whatsilmarilen wrote:
well. since god doesnt excist that means you will never get better
are you saying cookiezi doesn't exist
I refuse to believe that. he's out there somewhere, watching us from above
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Which is more important? Cursor movement or Streaming
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Cursor movement or Streaming?
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are you saying cookiezi doesn't exist
I refuse to believe that. he's out there somewhere, watching us from above
fuck
Why would you want to rank either of these as more important? They are both necessary skills to be an Osu! player.
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
what if you suck at both so much that you can't determine which is worse?kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Is fine with me.MxG PhiLL wrote:
movement is more important, but streaming is more impressive
movement, with movement you can basically play any map hdhr, with streaming... fc freedom dive?
kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Nothing about osu! is healthy, though.
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnezk_LIds like WTF am i doing...
Those who say streaming is harder to train, did someone even tried to train it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8wos4fQBc
If someone needs it http://puu.sh/1lDo8
Doing this at least once a day(well not every day but you got what im saying...) gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnezk_LIds like WTF am i doing...
Those who say streaming is harder to train, did someone even tried to train it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q8wos4fQBc
If someone needs it http://puu.sh/1lDo8
Doing this at least once a day(well not every day but you got what im saying...) gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
ahahahhahahah no.LoGo wrote:
Doing this at least once a day gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
ahahahhahahah yes.Liutprando wrote:
ahahahhahahah no.LoGo wrote:
Doing this at least once a day gonna make you stream 200+ pretty fast...
Just press until you fail few times then when your fingers barely move take 1 min break and go again, you gonna see that you can hold a lot longer...
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
That makes both equally important. Go figure.Tanzklaue wrote:
what if you suck at both so much that you can't determine which is worse?kriers wrote:
A healthy way to maintain balanced skill: the weakest of the two is the most important.
Improve? You have the stamina of a horse, what do you wanna improve at lolthelewa wrote:
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
speed
cirno-_old
Training on Shinsekai is great and all, but reading maps correctly is what will get you to pass stuff. There are some tricky 130BPM w/ 8 AR maps that I still can't FC. But there are plenty of 150BPM-160BPM maps I can FC my first try. Training like that will help you pass something like Banned Forever. But will it help with AR10? Will it help with jump maps like Rainbow Dash Likes Girls? Well maybe if it has sudden fast streams.
I guess it depends on what the person wants to get good at. There might be some guy who does nothing but streams just so he can one day stream 300+ BPM.
I guess it depends on what the person wants to get good at. There might be some guy who does nothing but streams just so he can one day stream 300+ BPM.
When i read this i was confused because it's just impossible but then i checked your profile... You are playing massive amount of normals or really short insanes and by looking here What do you expect? There's no game where playing casually will lead to insane skill...Liutprando wrote:
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Well you have extreme accuracy + you can press ~220+(i believe that's the point when your speed increases really slow, well at least for me D:)thelewa wrote:
Yeah I spend a couple of hours constantly grinding streams every day, doesn't really help me improve
Question i have, those who stream 250+ kb only, don't you get pain after some time? D:(if i stream around that speed, hour or two is maximum without finger pain(bone/or whatever is causing pain)
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
It's impossible what ? To play the stream maps all days ? Just spectate me whenever you want.LoGo wrote:
When i read this i was confused because it's just impossible but then i checked your profile... You are playing massive amount of normals or really short insanes and by looking here What do you expect? There's no game where playing casually will lead to insane skill...Liutprando wrote:
i've been doing all the stream practice maps all the days since 2 months or more and all i achieved it's streaming a bit faster and still sucking at 20+ notes long streams.
And i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Even though like you mentioned i have ( i'll have) to play less in the next months
Learning to do long stream it's not that easy like you were trying to say ( too bad for me
) i mean , look at Silvia and White Wolf , they're considerated top players and play since years but yet they suck at long stream 
No, i meant that it's impossible that you didn't get decent stamina playing like that. White Wolf had good high speed and stamina.(look at most stream maps i don't see him only on FD but i don't quite remember was he even playing so active that time + to actually play FD(for good result) you need day when you actually feel like you can do it. And he is on mad machine with good accuracy...Liutprando wrote:
It's impossible what ? To play the stream maps all days ? Just spectate me whenever you want.
Even though like you mentioned i have ( i'll have) to play less in the next months
Learning to do long stream it's not that easy like you were trying to say ( too bad for me
About Silvia i never saw him actually playing long stream maps, well at least more than 1 time in a week/month... But he can do decent speed look at rog-unlimitation.
lolGoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Nothing is more important than your PC. You can have all the best skills in osu! but that won't be good enough if you're just using crappy old PCs.
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming abilityGoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
I'm right handed, and I hold my pen with my right hand. And I suck.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
Same here. Only after like 4 hours straight of playing can I even keyboard stream over 180 bpm for 50+ notes, and that's still pushing it. But bpms like 155-160ish that I can actually keep up with, I can do forever.winber1 wrote:
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
My speed when I first started playing was probably capped at 160, and now it's 180 :S guess it just takes a long time.
Good aim? Nice joke D: If i had good aim then i would be #1 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/124321 few months ago...GoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.LoGo wrote:
Movement, why? i don't even understand how can you possibly train it when you barely move to all corners, aim just evolves too slow. But streaming... you can press the button all the time, all you need to improve, is raise bpm and stream length but what can you do to improve aim??? all you do is change god damn tablet area then start to reach corners and next day you wake up that speed boost to reach corners goes to nowhere and repeating that ends in completely unstable results...
And saying play more jump maps, i think 99,9% of maps have them + there can be billion combinations how you need to move your hand/palm...
Can someone give me some advice what to play to improve snapping??(i think thats how its called) For example this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/20328 it's just impossible D:( i dont think that playing <- gonna improve someting i just can't move so far and it almost feels like i cant even read it D:)
Adding HD helps on accuracy http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/482276 but then i can't do those pentagons at the start :/( even without HD i do them rarely)
Well i played with DT ~80% of my play count and speed just came naturally.winber1 wrote:
I'm right handed, and I hold my pen with my right hand. And I suck.
also playing stream maps all day really doesn't help with stream speed. I will admit that it may help with stamina, but stream speed a completely different aspect of the game that I honestly have no idea how to train. I've being doing random shit to get it higher, not really working.
I can single tap a lot faster with my right hand(by straining it around elbow but i can't get same speed with left hand) and that's pretty confusing considering i got 2 injuries on my palm joint, first when i was kid, second 2 years ago.silmarilen wrote:
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming ability
But i ended whining about lefthanded thing for a while now( i guess i never would whine about it if there wouldn't be one friend who just by playing 15min with tablet got better aim than i in one month D:)
Dude learn to quote. I didn't say that LOL
0.0 lol, i was writing quote by myself(just to not make quote of quote and so on...) so i guess messed up nicknames D:winber1 wrote:
Dude learn to quote. I didn't say that LOL
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.oLoGo wrote:
Good aim? Nice joke D: If i had good aim then i would be #1 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/124321 few months ago...GoldenWolf wrote:
What do you expect ? You're lefthanded but you hold your pen in your right hand (According to your userpage), there's no way you can have a good aim like that.
how do you do thatsilmarilen wrote:
i am left handed and i play with my right hand and my aim is exeptionally good compared to my streaming ability
you're scary man
nononono, that sentence can be understood in different ways like:GoldenWolf wrote:
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.o
1. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( figuratively translating - i have good aim but there's no way that i have it)
2. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( literally translating - i can't have good aim because i am playing with right hand)
And in situation when you parody my post how can it be literal translation? o.o
English being my first language and my primary language, that sentences (disregarding a grammatical error) only means that... you don't have good aim... and that it is impossible for you to have good aim. I don't see how it could mean anything else.LoGo wrote:
nononono, that sentence can be understood in different ways like:GoldenWolf wrote:
But I said you can't have a good aim like that, not you have one o.o
1. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( figuratively translating - i have good aim but there's no way that i have it)
2. there's no way you can have a good aim like that.( literally translating - i can't have good aim because i am playing with right hand)
And in situation when you parody my post how can it be literal translation? o.o
Also,
is completely contradictory. This sentence makes absolutely no sense.LoGo wrote:
i have good aim but there's no way that i have it
Now this thread is about how to speak English.
Come join everyone.
PhiLL A
ITT: PEDATIC PEOPLE
You realize I'm just being an ass about grammatical English, right? I know what he means; I'm just explaining his attempt to translate the sentence did not logically make sense.MxG PhiLL wrote:
I think what he was trying to say is that there is seemingly no way that he could have good aim, but he inexplicably does. He just phrased it wrong, but you just gotta think for 2 seconds to figure out what he meant.
PhiLL A
yeah i realize.winber1 wrote:
You realize I'm just being an ass about grammatical English, right? I know what he means; I'm just explaining his attempt to translate the sentence did not logically make sense.MxG PhiLL wrote:
I think what he was trying to say is that there is seemingly no way that he could have good aim, but he inexplicably does. He just phrased it wrong, but you just gotta think for 2 seconds to figure out what he meant.
u gui so smart!@
well, English isn't my native language, so let's assume, subconsciously i think that i am pro and i wanted show off.
/how to speak English
/how to speak English
mouse movement = hand-eye coordination
accuracy = sense of rythm
speed = physical ability
comparing apples with oranges
accuracy = sense of rythm
speed = physical ability
comparing apples with oranges
What's wrong with that?silmarilen wrote:
comparing apples with oranges
I have 5 apples and 6 oranges. I have more oranges.
streaming since you can buy movement with a tablet
Bullshit.Hanyuu wrote:
streaming since you can buy movement with a tablet
The only problem I had with going back to my mouse was that it was a piece of shit.Hanyuu wrote:
streaming since you can buy movement with a tablet
why is this still going even nowHanyuu wrote:
you can buy movement with a tablet
Buy tablet get good at jumps yeah right more like buy tablet get bad at small circles and lines and squares. mouse > tablet at snapping.
and flow/stream movement is exactly the same with both when you get used to it
if anything tablet makes you better at streaming. tapx race too stronk
I wish tablet made me better at streaming.
start tapping
obviously moving cursor if ur my rank and ur gd at it or experienced streams are easy but moving the cursor to 20 different circles at the same time is not try itAqo wrote:
start tapping
tablet makes you better at aiming and jumps, especially on small circles and squares where mouse is inferior for most people. only because it's different for you it doesn't mean it's like that for everyone, and in fact most of the people who bought a tablet got better at jumps and movement overall almost instantly.Aqo wrote:
why is this still going even nowHanyuu wrote:
you can buy movement with a tablet
Buy tablet get good at jumps yeah right more like buy tablet get bad at small circles and lines and squares. mouse > tablet at snapping.
and flow/stream movement is exactly the same with both when you get used to it
if anything tablet makes you better at streaming. tapx race too stronk
so in 99% of the cases, yes, a tablet is like buying movement and jumpskills.
and tapx is a lot harder to learn than keyboardstreaming, and your acc won't be as good as the acc of a keyboardstreamer unless you are really good with tapx.
PhiLL A
I think Aqo meant that mouse is better than tablet for jumps because snapping is a lot better and easier with mouse.Tanzklaue wrote:
tablet makes you better at aiming and jumps, especially on small circles and squares where mouse is inferior for most people. only because it's different for you it doesn't mean it's like that for everyone, and in fact most of the people who bought a tablet got better at jumps and movement overall almost instantly.Aqo wrote:
why is this still going even now
Buy tablet get good at jumps yeah right more like buy tablet get bad at small circles and lines and squares. mouse > tablet at snapping.
and flow/stream movement is exactly the same with both when you get used to it
if anything tablet makes you better at streaming. tapx race too stronk
so in 99% of the cases, yes, a tablet is like buying movement and jumpskills.
and tapx is a lot harder to learn than keyboardstreaming, and your acc won't be as good as the acc of a keyboardstreamer unless you are really good with tapx.
The only reason people "get better when they buy tablet" is because those people tried playing with high dpi and acceleration and suddenly the full tablet area with absolute positioning made them more accurate "like magic". Low DPI mouse does everything tablet does and better unless your mouse is abysmally terrible.
I played with a mouse at low DPI (800) before switching to tablet, but I didn't get better at all 
PhiLL A
More practice? please... look at my play count, when i joined and what i achieved(started playing with tablet sep 11)... You can achieve same things with any play style, what matters is how determined you are and talent. If all you do is whine(im not saying that you do that) how easy it is to play with tablet by not even trying it(and when most people try it they understand that it's completely not easy) then you gonna end up buying it \:D/.MxG PhiLL wrote:
The thing is, mouse play takes more skill and more practice than tablet from what I've seen. At least for me, tablet learning curve was much steeper than mouse learning curve
Look at Kakusi(now Shizuru-) he joined this year and already owns 99% people here... or other mouse players Silvia,Beatrice even Niko- is now playing with mouse...
Practicing stream is harder than getting good tablet settings
I dont know what you guys problem is. Streaming is harder, if you got a tablet and cant aim there is your problem and its not about flow or jumps or whatever words you make up its only pointing the cursor in the right place and its super easy with tablet?
Learning to aim harder than pressing so many clicks in little time.. you got to be kidding me
I dont know what you guys problem is. Streaming is harder, if you got a tablet and cant aim there is your problem and its not about flow or jumps or whatever words you make up its only pointing the cursor in the right place and its super easy with tablet?
Learning to aim harder than pressing so many clicks in little time.. you got to be kidding me
Hanyuu wrote:
Practicing stream is harder than getting good tablet settings
I dont know what you guys problem is. Streaming is harder, if you got a tablet and cant aim there is your problem and its not about flow or jumps or whatever words you make up its only pointing the cursor in the right place and its super easy with tablet?
Learning to aim harder than pressing so many clicks in little time.. you got to be kidding me
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oh yeah? I've played for 2,5 years and I still can't stream =/
Oh yeah? I've played for 2,5 years and I still can't accuracy =/kriers wrote:
oh yeah? I've played for 2,5 years and I still can't stream =/
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Streaming is easiest thing in this game, what can be hard is high bpm streams(220+) or accuracy on slow ones(but with time you kinda feel each tap so it's not that hard)Hanyuu wrote:
Practicing stream is harder than getting good tablet settings
I dont know what you guys problem is. Streaming is harder, if you got a tablet and cant aim there is your problem and its not about flow or jumps or whatever words you make up its only pointing the cursor in the right place and its super easy with tablet?
Learning to aim harder than pressing so many clicks in little time.. you got to be kidding me
Answer me, what is so hard in pressing button which stays on place all the time???
From your words i can clearly see that you never used tablet, playing with tablet brings a lot of things which can't be fixed in short period... For example grip if you are comfortable with grip which allows you move 1x1cm big area you are pretty much screwed. One more thing, corners i think that's the "best" place for all tablet players.
Wrong, tablet is objectively better for aiming and jumping (coming from someone who switched from 400 DPI mouse to tablet). Absolute tracking with tablet means that there is a point on the tablet area for every hitcircle (hence defined jump paths) whereas with a mouse, you only learn to jump through practice and muscle memory.Aqo wrote:
The only reason people "get better when they buy tablet" is because those people tried playing with high dpi and acceleration and suddenly the full tablet area with absolute positioning made them more accurate "like magic". Low DPI mouse does everything tablet does and better unless your mouse is abysmally terrible.
I was already equal to my mouse jumping ability within 24 hours of tablet play and am now miles better with tablet.
tl;dr - buy tablet, become cookiezi
I'd play tablet too if I didn’t have this much muscle memory and my hand didn't feel like dying from a few hours of tablet usage.
also puraido.
also puraido.
The only reason why some people think mouse is worse is because they suck and don't know how to get their setting properly configured. Tablet is easier to just "jump into", whereas mouse requires more knowledge.Kanye West wrote:
Wrong, tablet is objectively better for aiming and jumping (coming from someone who switched from 400 DPI mouse to tablet). Absolute tracking with tablet means that there is a point on the tablet area for every hitcircle (hence defined jump paths) whereas with a mouse, you only learn to jump through practice and muscle memory.Aqo wrote:
The only reason people "get better when they buy tablet" is because those people tried playing with high dpi and acceleration and suddenly the full tablet area with absolute positioning made them more accurate "like magic". Low DPI mouse does everything tablet does and better unless your mouse is abysmally terrible.
I was already equal to my mouse jumping ability within 24 hours of tablet play and am now miles better with tablet.
tl;dr - buy tablet, become cookiezi
That absolute tracking also fucks up everything when you need small movement or hard patterns(its hard to explain but you end up pressing in wrong places or smth). And what you mean by whereas with a mouse, you only learn to jump through practice and muscle memory to move pen you also need muscles besides if you are hovering then you need even higher precision because you can't feel anything in the air whereas with a mouse, you move on actual surface.Kanye West wrote:
Wrong, tablet is objectively better for aiming and jumping (coming from someone who switched from 400 DPI mouse to tablet). Absolute tracking with tablet means that there is a point on the tablet area for every hitcircle (hence defined jump paths) whereas with a mouse, you only learn to jump through practice and muscle memory.Aqo wrote:
The only reason people "get better when they buy tablet" is because those people tried playing with high dpi and acceleration and suddenly the full tablet area with absolute positioning made them more accurate "like magic". Low DPI mouse does everything tablet does and better unless your mouse is abysmally terrible.
I was already equal to my mouse jumping ability within 24 hours of tablet play and am now miles better with tablet.
tl;dr - buy tablet, become cookiezi
Also from my experience even after ~5 months with tablet, 1 day was enough to fc easy hard with mouse but i always was making random miss with tablet.
lol logo trying to say tablet is hard wwwwwww
He's just saying that a mouse is better for small movements such as in this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/19691
That's a map that really is a thousand times easier for mouse players to DT fc.
That's a map that really is a thousand times easier for mouse players to DT fc.
It's true tho, not only for weird line patterns and stuff
doing fullscreen 1/2 jumps on 200bpm or higher on CS5 with tablet is hard as hell because of hovering, you end up missing between the jumps. you need to practice being super steady with the hand that holds the pen
meanwhile with mouse it's easy to land exactly on the the circles as long as you moved in the right direction and you have enough speed. stuff like those diamonds on atama is a nightmare with tablet and with mouse it's like a free +combo
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150406&m=0
the first few seconds on this map
with mouse it's really easy
with tablet it's like buuuuuutttfuuuuuck
doing fullscreen 1/2 jumps on 200bpm or higher on CS5 with tablet is hard as hell because of hovering, you end up missing between the jumps. you need to practice being super steady with the hand that holds the pen
meanwhile with mouse it's easy to land exactly on the the circles as long as you moved in the right direction and you have enough speed. stuff like those diamonds on atama is a nightmare with tablet and with mouse it's like a free +combo
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150406&m=0
the first few seconds on this map
with mouse it's really easy
with tablet it's like buuuuuutttfuuuuuck
Whats so hard pressing a button that stays in place well.. its pretty damn fast and you need to train your fingers so ridiculously that you can press this fast and keep this endurance for the long streams . Also i played tablet by tapping for half a year and then afterwards i switched to kb pressing. it is not hard at all and if you cant move in a 1x1cm big area (well thats a joke i think but anyways) you can adjust with resolution or gameplay area. <-- thats why i said about tablet settings in my earlier post. also those "feared" corner things squares whatever. it does not really matter. the game is just about aim and hit in time. however the pattern may look or where notes are placed it doesnt matter really. anyways my opinion still stands and the topic title is: Which is more important? Cursor movement or Streaming... for me definitely streaming since yeah,you can get a good movement alot easierLoGo wrote:
Streaming is easiest thing in this game, what can be hard is high bpm streams(220+) or accuracy on slow ones(but with time you kinda feel each tap so it's not that hard)Hanyuu wrote:
Practicing stream is harder than getting good tablet settings
I dont know what you guys problem is. Streaming is harder, if you got a tablet and cant aim there is your problem and its not about flow or jumps or whatever words you make up its only pointing the cursor in the right place and its super easy with tablet?
Learning to aim harder than pressing so many clicks in little time.. you got to be kidding me
Answer me, what is so hard in pressing button which stays on place all the time???
From your words i can clearly see that you never used tablet, playing with tablet brings a lot of things which can't be fixed in short period... For example grip if you are comfortable with grip which allows you move 1x1cm big area you are pretty much screwed. One more thing, corners i think that's the "best" place for all tablet players.
If we could get good at movements alot easier, we should see a tons of new cookiezi everywhere.
Streaming is definitively easier.
Streaming is definitively easier.
how is that any easier for mouse.Aqo wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150406&m=0
the first few seconds on this map
with mouse it's really easy
with tablet it's like buuuuuutttfuuuuuck
it's pretty damn easy on tablet anyways. trollololol
inb4 peppy now sells osu!-mice instead of tablets.
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/4548
339 combo with mouse /pro
339 combo with mouse /pro
QFT lolwinber1 wrote:
how is that any easier for mouse.Aqo wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150406&m=0
the first few seconds on this map
with mouse it's really easy
with tablet it's like buuuuuutttfuuuuuck
it's pretty damn easy on tablet anyways. trollololol
And if you're having a hard time with small cursor movements, use a bigger tablet area. 'nuff said. Like I said before, if you miss notes with a tablet, you objectively suck.
i think movement is more important because with bad aim you cant get the movement in the streams right
and you can improve faster in streaming
and you can improve faster in streaming
ITT: preferences
I couldn't click on any of those beats.winber1 wrote:
how is that any easier for mouse.Aqo wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/150406&m=0
the first few seconds on this map
with mouse it's really easy
with tablet it's like buuuuuutttfuuuuuck
it's pretty damn easy on tablet anyways. trollololol
and I'm a mouse user lol.
wasnt that the whole purpose of this topic? looking at the titlebuny wrote:
ITT: preferences
I just wanted to remind everyone that people have different views on certain things.silmarilen wrote:
wasnt that the whole purpose of this topic? looking at the titlebuny wrote:
ITT: preferences
Mesita.silmarilen wrote:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/4548
339 combo with mouse /pro
Kalle_old_1
For me, getting good at moving the mouse smoothly at all speeds is more important, as keeping up with streams tends to be much harder than being able to click alone. The amount of dexterity that's required when rapid clicking is compounded by constant movement is pretty fierce.
It depends on the player. It's important to be good at both, but some players are better at one and worse at the other.
If you're looking to just pass a song, then I would say cursor movement, since you can mess up a little with timing. But with position, if you're a little off the circle, it still counts as a miss.
i can stream ascension to heaven or say mad machine pretty decent, but when it comes to a part in a song where it's like, stream note note stream stream note, then i have trouble, so it's more about control in streaming and aim, not just how fast you can spam your fingers
Azumi Shizuko wrote:
it's more about control in streaming and aim, not just how fast you can spam your fingers
you can just spam through it though with perfect accuracy still lolAzumi Shizuko wrote:
i can stream ascension to heaven or say mad machine pretty decent, but when it comes to a part in a song where it's like, stream note note stream stream note, then i have trouble, so it's more about control in streaming and aim, not just how fast you can spam your fingers
Spam through it with perfect accuracy? Maybe mad machine yeah, but then again that map has almost 0 importance.
You cannot mindlessly spam your keys on OD8 and get perfect accuracy. (Ascension)
You cannot mindlessly spam your keys on OD8 and get perfect accuracy. (Ascension)
just because you can't doesn't mean others can't also.Zook wrote:
Spam through it with perfect accuracy? Maybe mad machine yeah, but then again that map has almost 0 importance.
You cannot mindlessly spam your keys on OD8 and get perfect accuracy. (Ascension)
Pretty much all of my scores are just mindless spammingbuny wrote:
just because you can't doesn't mean others can't also.Zook wrote:
Spam through it with perfect accuracy? Maybe mad machine yeah, but then again that map has almost 0 importance.
You cannot mindlessly spam your keys on OD8 and get perfect accuracy. (Ascension)
accuracy is a subconscious thing anyway
stop trolling thelewa (:
buny, I'd much rather stream properly than be a keyboard berserker and hope for the best.
buny, I'd much rather stream properly than be a keyboard berserker and hope for the best.
only on low bpm i actually have to pay attention to get acc in streamers, between 170-190 bpm i mindlessly spam aswell
It's funny because best players ever are actually movement gods.
/thread?
/thread?
Movement doesn't matter if you have the streaming ability of a 2 year old.Wishy wrote:
It's funny because best players ever are actually movement gods.
/thread?
they arent just movement gods, they also have incredible stream speed.Wishy wrote:
It's funny because best players ever are actually movement gods.
/thread?
its just that they also have movement on top of that, which most people dont.
It's funny because I'm top 100 and I stream really badly. So I'll never be a "best player" unless I can fix that.silmarilen wrote:
they arent just movement gods, they also have incredible stream speed.Wishy wrote:
It's funny because best players ever are actually movement gods.
/thread?
its just that they also have movement on top of that, which most people dont.
I'll never be good unless I suddenly get speedy fingers
my cursor movement sucks atm while my tapping skills are off the charts. I gotta do something about that..
Uncle Buly