Aaaaaaargh your mp3 makes me sick. Use this mp3, and consider begging Rolled to finish his difficulty.

Download: Rise Against - Prayers of the Refugee.mp3

heyyyyyy yaaaaaaaaaa starrrrrrrr

lov this beatmap great uuuujo 1 star xDD

eeemod GO!!!

I can't find much, do what you will.

[Normal]
01:43:156 (5) - add a reverse arrow to this
02:29:981 (1) - delete this and add a break (?) so it'll be like [Hard]

good map, not great, but it's good, nicely done. song is awesome too ;)

Hai ^^

[Easy]
00:25:997 - Remove spinner and map spinner + break?
01:07:668 (5,6) - Replace wit a spinner?
01:43:768 - End Spinner here?

[Normal]
00:13:486 - Add note?
01:38:260 (1) - 1 Grid down ^^
if ^ then 01:40:708 (1) - 1 Grid down
02:25:390 (3) - Spinner? Slider looks ugly D:
02:54:951 (4) - looks ugly ):
02:59:847 (4) - looks ugly <.<'

[Hard]
00:50:662 (6) - Move left to (5) like the others
Nice!

Sternchen

Lets go


Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these, but you may be able to get away with not changing it
Red = major issues. you need to change these

1. Timing looks good. I'm a little wary about the one at 00:06:900 but after double checking it it seemed fine, so I guess it works.[/color]
2. You could use a better MP3. the one you have doesn't sound great.
3. No source. Is there an album name you could put here?
4. When the BPM changed for the chorus, it feels jarring when it comes in. Thats the songs fault though, so that can't be helped

[EASY]

01:08:464 (1) - This sounds better when moved 1/2 forward to me
02:16:209 (1) - This might be a little close to that spinner for an easy. Maybe you could delete this beat, and make the spinner a whole beat longer.

[NORMAL]

Looks good

[HARD]

'tis fine

Not bad. The map didn't blow my mind but its solid. I quite liked those Storyboarded arrows. I like little things like that

Starred

Fixed 'dat all
thx @ all

Did you say you added the new MP3? If so, I haven't got it. do a full resubmit with the new MP3. That should fix it.

Ahh right xD
Just replaced my mp3...
Oh jeez... noo...
That's why everyone said that timing was ok even with the new mp3... o.o
They all downloaded the map with the old mp3 -.-

ok then... now someone go for timing checks pls...

I checked the timing, and by the looks of things you don't need to do anything with the timing. It fits fine with the new MP3. All lights are green here.

Protobubbled

W00T! Rise Against!

Pls let me do a Difficult ! Pls

RA - my absolute favourite band

Aqua92 wrote:

Pls let me do a Difficult ! Pls

Well... From my side... Sure, why not ^^

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A bit IRC modding, maps are fine.

Soo bin fertig.

Bitte (wenns geht) alles uppen

Mit dem diff namen bin ich mir noch net sicher....
Und auch bissl bugged an manchen stellen :/

Aber naja^^

Da:
Download: 11090 Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee.rar


Kleines EDIT:
Falls du meine diff übernimmst, könntest du bitte dein sb diff spezifisch machen?^^
das mischt sich mit meinem >.<

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Xero_HT wrote:

[Aqua's]
Was Combos angeht bin ich mir echt nicht sicher.. Bin ja auch noch neu im Modden ^^
Du hast dir sicher Mühe mit dem SB gemacht, aber das pulsierende RA Logo geht gar nich sorry. Das lenkt zu sehr ab.
Die Zitate sind aber cool =).

Soo schlimm find ichs garnet^^ Man darf sich halt nur nicht ablenken lassen.
Und ausserdem: Gibt schlimmeres Siehe Happy-Diffs
Ich find das kann bleiben

Wenn du meinst. Aber so ein SB kann das ranken verhindern...

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Well...
I can't agree with you in some points, Xero_HT... This mod wasn't really helpful imo
Changed some points... but not much

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>Easy
Seems fine to me, if anything you should raise OD by one tick..

>Normal
03:12:089 (1,1,1,1) - Stack the startpoints of these.
Also, raise OD by one tick. Some parts are pretty hard to read like this.

>Aqua92's Prayer
00:50:050 (1) - Stack on the end of the slider.
01:21:750 (5,6) - Align horizontally with the slider.
01:27:548 (6,8) - Stack on end of the slider, move 01:27:854 (7) - accordingly.
01:30:302 (1) - Stack end on 01:29:384 (3) -
01:34:893 (6) - Stack on end of the slider.
01:37:648 (8,9) - Align vertically with the end of the slider.
01:44:381 (3) - ^
03:00:765 (7,8,9) - Place so (8) is stacked on the end of the slider.
03:12:395 (1,2,3,4) - Stack on end of the slider.
Also, raise OD one tick.

>Hard
00:43:011 (1) - Align like this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3749
01:24:780 (4) - Stack end on (3)
01:34:573 (4) - ^
02:51:890 (2) - Stack on the beginning of (1)


>Easy, Normal, Hard
Disable letterboxing during breaks. It looks stupid.

Ok... Fixed everything. Thx for your help :>

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Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu

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Hi hi!

Some suggestions for your map, you don't have to change them if you don't agree
Let's go!!

~All Diffs~
- Easy and Normal have a very similar difficulty modifiers, also Easy is way too hard for an Easy map
- Make combocolours be the same on all diffs.
- Text lines on the SB dissapear too suddenly, fade them.
- You need to change offset, some diffs start before the first timing section... I can't seem to find one good offset for it, sorry
- Add kuburaczek to Tags.

~Easy~
- This is too hard for an Easy... but if you increase circle size it becomes so hard to see... :/
- Maybe consider to delete some circles or short sliders or make spacing more readable, there are no more problems though...

~Normal~
02:22:330 (1,2,3,4,5) - Wow, this is like a stream, too hard for a Normal imo ._.'

~Hard~
- I don't like those spaced streams... :/

00:10:275 (4) - Make a SB warning for this? It's hard to see and the reverse arrow is kind of hidden :/
00:19:642 (7) - Spacing (nazi! D:!)

~Aqua92's Prayer~
- Why the SB has another image just on this diff? o.O Also, this image becomes so annoying on some parts (specially at the end)
- There is a New Combo inconsistency... there are so short combos and so long combos, consider balance them.

02:06:110 (17) - Make a SB warning for this.
02:35:364 (4) - ^
02:36:588 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Wtf o_o'
02:40:260 (5,6,7,8,9) - Same o_o'
03:01:377 (10) - Hidden reverse arrow, change this please.

~kubu's Insane~
- Oh my it seems like the circles are going to eat you if you play this right after Aqua's diff xDD. Buuut big hitcircles ftw <3
- Overall Difficulty it's a bit high imo oxo.
- This diff is... too crazy :/ but Miku no shoushitsu is ranked so go ahead :<

00:40:869 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - OMG...
00:42:399 (1,2,3) - Decrease spacing please this is too much.
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know what to say about this... (2,3) are almost hidden :/
01:35:338 (1,2,3,4) - Decrease spacing please this is too much.
01:41:000 (1,1) - I think these sliders (were those called burai sliders?) are unrankable... oxo
01:43:142 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - OMG x_x
01:51:712 (2) - Needs an SB warning, you can't tell where is this going.
02:11:298 (1) - Same as before, I'm sure this is unrankable :/
02:19:868 (1,2,3,4) - Space them a bit more, they're almost hidden.
From 02:34:140 to 02:54:951 - Seriously... wtf is this spacing xD

Good luck with this ^_^ *star*

Awesome.

Star beautiful map

[general]
You should add the guest mapper's names to all diffs (or at least to the corresponding diff).
Those SB warnings *facepalm*, they are pretty nice, though I really don't like this stuff cause it doesn't really help, it says there is a speed up in the next few seconds but you still can't really tell when, you just get more confused and distracted afterwards. But for some reason some people always request those. Imo it's useless and ugly...


[Easy]
You got some return sliders at the end with different return cout which makes is kinda hard to predict when they are ending. Since it's an Easy diff, this should be mentioned, new players might not be able play this well.

[Normal]
02:54:951 (4) - You got an SB arrow, but still you can't tell which way this slider is going before it's too late.

[Hard]
00:10:275 (4) - the return arrows are well hidden
02:52:502 (1) - The SB arrow is really not needed here imo, this is not even hard to read

[Aqua]
New combo settings are weird here: There are random 1-beat-combos and other stuff making your combos look kinda random. Also the color setting is different from the other diffs and don't fit the Guitar Hero colors.

[kubu]
New combo settings are quite weird here as well, appear pretty random on some parts.

00:30:668 (7,8) - sounds wrong, that's not how the drums go in the song
01:11:635 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - triplet should be on (1) to (2) if you follow the drums
01:33:655 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - might be hard readable
01:41:000 (1,1) - this kind of return slider is unrankable
01:51:712 (2) - you can't tell which way this goes
02:11:298 (1) - unrankable return slider again

The end is pretty much overmapped and very hard to read, I don't bother going into detail, just want to let you know that there are different ways to make a map fun ( In case you consider overmapping as fun)


Ah well, pretty nice map, only the 2 guest diffs had quite some problems.
fumoffu star :3

EDIT:
I think there are some unused files in your folder

Dangaard wrote:

[Aqua]
New combo settings are weird here: There are random 1-beat-combos and other stuff making your combos look kinda random. Also the color setting is different from the other diffs and don't fit the Guitar Hero colors.

Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o

Aqua92 wrote:

Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o

Uhm... because my combo colors are?
Plus this song was in Guitar Hero 3 (that's why i made the colors like this)

bLaTzK wrote:

Aqua92 wrote:

Why should it be Guitar Hero LIke? O.o

Uhm... because my combo colors are?
Plus this song was in Guitar Hero 3 (that's why i made the colors like this)

Ah okay, sry

Than change it of course ^^

xd

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu

Dangaard wrote:

[general]
Those SB warnings *facepalm*, they are pretty nice, though I really don't like this stuff cause it doesn't really help, it says there is a speed up in the next few seconds but you still can't really tell when, you just get more confused and distracted afterwards. But for some reason some people always request those. Imo it's useless and ugly...

Yep... I also think that it doesn't help much but if they want to have... fine with me

But anyway.. Fixed Dangaard's suggestions... thx

[general]
ra.png is not used anywhere I think (the black pic)
hitcircle.png got some dots above the actual circle, you should remove them
I was told that Source is not the place for album names, maybe you like to remove them

[Easy]
02:13:761 (1) - 1/1 longer

[Normal]
02:25:390 (1) - finish instead of whistle sound (or no hitsound like in [Hard], but [Easy] got a finish there)
02:54:951 (4) - this slider still is confusing

[kubu]
02:41:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - you can't tell if the 2nd slider might be the (2) already
03:09:335 (8) - this slider got a similar problem
they might be rankable, don't know, but pretty confusing

Dangaard wrote:

[general]
ra.png is not used anywhere I think (the black pic)
hitcircle.png got some dots above the actual circle, you should remove them
I was told that Source is not the place for album names, maybe you like to remove them

ok...
1) wow... i missed that one... sry - deleted and new full submission
2) lol, how did you see this? ... anyway - removed
3) Removed the sauce source in very dif

changed the rest too (except for kubu's dif cause he doesn't want the change)
but thx again ^^

ok last thing:

[kubu]
01:12:431 - overlapping time sections ( seems like the green one can be deleted)

Master Lelouch! Sorry for the late mod post. I kinda got into trouble before I got myself into it. lol

Easy:


Normal:

Hard:


Aqua92's Prayer:


kubu's Insane:

Kubu's is very fun to me. I can't mod it right now but I just wanted to say that. I've only played Aqua's and Hard like once, though I wonder, why does the SB not appear in Kubu's? I might have to re-dl, but I thought I got this after the 23rd change and the images are still there.

Shinde wrote:

Kubu's is very fun to me. I can't mod it right now but I just wanted to say that. I've only played Aqua's and Hard like once, though I wonder, why does the SB not appear in Kubu's? I might have to re-dl, but I thought I got this after the 23rd change and the images are still there.

Uhhh... right... forgot about that
If kubu accepts, i'll add SB

sure ^^

bLaTzK wrote:

If kubu accepts, i'll add SB

kuburaczek wrote:

sure ^^

So I added SB

Overall:
- Get someone to thoroughly check the timing.

Storyboard:
03:04:744 - I suggest doubling the speed of the strobe starting from here.


Kubu:
- The chorusses are totally overmapped. Like, seriously. SERIOUSLY ;_;.
- Switching from sliders to circles to sliders to circles in streams does NEVER work well. Stuff like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4307 Just does not play well at all, it doesn't even sync the song
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
00:15:864 (1) - The first time I played the diff I could hardly see that this is a slider, because it was hidden. Fix please.
00:22:224 (1) - Doesn't quite sync anything in the song
00:27:986 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This feels a bit empty. Doesn't really sync the song.
00:40:945 (1) - Random new combo?!
01:05:667 (1) - This slider really doesn't look pretty and doesn't quite work.
01:11:834 (3,4,5,6) - Those notes are so close to each other... really, compare it to the rest of the map
01:18:580 (2,3) - Derp spacing. I can see how this is supposed to work, but it doesn't play that well to me anyways. Fix or not, up to you.
01:26:004 (1,2,3,4) - Uuuh.... No, not quite. This could be prettier and better to play.
01:29:064 (3,4,5) - Unfitting jump much.
01:33:731 (1) - Return of the Random New Combo!
01:35:797 (4,1) - The sudden spacing change from "SUPER HUGE" to "average jump" does NOT WORK. A New Combo doesn't justify it either.
01:40:694 (6,1) - ^
01:41:459 (1) - Random stupid New Combo #3, Also this slider doesn't sync the song.
01:44:290 (16,1) - A 1/4 jump? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? NO THIS DOES NOT WORK GET OUT
01:55:843 (2,3,4) - Spacing. It kind of sort of worked while playing though, fix it or not.
01:59:975 (1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:11:298 (1) - All the sliders before had 3 repeats each, this one only has 1. Does not play well at all.
02:11:757 (1) - Remove New Combo?
02:34:140 (1,1,1,1,1) - New Combos. Meh.
02:41:485 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can't read this to save my life.
02:44:315 (1) - Random new combo again
02:44:239 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
02:47:911 (5,6,1,2,1,2) - I can't read this to save my life. Also the New Combos are dumb.
02:50:360 (2,3,1,2,1,2) - I CAN read this but this is just retarded
02:51:584 (1,1,1) - Maybe remove those new combos.
02:54:032 (2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - That stream's spacing is just... meh. Keep if you must?
03:04:744 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - No. No. Noooooooooooo WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY THIS DOES NOT PLAY WELL COME ON. I CAN HARDLY READ THAT

Aqua92 wrote:

Hell...
Seriously, whats the Point of Creating such Difficulties?

They destroy really wonderful songs like this one =(

This map is what I'd call "Full of artificial difficulty". Yes, this song justifies being difficult. But random jumps? Random spacing changes? Random EVERYTHING?
All of you know me, I'm not a nazi modder. I let things pass at times. But this? This is just bullshit
I highly suggest removing or remapping this difficulty.

00:50:993 (1) - oh and this is not snapped


Aqua:
00:00:494 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I don't suggest mapping this part, The hitsounds sound bad right now since Soft sample would be more appropiate and the timing is most likely wrong.
01:38:260 (1) - Random spinner ?_?
02:11:312 (1) - ^?
02:37:506 (6,7,8) - Spacing a bit ugly and inconsistant. Move 7 a bit to the left to fix that.
02:42:709 (1,2,3,4,5) - Inconsistant spacing jump? =P It's not bad, fixing it or not is up to you.
02:47:605 (8,9,10) - ewww spacing
02:51:278 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Patterns like this rarely play well, on maps with a fast BPM they usually never do.
03:04:744 - If you put another kiai section here, at least let it stay =P
03:07:804 (1) - Weird new combo
03:13:619 (1) - Hidden Repeat :

Hard:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
- I dislike how you only use Kiai fountains and no real sections. Make the Kiai sections longer, it'll be pretty.
01:17:590 (2,4) - Ew overlap =( It's rankable though.
01:20:759 (8,9) - Ew overlap =( It's still rankable, but here it's even worse.
01:53:854 (4) - I love that arrow.
02:52:579 - Lol, I don't think that arrow is needed. And if you really wanna keep it here,

Normal:
- Usually, storyboarded hitsounds suck =S Keep if you must.
02:17:127 (5,6) - I suggest removing one of the repeats from each of these sliders
02:19:576 (5,6) - ^
03:12:089 (1,1,1,1) - The New Combos here aren't pretty. Remove if you agree.

Easy:
00:39:339 (1) - Remove New Combo maybe.
00:40:869 (1,2) - I don't quite like how this is so close to the last slider.
01:31:221 (2) - Í suggest removing one of the repeats and replacing it with a hitcircle.

Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it

bLaTzK wrote:

Except timing and kubu's fixes i fixed everything
Kubu: go for mod or i delete your dif...
EDIT: ...or find BATs who would accept to rank it

I want my map to get ranked one day... so if your dif stops me from getting this ranked, i will delete it

Dont worry, i fixed majority of this tomorrow, cuz today dont have much time D:

Download: Rise Against - Prayer of the Refugee (bLaTzK) [kubu's Insane].osu

ok... removed that dif (kubu's Insane) that Larto loved soo much

Star and some minor IRC mods.

Kubu's diff is the better

Good map!
~star~

yaya wrote:

ah it's so noisy , sorry
btw , all aqua92's diff with box placement

Box Placement?

Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.

bLaTzK wrote:

Hmm ok... thx yaya for trying ^^
Aqua: Uhm Box placement... you placed your notes in a box. Made a screen of a part of your dif.

Lolz... Whoops

:O It's Rise Against

Hmm

Nice Map

<3

Star.

Great map! Very fun to play ^_^

highly synchronized is fun to play

Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.

Have a teletubby star.

deepsea wrote:

Not that sure for timing but overall its a good map.

Well... heard that a lot of times and all told me to get in that timing help queue and it is... awp posted it there for me on Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:15 pm... but i don't know if that queue is still in use... Here's that link but it's a post by awp for me ^^
viewtopic.php?p=297515#p297515
But thx for your star

Timing check: (I just tried fine tuning the timing a bit since the previous timing was pretty close. Apply what you think feels better)
BPM:150.500 Offset: 6,882
BPM:151.100 Offset:19,630
BPM:196.000 Offset:30,754
BPM:148.500 Offset:53,917
BPM:151.000 Offset:58,906
BPM:196.000 Offset:83,540
BPM:196.000 Offset:154,130

Good luck on ranking this song. Remember to apply this timing to all diffs (the osu! circle pulsates at the BPM you set, so make sure the easiest diff has the extra uninherited timing section) and resnap all the notes.

Edit:
Here is the form you can copy into the .osu file.
6882,398.671096345515,4,1,0,70,1,0
19630,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
30754,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
53917,404.040404040404,4,1,0,70,1,0
58906,397.350993377483,4,1,0,70,1,0
83540,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0
154130,306.122448979592,4,1,0,70,1,0

I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?

I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!

jockeytiyan wrote:

I just noticed, why didn't you place the artist as Rise Against the Machines (I'm not sure what it exactly is. lol)?

uhh... "Rise Against" and "Rage against the Machine"... you just told me a combination of both ^^
I think they are two different bands or am i wrong?

soulfear wrote:

I hope this can be ranked as soon as possible.I love the song&map!

well... just depends on BATs... if they stop ignoring me it maybe gets ranked someday >.<

General:

- The aproach circle is weird... It makes me feels dizzy for some reason ahahaha

Easy:

Consider adding a circle here 00:32:590, 00:42:386, 01:25:376, 01:30:274, 01:40:070 - etc, i hope you get what i mean.
00:49:121 (1) - Consider adding one extra repeat so it would end at 00:50:958. If youre going to do it, you will obviously have to move the spinner and shorten it a bit
01:26:907 (3) - Extend it so it would end at 01:27:213
01:36:703 (3) - ^

Normal:

I just think that there are parts that are a bit too confusive... I aint mentioning them cause it doesnt worth it. (btw, i partly blame it due to low distance spacing that makes them all clustered, oh and also these clustered things... they doesnt looks good in my opinion >_>)


Hard:

01:53:846 (4) - This 2x slider is kinda pointless.

Aqua92:

Nothing to say

And remember, they are just suggestions/comments from me,

[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?

[Easy]:
Why is there no pulsing storyboard on Easy? You can always put all the pulses except for the one on the last chorus in the .osb, then just make a new object for the pulse on the last chorus. XD

[Normal]:
01:20:958 (3) - This break seems random. xD

[Hard]:
Wow, that is one cool Speed-up warning.

[Aqua92's Prayer]:
00:41:162 (3) - Haha, lonely whistle. :V

Uhh...This is a bit nazi but, can you crop the hitcircle.png to make it 128x128? Thanks!

ok... fixed that... thaaaaank you :3

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

[All Difficulties]:
00:59:700 (1) - Maybe have the red timing section start here to get the metronome straight?

well... it just doesn't work in [Hard] because there are notes before 00:59:700 and they need this timing.

hey! i made a difficulty, im sorry if if might need a little work, but you know what they say: no map is a perfect map!

here it is (dont nag me about not having it on a forum and blah blah): http://www.sendspace.com/file/8ghakj

what the... i never asked you to make one o.o
no new difs here... it would take another 2 month with modding... so no, thx >.<
but thx for that star

I'm not skilled enough to mod, but I definitely want this song ranked as soon as possible. This is my favorite song by far. If I had any kudoses I would use all of them on this song.

Star!

I love this map
star ^^

Kubu edited his Insane. It had no hitsounds so i added them by myself.
Should be checked by BAT if it's rankable...
If yes I'll add it again. If not, it should gets separated cause it's so awesome ^^

This difficulty is really fun and challenging but it have a lot of unrankable things, like some hidden sliders and some "WTF" parts with strange spacings...

Try to get other opinions, but IMHO that difficulty is for approval only XD

kubu diff back <3

irc modded but don't think he changed anything :P

nice map!

o.o

Star

good song, nice map, star~*

cool

crazy

wow nice XD

star

kubu <3

Good crazy map

niceXD

I love kubu's diff, I'm glad to see it's back.

Nice map & song

star!

kubus diff is fun ^^

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crazy kubu diff~

Fun ~

Here's my thoughts...OK, I feel really bad about this mod now ;_;. A lot of them are only suggestions. If you think it works much better as it is, then tell me or something. o.o Um, maybe it's best if we were to discuss this in IRC too.

[kubu's Insane]:
00:36:876 (1,2,3,4) - The way (2) and (4) are spaced makes it very uncomfortable and cramped to play. If you look throughout this area the spacing seems to be quite large, so just squeezing it in like that, especially from (4) to the next (1), pretty much feels weird. Maybe the only reason I am complaining is because of this (4) and next (1). O_o
01:11:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not that I had trouble with it, but what do you think of the underspacing here? o.o
01:18:778 (3) - New combo~
01:33:642 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Maybe you can rearrange this as some pretty circular loop shape instead of some hard-to-read overlap.
01:39:381 (1,2) - Hmm...this right here...I don't understand the rhythm behind it. Sure, I can press it in time yeah, but what does it follow? Secondly, it's just awkward that I have to squeeze in there to press (1) and (2) then jump out for the rest of the notes, you know? :S
01:54:152 (1) - Lol, who would anticipate this surprise? xP
02:34:130 (1,2,3,4) - I don't know why, but when they're squeezed in like this, I can't even get the rhythm right O_o.
02:41:476 (1,2,3,4) - Really, REALLY, difficult to read this. I can't see (2) very well, and to make things worse I have to go back to (4) for another near-hidden slider. =p
02:47:446 (4,5) - Eek. Who can tell that's a jump, or even actually make it successfully in this?
02:47:752 (6,7,8,1,2,1,2) - And the spacing here is so crowded. >x< It's very difficult to read 02:48:211 (1,2,1,2) - .
02:54:027 (2) - Can you space this a little more upwards?

Er...Sorry if it's a lot. ;_____;

The map is really enjoyable. Maybe I got carried away here. XD

Oh yes, the rankability question. A 1043 combo map for something that's not even three minutes might be a little over-the-top. ._. Seeing this difficulty as Approved would be pretty awesome. owo The score cap is all right by me though, but the fact that there's a lot of notes in such little time concerns me.

cool map

kubuuuuuu! why you changed it! why!!?? was awesome :<

it would be neat if kabu's insane had that beat pattern of 45:447 from my map on his. i'm just sayin'

Note that I only looked at the kubu's insane difficulty.

I can't see why this difficulty wouldn't be rankable now that all the unrankable stuff like hidden sliders and such have been removed. As stated by peppy, Approval is *supposed* to be only for maps that are too long and/or have a really high maximum score. This is neither. It isn't even really THAT difficult either. I suppose it is a lot of notes in 3 minutes, but that kind of comes with the song speed - it is 196 BPM after all

It could use a few changes though:

Increasing the stack leniency by 1 tick makes the map much more readable overall. This should really be changed if you want this difficulty ranked. It doesn't really mess up any patterns EXCEPT this one:

01:57:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)

You can correct that by moving the entire stack 1 grid right and down (note that I mean at grid level 1) and it will stack "correctly"

01:11:618 (1,2,3) - this is kind of weird and cramped
01:44:279 (16,1) - mid 1/4 stream jump? at 196 BPM? Couldn't you just like make it all part of the same stream? Like this I mean: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14112 All I did was move the yellow 1 so that it was between the 8 and 9 in the stream and then vertical flipped it.
01:59:815 - add a circle here maybe?
02:34:130 (1,2,3,4) - why did you change this? It was so much better as jumps
02:38:415 (1,2,3,4) - this is pretty ridiculous, but I didn't have a problem reading or hitting it
02:46:987 (1,2,3,4) - what the hell?
03:09:640 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - could you make these two mini-streams a bit more curved, rather than a linear L shape like that?

Actually I liked the section from 03:03:517 to 03:10:864 better in the original version.

Usually I don't points out combo mods, but a couple parts of the map are actually more confusing because of the combo placement:

02:50:048 (1,2,3,1) - move the combos around to make these notes all the same combo...
02:50:813 (2,1,2) - ...and then make these all the same combo
02:54:104 (1) - remove this new combo

Also the timing might be slightly off? I didn't check it in great detail

Speed ups feel pretty random in [Aqua92's Prayer]. I'd advise you to remove them...

Also, in the storyboard images, some files contain unnecessary transparency. "quote1-1.png" could use some cutting from up and down, it really doesn't need to be that big.

In [Hard], the section at 02:34:130 is supposed to be 196, like the other difficulties.

Everything else looks... good.

Bubbling a map that will probably continue to be disputed. I'd love to spec some better players trying kubu's insane though. It looks fine to me. With all the talk, I actually expected it to be HARDER. It's a whole lot of fun though.

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All difficulties:
Turn the stack leniency up. It looks terrible as it is right now.



kubu's Insane:
inb4 i start a shitwar.

First off: http://puu.sh/22Y <---- absolutely not. this needs to be raised to a more appropriate level

02:15:121 (2) - Is this really necessary? It's nothing but noise. Having one or two hit circles instead would be better than inflating the combo.
02:46:987 (1,2,3,4) - ^
03:02:293 (1,1) - ^
03:10:864 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not spaced correctly, use new colors if you want to keep the jumps

First play. Some jumps are quite challenging, but there are maps a lot harder than this, so I think it's ok o.o