lol whats the point?

P r o m i s e s wrote:

Elo boosters everywhere.

How is being Bronze 5 considered eloboosting?

Holy fuck

Sankaritarina wrote:

Gambit is not overrated. CJ Frost is probably the only team in the world that has better record on international turnaments (not counting teams that took part in one international tournament like SKT T1 K). Gambit hype on events like IEM is based on facts and stats.

Go read reddit.

BrokenArrow wrote:

P r o m i s e s wrote:

Elo boosters everywhere.

How is being Bronze 5 considered eloboosting?

Look at those Trynd and Garen stats. LOL
Most likely someones duo queue smurf to abuse ranked matchmaking for easier games. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were elo boosting others with that account.

Edit: Apparently "Summoner 4" is the same person.

BrokenArrow wrote:

P r o m i s e s wrote:

Elo boosters everywhere.

How is being Bronze 5 considered eloboosting?

He purposely gets himself in Bronze 5 while he probably is someone from diamond 1. He duo's with someone for money, and carries the person he's duo-ing with. He avoids winning his promo's by playing garen and/or nunu and feeding hard.
Last time I checked he duo'ed with someone named "WeLoveYouTeoLite" and he was silver 3. He's now gold 5 lol

*EDIT* Found another one lol http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/519 ... nked-stats

Played an ARAM with Crumbz, was pretty fun

Luckily I got Nami so I just spammed spells and it worked, didn't embarass myself too much

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

Vulf wrote:

Sankaritarina wrote:

Gambit is not overrated. CJ Frost is probably the only team in the world that has better record on international turnaments (not counting teams that took part in one international tournament like SKT T1 K). Gambit hype on events like IEM is based on facts and stats.

Go read reddit.

I read it every day, not sure how that changes anything I said.

P r o m i s e s wrote:

He purposely gets himself in Bronze 5 while he probably is someone from diamond 1. He duo's with someone for money, and carries the person he's duo-ing with. He avoids winning his promo's by playing garen and/or nunu and feeding hard.
Last time I checked he duo'ed with someone named "WeLoveYouTeoLite" and he was silver 3. He's now gold 5 lol

Playing duoq and carrying someone is not elo boosting, it's allowed. It sucks, but it's allowed.

Sankaritarina wrote:

I read it every day, not sure how that changes anything I said.

The fact that this made it to the front page and then was removed proves that the circle jerk is real.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... _see_this/

Also it could still be the fact that I still think Alex Ich is one of the biggest douches out there after what he did back in season 2 that influences that opinion.

Vulf wrote:

Sankaritarina wrote:

I read it every day, not sure how that changes anything I said.

The fact that this made it to the front page and then was removed proves that the circle jerk is real.
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends ... _see_this/

Also it could still be the fact that I still think Alex Ich is one of the biggest douches out there after what he did back in season 2 that influences that opinion.

The thread got removed so I have no idea what did it say.

How is Alex a douche? Most of Moscow 5 members were toxic in season 2, but people change.

the nigga sang happy birthday to his wife in broken english in front of thousands of people

he's a cool dude

Justykanna wrote:

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

He's at his best when enemy team is low on jump skills. Level one is still very deceptive and most players still can get baited by red pot. If you're planning a level one kill top lane, try to kill 1-2 minions of the enemy wave and not lose any of yours for the best results. His E is a massive buff for teams that need movement and autoattacking. Don't get baited by Q bonus gold, don't freeze the lane when you can roam and do something with your team or harass an opponent who's low on hp regen/lifesteal. His most efficient builds in my opnion are full damage (Shiv is one the best items for GP damage builds I highly recommend it) and high armor tank disruptor. Therefore I wouldn't recommend him against teams heavy on magic burst.

Soloq support GP is quite okay when you got a pick that can utilise your E buff well. If you're winning your lane and your adc is an okay guy, you can go for double Shiv rush.

That's all I can think of from the get-go.

I'm just waiting for his rework.

I never heard of a Gangplank rework plan and I don't think he needs one either.

I'd be hella weirded out if he was reworked tbh.

I don't want to start the whole "X needs a rework because of Y reasons" discussion again, but his rework has been confirmed by Riot GMang.
Source: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... 0#45650180

It's in the same boat as the Warwick rework. "It's done when it's ready". So it can be next month or next year before it's finished.

Ridiculous.

Hey. The rework might turn out to be better. *pfffffffff

Justykanna wrote:

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

Dont harass with your q until you have your shiv just focus on DAT extra gold.

AnegoHC wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

Dont harass with your q until you have your shiv just focus on DAT extra gold.

lel

AnegoHC wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

Dont harass with your q until you have your shiv just focus on DAT extra gold.

Is this true? I mean it sounds pretty smart

Is this true? I mean it sounds pretty smart

Well to be honest -I- think its match up depending
If you play against someone who can sustain like hell (Aatrox for example) your q wont do much early
If you play against someone who cant sustain (Darius for example) you can try to safe harass them
If you play against someone who can block or absorb your q (Malph/Shen/Panth) Its just nonsense using your q

Dont harass with your q until you have your shiv just focus on DAT extra gold.

Sorry, TKiller I really was a bit lazy with my post

You basically need to harass and utilise the bonus gold at the same time while keeping your resources in mind. Only using it early levels to farm in every matchup is a terrible advice.

top is all about lane matchup but gangplank is just horrible in the current meta. just farm up until you can buy a tiamat and just farm all day getting bonus q gold on tiamat splash is amazing.

there's a really good reason you don't see him played ever and only see like 3-5 champs up at top nowadays :>

it's all about the AP gangplank supp

if you want free elo right now, go play ryze top

thank me later

Yep ranged top (Ryze, Kennen, and Jayce) are coming back thanks to nerfs to items. Time to quit top lane again because that shit is frustrating.

How about Zed? Is he strong in the current meta?

sades wrote:

How about Zed? Is he strong in the current meta?

I don't think he was as good as he was in the past.



This is one of the best games I had in a while. I love how Renekton is still worth something even if he doesn't win lane.
The only reason we lost is because our ashe got disconnected from the game however she still had a connection to the internet. I guess I could say riot pls but we did get caught fighting baron once and got aced allowing them to take two inhibitors.



It wasn't that bad I guess.

TKiller wrote:

Justykanna wrote:

Can anyone offer some tips to a Gangplank user?
Love the champion but things have just not gone well for me this season. =(

He's at his best when enemy team is low on jump skills. Level one is still very deceptive and most players still can get baited by red pot. If you're planning a level one kill top lane, try to kill 1-2 minions of the enemy wave and not lose any of yours for the best results. His E is a massive buff for teams that need movement and autoattacking. Don't get baited by Q bonus gold, don't freeze the lane when you can roam and do something with your team or harass an opponent who's low on hp regen/lifesteal. His most efficient builds in my opnion are full damage (Shiv is one the best items for GP damage builds I highly recommend it) and high armor tank disruptor. Therefore I wouldn't recommend him against teams heavy on magic burst.

Soloq support GP is quite okay when you got a pick that can utilise your E buff well. If you're winning your lane and your adc is an okay guy, you can go for double Shiv rush.

That's all I can think of from the get-go.

I've actually noticed a lot of champions I see top lane have a jump of some form. Kha'Zix, Wukong, Renekton, Pantheon.
Yeah, I know to make sure to pop the E in teamfights and try to make sure the ADs are in range.
I only use Q for a minion kill when I can't get it with an auto attack otherwise.
Do you go for Shiv first? I usually go for Infinity Edge first because it has AD on it and Stattikk Shiv does not (though I always get it second).

Vulf wrote:

I don't want to start the whole "X needs a rework because of Y reasons" discussion again, but his rework has been confirmed by Riot GMang.
Source: http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/bo ... 0#45650180

It's in the same boat as the Warwick rework. "It's done when it's ready". So it can be next month or next year before it's finished.

Yeah, a friend of mine sent me a different link saying he was in progress but essentially told me the same as you did - it's done when it's done.

AnegoHC wrote:

Dont harass with your q until you have your shiv just focus on DAT extra gold.

I use it to harass if I'm not having great difficulty farming with my auto attack - which doesn't happen terribly often. I watch my mana regardless.

AnegoHC wrote:

Well to be honest -I- think its match up depending
If you play against someone who can sustain like hell (Aatrox for example) your q wont do much early
If you play against someone who cant sustain (Darius for example) you can try to safe harass them
If you play against someone who can block or absorb your q (Malph/Shen/Panth) Its just nonsense using your q

I don't bother using it to poke against people with high sustian, yeah. Pantheon's obviously my greatest frustration.

Zeraph wrote:

top is all about lane matchup but gangplank is just horrible in the current meta. just farm up until you can buy a tiamat and just farm all day getting bonus q gold on tiamat splash is amazing.

there's a really good reason you don't see him played ever and only see like 3-5 champs up at top nowadays :>

I know he's horrible in the meta, which is why I'm asking about some tips for him, here.
I know Tiamat's not bad but... first build?
I see more than five champions top these days (don't forget my rank is reasonably low at Silver) but just because champions are 'in' the meta, it doesn't mean I like them. I wanna play the champions I like, not necessarily the ones that are loved within the meta. Gangplank's my favourite and there's a reason I'm asking people for help - as I said before.

Glass wrote:

if you want free elo right now, go play ryze top

thank me later

Eh, not a fan of mages in general - much less top.

Vulf wrote:

Yep ranged top (Ryze, Kennen, and Jayce) are coming back thanks to nerfs to items. Time to quit top lane again because that shit is frustrating.

I really hope not. Jayce and Kennen was a pain to deal with last season. I like melee - hence why I like top. Soooooooooo that's gonna blow.


Thanks for the help everyone, I appreciate it.

DDoS attack again?

Justykanna wrote:

Zeraph wrote:

top is all about lane matchup but gangplank is just horrible in the current meta. just farm up until you can buy a tiamat and just farm all day getting bonus q gold on tiamat splash is amazing.

there's a really good reason you don't see him played ever and only see like 3-5 champs up at top nowadays :>

I know he's horrible in the meta, which is why I'm asking about some tips for him, here.
I know Tiamat's not bad but... first build?
I see more than five champions top these days (don't forget my rank is reasonably low at Silver) but just because champions are 'in' the meta, it doesn't mean I like them. I wanna play the champions I like, not necessarily the ones that are loved within the meta. Gangplank's my favourite and there's a reason I'm asking people for help - as I said before.

it's hard to give general advice on how to play a champion for top especially as it's one of the most volatile lanes that can be changed completely based just off what champion matchup you have or if your jungler/their jungler is competent. you can tell people how to play a champion (give advice) generally on how to play the champion but if you get a weird matchup then the way you have to play it is completely changed.

i guess fundamentals would just be maxing either q or e depending on how the lane matchup is(if youre losing/winning, vs a ranged champ who harasses too much) keep your mana up around like 75%~ so that you can have a lot of mana for more q usage in more elongated skirmishes. try only to use your q to last hit minions that are too risky to try to take when it's too risky.(you're somewhat low hp, they can kill you in a rotation+ignite) generally just play it safe, gangplank scales well into the midgame and drops down in the late game but makes up for it somewhat with utility coming from a massive aoe slow, single target slows with passive+q, and a team buff with W. when you're going into teamfights try to use the ulti a little further away from the team to block off exit paths rather than directly on top of them as you do lose damage potential by placing it right on top of them as a few of them will be able to run out easily because they won't have to walk into it and rather will be out on the edges of it. try not to use your e immediately as you get hit by your first cc but a little bit later so you can maybe avoid that one crucial cc to getting a kill or assisting towards getting a kill. since gp has no hard cc or massive damage you're also probably better off just trying to peel for your carries if they get dove on or if their enemy has a lot of dive potential. (renekton, or kha'zix whose fucking broken atm.) gl

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/g ... h-44-notes

RIP Kassadin

Justykanna wrote:

I really hope not. Jayce and Kennen was a pain to deal with last season. I like melee - hence why I like top. Soooooooooo that's gonna blow.

well it is happening, my last 5 games as top lane (in high platinum):

Renekton vs Kennen
Singed vs Gragas
Singed vs Akali
Renekton vs Kennen
Singed vs Ryze (one of the most retarded matchup possible, if you thought Singed vs Teemo is bad wait until you try this one)

I'd rather lane against unkillable tanks all day than lane against AP tops

Zeraph wrote:

it's hard to give general advice on how to play a champion for top especially as it's one of the most volatile lanes that can be changed completely based just off what champion matchup

Agreed. I've been completely leaving Gangplank out of action until I could get some advice on him.
Up until now, I've been using Garen (who I've generally been doing well in lane, but less than ideal late game), Wukong (I used him BEFORE people started banning and using him left and right) and Malphite (whose still boring to play for me), depending who I'm laning against.

Zeraph wrote:

try only to use your q to last hit minions that are too risky to try to take when it's too risky.(you're somewhat low hp, they can kill you in a rotation+ignite) generally just play it safe, gangplank scales well into the midgame and drops down in the late game but makes up for it somewhat with utility coming from a massive aoe slow, single target slows with passive+q, and a team buff with W. when you're going into teamfights try to use the ulti a little further away from the team to block off exit paths rather than directly on top of them as you do lose damage potential by placing it right on top of them as a few of them will be able to run out easily because they won't have to walk into it and rather will be out on the edges of it.

Yup, I've been good at the above points for the most part. I'm a passive player by nature, so playing it safe comes easy to me. Only problem is I use Gangplank as a damage dealer, not really a tank, so sometimes I should probably be more aggressive than I am.

Zeraph wrote:

try not to use your e immediately as you get hit by your first cc but a little bit later so you can maybe avoid that one crucial cc to getting a kill or assisting towards getting a kill.

I never actually thought of that. I'll keep that in mind.

Much thanks for your help, Zeraph! =)

Glass wrote:

well it is happening, my last 5 games as top lane (in high platinum):

Renekton vs Kennen
Singed vs Gragas
Singed vs Akali
Renekton vs Kennen
Singed vs Ryze (one of the most retarded matchup possible, if you thought Singed vs Teemo is bad wait until you try this one)

I'd rather lane against unkillable tanks all day than lane against AP tops

I actually haven't laned against any of those four except for one Gragas all season (though, Gragas and Akali are melee).
I don't have an issue with them being AP, but more to the fact that they're ranged. I don't want top turning into a ranged-lane because there's enough lanes for ranged already as it is...

Vulf wrote:

Yep ranged top (Ryze, Kennen, and Jayce) are coming back thanks to nerfs to items. Time to quit top lane again because that shit is frustrating.

lol it's better than shyvana mundo renekton every time

Kanye West wrote:

lol it's better than shyvana mundo renekton every time

No it's not.

If you are playing ranged against them then maybe. Playing a melee champion against any of those 3 is one of the most frustrating lanes because you get harassed to shit for the first 10 minutes of the game. The difference between Shyvana, Mundo, and Renekton (to an extent) is that they are boring to play against so there is a pretty significant difference there. I'd take boring over frustrating any day of the week.

The only good thing that will come out of Ryze, Jayce and Kennen being played top every game is that they will get nerfed again which I have no problem with at all.

Oh, so now you actually have to think about successful trading and being more reliant on jungler ganks and stuff like that, it's almost like you have to use your brain in top lane for once

That is, if you have a way to successfully trade. If all you're forced to do is sit under tower and pray someone ganks a Jayce who's in your face without a ward, that's not very fun.

BrokenArrow wrote:

Oh, so now you actually have to think about successful trading and being more reliant on jungler ganks and stuff like that, it's almost like you have to use your brain in top lane for once

What?

You do realize that ranged can do all of that with even less thought while being even more safe from melee and jungle ganks. Ryze is kind of the only exception here, but he builds tanky to make up for it.

Fact of the matter it's not fun to play against.