yaysilmarilen wrote:
netherlands 4-2 poland
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10353347
that was a bit unexpected, but yay!
never picking hdhr again
yaysilmarilen wrote:
netherlands 4-2 poland
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10353347
that was a bit unexpected, but yay!
our match was simply amazing. Huge props to MathClass he performed really really well! I didn't think we can come back but oh well that freemod pick / your hdhr was really playing into our handsKRZY wrote:
Mixed feelings for this group stage.
Really proud of how the first-timers in the team performed, especially MathClass. K i R i K a R u has officially been promoted to the driver's seat of the bus that is the Korean team, and it's both impressive and happy to see a player who's been around forever finally making a name for himself as one of the best players in the world at the biggest stage of the game.
A bit disappointed with my own performance, for me it is fair to say I single-handedly threw away the Germany game with the miss on Bonfire and then the Terekakushi pick. Should have thought better. Overall I missed too many times on no-mod maps than I would have liked, but improvements will be made.
Had forgotten how fun this tournament is. Loving it at the moment.
i'll have to agree on this one. Italy could've easily won against other top seed teams with their performance and certainly didn't deserve 2nd lowest seed, same for Korea and high seed. This was one tough group man, other groups were nothing compared to this, everyone played SO well!lesslunatic wrote:
I just wonder how Korea was "high seed" and Germany "top seed" and our team was marked as "low seed" while Portugal was a "medium seed", I would like know what's the "top seed" on groups like Group C, Group B and Group E.. lmao
well, nothing else to say, I am happy of our performance, we almost won against Germany and played really well, I hope a better organization for the next owc.
Next year I would suggest to use some experienced players to make groups properly.
Also completely agree with everything that was said here, we got an awesome experience from these matches at least, and it was damn awesome and competitive to play against you guys.cptnXn wrote:
i'll have to agree on this one. Italy could've easily won against other top seed teams with their performance and certainly didn't deserve 2nd lowest seed, same for Korea and high seed. This was one tough group man, other groups were nothing compared to thislesslunatic wrote:
I just wonder how Korea was "high seed" and Germany "top seed" and our team was marked as "low seed" while Portugal was a "medium seed", I would like know what's the "top seed" on groups like Group C, Group B and Group E.. lmao
well, nothing else to say, I am happy of our performance, we almost won against Germany and played really well, I hope a better organization for the next owc.
Next year I would suggest to use some experienced players to make groups properly.
17 solid hours of streaming laterMr Color wrote:
17 solid hours of commentary later, I am left broken and voiceless
Can't wait to do that again next week!
I think this would be easily remedied by adding a bit of a delay on spectating matches. Add a 5-10 second delay to give time for the playback to buffer properly. It really is a shame to see a game that I think would have a lot of success as a spectator e-sport suffer from bad presentation.xasuma wrote:
Being on the other end of the straw(spectator on twitch) I would like to inquire for someone to attempt and fix fake misses. I know it is "client lag", but there is got to be something someone can do about it.
This one thing is for me at least the most annoying one when watching owc. Hopefully for the next weekends coming, but if it's not possible that quickly, at least for next year. ty
I can't sympathize for him though:fartownik wrote:
Astar's internet GGrEdo wrote:
What happened on Towa yori Towa ni that it was a 4v3?
Well played, nevertheless.
I don't find it particularly disturbing but w/e. If you watched (for example) some Counter-Strike matches you'd see that the players usually tease their opponents in the exact same way. Not like it's not retarded to do that, but it shouldn't be overreacted by banning the player from the entire tournament.Xhomas wrote:
I can't sympathize for him though:
But he had amnesty from that, and I believe doing what he did against NL wasn't enough to ban him entirely from the tournament, no matter how stupid it was.Loctav wrote:
It's not like he wasn't silenced, didn't vandalize the wiki and was on probation, tho
Netherlands, Austria, UK and Taiwan can all put up a good fight against Germany.manjumochi wrote:
It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...
You guys still did pretty well. And in that match you wrote, "Onodera is love"KRZY wrote:
Mixed feelings for this group stage.
Really proud of how the first-timers in the team performed, especially MathClass. K i R i K a R u has officially been promoted to the driver's seat of the bus that is the Korean team, and it's both impressive and happy to see a player who's been around forever finally making a name for himself as one of the best players in the world at the biggest stage of the game.
A bit disappointed with my own performance, for me it is fair to say I single-handedly threw away the Germany game with the miss on Bonfire and then the Terekakushi pick. Should have thought better. Overall I missed too many times on no-mod maps than I would have liked, but improvements will be made.
Had forgotten how fun this tournament is. Loving it at the moment.
Good luckXytox wrote:
Well then... I hoped for a little bit more luck than that.
I was suggesting this as well.Xayne wrote:
I think this would be easily remedied by adding a bit of a delay on spectating matches. Add a 5-10 second delay to give time for the playback to buffer properly. It really is a shame to see a game that I think would have a lot of success as a spectator e-sport suffer from bad presentation.xasuma wrote:
Being on the other end of the straw(spectator on twitch) I would like to inquire for someone to attempt and fix fake misses. I know it is "client lag", but there is got to be something someone can do about it.
This one thing is for me at least the most annoying one when watching owc. Hopefully for the next weekends coming, but if it's not possible that quickly, at least for next year. ty
Loctav ain't got time for that shit m8Harrharrqi wrote:
Edit: more errors. USA beat UK 4-2, not 4-3. The Canadian and German flags are not showing in two instances.
Maybe, in order to fix these errors in the future, try double checking your work.![]()
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As long as people understand this I can die happyAthrun_Yamato wrote:
You guys still did pretty well. And in that match you wrote, "Onodera is love"
Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.manjumochi wrote:
It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...
South Korea again gets bad luck and will play finals to the end if they advance.
Based on the tournament schedule there should be a double elimmination otherwise two Final Weeks makes no sense.Rea Himuro wrote:
I want to know if the knockout stage is going to be double elimination as it has been promised or it will only be a normal knockout?
Because based on the graph that has been posted on wiki, it seems to be just a normal knockout stage which is the same as the previous OWCs.
an osu dev playing in owc is so weird, it's like if Chris Metzen played at a blizzcon 3's tournament on WoW, or IronStylus being in an LCS team on LoL.Tom94 wrote:
Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.manjumochi wrote:
It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...
South Korea again gets bad luck and will play finals to the end if they advance.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p
I really don't mind the delay tbh if it doesn't make me hyped up for the wrong reason or something like that (e.g. someone dropped combo, chance of going into tie breaker then finds out to be client lag orz)Ethelon wrote:
I was suggesting this as well.Xayne wrote:
I think this would be easily remedied by adding a bit of a delay on spectating matches. Add a 5-10 second delay to give time for the playback to buffer properly. It really is a shame to see a game that I think would have a lot of success as a spectator e-sport suffer from bad presentation.
Zallius said that spectators wouldn't like the delay. My personal opinion is that something like 5-10 seconds isn't a big deal and you don't even need to delay the mp data with a delay that small. The trade-off would be worth it (assuming that a similarly small amount of time would actually fix the issue).
I've always questioned that in the world cup. There is so much lag.Plaatinum wrote:
I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?
I second that. While spectating it just gives people sudden heart-attacks when you see players miss here and there. Even commentators seem to have a hard time deciding on who missed and which team is leading. This ruins the spectating experience more than you'd think.Athrun_Yamato wrote:
I've always questioned that in the world cup. There is so much lag.Plaatinum wrote:
I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?
It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.Riince wrote:
an osu dev playing in owc is so weird, it's like if Chris Metzen played at a blizzcon 3's tournament on WoW, or IronStylus being in an LCS team on LoL.Tom94 wrote:
Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p
Team Peppy when?
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
well commentators are a lot different than devs~Mr Color wrote:
It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
I also think USA have favoritism against Argentina, despite Argentina have good players (but USA at the moment have upper hand).silmarilen wrote:
im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
Austria
I LOL'D SO HARDEspecially with what the Queen said, I am so gonna get "clicked" and wake up rank 1,000,000
Nothing against your opinion or suggestions but they do talk about other mods and such, what do you watch? they also talk about osu!Academy and if you have lag issues with your stream, just fix your comcast internet or refresh. If players Disconnect during a match is their fault not the client lol. You should give more good feedback to the casters and management they are doing a great job so far, as best as they can.chainpullz wrote:
Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.
Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.
TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?jesus1412 wrote:
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What the fuck did you say about my copy pasting skills....Loctav wrote:
weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?jesus1412 wrote:
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Marcin wrote:
was he
can't find it in log.
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
-Soba- wrote:
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
Read the ruleset? Its all written there.fartownik wrote:
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
too bad alumetorz can't play due to a serbian festival, just like last year when we were against latvia, so rip austria for now hahaToGlette wrote:
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China![]()
and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK
Loctav wrote:
Read the ruleset? Its all written there.
You shouldnt worry about such stuff too much. Every match is scheduled and pool-assigned to the according round in the table. There are letters, there is a round name. There you have your assignment.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Loctav wrote:
Read the ruleset? Its all written there.
Read the posts?
The question was when it starts, not what it will look like. And I don't see any information about that in Stage Instructions. What we want to know is when and under which mappool (present or next) loser's bracket matches will be scheduled. It's for the losing teams to be informed as not to be suddenly surprised with "you're playing tomorrow at 9am" or similar info.
For a good reason though.. If you're gonna make stuff up on the fly as a staff member for the OWC just because you can't handle a joke, the OWC loses a lot of credibility.Athrun_Yamato wrote:
So much hate on Locatav in Australia vs Netherlands...
My god. Communism...fartownik wrote:
This is why I really liked last year's positioning of the tournament. It all went ever so smoothly.[ Joey ] wrote:
The way Loctav is acting is really cheapening the OWC imo
You're sentenced to a lifetime in jail.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Chill, please
This is probably going too far for what Loctav said. It's too intense. Probably really stressed today.AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
I don't know if you're having a bad day Loctav, but this time you committed a sin of power abuse.
You literally threatened Fuxvanes with 2h silence for saying "chill". This is far beyond the proper way of managing a tournament.
In this case I'm inclined to really say it
Chill, please
Thanks
There will be another one. Did this kind of thing happen last year? I don't recall it happening last year.-Kamikaze- wrote:
I'm expecting another wipeout in this thread soon
The chat was pretty retarded from my point of view, but those silences were dumb as well. You should be a bit more tolerant on jokes, honestly.
Also serious question: will that loser bracket thing be on rest of world cups as well?
it's twitch chat, what do you expect? it's just that the individuals modding the chat either weren't familiar with twitch as a platform or how to moderate larger channels. and ya, thread wipe inc-Kamikaze- wrote:
I'm expecting another wipeout in this thread soon
The chat was pretty retarded from my point of view, but those silences were dumb as well. You should be a bit more tolerant on jokes, honestly.
Then.. what has changed this year?-Kamikaze- wrote:
It was peaceful owc last year, so was mwc