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Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee

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Larto
Overall:
- Get someone to thoroughly check the timing.

Storyboard:
03:04:744 - I suggest doubling the speed of the strobe starting from here.


Kubu:
- The chorusses are totally overmapped. Like, seriously. SERIOUSLY ;_;.
- Switching from sliders to circles to sliders to circles in streams does NEVER work well. Stuff like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4307 Just does not play well at all, it doesn't even sync the song :(
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
00:15:864 (1) - The first time I played the diff I could hardly see that this is a slider, because it was hidden. Fix please.
00:22:224 (1) - Doesn't quite sync anything in the song
00:27:986 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This feels a bit empty. Doesn't really sync the song.
00:40:945 (1) - Random new combo?!
01:05:667 (1) - This slider really doesn't look pretty and doesn't quite work.
01:11:834 (3,4,5,6) - Those notes are so close to each other... really, compare it to the rest of the map :|
01:18:580 (2,3) - Derp spacing. I can see how this is supposed to work, but it doesn't play that well to me anyways. Fix or not, up to you.
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - Uuuh.... No, not quite. This could be prettier and better to play.
01:29:064 (3,4,5) - Unfitting jump much.
01:33:731 (1) - Return of the Random New Combo!
01:35:797 (4,1) - The sudden spacing change from "SUPER HUGE" to "average jump" does NOT WORK. A New Combo doesn't justify it either.
01:40:694 (6,1) - ^
01:41:459 (1) - Random stupid New Combo #3, Also this slider doesn't sync the song.
01:44:290 (16,1) - A 1/4 jump? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? NO THIS DOES NOT WORK GET OUT
01:55:843 (2,3,4) - Spacing. It kind of sort of worked while playing though, fix it or not.
01:59:975 (1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:11:298 (1) - All the sliders before had 3 repeats each, this one only has 1. Does not play well at all.
02:11:757 (1) - Remove New Combo?
02:34:140 (1,1,1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:41:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can't read this to save my life.
02:44:315 (1) - Random new combo again
02:44:239 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
02:47:911 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - I can't read this to save my life. Also the New Combos are dumb.
02:50:360 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - I CAN read this but this is just retarded
02:51:584 (1,1,1) - Maybe remove those new combos.
02:54:032 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
03:04:744 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No. No. Noooooooooooo WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY THIS DOES NOT PLAY WELL COME ON. I CAN HARDLY READ THAT

Aqua92 wrote:

Hell...
Seriously, whats the Point of Creating such Difficulties? :cry:

They destroy really wonderful songs like this one =(

This map is what I'd call "Full of artificial difficulty". Yes, this song justifies being difficult. But random jumps? Random spacing changes? Random EVERYTHING?
All of you know me, I'm not a nazi modder. I let things pass at times. But this? This is just bullshit :|
I highly suggest removing or remapping this difficulty.

00:50:993 (1) - oh and this is not snapped


Aqua:
00:00:494 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't suggest mapping this part, The hitsounds sound bad right now since Soft sample would be more appropiate and the timing is most likely wrong.
01:38:260 (1) - Random spinner ?_?
02:11:312 (1) - ^?
02:37:506 (6,7,8) - Spacing a bit ugly and inconsistant. Move 7 a bit to the left to fix that.
02:42:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistant spacing jump? =P It's not bad, fixing it or not is up to you.
02:47:605 (8,9,10) - ewww spacing
02:51:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Patterns like this rarely play well, on maps with a fast BPM they usually never do.
03:04:744 - If you put another kiai section here, at least let it stay =P
03:07:804 (1) - Weird new combo
03:13:619 (1) - Hidden Repeat :

Hard:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
01:17:590 (2,4) - Ew overlap =( It's rankable though.
01:20:759 (8,9) - Ew overlap =( It's still rankable, but here it's even worse.
01:53:854 (4) - I love that arrow.
02:52:579 - Lol, I don't think that arrow is needed. And if you really wanna keep it here,

Normal:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
02:17:127 (5,6) - I suggest removing one of the repeats from each of these sliders
02:19:576 (5,6) - ^
03:12:089 (1,1,1,1) - The New Combos here aren't pretty. Remove if you agree.

Easy:
00:39:339 (1) - Remove New Combo maybe.
00:40:869 (1,2) - I don't quite like how this is so close to the last slider.
01:31:221 (2) - Í suggest removing one of the repeats and replacing it with a hitcircle.
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it
Kubu

bLaTzK wrote:

Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it
Dont worry, i fixed majority of this tomorrow, cuz today dont have much time D:

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu
Topic Starter
Blatzk
ok... removed that dif (kubu's Insane) that Larto loved soo much
Matma Rex
Star and some minor IRC mods.
Mismagius
Kubu's diff is the better :(
Dotsu
Good map!
~star~
yaya
ah it's so noisy , sorry :o
btw , all aqua92's diff with box placement :(
Aqua

yaya wrote:

ah it's so noisy , sorry :o
btw , all aqua92's diff with box placement :(
Box Placement?
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.

Aqua

bLaTzK wrote:

Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.
Lolz... Whoops :D
KIA
:O It's Rise Against
Keksi
Hmm

Nice Map
Henkie
<3

Star.
thr1ve
Great map! Very fun to play ^_^
Woshiwobi
highly synchronized :D is fun to play
deepsea
Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.

Have a teletubby star.
Topic Starter
Blatzk

deepsea wrote:

Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.
Well... heard that a lot of times and all told me to get in that timing help queue and it is... awp posted it there for me on Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:15 pm... but i don't know if that queue is still in use... Here's that link but it's a post by awp for me ^^
viewtopic.php?p=297515#p297515
But thx for your star :)
blissfulyoshi
Timing check: (I just tried fine tuning the timing a bit since the previous timing was pretty close. Apply what you think feels better)
BPM:150.500 Offset: 6,882
BPM:151.100 Offset:19,630
BPM:196.000 Offset:30,754
BPM:148.500 Offset:53,917
BPM:151.000 Offset:58,906
BPM:196.000 Offset:83,540
BPM:196.000 Offset:154,130

Good luck on ranking this song. Remember to apply this timing to all diffs (the osu! circle pulsates at the BPM you set, so make sure the easiest diff has the extra uninherited timing section) and resnap all the notes.

Edit:
Here is the form you can copy into the .osu file.
6882,398.671096345515,4,1,0,70,1,0
19630,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
30754,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
53917,404.040404040404,4,1,0,70,1,0
58906,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
83540,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
154130,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
jockeytiyan
I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
soulfear
I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
Topic Starter
Blatzk

jockeytiyan wrote:

I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?
uhh... "Rise Against" and "Rage against the Machine"... you just told me a combination of both ^^
I think they are two different bands or am i wrong?

soulfear wrote:

I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!
well... just depends on BATs... if they stop ignoring me it maybe gets ranked someday >.<
Luvdic
General:

- The aproach circle is weird... It makes me feels dizzy for some reason ahahaha

Easy:

Consider adding a circle here 00:32:590, 00:42:386, 01:25:376, 01:30:274, 01:40:070 - etc, i hope you get what i mean.
00:49:121 (1) - Consider adding one extra repeat so it would end at 00:50:958. If youre going to do it, you will obviously have to move the spinner and shorten it a bit
01:26:907 (3) - Extend it so it would end at 01:27:213
01:36:703 (3) - ^

Normal:

I just think that there are parts that are a bit too confusive... I aint mentioning them cause it doesnt worth it. (btw, i partly blame it due to low distance spacing that makes them all clustered, oh and also these clustered things... they doesnt looks good in my opinion >_>)


Hard:

01:53:846 (4) - This 2x slider is kinda pointless.

Aqua92:

Nothing to say

And remember, they are just suggestions/comments from me,
Starrodkirby86
[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?

[Easy]:
Why is there no pulsing storyboard on Easy? You can always put all the pulses except for the one on the last chorus in the .osb, then just make a new object for the pulse on the last chorus. XD

[Normal]:
01:20:958 (3) - This break seems random. xD

[Hard]:
Wow, that is one cool Speed-up warning.

[Aqua92's Prayer]:
00:41:162 (3) - Haha, lonely whistle. :V

Uhh...This is a bit nazi but, can you crop the hitcircle.png to make it 128x128? Thanks!
Topic Starter
Blatzk
ok... fixed that... thaaaaank you :3

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?
well... it just doesn't work in [Hard] because there are notes before 00:59:700 and they need this timing.
Huskatron
hey! i made a difficulty, im sorry if if might need a little work, but you know what they say: no map is a perfect map!

here it is (dont nag me about not having it on a forum and blah blah): http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ghakj
Topic Starter
Blatzk
what the... i never asked you to make one o.o
no new difs here... it would take another 2 month with modding... so no, thx >.<
but thx for that star
KRZY
I'm not skilled enough to mod, but I definitely want this song ranked as soon as possible. This is my favorite song by far. If I had any kudoses I would use all of them on this song.

Star!
Kotya
I love this map
star ^^
Topic Starter
Blatzk
Kubu edited his Insane. It had no hitsounds so i added them by myself.
Should be checked by BAT if it's rankable...
If yes I'll add it again. If not, it should gets separated cause it's so awesome ^^
Andrea
This difficulty is really fun and challenging but it have a lot of unrankable things, like some hidden sliders and some "WTF" parts with strange spacings...

Try to get other opinions, but IMHO that difficulty is for approval only XD
Mismagius
kubu diff back <3

irc modded but don't think he changed anything :P
ReimuSS
nice map!
niedz
o.o
SteRRuM
Star
klubek
good song, nice map, star~*
taNa
cool
taka1235
crazy :(
f0012979
wow nice XD

star :)
Rolled
kubu <3
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