lol it's better than shyvana mundo renekton every timeVulf wrote:
Yep ranged top (Ryze, Kennen, and Jayce) are coming back thanks to nerfs to items. Time to quit top lane again because that shit is frustrating.
lol it's better than shyvana mundo renekton every timeVulf wrote:
Yep ranged top (Ryze, Kennen, and Jayce) are coming back thanks to nerfs to items. Time to quit top lane again because that shit is frustrating.
No it's not.Kanye West wrote:
lol it's better than shyvana mundo renekton every time
What?BrokenArrow wrote:
Oh, so now you actually have to think about successful trading and being more reliant on jungler ganks and stuff like that, it's almost like you have to use your brain in top lane for once
I love hearing all the people that think they do have the advantage being ranged vs a melee.those wrote:
Ranged does not always have an advantage over melee.
That's not the problem because if it was then why ever play a melee champion? The problem is there isn't really a trade off for those champions being ranged when you compare them to other ranged stuff like Sivir for example. If stuff like Ryze, Jayce, and Kennen become the go top laners again it will make that role even more stale when it comes to champion variety. At least the tanks had niche counters.BrokenArrow wrote:
What if I told you that ranged champions always had a poke advantage over melee champs? That has always been the case and is not a problem, you simply can't always win lane. I'm honestly just happy to see some new old champions back in the top lane again.
I agree on Ryze being a bit too strong right now tho.
You can't really compare Gragas to the standard melee when his lowest ranged ability is 600 while being relatively tanky and safe in lane. If I could clear minion waves with Warwick and Trundle with 950 range this wouldn't be an issue. Gragas is a pretty severe issue right now and that's why he is getting reworked.those wrote:
Gragas vs Orianna Have a nice day (?)
Ranged does not always have an advantage over melee.
Gragas has free sustain whenever he casts a spell AND he takes less damage when his W is active, other melees don't have that. Also he can easily farm waves with his barrels, obviously he doesn't have trouble laning against ranged champions...those wrote:
Gragas vs Orianna Have a nice day (?)
Ranged does not always have an advantage over melee.
being ranged/having ranged wave-clear against melee champs is not an advantage?Justykanna wrote:
I love hearing all the people that think they do have the advantage being ranged vs a melee.
I meant people think ranged is 'always' better than melee.Glass wrote:
being ranged/having ranged wave-clear against melee champs is not an advantage?
lol?
>Play melee against Ryze top
Try to last hit? Nope, get combo'd.
Try to hard engage? Nope, get rooted.
Call for jungler help? Yeah good luck with that in your average solo-queue game.
Just leech exp? LOOOOOL have fun being useless while Ryze free-farms to critical mass and rapes your entire team.
Ryze top can fuck off
It's literally like 4 champions that we are talking about. Ryze being the biggest offender out of them all.Justykanna wrote:
I meant people think ranged is 'always' better than melee.
Wasn't really looking at specifics like that. -_-
Professional players play melee against him all the time? he literally hasn't been played at all until the last week of LCS, and when he was finally played he shat all over strong tops like Renekton and Mundo. The ONE team that played Ryze top in LCS so far was CLG, and what happens after they pick him; teams that play against CLG started banning Ryze every game. Yeah pro players sure play melee against him all the timeZeraph wrote:
itt: people bitch about ryze even though professional players play melee champions against him all the time.
inb4 more solo q whining
Omg!those wrote:
Gragas vs Orianna Have a nice day (?)
Ranged does not always have an advantage over melee.
No? He was picked ONCE in OGN since his buffs by Jin Air Green Wings (literally 0-4 team). The patch hit recently but I guarantee he'll be pick/ban for a lot of teams soon once they get more practiced with him.Kanye West wrote:
he was played in OGN a few times and maybe masters too
Obviously they didn't have problems with it considering the only time he's been picked is by the last place team. That would be equivalent of saying Elise isn't retarded strong because XDG loses with her. Ryze has been banned every single game against Blaze and Frost.Kanye West wrote:
and teams never had a problem with it.
I approve, he is a life bag with nuking abilitiesGraciee wrote:
Omg!those wrote:
Gragas vs Orianna Have a nice day (?)
Ranged does not always have an advantage over melee.
Going against a Gragas as an Ori is definitely my worst nightmare. :/
Basically the opposite of me.. I've lost like 16 out of my last 20 rankeds and dropped almost 2 divisions in the last week. Funny thing is how I won my lane pretty much every single fucking time, roamed and tried to get other lanes ahead but every time lategame someone decides to be a horrible retarded fucker and throws the game.TKiller wrote:
I realised that all my favourite top lane picks are unreliable/nerfed into oblivion, so I went back to my roots.
I'm done tilting I guess.
I've seen sivirs spellshield EVERY SINGLE thresh hook / blitz grab I've landed. Might be this? oOtyrael6192 wrote:
just found out that scripting is a thing
shit like automatic perfect cs, automatic skillshot prediction, automatic orb-walking, script that dodges skillshots, spacebar to execute combo
went to the script site forum and saw people being proud of reaching high plat/diamond with scripts
??????
However they might just be that good. o.oJordan wrote:
I've seen sivirs spellshield EVERY SINGLE thresh hook / blitz grab I've landed. Might be this? oOtyrael6192 wrote:
just found out that scripting is a thing
shit like automatic perfect cs, automatic skillshot prediction, automatic orb-walking, script that dodges skillshots, spacebar to execute combo
went to the script site forum and saw people being proud of reaching high plat/diamond with scripts
??????
I could play with you on weekends I guess.SoG Tava wrote:
i am getting tired of playing 'solo' Q alone i am looking for people to duo with , yes i know there is a osu! chatroom where i can ask , but that chatroom is dead so i am asking it over here so please add me on the euw server ign: SoG Tava thanks in advance
Blaziken wrote:
However they might just be that good. o.o
For fuck sake I really wanted for this to not be a thing.tyrael6192 wrote:
Blaziken wrote:
However they might just be that good. o.o
There was a huge banwave of script users a couple of months ago, they were instantly permabanned on all of their accounts.Vulf wrote:
Scripting has been a thing for years now it's just more common to run into now. Riot does nothing about it and has never really acknowledged it actually existing.
Source? I have heard no such thing ever happening en masse. Only thing I've heard is people getting false banned for mouse macros, but that was like 4 years ago.Sankaritarina wrote:
There was a huge banwave of script users a couple of months ago, they were instantly permabanned on all of their accounts.