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Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee

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Blatzk
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Blatzk
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 19. Juli 2010 at 18:26:27

Artist: Rise Against
Title: Prayer of the Refugee
Tags: Guitar Hero Aqua92
BPM: 150,5
Filesize: 3460kb
Play Time: 03:14
Difficulties Available:
  1. Aqua92's Prayer (4,93 stars, 535 notes)
  2. Easy (2,97 stars, 164 notes)
  3. Hard (4,91 stars, 481 notes)
  4. Normal (3,69 stars, 279 notes)
Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Well... 3rd try...
I loved that song in Guitar Hero 3... so i decided to map that one :)

Kubu's Insane Status:
*DELETED* (Cause he wished so!)

Finally ranked... even if it's without kubu's Insane now...
Here, for those who wanna try it unranked: kubu's Insane (This songs folder number is 11090)
Credits of SB quotes goes to Aqua92! :3

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Edit: Fixed an awful bug
Edit2: Added Easy, Modified Normal, Edited some hitsounds
Edit3: Fixed SB
Edit4: Gladi's timing fixes
Edit5: James2250's and Gladi's suggestions
Edit6: ShaggoN's suggestions
Edit7: Mukku's suggestions
Edit8: Took new mp3 and tried to cut it perfectly so i won't need timing changes
Edit9: Snapped Objects in Normal
Edit10: eee's suggestions
Edit11: KillerRind's suggestions
Edit12: Doomsday93's suggestions
Edit13: Nharox's suggestions
Edit14: Added Aqua92's Prayer and his stuff, some (SB-) edits
Edit15: SB edits, Some of Xero_HT's suggestions
Edit16: Rena-chan's suggestions
Edit17: Added kubu's Insane
Edit18: Beuchi-chan's suggestions
Edit19: Dangaard's 1st suggestions
Edit20: Dangaard's 2nd suggestions
Edit21: jockeytiyan's suggestions
Edit22: Added SB to kubu's Insane
Edit23: Larto's suggestions
Edit24: Matma_Rex's suggestions and deleted kubu's Insane
Edit25: blissfulyoshi's timing fixes
Edit26: ErufenRito's suggestions
Edit27: Starrodkirby86's suggestions
Edit28: Added kubu's Insane again cause he asked me to xD
Edit29: Starrodkirby86's 2nd suggestions (for kubu)
Edit30: Lybydose's suggestions (for kubu)
Edit31: Gens' Suggestions and moved SB into a separated folder
Edit32: RemmyX25's suggestions
Edit33: Shinxyn's suggestions and deleted kubu's Insane... again! >.<

Thx @ all for your support :3
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Paws_old
6 posts
Joined December 2008
Paws_old
I like it, it seems to be well done! :)
Fallen-Creed
20 posts
Joined June 2009
Fallen-Creed
You NEED to rethink some of that spacing, just played it (Normal) with CTB and it is impossible.
Fallen-Creed
20 posts
Joined June 2009
Fallen-Creed
However (Hard) has been done excelently.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
ohh shit... i see what you mean...
it was just like the slider were invisible in osu! Standard but in CTB it was like this...
i think it appeared after reupload... but thanks for noticing

Fallen-Creed
20 posts
Joined June 2009
Fallen-Creed
No problem, Rise against is one of my favourite bands. So I'll keep an eye on this beatmap for you. If I see anything, I'll tell you.

Star for you.
Kinaya
45 posts
Joined July 2009
Kinaya
Sternchen 4 you^^
Hanyuu
2,223 posts
Joined February 2009
Hanyuu

Kinaya wrote:

Sternchen 4 you^^
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
[General]
Let's do the offset/bpm fix~
First delete all timing sections you have, then replace it with this.
  1. 1. Offset 6.900 - BPM 150,30
  2. 2. Offset 19.640 - BPM 151,00
  3. 3. Offset 30.770 - BPM 196,05
  4. 4. Offset 53.345 - BPM 150,20
  5. 5. Offset 59.700 - BPM 150,60
  6. 6. Offset 72.440 - BPM 151,00
  7. 7. Offset 83.570 - BPM 196,05
  8. 8. Offset 154.140 - BPM 196,05
After you've fixed this, contact me and I'll mod the diff's ;)
Star for now~
Blatzk
141 posts
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Topic Starter
Blatzk

Gladi wrote:

After you've fixed this, contact me and I'll mod the diff's ;)
Star for now~
Wow... uhm... fixed!...?
*pokes Gladi*
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James2250
osu! Alumni
4,059 posts
Joined July 2008
James2250
Best song on guitar hero~
Put source/tags if possible

easy:
overall diff/hp drain slightly high for an easy

normal:
02:25:390 (3) - need to separate start/end point (and personally I don't think it looks nice)
03:07:804 - add notes here?

hard:
01:43:615 - break not really needed
02:10:088 (2) - wouldn't have it like this (repeat is hidden)
02:13:149 (9) - ^

*star*
GladiOol
4,475 posts
Joined August 2008
GladiOol
[General]
  1. Put in some tags!
[Hard]
  1. 00:03:374 (1,2,3) - Please delete this, it doesn't look nice and it doesn't play nice.
  2. 00:34:442 (x) - Add extra note here.
  3. 00:44:235 (x) - ^
  4. 00:50:968 (1) - Remove finish hit sound.
  5. 01:27:242 (x) - Add extra note here.
  6. 01:37:035 (x) - ^
  7. 01:44:534 (2) - Remove this hit circle.
  8. 02:25:390 (1) - Remove finish hit sound.
  9. 02:37:812 (x) - Add extra note here.
  10. 02:47:605 (x) - ^
[Normal]
  1. Decrease Overall Difficulty by two.
  2. 00:34:136 (4) - Add reverse arrow.
  3. 00:43:929 (4) - ^
  4. 00:50:968 (1) - Remove finish hitsound.
  5. 01:26:936 (4) - Add reverse arrow.
  6. 01:36:729 (4) - ^
  7. 02:25:390 (3) - This isn't a really pretty slider, please shape it diffrently.
  8. 02:37:659 (5) - Make slider start 1/2 later, and add a hit circle on it. Like this.
  9. 02:47:452 (5) - ^
[Easy]
  1. Decrease Overall Difficulty by two, and Drain Rate by one.
  2. 00:34:136 (4,5) - Just like in Normal and Hard, fix this by adding an extra note in between.
  3. 00:43:929 (4,5) - ^
  4. 00:50:968 (1) - Remove finish hitsound.
  5. 01:26:936 (3) - Add reverse arrow.
  6. 01:36:729 (3) - ^
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Blub...
Fixed both suggestions... and added Tag
thx for modding :3
Leimilia
22 posts
Joined October 2008
Leimilia
gonna star it for you :P
EEeee
1,026 posts
Joined July 2008
EEeee
*star
nice map, couldn't find anything wrong >O<
ShaggoN
689 posts
Joined September 2008
ShaggoN
Blue: Sugestion. Not necessary, but should take good effects.
Green: Notification or cosmetic thing. May, but don't have to be changed.
Orange: Should be fixed.
Red: Have to be fixed.

[Easy]
Perfect :)

[Normal]
  1. 02:14:679 (5-8) - This formation is too much confusing on Normal, but it's only my opinion.
[Hard]
Perfect :)

Pure awesomeness. Starrr'd :D
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Perfect now? xD
ShaggoN
689 posts
Joined September 2008
ShaggoN
No. I forgot one thing. Give You a kudos star ;)
Mukku
1,434 posts
Joined February 2009
Mukku
Hiai


Easy~
Great

Normal~
01:43:156 (5) - You could remove the distance snap to make the gap between this slider and 4 same as all the previous notes in this combo. Moving it in grid snap wouldn't work becouse the gap between 5 and 3 would be different than in 1 - 3 or 2 - 4.
02:07:028 (3,4) - Move 1 grid down in the most precise grid snap (level 3).

Hard~
00:08:896 (8) - Remove grid snap to make the gap smaller. Compare to 6 - 7 for example.
00:39:033 (3) - This note is fine but I think it would be better to use grid snap for it. Move to the same height as the next combo's 1, 2, 3, 4
01:08:265 (1,2,3) - Spacing



Yeah only spacing issues found. Great maps o/
Blatzk
141 posts
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Topic Starter
Blatzk
thaaaank youuuu :>
Mashley
2,042 posts
Joined September 2008
Mashley
Aaaaaaargh your mp3 makes me sick. Use this mp3, and consider begging Rolled to finish his difficulty. ;)

Download: Rise Against - Prayers of the Refugee.mp3
H1ko
367 posts
Joined December 2008
H1ko
heyyyyyy yaaaaaaaaaa starrrrrrrr
penaxo
36 posts
Joined August 2009
penaxo
lov this beatmap great uuuujo 1 star xDD
eee
692 posts
Joined January 2008
eee
eeemod GO!!!

I can't find much, do what you will.

[Normal]
01:43:156 (5) - add a reverse arrow to this
02:29:981 (1) - delete this and add a break (?) so it'll be like [Hard]

good map, not great, but it's good, nicely done. song is awesome too ;)
Luneko
842 posts
Joined June 2009
Luneko
Hai ^^

[Easy]
00:25:997 - Remove spinner and map spinner + break?
01:07:668 (5,6) - Replace wit a spinner?
01:43:768 - End Spinner here?

[Normal]
00:13:486 - Add note?
01:38:260 (1) - 1 Grid down ^^
if ^ then 01:40:708 (1) - 1 Grid down
02:25:390 (3) - Spinner? Slider looks ugly D:
02:54:951 (4) - looks ugly ):
02:59:847 (4) - looks ugly <.<'

[Hard]
00:50:662 (6) - Move left to (5) like the others
Nice!

Sternchen ;)
Doomsday
Featured Artist
1,961 posts
Joined July 2008
Doomsday
Lets go


Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these, but you may be able to get away with not changing it
Red = major issues. you need to change these

  1. Timing looks good. I'm a little wary about the one at 00:06:900 but after double checking it it seemed fine, so I guess it works.[/color]
  2. You could use a better MP3. the one you have doesn't sound great.
  3. No source. Is there an album name you could put here?
  4. When the BPM changed for the chorus, it feels jarring when it comes in. Thats the songs fault though, so that can't be helped :P
[EASY]

01:08:464 (1) - This sounds better when moved 1/2 forward to me
02:16:209 (1) - This might be a little close to that spinner for an easy. Maybe you could delete this beat, and make the spinner a whole beat longer.

[NORMAL]

Looks good

[HARD]

'tis fine

Not bad. The map didn't blow my mind but its solid. I quite liked those Storyboarded arrows. I like little things like that :)

Starred
Blatzk
141 posts
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Topic Starter
Blatzk
Fixed 'dat all
thx @ all :D
Doomsday
Featured Artist
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Joined July 2008
Doomsday
Did you say you added the new MP3? If so, I haven't got it. do a full resubmit with the new MP3. That should fix it.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Ahh right xD
Just replaced my mp3...
Oh jeez... noo...
That's why everyone said that timing was ok even with the new mp3... o.o
They all downloaded the map with the old mp3 -.-

ok then... now someone go for timing checks pls...
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Doomsday
Featured Artist
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Doomsday
I checked the timing, and by the looks of things you don't need to do anything with the timing. It fits fine with the new MP3. All lights are green here.

Protobubbled
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua
W00T! Rise Against!

Pls let me do a Difficult ! Pls :(

RA - my absolute favourite band :)
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

Aqua92 wrote:

Pls let me do a Difficult ! Pls :(
Well... From my side... Sure, why not ^^
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Nharox
884 posts
Joined February 2008
Nharox
A bit IRC modding, maps are fine. ;)
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua
Soo bin fertig.

Bitte (wenns geht) alles uppen :)

Mit dem diff namen bin ich mir noch net sicher....
Und auch bissl bugged an manchen stellen :/

Aber naja^^

Da:
Download: 11090 Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee.rar


Kleines EDIT:
Falls du meine diff übernimmst, könntest du bitte dein sb diff spezifisch machen?^^
das mischt sich mit meinem >.<
-Xero-
526 posts
Joined October 2009
-Xero-
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua

Xero_HT wrote:

[Aqua's]
Was Combos angeht bin ich mir echt nicht sicher.. Bin ja auch noch neu im Modden ^^
Du hast dir sicher Mühe mit dem SB gemacht, aber das pulsierende RA Logo geht gar nich sorry. Das lenkt zu sehr ab.
Die Zitate sind aber cool =).
Soo schlimm find ichs garnet^^ Man darf sich halt nur nicht ablenken lassen.
Und ausserdem: Gibt schlimmeres ;) Siehe Happy-Diffs :P
Ich find das kann bleiben
-Xero-
526 posts
Joined October 2009
-Xero-
Wenn du meinst. Aber so ein SB kann das ranken verhindern...
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Well...
I can't agree with you in some points, Xero_HT... This mod wasn't really helpful imo
Changed some points... but not much
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soulfear
947 posts
Joined January 2010
soulfear
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
amara_rox
2 posts
Joined June 2009
amara_rox
WOOTZOR.
:DD
Your god accepts,
Rena-chan
Rena-chan
>Easy
Seems fine to me, if anything you should raise OD by one tick..

>Normal
03:12:089 (1,1,1,1) - Stack the startpoints of these.
Also, raise OD by one tick. Some parts are pretty hard to read like this.

>Aqua92's Prayer
00:50:050 (1) - Stack on the end of the slider.
01:21:750 (5,6) - Align horizontally with the slider.
01:27:548 (6,8) - Stack on end of the slider, move 01:27:854 (7) - accordingly.
01:30:302 (1) - Stack end on 01:29:384 (3) -
01:34:893 (6) - Stack on end of the slider.
01:37:648 (8,9) - Align vertically with the end of the slider.
01:44:381 (3) - ^
03:00:765 (7,8,9) - Place so (8) is stacked on the end of the slider.
03:12:395 (1,2,3,4) - Stack on end of the slider.
Also, raise OD one tick.

>Hard
00:43:011 (1) - Align like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3749
01:24:780 (4) - Stack end on (3)
01:34:573 (4) - ^
02:51:890 (2) - Stack on the beginning of (1)


>Easy, Normal, Hard
Disable letterboxing during breaks. It looks stupid.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Ok... Fixed everything. Thx for your help :>
Kubu
555 posts
Joined August 2008
Kubu
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
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Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
Joined February 2009
Beuchi
Hi hi! :)

Some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree :P
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Easy and Normal have a very similar difficulty modifiers, also Easy is way too hard for an Easy map :(
- Make combocolours be the same on all diffs.
- Text lines on the SB dissapear too suddenly, fade them.
- You need to change offset, some diffs start before the first timing section... I can't seem to find one good offset for it, sorry :(
- Add kuburaczek to Tags.

~Easy~
- This is too hard for an Easy... but if you increase circle size it becomes so hard to see... :/
- Maybe consider to delete some circles or short sliders or make spacing more readable, there are no more problems though...

~Normal~
02:22:330 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wow, this is like a stream, too hard for a Normal imo ._.'

~Hard~
- I don't like those spaced streams... :/

00:10:275 (4) - Make a SB warning for this? It's hard to see and the reverse arrow is kind of hidden :/
00:19:642 (7) - Spacing (nazi! D:!)

~Aqua92's Prayer~
- Why the SB has another image just on this diff? o.O Also, this image becomes so annoying on some parts (specially at the end)
- There is a New Combo inconsistency... there are so short combos and so long combos, consider balance them.

02:06:110 (17) - Make a SB warning for this.
02:35:364 (4) - ^
02:36:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Wtf o_o'
02:40:260 (5,6,7,8,9) - Same o_o'
03:01:377 (10) - Hidden reverse arrow, change this please.

~kubu's Insane~
- Oh my it seems like the circles are going to eat you if you play this right after Aqua's diff xDD. Buuut big hitcircles ftw <3
- Overall Difficulty it's a bit high imo oxo.
- This diff is... too crazy :/ but Miku no shoushitsu is ranked so go ahead :<

00:40:869 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - OMG...
00:42:399 (1,2,3) - Decrease spacing please this is too much.
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know what to say about this... (2,3) are almost hidden :/
01:35:338 (1,2,3,4) - Decrease spacing please this is too much.
01:41:000 (1,1) - I think these sliders (were those called burai sliders?) are unrankable... oxo
01:43:142 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - OMG x_x
01:51:712 (2) - Needs an SB warning, you can't tell where is this going.
02:11:298 (1) - Same as before, I'm sure this is unrankable :/
02:19:868 (1,2,3,4) - Space them a bit more, they're almost hidden.
From 02:34:140 to 02:54:951 - Seriously... wtf is this spacing xD

Good luck with this ^_^ *star*
Nachy
807 posts
Joined April 2009
Nachy
Awesome.
Noobita
597 posts
Joined June 2009
Noobita
Star :) beautiful map
Dangaard
osu! Alumni
1,232 posts
Joined July 2008
Dangaard
[general]
You should add the guest mapper's names to all diffs (or at least to the corresponding diff).
Those SB warnings *facepalm*, they are pretty nice, though I really don't like this stuff cause it doesn't really help, it says there is a speed up in the next few seconds but you still can't really tell when, you just get more confused and distracted afterwards. But for some reason some people always request those. Imo it's useless and ugly...
:|

[Easy]
You got some return sliders at the end with different return cout which makes is kinda hard to predict when they are ending. Since it's an Easy diff, this should be mentioned, new players might not be able play this well.

[Normal]
02:54:951 (4) - You got an SB arrow, but still you can't tell which way this slider is going before it's too late.

[Hard]
00:10:275 (4) - the return arrows are well hidden
02:52:502 (1) - The SB arrow is really not needed here imo, this is not even hard to read

[Aqua]
New combo settings are weird here: There are random 1-beat-combos and other stuff making your combos look kinda random. Also the color setting is different from the other diffs and don't fit the Guitar Hero colors.

[kubu]
New combo settings are quite weird here as well, appear pretty random on some parts.

00:30:668 (7,8) - sounds wrong, that's not how the drums go in the song
01:11:635 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - triplet should be on (1) to (2) if you follow the drums
01:33:655 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - might be hard readable
01:41:000 (1,1) - this kind of return slider is unrankable
01:51:712 (2) - you can't tell which way this goes
02:11:298 (1) - unrankable return slider again

The end is pretty much overmapped and very hard to read, I don't bother going into detail, just want to let you know that there are different ways to make a map fun ( In case you consider overmapping as fun)


Ah well, pretty nice map, only the 2 guest diffs had quite some problems.
fumoffu star :3

EDIT:
I think there are some unused files in your folder
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Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua

Dangaard wrote:

[Aqua]
New combo settings are weird here: There are random 1-beat-combos and other stuff making your combos look kinda random. Also the color setting is different from the other diffs and don't fit the Guitar Hero colors.
Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

Aqua92 wrote:

Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o
Uhm... because my combo colors are?
Plus this song was in Guitar Hero 3 (that's why i made the colors like this)
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua

bLaTzK wrote:

Aqua92 wrote:

Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o
Uhm... because my combo colors are?
Plus this song was in Guitar Hero 3 (that's why i made the colors like this)
Ah okay, sry :P

Than change it of course ^^
Kubu
555 posts
Joined August 2008
Kubu
xd

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

Dangaard wrote:

[general]
Those SB warnings *facepalm*, they are pretty nice, though I really don't like this stuff cause it doesn't really help, it says there is a speed up in the next few seconds but you still can't really tell when, you just get more confused and distracted afterwards. But for some reason some people always request those. Imo it's useless and ugly...
:|
Yep... I also think that it doesn't help much but if they want to have... fine with me

But anyway.. Fixed Dangaard's suggestions... thx :)
Dangaard
osu! Alumni
1,232 posts
Joined July 2008
Dangaard
[general]
ra.png is not used anywhere I think (the black pic)
hitcircle.png got some dots above the actual circle, you should remove them
I was told that Source is not the place for album names, maybe you like to remove them

[Easy]
02:13:761 (1) - 1/1 longer

[Normal]
02:25:390 (1) - finish instead of whistle sound (or no hitsound like in [Hard], but [Easy] got a finish there)
02:54:951 (4) - this slider still is confusing

[kubu]
02:41:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you can't tell if the 2nd slider might be the (2) already
03:09:335 (8) - this slider got a similar problem
they might be rankable, don't know, but pretty confusing
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

Dangaard wrote:

[general]
ra.png is not used anywhere I think (the black pic)
hitcircle.png got some dots above the actual circle, you should remove them
I was told that Source is not the place for album names, maybe you like to remove them
ok...
1) wow... i missed that one... sry - deleted and new full submission
2) lol, how did you see this? :o... anyway - removed
3) Removed the sauce source in very dif

changed the rest too (except for kubu's dif cause he doesn't want the change)
but thx again ^^
Dangaard
osu! Alumni
1,232 posts
Joined July 2008
Dangaard
ok last thing:

[kubu]
01:12:431 - overlapping time sections ( seems like the green one can be deleted)
jockeytiyan
1,269 posts
Joined July 2009
jockeytiyan
Master Lelouch! Sorry for the late mod post. I kinda got into trouble before I got myself into it. lol

Easy:
SPOILER
General: This is too much from me, but I'd really suggest a slider tick rate of 2. orz

01:23:876 (1,2,3,4) - Just pointing these one out. The sudden change in timing made it unpredictable. Newbies might not play this part well.
01:26:936 (3) - I recommend mapping the part after this. It seems to abrupt to end it there all of a sudden then have notes again after it.
01:36:729 (3) - ^
01:55:092 (1) - The diff can end here. But continuing it is a good idea too. Just pointing out.
02:25:084 (4) - Suggestion: Extend to one more tick, and relocate the spinner after it. You can also silence the slider's end but it sounds better unsilenced, IMO.


Normal:
SPOILER
00:31:076 (1,2,3,4) - The same one as the first mod in Easy.
01:23:876 (1,2,3,4) - ^
02:25:237 (2,1) - The spinner's beginning sounded abrupt too. I suggest placing a beat on where the spinner starts and relocate the spinner, but meh.

Hard:
SPOILER
General: The OD was ok at first. However, I tried test-playing it and it looked a bit harder than I expected. I will not suggest decreasing the OD, but I might as well point it out so you can be open for it.


Aqua92's Prayer:
SPOILER
General: Wow, this diff lacks hitsounds but is standing out pretty well. I could suggest hitsounding it more often but you can leave it as it is.

00:31:076 (1,2,3) - I really don't see much point in silencing these 3.
01:32:139 (1) - Just noticed the smaller spacing with reference to the preceding beats.
02:34:446 (2,3,4) - Same as 00:31:076.
02:44:239 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing is a bit unpredictable.


kubu's Insane:
SPOILER
00:13:468 (3) - New combo here and remove new combo here 00:13:868 (1) -
00:16:263 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:15:065 (1) - ^
00:21:032 (5) - Wee bit spacing problem but is a pretty significant distance that might confuse players.
<I can't mod the speed-up part.>
00:21:032 (5,1,1,2,1) - Make these into only one combo. >.>
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - Just pointing out. The sliders after each other are blocking up the view of the player, which can confuse them as to when the slider will end.
01:55:078 (1) - Remove new combo.
Shinde
osu! Alumni
707 posts
Joined April 2009
Shinde
Kubu's is very fun to me. I can't mod it right now but I just wanted to say that. I've only played Aqua's and Hard like once, though I wonder, why does the SB not appear in Kubu's? I might have to re-dl, but I thought I got this after the 23rd change and the images are still there.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

Shinde wrote:

Kubu's is very fun to me. I can't mod it right now but I just wanted to say that. I've only played Aqua's and Hard like once, though I wonder, why does the SB not appear in Kubu's? I might have to re-dl, but I thought I got this after the 23rd change and the images are still there.
Uhhh... right... forgot about that
If kubu accepts, i'll add SB
Kubu
555 posts
Joined August 2008
Kubu
sure ^^
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

bLaTzK wrote:

If kubu accepts, i'll add SB

kuburaczek wrote:

sure ^^
So I added SB
Larto
4,128 posts
Joined June 2008
Larto
Overall:
- Get someone to thoroughly check the timing.

Storyboard:
03:04:744 - I suggest doubling the speed of the strobe starting from here.


Kubu:
- The chorusses are totally overmapped. Like, seriously. SERIOUSLY ;_;.
- Switching from sliders to circles to sliders to circles in streams does NEVER work well. Stuff like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4307 Just does not play well at all, it doesn't even sync the song :(
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
00:15:864 (1) - The first time I played the diff I could hardly see that this is a slider, because it was hidden. Fix please.
00:22:224 (1) - Doesn't quite sync anything in the song
00:27:986 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This feels a bit empty. Doesn't really sync the song.
00:40:945 (1) - Random new combo?!
01:05:667 (1) - This slider really doesn't look pretty and doesn't quite work.
01:11:834 (3,4,5,6) - Those notes are so close to each other... really, compare it to the rest of the map :|
01:18:580 (2,3) - Derp spacing. I can see how this is supposed to work, but it doesn't play that well to me anyways. Fix or not, up to you.
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - Uuuh.... No, not quite. This could be prettier and better to play.
01:29:064 (3,4,5) - Unfitting jump much.
01:33:731 (1) - Return of the Random New Combo!
01:35:797 (4,1) - The sudden spacing change from "SUPER HUGE" to "average jump" does NOT WORK. A New Combo doesn't justify it either.
01:40:694 (6,1) - ^
01:41:459 (1) - Random stupid New Combo #3, Also this slider doesn't sync the song.
01:44:290 (16,1) - A 1/4 jump? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? NO THIS DOES NOT WORK GET OUT
01:55:843 (2,3,4) - Spacing. It kind of sort of worked while playing though, fix it or not.
01:59:975 (1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:11:298 (1) - All the sliders before had 3 repeats each, this one only has 1. Does not play well at all.
02:11:757 (1) - Remove New Combo?
02:34:140 (1,1,1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:41:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can't read this to save my life.
02:44:315 (1) - Random new combo again
02:44:239 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
02:47:911 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - I can't read this to save my life. Also the New Combos are dumb.
02:50:360 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - I CAN read this but this is just retarded
02:51:584 (1,1,1) - Maybe remove those new combos.
02:54:032 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
03:04:744 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No. No. Noooooooooooo WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY THIS DOES NOT PLAY WELL COME ON. I CAN HARDLY READ THAT

Aqua92 wrote:

Hell...
Seriously, whats the Point of Creating such Difficulties? :cry:

They destroy really wonderful songs like this one =(

This map is what I'd call "Full of artificial difficulty". Yes, this song justifies being difficult. But random jumps? Random spacing changes? Random EVERYTHING?
All of you know me, I'm not a nazi modder. I let things pass at times. But this? This is just bullshit :|
I highly suggest removing or remapping this difficulty.

00:50:993 (1) - oh and this is not snapped


Aqua:
00:00:494 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't suggest mapping this part, The hitsounds sound bad right now since Soft sample would be more appropiate and the timing is most likely wrong.
01:38:260 (1) - Random spinner ?_?
02:11:312 (1) - ^?
02:37:506 (6,7,8) - Spacing a bit ugly and inconsistant. Move 7 a bit to the left to fix that.
02:42:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistant spacing jump? =P It's not bad, fixing it or not is up to you.
02:47:605 (8,9,10) - ewww spacing
02:51:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Patterns like this rarely play well, on maps with a fast BPM they usually never do.
03:04:744 - If you put another kiai section here, at least let it stay =P
03:07:804 (1) - Weird new combo
03:13:619 (1) - Hidden Repeat :

Hard:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
01:17:590 (2,4) - Ew overlap =( It's rankable though.
01:20:759 (8,9) - Ew overlap =( It's still rankable, but here it's even worse.
01:53:854 (4) - I love that arrow.
02:52:579 - Lol, I don't think that arrow is needed. And if you really wanna keep it here,

Normal:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
02:17:127 (5,6) - I suggest removing one of the repeats from each of these sliders
02:19:576 (5,6) - ^
03:12:089 (1,1,1,1) - The New Combos here aren't pretty. Remove if you agree.

Easy:
00:39:339 (1) - Remove New Combo maybe.
00:40:869 (1,2) - I don't quite like how this is so close to the last slider.
01:31:221 (2) - Í suggest removing one of the repeats and replacing it with a hitcircle.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it
Kubu
555 posts
Joined August 2008
Kubu

bLaTzK wrote:

Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it
Dont worry, i fixed majority of this tomorrow, cuz today dont have much time D:

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
ok... removed that dif (kubu's Insane) that Larto loved soo much
Matma Rex
586 posts
Joined March 2009
Matma Rex
Star and some minor IRC mods.
Mismagius
9,331 posts
Joined July 2008
Mismagius
Kubu's diff is the better :(
Dotsu
996 posts
Joined March 2009
Dotsu
Good map!
~star~
yaya
osu! Alumni
1,164 posts
Joined November 2008
yaya
ah it's so noisy , sorry :o
btw , all aqua92's diff with box placement :(
Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua

yaya wrote:

ah it's so noisy , sorry :o
btw , all aqua92's diff with box placement :(
Box Placement?
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.

Aqua
298 posts
Joined December 2008
Aqua

bLaTzK wrote:

Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.
Lolz... Whoops :D
KIA
1,754 posts
Joined February 2009
KIA
:O It's Rise Against
Keksi
987 posts
Joined April 2009
Keksi
Hmm

Nice Map
Henkie
728 posts
Joined July 2008
Henkie
<3

Star.
thr1ve
80 posts
Joined December 2008
thr1ve
Great map! Very fun to play ^_^
Woshiwobi
12 posts
Joined January 2009
Woshiwobi
highly synchronized :D is fun to play
deepsea
osu! Alumni
855 posts
Joined April 2008
deepsea
Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.

Have a teletubby star.
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

deepsea wrote:

Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.
Well... heard that a lot of times and all told me to get in that timing help queue and it is... awp posted it there for me on Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:15 pm... but i don't know if that queue is still in use... Here's that link but it's a post by awp for me ^^
viewtopic.php?p=297515#p297515
But thx for your star :)
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blissfulyoshi
osu! Alumni
4,755 posts
Joined July 2008
blissfulyoshi
Timing check: (I just tried fine tuning the timing a bit since the previous timing was pretty close. Apply what you think feels better)
BPM:150.500 Offset: 6,882
BPM:151.100 Offset:19,630
BPM:196.000 Offset:30,754
BPM:148.500 Offset:53,917
BPM:151.000 Offset:58,906
BPM:196.000 Offset:83,540
BPM:196.000 Offset:154,130

Good luck on ranking this song. Remember to apply this timing to all diffs (the osu! circle pulsates at the BPM you set, so make sure the easiest diff has the extra uninherited timing section) and resnap all the notes.

Edit:
Here is the form you can copy into the .osu file.
6882,398.671096345515,4,1,0,70,1,0
19630,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
30754,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
53917,404.040404040404,4,1,0,70,1,0
58906,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
83540,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
154130,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
jockeytiyan
1,269 posts
Joined July 2009
jockeytiyan
I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
soulfear
947 posts
Joined January 2010
soulfear
I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk

jockeytiyan wrote:

I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
uhh... "Rise Against" and "Rage against the Machine"... you just told me a combination of both ^^
I think they are two different bands or am i wrong?

soulfear wrote:

I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
well... just depends on BATs... if they stop ignoring me it maybe gets ranked someday >.<
Luvdic
2,113 posts
Joined July 2009
Luvdic
General:

- The aproach circle is weird... It makes me feels dizzy for some reason ahahaha

Easy:

Consider adding a circle here 00:32:590, 00:42:386, 01:25:376, 01:30:274, 01:40:070 - etc, i hope you get what i mean.
00:49:121 (1) - Consider adding one extra repeat so it would end at 00:50:958. If youre going to do it, you will obviously have to move the spinner and shorten it a bit
01:26:907 (3) - Extend it so it would end at 01:27:213
01:36:703 (3) - ^

Normal:

I just think that there are parts that are a bit too confusive... I aint mentioning them cause it doesnt worth it. (btw, i partly blame it due to low distance spacing that makes them all clustered, oh and also these clustered things... they doesnt looks good in my opinion >_>)


Hard:

01:53:846 (4) - This 2x slider is kinda pointless.

Aqua92:

Nothing to say

And remember, they are just suggestions/comments from me,
Starrodkirby86
osu! Alumni
3,739 posts
Here since the beginning
Starrodkirby86
[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?

[Easy]:
Why is there no pulsing storyboard on Easy? You can always put all the pulses except for the one on the last chorus in the .osb, then just make a new object for the pulse on the last chorus. XD

[Normal]:
01:20:958 (3) - This break seems random. xD

[Hard]:
Wow, that is one cool Speed-up warning.

[Aqua92's Prayer]:
00:41:162 (3) - Haha, lonely whistle. :V

Uhh...This is a bit nazi but, can you crop the hitcircle.png to make it 128x128? Thanks!
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
ok... fixed that... thaaaaank you :3

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?
well... it just doesn't work in [Hard] because there are notes before 00:59:700 and they need this timing.
FrozenOG
416 posts
Joined October 2009
FrozenOG
hey! i made a difficulty, im sorry if if might need a little work, but you know what they say: no map is a perfect map!

here it is (dont nag me about not having it on a forum and blah blah): http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ghakj
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
what the... i never asked you to make one o.o
no new difs here... it would take another 2 month with modding... so no, thx >.<
but thx for that star
KRZY
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
4,848 posts
Joined May 2009
KRZY
I'm not skilled enough to mod, but I definitely want this song ranked as soon as possible. This is my favorite song by far. If I had any kudoses I would use all of them on this song.

Star!
Kotya
713 posts
Joined March 2010
Kotya
I love this map
star ^^
Blatzk
141 posts
Joined August 2008
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Kubu edited his Insane. It had no hitsounds so i added them by myself.
Should be checked by BAT if it's rankable...
If yes I'll add it again. If not, it should gets separated cause it's so awesome ^^
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Andrea
Beatmap Nominator
16,650 posts
Joined August 2008
Andrea
This difficulty is really fun and challenging but it have a lot of unrankable things, like some hidden sliders and some "WTF" parts with strange spacings...

Try to get other opinions, but IMHO that difficulty is for approval only XD
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