Ekoro wrote:

Gave tiny feedbacks about the two last diffs. Some tiny things suggested, but overall, both diffs are playable (by top players at least), there aren't any (or not much, at least) flow breaker patterns, etc.

blablabla meow meow woof woof

15:24 Ekoro: ok c'est parti
15:24 *Ekoro is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/857624 UNDEAD CORPORATION - Flowering Night Fever [Wolf's Night]]
15:26 Alheak: dac
15:26 Alheak: jvais relevé pour lui
15:26 Alheak: il dort tout le temps
15:27 Ekoro: lol
15:27 Ekoro: j'vais poster mon avis et aussi pointer quelques trucs
15:27 Ekoro: vite fait
15:27 Alheak: dac
15:27 Ekoro: 00:54:141 (3) - pourquoi pas de new combo sur ces patterns? la partie d'après en a ok
15:28 Ekoro: ça pourrait en plus faciliter les gens qui jouent la map
15:30 Ekoro: 01:01:692 - j'trouve que y'a un vide ici, fin c'est peut-être que moi mais j'trouve que des 1/1 sur ce type de musique c'est assez déstabilisant
15:30 Ekoro: j'aurai mis deux cercles de plus avant 01:01:796 (7,8,9) - parce que c'est des ghost notes (oui oui y a bien des notes, même entre chaque stream/triplés), mais elles sont à peine audibles, et j'aime pas mapper des trucs inaudibles sur ce genre de difficulté
15:30 Ekoro: fin après il suit parfaitement la musique, ce qui est compréhensible
15:31 Ekoro: j'ai pas suivi à 100% Everything will freeze, j'ai ajouté quelques notes parce que ça joue mieux (et ça appuie davantage les streams)
15:31 Ekoro: ici j'aurai ajouté deux notes, m'enfin ça reste que mon avis oui oui je comprends :p
15:32 Ekoro: 01:08:003 - same here, ou au moins j'aurai remplacé 01:07:899 (1,2) par un slider Pareil, les notes sont à peine audible, puis ça donne un léger break avant les streams (et empêche le mash vu que c'est stacké mwahahaha)
15:32 Ekoro: 01:25:279 (1,2,3) - 01:27:037 (6,7,8,9) - j'suis un peu perdu sur ces deux trucs Je suppose que c'est trop stacké et ça confonds avec les 1/4s, du coup j'ai augmenté le spacing
15:32 Alheak: wé puis ça fait contraste avec les pattern précédent
15:32 Ekoro: la musique appuie pas assez pour ces patterns j'trouve
15:33 Ekoro: 01:31:899 (1,2,3,4,5) - changer de spacing sur le 01:32:175 (5) - paraît risqué ; pourquoi pas changer le spacing à 01:32:312 (7), en plus ça suit un rythme 1/1, plus facile pour le joueur je pense J'me trompe peut-être, mais à cette vitesse je trouve que les joueurs voient plutôt ça comme un stream à 217bpm au lieu d'1/3s à 290, mais c'est surtout à cause de 01:32:243 (6) - cette note que le tournant ce fait sur le 5
15:34 Ekoro: 01:37:692 (1,2,3,4,5) - je vois à peu près comment c'est (j'ai déjà vu ça plusieurs fois) mais je sais pas si ça serait un peu trop chaud à jouer En vrai ce stream suce et ne suit même pas la musique, du coup je l'ai refait
15:37 Ekoro: rien d'autre à dire
15:37 Ekoro: y'a pas de pattern flow-breaker, ça suit bien la musique, les streams sont pas trop spaced donc le 290 BPM est jouable
15:37 Ekoro: (j'parle de "pas spaced" mais j'fais le contraire sur ma map lol)
15:38 Alheak: dac
15:38 Alheak: on avait pas mal de plaintes sur les lignes droites de 1/2s
15:38 Alheak: il a nerf quelques unes
15:38 Ekoro: c'est assez dur oui
15:38 Ekoro: c'est sûr que leur donner une forme plus adaptée ça serait mieux, m'enfin si l'idée de ce passage c'est de faire un pattern en ligne (je l'ai vu plusieurs fois)
15:39 Ekoro: ça reste que mon avis mais
15:39 Ekoro: je préfère séparer les lignes en 3 lignes distinctes
15:39 Alheak: 3 cercles?
15:40 Ekoro: nah j'veux dire
15:40 Ekoro: au lieu de faire un seul bloc, on pourrait faire un truc du genre https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4487702
15:40 Ekoro: (pas aussi spaced mais tu vois l'idée)
15:40 Ekoro: j'trouve ça plus facile imo
15:41 Alheak: oh je vois
15:41 Ekoro: 02:13:279 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - ici je vois plus un pattern entier formant un "triangle"
15:41 Ekoro: c'est p'tet ça qui le rend plus difficile
15:41 Ekoro: faire 3 patterns (une ligne chacun), chacun séparée sur la map, ça marcherait aussi Mhhh ça a du sens, j'ai changé les 2 premiers pour un truc de ce genre, ça devrait être + simple à lire et jouer now
15:42 Alheak: oui

Ekoro wrote:

I AM SORRY

Linada wrote:

[Ekoro]

Ekoro wrote:

I AM SORRY

RIP fingers 2k16

00:48:865 - 01:01:899 rip stamina o/ (no sliders ?) the music gets really intense here, the triplets makes it all. i do think that sliders would make it less "emphasizing", and i don't know where i'd place them anyway

Linada wrote:

hi random mod o/ don't kudo if no changes please holy fuck that BG i love it

[Insane]
AR9 and 290BPM, looks like AR7 on 180BPM, raise it to 9.3/4? it's mapped like a 145bpm song, the streams aren't supposed to be singletapped
01:26:106 (9) - NC this part has a NC every 2 measures, and I want to keep that consistency
This diff looks weird, but i guess 290BPM can't help for 4.3 stars

[Extra]
found nothing o/

I got RSI from modding o/

Good luck !

dermit wrote:

I'll see if I can find something to mod:

Normal

01:09:555 (3,4) This might look nicer if you moved the cirle outside for a bit? The (4) to the left that is. yea changed this part a bit

01:38:520 (1,1) - I don't think I like these two sliders - the most emphasized part of the guitar solo (the bend) is left with no representation. Maybe make the slider shorter and add a circle? Not sure I use very few circles in this difficulty, of course those sliders are underwhelming but that's just how it goes

Advanced

I found nothing apart from too many 1/4 sliders :^)

Hard

00:06:451 (7,8,1,2) - I think this pattern doesn't play well at all, but maybe that's me - but there's a note playing in the middle of the slider so there's definitely other ways to map this - your call. changed the triple

00:13:072 (7,8,1,2) - ^ ^

01:05:830 (2,3,4) - this is really hard to play - I don't know if it's fitting for this diff? it should play the same as a slider->stream, the repeat might be confusing to read to i think it's okay for a Hard

01:10:796 (3,4,5) - ^ ^

01:24:451 (3,4) - Doesn't the beat that is a sliderend here warrant more emphasis than 01:26:003 (3) - and 01:26:830 (6) - ? I don't understand what you are trying to say here, but I think I have an idea, if I only mapped a slider end here and put a circle for the other despite them being less important, it's just because we don't have a lot of choice in patterns for Hard, and anyway 01:24:658 - has nothing on it to justify stopping the slider there

02:19:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This might need reworked spacing, make distances between 1,2,3,4 consistant and distances between 5,6,7,8 - or you could have a gradual increase in distance well they're consistent, just gradually increasing every 3 circles

Insane

01:50:934 (3,4) - These could work as a slider repeating twice, that way you would be able to emphasize the lead guitar as well yes, but I don't want to break the flow here, as I don't think the guitar strokes are enough to justify breaking it

02:38:520 (2,3,4,5) - repeating sliders instead please I might consider this with more feedback, it's sure is challenging but it's only 217bpm doubles basically

Rest is too hard. Sorry didn't really find anything major, I guess that means the map is good though right? :^)

Also holy shit ekoro's diff

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I insist that pishi's diff should have higher cs, its kinda hard to read

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I mean, cs 2 with ar 9.6 its like playing ez mode with high ar which looks, weird. Imo the diff should have at least cs 4, it would be so much more fun to play

Ekoro wrote:

Biwa Hoshi wrote:

I mean, cs 2 with ar 9.6 its like playing ez mode with high ar which looks, weird. Imo the diff should have at least cs 4, it would be so much more fun to play

Looking at pishi's diff, it was specifically made with CS2. The spacing is high enough to make it playable.
I know that the AR and the CS makes it fast as hell, but that could be a challenge, heh.
The diff is very good, and CS2 makes it even more special. Using CS4 would increase the global spacing a lot, anyway.

pishifat wrote:

what he said yeah

Linada wrote:

[Wolf]
01:01:692 - missing the beat ? Yes, it's intended.
02:04:589 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - really hard to read Yes, but so is the map in general, and this isn't harder to read than the previous similar patterns.

Cadmium-113 wrote:

[puxtu's SC]
01:38:727 - just pointing this out because i dont know if this was done intentionally or was just passed by, but there's a solor guitar rhythm that follows the timing points 01:38:727 - 01:38:882 - 01:38:934 - if you want to incorporate it into the map
01:57:968 ~ 01:58:382 - this pattern sucks plays rather badly continuing from the previous patterns and could have been done much more better, and therefore i recommend something like this
I'm sorry but I don't hear any 1/4 guitar sound except at this point 01:38:882 -

Pichu wrote:

Awesome map, I love it

Skalim wrote:

[SHD]
00:21:968 - we was talked this before, here for follow the guitar with more accuracy you can do this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4590241
dayum dat pattern, but sorry skalim i'm just following the drum sound here

01:29:261 (89261|3,89365|1) - Those notes what are following? actually the guitar sound is a lil bit faster here

anyway, someone fc'd my SHD lmao

nowsmart wrote:

[puxtu's SC]
01:41:830 - 01:45:141 - i'm not sure it is 1/6 or not.
01:54:865 - 01:55:899 - ^ I'm just following the std diff's snaps
[puxtu's SHD]
01:41:830 - 01:45:141 - i'm not sure it is 1/6 or not.
01:54:865 - 01:55:899 - ^ lol

jakads wrote:

MX
my sc looks like a fucking mx for this guy lmfao

00:21:555 - why is there timing point here metronome set maybe idk ask the std guy

00:07:382 (7382|1) - were you following melody? if so keep, if not delete (no drum)
00:41:313 (41313|1) - ^ yes, it is for the guitar sound

00:25:278 (25278|1,25278|0,25382|0,25382|1,25485|2,25485|3,25589|0,25589|1) - I think this should follow the pattern afterward, so 00:25:278 (25278|1,25278|0) - 00:25:485 (25485|3,25485|2) - make them single uh if only you explain why.. 00:25:072 (25072|3,25072|2,25175|3,25175|2,25278|1,25278|0,25382|0,25382|1) - these double emphasis 2 sounds, 00:25:485 (25485|2,25485|3) - this one for cymbal and 00:25:589 (25589|0,25589|1) - everything onward is regular [1][2][1][2] pattern. I don't see anything wrong about this tbh

01:00:710 (60710|2) - remove I know the sound is too weak, but if you hear it carefully from this point 01:00:658 - until this point 01:01:279 - there's a pedal stream

SHD

00:00:555 (555|1) - I don't here anything here
00:00:969 (969|0) - ^ it is loud and clear

00:25:072 (25072|2,25072|3,25175|3,25175|2,25278|0,25278|1,25382|0,25382|1,25485|3,25485|0,25485|2) - triple, double, single, double, single
if only you gave me a screenshot.. and I don't like to involving any single in this area for SHD lol

01:00:710 (60710|1) - delete same as sc

01:01:072 (61072|1,61072|0) - why double? double the notes, double the fun

XII wrote:

Which diffs do you need testing with? I'm not a modder / mapper but I can do well on everything except ekoro's (Doubt anyone can do well on that one though) lol.

Septembre wrote:

Salut,

Après 2 test de la Extra, dans un avis purement subjectif, je trouve que ce pattern casse beaucoup trop le flow (et est pas plaisant à read) 01:30:244 (1) -


Pour le test

akuma123 wrote:

[puxtu's Super Hot Difficulty]
02:51:348 this could be a LongNote till the guitar sound ends, not necessary but could be xD I wanna quick ending at the end so hold notes won't fit in

Spherical- wrote:

I don't know if this is just me, but the bursts on the mania diffs are a bit too complicated. Maybe take out some of the jumps and simplify it. Or you could just put rolls in their place.

General

Normal

Isn't this missing a finish?

Advanced

Hard

Insane

pishi's Lunatic

Extra

Wolf's Night

Ekoro's Fever

NC The note is by itself

Spork Lover wrote:

Full mod coming up! (Except for Taiko/mania (Sorry Guys D:))

Normal

00:05:003 (1) - The red point on this slider is unnecessary I think, it looks a little weird. made it more obvious instead, eh
00:43:072 (2) & 00:45:555 (1) - : At least one of those should have a red point in the middle imo. not sure, i changed something else instead, should look better
00:56:313 (2) - Move the red point a bit so the previous slider looks mirrored (Ctrl+J and Ctrl+H) with that one: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4766722 changed
01:06:244 (3) - A wavey slider would flow a bit better imo. (This is an example of a pattern, the one I made is unpolished :3) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4766729 changed in another way, a slider too curvy would not fit the general design of the map[/color]
01:14:520 (3,1) - Either make this into a reverse slider OR blanket the singletap a bit by ctrl+H, J and G'ing the slider and repositioning :3 changed
01:28:589 (1) - Slider has a weird shape due to the red point not having a sharp angle. Consider doing a small change. I don't think it looks too bad or innapropriate
01:29:417 (2) - ^
01:35:210 (1) - ^
02:19:072 (2) - Should be a mirror of 02:18:244 (1) for aesthetics. this is fine
02:41:417 (1) - Isn't this missing a finish? I use the song to help me hitsound the map, there is no finish here in the song

Advanced

00:11:624 (1,2) - Why don't they have the same shape? because the blanket wouldn't work otherwise, and this is not a bad design imo
00:38:934 (1,2) - ^
01:23:417 (3) - Move this to x:128 y:288 to compliment the curvy slider. changed in another way
01:49:279 (3) - Finish? see earlier
02:00:865 (1,1,2,3) - Weird NC pattern in my eyes. Consider reconstructing this a bit. the first (1) is part of the previous rhythmical part, if you see what I mean, the second one is one the new part
02:07:899 (4,5) - Relocate those a liiiittle bit down, the transition from 5 and 1 is a little too edgy imo. I can see what you mean, but don't report those kind of details, they're not noticeable enough and people will generally hate you for them lol, this is a waste of time for both the modder and mapper

Hard

01:34:692 (7) - This slider would look a bit better if it was a straight slider instead and rotated a bit compared to the previous one. changed
01:46:796 (1,2,3) - I know the map-set is gimmicky, but imo gimmicky triangle patterns are a little weird. Consider making it a perfect triangle or rearranging a bit. it's actually a 2-2 pattern, added NCs to help with reading them
02:41:417 (1) - Finish?

Insane

00:17:831 (6) - Make a copy of the previous slider and arrange it like the current one. Looks a little weird imo seems just fine to me
00:27:037 (2,3,4,5) - I'd space this stream similarly to this (00:25:796 (3,4,5) - ), because the sliders are a liittle unexpected. changed
00:57:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I feel that there are some hitsounds missing in this section, like some claps or something, since it's so intense. it's jsut fine
01:02:106 (1) - Finish? no, though there's one jsut before that I added
01:14:934 (8,1) - The map contradicts this blanket. Imo it should be a slider with a red point somewhere. Maybe something like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4766941 I like that idea
01:31:072 (7,8) - The spacing here is very weird for an insane. You could instead consider making the DS higher, but placing them near the slider. I used this spacing everywhere prior to this, it's just fine
02:43:899 (6,7,8,9) - I'd space those a bit more tbh because of the quickness of them. they just feel right like that

Extra

Holy moley this is "only" the 3rd hardest diff lol, fun af tho xD
00:28:175 (5,6,7,1) - This angle is really weird. It might be close to 7 stars, but a square pattern into a 135 degree turn is a very underrated pattern. i'm not sure where exactly do you see a square pattern, I'll assume it's the placement of the repeats, but otherwise I did change the slider because the angle was indeed not tight enough to be comfortable
00:45:038 (3) - Move this note more to the left. Maybe to a position like x:320 y:216 don't see a reason why
01:07:486 (3,4,5,6) - Maybe make the pattern a bit like 01:04:175 (3,4,5,6) -, since it's the same kind of section? why just this one then lol, I picked the different pattern because it was too tight to fit comfortably in that corner otherwise
01:33:141 (4,5,6) - There must be a different way to do this. Feels like a very messy triple. should look a bit better now
02:51:348 (1) - Move to x:340 y:80 (Or something close to that.) yeah

That's it for my mod (Got bigger than I thought holy moley) ,o.O Please leave me feedback on my mod so I can improve, and drop a kudosu if it was helpful Good luck with the ranking process y'all!

Spork Lover wrote:

Wolf's Night

00:09:762 (5,6,1,2,3) - I donno about the spacing difference and stacks on this section. It seems a little too extreme even if it's 7.69* And yet it's the pattern that about everyone who can more or less handle this map can play without much trouble, or at least the one that they tend to hit most of the time
00:25:693 (1,2,3,4) - Consider making this the same shape as 00:25:073 (1,2,3,4) -. Not that I'm against it, but why? It's not even trying to be the same pattern at all so what's your reasoning behind this suggestion?
01:05:624 (2) - Blanket this with 01:05:934 (4,6) - instead, looks a little better imo. It makes me cringe because the slider is heading toward 3 not 4... Why would I blanket 4 there
01:07:899 (1) - Very tiny thing, but could add a tiny DS between this and the next note? Sure
01:46:175 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - This shape is really weird, making it a perfect hexagon (Or near perfect) hexagon would fit a little better. Because it's made of 01:45:968 (1,2,3,4,5) - (a more or less straight line) followed by 01:46:485 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - (a S shape), I didn't even try to make an hexagon there lol
01:53:624 (2) - I think this slider might add a few issues in the ranking process since it's the only long slider during the map. And why would it do that? Since when long sliders are prohibited when they fit the song? Or when are they prohibited at all? I don't get what's wrong with it at all, really.. It's just a long slider in a very simple shape that is neither hard to play nor to read, over a long held guitar note to put more emphasis on it. What's wrong with it?
02:48:451 (7,8) - I feel that the claps are important here too. Oops forgot them

dakemoto wrote:

[puxtu's SC]00:06:710 (6710|0) - remove and 00:06:710 (6710|1) - on Clap?
00:19:072 - add one note?
00:40:641 (40641|2) - remove and 00:40:641 (40641|3) - on Clap?
00:59:830 (59830|3,60037|3,60244|2) - remove?

[puxtu's SHD]00:46:382 - add one note on Clap.
00:57:141 ~ 00:58:692 / 02:19:899 ~ 02:21:451 - try two types pattern? : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4765163
00:59:830 (59830|3,60037|3,60244|2) / 01:00:865 (60865|2,61072|1) - remove?

always no make LN xD. good luck~ i like that.

- Gadian - wrote:

Hello there from my modding Que :3

I may not be the most experienced player and modder but i am going to give it my best shot

Extra

00:01:434 (4,5,6) - That shape isn't necessary here and doesn't really emphasise on anything true, changed the shape in a more fitting way
00:23:831 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There are better alternatives to squares imo well this seems just fine to me, if you had a better suggestion i'd have considered it but here I don't really see what I could do
01:00:038 (7) - Angle it a bit more it wouldn't be consistent with the previous slider's shape then
01:00:244 (9) - Breaking the flow technically, it doesn't, the slider leniency allows the player to play this slider just like the others, i just decided to make it that way here to emphasize the finish on the following slider
01:13:382 (4,5,6,7) - That plays bad this one only or the previous one as well? I could have understand if it were both but just this one doesn't really make sense since it the same as the previous one, just mirrored
01:43:624 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - That shape throws me off I don't really see what's the problem, does it play bad? or is it just the shape that doesn't look good to you?
02:06:244 (4,5,6,7,8) - That feels weird to play for some reason changed somehow, i'm not sure if it'll be better but it's a test
02:19:486 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Shape again

Spork Lover wrote:

Ekoro's Fever

00:09:451 (3,4) - I'd position this a looot more to the right (I know about the overlaps, but I think that'd fit a bit better.) should be fine
00:28:175 (1,2,3,4) - Really sick pattern o.O, but my god it's hard to read. (Really fun xD) couldn't do anything better around here
00:30:865 (1) - Are finishes like this one part of the music? 'Cause they feel a little out of place when it comes to playing the map. This seems also obvious to me. I didn't want to use a finish every 1/1 (this is how the music goes) or this would sound weird. I still changed it, but if it's too much, i may remove them... although no finishes makes this part very blank
00:45:554 (1,2,3) - Imo the spacing here is too dense compared to everything else. Maybe space 2 and 3 a bit more away from the first note? this was a little bit hard to fix :c
01:01:899 (13) - NC Dunno why i fixed it, but both NC and no-NC works anyway.
01:13:279 (3,4,5,6) - The last part of the chorus is so intense, that I think you could DS those a little more without it hurting the mapset. doesn't seem so, to me
01:14:624 (2,3,4) - You play around with perfect triangle patterns a lot, and I'd value that higher than stream blankets. A perfect triangle? kappa Anyway, fixed!
01:49:279 (3) - Why is this a whistle? moved the whistle 1/2 earlier
02:00:037 (2) - NC The note is by itself yep
02:05:003 (3) - NC, since the two back n' forths are NC'd, and it's the main beat of the song. how is this not a NC wtf, fixed
02:08:727 (3) - Why is this not NC'ed, when 02:07:072 (1) is? removed the other NC
02:16:279 (8,9,10) - Space this a bit more, since 02:15:865 (2,3,4) - is far from 02:16:072 (5,6,7). done
02:51:141 (4) - Imo two single taps would look better. done

Vayentha wrote:

Hi ! :3 I wanted to make a mod, so here it is (I'm not any experienced mapper at all, I'll focus more on the playing side of things rather than things like timing or over/under-mapping) :

If any of my mod seems like bullshit, just ignore it.


NORMAL :

SPOILER

The 'jump' between
02:22:382 (2) -
and
02:24:451 (1) -
feels a bit overdone to me, I would make the jump half smaller. But it's using the same DS

ADVANCED :

SPOILER

AR4.5/AR5 fits the map best in my opinion. AR6 should be just fine, but if I get more feedback on this i'll change it

Medium length sliders like those :
00:06:658 (1) -
00:07:486 (3) -
make me a bit uneasy. Most repeating ones are nice though, and long ones too, as they emphasize nicely the music.
In my opinion, more short sliders like those would fit the song better if the replaced the medium lengthed ones :
00:07:175 (2) -
00:08:003 (4) -
Short sliders fit exceptionally well the music at : (But maybe if there was too much short sliders then the already present short sliders would emphasize less the parts they are at ? Again, if I say bullshit, ignore me)
00:53:831 (1,2,3,4) -
02:16:589 (1,2,3,4) -


I also noticed that there are very very few hitcirles at the first half of the song, it puts me off a bit. that's just how an advanced diff should be mapped, if there are too much short sliders it'd be too hard, and the medium sized ones help keeping the difficulty relatively easy. same thing with circles, they usually make a map a lot harder

HARD :

SPOILER

AR7.5 instead of AR8 fit the map better in my opinion. this map is quite dense for the diffculty, reducing the AR would make the map feel too overwhelming


At here :
00:50:520 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
00:57:141 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
02:13:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
02:19:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
The spacing increases without a change of pace, it feels a bit awkward to me, personnaly, I'd make the spacing consistent, always as spaced as how the last hitcircles of the patterns are spaced.
Spaced like those (that would feel nicer to me) :
02:33:968 (3,4,5,6) - the music is increasing in tone, which adds intensity to the song, justifying the increase in spacing


At here :
01:43:899 (2,3) -
01:44:727 (5,6) -
01:56:313 (7,8) -
The two circles stacked on each other are a bit off putting, if all the map was like that it would be okay I think, spaced like those it would make more sense to me :
02:27:761 (7,8) - understandable, will change if more complaints, but I think this pattern fits well with the music

INSANE

SPOILER

AR8.5 instead of AR9 fits the map better in my opinion, aside from that, I really like the map ! :3 It flows really well ! same thing as hard, there are a lot of streams here, so reducing the AR would make it harder to read and play

I'd really like to mod the higher diffs but I cannot play them, sadly. If I ever get good enough to play them before this song is ranked, I'll do another mod ! I hope this mapset gets ranked ! :3

Alheak wrote:

Thanks for this unexpected mod! I hope you'll get better at playing then :3

- Gadian - wrote:

00:01:486 (5,6,7,8) - Flow ???
00:11:624 (1,2) - Stack ???
01:33:416 (5,6,7,8,9) - That feels awkward May seem so, but every player who could decently handle this diff has little to no issue to ace that stream.
01:37:797 (7,8,1,2,3) - Shape ???

Strykerto wrote:

00:09:762 (1) - Delete NC? Their isn't a recurring pattern as 00:11:417 (5) - isn't an NC yep, fixed
00:21:037 (7) - NC here follows the guitar, and 00:21:348 (13) - as well the pattern isn't designed to have new combos, and i don't think it's that necessary
00:37:072 (1) - Delete NC as its the same as the first instance fixed
01:08:313 (1) - Is this NC necessary? I can't here a change in music from the previous NC not really
01:28:175 (5) - NC? yeah, done
02:03:141 (1) - Delete NC? yup
02:40:589 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Shouldn't this NC pattern be replicated 02:43:899 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - as well? yep, dunno why i did that

Alheak wrote:

Impressive, good job

EDIT: Oh, it's CtB lol, well nice play anyway

Strykerto wrote:

01:16:174 (7) - NC? I NC'd by pattern there, not by downbeats, so nope
01:17:002 (15) - ^
01:19:486 (7) - ^
01:20:313 (15) - ^
01:26:106 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Why is this NC'ed like this? Wouldn't it be consistent to NC 01:26:934 (5) - instead of 01:26:520 (1) - Good point, although I should probably NC 01:27:348 (1) - this one instead
01:32:727 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - Its the same deal here, is their a certain rhythm to the NC's? Oops, that's an actual mistake, fixed
01:43:486 Same NC pattern as ^. Just curious as to why they aren't NC'ed on downbeat This one is intended, the NCs are based on the guitar, not the downbeats, also spacing/angle changes

jukkaduei wrote:

JUKKADUEI

From NM request

Column |0|1|2|3|

Harby's MX

Great diff
01:29:210 (89210|0,89313|0) - - Remove this note
01:29:261 - Add LN in column 1

sorry rejected, it isn't a single guitar pitch there , the LN doesn't fit good

_underjoy wrote:

SUGGESTIONS FOR PUXTU's SHD
I would really like that those diffs would be split in ways of layering:
SC can focus on what it does, the drums.
SHD can fully layer what the sound offers, namely the riff.
Right now at the moment SHD is just a harder version of the SC, and I would like to change that.
00:03:555 (3555|0,3658|3,3658|2,3865|3,3865|0,3969|2,4175|3,4279|1,4279|2,4486|3,4486|2,4589|1,4796|2,4900|0,4900|1) - those should be in my opinion remapped in to 2-chords, the section would look like that:

Pattern

This plays a little bit harder but adds a lot of flavour to the song. Repeat this in this section, 00:35:624 - 02:01:692 -
00:14:934 - this fragment has the guitar playing in slightly other way, so I'd suggest adding short LNs to the chords to emphasise that the guitar is playing.I think it's a good idea, and doesn't cause too much mess/unplayability. If you think that's too much, you can reject it OR add just one LN to each chord. Notice that with the two LNs, the last one before a triple must be single either way. Repeat this in this section, 00:42:244 - (although this one has stronger drums so you may leave it as it is OR go full balls and combine the two layers), and 02:05:003 - (same, this also has strong drums)

Pattern

00:21:968 - there's a very strong riff playing and I suggest to follow it instead of just drums, you did it perfectly here 00:25:485 - .
00:25:692 (25692|3,25796|2,25796|0,25899|1,26003|3,26003|0,26106|2,26313|0,26416|2,26416|1,26520|3,26623|0,26623|1,26727|2) - those fifthlets are where you can do the pattern. I suggest going jacky, like [12][12][12][12], [12][12][34][34], or [14][14][23][23] - you have plenty of possibilities to choose from. Just make it jam In addition, you can add LNs at the fifth chord because the guitar plays a slightly longer sound. Repeat in this section.

Pattern

01:02:106 - In the choruses I would think of patterns following the guitar (probably twohanded jumptrills) but I think your drum layering is fine here, because I can't get a precise vision of my pattern.
01:15:555 - if you are crazy here, you can make it full chords (to follow the guitar riff), this would make it very jacky and hard but I think it wouldn't be too bad. I leave this to your decision, and probably you would want to ask some top tier players (Halogen-, Shoegazer, Guilhermeziat, jakads) about this suggestion.

1. Considering your use of stuff like 01:29:417 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and 00:50:521 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - , I assume the way this map flows is intentionally slightly awkward.
   
   
2. 00:00:917 (2) - Well, I'm using kinda crappy earphones right now, but I can't really hear any note here. It's already a pretty crazy song/map, so it's probably not necessary to add extra notes like this.
3. 00:03:348 (1) - Maybe use a stack of 2 notes instead? Both beats sound pretty powerful. Do similarly for 00:05:003 (1) - 00:08:313 (1) - etc.
4. 00:03:348 (1,2,3,4,5) - Maybe it's just me, but doesn't it make more sense to group these as (1,2) (3,4) (5,1), rather than (1), (2,3), (4,5) ? This applies to like most of the map so it'd be pretty tedious to fix.
5. 00:07:382 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Might wanna move this thing a bit more to the left, to distinguish the timing between 00:07:175 (4,5) - and 00:07:072 (3,4) - a bit more. And it'll feel less like an anti-jump.
6. 00:19:072 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I hear something like this.
7. 00:20:985 (6,7) - No jump? You've added a jump for the guitar in this section except here.
8. 00:31:900 (3,4) - Maybe increase the spacing on these two? Since the guitar notes are higher. You do it later at 00:35:417 (3,4) - as well.
9. 00:35:624 - Similar stuff from earlier applies here too, so change anything you changed before.
10. 01:02:106 - It looks like you're increasing the spacing gradually through the kiai? To me the first part of the kiai doesn't feel quite powerful enough in terms of spacing, as it already uses more sliders than earlier parts where you'd have a bunch of circles in a row. You just got here from an intense stream, and then the puny jumps at 01:02:624 (4,5,6) - seem kinda underwhelming
11. 01:15:658 (2,1) - You need to immediately change cursor direction here, which doesn't play as well as when you don't have to like at 01:18:968 (2,1) - Also, the music sounds pretty constant so the direction change feels a bit unwarranted.
12. 01:21:968 - Personally I think you should follow the guitar a bit more closely for this section. That one 1/3 slider feels kinda out of place otherwise.
13. 01:54:244 (1) - This is pretty close to the previous note, considering the note is pretty strong.
14. 02:03:141 (5,6) - This kinda breaks consistency with how you always make these more spaced than 02:01:899 (2,3) - . Also they kinda blend into the next diamondpattern, while you don't really have that at 02:03:968 (1,2,3,4) - .
15. 02:04:589 (1,2,1,2) - 1/16 repeat sliders
16. 02:09:968 (1) - Make this a 1/2 slider? Would work well with 02:10:279 (3,5) - .
17. 02:10:796 (1) - Same as above. Also, there isn't really any beat at 02:10:899 - .
18. 02:36:399 - Add note?