ok so by using logic you showed why the one map would give more pp than the other. then lets look at another example: me.Silynn wrote:
I find this hard to believe, lol (because it's wrong - even if you don't dislike pp farmers that doesn't mean it's true for everyone)Aqo wrote:
Nobody dislikes PP farmers, that's where you're wrong Silynn.
But yes, most people don't realize that the boundaries set by a difficulty name (hard or insane) are very very vague (some insanes are easier than average hards, and some hards are harder than a lot of insanes)
I mostly started this thread because of this exact misconception (just because it is labeled "hard" does not mean it is easier than an insane, especially when stacking DT)
I'd like to see someone tell me that this on DT isn't harder than 95% of the insanes in the game.
Not to mention, why does it matter that a lot of hards are weighted such? If they were truly so easy, they would be weighted lower by the system (difficulty is not necessarily difficulty to FC -- accuracy matters a lot in PP, which makes sense, since this is a game about clicking circles to a beat)While the system does have flaws, I can point out to you exactly why this map isn't worth that much PPsilmarilen wrote:
this map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/192508&m=0 which is already harder to fc nomod than the other one is to fc with hd dt has only 5 hd hr scores and the #1 doesnt even have it in his top 10 performances and hes not even top100
1. the pp system doesn't care about map difficulty, it only cares about what the leaderboard looks like.
2. the pp system is heavily based on accuracy. while you may disagree with this, it makes a lot of sense (as I said above)
and if you sort the map by no mod scores, what do you see? A full page of SS ranks.
also, that map has a pretty decent play count, but not particularly high (kuusou has 420,000 plays on the hard diff, not to mention the entire page is HDDT scores and there's only 6 SS with that many)
my whole top10 performance is hd fl on incredibly easy maps yet im almost top500 pp (i used to be top500). how is that fair?
and dont tell me i used a lot of plays so its dedication, because some of them were done in less than 20 plays