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osu! World Cup 2014 - Discussion Thread
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I suppose they forgot to add it.
Should be fixed soon (uploaded updated version, but it takes wiki to propagate changes.)
I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?
I've always questioned that in the world cup. There is so much lag.Plaatinum wrote:
I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?
I second that. While spectating it just gives people sudden heart-attacks when you see players miss here and there. Even commentators seem to have a hard time deciding on who missed and which team is leading. This ruins the spectating experience more than you'd think.Athrun_Yamato wrote:
I've always questioned that in the world cup. There is so much lag.Plaatinum wrote:
I'm just gonna put this out here in hope that anyone developing the tournament clients can see this. The one single thing that ruins the stream is the lag. There is always glitched misses or lag in every match. Is it possible if the client is delayed a couple minutes so everything can catch up and display the proper information instead?
you're acting as if that hasnt been discussed on the previous page
It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.Riince wrote:
an osu dev playing in owc is so weird, it's like if Chris Metzen played at a blizzcon 3's tournament on WoW, or IronStylus being in an LCS team on LoL.Tom94 wrote:
Not necessarily luck. The top team of a group gets to face the 2nd best team of another group which is common practice.
That being said time will tell whether this actually is the easier path. I sure don't know. :p
Team Peppy when?
And yeah it does seem like France and China get a horrible bracket, but they did have a relatively easy time through groups. Good luck to them.
And I hear everyone's complaints about the client lag, very sorry about it but I doubt we can do much about it. Spectating 8 people at once, some of them having rather unstable Internet connections, I'm already amazed it works. The only way to have it be more stable in my opinion would be to add a boatload of buffer time, which might not even really help if people's connections are slowing down.
Oh, also, good taste KRZY. Onodera a best.
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
well commentators are a lot different than devs~Mr Color wrote:
It really isn't. If you look at LoL, almost all of the commentators are retired pro-players. It makes a lot of sense to play the game you're devving so you can get a good grasp on what you need to work on.
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa
What about a 30-60 sec buffer time? This could be implemented in normal spectator mode as well, or just when spectating multiple people at once. THis should get rid of most of the lag. Yes crappy internet still will lag, but wouldnt it still help for most of the times? The fakes misses occur so often that no one ever knows when someone misses anymore.
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
I also think USA have favoritism against Argentina, despite Argentina have good players (but USA at the moment have upper hand).silmarilen wrote:
im not really sure how you could even think argentina to be better than usa
Sorry for my bad english
./happytime
All the players are really good, they are on RO16. They will do their best, and we will enjoy this with a stream without any lag
/happytime off
Go France, This year is for us ! ! !
All the players are really good, they are on RO16. They will do their best, and we will enjoy this with a stream without any lag
/happytime off
Go France, This year is for us ! ! !
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
Austria
I LOL'D SO HARDEspecially with what the Queen said, I am so gonna get "clicked" and wake up rank 1,000,000
Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.
Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.
TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.
TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
Nothing against your opinion or suggestions but they do talk about other mods and such, what do you watch? they also talk about osu!Academy and if you have lag issues with your stream, just fix your comcast internet or refresh. If players Disconnect during a match is their fault not the client lol. You should give more good feedback to the casters and management they are doing a great job so far, as best as they can.chainpullz wrote:
Have you considered streaming the matches off of replay files instead of streaming them live (would be like 5-10 minute delay) to cut down on some of the lag and client issues? It seems like most of the issues are caused by network jitter.
Also casters seem to be lost about what to talk about sometimes. I know casters for other games talk about things other than just the game just to keep people entertained. Game topics outside of OWC stuff would tie in nicely (such as opinions on ppv2.0, different mods, "how to get better", etc.). I definitely think there is more they could talk about as far as individual players (perhaps do some research on players and talk to them beforehand?). Also, if you say something about a player in one match, and they play in another match 8 hours later, it never hurts to repeat what you said. Not everyone watches from start to finish. Something just feels extremely lacking and I'm not sure the best way to put it into words so hopefully the above touches on it properly.
TL;DR network problems + casting feels unrefined
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weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?jesus1412 wrote:
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was he
can't find it in log.
can't find it in log.
What the fuck did you say about my copy pasting skills....Loctav wrote:
weren't you posting the exact lame speech in #commentary?jesus1412 wrote:
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I have over 300 confirmed successful copy+pastes.
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Marcin wrote:
was he
can't find it in log.
oh btw, wiki owners, notice that lesslunatic changed his username. o/
Can't edit the page myself, it's locked.
Can't edit the page myself, it's locked.
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffsmanjumochi wrote:
Well, it lags even in normal spectator mode (and with same problems), maybe this could be a hint to solve (or not, because of internet connections all over the world have a lot of variations, even good internet connection sometimes have lag).
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China
and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK
-Soba- wrote:
Wow, prepare yourself for us freedoming all over your silly predictions[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
I don't know but I smell a big drama.
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
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Read the ruleset? Its all written there.fartownik wrote:
I believe it starts next week. I think we haven't been given details because the staff is still figuring out how to do it most efficiently, because it really will be a cluster of matches and some weird delays when the Winner's Bracket is done.NaCulus wrote:
so, when will the loser bracket be held?
too bad alumetorz can't play due to a serbian festival, just like last year when we were against latvia, so rip austria for now hahaToGlette wrote:
[MY] yummy90 XP wrote:
it lags when you have over 10k clients connecting to osu! doing all sort of stuffs
I am guessing that these teams will make it to quarter finals based on history and statistic (basically nothing)
Germany, Netherlands, Taiwan, Austria, Argentina, Japan, Poland, South Korea
Hopefully I am wrong though, someone might hate me for jinxing them
Why South Korea? Shouldn't it be China
and goodbye jesse cuz Austria will rekt UK
Loctav wrote:
Read the ruleset? Its all written there.
Read the posts?
The question was when it starts, not what it will look like. And I don't see any information about that in Stage Instructions. What we want to know is when and under which mappool (present or next) loser's bracket matches will be scheduled. It's for the losing teams to be informed as not to be suddenly surprised with "you're playing tomorrow at 9am" or similar info.