this, they always go the opposite direction of the previous slider, so you should do that with this one.

02:34:617 () - There is a very slight guitar sound here, not sure if you want to map it or not. If you do, you probably should use a slider that ends on this point.

02:36:890 (6) - I don't think dropoff flow is a good think here.

03:49:072 (4,1) - I don't like this jump at all.

04:26:890 (2) - That's awfully close.

05:22:890 (1) - This possibly could be in a different timing section.
Topic Starter
Akareh

Osuology wrote:

from my queue sorry I was like 9 days late
L0L?

00:15:981 (2,3,4,5) - I don't think this flow really matches the song or the flow you've already been mapping with. I would recommend something like this: I don't think there's a problem with it. It also helps me tell the player that they'll encounter similar patterns (like 00:51:072 (7,8,1)). As far as fitting the song goes, I think it does? I also haven't received any complaints about this before, but if it really becomes an issue I'll figure something up. For now I'm keeping it as is.

00:19:617 (7,1) - This jump bothers me I'm not sure why. I can't see a problem? It's consistent with what I've been doing up to that point (heavy drum sound = jump) and the DS isn't really that big, 00:15:254 (7,1) has one that's similar and 00:15:254 (7,1) has an even bigger one.

00:50:345 (1,1) - NC's are very weird throughout this section, and if you're not going to change it, please tell me why. Changed 00:49:981 (5), keeping the rest. Idea was to have one every big white tick, but I forgot that one. The one's at 00:53:617 (1,1,1,1) are placed since I like to point out SV changes as clearly as possible, even if they're not that big a deal.

01:20:708 (8,1) - This bothers me. First of all, distance is a huge amount, larger than I think would be necessary. Second, again, it's not very consistent with flow. It's a triangle which you really didn't use many of before. (Or at least that I noticed) Try something that feels more snappy than a triangle. Reduced DS. I've been using triangles throughout the whole diff, though? Heck, I basically map by making triangles xDDD 00:14:345 (4,5,6) - 00:48:890 (7,8,1) - 00:49:435 (2,3,4) - 01:00:890 (7,8,1) - 01:13:799 (5,6,7) just to point a few that have come up to that point, and there's a looot more past that. I love to make them.

01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - This is a hard decision tbh. I could say that it's stupid to put stream jumps here since you never indicated to the player the map would be this way, but then again there isn't really much before this part that you could change to show the player so... I don't know. Make your decision, personally I would recommend to remove the stream but tbh it's not too important. (Also this applies to the other streams with jumps in them) I really love these stream jumps throughout the diff, for several reasons. First, it's a really calm map, that has practically no streams throughout the diff, so I wanted to make them count, make them feel special somehow everytime they showed up. Streamjumps were the only thing that came to mind when I was mapping. Second, I think they're way more fun to play than an old boring stream here. Third, they're more interesting to look at ;) At this point, unless they are unrankable for some reason, I'd really like to keep them.

02:09:981 (4) - This slider should really be moving upward if you want to remain consistent with your flow. If you look at the other sliders that are on notes like this, they always go the opposite direction of the previous slider, so you should do that with this one. Maybe. I don't think it's that inconsistent, I mainly changed gears here since I didn't have confortable space to make an interesting pattern that went upwards here. Also I wasn't really going for the oppossite direction sliders approach, it just ended like that while I was mapping. 02:16:163 (3,4) - 02:17:254 (6,1) -

02:34:617 () - There is a very slight guitar sound here, not sure if you want to map it or not. If you do, you probably should use a slider that ends on this point. Avoided on purpose, since it made the rhythm way complicated and was awkward to play a slider there when 02:34:708 (8) has a stront sound that should be clickable

02:36:890 (6) - I don't think dropoff flow is a good think here. Why? It plays nice.

03:49:072 (4,1) - I don't like this jump at all. Any reasons for that? It's a big jump, sure, but hardly a stretch considering what's been brought up to that point. It also serves as a way to release energy from the kiai and enter the slow rhythm again IMO.

04:26:890 (2) - That's awfully close. Fixed, I hope?

05:22:890 (1) - This possibly could be in a different timing section.sure
Thanks!
Rapthorn
General
  1. Streamjumps in a 4.5 star map the absolute madman
  2. Sadly there's quite a lot of overmapping going on, and not the good kind
  3. I really like the map and i think you could rank it but the overmapping needs to go
Took me like 3 minutes before i realized it was cirnos theme
  1. 00:48:890 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - if you could make this even spacing between the notes so it looks nice and stuff that'd be great
  2. 01:18:708 (1,2) - you're undermapping a triple here, and from what i gather the 2 follows the drums since there's no flute, so mapping it would be justified imo. you also map this 01:20:345 (5,6,7) - triple a second later, which makes ignoring the first one questionable.
  3. 01:41:617 (4) - Not sure if i agree with having the sliderend cover such a strong beat. Id rather see the slider be 1/2 and have 4 jumps instead.
  4. 03:08:890 (4) - almost exactly the same lol
  5. Taking a closer look at it you copied a lot 03:08:890 (4,1,2,4,5,6) - between here and 01:42:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example. Come on dude. You're better than that. Get off your ass and map a new section, its boring but copying just to save time is not cool. The map quality suffers for no good reason.
  6. 01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - look man i love jumpstreams, and i love that you have the balls to map them in a 4.5 star map, but there's just nothing justifying the jump, the 1/8 piano thing starts at 01:46:526 (3) - , not 01:46:708 (1) - , there's no sound on 01:46:072 (2) - and 01:46:435 (2) - and not an ongoing beat explaining the 9 note stream. Id just remake it into a jump + triple into the 1/8 slider. Sorry.
  7. 02:00:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Does this combo really need to be 8 notes? you could put an NC at 02:01:072 (4) - or something.
  8. 02:11:799 (3,4) - I hear a sound for a triple here, but not 02:12:435 (5,6) - here? You could keep the same intensity by just switching them around without making it overmapping. But then again maybe i just cant hear the triple.
  9. 02:38:617 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Same as my last point about the stream. There's really no way to justify this being the hardest part of the map or a continuous sound for a stream at all and it hurts to say because they're really charming
  10. Skipped modding the part that was basically copying
  11. 03:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Stream issue again :/
  12. 03:36:163 (1,3) - muh ocd line them up properly
  13. 04:32:890 (1) - This could be moved around and straightend out a bit or so to blanket the 2 better
  14. 04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - you know. and even if you're going to justify it with the violin, it changes tone at 04:34:798 (2) - , not 04:34:708 (1) - , so that needs to be changed either way. I highly reccommend removing the stream for something else though. It doesnt fit the intensity either.
  15. 04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ----
  16. 05:07:436 (1,2,3,4,1) - As an example, this stream here is at least somewhat justified because there's a very loud continuous violin sound. the jumpstreams dont have that.
The mod seems a lot harsher than it actually is, its mainly pointing out the streams. I definitely think this could be your first ranked map if you remove the overmapping. Good luck <3

Edit: if you want to discuss the streamjumps i have time for another hour or so, then ill be gone for a while
Topic Starter
Akareh

Rapthorn wrote:

General
  1. Streamjumps in a 4.5 star map the absolute madman told you I liked to live dangerously when I requested the mod, didn't I? xDDD
  2. Sadly there's quite a lot of overmapping going on, and not the good kind
  3. I really like the map and i think you could rank it but the overmapping needs to go
Took me like 3 minutes before i realized it was cirnos theme Cute. Took me like 3 full listens.
  1. 00:48:890 (7,8,1,2,3,4) - if you could make this even spacing between the notes so it looks nice and stuff that'd be great fixed, I think?
  2. 01:18:708 (1,2) - you're undermapping a triple here, and from what i gather the 2 follows the drums since there's no flute, so mapping it would be justified imo. you also map this 01:20:345 (5,6,7) - triple a second later, which makes ignoring the first one questionable. sure, changed on all instances where this repeats
  3. 01:41:617 (4) - Not sure if i agree with having the sliderend cover such a strong beat. Id rather see the slider be 1/2 and have 4 jumps instead. sure I guess
  4. 03:08:890 (4) - almost exactly the same lol ^
  5. Taking a closer look at it you copied a lot 03:08:890 (4,1,2,4,5,6) - between here and 01:42:708 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - for example. Come on dude. You're better than that. Get off your ass and map a new section, its boring but copying just to save time is not cool. The map quality suffers for no good reason. I only copied a pattern, but I guess it was kinda lazy yeah. Remapped that.
  6. 01:45:981 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - look man i love jumpstreams, and i love that you have the balls to map them in a 4.5 star map, but there's just nothing justifying the jump, the 1/8 piano thing starts at 01:46:526 (3) - , not 01:46:708 (1) - , there's no sound on 01:46:072 (2) - and 01:46:435 (2) - and not an ongoing beat explaining the 9 note stream. Id just remake it into a jump + triple into the 1/8 slider. Sorry. I'm an absolute madman for no longer
  7. 02:00:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Does this combo really need to be 8 notes? you could put an NC at 02:01:072 (4) - or something. fixed
  8. 02:11:799 (3,4) - I hear a sound for a triple here, but not 02:12:435 (5,6) - here? You could keep the same intensity by just switching them around without making it overmapping. But then again maybe i just cant hear the triple. nope, I fucked up here
  9. 02:38:617 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Same as my last point about the stream. There's really no way to justify this being the hardest part of the map or a continuous sound for a stream at all and it hurts to say because they're really charming Fixed
  10. Skipped modding the part that was basically copying
  11. 03:13:254 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Stream issue again :/ hai hai
  12. 03:36:163 (1,3) - muh ocd line them up properly ocd'd
  13. 04:32:890 (1) - This could be moved around and straightend out a bit or so to blanket the 2 better The idea was to blanket with 3, 2 is just there because flow
  14. 04:34:435 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - you know. and even if you're going to justify it with the violin, it changes tone at 04:34:798 (2) - , not 04:34:708 (1) - , so that needs to be changed either way. I highly reccommend removing the stream for something else though. It doesnt fit the intensity either. Fixed
  15. 04:40:526 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ---- yep
  16. 05:07:436 (1,2,3,4,1) - As an example, this stream here is at least somewhat justified because there's a very loud continuous violin sound. the jumpstreams dont have that.
The mod seems a lot harsher than it actually is, its mainly pointing out the streams. I definitely think this could be your first ranked map if you remove the overmapping. Good luck <3

Edit: if you want to discuss the streamjumps i have time for another hour or so, then ill be gone for a while
Thank you :) And sorry I took so long to answer this.
iLaskee
Try putting a circle at:
Place: X: 112 Y: 240 When: 00:16:072
I think it adds more detail to the beatmap. Causing it to feel like it is placed in a good position to make people get better at 4 star maps, causing them to play it multiple times, sometimes when live streaming. Which makes it a bit more popular.
Topic Starter
Akareh

iLaskee wrote:

Try putting a circle at:
Place: X: 112 Y: 240 When: 00:16:072
I think it adds more detail to the beatmap. Causing it to feel like it is placed in a good position to make people get better at 4 star maps, causing them to play it multiple times, sometimes when live streaming. Which makes it a bit more popular.
I'm sorry but there's no sound to justify a note there :o
Thanks for checking, though!
iLaskee
Well the note at
SPOILER
X:156 Y:20, 01:07:617
Has no purpose of sound to be there either. Even it being silent, It has no purpose of being there. (Not trying to dog on your beatmap skills.)
The bit of logic sucked, I know. :|
- Frontier -
sorry for a very late mod xD
quick check sorry, no kd please
[Niamh]
Source : 東方Project
00:04:526 (1) - move to x 298 y 255 for a perfect blanket with 00:03:435 (2)
00:24:890 (3) - x 224 y 132 ^
01:35:981 (1) - delete nc
01:44:708 (1) - ^

Overall is okay. Not good or bad.
Good luck
Topic Starter
Akareh

- Frontier - wrote:

sorry for a very late mod xD
quick check sorry, no kd please nah man, even if it's a quick mod you deserve them
[Niamh]
Source : 東方Project yep
00:04:526 (1) - move to x 298 y 255 for a perfect blanket with 00:03:435 (2) I think you mean x: 298 y:225? 255 is way to low to blanket anything
00:24:890 (3) - x 224 y 132 ^ yep
01:35:981 (1) - delete nc I like to point out big jumps with NCs and afaik this isn't an unrankable issue?
01:44:708 (1) - ^ Keeping it for consistency with ^

Overall is okay. Not good or bad.
Good luck
Thank you for checking! :D
Hessu_H
Here's your NM!

It's just mostly blanket stuff as there's wasn't much i could find :(

boom
00:11:072 (1,3) - Blanket could be improved
00:39:435 (1,2,3) - Fix blanket
01:05:254 (7,1) - Blanket improvement
03:12:708 (2) - You're missing a strong sound on the white tick here. Maybe make this a 1/2 reverse?
03:43:799 (4,5) - Blanket improvement
03:44:526 (6,1) - ^
03:54:345 (6,7) - A slider would fit better here
03:59:072 (1,2) - This jump kinda feels too big as the sound isn't that loud
04:03:345 (5) - The sound here isn't too big for a note imo
04:06:708 - The intensity of sound increases here so maybe increase hitsound volume a bit?
04:32:890 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these?
05:16:526 (1,2) - A blanket here would be great
05:18:708 (3,4) - ^
Topic Starter
Akareh

Hessu_H wrote:

Here's your NM!

It's just mostly blanket stuff as there's wasn't much i could find :(

boom
00:11:072 (1,3) - Blanket could be improved
00:39:435 (1,2,3) - Fix blanket
01:05:254 (7,1) - Blanket improvement
03:12:708 (2) - You're missing a strong sound on the white tick here. Maybe make this a 1/2 reverse?
03:43:799 (4,5) - Blanket improvement
03:44:526 (6,1) - ^
03:54:345 (6,7) - A slider would fit better here I feel like the two notes play better if they're both clickable here
03:59:072 (1,2) - This jump kinda feels too big as the sound isn't that loud
04:03:345 (5) - The sound here isn't too big for a note imo Rhythm is way more interesting to play this way though?
04:06:708 - The intensity of sound increases here so maybe increase hitsound volume a bit?
04:32:890 (1,2) - Maybe blanket these?
05:16:526 (1,2) - A blanket here would be great
05:18:708 (3,4) - ^
Everything else fixed as best as I could.
Thank you! :)
ChemicalJunky
Here from my modding queue

Niamh

01:22:708 (10) - Can you make this slider parallel to this one 01:23:072 (1) - ?

01:23:435 (2) - ^

01:27:435 (1) - Move to x: 36, y:108

01:37:981 (8) - make this parallel to 01:38:345 (1) - ?

01:40:345 (7) - stack this circle on the end of this slider 01:39:435 (4) - ? I mean it's already basically there

02:37:254 (7,8) - Maybe make this a blanket. I think the jump it makes will match the sudden pick up in intensity

04:32:526 (7) - Make this slider parallel to this one 04:32:163 (6) -

I don't think there's anything else to worry about in my opinion :D The changes I mentioned are really just personal nitpicks(parallel lines <3) and probably not something to worry about Hope this helped and good luck!
Topic Starter
Akareh

Suishohana wrote:

Here from my modding queue

Niamh

01:22:708 (10) - Can you make this slider parallel to this one 01:23:072 (1) - ? I really like the slightly not parallel slider patterns, so I'm keeping this as is to mantain the pattern formed by 01:22:708 (10,1,2). I'll make 01:23:435 (2,3) parallels though, and also thanks for making me look at this, 01:23:072 (1) wasn't centered correctly :o

01:23:435 (2) - ^ As stated ^ I'm keeping as is in regards to 1, but made parallel with 3.

01:27:435 (1) - Move to x: 36, y:108 Sure

01:37:981 (8) - make this parallel to 01:38:345 (1) - ? Nope, idea was to be parallel with 01:37:617 (7) here

01:40:345 (7) - stack this circle on the end of this slider 01:39:435 (4) - ? I mean it's already basically there yep

02:37:254 (7,8) - Maybe make this a blanket. I think the jump it makes will match the sudden pick up in intensity nah, I like the use of the dropout flow here since it matches that the guitar ends abruptly IMO

04:32:526 (7) - Make this slider parallel to this one 04:32:163 (6) - yep

I don't think there's anything else to worry about in my opinion :D The changes I mentioned are really just personal nitpicks(parallel lines <3) and probably not something to worry about Hope this helped and good luck!
Thank you for your mod and your star :)
William K
What a good mapset.

[Niamh]

  1. 00:08:890 (5) - I recommend NC-ing here since it fits the music.
  2. 00:10:345 (4) - How about making this straight up like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6056990? It looks more beautiful XD
  3. 00:11:981 (4,5) - Making this a shaped trapesium would be nicer for aesthetics, I think. And it would fit much better in the music since there's a spacing for drums.
  4. 00:32:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The star is good, but how about making them spaced lower since that part is pretty calm or just consider making them sliders for a good rhythm
  5. 00:35:072 - Lowering the sound here would be some help to the music.
  6. 00:48:345 (2,3,4,5,6) - These could blanket 00:47:799 (5) - better.
  7. 01:07:072 (6,7,8) - I think you put it the wrong way, 01:07:072 - 01:07:254 - should've been a slider, and 01:07:345 - 01:07:435 - must've been those 2 notes since you hear, the strong instrument is at 01:07:345 - 01:07:435 - . So making them like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6057051 would've been better.
  8. 01:07:617 (9) - Making number 9 nearer to 01:07:254 (8) - would be much better since 01:07:799 (1) - feels way stronger and number 9 feels inaudible.
  9. 01:18:345 (6) - How about CTRL+G-ing this slider so players would not have to move their mouse too fast directly. If you like trolling, it would be good to kill players by HP drain bit by bit XD
  10. 02:21:435 (6,7,8) - Because these notes are triplets, the spacings looks uneven. Consider moving the triplet down a bit?
  11. 02:21:981 - I think lowering SV here is not needed since there's only break and 1 circle there.
  12. 03:24:890 (6,1) - How about moving number 6 to the left a bit and then make 03:25:254 (1,4) - them the same? It would be better rather than making them different.
  13. 04:43:799 (2) - Blanket this if you meant to. But if not, I recommend blanket this slider to keep them tidy.
  14. 05:20:708 (5) - Consider making this tidier.

I think that's all from me :3 It's a good song and mapset. Btw is it Cirno's theme? :V
Topic Starter
Akareh

William K wrote:

What a good mapset.

[Niamh]

  1. 00:08:890 (5) - I recommend NC-ing here since it fits the music. sure
  2. 00:10:345 (4) - How about making this straight up like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6056990? It looks more beautiful XD yeah why not xDD
  3. 00:11:981 (4,5) - Making this a shaped trapesium would be nicer for aesthetics, I think. And it would fit much better in the music since there's a spacing for drums. I'm keeping this pattern as it stands here. Mostly because I really like the aesthetic of this pattern, but also because I think it plays better like I have it here.
  4. 00:32:890 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - The star is good, but how about making them spaced lower since that part is pretty calm or just consider making them sliders for a good rhythm Originally I had some sliders here, but those were changed due to some mods pointing out that the drum sounds which these are following would give better feedback if all notes were clickable instead of only 1/2 of them. The spacing isn't really that big, it's just a 1.9 and this is an Insane (even if a kinda easy-ish one). Also the jumps help me prepare players for the section at 00:45:981 (1).
  5. 00:35:072 - Lowering the sound here would be some help to the music. Sure, but there's not much I can lower here, the section is at 20% volume
  6. 00:48:345 (2,3,4,5,6) - These could blanket 00:47:799 (5) - better. Fixed, I hope?
  7. 01:07:072 (6,7,8) - I think you put it the wrong way, 01:07:072 - 01:07:254 - should've been a slider, and 01:07:345 - 01:07:435 - must've been those 2 notes since you hear, the strong instrument is at 01:07:345 - 01:07:435 - . So making them like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6057051 would've been better. Nope, this was made on purpose. The guitar 3-string sound at 01:07:072 (6,7,8) is way too prominent to not have it in the rhythm.
  8. 01:07:617 (9) - Making number 9 nearer to 01:07:254 (8) - would be much better since 01:07:799 (1) - feels way stronger and number 9 feels inaudible. Stacking it under 8 would be way to confusing, though. I think the lesser evil is just placing it in the middle as it is, connecting both sliders.
  9. 01:18:345 (6) - How about CTRL+G-ing this slider so players would not have to move their mouse too fast directly. If you like trolling, it would be good to kill players by HP drain bit by bit XD Nope. I think if I control+g here I break the flow and the mirroring of the previous triangle pattern, which was the intention here. The jump is high but it plays well IMO. This also repeats pretty much everywhere this pattern comes up, so it's a consistent thing throghout the diff
  10. 02:21:435 (6,7,8) - Because these notes are triplets, the spacings looks uneven. Consider moving the triplet down a bit? Oh, hey, nice catch!
  11. 02:21:981 - I think lowering SV here is not needed since there's only break and 1 circle there. I... didn't even notice this slow lol. I need the section to kick off the kiai though and the SV corrects when the next part begins so it really wouldn't be necessary to change but I guess random SV changes are kinda lame so I'll fix it xDD
  12. 03:24:890 (6,1) - How about moving number 6 to the left a bit and then make 03:25:254 (1,4) - them the same? It would be better rather than making them different. No to both. For 6 because I just like triangle patterns and they play just fine here man. Let a dude love his triangles. For 1 and 4 no because I made that on purpose. Plays good, is aesthetically interesting and helps me direct the flow better to the left in the next patterns.
  13. 04:43:799 (2) - Blanket this if you meant to. But if not, I recommend blanket this slider to keep them tidy. Fixed
  14. 05:20:708 (5) - Consider making this tidier. Triangles, man. Not changing mainly because just a tidy curve is boring to me and also I mirror this in 05:21:799 (7,1)

I think that's all from me :3 It's a good song and mapset. Btw is it Cirno's theme? :V
It is cirno's theme. I love the remix because it sounds nothing like it, lol.

Thank you for the mod and the star! ;)
thzz
hi~
from my Hitsound mod queue!
I came here just for checking hitsounding.

you said you're worring about the way to use clap. however, I don't feel it so randomly, rather, you can improve more about the way to use finish imo. this song has many good places to use finish sound, so you should use this more aggressively I think.
try my suggestions. let's go.

[Niamh]
  1. 00:11:617 (2) - add finish
    1. 00:15:981 (2) - add finish / remove clap
    2. 00:16:163 (3) - add clap
  2. from 00:19:799 - , only here, you can consider the way to use clap. the brilliant whistle sound will be fit much more imo. try these.
    1. 00:21:981 - / 00:22:708 - / 00:23:435 - remove clap / add whistle
    2. 00:25:799 (5) - remove whistle
    3. 00:25:981 - remove clap / add whistle
    4. 00:26:708 - remove clap
    5. 00:27:072 - remove clap / add whistle
    6. from 00:28:526 - to 00:32:890 - , remove all clap. this part is still silent part, so it's not fit for ths song imo.
  3. 00:40:526 (4) - this bell sound on the song rings at 00:40:526 - just "once". you may have heard this three times, however, second and third are just "echo". you don't have to set whistle several times.
    1. 00:40:890 - remove whistle
    2. 00:41:254 - remove whistle
  4. 00:52:526 - remove clap / add finish
  5. 00:53:617 (1,1,1) - I think, there isn't any necessity to put different sound. it may make feeling of randomliness.
    1. 00:53:981 - remove whistle / add whistle
    2. 00:54:345 - remove clap / add whistle
  6. 00:54:708 - remove clap / add finish the cymbal rings.
  7. 01:01:072 (8) - Sampleset:Auto / remove finish meaningless bassdrum sound imo.
  8. 01:03:435 - remove clap / add finish
  9. 01:05:617 - Additions:Drum / add finish / remove clap downbeat or beginings of measures often can be good places to put finish I think.
  10. 01:07:799 - ^
  11. 01:09:981 - ^
  12. 01:11:799 (5) - add whistle?
  13. 01:14:163 (7) - remove finish
  14. from 01:12:163 - , during this Kiai. some finish sounds loud a bit for me. additionally, you can put more clap imo. try these.
    1. 01:14:163 (7) - remove finish
    2. 01:15:981 (5) - remove finish
    3. 01:16:163 - remove finish / add clap
    4. 01:20:163 - remove finish / add clap
    5. 01:20:345 (7) - remove clap
    6. 01:20:526 (9) - add clap
    7. 01:22:890 - remove finish
    8. 01:24:708 - ^
    9. 01:24:890 (7) - ^
    10. 01:29:072 - remove clap?
  15. 01:29:617 - remove whistle / add finish
  16. 01:31:799 - ^
  17. 01:33:981 - ^
  18. 01:35:072 - / 01:35:617 (5,6) - add finish
  19. 01:35:981 - remove finish
  20. 01:36:163 - add finish
  21. from 01:37:254 - , try this downbeat finish pattern.
    1. 01:37:254 - add finish
    2. 01:37:617 - ^
    3. 01:37:981 - ^
    4. 01:38:163 - remove finish
  22. 01:38:345 - remove whistle / add finish
  23. 01:40:526 - ^
  24. 01:42:708 - add finish
  25. 01:43:799 - ^
  26. 01:53:254 - add whistle consistent with 01:48:890 -
  27. 02:18:708 - add finish
  28. from 02:39:435 - , during this Kiai. same as from 01:12:163 - ,
    1. 02:41:435 - remove finish
    2. 02:43:254 - remove finish
    3. 02:47:435 (4) - remove finish / add clap
    4. 02:47:617 (5) - remove clap
    5. 02:47:799 (6) - add clap
    6. 02:47:981 (7) - remove finish
    7. 02:50:163 - remove finish
    8. 02:51:986 - remove finish
  29. 02:56:890 - remove whistle / add finish
  30. 02:59:072 - ^
  31. from 03:01:254 - to 03:05:617 - . why this part so silent? I suggest to put some sounds.
    1. 03:01:254 - add finish
    2. 03:01:981 - add whistle
    3. 03:02:345 - add finish
    4. 03:02:890 (5,6) - add finish both
    5. 03:03:435 - add finish
    6. 03:04:163 - add whistle
    7. 03:04:526 - / 03:04:890 - / 03:05:254 - add finish
  32. 03:05:617 - remove whistle / add finish
  33. 03:07:799 - ^
  34. from 03:09:981 - to 03:14:345 - , same as before
    1. 03:09:981 - add finish
    2. 03:10:708 - add whistle
    3. 03:11:072 - add finish
    4. 03:11:618 (5,6) - add finish both
okay, stop to check hitsounding here. my mod would be soooooo long, and probably it's too tiring to check for you.
you can improve your hitsounding after 03:14:345 - to take almost same way as before.
if you need further mod for hitsounding, don't hesitate to ask me~

sorry for my laziness, gl!
Topic Starter
Akareh
Than you for your mod thzz!

I don't have a stable internet access right now, but I'll check this and give you feedback as soon as I'm able.
Topic Starter
Akareh
Updated with the hitsound changes pointed by thzz.

No answering post since I applied everything suggested, no changes or objections from my part. :)
Naxess
From the offline #modreqs thread

General


  1. There's no need for "na" in the tags, since it's already in the title anyway.

  2. You can also add the following tags:

    1. comiket 89 c89 (event)
    2. ZUN (composer of the original theme)
    3. ethnic celtic world (genre)
    according to the sources listed in the description.

  3. The source would more accurately be "東方紅魔郷 ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil." , as the original theme comes from this game.
    Add "東方Project" to your tags instead.

  4. Is letterboxing during breaks intentional? It's on by default, and from what I've seen a lot of people don't prefer it, but if it's intentional then it's fine.

Niamh



  • Hit Objects
  1. 00:10:708 (5,6) - This is the same as 00:08:526 (1,2,3,4) - instrumentally. The streams in the song are in groups of two, so having them play three times and then a slider instead of, what would've been, the fourth stream feels a bit strange. Consider unifying these rhythms.

  2. 00:08:526 (1) - Why is this NCed when 00:10:708 (5) - isn't? Same with 00:10:072 (1) - and 00:07:799 (4) -. NCing should be based off the fundamental structure of the song, so placing an NC in one part of the song but not in it's parallel part(s) would mean inconsistency. In my opinion you should cancel NC at 00:08:526 (1) - and NC 00:07:799 (4) - instead.

  3. 00:09:981 - This was mapped at 00:07:799 - , and I see no reason to end a slider on it for this part. Generally downbeats would want to be clickable, especially starts of streams, because it allows the player a point of reference to the rhythm. This, in turn, allows them to hold a greater accuracy throughout the map and follow the rhythm of the song better, which is what the game is all about. Click the circles, to the beat.
    Consider doing something like this, for instance.

  4. 00:25:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - This section's rhythm feels very... hmm off. You'll notice the sliders end on the downbeats, and in this case the parallel downbeat, 00:25:254 - is being emphasized, but 00:27:435 - is not. The most problematic thing with the rhythm, however, is these three sounds 00:24:526 - 00:24:708 - 00:24:890 - , they're pretty good, right? But in the next measure these sounds are not being reflected in the same way at all, 00:26:708 - 00:26:890 - 00:27:072 - . 00:25:981 (1,2,3) - this could be moved up one beat to fit with how it was at 00:24:163 (1,2,3) - , for example.

  5. 01:45:435 (2) - Consider replacing this slider with a circle and a 1/2 slider like you did at 01:43:254 (2,3) - 01:41:072 (2,3) - 01:38:890 (2,3) - .

  6. 01:46:526 (1) - This repeating slider should end on 01:46:708 - according to the way the piano plays here. It'd be very odd to continue the 1/8 repeat all the way to 01:46:890 - , because the song doesn't suggest that from what I can hear, or am I wrong? Refer to 01:55:254 (6,7) - 04:58:526 (4,5) - .
    ^ 03:13:799 (1) -
    ^ 04:41:072 (1) -

  7. 02:12:163 (4,5,6) - This triple seems a bit weird. There isn't even an impact at 02:12:254 - , so that's overmapping. There is, however, a sound on 02:12:072 - , which doesn't happen to be mapped. Why resort to overmapping when there are clear alternatives that actually reflect the song?
    Consider moving your notes as such to match the instrumental cues of song properly.

  8. 02:21:254 (5) - Perhaps this should be NCed for the same reason as 01:02:890 (1) - and especially 03:48:527 (1) - , since it's parallel.

  9. 02:47:072 (1) - 01:19:799 (6) - Inconsistent NCing, consider unifying them. If you're about to argue that the last one is harder to play, then may I ask why it's even harder? Sure, it may be later in the song, but the song still sounds the same so why should the intensity vary so much at the degree where you have to NC one but not the other? It doesn't really make any sense. 02:55:799 - Is also a parallel measure, for instance. I'd have just removed NC.
    ^ 03:28:345 (4,1) - Swap their NC for consistency with 02:01:072 (1) - .
    ^ 03:29:617 (6) - NC for consistency with 02:02:345 (1) -

  10. 03:31:526 (5,6,7) - This is most definitely overmapping and is also inconsistent with how you decided to place the intensity over the notes in it's parallel measure 02:03:981 (4,5) - .

  11. 03:52:526 (1) - You broke your NC pattern of every other downbeat here.
    Move your downbeat NC pattern by an offset of one downbeat to restore it:

    1. 03:52:526 (1) - Cancel NC
    2. 03:53:617 (4) - NC
    3. 03:54:708 (1) - Cancel NC
    4. 03:55:799 (2) - NC
    5. 03:56:890 (1) - Cancel NC
    6. 03:57:254 (1) - Cancel NC
    7. 03:57:981 (3) - NC
    8. 03:59:072 (1) - Cancel NC
    9. 04:00:163 (2) - NC
  12. 04:27:799 - 04:25:617 - 04:41:617 - 04:43:799 - This is the last time I'm mentioning NC, and it seems like a major problem in this map. Firstly, make them consistent. Secondly, place them meaningfully. If you don't agree, feel free to explain yourself. Generally, they'd very often be placed on powerful sounds, downbeats, transitions, streams, etc. Sure, you can NC like this as well, but if you don't know how the song is structured and can NC accordingly in order to establish consistency, you should avoid doing so. Consider revising your new combo placement, or at the very least, look through your map for these things.

  13. There are also some other things regarding this part, 04:27:799 - 04:25:617 - , rhythm to be exact. Note how 04:23:435 - is a slider end, 04:25:617 - is also a slider end, but 04:27:799 - is not. If you really want to emphasize those sounds, allow the player to click on the first one that appears, don't end a slider on it. Use the same pattern for the following measures as well, 04:34:526 - 04:36:526 - 04:38:708 - .

  • Hitsounds
  1. 00:07:799 (4,5,6,7,8) - This hitsound pattern is pretty good, try doing the same at 00:09:981 - and 00:10:708 - for consistency.

  2. 00:09:617 - 00:16:163 - From these we can conclude that 00:18:345 - is missing a clap.

  3. 00:40:163 - Not sure this whistle belongs here, refer to 00:44:526 - . Consider unifying them. Whether you add or remove doesn't really matter, as long as it's consistent.
    ^ 00:45:254 - refer to 00:40:890 -

  4. 00:50:345 - refer to 00:45:981 - , in this case there's a whistle on one but not the other.
    ^ 00:52:163 - 00:52:345 - refer to 00:47:799 - 00:47:981 -
    ^ 00:51:799 - 00:52:163 - refer to 00:47:435 - 00:47:799 -
    ^ 00:56:345 - refer to 01:00:708 -

  5. 01:07:435 - I'm pretty sure this should be a whistle and 01:07:072 - should not. Refer to 01:05:254 - and 01:09:617 - .

  6. 01:12:435 - imo you can silence the end of these 3/4 sliders. It gets a bit confusing that the tail and the head of the next slider sounds the same.
    ^ 02:39:708 -

  7. 01:47:072 - Was this supposed to be a soft sampleset? The drum sampleset sounds very off with those harsh whistles in this section.
    ^ 03:14:345 -

  8. 02:12:163 - 02:12:526 - add whistles like you did at 02:07:799 - 02:08:163 -

  9. 01:28:890 - 01:29:254 - refer to 01:20:163 - 01:20:526 -
    ^ 02:55:072 - 02:55:435 - refer to 02:46:345 - 02:46:708 -

  10. 03:19:617 - Clap for consistency with 03:18:526 -

  11. The consistency between the various phases seem to be very consistent. What is not consistent, however, is how you're using them in accordance to each measure and their parallels within each of these phases, see my examples above. Note that wherever there is one error, there's probably two more due to the song repeating itself twice. Consider requesting a recheck from thzz as well, to make sure everything is in order.

Good luck!
Topic Starter
Akareh

Naxess wrote:

From the offline #modreqs thread

General


  1. There's no need for "na" in the tags, since it's already in the title anyway. I guess, yeah :)

  2. You can also add the following tags:

    1. comiket 89 c89 (event) I don't think comiket is really necessary in the tags? I mean I'll add it if I must but yeah Actually I'll add this, why not right?
    2. ZUN (composer of the original theme)Reasonable, yeah. Hadn't thought about adding this.
    3. ethnic celtic world (genre)Not really necessary, I think? Genre is added later when approved, and this will be catalogued as Instrumental I guess. Same as nº 1, I'll add it if I must but I don't wanna clog the tags with unnecessary stuff if I can avoid it.
    according to the sources listed in the description.Actually I'll add this, why not right?

  3. The source would more accurately be "東方紅魔郷 ~ the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil." , as the original theme comes from this game.
    Add "東方Project" to your tags instead. Sure, I'd had to take a look at other touhou ranked maps, but this seems reasonable enough for now.

  4. Is letterboxing during breaks intentional? It's on by default, and from what I've seen a lot of people don't prefer it, but if it's intentional then it's fine. It's a personal preference, yes. If unreasonable I'll change this though, I don't really care that much.

Niamh



  • Hit Objects
  1. 00:10:708 (5,6) - This is the same as 00:08:526 (1,2,3,4) - instrumentally. The streams in the song are in groups of two, so having them play three times and then a slider instead of, what would've been, the fourth stream feels a bit strange. Consider unifying these rhythms. It's not the same as 00:08:526 (1,2,3,4). On 00:08:617 (2) there is a sound, albeit a faint one. At 00:10:769 there's actually no sound (or at least I can't hear it/justify a note there. What I'm seeing is a hold from 00:10:708 to 00:10:890 and that's why there's a slider there.

    I'm skipping all NC mentions. I'm re-NCing the song from scratch so hopefully all errors pertaining to them will be fixed.

  2. 00:09:981 - This was mapped at 00:07:799 - , and I see no reason to end a slider on it for this part. Generally downbeats would want to be clickable, especially starts of streams, because it allows the player a point of reference to the rhythm. This, in turn, allows them to hold a greater accuracy throughout the map and follow the rhythm of the song better, which is what the game is all about. Click the circles, to the beat.
    Consider doing something like this, for instance. Sure, fixed.

  3. 00:25:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - This section's rhythm feels very... hmm off. You'll notice the sliders end on the downbeats, and in this case the parallel downbeat, 00:25:254 - is being emphasized, but 00:27:435 - is not. The most problematic thing with the rhythm, however, is these three sounds 00:24:526 - 00:24:708 - 00:24:890 - , they're pretty good, right? But in the next measure these sounds are not being reflected in the same way at all, 00:26:708 - 00:26:890 - 00:27:072 - . 00:25:981 (1,2,3) - this could be moved up one beat to fit with how it was at 00:24:163 (1,2,3) - , for example. I'm on the fence about this. I think I get what you're saying, but at the same time the rhythm doesn't really make sense to me if I change 1 from where it is, since that's when the violins start (and what I was following here) and moving 2 and 3 around just feels worse to me while testplaying. I'm keeping this, but I could reconsider.
  4. 01:45:435 (2) - Consider replacing this slider with a circle and a 1/2 slider like you did at 01:43:254 (2,3) - 01:41:072 (2,3) - 01:38:890 (2,3) - . yep
  5. 01:46:526 (1) - This repeating slider should end on 01:46:708 - according to the way the piano plays here. It'd be very odd to continue the 1/8 repeat all the way to 01:46:890 - , because the song doesn't suggest that from what I can hear, or am I wrong? Actually, the piano buzz thing extends to 01:46:981. I'm actually shortening these here because otherwise it would be extremely awkward to play. And I've done this the same way pretty much everywhere these repeat throughout the song:

    Refer to 01:55:254 (6,7) Should extend to 01:55:526 but would be awkward to break from an 1/8 to a 1/4 stream
    ^ 03:13:799 (1) - ^ 03:14:254
    ^ 04:41:072 (1) - ^ 04:41:526
  6. 02:12:163 (4,5,6) - This triple seems a bit weird. There isn't even an impact at 02:12:254 - , so that's overmapping. There is, however, a sound on 02:12:072 - , which doesn't happen to be mapped. Why resort to overmapping when there are clear alternatives that actually reflect the song?
    Consider moving your notes as such to match the instrumental cues of song properly. Actually, yeah. I guess I misheard the triplet and thought it came later.
  7. 03:31:526 (5,6,7) - This is most definitely overmapping and is also inconsistent with how you decided to place the intensity over the notes in it's parallel measure 02:03:981 (4,5) - .yeah, I fixed lots of overmappings throughout the map, seems like this one slipped.
  8. There are also some other things regarding this part, 04:27:799 - 04:25:617 - , rhythm to be exact. Note how 04:23:435 - is a slider end, 04:25:617 - is also a slider end, but 04:27:799 - is not. If you really want to emphasize those sounds, allow the player to click on the first one that appears, don't end a slider on it. Use the same pattern for the following measures as well, 04:34:526 - 04:36:526 - 04:38:708 - .Sure, I could give emphasis to the big drum sounds, but I think finishes already do an excellent job with that and my rhythm is fine enough, following not only the drums but also the soft violins in this part. I would also need to cut some sliders short at places where there's not really a sound (and I know I've done it in some cases throughout this section but I'd rather it's something puntual to emphasize a big sound and not become the norm).

  • Hitsounds
  1. 00:07:799 (4,5,6,7,8) - This hitsound pattern is pretty good, try doing the same at 00:09:981 - and 00:10:708 - for consistency. sure

  2. 00:09:617 - 00:16:163 - From these we can conclude that 00:18:345 - is missing a clap. sure


  3. 00:40:163 - Not sure this whistle belongs here, refer to 00:44:526 - . Consider unifying them. Whether you add or remove doesn't really matter, as long as it's consistent.
    ^ 00:45:254 - refer to 00:40:890 - sure. Added whistles.


  4. 00:50:345 - refer to 00:45:981 - , in this case there's a whistle on one but not the other. sure
    ^ 00:52:163 - 00:52:345 - refer to 00:47:799 - 00:47:981 - I don't think these two are the same, though?
    ^ 00:51:799 - 00:52:163 - refer to 00:47:435 - 00:47:799 - ^ plus they don't have the same intensity, so why should they have to get symmetrical hitsoundings?
    ^ 00:56:345 - refer to 01:00:708 - Again, intensity. 00:56:345 is way softer than 01:00:708 so I can't really have the same pattern?

  5. 01:07:435 - I'm pretty sure this should be a whistle and 01:07:072 - should not. Refer to 01:05:254 - and 01:09:617 - .yep

  6. 01:12:435 - imo you can silence the end of these 3/4 sliders. It gets a bit confusing that the tail and the head of the next slider sounds the same.
    ^ 02:39:708 - I guess? I don't think it is confusing at all though.

  7. 01:47:072 - Was this supposed to be a soft sampleset? The drum sampleset sounds very off with those harsh whistles in this section.
    ^ 03:14:345 - Nope, it was supposed to be a drum sampleset, mainly for the use of the strong finishes at places like 03:19:435 (3,1) -

  8. 02:12:163 - 02:12:526 - add whistles like you did at 02:07:799 - 02:08:163 -

  9. 01:28:890 - 01:29:254 - refer to 01:20:163 - 01:20:526 - Different rhythm? Section at 01:28:890 - 01:29:254 is stronger and leads to the next drum section, so it should have finishes rather than claps to ease the change.
    ^ 02:55:072 - 02:55:435 - refer to 02:46:345 - 02:46:708 -

  10. 03:19:617 - Clap for consistency with 03:18:526 - sure

  11. The consistency between the various phases seem to be very consistent. What is not consistent, however, is how you're using them in accordance to each measure and their parallels within each of these phases, see my examples above. Note that wherever there is one error, there's probably two more due to the song repeating itself twice. Consider requesting a recheck from thzz as well, to make sure everything is in order.

Good luck!
Sorry I took so long to answer your mod, but real life got in the way of vidyagaems. :(
Thanks for your mod, I'll ask for some more hitsound checks.
Ashton
hey, you requesting in my que but honestly, this map doesn't need MUCH modding, and if I were to mod it, it would probably just be a bunch of nazi suggestions that don't really matter, good luck.
Cerulean Veyron
Hello~ short mod heh -w-

[- - Niamh - -]
  1. 00:19:617 (7,1) - I would really think this jump should have been bigger than 00:18:708 (3,4) - for stressing up the dense downbeat. You can try, at least, moving slider (1) a bit up and right without hurting the pattern for sure. You could possibly readjust the slider tail if you still want the flowing to move towards circle (7).
  2. 00:38:345 (4,5,1) - I thought this one could probably be a symmetry patterning, turned out it isn't but the increased distance spacing. Overall, it's pretty fine but visually weird based on the rhythm snap you've used on timeline. Well... rather than balancing it; stack circle (5) somewhere, or add one circle on of these parts 00:38:890 - and 00:39:254 -.
  3. 01:07:254 (8) - Well, that string sounds on the track sounds pretty much continuous. So I think keeping up the stream by making this into 1/4 streaming circles, or at least 1/4 reverse slider if you don't mind, can emphasize and follow the song track much clearer.
  4. 01:28:890 (7,8,1) - Could be better if you make the transition by adjusting the spacing a little bit higher for note density. The track and it's downbeat really deserves something more here tbh, perhaps a jump or just an increase of the distance spacing.
  5. 02:18:345 (3,4,5) - I could literally see you haven't done a spaced triplet like this on any part of the difficulty (except that copy-paste on the last kiai), If I'm right. Which is likely some pattern inconsistency. Either balance the spacing, or redo the rhythm composition here.
  6. 02:39:072 (1) - The new combo on this one seems to be a little, sudden... if you know what I mean. Assuming you haven't add any new combos on some random parts unlike music track changes, or two-track measures on timeline, or slider velocity changes. So this should probably be removed.
  7. 03:54:163 (2,3,4,5) - Optional objective: Well, at least the structure is great. Not unless you've recorrect some placements for these circles in order to shape it in a better formation. Like a square, or triangle, or something that's in a good shape. Kinda minor by the looks of it, so it's up to you~
  8. 03:56:163 - Ehh, why this should be empty though? The piano sounds really audible and mappable, so it deserves a few more notes on this part. If this were a silent track, you could probably leave it as it is. But sadly, it actually isn't.

The last kiai is probably a copy-paste flip yeee c; Excellent structures you've used on this map btw~
Best of luck!
Topic Starter
Akareh

Cerulean Veyron wrote:

Hello~ short mod heh -w-

[- - Niamh - -]
  1. 00:19:617 (7,1) - I would really think this jump should have been bigger than 00:18:708 (3,4) - for stressing up the dense downbeat. You can try, at least, moving slider (1) a bit up and right without hurting the pattern for sure. You could possibly readjust the slider tail if you still want the flowing to move towards circle (7). Oh, yeah, actually I kinda messed up there. Reduced 00:18:708 (3,4) a bit and spaced the next jump a bit more, should be fine now.
  2. 00:38:345 (4,5,1) - I thought this one could probably be a symmetry patterning, turned out it isn't but the increased distance spacing. Overall, it's pretty fine but visually weird based on the rhythm snap you've used on timeline. Well... rather than balancing it; stack circle (5) somewhere, or add one circle on of these parts 00:38:890 - and 00:39:254 -. Actually, I'll make a symmetric pattern here. I'd prefer not overmapping on 00:38:890 - and 00:39:254 - here. Also the slider direction doesn't really matter here IMO the way the pattern is set so I don't have to change that much :)
  3. 01:07:254 (8) - Well, that string sounds on the track sounds pretty much continuous. So I think keeping up the stream by making this into 1/4 streaming circles, or at least 1/4 reverse slider if you don't mind, can emphasize and follow the song track much clearer. Stream it is
  4. 01:28:890 (7,8,1) - Could be better if you make the transition by adjusting the spacing a little bit higher for note density. The track and it's downbeat really deserves something more here tbh, perhaps a jump or just an increase of the distance spacing. I made something different here, hope it works
  5. 02:18:345 (3,4,5) - I could literally see you haven't done a spaced triplet like this on any part of the difficulty (except that copy-paste on the last kiai), If I'm right. Which is likely some pattern inconsistency. Either balance the spacing, or redo the rhythm composition here.I mean, yeah not a triplet, but I've used spaced 1/4 rhythms at sections like 01:28:526 (6,7) - 01:35:981 (1,1) - 02:55:799 (6,7) - and more. I think it plays great, so I'd like to keep it as long as it isn't unrankable?
  6. 02:39:072 (1) - The new combo on this one seems to be a little, sudden... if you know what I mean. Assuming you haven't add any new combos on some random parts unlike music track changes, or two-track measures on timeline, or slider velocity changes. So this should probably be removed. remains of a time where this was an overmapped spaced stream. Wops.
  7. 03:54:163 (2,3,4,5) - Optional objective: Well, at least the structure is great. Not unless you've recorrect some placements for these circles in order to shape it in a better formation. Like a square, or triangle, or something that's in a good shape. Kinda minor by the looks of it, so it's up to you~ Those make a square, though?
  8. 03:56:163 - Ehh, why this should be empty though? The piano sounds really audible and mappable, so it deserves a few more notes on this part. If this were a silent track, you could probably leave it as it is. But sadly, it actually isn't. I'm purposefully undermapping here to only the high piano notes, to emphasize the calmness of this section. I could map to all the piano notes, really, but I feel the return is better here by sticking only to the high ones since they're the ones that really carry the rhythm.

The last kiai is probably a copy-paste flip yeee c; Excellent structures you've used on this map btw~
Best of luck!
Thank you for your mod, Cerulean! :)
Updated ~
Pennek
o/

Niamh
00:04:163 (3) - spacing

00:48:163 (1) - spacing

00:49:254 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I dont see the justification for the big jumps here in the mp3

04:25:799 (5,6,7) - angle feels weird after playing the whole map with mainly sharp angles

Also maybe you want to change the background. this song gives me the feeling of the cold north.

very enjoyable map! :)
Topic Starter
Akareh

[ Pennek ] wrote:

o/ \o

Niamh
00:04:163 (3) - spacing It's fine ~ 00:06:526 (4,1) - 00:13:799 (2,3) - and 00:15:254 (7,1) - all use similar spacing here.

00:48:163 (1) - spacing Intentional, it's one of the strongest sounds of this section, so it should have a high jump IMO, like 00:51:435 (1) - or 00:45:981 (1) -

00:49:254 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I dont see the justification for the big jumps here in the mp3 Has as much justification as the whole of this section, really. I wanted to make spacing big here since it's a unique section in the song that doesn't repeat anywhere else and I felt the buildup at 00:45:617 (4,1,2) - really deserved playing around with some jumps. As for this part in particular, I felt like the rhythm "resets" again at 00:49:981 (5) - so I wanted to make some build up here like at the beginning of the section. Plus it's not that big of jumps, we've had 3.0x before and none of these surpass 2.5x except the last one and that's for buildup as I stated earlier.

04:25:799 (5,6,7) - angle feels weird after playing the whole map with mainly sharp angles I guess, tried something different with this pattern

Also maybe you want to change the background. this song gives me the feeling of the cold north. I see the winter theme in this, but to me it sounds just like a magical kinda music-boxy style, so I think a fantastic themed BG also works as well. Plus we have both "Snow Illusions" and Tír na nÓg in the title, so both interpretations work :) I'll try and find some winter-y fantastical BGs but if I can't find anything I'll keep this one

very enjoyable map! :)
Thank you for the mod :)

And I mean, I could put a cirno BG there this being a cover of her theme and all, but since this sounds almost nothing like it I'd like to have some kinda internal joke if you know what I mean? Like it's Cirno's theme but not really so she ain't in the BG. I'm weird.
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