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Newbie #9 - Knock! Knock! Knock! (Game End)

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That is a blatant lie

@rEdo, why would you buddy in past games, but only change now that habit? I can imagine you have been called out on this before. Why make this change NOW?

like I said, I haven't heard a word from kook yet, and this is where I ask you the same question - please give me a reason why you aren't scum. that whole accusiation just pings me even harder that you've got potential to be scum. I could also browse through your ISO thoroughly, but you just popped out of nowhere and picked a person which changed his opinions more than everybody else, which places me in a worse spot as a townie just in order to get an easy lynch today.
Me thinking you are scum does not make me scum. I've already called out the most active player (Sakura) on shit and will continue to do so, since everyone else but Caligno seems unwilling to do so. I posted the ISO on you because you stood out the most as the most obvious scum. The Sakura thing came later when I asked myself who would be your most likely partner. My posts have been spur of the moment and honest in my own estimation, although I can see if you have trouble seeing that I am being honest with calling you scum! I also apparently didn't fail whatever test Sakura was doing. I've explained most of my thoughts regarding lynches and on who I believe scum to be and have backed them up with evidence.

Am I missing anything?[/quote]

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rEdo
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no, scratch it, I actually missed that one paragraph where you reply. still, I ain't gonna be a scapegoat for you.
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^ yeah, I just noticed that
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It's fine i've missed things this game before
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Quotes wrote:

@rEdo, why would you buddy in past games, but only change now that habit? I can imagine you have been called out on this before. Why make this change NOW?
I didn't necessarily change the habit of buddying since I tagged along Sakura in Irreversible's case.
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@redo, so to clarify, you find me scummy because I wanted people to focus on you and Sakura?

I did this because hardly anyone else had done so beforehand. It would be ignorant and anti-town for me not to put pressure on a. a strong scum suspect (you) and b. the most talkative and controlling townie who hadnt had too much pressure all game (although I could have done much better, Sakura)
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rEdo wrote:

Quotes wrote:

@rEdo, why would you buddy in past games, but only change now that habit? I can imagine you have been called out on this before. Why make this change NOW?
I didn't necessarily change the habit of buddying since I tagged along Sakura in Irreversible's case.
I was referring to where you said "but I won't do it anymore," not to what you did beforehand.
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Quotes wrote:

@redo, so to clarify, you find me scummy because I wanted people to focus on you and Sakura?
providing you're scum, that would be a really comfortable play for you to start accusing people right off the bat when you get into the game in like the 18th page where your predecessor hasn't said virtually anything, and nobody really has any argument to use against you yet, even though kook was considered scummy before.
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Quotes wrote:

I was referring to where you said "but I won't do it anymore," not to what you did beforehand.
people tend to bitch about that in my every game, and I grew tired of it. >_>"
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It's proactive town play to come in accusing people of being scum. I am a fresh face and from a first glance, I had ascertained that you were my top scum suspect (and had received very little attention before) and that Sakura was essentially leading most of the topics of discussion. There is no reason for me not to come in and accuse people of being scum. That's what you're supposed to do to find mafia. - you pressure people and you make sure that everyone receives some pressure that you can use later on. Day 1 is by far the most important day of mafia imo, so using the little amount of time that I had in day 1 effectively was a priority. I'm recognizing now from Sakura and Caligno's posts that my play may not have been ideal but I still very much stand by the motivations for pressing you and Sakura, and I still fail to see how my focus on you two as a scumteam was inherently scummy, although Sakura's point about playing it more passively and asking for interactions between the two of you may have been better. Then again, given Sakura's and your incredibly limited direct interaction, perhaps not.
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As it is a new page,

I AM AT L-1. PLEASE HOLD OFF ON VOTING FOR ME, EVEN IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO DO SO.

We still have a reasonable amount of time left in the day so we should use as much of it as humanly possible.

I'll be back in like 30 minutes.
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If it approves that you're scum i'm going to vote caligno next, because you always are talking super suspciously good about him, which is not a good idea imo.

and wtf, that escalated quickly. quotes it seems like you're panicking right now? for my question: currently, i think both are town. but as I said, it depends what happens next.

Quotes, give me some exact reason why I should think you're town
rEdo
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>it's proactive town play
and having that in mind and getting a scum role after kook, you decided to blatantly push a person that seemed most scummy (except from your scum partner) just to get an easy lynch on a townie.

that should do for today. I'm seriously way too tired to talk for now, especially that you're going afk now, I shall take my leave to bed (goddamn quarter past midnight and I have to wake up at six) x.x"
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I'm ok with a Quotes lynch, he went like panicking after rEdo's vote and kook was scummy already, if he's scum, gg; if he's town, I'm leaning for Irre or rEdo.

Also, I'm willing to hammer Quotes.

@Irre: can you explain further on why you will vote Caligno if Quotes is scum? Why didn't you stick with your actual vote on Caligno and jumped on Quotes' wagon?

Irre's posts are calling my attention lately.

Irreversible wrote:

Unvote

Alright Caligno, your activity increased, and currently there's no sense to leave the vote on you. What bothers me though that you mostly say 'this is wrong, you've thought about that wrong' etc.
How do you vote people based merely on activity and then unvoting when he started posting again?

If Quotes is scum, then he's likely town due Quotes' empty vote on him.

@Quotes: would you share your reads with us?
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Dake obvtown
Caligno probtown
Jinxy probtown
Royston lean town
Saki idk
Sakura idk
Irreversible probscum
Redo very probscum
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That was quick, why I'm obvious town?
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was this just a statement that you're definetly scum quotes? Dake joins the game, you want him to be your friend, this seems odd to me.
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@dake, i'll explain it tomorrow because i'm sleepy now, and i'm going to sleep
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No he's been my top town read all game. I lost my last post with 15 reasons why I am town hold up
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If people hasnt focused on us, there must be a reason, I do thank you for showing me the fishy behavior rEdo had been doing because I was missing it (I'm a sucker for buddying)
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Irreversible wrote:

If it approves that you're scum i'm going to vote caligno next, because you always are talking super suspciously good about him, which is not a good idea imo.

and wtf, that escalated quickly. quotes it seems like you're panicking right now? for my question: currently, i think both are town. but as I said, it depends what happens next.

Quotes, give me some exact reason why I should think you're town
Fair and accurate ISo of a scummy player with 0 complaints from anyone, including little to no answer or justification from the player that I iso'd.

Pressure on scummy to neutral players, especially in the case of redo. I don't think there had been any discussion of the possibility of redo scum before my bringing it up, and the other players I've pressured or attempted to pressure have all been fairly scummy.

Willingness to admit that my initial reads on Sakura were weak without Sakura or anyone else directly refuting any of them to my knowledge. It was in towns best interest that I explain that while my initial read on Sakura was justified, it was not very strong and not worth lynching over.

Continuing to attempt to scum hunt and be pro town even with votes on me. I still very much want an answer to the question that you keep fucking ignoring irreversible. I would rant here about how utterly moronic you are being in your refusal to share information that can help you look less scummy but that is not supposed to be the purpose of this post.

Quick, non agonized responses to questions on why I did what I did and what my motivations for doing so were. I have not had to come up with stupid lies for what I'm doing because I am not lying. Look at how quick my responses to most questions of me is for some indication.

None of the pressure on me deals with the motivations behind why I'm posting as I am. I have been trying to find scum all game and to take charge in doing so. Calignos point is that my questions were loaded. I immediately agreed with this, because that was the point. Sakura followed for the prior move of grouping her with redo and thinking this was a scum tactic for an easy 2nd mislynch. I still find this logic flawed since it assumes that this is a primary factor in a lynch vote which it should not be and I pointed again to my backing off of formal suspicion of her. She then felt even stronger in her opinion when I voted irreversible for being stupid (don't care it is stupid). After her point on how votes should be reserved for top suspects I backed off and votes my top suspect.

My views have been fairly consistent, outside of arguably the irreversible vote. But he blatantly was ignoring my posts, as is evidenced by his post about "that's a lot of pressure why don't you vote" when I had done so long before. I tended to agree with caligno that the backing off by redo on irreversible was suspicious. (Even now all redo had said is "his responses were probtown" without explaining why)

I'm sure there are more reasons
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Irreversible wrote:

was this just a statement that you're definetly scum quotes? Dake joins the game, you want him to be your friend, this seems odd to me.
Circumstantial, I legitimately thought he was the most town player. I know I can't really prove that though
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Sakura wrote:

If people hasnt focused on us, there must be a reason, I do thank you for showing me the fishy behavior rEdo had been doing because I was missing it (I'm a sucker for buddying)
Because players not named calignobot are scared of you and you as the person leading discussions had said nothing about redo
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Deadline is around 22 hours.
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Someone should be declaring intent soon so Quotes claims and we have enough time to analyze the claim guys.
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Dake declared intent and willingness to hammer.

Still don't see how I'm a lynch target at all tbh, especially ahead of either redo or irreversible. This is my 4th time trying to post this so I'm not going to get into the reasons why both of them are better targets because it should be fairly apparent in my past posts, as well as in their only joining a bandwagon on me when reasonably strong players had done so before them. I've already explained why everything I've done has been in the villages interest. I don't understand why no one seems to get that
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If he declared intent then if you're town, you should be claiming your role and give us your reads list so we can analyze it.

If you're scum you can continue to die <3
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Oh you already gave your reads, that's what i get for skimming the last page due to work *re-reads*
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So yeah, just claim your role so we know whether you're a PR or not and in case of a PR we know which, if anyone CCs your claim then we get a conf scum if you flip town after all, and if no one CCs your claim then you live.
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I don't get why I am forced to claim when people should be removing their votes regardless

I'm cop

I played aggro as fuck toget people to forget about kooks really obvious pr bleed
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Yeah it does make sense with the PR slip from kook, but see I was right about the Inside Information.

Oh well

Vote: rEdo

Obvious reasons, if someone is either Cop, Tracker, 1 shot bp or Jailkeeper claim now because you cannot exist together with Quotes role and we get a confirmed scum.

And if you didnt want to claim because of your predecessor's PR slip, scum knows who they are and would remember your predecessor's PR slip anyways, so you were condemned during the night already, oh the plus side if there's a doctor they might protect you tonight, but that would mean they have a RB and you'd pretty much be a named townie.

Time is running short
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>->

Mod: Where's our votecount? ;_;
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That is sufficient, although stating your role instead of just saying you're a PR helped mafia more than town.

Unvote: Quotes
Vote: rEdo
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i thik redo is at l-1
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Also for any future games you have Quotes. Asking things like "Hey X, what are your thoughts on Y?" IS scummy.
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Not much time left to escape the factory of Little King John. He'll turn you in to either potato knishes, black squash balls or centipedes. This is the current vote count as is.

Votecoount 1.3:

rEdo (4) (L-1) - Jinx, Quotes, Sakura, CalignoBot
Quotes (2) - Irreversible, rEdo
Sakura (1) - SenaSaki

Not Voting: Everyone else...which is like DakeDekaane and Royston.

Prodded Saki and Royston. Far out you guys.
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Jinxy
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I totally voted rEdo somewhere back, jeez

Vote: rEdo again
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Actually, you never voted once before Jinx.

Never. At all. What the hell man?
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Excuse you
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Oh well sorry for not seeing that.

I did look through the ISO on each individual people too.
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Okay fine I'm posting

blah blah walls of text blah blah

And if you didnt want to claim because of your predecessor's PR slip, scum knows who they are and would remember your predecessor's PR slip anyways, so you were condemned during the night already, oh the plus side if there's a doctor they might protect you tonight, but that would mean they have a RB and you'd pretty much be a named townie.
yes, this is true. If we do have a doctor and it's row 2 then it would probably still be best if they do protect Quotes since he's the most likely to be killed. Though I guess they could just roleblock him rather than trying to kill him but even without a night action a semi-confirmed town is still useful

it should go without saying that we shouldn't hammer until everyone's caught up and allow for the opportunity for someone to contradict Quotes' claim
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Alright, i'm back again.

Dake, to answer your question, it would be simple, it seems for me that Quotes want to whiteknight (is this the right word i'm using) Calipso, what seems a bit scumpartnerish to me.

@Sakura: Let's assume Quotes is right, redo is scum, and you are. Aren't you worried if he gets lynched? I'm a bit courious about your handling now, because you switch of to redo. (so you show that you are against him)

reDo, when you said i earned some town points, did you just want to have me on your side so you won't get lynched?

Unvote

I'm confused about the roles again.. can't make any connections I get the matrix 6 thing, but yeah that's basically it :/
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Irreversible wrote:

I'm confused about the roles again.. can't make any connections I get the matrix 6 thing, but yeah that's basically it :/
I just mentioned all possible Counter Claims to the Cop claim, so don't worry, basically if any role is not aligned horizontally or vertically with one they cannot exist together and is a good Counter Claim (or CCing with the exact same role that was claimed)
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So look at it like this

Jailkeeper - Vanilla - Vanilla
Roleblocker - Cop - Doctor
1-shot Bulletproof - Vanilla - Tracker

Cop was claimed, all in red arent directly algined with it, so are Counter Claims, Doctor is in green because it can exist together and it's not a Counter Claim (So if they exist they shouldn't claim, simple)
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ah i remember, quotes said he's cop once didn't he? but why can we trust him?
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No counterclaim, also I dont agree with any counter claim if it's a cop. Right now unless it's rEdo, if a real cop exists, they should hide until tomorrow so they can at least get 1 investigation off. If a JK is the CC they can CC and we get Quotes lynched, if he flips cop lynch the CC tomorrow, otherwise the JK can try an attempt at preventing the NK with his roleblock, Tracker should prob. stay hidden as well. Not sure on the best course of action of a 1 shot BP cc.
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If he's scum, We will get a counter claim either today or tomorrow.

If he's the actual cop, then we got 1 conf town, who will prob. die tonight anyway so why kill him today, if there's a doctor he'll live, but scum has a RB so he's useless, and being useless PR, he's still town and there's no reason for lynch him.

a.k.a our scum pool has reduced so we should be looking at another perspective.
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ah i see .. o_o' so it's not even sure a cop exists right?
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But on the plus side, cop can be cc'd, if cop is a fake claim, its ASSURED that there will be a CC, so if there isn't Quotes is pretty much conftown.
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So yeah if another cop exists, they shouldn't out yet, get an investigation tonight, and out tomorrow, this gives us either a conf town (if they got an innocnet), a conf scum (if they get a guilty) on top of a conf scum (because of the CC).
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The only thing worrying me atm is for the day to end without a hammer.
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Why is that? How many votes does it need to hammer?
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5, and if there's no hammer before deadline, day ends without a lynch
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o_O? I thought the one with the most votes? I'm confused now.
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Are you already voting him?
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He's not voting anyone.
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Rules wrote:

If majority isn't reached, there will be no lynch so you know...
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Vote: reDo

I've read through your posts and the others arguments, and it makes sense actually.
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CalignoBot wrote:

Are you already voting him?
..are you stressed by smth or so? u.u
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Well now we just wait for the mod to post the flip, and send the game into night (i think that was a hammer?), I would say you should've declared intent first but we were running out of time here.
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Also it's normal for days to end without a lynch if no majority is reached, just that for some reason people in here prefer the contrary, lynches give info, and allow for bandwagon analisis after the flip, if someone can be lynched with 1 vote, then that gives no info at all and makes it harder to catch scum, so yeah I agree with that rule.
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Irreversible wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Are you already voting him?
..are you stressed by smth or so? u.u
I'm in a hurry since the deadline is pretty much slapping us on the ass.
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He's already hammered, Irre wasnt voting rEdo on the last votecount so his vote was a hammer.
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I know. I was answering his question.
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how much time was left? oO
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About two hours.
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Sorry, was busy with chess openings. It looks like someone got lynched today, hurrah. Little King John will have tons of fun with this. Also, you should YouTube search for Attack on Ratboy Genius, best OP ever.

Final Votecount for D1:
rEdo (5) (Lynched) - Jinx, Quotes, Sakura, CalignoBot, Irreversible
Quotes (1) - rEdo
Sakura (1) - SenaSaki

Saki will be replaced, probably by Sephibro, hold on while I do the flip.
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rEdo got turned into a potato knish D1. He was a Mafia Goon.

It is now Night 1. You have 24-48 hours because I have to probably get a replacement for Saki. Hurrah.
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On my phone now but I can safely say that Quotes, the Town Cop.
is dead.

You have a week from now. Saki has responded to the pros and will not be replaced. Seriously. I'll update this soon when I have the time.
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That was expected, Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
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Sakura wrote:

That was expected, Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
FoS: Sakura

Vote: Irreversible

This can't be overlooked at all. A quick ISO search pinpoints him as rEdo's partner the hardest. He attacked me (the first person to suspect him) a LOT over the past day and attacked Quotes (the primary pusher of rEdo) pretty hard as well. His only real pressure on rEdo was very halfheartedly done. Plus, as mentioned yesterday, rEdo's interactions with him aren't very innocent either.
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Do you think he would hammered rEdo if he was his partner?
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At that point, he pretty much had no choice. If he willingly didn't hammer and later had rEdo flip scum, that would have made it incredibly obvious he's rEdo's partner.
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Hmm I guess I see your point, I was thinking more on Saki tbh, since rEdo focused on Royston's and kook's inactivity but he ignored Saki completely.
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That's a pretty weak associative tell and Saki's slot is pretty much entirely devoid of content right now. I'll wait until at least a replacement can post some content before coming to a conclusion on it.
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Saki's back tho, so we prob. will get more content from him soon (I Hope)
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Btw what was the FoS for?
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Sakura wrote:

1. That was expected, 2. Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, 3. since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
1. I really can't tell if this is a scumslip or not. Either way, it's a variant of the "damn it" tell, or whatever it's officially called.

2. This sounds really forced. This statement and the one before it sounds more like an attempt to sound town than anything else.

3. Pretty much just stating information.

No scumhunting, votes, aggression of any kind. All there is there is a small amount of info and forced statements.
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1. Actually you may be referring to the "Well that sucks!" tell, or gloating. I expected the death because he was a claimed cop.

2. Well excuse me for being a global scum read and being weak towards people that actually DO town read me.

3. I think that has more analysis than information tbh.

I don't have any major scumreads atm, and you're like the only one around atm to interact with. Also I've already resigned to getting lynched today due to rEdo's buddying anyway =D
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defeatist sakura is usually scum sakura
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Honestly, I don't really think Irre is scum. rEdo pressured him pretty hard while buddying Sakura, and I don't really think his would risk his partner dying if Irre couldn't persuade Sakura. Pretty sure they didn't have daychat to try and plan it out, either.

I know it sounds really simple, but for starters, I'm looking at those who weren't on rEdo's wagon (Sena, Royston, Dake).

Dake posted his intent to hammer Quotes slightly less than 24 hours before D1 ended. He might have just missed Quotes claiming and rEdo's wagon, so I'm null on him.

rEdo's "focus" on Royston was just "he's acting weird", which is null to me. However, Royston did try and call out rEdo dropping suspicion on Irre so suddenly, so that bends Royston a tiny bit towards town for me. Unfortunately, rEdo completely missed or ignored Royston's post so I can't further that train of thought.

Searching "Sena" and "Saki" in rEdo's ISO garnered a grand total of 1 result, and that was rEdo trying to quote me. Essentially, he has said absolutely nothing about Saki and only asked for a prod on Royston, despite Saki being even more inactive than Royston. I also saw Saki once in the "Users browsing this forum:" during her disappearance, but I didn't call that out because I thought she was finally going to post. Which she didn't. All these points are making me feel that Saki is scum.

SenaSaki wrote:

defeatist sakura is usually scum sakura
quality content

Vote: SenaSaki
Quotes_old
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Quotes_old
Bah.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
Solid case.

but I'm just better at lurking than Royston is (I don't go "hey I'm here but I don't have any reads")
actually I just forgot about the game

So I'll have to say an associative tell like that is wrong.

Since the cop flip, it's just as likely that we're looking for a roleblocker as we are looking for a goon.

I'd expect bussing. Heavy bussing, especially in the case of a roleblocker.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
Scratch that.

Since rEdo voted kook > Irreversible > Quotes, the last of which flipped cop, rEdo wasn't bussing.
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki
Oh, and I missed rEdo's Jinxy vote.

Well, going off Jinxy and his distancing case
kook/Jinxy/Quotes/Irre and likely Royston that aren't scumbuddies due to rEdo pushing all of their wagons from time to time

that leaves me, Caligno, Sakura, and Dake.


aaaand I'm stupid and probably should sheep someone.
Amianki
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Joined January 2011
Amianki
The cop dying kind of makes roleblocker close to impossible.
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
tempted to delete previous posts in light of extreme derp

Sakura wrote:

Hmm I guess I see your point, I was thinking more on Saki tbh, since rEdo focused on Royston's and kook's inactivity but he ignored Saki completely.
afaik rEdo was using pointing out inactivity for towncred
kook and Royston were people that called attention onto them "hey guys I'm here"
then proceeded to lurk.
Obvious trajectory of rEdoscum would be to point them out.
Which likely indicates that both of them are not scum.

and me
uh
well
i was forgotten by everyone I don't think I count as distancing
and I'm town anyways

Jinxy/Caligno/Sakura have been protown
so
uh

I guess
all of you are town
kfjdakl;sfaklsf
SeiinaAraki
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SeiinaAraki

CalignoBot wrote:

The cop dying kind of makes roleblocker close to impossible.
I thought the two cop setups was cop/2goon and doc-cop/1rb 1goon
Amianki
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Joined January 2011
Amianki
Yes, and the only way cop would end up dying is if the doctor was roleblocked. That's a huge gamble.
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

CalignoBot wrote:

Yes, and the only way cop would end up dying is if the doctor was roleblocked. That's a huge gamble.
did not consider that
oh well
Sakura
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Sakura
Yeah, scum knew there wasn't a doctor otherwise they wouldn't have shot the claimed cop knowing the likelihood of protect was 95%.

Nice to finally see you posting Saki tho, Royston said he sux D1 let's see if he gets something done D2, so far still leaning for Saki tho

Ah screw it

Vote: SenaSaki

I'd think by now you should have at least someone worth a scumread and a vote.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
the theory holds true

either i push you or you push me

anyways I really can't narrow it down to one scumread.


The "oh rEdo didn't mention Saki" is such a weak scumtell though >_>
rEdo isn't the only one that didn't mention me d1, literally no one did.
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
I'm still reconsidering my scumreads as my top scumspect is Caligno atm and that can't be right.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Reasoning?
DakeDekaane
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DakeDekaane
Just leaving this here.

Sakura wrote:

Hi Saki, wanna 1v1 tunnel here too?

SenaSaki wrote:

"extending RVS is a SCUMTELL!"
uh no 1v1 is bad

cool, Sakura's town

SenaSaki wrote:

scum doesn't want a 1v1 ever
and i doubt scum sakura would buddy up to me

well now that i think about it it might be a fake townslip
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Caligno, this seems more like a panik like omgus. Remember when I always said i'm going to vote you afterwards? This seems to be your answer. But anyways: Here's my vote for you, since you were one of the first who voted Quotes, who is obviously dead now.

Vote: CalignoBot
Sakura
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Sakura
Quotes was scummy in his own right, being the first the vote is meaningless. If voting Quotes were a crime, there were 4 people on that wagon with an intent declared, there's only 2 scum, so by default at least 3 people (incluing dake's intent in there) are town. So it's p.much null.
Sakura
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Sakura
EBWODP: "being the first to vote*
Sakura
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Sakura
@Saki: I show a defeatist attitude because I wouldnt blame it if People want to get me lynched because of rEdo's buddying, I'm weak to buddying which can be seen in a Newbie game I had with Wisdom on MS, where he insta town read me after replacing in, and I townread him because of that, but he was scum in the end and won. I really hate it when scum buddy to me to get me to townread them, and I'm glad Quotes made me see it before it was too late, however it does implicate my slot as well, soooo w/e.

And yeah from now on im gonna be paranoid of anyone that buddies me >_>
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