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at least it wasn't DQ'd for timing xd
Thank you for the mod but sadly there are no changes I can apply that would help increase the quality of my map.
But thanks anyways xD
On a side note, I asked you if it was at least half done and you were disappointed that I would even ask that so... yeah.
Did some hitsounds improvements, and few mapping adjustments.
This is an exception~
#1
This is a song with 200 bpm spaced streams, which get very extremely difficult to read on lower ARs. There are plenty of cases where songs should be at lower ARs when they should, but this is not one of them.
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Why does it show drain time 4:53 in beatmap score/listing? I thought it should be 5 minutes or up?
theres a glitch where the final spinner in the song doesn't add to the drain timeNXTKitKat wrote:
Why does it show drain time 4:53 in beatmap score/listing? I thought it should be 5 minutes or up?
yeeeeeeëeeê€ee!!!
because you don't download the map and check for yourself if its drain time is long enoughNXTKitKat wrote:
Why does it show drain time 4:53 in beatmap score/listing? I thought it should be 5 minutes or up?
Hey Kroytz! Very cool map, just a couple things I'd like to see taken care of before this moves into the leaderboards.
To tell the truth, I wasn't a big fan of this map when I started modding it, but the way you manage to make the streams and even some of the sliders follow the music is absolutely excellent.
Call me back for a bubble after you've cleared up and discussed the points made here!
[Final Moment]
As -GN mentioned, the alternating between piano and normal hitsounds is a bit jarring to keep rhythm on in almost all skins. It may be better if you turned the piano sounds into additions rather than replacing hitnormal, but at the same time I didn't find it -too- difficult to play, so I'd like more discussion about this.
00:24:367 (3) - This note is overmapped. Please change (2) and (4) into a slider, since there's no sound in the music where this note is at all.
00:29:092 (4) - This slider is obnoxiously loud because of all the drum sounds, lower the volume on it or change the sounding maybe?
00:54:142 (2) - Having this slider end in the opposite direction of the next stream is kinda weird, I'd suggest Ctrl+G here.
01:13:792 (5) - Should be a finish on the head of this slider to match the other drum sounds in this section.
01:22:567 (4,1) - I really don't like this sudden spacing increase right here, I think it would be better with the same spacing as the rest of the miniature streamjumps in this pattern (maybe a tiny bit more, but not with this big of a gap)
01:52:342 (2) - Also overmapped. I'm okay with putting silenced sliderends on nothing, since those play well enough and are part of the meta now, but putting down a circle just to fill the gap between sliders isn't cool.
02:00:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - Taking a close listen at this part (on 50% and 25% speed) it seems like these should all be placed 1/16 earlier. That's pretty weird (and may or may not require an additional timing section) so I'd like other opinions on this section. It may be better to turn it into a repeat slider or something.
02:22:942 (2) - I don't really like the sharp jump from (1) to (2) or the way the flow is kind of awkward from going (2) to (3), so I'd recommend repositioning this slider to be more friendly.
02:58:042 (9,10,11) -, 02:58:567 (16,1,2) - Putting both of these sharp curves in a row causes my hand to cramp awkwardly every time I play it. That's not a problem on its own if it's the sort of difficulty you're going for, but the rest of the map plays so smoothly that I thought it was worth mentioning in case it wasn't intended.
03:15:442 (1,2) - Is there a reason the spacing between these two notes is slightly lower? Looks like a mistake.
03:22:342 (13,14,15,16,1) - I really don't like how heavy the spacing gets here, the speeding up stream is cool but the end is just a little too mean for my tastes. I'd at LEAST like for you to lower the spacing of the final leap to the slider (the distance between (14) and (15) is plenty enough for it imo), but it would be nice to have more skilled players weigh in on this.
03:31:042 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't really like the hitsounding on this star, the alternation between normal hitsounds and the custom (generally quieter) piano sound is a bit jarring since the song's piano is pretty static.
04:39:217 (14,15,16,1) - This whole stream is kinda lol, I can't really play it but it feels ok for the most part. The spacing increase does feel better than the first one though since it's already wide and doesn't get much wider, but I'd still like to see the last couple of notes (or at least the jump to the slider) nerfed slightly.
04:47:842 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same hitsounding issue as last time.
As -GN mentioned, the alternating between piano and normal hitsounds is a bit jarring to keep rhythm on in almost all skins. It may be better if you turned the piano sounds into additions rather than replacing hitnormal, but at the same time I didn't find it -too- difficult to play, so I'd like more discussion about this.
00:24:367 (3) - This note is overmapped. Please change (2) and (4) into a slider, since there's no sound in the music where this note is at all.
00:29:092 (4) - This slider is obnoxiously loud because of all the drum sounds, lower the volume on it or change the sounding maybe?
00:54:142 (2) - Having this slider end in the opposite direction of the next stream is kinda weird, I'd suggest Ctrl+G here.
01:13:792 (5) - Should be a finish on the head of this slider to match the other drum sounds in this section.
01:22:567 (4,1) - I really don't like this sudden spacing increase right here, I think it would be better with the same spacing as the rest of the miniature streamjumps in this pattern (maybe a tiny bit more, but not with this big of a gap)
01:52:342 (2) - Also overmapped. I'm okay with putting silenced sliderends on nothing, since those play well enough and are part of the meta now, but putting down a circle just to fill the gap between sliders isn't cool.
02:00:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - Taking a close listen at this part (on 50% and 25% speed) it seems like these should all be placed 1/16 earlier. That's pretty weird (and may or may not require an additional timing section) so I'd like other opinions on this section. It may be better to turn it into a repeat slider or something.
02:22:942 (2) - I don't really like the sharp jump from (1) to (2) or the way the flow is kind of awkward from going (2) to (3), so I'd recommend repositioning this slider to be more friendly.
02:58:042 (9,10,11) -, 02:58:567 (16,1,2) - Putting both of these sharp curves in a row causes my hand to cramp awkwardly every time I play it. That's not a problem on its own if it's the sort of difficulty you're going for, but the rest of the map plays so smoothly that I thought it was worth mentioning in case it wasn't intended.
03:15:442 (1,2) - Is there a reason the spacing between these two notes is slightly lower? Looks like a mistake.
03:22:342 (13,14,15,16,1) - I really don't like how heavy the spacing gets here, the speeding up stream is cool but the end is just a little too mean for my tastes. I'd at LEAST like for you to lower the spacing of the final leap to the slider (the distance between (14) and (15) is plenty enough for it imo), but it would be nice to have more skilled players weigh in on this.
03:31:042 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't really like the hitsounding on this star, the alternation between normal hitsounds and the custom (generally quieter) piano sound is a bit jarring since the song's piano is pretty static.
04:39:217 (14,15,16,1) - This whole stream is kinda lol, I can't really play it but it feels ok for the most part. The spacing increase does feel better than the first one though since it's already wide and doesn't get much wider, but I'd still like to see the last couple of notes (or at least the jump to the slider) nerfed slightly.
04:47:842 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same hitsounding issue as last time.
To tell the truth, I wasn't a big fan of this map when I started modding it, but the way you manage to make the streams and even some of the sliders follow the music is absolutely excellent.
Call me back for a bubble after you've cleared up and discussed the points made here!
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ahh so fast
poke me again after you get the rebubbles :3
poke me again after you get the rebubbles :3
rip kroytz
more than half the mod in the dq post start with "i don't like"
more than half the mod in the dq post start with "i don't like"
I don't like to be like that but I told you ;_;MillhioreF wrote:
Hey Kroytz! Very cool map, just a couple things I'd like to see taken care of before this moves into the leaderboards.[Final Moment]
As -GN mentioned, the alternating between piano and normal hitsounds is a bit jarring to keep rhythm on in almost all skins. It may be better if you turned the piano sounds into additions rather than replacing hitnormal, but at the same time I didn't find it -too- difficult to play, so I'd like more discussion about this.
at least it wasn't DQ'd for timing xd
Lol, I said that too. Oh well, call me for a rebubble!
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Thank you Millhiore!MillhioreF wrote:
Hey Kroytz! Very cool map, just a couple things I'd like to see taken care of before this moves into the leaderboards.[Final Moment]
As -GN mentioned, the alternating between piano and normal hitsounds is a bit jarring to keep rhythm on in almost all skins. It may be better if you turned the piano sounds into additions rather than replacing hitnormal, but at the same time I didn't find it -too- difficult to play, so I'd like more discussion about this. I can either destroy my keysounds by adding in a soft-hitnormal/feedback underneath each one of them ruining the beauty this song has to offer, or destroy the raw hitsounding by applying these to additionals. A third option would be to replace all these sound files with a different keyboard set (ie a harpsichord) but then it wouldn't sound proper to the music. There should be a 3rd option alongside Sampleset and Additions to layer hitsounds so problems like this regarding feedback wouldn't occur. It'd also promote creative hitsounding while not faulting the player but currently this doesn't exist and the only way to do so is to apply to additions or hitnormal, both which suck for my map. I'll keep them as is and to players who want a good score on this map, turn off custom hitsounds.
00:24:367 (3) - This note is overmapped. Please change (2) and (4) into a slider, since there's no sound in the music where this note is at all. Removed (3), changed (2,4) into slider, deleted unused timing section.
00:29:092 (4) - This slider is obnoxiously loud because of all the drum sounds, lower the volume on it or change the sounding maybe? I don't think it should pose a problem when it follows the music, but I'll agree in the sense that the 'loudness' comes from the unexpected DRrRrrRRs off the repeats. I removed all but the first Finish on the red tick so it isn't so' jarring' as you would put it.
00:54:142 (2) - Having this slider end in the opposite direction of the next stream is kinda weird, I'd suggest Ctrl+G here. Good suggestion, fixed.
01:13:792 (5) - Should be a finish on the head of this slider to match the other drum sounds in this section. Good catch, fixed.
01:22:567 (4,1) - I really don't like this sudden spacing increase right here, I think it would be better with the same spacing as the rest of the miniature streamjumps in this pattern (maybe a tiny bit more, but not with this big of a gap) Toned down the jump a bit. Should be easier to hit while maintaining emphasis.
01:52:342 (2) - Also overmapped. I'm okay with putting silenced sliderends on nothing, since those play well enough and are part of the meta now, but putting down a circle just to fill the gap between sliders isn't cool. Removed the note, removed unused timing section.
02:00:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - Taking a close listen at this part (on 50% and 25% speed) it seems like these should all be placed 1/16 earlier. That's pretty weird (and may or may not require an additional timing section) so I'd like other opinions on this section. It may be better to turn it into a repeat slider or something. It's actually snapped 1/6 prior to where I started my 1/4's but the sliders are in 1/3 while being 1/6 apart from each other. It should start 02:00:092 -. I basically moved my sliders across on the timeline 1/6 backwards, and resnapped the 1/4's to 1/3's. Talk to me about how this plays out and whether a different rhythm should be used or if this should be taken out altogether. Idk why xi made this different than 03:36:292 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - but I personally feel as if it should remain 1/4's for playability's sake. Though, this alternative isn't bad I suppose either.
02:22:942 (2) - I don't really like the sharp jump from (1) to (2) or the way the flow is kind of awkward from going (2) to (3), so I'd recommend repositioning this slider to be more friendly. I don't like how your suggestion goes against my idea of placing both repeat sliders inside the stream loops, but the flow I'll agree isn't the greatest, so I made (2) a better friend to (1) and (3).
02:58:042 (9,10,11) -, 02:58:567 (16,1,2) - Putting both of these sharp curves in a row causes my hand to cramp awkwardly every time I play it. That's not a problem on its own if it's the sort of difficulty you're going for, but the rest of the map plays so smoothly that I thought it was worth mentioning in case it wasn't intended. I'll leave this alone for now.
03:15:442 (1,2) - Is there a reason the spacing between these two notes is slightly lower? Looks like a mistake. Fixed.
03:22:342 (13,14,15,16,1) - I really don't like how heavy the spacing gets here, the speeding up stream is cool but the end is just a little too mean for my tastes. I'd at LEAST like for you to lower the spacing of the final leap to the slider (the distance between (14) and (15) is plenty enough for it imo), but it would be nice to have more skilled players weigh in on this. This build-up into slider stream is a toned down version of the 2nd chorus in regards to spacing. Also factor slider leniency which helps the player reach the slider. I don't space this because I hate the player, I do it because I follow the music ^^.
03:31:042 (1,2,3,4,5) - I don't really like the hitsounding on this star, the alternation between normal hitsounds and the custom (generally quieter) piano sound is a bit jarring since the song's piano is pretty static. I see your point, made them all into whistles.
04:39:217 (14,15,16,1) - This whole stream is kinda lol, I can't really play it but it feels ok for the most part. The spacing increase does feel better than the first one though since it's already wide and doesn't get much wider, but I'd still like to see the last couple of notes (or at least the jump to the slider) nerfed slightly. Surprisingly this plays well (lol) but I'll have to go back to what I said with the former jump in the sense that slider leniency helps the player. And because the 2nd chorus is much more intense than the first, of course the spacing will be that much larger (but really, compared to the first chorus, it isn't all that bigger, but the intensity is more evident here).
04:47:842 (1,2,3,4,5) - Same hitsounding issue as last time. Turned these all into whistles as well.
To tell the truth, I wasn't a big fan of this map when I started modding it, but the way you manage to make the streams and even some of the sliders follow the music is absolutely excellent.
Call me back for a bubble after you've cleared up and discussed the points made here!
I wonder if adding the hit-normal sampleset to all piano hitsounds could be a solution? Just conjecturing here but if the piano hitsound + hitnormal are going to be played together anyways, combining both on audacity could be a solution. (I'm talking about adding the hit-normal .wav directly onto the .wav files of all the piano hitsounds).
Maybe it'll sound really bad tho xP. (I've only tried this with drum-hitnormal on a kick).
Maybe it'll sound really bad tho xP. (I've only tried this with drum-hitnormal on a kick).
That's what Akasha did, and it makes the map a lot more playable at the cost of sounding kinda janky (especially during misses). There isn't really a perfect solution to this, as stated. :/
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I'm not quite sure either... I tried to do some editing in Audacity by combining the keysounds with soft-hitnormal / normal-hitnormal and messing with the volume levels so the feedback wouldn't sound terrible. Although it felt like I may have been going somewhere, the keysounds didn't quite work well together as I had hoped for in practice. Perhaps I wasn't doing it correctly? But I'll leave the sounds as they are for now v_v
It would still be nice to have an option to layer different custom sets together...Like an advanced hitsounding menu or something idk but sad we don't orz
It would still be nice to have an option to layer different custom sets together...Like an advanced hitsounding menu or something idk but sad we don't orz
Still a bit iffy about that stream speedup at the end of the first kiai, but I tested it a bit more and it's not as terrible as it looks. The second one does fit the song quite well too, even if it's a bit cruel (but that's what 7 stars are for!)
Giving this
Bubble #1, as most of the issues have been fixed. If anyone has a better way to solve the hitsounding dilemma, speak now (or in the next week) or forever hold your peace.
Next modders: make sure to double-check 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) too, it fits the music better now but it's kinda weird.
Giving this
Next modders: make sure to double-check 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) too, it fits the music better now but it's kinda weird.
Decided to try and mod this because I want it ranked as quickly as possible
Key
- Green means my opinion or aesthetic
- Purple means semi important
- Red means very important
General
- 03:59:917 (1) - Maybe change the preview point to here. Another good spot to put it could be here 02:04:717 (1) -
Final Moment
- 03:22:642 (1) - Sliders at the end of this are somewhat hard to read sometimes, and it would be stupid if someone were to FC through the streams and lose it due to these. Maybe you could slow down the slider velocity and make slider art that doesn't overlap itself.
- 04:39:442 (1) - There is a chance that the player could be jumpy due to the recent extremely difficult spaced streams. I would suggest lowering the SV and recreating another slider art that doesn't overlap itself.
- 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) Maybe change this pattern to this because it's how most people would be used to playing star patterns "isn't that how like any preschool kid is taught to draw a star anyway?" -Side
- 02:59:692 (15) - Random slider in this particular stream pattern, maybe change to another sharp turn. (I know you use this in other patterns but it was the only one I saw for this stream)
Topic Starter
strickluke's Mod
strickluke wrote:
Decided to try and mod this because I want it ranked as quickly as possibleKey
- Green means my opinion or aesthetic
- Purple means semi important
- Red means very important
General
I had it on the former but I changed it to where it is now because I like the delicacy of the piano.
- 03:59:917 (1) - Maybe change the preview point to here. Another good spot to put it could be here 02:04:717 (1) -
Final Moment
That's all I can really find, I hope this gets ranked. The amount of time you put into this map is amazing, I couldn't ever do anything this great. Good luck! Thank you!!
- 03:22:642 (1) - Sliders at the end of this are somewhat hard to read sometimes, and it would be stupid if someone were to FC through the streams and lose it due to these. Maybe you could slow down the slider velocity and make slider art that doesn't overlap itself. its literally just a loop and and a large curve going inwards lol. If a player can read up to this point, they can most definitely read this slider. Besides, I really like this one and I doubt I'll ever change it. ^.^
- 04:39:442 (1) - There is a chance that the player could be jumpy due to the recent extremely difficult spaced streams. I would suggest lowering the SV and recreating another slider art that doesn't overlap itself. As fitting as a slow slider seems, it loses intensity for all this build up. I like my art as well, overlap isn't a problem here, it's just another loop.
- 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) Maybe change this pattern to this because it's how most people would be used to playing star patterns "isn't that how like any preschool kid is taught to draw a star anyway?" -Side well yknow, maybe my teacher taught us differently :v A star is still a star and I'll keep mines lol
- 02:59:692 (15) - Random slider in this particular stream pattern, maybe change to another sharp turn. (I know you use this in other patterns but it was the only one I saw for this stream)streamsss
Thank you for the mod but sadly there are no changes I can apply that would help increase the quality of my map.
But thanks anyways xDlel so
Just let me know again for the bubble!
- 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - Sounds very weird to me. In my opinion shorten them by one 1/12 tick fits better, I think.
Just let me know again for the bubble!
All right, here's bubble #2!
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congratz babe
congratz babe
DAD
heyy you did it
congrats kroytz :d
congrats kroytz :d
Sexy
Something something streamshapes lmao
Spaghetti = Hold On Stay Strong Deathstreams
Kroytz = Yet To Be Memed Deaths teams
Me = Cancer
All my friends have better maps then me m9
Kroytz = Yet To Be Memed Deaths teams
Me = Cancer
All my friends have better maps then me m9
Topic Starter
"fuck you Kroytz" - Cookiezi 2015That's good enough for me tbh
I am not able to play this map at all, but I have to say I have never seen such beautiful looking longstreams before (not sure if Blue Zenith is the same level) and your sliderart and overall atmosphere are beautiful too! The only thing that bothers me a bit is the section at the beginning (not counting the slow intro) before the long streams start. The rhythm and 1/4-jumps seem a bit too messy (and too generic) there compared to the rest of the map, imo it would have been much more professional to simplify it for the sake of the whole map having simplistic rhythm and patterns. Oh well, that's complaining at a highest level here, good luck with this great map!
I kinda thought the same, but it actually really works given how rough the goreshit-like percussion is in that section, and it really helps compliment the transition from the harsh tone of the song to a smooth and beautiful tone when you go from the 1/4 jumps to the streams so quickly.Desperate-kun wrote:
I am not able to play this map at all, but I have to say I have never seen such beautiful looking longstreams before (not sure if Blue Zenith is the same level) and your sliderart and overall atmosphere are beautiful too! The only thing that bothers me a bit is the section at the beginning (not counting the slow intro) before the long streams start. The rhythm and 1/4-jumps seem a bit too messy (and too generic) there compared to the rest of the map, imo it would have been much more professional to simplify it for the sake of the whole map having simplistic rhythm and patterns. Oh well, that's complaining at a highest level here, good luck with this great map!
Omg i remember playtesting this shit MONTHS ago. Gratzzz Kroytz
Cool!
Guys, you know, that's just convert slider to stream tool ;w;
A TOOL CAN'T MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAN THINGS MADE BY HAND
A TOOL CAN'T MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAN THINGS MADE BY HAND
It's about the way it is used.Cherry Blossom wrote:
Guys, you know, that's just convert slider to stream tool ;w;
A TOOL CAN'T MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAN THINGS MADE BY HAND
doesnt mean this map isnt beautifully made, whats your point?Cherry Blossom wrote:
Guys, you know, that's just convert slider to stream tool ;w;
A TOOL CAN'T MAKE MORE BEAUTIFUL THINGS THAN THINGS MADE BY HAND
Not sure if it was you streaming the day you mapped this , maybe I'm wrong. I am correct on that this is your first ranked map, and I congratulate you on a task well done
The hitsounds skills is real.
Disqualified on mappers' request, there will be a storyboard.
fuk
This better be the most god damn next level storyboard or I'm gonna riot
Hercule_old_1
looking forward to the new storyboard *-*
cl8nhypeBOYSAsphyxia wrote:
Disqualified on mappers' request, there will be a storyboard.
umm seems you missed the best chance to get this ranked. (ಥ_ಥ)
best of the best <3 10/10
it will have storyboard? 100/10
it will have storyboard? 100/10
i will throw all my stars if there's a storyboard, wait. . who's going to be the storyboarder?
Topic Starter
Ashasakiarviejhay wrote:
i will throw all my stars if there's a storyboard, wait. . who's going to be the storyboarder?
Kuo Kyoka wrote:
best of the best <3 10/10
it will have storyboard? 100/10
Couldn't resist taking a look at this beauty. Won't be addressing any gameplay mechanics, because I can't play it.
First off, WOW! What an utterly marvelous and gorgeous deathstream map. Not only does it look absolutely stunning, but the fact you mapped the melody and even (apparently) added some of your own renditions of it throughout the song is a pleasure. Really, really incredibly well done, Kroytz. But let's get down to business:
[General]
[Hitsounds]
Good luck ranking this beauty!
First off, WOW! What an utterly marvelous and gorgeous deathstream map. Not only does it look absolutely stunning, but the fact you mapped the melody and even (apparently) added some of your own renditions of it throughout the song is a pleasure. Really, really incredibly well done, Kroytz. But let's get down to business:
[General]
[Hitsounds]
Now, you normalized the piano melody (Every note is exactly as loud as ever other note). However, in the original mixdown/mastering of Ascension to Heaven, the lowest-pitched notes are actually much less audible than higher-pitched ones, making them sound out of place and somewhat unpleasant to a trained ear in your version. This is extremely nazi, but you might want to adjust your hitsound volume accordingly. These are the notes in question:
Aside from that, I fixed some other pitch-issues:
EDIT: Some of them don't fit your trend of mapping the lower notes of chords because those notes weren't included in the soft-hitnormals.
Since hearing is quite a subjective thing, I can't guarantee all of these are objectively necessary or correct, but I did my best anyway.
Some remaining suggestions:
Mixdown Adjustments
- 00:24:742 (6,7,8)
- 02:52:642 (1,2,3)
- 02:57:367
- 02:59:192 (11,12,13,14)
- 03:08:317 (2,3)
- 03:11:917 (2,3)
- 04:09:442 (1,2)
- 04:14:167
- 04:14:767 (8,11,12,13,14)
- 04:28:642 (1,2)
- 04:33:367
- 04:34:192 (10,11)
Aside from that, I fixed some other pitch-issues:
Pitch Fixes
- 00:23:842 (1) - SC:24
- 02:13:042 (1) - SC:16 and/or SC:18 (Add them to SC:25?)
- 02:22:642 (1) - SC:15 (Add SC:15 to SC:3?)
- 02:32:242 (1) - SC:16 and/or SC:18 (Add them to SC:52?)
- 03:29:842 (2) - SC:15
- 03:31:942 (4) - SC:51 to avoid the ugly pitch-clashing of (4) with (5)
- 03:32:242 (5) - SC:18 (Probably not your intention but whatever)
- 03:34:642 (1) - SC:17 ^
- 03:37:042 (1) - SC:15
- 03:38:242 (1) - Add new section SC:14, let it carry over to 3:38:992 (2)
- 03:39:292 (4) - SC:50 to avoid the ugly pitch-clashing of (4) with (5)
- 03:39:442 (5) - S:C17 (Probably not your intention but whatever)
- 03:49:042 (1) - SC:34
- 04:45:442 (1) - SC:37 or (hypothetically) A#11
- 04:46:642 (2) - SC:8 or (hypothetically) C#14
- 04:47:842 (1) - SC:8 or (hypothetically) C#14
- 04:48:742 (4) - SC:81 to avoid the ugly pitch-clashing of (4) with (5)
- 04:49:042 (5) - SC:19
EDIT: Some of them don't fit your trend of mapping the lower notes of chords because those notes weren't included in the soft-hitnormals.
Since hearing is quite a subjective thing, I can't guarantee all of these are objectively necessary or correct, but I did my best anyway.
Some remaining suggestions:
Other
- 03:22:642 (1) - Increase volume
- 03:51:442 (1) - I can't hear the piano play a note in the original here, but I guess it's your intention to map that.
- 04:39:442 (1) - Increase volume
Good luck ranking this beauty!
Topic Starter
@Liquid Trap:
I'm sorry to give such a lame response, but I am very thankful that you've spent the time to look over my map in its cosmetic detail x3
General - The 2nd green is to reset the custom, otherwise piano notes will be triggered on slider-ticks.
Mixdown Adjustments - I'll have to disregard these because I can't mess with the raw hitsounding for the sake of the customs (but I did try some of them out). If I were to do so, then this map would sound REALLY weird when hitsounds are disabled. And to be honest, for anyone who wants to top score this, or have a clean shot at playing, they'd have to turn customs off anyways.
Pitch Fixes - Currently right now, I am combining keysounds to create chords on accentuated notes. I'll keep some of these in mind though, as they might be helpful in the future.
Mixdown Adjustments - I'll have to disregard these because I can't mess with the raw hitsounding for the sake of the customs (but I did try some of them out). If I were to do so, then this map would sound REALLY weird when hitsounds are disabled. And to be honest, for anyone who wants to top score this, or have a clean shot at playing, they'd have to turn customs off anyways.
Pitch Fixes - Currently right now, I am combining keysounds to create chords on accentuated notes. I'll keep some of these in mind though, as they might be helpful in the future.
I'm sorry to give such a lame response, but I am very thankful that you've spent the time to look over my map in its cosmetic detail x3
This map is so beautifully made in it's entirety, please get this ranked Kroytz, you deserve it.
Storyboard when?
Ranked when?
Ranked when?
Rilene wrote:
Storyboard when?
Ranked when?
domSaur wrote:
Rilene wrote:
Storyboard when?
Ranked when?
This is a true example of a masterpiece.
Props to you Kroytz, you're gifted when it comes to streams.
Props to you Kroytz, you're gifted when it comes to streams.
shortu moddu
GL00:08:242 (1,1) - this note not curving with the slider triggers me more than it should but i guess it really isnt worth changing lo
00:13:042 (1,1) - ^
00:22:642 (1,1) - this one is gud why you shouldve done this more often
00:24:742 (6,7,8,9,1) - I love this stream but maybe spacing this out a biiiiiit more for the volume change would be nice
00:32:092 (8) - this kinda triggers me cuz you mapped it as a 1/6 repeating slider at 00:27:292 (8) - but not here :V
00:36:892 (8) - ^, id just change the first 1/6 thing to a kickslider
00:39:742 (3,4) - weird rhythm, why not just make 3 a kickslider and 4 a 1/2 slider starting on the red tick (you even keysounded the note but didnt make it a clickable beat, even though every other note like that was clickable)
00:51:442 (1) - why didnt you put a kink here?
01:09:742 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - REALLY weird curves for the stream into the slider, and it looks kinda ugly, considering the sound of the music is pretty smooth here, why not make the stream curve with the shape of the repeating slider?
01:21:442 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - still kinda bugs me that this is the only jumpstream in the map but its whatever lol
02:20:092 (15,16,1) - aaa that straight line triggers me
02:34:267 (12,13) - ^
02:39:067 (4,1,2,3,4) - i dont understand why you didnt apply the pattern you used at 02:38:767 (4,1) - 02:38:467 (4,1) - 02:38:167 (14,1) - here as well, its the same sound and is reeeeally inconsistent imo
02:53:992 (3,4,5,6,7) - holy shit lol
03:08:242 (1,2,3) - why did you apply the turn so late into the stream? shouldnt it be at 1?
03:14:842 (9) - you put a turn on the same sound every time but here, whai
03:22:642 (1) - sex
03:41:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I like how you applied the speed change here. but you didnt do it for the 4th point of the mod, even though the sounds are identical
04:17:842 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - brilliant
04:34:042 (9,10,11,12) - im stealing this pattern thanks
beautiful map man, get this ranked fuk sb's
00:13:042 (1,1) - ^
00:22:642 (1,1) - this one is gud why you shouldve done this more often
00:24:742 (6,7,8,9,1) - I love this stream but maybe spacing this out a biiiiiit more for the volume change would be nice
00:32:092 (8) - this kinda triggers me cuz you mapped it as a 1/6 repeating slider at 00:27:292 (8) - but not here :V
00:36:892 (8) - ^, id just change the first 1/6 thing to a kickslider
00:39:742 (3,4) - weird rhythm, why not just make 3 a kickslider and 4 a 1/2 slider starting on the red tick (you even keysounded the note but didnt make it a clickable beat, even though every other note like that was clickable)
00:51:442 (1) - why didnt you put a kink here?
01:09:742 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - REALLY weird curves for the stream into the slider, and it looks kinda ugly, considering the sound of the music is pretty smooth here, why not make the stream curve with the shape of the repeating slider?
01:21:442 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - still kinda bugs me that this is the only jumpstream in the map but its whatever lol
02:20:092 (15,16,1) - aaa that straight line triggers me
02:34:267 (12,13) - ^
02:39:067 (4,1,2,3,4) - i dont understand why you didnt apply the pattern you used at 02:38:767 (4,1) - 02:38:467 (4,1) - 02:38:167 (14,1) - here as well, its the same sound and is reeeeally inconsistent imo
02:53:992 (3,4,5,6,7) - holy shit lol
03:08:242 (1,2,3) - why did you apply the turn so late into the stream? shouldnt it be at 1?
03:14:842 (9) - you put a turn on the same sound every time but here, whai
03:22:642 (1) - sex
03:41:092 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I like how you applied the speed change here. but you didnt do it for the 4th point of the mod, even though the sounds are identical
04:17:842 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - brilliant
04:34:042 (9,10,11,12) - im stealing this pattern thanks
beautiful map man, get this ranked fuk sb's
Hello! beautiful map...
04:39:517 - to me you have to replace the spinner
04:39:517 - to me you have to replace the spinner
this map is complete masterpiece! 
i think ar could be lower tho, if someone wants to ar10 they could always turn on hr.
i think ar could be lower tho, if someone wants to ar10 they could always turn on hr.Talked with Kroytz, she didn't say much but she did say it wouldn't be too much longer. It is at least above half done I know for a fact.Exile- wrote:
How is the storyboard going?
Topic Starter
He*
And you actually do not know the state of the storyboard "for a fact".
And you actually do not know the state of the storyboard "for a fact".
I am apparently delusional, I have called two people who I knew to be male female.Kroytz wrote:
He*
And you actually do not know the state of the storyboard "for a fact".
On a side note, I asked you if it was at least half done and you were disappointed that I would even ask that so... yeah.
Topic Starter
In regards to the storyboard: sorry to disappoint. It's not here. Now to push this forward~
IRC
2016-06-01 16:36 Nozhomi: so I just played it with relax
2016-06-01 16:36 Nozhomi: looks quite polished
2016-06-01 16:37 Kroytz: ty -w-
2016-06-01 16:37 Nozhomi: will check is nothing looks or sounds wrong
2016-06-01 16:38 Nozhomi: 01:44:242 (1) - this circle on corner looks out of place btw
2016-06-01 16:38 Nozhomi: I was really surprised when I played it
2016-06-01 16:39 Kroytz: it was intended to be fitting for the single high-key of the piano
2016-06-01 16:40 Nozhomi: so about hitsounds on the start
2016-06-01 16:40 Nozhomi: I would really use a silent sliderslide for all your sliders before 00:23:842 -
2016-06-01 16:41 Nozhomi: and also reduce volume of slidertics
2016-06-01 16:41 Kroytz: muted sliderslides yes?
2016-06-01 16:41 Nozhomi: yes
2016-06-01 16:41 Kroytz: you can't mute both ticks and slides
2016-06-01 16:41 Kroytz: only one or the other
2016-06-01 16:41 Nozhomi: I said reduce volume
2016-06-01 16:41 Nozhomi: not silent them
2016-06-01 16:41 Kroytz: oh ok
2016-06-01 16:42 Nozhomi: 50% is good for example
2016-06-01 16:42 Nozhomi: because curently it just destroy your ears and sounds quite bad
2016-06-01 16:43 Kroytz: ok, i'll do that
2016-06-01 16:44 Kroytz: (where do i find muted sliderslides)
2016-06-01 16:44 Nozhomi: oh
2016-06-01 16:44 Nozhomi: wait a sec
2016-06-01 16:44 Nozhomi: http://puu.sh/pcNyB/ca5da13db3.wav there you go
2016-06-01 16:44 Kroytz: ty
2016-06-01 16:46 Nozhomi: 00:24:292 (2,3) - Apply to same spacing than your stream pls (2.00x) because there is no reason to have a slightly higher spacing here
2016-06-01 16:47 Kroytz: fixed
2016-06-01 16:49 Nozhomi: 01:27:892 (4) - and other like it, I don't get it why you used a Drum addition on it
2016-06-01 16:49 Nozhomi: it matches no sound on the music
2016-06-01 16:50 Kroytz: more for ending effect
2016-06-01 16:50 Nozhomi: k fine
2016-06-01 16:50 Nozhomi: 01:44:242 (1) - so hope you moved this one XD
2016-06-01 16:51 Kroytz: where would you think it fits best?
2016-06-01 16:52 Kroytz: stacked on top of 01:45:442 (1) - ?
2016-06-01 16:53 Kroytz: i stacked on slider-end :p
2016-06-01 16:53 Nozhomi: why not stack with start of 01:46:042 (2) - ?
2016-06-01 16:56 Kroytz: sure
2016-06-01 16:56 Kroytz: that works
2016-06-01 16:58 Kroytz: its actually a little complicated to work with muted sliders since the hitnormals share some sliders that need whistled slides
2016-06-01 16:59 Kroytz: id have to make two different identical hitsounds and distinguish between the ones with whistles and with mutes
2016-06-01 16:59 Kroytz: for about 5 hitsounds
2016-06-01 16:59 Kroytz: but I think i have space for it to work
2016-06-01 16:59 Nozhomi: yeah k
2016-06-01 17:00 Nozhomi: 03:22:042 (9) - and 04:38:842 (9) - should be NC imo to show the spacing change (and also because it's fking hell hard)
2016-06-01 17:02 Nozhomi: 04:58:463 (9) - same for this one
2016-06-01 17:03 Nozhomi: Also I'm not sure combo color 1 and 2 are nice, they're hard to distinguish from each other
2016-06-01 17:05 Kroytz: id have to disagree because they are treated as the same stream :s
2016-06-01 17:05 Kroytz: as for colors I think theyre fine? uwu
2016-06-01 17:05 Nozhomi: :/
2016-06-01 17:05 Nozhomi: 05:03:999 - You could decrease volume from this point to fit music
2016-06-01 17:06 Kroytz: yes, i will do that
2016-06-01 17:06 Kroytz: oh wait its at 5% already
2016-06-01 17:06 Kroytz: you mean to uh, slowly decrease it over time instead of start at 5%?
2016-06-01 17:06 Nozhomi: oh yeah
2016-06-01 17:07 Nozhomi: ^^
2016-06-01 17:11 Kroytz: alrighty,
2016-06-01 17:11 Kroytz: every white tick i lowered by 4% till it ends on 5% volume starting with 80%
2016-06-01 17:12 Nozhomi: ok
2016-06-01 17:12 Nozhomi: well if you kinda fixed everything I said here, should be fine
2016-06-01 17:15 Kroytz: before posting
2016-06-01 17:15 Kroytz: there might be some debate on the last stream
2016-06-01 17:15 Kroytz: 04:38:242 (1) -
2016-06-01 17:15 Kroytz: i want to see if this is unrankable or if it should be toned down
2016-06-01 17:16 Nozhomi: well he's just massively HARD
2016-06-01 17:16 Nozhomi: could be nerfed a little tbh
2016-06-01 17:17 Kroytz: am nerfing
2016-06-01 17:17 Nozhomi: :>
2016-06-01 17:18 Kroytz: oki
2016-06-01 17:18 Kroytz: time to update. I added 3 new keysounds to accomodate for the 3 muted sliders before the 25 second section you mentioned
2016-06-01 17:18 Kroytz: nerfed the ending
2016-06-01 17:19 Kroytz: fixed the slider ds
2016-06-01 17:19 Kroytz: that one circle
2016-06-01 17:19 Kroytz: and the ending volumes
2016-06-01 17:19 Nozhomi: wait I finish to check everything before update
2016-06-01 17:19 Kroytz: ok
2016-06-01 17:20 Nozhomi: ok go
2016-06-01 17:23 Kroytz: done!~
2016-06-01 17:24 Nozhomi: ok redling it
2016-06-01 17:30 Nozhomi: so you didn't lower the volume on 00:05:842 (1) - these sliders ?
2016-06-01 17:30 Kroytz: oh
2016-06-01 17:30 Kroytz: where would i lower the volume
2016-06-01 17:30 Kroytz: at the slider-start?
2016-06-01 17:30 Nozhomi: the slidertics
2016-06-01 17:31 Kroytz: so basically the blue tick after the slider-start then huh
2016-06-01 17:31 Nozhomi: yes
2016-06-01 17:32 Nozhomi: for all sliders until 00:22:342 -
2016-06-01 17:32 Nozhomi: not 00:22:642 (1) - because the music volume is increasing so it works
2016-06-01 17:33 Kroytz: i did 40% instead is that ok?
2016-06-01 17:33 Kroytz: i think 50 was just a tad bit loud
2016-06-01 17:33 Nozhomi: sure
2016-06-01 17:34 Kroytz: ok
2016-06-01 17:36 Kroytz: updated again :p
2016-06-01 17:36 Nozhomi: also sorry but for last spinner, better start to shutdown volume from 05:03:999 - ><
2016-06-01 17:36 Kroytz: omt
2016-06-01 17:36 Nozhomi: because before this point, it don't match the music
2016-06-01 17:36 Nozhomi: ayyy
2016-06-01 17:36 Kroytz: ok
2016-06-01 17:36 Kroytz: lulul
2016-06-01 17:38 Kroytz: alright
2016-06-01 17:38 Kroytz: lowered by 10% each interval
2016-06-01 17:38 Kroytz: starting with 80 on that side
2016-06-01 17:38 Kroytz: err 70 i mwN
2016-06-01 17:38 Kroytz: mean*
2016-06-01 17:38 Nozhomi: okay
2016-06-01 17:38 Nozhomi: good
2016-06-01 17:38 Nozhomi: go again
2016-06-01 17:40 Kroytz: update #3
2016-06-01 17:41 Nozhomi: OKAY
2016-06-01 17:41 Nozhomi: looks good now
2016-06-01 17:41 Kroytz: =w=
Did some hitsounds improvements, and few mapping adjustments.
This is an exception~
#1
Omg!!
a dream come true (ಥ_ಥ)
a dream come true (ಥ_ಥ)
We fixed a snap and a hitsound last night. Placeholder. I will check when im off from class
edit : continue my mod
- 00:25:567 (4) - i think you can add drum finish on head, its empty w/o hitsound
- 00:30:367 (4) - and others like 00:35:167 (4) - same as above if you agree
- 00:29:092 (4) - 1/8 shoud stop till 00:29:242 - and 00:29:317 - map with a circle i guess. i cant hear drum for 00:29:242 - - 00:29:392 - of 1/8 ticks
- 00:33:442 (1) - should add whistle or your keysound to emphasis the piano
- 00:42:067 - would be nicer if add a note here to keep follow drum
- 00:48:892 (12) - just my taste, maybe move to 372,300 for keep flow on 00:48:442 (9,10) - ?
- 00:59:842 (1,2) - just curious why stack this and dont make like 01:00:142 (4,5) - instead?
- 01:32:392 (2) - somehow hard to hear the music, maybe remove it?
- 02:38:542 (1,1,1) - btw why nc them when spacing isnt changed?
- 03:58:342 (6) - same as last night, i think the drums are in 1/8
- 04:39:442 (1) - <3
call me back after
edit : continue my mod
- 00:25:567 (4) - i think you can add drum finish on head, its empty w/o hitsound
- 00:30:367 (4) - and others like 00:35:167 (4) - same as above if you agree
- 00:29:092 (4) - 1/8 shoud stop till 00:29:242 - and 00:29:317 - map with a circle i guess. i cant hear drum for 00:29:242 - - 00:29:392 - of 1/8 ticks
- 00:33:442 (1) - should add whistle or your keysound to emphasis the piano
- 00:42:067 - would be nicer if add a note here to keep follow drum
- 00:48:892 (12) - just my taste, maybe move to 372,300 for keep flow on 00:48:442 (9,10) - ?
- 00:59:842 (1,2) - just curious why stack this and dont make like 01:00:142 (4,5) - instead?
- 01:32:392 (2) - somehow hard to hear the music, maybe remove it?
- 02:38:542 (1,1,1) - btw why nc them when spacing isnt changed?
- 03:58:342 (6) - same as last night, i think the drums are in 1/8
- 04:39:442 (1) - <3
call me back after
Topic Starter
ty Xinely. Updated~Xinely wrote:
We fixed a snap and a hitsound last night. Placeholder. I will check when im off from class
edit : continue my mod
- 00:25:567 (4) - i think you can add drum finish on head, its empty w/o hitsound
- 00:30:367 (4) - and others like 00:35:167 (4) - same as above if you agree The way I hitsounded this part was a little difficult since I applied a particular hitsound to each individual instrument. The drum-finishes were applied to strong sounding dominant beats like the tail of 00:25:342 (3) - or even this circle 00:25:792 (5) -. The noise pointed out is kind of a weaker sound that I'd probably use a drum-whistle or soft-whistle if anything. But personally I feel as if it might be "over-hitsounded" by trying to sound each part, with the weak instruments included I mean. This is some goreshit level drumming going on tbh.
- 00:29:092 (4) - 1/8 shoud stop till 00:29:242 - and 00:29:317 - map with a circle i guess. i cant hear drum for 00:29:242 - - 00:29:392 - of 1/8 ticks I simplified the rhythm a bit using 1/4s throughout because ending a 1/8 slider on white tick and starting movement on a blue tick circle over a red tick slider (in 1/4 beats) is REALLY awkward to transition to.
- 00:33:442 (1) - should add whistle or your keysound to emphasis the piano I added the whistle there and also to 00:34:342 (5) - because pianos.
- 00:42:067 - would be nicer if add a note here to keep follow drum then it wouldn't look so nice as to end it how i wanted to end it ^^;
- 00:48:892 (12) - just my taste, maybe move to 372,300 for keep flow on 00:48:442 (9,10) - ? Literally pixels but okay, I moved it there : p
- 00:59:842 (1,2) - just curious why stack this and dont make like 01:00:142 (4,5) - instead? The intention here was to have a minor aesthetic buildup into 01:00:742 (10,11,12,13,1) - since the pianos do repeat themselves after-all.
- 01:32:392 (2) - somehow hard to hear the music, maybe remove it? The piano is there despite it being soft and I wanted to capture as many keys in what I think is the most calming/lovely part of the song ^^;
- 02:38:542 (1,1,1) - btw why nc them when spacing isnt changed? The NCs here are to emphasize the arpeggios of the pianos (1,2,3,4 -> 2,3,4,5 -> 3,4,5,6 -> 4,5,6,7) and I change the angles for a bit of aesthetics and visibility. It'd be a little awkward to have them all on the same combo when the piano goes down the arpeggio in this manner.
- 03:58:342 (6) - same as last night, i think the drums are in 1/8 I turned them into 1/8
- 04:39:442 (1) - <3 <33333
call me back after
;OO
here is 2nd bubies from me
gg
woooooo congrats!
Wow that was quick
soft-sliderslider41.wav is unused apparently, you are using the 41th sampleset for the finish sound on circles and the 40th sampleset for the sliders.
Apart from that, congratulations!! Lovely map, bae <3
Apart from that, congratulations!! Lovely map, bae <3
Awesome
Grats
FINALLY~! Congratz~!
best rsi mapu 2016
did this increase by .2 star rating ffs kroytz
ar10 = vomit
no idea why this was chosen...
lower ar's would play much better... as is you have no vision of whats coming so you cant prepare your fingers at all, puts an unneeded amount of focus in reading effort and reaction speed rather than the streaming part. huge disappointment for me cause now I basically have to memorize this to be able to play it well.
no idea why this was chosen...
lower ar's would play much better... as is you have no vision of whats coming so you cant prepare your fingers at all, puts an unneeded amount of focus in reading effort and reaction speed rather than the streaming part. huge disappointment for me cause now I basically have to memorize this to be able to play it well.
Are you... serious right now?Xexxar wrote:
ar10 = vomit
no idea why this was chosen...
lower ar's would play much better... as is you have no vision of whats coming so you cant prepare your fingers at all, puts an unneeded amount of focus in reading effort and reaction speed rather than the streaming part. huge disappointment for me cause now I basically have to memorize this to be able to play it well.
This is a song with 200 bpm spaced streams, which get very extremely difficult to read on lower ARs. There are plenty of cases where songs should be at lower ARs when they should, but this is not one of them.
Although a lower ar might help with with the focus issue, I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be where you would have to "memorize this" to play it well. There are small pockets of time where you can relax your eyes, you just have to know when to do it, imo.Xexxar wrote:
ar10 = vomit
no idea why this was chosen...
lower ar's would play much better... as is you have no vision of whats coming so you cant prepare your fingers at all, puts an unneeded amount of focus in reading effort and reaction speed rather than the streaming part. huge disappointment for me cause now I basically have to memorize this to be able to play it well.
Spaced streams with a slightly lower ar aren't really an issue in this map, I don't think. Although I don't think ar10 is that big of an issue either.TheArchist wrote:
Are you... serious right now?
This is a song with 200 bpm spaced streams, which get very extremely to read on lower ARs. There are plenty of cases where songs should be at lower ARs when they should, but this is not one of them.
Extremely what?!?!?TheArchist wrote:
get very extremely to read
grats kroytz!!