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Newbie #9 - Knock! Knock! Knock! (Game End)

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Lilac
Oh well sorry for not seeing that.

I did look through the ISO on each individual people too.
Royston
Okay fine I'm posting

blah blah walls of text blah blah

And if you didnt want to claim because of your predecessor's PR slip, scum knows who they are and would remember your predecessor's PR slip anyways, so you were condemned during the night already, oh the plus side if there's a doctor they might protect you tonight, but that would mean they have a RB and you'd pretty much be a named townie.
yes, this is true. If we do have a doctor and it's row 2 then it would probably still be best if they do protect Quotes since he's the most likely to be killed. Though I guess they could just roleblock him rather than trying to kill him but even without a night action a semi-confirmed town is still useful

it should go without saying that we shouldn't hammer until everyone's caught up and allow for the opportunity for someone to contradict Quotes' claim
Irreversible
Alright, i'm back again.

Dake, to answer your question, it would be simple, it seems for me that Quotes want to whiteknight (is this the right word i'm using) Calipso, what seems a bit scumpartnerish to me.

@Sakura: Let's assume Quotes is right, redo is scum, and you are. Aren't you worried if he gets lynched? I'm a bit courious about your handling now, because you switch of to redo. (so you show that you are against him)

reDo, when you said i earned some town points, did you just want to have me on your side so you won't get lynched?

Unvote

I'm confused about the roles again.. can't make any connections I get the matrix 6 thing, but yeah that's basically it :/
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

I'm confused about the roles again.. can't make any connections I get the matrix 6 thing, but yeah that's basically it :/
I just mentioned all possible Counter Claims to the Cop claim, so don't worry, basically if any role is not aligned horizontally or vertically with one they cannot exist together and is a good Counter Claim (or CCing with the exact same role that was claimed)
Sakura
So look at it like this

Jailkeeper - Vanilla - Vanilla
Roleblocker - Cop - Doctor
1-shot Bulletproof - Vanilla - Tracker


Cop was claimed, all in red arent directly algined with it, so are Counter Claims, Doctor is in green because it can exist together and it's not a Counter Claim (So if they exist they shouldn't claim, simple)
Irreversible
ah i remember, quotes said he's cop once didn't he? but why can we trust him?
Sakura
No counterclaim, also I dont agree with any counter claim if it's a cop. Right now unless it's rEdo, if a real cop exists, they should hide until tomorrow so they can at least get 1 investigation off. If a JK is the CC they can CC and we get Quotes lynched, if he flips cop lynch the CC tomorrow, otherwise the JK can try an attempt at preventing the NK with his roleblock, Tracker should prob. stay hidden as well. Not sure on the best course of action of a 1 shot BP cc.
Sakura
If he's scum, We will get a counter claim either today or tomorrow.

If he's the actual cop, then we got 1 conf town, who will prob. die tonight anyway so why kill him today, if there's a doctor he'll live, but scum has a RB so he's useless, and being useless PR, he's still town and there's no reason for lynch him.

a.k.a our scum pool has reduced so we should be looking at another perspective.
Irreversible
ah i see .. o_o' so it's not even sure a cop exists right?
Sakura
But on the plus side, cop can be cc'd, if cop is a fake claim, its ASSURED that there will be a CC, so if there isn't Quotes is pretty much conftown.
Sakura
So yeah if another cop exists, they shouldn't out yet, get an investigation tonight, and out tomorrow, this gives us either a conf town (if they got an innocnet), a conf scum (if they get a guilty) on top of a conf scum (because of the CC).
Sakura
The only thing worrying me atm is for the day to end without a hammer.
Irreversible
Why is that? How many votes does it need to hammer?
Sakura
5, and if there's no hammer before deadline, day ends without a lynch
Irreversible
o_O? I thought the one with the most votes? I'm confused now.
Amianki
Are you already voting him?
Sakura
He's not voting anyone.
Sakura

Rules wrote:

If majority isn't reached, there will be no lynch so you know...
Irreversible
Vote: reDo

I've read through your posts and the others arguments, and it makes sense actually.
Irreversible

CalignoBot wrote:

Are you already voting him?
..are you stressed by smth or so? u.u
Sakura
Well now we just wait for the mod to post the flip, and send the game into night (i think that was a hammer?), I would say you should've declared intent first but we were running out of time here.
Sakura
Also it's normal for days to end without a lynch if no majority is reached, just that for some reason people in here prefer the contrary, lynches give info, and allow for bandwagon analisis after the flip, if someone can be lynched with 1 vote, then that gives no info at all and makes it harder to catch scum, so yeah I agree with that rule.
Amianki

Irreversible wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Are you already voting him?
..are you stressed by smth or so? u.u
I'm in a hurry since the deadline is pretty much slapping us on the ass.
Sakura
He's already hammered, Irre wasnt voting rEdo on the last votecount so his vote was a hammer.
Amianki
I know. I was answering his question.
Irreversible
how much time was left? oO
Amianki
About two hours.
Topic Starter
Lilac


Sorry, was busy with chess openings. It looks like someone got lynched today, hurrah. Little King John will have tons of fun with this. Also, you should YouTube search for Attack on Ratboy Genius, best OP ever.

Final Votecount for D1:
rEdo (5) (Lynched) - Jinx, Quotes, Sakura, CalignoBot, Irreversible
Quotes (1) - rEdo
Sakura (1) - SenaSaki

Saki will be replaced, probably by Sephibro, hold on while I do the flip.
Topic Starter
Lilac
rEdo got turned into a potato knish D1. He was a Mafia Goon.

It is now Night 1. You have 24-48 hours because I have to probably get a replacement for Saki. Hurrah.
Topic Starter
Lilac
On my phone now but I can safely say that Quotes, the Town Cop.
is dead.

You have a week from now. Saki has responded to the pros and will not be replaced. Seriously. I'll update this soon when I have the time.
Sakura
That was expected, Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
Amianki

Sakura wrote:

That was expected, Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
FoS: Sakura

Vote: Irreversible

This can't be overlooked at all. A quick ISO search pinpoints him as rEdo's partner the hardest. He attacked me (the first person to suspect him) a LOT over the past day and attacked Quotes (the primary pusher of rEdo) pretty hard as well. His only real pressure on rEdo was very halfheartedly done. Plus, as mentioned yesterday, rEdo's interactions with him aren't very innocent either.
Sakura
Do you think he would hammered rEdo if he was his partner?
Amianki
At that point, he pretty much had no choice. If he willingly didn't hammer and later had rEdo flip scum, that would have made it incredibly obvious he's rEdo's partner.
Sakura
Hmm I guess I see your point, I was thinking more on Saki tbh, since rEdo focused on Royston's and kook's inactivity but he ignored Saki completely.
Amianki
That's a pretty weak associative tell and Saki's slot is pretty much entirely devoid of content right now. I'll wait until at least a replacement can post some content before coming to a conclusion on it.
Sakura
Saki's back tho, so we prob. will get more content from him soon (I Hope)
Sakura
Btw what was the FoS for?
Amianki

Sakura wrote:

1. That was expected, 2. Man I need to stop being weak to buddying, 3. since scum decided to kill him rather block him it's quite probably they dont have a Roleblocker, which means we also dont have a Doctor, so it's pretty mountainous from here on.
1. I really can't tell if this is a scumslip or not. Either way, it's a variant of the "damn it" tell, or whatever it's officially called.

2. This sounds really forced. This statement and the one before it sounds more like an attempt to sound town than anything else.

3. Pretty much just stating information.

No scumhunting, votes, aggression of any kind. All there is there is a small amount of info and forced statements.
Sakura
1. Actually you may be referring to the "Well that sucks!" tell, or gloating. I expected the death because he was a claimed cop.

2. Well excuse me for being a global scum read and being weak towards people that actually DO town read me.

3. I think that has more analysis than information tbh.

I don't have any major scumreads atm, and you're like the only one around atm to interact with. Also I've already resigned to getting lynched today due to rEdo's buddying anyway =D
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