Mr Color wrote:

17 solid hours of commentary later, I am left broken and voiceless

Can't wait to do that again next week!

xasuma wrote:

Being on the other end of the straw(spectator on twitch) I would like to inquire for someone to attempt and fix fake misses. I know it is "client lag", but there is got to be something someone can do about it.
This one thing is for me at least the most annoying one when watching owc. Hopefully for the next weekends coming, but if it's not possible that quickly, at least for next year. ty

fartownik wrote:

rEdo wrote:

What happened on Towa yori Towa ni that it was a 4v3?

Well played, nevertheless.

Astar's internet GG

Unsportmanship from Astar

http://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/2lrhrc/astar_wants_the_netherlands_to_lose/

Xhomas wrote:

I can't sympathize for him though:

Unsportmanship from Astar

http://www.reddit.com/r/osugame/comments/2lrhrc/astar_wants_the_netherlands_to_lose/

Loctav wrote:

It's not like he wasn't silenced, didn't vandalize the wiki and was on probation, tho

manjumochi wrote:

It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...

KRZY wrote:

Mixed feelings for this group stage.

Really proud of how the first-timers in the team performed, especially MathClass. K i R i K a R u has officially been promoted to the driver's seat of the bus that is the Korean team, and it's both impressive and happy to see a player who's been around forever finally making a name for himself as one of the best players in the world at the biggest stage of the game.

A bit disappointed with my own performance, for me it is fair to say I single-handedly threw away the Germany game with the miss on Bonfire and then the Terekakushi pick. Should have thought better. Overall I missed too many times on no-mod maps than I would have liked, but improvements will be made.

Had forgotten how fun this tournament is. Loving it at the moment.

Xytox wrote:

Well then... I hoped for a little bit more luck than that.

Xayne wrote:

xasuma wrote:

Being on the other end of the straw(spectator on twitch) I would like to inquire for someone to attempt and fix fake misses. I know it is "client lag", but there is got to be something someone can do about it.
This one thing is for me at least the most annoying one when watching owc. Hopefully for the next weekends coming, but if it's not possible that quickly, at least for next year. ty

I think this would be easily remedied by adding a bit of a delay on spectating matches. Add a 5-10 second delay to give time for the playback to buffer properly. It really is a shame to see a game that I think would have a lot of success as a spectator e-sport suffer from bad presentation.

Harrharrqi wrote:

Edit: more errors. USA beat UK 4-2, not 4-3. The Canadian and German flags are not showing in two instances.

Maybe, in order to fix these errors in the future, try double checking your work.

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

You guys still did pretty well. And in that match you wrote, "Onodera is love"

manjumochi wrote:

It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...
South Korea again gets bad luck and will play finals to the end if they advance.

Rea Himuro wrote:

I want to know if the knockout stage is going to be double elimination as it has been promised or it will only be a normal knockout?

Because based on the graph that has been posted on wiki, it seems to be just a normal knockout stage which is the same as the previous OWCs.

Tom94 wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

It just me or Germany gets the easier path to finals...
South Korea again gets bad luck and will play finals to the end if they advance.

Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p

Ethelon wrote:

Xayne wrote:

I think this would be easily remedied by adding a bit of a delay on spectating matches. Add a 5-10 second delay to give time for the playback to buffer properly. It really is a shame to see a game that I think would have a lot of success as a spectator e-sport suffer from bad presentation.

I was suggesting this as well.
Zallius said that spectators wouldn't like the delay. My personal opinion is that something like 5-10 seconds isn't a big deal and you don't even need to delay the mp data with a delay that small. The trade-off would be worth it (assuming that a similarly small amount of time would actually fix the issue).

Plaatinum wrote:

I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Plaatinum wrote:

I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?

I've always questioned that in the world cup. There is so much lag.

Riince wrote:

Tom94 wrote:

Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p

an osu dev playing in owc is so weird, it's like if Chris Metzen played at a blizzcon 3's tournament on WoW, or IronStylus being in an LCS team on LoL.

Team Peppy when?

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).

Mr Color wrote:

It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

silmarilen wrote:

im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

Austria

I LOL'D SO HARD

chainpullz wrote:

Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.

Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.

TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined

jesus1412 wrote:

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Loctav wrote:

jesus1412 wrote:

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weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?

Marcin wrote:

was he

can't find it in log.

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

manjumochi wrote:

Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

-Soba- wrote:

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?

fartownik wrote:

NaCulus wrote:

so, when will the loser bracket be held?

I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.

ToGlette wrote:

[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:

it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs

I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)

Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea

Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them

Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China

and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK

Loctav wrote:

Read the ruleset? Its all written there.

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Loctav wrote:

Read the ruleset? Its all written there.

Read the posts?

The question was when it starts, not what it will look like. And I don't see any information about that in Stage Instructions. What we want to know is when and under which mappool (present or next) loser's bracket matches will be scheduled. It's for the losing teams to be informed as not to be suddenly surprised with "you're playing tomorrow at 9am" or similar info.

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

So much hate on Locatav in Australia vs Netherlands...

fartownik wrote:

[ Joey ] wrote:

The way Loctav is acting is really cheapening the OWC imo

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

Chill, please

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

I don't know if you're having a bad day Loctav, but this time you committed a sin of power abuse.

You literally threatened Fuxvanes with 2h silence for saying "chill". This is far beyond the proper way of managing a tournament.


In this case I'm inclined to really say it

Chill, please



Thanks

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I'm expecting another wipeout in this thread soon
The chat was pretty retarded from my point of view, but those silences were dumb as well. You should be a bit more tolerant on jokes, honestly.
Also serious question: will that loser bracket thing be on rest of world cups as well?

-Kamikaze- wrote:

I'm expecting another wipeout in this thread soon
The chat was pretty retarded from my point of view, but those silences were dumb as well. You should be a bit more tolerant on jokes, honestly.

-Kamikaze- wrote:

It was peaceful owc last year, so was mwc

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Oh right, most of the players got banned from the tournament, that's what happened...

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Communism

xarathas wrote:

Athrun_Yamato wrote:

Communism

Please stop using that word if you clearly have no idea what it means, lol

fartownik wrote:

I expect this post to be deleted but whatever, at least so many people can see this.

Bauxe wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I expect this post to be deleted but whatever, at least so many people can see this.

OMG how rude of Netherlands not wishing Aus good luck!

Nashmun wrote:

And the twitch chat was being a huge cancer.

Nashmun wrote:

Same story every year. The same childs keep whining before the tournament even begin and keep whining until the tournament ends. yet they are still here every year, you threat every year but you never do anything. Just undertake your words, and don't play if you are unhappy, stop building unecessary drama everytime. If you think people can do whatever they want just because they are good players without facing any consequencies just make your own tournament where people can do whatever they like, say whatever they want and behave as diresrespectful and offensive as they want. The rules were clear from the beginning, if you don't agree with them just don't register...

And the twitch chat was being a huge cancer.

And by the way, you don't know what communism is, so stop spreading it like an insult or to imply you are facing a dictatorship. You also do not know what a dictatorship and your comparison is offensive and arrogant.

I'm just going to enjoy the rest of the matches from now and look forward to the other world cups when people are actually being civilized unlike here.

Synchrostar wrote:

you made us play at 11am, what did you expect lol