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Thank you very much for the modlZenxl wrote:
From Zenx' Mod Queue
I also noticed you called other modders at the same time, this will cause clash in the mods, you will end up fixing less errors.
- Most of these are suggestions, don't follow them all the way through
Timing Check
Offset
No Problems
BPM
No ProblemsExtraNote Placement
No Misplaced Notes
Overmapping
No Overmapping
Note Count
00:49:980 (49980|5,50055|4,50129|2,50129|5,50203|4,50277|0,50277|3,50277|1,50352|4,50426|3,50426|6,50500|5,50500|2,50574|6,50574|3,50649|2,50649|5,50723|4,50723|3,50723|1,50797|2,50797|5,50871|4,50871|1,50946|0,50946|5,51020|1,51020|6,51020|3,51094|5,51094|0,51094|4) - I don't get why the 2nd stream started? If you are mapping toward the 2nd low-pitched instrument, it should start here 00:49:980
I was mainly mapping the synth on the streams. No change.
00:51:020 (51020|3,51020|6,51020|1,51094|4,51094|0,51094|5) - Why 3 notes? I don't see the need for an extra 2 notes here, change them to 2 note chords
Continuing with the previous stream, + the normal note and the clap sound.
00:55:772 (55772|6,55772|3,55772|2,55847|5,55847|4,55847|1) - If you are using 3 notes for claps, 00:55:624 (55624|6,55624|2) - This should use 3 notes, add one at 00:55:624
No, I am not using three notes for claps, but I forgot the clap on 00:55:624. Added!
01:00:599 - Should have 2 notes, however, due to the odd number of columns, I guess this should be acceptable
01:05:426 - Why the sliders? You are basically using chords for no reason there o_o - I guess it's okay since BATs don't really care about the note count
There was the low-humming synth sound here.
02:08:099 (128099|3,128248|3) - Remove, I don't get the 3 note emphasis here, removing the space bar also removes the right hand bias ( People who press the space bar with their right hand )
I was going consistent with the 2 note for the drum, and the spacebar for the clap. No change.
02:08:099 (128099|3,128248|3,133891|3,135079|0) - What are these chords emphasizing?
The first two are the claps, the last 2 you specified are the end-lead for the synth
02:08:396 to 02:24:881 - Sure it's fun to play but, I don't get the usage for the LNs 80% of the time here, I seriously can't find any pattern here, leave it if you think it's okay
To me, they are obviously the vocals and the synth. I'm not sure if other people could figure it out on the go, but they shouldn't be able to play this diff if they can't differentiate it.
Inconsistent note counts on the choruses, weird LN placing that seems to emphasize on drums and claps?
- Awkward appearance of a chord in the middle of LNs
- Still can be ranked though, there's no ranking criteria that says you can't use LNs on drums >_>
The only time I used LN for the drums is on the first part, but thank you for checking these out.
Recheck
01:23:842 (83842|4,83990|3,84139|2,84287|0) - 2 note chords aren't really needed for the emphasis there
Those long holds are mapped to the synths.
01:02:753 (62753|3,83842|2,83990|2,84139|4,84287|4) - If you are emphasizing the background electronic instrument, either remove these or remove
They are mapped to the drum sounds. No change.
03:50:426 (230426|4,230426|2,230426|1) - I don't get the need for 3 notes here, reduce to 1 since there are no instruments
Whoops, removed 1 note and added hitsounds to the other 2.
SV Check
.5x speed for streams is just overkill, there's too many notes for the section that will confuse the player, leave it if you want to have this a very challenging map, this will reduce the fun of it though in my opinion.
I would need more opinions on this one, but thanks for the feedback. Those people who has no experience on slowdowns would surely find this extremely hard, but by how much I still have no idea.
Kiai Time Check
None? I don't really see the need for a Kiai section; My chain de/struction got ranked without one.
Pattern Check
Painfully awkward patterns to play >_> ( Ignore this if you want this to be challenging but not fun )
01:39:139 (99139|0,99213|2,99287|0) - Awkward to press with the slider in the way
They feel natural to me. No change; but I will consider when others point it out too.
02:48:198 (168198|6,168272|6,168347|6,168421|6,168495|6,168569|6,168644|6,168718|6) - Right hand bias? Compared to 02:53:842 (173842|0,173916|0,173990|0,174065|0), which has 4 notes hammer
I have no choice. Actually I have -- I can put them in spacebar but that is a bit hard at this bpm even for me ;_;
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00:41:664 (41664|2,42258|4,42852|6) - Ending LNs on a blue line is just awkward to get 300g, besides, there's no significance to end there, it is also an Overmap ( Can't consider end of LNs as overmap in standard, however mania needs accuracy on ending the slider for 300g, thus the end of a slider is as equally important as the start )
00:46:416 (46416|1,47010|3) - ^
B-but I'm following the music here ;_; It feels very awkward for me to put the hold ends at the white ticks when the instrument that it follows doesn't. I think people aren't exposed to these kind of patterns yet anyway, thus the difficulty.
Overmapping
00:21:466 (21466|4,21466|5,21466|2,21466|1) - 4 notes on a low volume electronic instrument is a complete overmap
They are mapped to the drums, but I removed 2 notes since it's overmapped in a different sense though.
01:00:079 (60079|5,60154|1,60228|5,60302|1,60376|5,60451|1,60525|5,60599|1) - No instruments?
I have the freedom to add them
01:17:530 (77530|1,78124|5) - No Vocals
Same as above; I added whistles here.
01:17:456 (77456|0) - ^
02:07:802 (127802|4,127876|2,127951|4,128025|2,128099|4,128173|2,128248|4,128322|2) - No instruments
03:50:797 (230797|5,231391|1) - No Vocals
Note Count
01:09:584 (69584|3,69584|0,69584|2,69881|2,69881|0,69881|4,69881|6) - I hear claps for both chords and a vocal for the second chord thus having 3 and 4 notes respectively, however, 01:09:733 (69733|3,69733|0,69733|6,69733|2) - doesn't seem to have the significance for 4 notes, use 3 instead
I was following through with the whistles I have added before. 2 notes for emphasis on drums, +1 clap, +1 whistle.
01:25:772 (85772|6,85772|4) - Why a 2 note chord?
The other one was for the whistle. It was there all through out, transferring to the left column after a few beats.
01:26:292 (86292|1,86367|2,86441|1) - I don't get the significance for these 3 notes
Drums + whistles.
Hit-Sound Check
No Problems
SV Check
.5x SV is more overkill on Insane, I can't even pass 5 seconds of it due to the awkward 1/4 streams and slow speed, they just conflict each other, this broken stair pattern is hard enough for 1x SV, most people will definitely miss if they are new to this pattern, having .5x will just not let them play past this section at all.
Will again wait for other opinions on this one. Thank you.
Pattern Check
Right hand bias again : 00:32:753 (32753|0,32827|1,32901|0,32975|1,33050|0,33124|1,33198|2) - Uses less trills on the ring and index while 00:34:832 (34832|6,34906|5,34980|6,35055|5,35129|6,35203|5,35277|6,35352|5,35426|6,35500|5,35574|4) - Uses more
I, again, have no choice in this matter.The notes themselves were panned to the left and right side accordingly, I just matched the music.
Right hand bias : 00:37:505 (37505|0,37579|1,37654|0,37728|1,37802|0,37876|1,37951|2) - and 00:39:881 (39881|6,39956|5,40030|6,40104|5,40178|6,40253|5,40327|6,40401|5,40475|6) -
^
A ton of unneeded Shield notes, I don't get the significance of those, shield notes are to create the same feeling as hammer notes, it is just that it is easier to execute, having shield notes randomly around the song is just weird to play
I didn't put any shield notes here... or at least for me I think there isn't. There's a long enough gap for the player to press it. It's fundamentally a consecutive of eight notes. Unless I accidentally put one on a sixteenth before a hold.
Not going to mod hard too much, feeling pretty lazy at this point listening to a 4 minute song
Same thing as the other SV checks, it is OVERKILL, I can barely pass the section on hard. >_> seems like I can't even enjoy the song without trying hard to pass a section that was supposed to be easy for me, raise the SV for both Insane and hard to 0.7 and 0.9 respectively if you want this to be fun but not challenging.
I will be waiting for other's opinion on this.
Thank you very much for the mod![Shi-Ra] wrote:
Hello Entozer, there are mods for your notechart ^w^
Shi-Ra's Patterns Review:
(notice that columns are following like 0 1 2 3 4 5 6)
HardInside :3Mostly these patterns are good, but there are uncomfortable moments:
00:08:248 (8248|6) - I can't understand placing here two notes in a row, there's no any identical sounds, so I suggest you to move this note to 5th column here, it'll be good transition for your next going pattern and wouldn't ruin it
! This is good. Changed.
00:21:317 - why there's no even single note? here goes suitable sound for it according to the song, so you can add one more note to 3rd column here and 00:21:466 - add here one more chord coz it's correct ending of this part, check that
Thank you. Added.
00:34:089 (34089|4) - I suggest you to move this note to 2nd column, it's more comfortable to catch it in such position and also you can make more hand-balanced pattern with it
I'm... having second thoughts. ;_; changed for now.
00:41:292 (41292|1) - hm...this note feels unnecessary here coz there's no suitable sound for triplet, it'll not ruin your pattern here if you delete it but it'll be more comfortable to play
That note is for the 'claps'. Added hitsound.
00:58:891 - how about > this < or > this < pattern here? I think you should make this pattern more symmetrical to accent it before next going break it's suitable with your previous patterns too
Changed to first suggestion.
01:17:159 - I think one note here is not enough to accent this part so I recommend you to add one additional note to 5th column here to accent chord ending correctly
Added! Thanks. Changed hitsound to soft finish too.
01:35:797 - you can add one more note here according to the music and perform triplet here with notes in 2nd>3rd>4th columns or same
I missed that note. Thank you. Added
01:55:178 (115178|5) - I suggest you to move this note to 4th column according to you bass kick sound column here, it'll be more correctly
Changed. Thank you. I also changed 01:57:555 (117555|4) -
02:24:733 - there's correct ending of this part, to accent it you can add one more chord here with notes in 1st and 5th column, it'll be comfortable to play after your previous LN pattern
Added!, but on 02:24:881 -
03:14:188 - the final pattern here is uncomfortable a little, I recommend you to re-arrange it in this way according to your previous chord triplets
Hm... changed. I agree the final pattern is a bit bad and yours is better, but I think there's still something missing.
03:50:426 - missed sound again, there goes one more back beat sound and I think you should accent it with one note or better add chord here with notes in 2nd and 4th columns to end this part correctly
!! Added. Thank you.
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InsaneInside :3Hmmm, I see that it's new diff, coz I didn't saw it in your mapset previously, let's check it:
00:01:268 (1268|0,1565|0,1862|0) - I suggest you to use Drum Whistle HS here, it'll be more suitable with the song coz claps are sounds awkward with hi-hat x.x
Changed. I was hoping it was fine
From 00:22:505 to 00:31:416 - I see your intention here to follow rhythm with double notes in 0 and 6th columns but I recommend you to change beat columns more often (every tact I think), it'll be more exciting for player
Hmm... I will change soon, but not now. I am still thinking about it.
00:34:906 (34906|5,35055|5) - move two these notes to 4th column, it would not ruin your trills here but it'll make them more different according to different sounds in it, it's well-suitable with your pattern here too, check that
! Changed, but I think there's still something missing.
00:39:956 (39956|5,40104|5) - same suggestion and reason as above, make your patterns more different like in other parts of your chart
Sorry, no change here >< I will think about it.
00:53:470 (53470|3) - position of this note is uncomfortable a little before next going stream here, maybe you move it to 5th column and perform correct stair stream here? it'll be more comfortable transition I think
Hm.. I'm not sure what you meant by correct stair stream, but I followed your suggestion. Changed.
01:39:510 (99510|1) - this note is unnecessary here coz there's no suitable sound for it, I suggest you to delete it, this part will be better without such triplet, check that
Sorry, no change >< There are 3 drum notes here. I missed it in hard diff. I'm going to add it in hard.
01:39:436 (99436|2) - if you've followed my previous suggestion, you can move this note to 1st column to fill empty place correctly and finish your pattern here in this way
From 01:49:386 to 01:58:743 - like in the beginning part, I think you need to switch beat columns more often, at least every two tacts here, it'll make nice effect of balanced beat between hands
Will change soon~
02:31:862 and 02:32:010 - feels like there are two missed sounds before your LN pattern here, I recommend you to fill them with in this way
Added! Thanks.
02:44:114 (164114|5) - this triplet note looks like shield note here, it's uncomfortable, I suggest you to move it to 3rd column or even 2nd column, it'll be easier to catch it there
Sorry, no change. Your idea is fine but it does not have the same effect as before.
03:42:555 (222555|3,222703|3) - I think you should move these notes to 2nd column and make here hand-balanced pattern coz now most notes a concentrated on right hand and it's really uncomfortable, check that
Sorry, no change >< If I changed this, I would have to change the one in the first part too because It's only a copy-pasted mirror of it.
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ExtraInside :3And finally this diff. I can say that it's well-mapped and hard enough without any overmapping (it's surprise for me for last time).I've found only some issues here:
00:28:743 (28743|6) - I see your intention here to follow the beat but I recommend you to move this note to 5th column, it'll be more comfortable to catch this note according to your previous and next going pattern, it wouldn't ruin it but makes this part better
I guess it is odd because it's the only that does a double tap. Changed! Thank you.
00:37:802 (37802|4,38099|3) - these notes goes like shield notes and it's uncomfortable to catch them after previous LNs so I suggest you to move these notes to 5th and 4th columns accordingly to make more balanced and comfortable to play pattern here
Sorry, no change >< I think it is fine right now. I might change if there are more opinions in this particular note, but I changed the note at 00:35:277 - (I thought you were pertaining to it at first )
00:55:327 - this chord stream is uncomfortable coz of last three note chords, they are stuck in each other, I think you should re-arrange this pattern like that or same, it'll be more comfortable transition with saving note count, check it
A very standard stream : x But it is a good suggestion. I will not change it for now though. If someone pointed it out again, then I can use your pattern. Thank you.
01:29:188 (89188|6) - I think you need to add one more note here to 1st column and move this note to 5th column to make strong finish for this pattern, one note is not enough to accent such place in Extra diff
Added! Thanks.
01:39:733 (99733|3) - this LN should ends here 01:40:178 - according to the sound, please, check that and finish it correctly
!! This is good. Changed. Thank you.
02:46:119 (166119|4) - move this note to 5th column, there's same sounds like for next going chord so I suggest you to make same note placement, it'll be comfortable to play with your previous and next going patterns too
Good suggestion. Thank you.
02:48:198 - I think there's no need in such hammering coz there are two different sounds, so I recommend you to use at least trill here, it'll be more suitable with the sounds which are goes there
;_; you are right, there are two different sounds. Changed against my will ;_;
03:46:416 (226416|6) - uncomfortable position for this note coz of LN pattern, I suggest you to move it to another column, to 1st column for example, it'll be more comfortable to catch it according to the beat
Changed! Thank you.
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GeneralInside :3Kiai: why there's no kiai sections even for choruses? They can be really useful there. According to Ranking Criteria you should have them, but in some new charts including your I didn't see any kiai section o.o I think you need kiai sections especially for good HSed chart coz they are makes your map better with accenting some parts in it. I suggest you to use next sections:
1st: from 01:00:673 to 01:17:159 - first chorus
2nd: from 02:08:396 to 02:24:584 - second chorus
3rd: from 03:33:941 to 03:50:277 - last chorus
4th (optionally): from 04:02:456 to 04:09:584 - ending section
I guess I can follow these because I am doing something different in this map. I will add later (or soon)
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Mapset: according to Ranking Criteria you need at least one more NM diff in your mapset or EZ+NM - it'll be better. If you don't mind I can help you with that and make EZ+NM hitsounded charts.
That would be really nice! To be honest I am already running out of ideas for EZ/NM. I feel like it would be boring or bad if I make it. You can make it short if you want and end it at 02:25:030 - like in val's easier diff in his map (the inspiration for this)
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There's no problems with hitsounding in all mapset, all HSs are correct! It's awesome!
:) Thank you very much!
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SV changes: there's a problem with reading patterns from 03:14:931 to 03:33:941 - many players can't read that and I think it'll be main problem in this chart. I suggest you to increase SV here by 0.2-0.4 it'll be more comfortable to read streams especially for Insane and Extra diffs.
I will change it soon. I will wait for another person to point it out though >< Thank you.
Awwwesome chart! Wanna see more mania charts like that \o/
Good luck :3/
Reikosaka wrote:
[General]
- Volume too loud , make it to 50%
- Background need to change, quality seems bad
- i didn't like Chiptune ._.
- seriously some pattern position are monotone (pressing at same column again and again)
[Hard]
00:02:307 (2307|2) - move to 2nd
00:11:218 (11218|5,11367|5) - mirror ! Changed. Thanks
00:14:188 (14188|2) - move to 4th
00:55:847 (55847|1) - move to 5th
00:57:406 (57406|3) - move to 3rd No change in some of the notes, sorry. The pattern will become inconsistent.
01:06:020 (66020|2) - move to 2nd
01:13:297 (73297|2) - move to 2nd
01:15:079 (75079|4) - move to 6th
01:16:268 (76268|2) - move to 6th
01:24:584 - 01:24:733 - 01:24:881 - add note I added something, but not exactly what you suggested. Thank you for pointing that part out.
01:45:376 (105376|0) - move to 5th
01:54:733 (114733|1) - move 1st
02:05:055 (125055|3) - i don't recommend to put this note because the beat sound is little (some people didn't notice due this little sound) , as i see you're making chart following main beat B-but I can hear it clearly... no change for now.
02:08:396 - when i play at this time, i didn't notice if this section following beat, instead feel kinda like vocal so "add note" will be enjoyableSPOILERDid not add, I'm very sorry x_x I was only following the synth here.02:09:436 - add note
02:10:624 - add note
02:11:812 - add note
02:14:040 - add note
02:15:228 - add note
02:16:119 - add note
02:18:050 - add note
02:19:238 - add note
02:20:426 - add note
02:23:545 - add note
02:24:733 - add note
02:49:238 (169238|5) - move to 3rd Changed. Thank you. It was the only note like that in this section.
02:55:995 (175995|0) - move to 6th
02:56:589 (176589|6) - move to 2nd
03:05:129 (185129|6) - delete Deleted one note. thank you.
- supporting off-beat (1/2)
04:02:901 - add note
04:04:089 - add note
04:05:277 - add note
04:07:208 - add note in 1/1 with clap ?
04:09:584 - re-arrange some, why at same column ?
04:11:812 (251812|2) - change to LN ? Changed, Thank you.
[Insane]
00:16:713 - re-arrange some note ?
00:22:802 - 00:31:565 - 2nd , 4th , 6th note is gone x_x
00:44:040 (44040|2) - release and press again 00:44:411 (44411|2) - is not good idea i think (i mean too fast if release then press again)
00:47:010 (47010|3,47456|3) - ^
00:52:951 (52951|4,53173|4) - ^
00:55:253 (55253|0) - move to somewhere that can be more easy to press
00:55:921 - 01:00:079 - where's 1st , 3rd , 5th , 7th ?
01:25:698 (85698|0) - move
01:28:074 (88074|1) - move
01:49:386 - 01:58:743 - 2nd , 4th , 6th note is gone x_x I'm not sure if if I should change it yet. Still thinking of something.
02:27:258 - 02:29:634 - spread them x_x
No change in Insane, but thank you for modding it.
Thank you very much, and sorry for the trouble making you post here.QQQK wrote:
[Hard]I can hear what it follows pretty well though. I'll have to see more feedback about this I guess.
- 02:08:396 - I'm having a really hard time determining which instrument these LNs are supposed to follow. I've repeated the part at least a dozen times now, and I'm still coming up with nothing. I'm probably missing something completely obvious, but in the case I'm not, keep in mind that players shouldn't be playing detective just to figure out your patterns and which notes correspond to which instruments.
[Extra]Also, I don't find [Shi-Ra]'s Fuman difficulty "easy" at all. It's at least a Normal. That is, in order to properly play it, the player should be pretty familiar with the finger-note coordination, as well as some basic patterns - skills I would not expect from a newcomer in osu!mania. I suggest you either scale this difficulty up, or add a new Beginner difficulty.
- 00:11:961 - Missing a note here. Added
- 00:11:961 and 00:14:337 should have symmetrical patterns. Done~ Hopefully that's what you mean.
- 00:16:713 - The patterns here look pretty loaded on each hand. Might look and play better if it was spread out to both hands.
- 00:29:040 - Missing an LN here.
- 00:41:664 - Are the 1/4 gaps between LNs there on purpose? Just looks... bad IMO. I was faithfully following the instrument.
- 00:48:495 - Overmapped...? Some of these notes don't even have hitsounds. I can kinda hear the instrument behind these notes, but is it really necessary to layer stairs and percussion notes?
Added a Beginner.
I should have done this before. Will change soon. Thank you!~lZenxl wrote:
No kd I think you should have a consistent naming system
EZ | NM | HD | MX | SHD
or
Easy | Normal | Hard | Insane | Extra
GL o/
Only use the Source field if the song comes from or was made famous by a video game, movie, or series. Website names are not an acceptable Artist nor Source.No need to put "Vocaloid" as the source. Put it in tags instead.
Noted.ZXCV wrote:
Hey. Just a few more things. No kds.
According to the general ranking criteria for metadata:Only use the Source field if the song comes from or was made famous by a video game, movie, or series. Website names are not an acceptable Artist nor Source.No need to put "Vocaloid" as the source. Put it in tags instead.
Also, all the sites I've seen list the composer as "Famirock-P".
ljqandylee wrote:
Hi Ento~ Here's my suggestion~
[General]
- The HP and OD of Shi-Ra's diffs are very low, while your Beginner diff has a higher HP and OD than them. You'd better change either side to make all diffs seem reasonable XD I will change Beginner's OD/HP xD Thank you.
- Put off the useless greenlines in Shi-Ra's Easy and Normal diffs that are after their mapped time. Removed~
- Move preview time to 01:00:079 would be better, since Beginner diff isn't mapped so faraway. Changed~
[Extra]
00:45:005 and 00:45:079 - The sound you're following also exists here, add notes?
The synths...? But I cannot hear anything... I'm not sure what you mean >< I did not add anything yet.
01:00:079 ~ 01:00:673 - The hitsound is too loud imo, it totally robs the place of song itself. Put down a bit would be better.
Lowered to 33%, same for the next instance of this.
01:47:381 - 01:47:456 - 01:47:530 - Add notes like this?
Same as above...
01:48:421 - Add note><
02:36:837 - Add note, missing the sound
Added! Thank you.
04:09:584 ~ 04:11:812 - Put down hitsound volume, the song is very weak here and the soft hitsound is quite strange. This suggestion applys to all diffs.
Lowered to 30%
[Insane]
04:07:134 - Missing note
!! Thank you. Added.
[Hard]
02:36:614 ~ 02:36:837 - Add a stair here?
! Added, Thanks.
02:45:970 - Add a note would be better, or also add at 02:46:045.
I added both. Thanks!
[Beginner]
00:34:832 - Add a note and let the LN start from 00:35:129 to fit the sound.
Ohh... This is amazing >< thank you.
01:19:535 - Add note(s) as finish, it's not proper to end your chart at 01:17:159 imo. Also you may also add a note at 01:19:386.
I added them. Thank you!
Hmm... Some of the recently ranked maps use "xxxx-P", while others use "xxxxP". Does the format really make that much of a difference?Roxas wrote:
Before ljq will recheck (if he will), you should change the artist with "FamirockP" since it's wrote like this :v
This one actually didn't fix?Entozer wrote:
ljqandylee wrote:
Hi Ento~ Here's my suggestion~
[Insane]
04:07:134 - Missing note
!! Thank you. Added.
ljqandylee wrote:
This one actually didn't fix?
Kudosu'd because ofReikosaka wrote:
the right answer is " ファミロックP" romanized "famirockP"
Kudosu for titleRoxas wrote:
From this site (thanks to lolcubes) the artist name is ファミロックP (add it in Artist and add FamiRockP in romanised artist) and the title is 鬼彼女 (Oni Kanojo romanised), add them in every diff \o\
- R u m i a - wrote:
ETozer
victorica_db wrote:
- R u m i a - wrote:
ETozer