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Newbie #9 - Knock! Knock! Knock! (Game End)

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Amianki
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Amianki

Sakura wrote:

1. That was expected, 2. Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, 3. since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
1. I really can't tell if this is a scumslip or not. Either way, it's a variant of the "damn it" tell, or whatever it's officially called.

2. This sounds really forced. This statement and the one before it sounds more like an attempt to sound town than anything else.

3. Pretty much just stating information.

No scumhunting, votes, aggression of any kind. All there is there is a small amount of info and forced statements.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
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Sakura
1. Actually you may be referring to the "Well that sucks!" tell, or gloating. I expected the death because he was a claimed cop.

2. Well excuse me for being a global scum read and being weak towards people that actually DO town read me.

3. I think that has more analysis than information tbh.

I don't have any major scumreads atm, and you're like the only one around atm to interact with. Also I've already resigned to getting lynched today due to rEdo's buddying anyway =D
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
defeatist sakura is usually scum sakura
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Honestly, I don't really think Irre is scum. rEdo pressured him pretty hard while buddying Sakura, and I don't really think his would risk his partner dying if Irre couldn't persuade Sakura. Pretty sure they didn't have daychat to try and plan it out, either.

I know it sounds really simple, but for starters, I'm looking at those who weren't on rEdo's wagon (Sena, Royston, Dake).

Dake posted his intent to hammer Quotes slightly less than 24 hours before D1 ended. He might have just missed Quotes claiming and rEdo's wagon, so I'm null on him.

rEdo's "focus" on Royston was just "he's acting weird", which is null to me. However, Royston did try and call out rEdo dropping suspicion on Irre so suddenly, so that bends Royston a tiny bit towards town for me. Unfortunately, rEdo completely missed or ignored Royston's post so I can't further that train of thought.

Searching "Sena" and "Saki" in rEdo's ISO garnered a grand total of 1 result, and that was rEdo trying to quote me. Essentially, he has said absolutely nothing about Saki and only asked for a prod on Royston, despite Saki being even more inactive than Royston. I also saw Saki once in the "Users browsing this forum:" during her disappearance, but I didn't call that out because I thought she was finally going to post. Which she didn't. All these points are making me feel that Saki is scum.

SenaSaki wrote:

defeatist sakura is usually scum sakura
quality content

Vote: SenaSaki
Quotes_old
0 posts
Joined May 2013
Quotes_old
Bah.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
Solid case.

but I'm just better at lurking than Royston is (I don't go "hey I'm here but I don't have any reads")
actually I just forgot about the game

So I'll have to say an associative tell like that is wrong.

Since the cop flip, it's just as likely that we're looking for a roleblocker as we are looking for a goon.

I'd expect bussing. Heavy bussing, especially in the case of a roleblocker.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
Scratch that.

Since rEdo voted kook > Irreversible > Quotes, the last of which flipped cop, rEdo wasn't bussing.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
Oh, and I missed rEdo's Jinxy vote.

Well, going off Jinxy and his distancing case
kook/Jinxy/Quotes/Irre and likely Royston that aren't scumbuddies due to rEdo pushing all of their wagons from time to time

that leaves me, Caligno, Sakura, and Dake.


aaaand I'm stupid and probably should sheep someone.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
The cop dying kind of makes roleblocker close to impossible.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
tempted to delete previous posts in light of extreme derp

Sakura wrote:

Hmm I guess I see your point, I was thinking more on Saki tbh, since rEdo focused on Royston's and kook's inactivity but he ignored Saki completely.
afaik rEdo was using pointing out inactivity for towncred
kook and Royston were people that called attention onto them "hey guys I'm here"
then proceeded to lurk.
Obvious trajectory of rEdoscum would be to point them out.
Which likely indicates that both of them are not scum.

and me
uh
well
i was forgotten by everyone I don't think I count as distancing
and I'm town anyways

Jinxy/Caligno/Sakura have been protown
so
uh

I guess
all of you are town
kfjdakl;sfaklsf
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

CalignoBot wrote:

The cop dying kind of makes roleblocker close to impossible.
I thought the two cop setups was cop/2goon and doc-cop/1rb 1goon
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Yes, and the only way cop would end up dying is if the doctor was roleblocked. That's a huge gamble.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

CalignoBot wrote:

Yes, and the only way cop would end up dying is if the doctor was roleblocked. That's a huge gamble.
did not consider that
oh well
Sakura
osu! Alumni
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Sakura
Yeah, scum knew there wasn't a doctor otherwise they wouldn't have shot the claimed cop knowing the likelihood of protect was 95%.

Nice to finally see you posting Saki tho, Royston said he sux D1 let's see if he gets something done D2, so far still leaning for Saki tho

Ah screw it

Vote: SenaSaki

I'd think by now you should have at least someone worth a scumread and a vote.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
the theory holds true

either i push you or you push me

anyways I really can't narrow it down to one scumread.


The "oh rEdo didn't mention Saki" is such a weak scumtell though >_>
rEdo isn't the only one that didn't mention me d1, literally no one did.
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
I'm still reconsidering my scumreads as my top scumspect is Caligno atm and that can't be right.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Reasoning?
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane
Just leaving this here.

Sakura wrote:

Hi Saki, wanna 1v1 tunnel here too?

SenaSaki wrote:

"extending RVS is a SCUMTELL!"
uh no 1v1 is bad

cool, Sakura's town

SenaSaki wrote:

scum doesn't want a 1v1 ever
and i doubt scum sakura would buddy up to me

well now that i think about it it might be a fake townslip
Irreversible
osu! Alumni
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Irreversible
Caligno, this seems more like a panik like omgus. Remember when I always said i'm going to vote you afterwards? This seems to be your answer. But anyways: Here's my vote for you, since you were one of the first who voted Quotes, who is obviously dead now.

Vote: CalignoBot
Sakura
osu! Alumni
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Sakura
Quotes was scummy in his own right, being the first the vote is meaningless. If voting Quotes were a crime, there were 4 people on that wagon with an intent declared, there's only 2 scum, so by default at least 3 people (incluing dake's intent in there) are town. So it's p.much null.
Sakura
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2010
Sakura
EBWODP: "being the first to vote*
Sakura
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Sakura
@Saki: I show a defeatist attitude because I wouldnt blame it if People want to get me lynched because of rEdo's buddying, I'm weak to buddying which can be seen in a Newbie game I had with Wisdom on MS, where he insta town read me after replacing in, and I townread him because of that, but he was scum in the end and won. I really hate it when scum buddy to me to get me to townread them, and I'm glad Quotes made me see it before it was too late, however it does implicate my slot as well, soooo w/e.

And yeah from now on im gonna be paranoid of anyone that buddies me >_>
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki
I buddy you, sakura
except that you're already paranoid of me since I like to trick you, apparently
does that make you hyperparanoid of me?
SeiinaAraki
4 posts
Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

CalignoBot wrote:

Reasoning?
When I skimmed rEdo's ISO I didn't really note much interaction between you and rEdo despite both of you being fairly active at around the same time.

Dake, point?

vote: Irreversible
that vote
THAT VOTE
it just looks so bad
i mean you explained it and all
but it still looks so bad
Sakura
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Sakura
Unvote
Vote: Royston
Royston
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Joined June 2012
Royston

Sakura wrote:

Royston said he sux D1 let's see if he gets something done D2
nope surprise I suck D2 as well :)))))

I think Caligno is scum though, so I'm going to vote for him

vote: CalignoBot
Sakura
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Sakura

Royston wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Royston said he sux D1 let's see if he gets something done D2
nope surprise I suck D2 as well :)))))

I think Caligno is scum though, so I'm going to vote for him

vote: CalignoBot
Yeah no.

More votes on Royston please.
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
Claim: Vanilla Townie
Sakura
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Sakura

Royston wrote:

Claim: Vanilla Townie
Have i mentioned how scummy you are yet.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Saki what's wrong being active at the same time? Sakura and Caligno and Quotes have been active too, I don't get that Argument.. although i'm going to unvote now, since I sometimes Focus one Person without really thinking about other things.

Unvote
Sakura
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Sakura
You could vote Royston for starters.
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

Irreversible wrote:

Saki what's wrong being active at the same time? Sakura and Caligno and Quotes have been active too, I don't get that Argument.. although i'm going to unvote now, since I sometimes Focus one Person without really thinking about other things.

Unvote
You two were both active at around the same time yet you two did not have much interaction.

Usually being active at the same time means some sort of interaction.
SeiinaAraki
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Joined August 2013
SeiinaAraki

SenaSaki wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

Saki what's wrong being active at the same time? Sakura and Caligno and Quotes have been active too, I don't get that Argument.. although i'm going to unvote now, since I sometimes Focus one Person without really thinking about other things.

Unvote
You two were both active at around the same time yet you two did not have much interaction.

Usually being active at the same time means some sort of interaction.
Them two*
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

Royston wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Royston said he sux D1 let's see if he gets something done D2
nope surprise I suck D2 as well :)))))

I think Caligno is scum though, so I'm going to vote for him

vote: CalignoBot
Your lack of explanation is noted.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
I don't feel well that you always ask me to vote someone.

Vote: Royston

Caligno, you were the one who wanted me to hammer reDo, so don't say ' you were the one who hammered reDo ' -_-
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane
@Saki: the point was that I can interpret it as a slight slip.

Royston, claiming when you only has 1 vote is a sign of nervousness imo, why would you do that? Why do you think Caligno is scum? Why shouldn't I vote for you?
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Saki: the point was that I can interpret it as a slight slip.

Royston, claiming when you only has 1 vote is a sign of nervousness imo, why would you do that? Why do you think Caligno is scum? Why shouldn't I vote for you?
The claim was a joke, there's only vanilla roles left (unless the doctor was very silly or very unlucky)

I voted for Caligno because rEdo ISO seemed to be very passive when talking to him
DakeDekaane
osu! Alumni
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DakeDekaane
If your claim was a joke, are you scum?
Royston
187 posts
Joined June 2012
Royston
no I'm town
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Eh, I don't think Royston is scum.
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