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Taiko:
1. Finish spinners as fast as you can.
2. Stay on beat with slider ticks, or you just look like an idiot smashing your keys while gaining no points.
1. Finish spinners as fast as you can.
2. Stay on beat with slider ticks, or you just look like an idiot smashing your keys while gaining no points.
About mices:
Higher DPI is better because the mouse is more precise and that is all. Better mices have not any shitty acceleration D:
And I got one question to pr0s: "What kind of keyboard you use to hold this megafast stacks/streams D: ?" I wonder why I can't do fast stacks on Kanbu or Cillit Bang on James diff D: Guide my how to do that D:
However, my english is a bit poor so don't kill me D:
Higher DPI is better because the mouse is more precise and that is all. Better mices have not any shitty acceleration D:
And I got one question to pr0s: "What kind of keyboard you use to hold this megafast stacks/streams D: ?" I wonder why I can't do fast stacks on Kanbu or Cillit Bang on James diff D: Guide my how to do that D:
However, my english is a bit poor so don't kill me D:
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before. osu! does NOT need insane precision. You ONLY need a higher DPI if you're a high-sensitivity player of osu!. You ONLY need a great acceleration if you spin very quickly or are a low-sensitivity player.Ryohan wrote:
About mices:
Higher DPI is better because the mouse is more precise and that is all. Better mices have not any shitty acceleration D:
Practice. However, I have been performing experiments and after I've tested them on a human subject and they are confirmed useful I'll post them.Ryohan wrote:
And I got one question to pr0s: "What kind of keyboard you use to hold this megafast stacks/streams D: ?" I wonder why I can't do fast stacks on Kanbu or Cillit Bang on James diff D: Guide my how to do that D:
You might discover that it requires a bit more accuracy than you claim when you move on from those Normal songs that you lovestrager wrote:
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before. osu! does NOT need insane precision. You ONLY need a higher DPI if you're a high-sensitivity player of osu!. You ONLY need a great acceleration if you spin very quickly or are a low-sensitivity player.Ryohan wrote:
About mices:
Higher DPI is better because the mouse is more precise and that is all. Better mices have not any shitty acceleration D:
Topic Starter
Oh man clicking big circles on a game that's not even fullscreen.
Not to mention you have rhythm to dictate where you need to move.
Please save me from this impossible game.
Not to mention you have rhythm to dictate where you need to move.
Please save me from this impossible game.
For most players the hardest part of the game is mouse control.lukewarmholiday wrote:
Oh man clicking big circles on a game that's not even fullscreen.
Not to mention you have rhythm to dictate where you need to move.
Please save me from this impossible game.
Yes rhythm and hitcircles dictates where and when you have to move.
The Hardest part is to make your mouse cursor keep up.
Well to be honest lukewarmholiday, I haven't seen you playing any Jump/Large Spacing beatmaps ever, so your comments are without merit. If you restrict yourself to easy maps, then of course you won't need incredible aim.
Yo, that was a long time ago...Lucidity wrote:
You might discover that it requires a bit more accuracy than you claim when you move on from those Normal songs that you love
I'm pretty good at jumps now (but most of the time I can't click to keep up so I perform much better on relax =[).
Topic Starter
bampu
The tip about the mouse acceleration helps so much I could cry. I don't know why even after all those years of FPS gaming I never figured that out.
Nifty little tricks in here, thanks.
Nifty little tricks in here, thanks.
Has it actually improved your game or are you just saying that?Tanongi wrote:
The tip about the mouse acceleration helps so much I could cry. I don't know why even after all those years of FPS gaming I never figured that out.
Nifty little tricks in here, thanks.
Well, I'm not overshooting jumps as often and I don't fall out of quick sliders as much, so yeah, I'd say it helped me. =)strager wrote:
Has it actually improved your game or are you just saying that?Tanongi wrote:
The tip about the mouse acceleration helps so much I could cry. I don't know why even after all those years of FPS gaming I never figured that out.
Nifty little tricks in here, thanks.
Oh, masters of osu! Help me!
What is the most efficient way of improving mouse control? I took mouse acceleration off and I feel like its more comfortable playing without it. So that helped a bit.
But I still keep missing randomly and thats why I am asking. Whats weird in it, is that I keep missing in easy parts, preventing me from fceing songs anymore.
What is the most efficient way of improving mouse control? I took mouse acceleration off and I feel like its more comfortable playing without it. So that helped a bit.
But I still keep missing randomly and thats why I am asking. Whats weird in it, is that I keep missing in easy parts, preventing me from fceing songs anymore.
Play maps by James. His shorter BeForU maps are pretty good for practicing medium spacing.Mukku wrote:
What is the most efficient way of improving mouse control? I took mouse acceleration off and I feel like its more comfortable playing without it. So that helped a bit.
But I still keep missing randomly and thats why I am asking. Whats weird in it, is that I keep missing in easy parts, preventing me from fceing songs anymore.
i say.. having a certain kind of gaming mouse actually helps when playing osu. i use the razer salmosa mouse and i noticed that when i use 1000hz of polling rate the delay when the mouse move reduces a lot. (that is because i have a slow pc)
anyways other thing is that try to practice the jumps and closeup notes (take kanbu for example) those notes are quite hard to master because its too close even if its in a easier difficulty.
finally : practice makes perfect
anyways other thing is that try to practice the jumps and closeup notes (take kanbu for example) those notes are quite hard to master because its too close even if its in a easier difficulty.
finally : practice makes perfect
Uhh...Crimson_SoulZ wrote:
i say.. having a certain kind of gaming mouse actually helps when playing osu. i use the razer salmosa mouse and i noticed that when i use 1000hz of polling rate the delay when the mouse move reduces a lot. (that is because i have a slow pc)
That will only make your movements fluid, if it affects anything at all, and won't really help otherwise. 250 Hz > 60 Hz (osu! input poll rate???).
If you actually compared polling rates using the same mouse, YMMV. However, if you're comparing a generic Dell mouse to a gamer-grade mouse, shame on you (unless the latter is really that bad or the former really that good, of course).
Hmm. I've been playing osu! with a cheap crappy mouse for over a year (the same one. never had to replace it) and I've been just fine.
It does matter if the mouse fits your hand and your playing style.
Woohoo! I got my first ranking in a 100+ BPM map after like... 60 retries. Rank #4 on Taiko no Tatsujin - Kumo Made Todoke! [TaikOsu-Muzukashii]
I guess I could call that a milestone. Slowly getting a better a bit at a time.
I guess I could call that a milestone. Slowly getting a better a bit at a time.
This should be written with big flashy letters on the screen when you turn on the game for the first time. Actually, put it in the file name of the installer.lukewarmholiday wrote:
Input styles
Turn off mouse acceleration.(google it, even if you suck right when you turn it off it doesn't matter. it's like changing sensitivity, just get used to it. It should only take a day at most.)
Seriously though, I was so frustrated with Osu! because my mouse kept moving out of my pad range that I resorted to buying a new mouse and pad completely. I had no idea that my poor mouse and pad weren't even guilty. Just because of that one little option in the control panel I wasted about 80$ on "gaming" mouse and pad. Well, just wanted to suggest you put that somewhere more obvious, so idiots like me don't do ridiculous things like I did.
I recommend to use the in-game hotkeys if you feel uncomfortable with the timing.lukewarmholiday wrote:
Offsets
Fix your universal offset, done right you will probably notice a lot less 100s.
If you want to go for acc, get a timing ear for adjusting individual offsets to what you like.
Set the offset-hotkeys right next to your playing buttons. Use the extra buttons on gaming mice.
Topic Starter
Bump, round 2
How do you use the spinner? Can anyone give me tips,becuase on some songs I fail unless I use the all spun out mod 
This is in both the tutorial map and the FaQ. You treat it similarly to a slider, and spin it as fast as you can.Cheeselo wrote:
How do you use the spinner? Can anyone give me tips,becuase on some songs I fail unless I use the all spun out mod
Not always as fast.An64fan wrote:
This is in both the tutorial map and the FaQ. You treat it similarly to a slider, and spin it as fast as you can.Cheeselo wrote:
How do you use the spinner? Can anyone give me tips,becuase on some songs I fail unless I use the all spun out mod ;)
As with streams and other things, it sometimes helps to relax. Being tense can cause problems.
Try getting up to at least 320 RPM consistently (i.e. not "on a good day"). Then, try spinning in the other direction.
@lukewarmholiday: I've been playing FPS's for about 4 years now, and I've had no issue with the mouse acceleration option. I think you need to calm down just a little bit. I mean, it was started as a noobie guide, not a nazi camp. I've been playing Taiko mode mostly, cause I'm not gonna touch Osu mode until I can get my tablet.
SOME TIPS FOR TAIKO MODE!:
1: watch some of the replays first to get an ear for the beat.
2: Just cause they're big, doesn't mean you have to mash both keys.
3: sometimes alternating between sides on your drum (like, mine are G H for left and right don(center), and T Y for left and right kat(rim), can mess your timing up. Try tapping on one side for a little and see if it helps.
4: just as musicians tap a foot or bob a head to the beat to help them keep rhythm and time, Try this as well! It helps me with EVERY music game I play (beatmaniaIIDX, Taiko no Tatsujin, DDR, Guitar Hero, GFDM, Pop'n music, etc.)
5: BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE TRACK! listen to it a few times before attempting it! so you'll get a feel for how the track flows!
hope my tips helped someone :3
SOME TIPS FOR TAIKO MODE!:
1: watch some of the replays first to get an ear for the beat.
2: Just cause they're big, doesn't mean you have to mash both keys.
3: sometimes alternating between sides on your drum (like, mine are G H for left and right don(center), and T Y for left and right kat(rim), can mess your timing up. Try tapping on one side for a little and see if it helps.
4: just as musicians tap a foot or bob a head to the beat to help them keep rhythm and time, Try this as well! It helps me with EVERY music game I play (beatmaniaIIDX, Taiko no Tatsujin, DDR, Guitar Hero, GFDM, Pop'n music, etc.)
5: BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE TRACK! listen to it a few times before attempting it! so you'll get a feel for how the track flows!
hope my tips helped someone :3
Topic Starter
Learning more, opposed to learning less, that's all fucking mouse acceleration is. I am sorry. It also completely fucks your ability to do spinners past a certain point.
Added your Taiko mode tips.
Added your Taiko mode tips.
eh? mouse acceleration is awesome for spinning. if it's a short spinner you can control your mouse and spin close to the center, or you can just go all out and spin fast as fuck if it's a long spinner.
Go all-out until the spinner's approach circle starts shrinking too close to the center, then start minimizing your mouse movement. When you get better with mouse control/mouse acceleration, just do fast smaller spins.Cheeselo wrote:
How do you use the spinner? Can anyone give me tips,becuase on some songs I fail unless I use the all spun out mod
Im not sure that mouse accel does well for spinning close to the center. It probably helps out a ton if you thrash spinners with big circles though.Gabi wrote:
eh? mouse acceleration is awesome for spinning. if it's a short spinner you can control your mouse and spin close to the center, or you can just go all out and spin fast as fuck if it's a long spinner.
To be honest though, new players should start out with mouse accel off, since it helps out more in the long run.
Mouse acceleration is a pain, because everytime the same movement gets to a different result.
Everytime i suggested players to turn it off, they improved instantly. I ask myself why did they even bother adding such a weird to use feature as default <.<
Anyway, great list of tips, good job luke
Everytime i suggested players to turn it off, they improved instantly. I ask myself why did they even bother adding such a weird to use feature as default <.<
Anyway, great list of tips, good job luke
That's untrue.Card N'FoRcE wrote:
Mouse acceleration is a pain, because everytime the same movement gets to a different result.
Because it's easier for normal users to use in a Windows GUI environment.Card N'FoRcE wrote:
Everytime i suggested players to turn it off, they improved instantly. I ask myself why did they even bother adding such a weird to use feature as default <.<
I guess i'm not a normal user then, because i find it so uncomfortable to work with... :S
Oh well, i guess it's different for each person.
Oh well, i guess it's different for each person.
Topic Starter
boop
tylukewarmholiday wrote:
boop
leave it as default
^Glasslake wrote:
leave it as default
Kaya-_old
Doesn't matter.Uber1337 wrote:
Should i play only by keyboard(i mean clicking) or both?
And on what dpi should i play:3?(Now i'm plaing on 2k)
Doesn't matter.
Is turning off mouse acceleration that big of a deal?
I have no idea, so I was just wondering why turning it off is so important.
I have no idea, so I was just wondering why turning it off is so important.
IppE
Acceleration off is better in the long run.
aevv_old
kindut
kindut wrote:
but i didn't necro
Is it actually better to have a high or low mouse sensitivity in osu?
While I believe it's more convenient for me to have a high sensitivity as I don't have to move my hand as much, but it usually means it's less accurate, right?
While I believe it's more convenient for me to have a high sensitivity as I don't have to move my hand as much, but it usually means it's less accurate, right?
3500dpi
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
1750 dpi
all these low dpi scrubs
all these low dpi scrubs
Someone close this?
It was posted 3 years ago...
oklukewarmholiday wrote:
If you have the money, see if you enjoy a tablet.
If you have the money, see if you enjoy playing like Cookiezi.
Actually, you're not playing with 1800DPI. You have the base DPI set to 1800 and the sensitivity lowers it by 65%... You are actually using 630 DPI. Congratulations, you're a low DPI user! I'd like to add that you could get better resolution out of the sensor, probably, if you were to go down to 900 DPI and lower it to around 630 from that.
Actually, you're not playing with 1800DPI. You have the base DPI set to 1800 and the sensitivity lowers it by 65%... You are actually using 630 DPI. Congratulations, you're a low DPI user! I'd like to add that you could get better resolution out of the sensor, probably, if you were to go down to 900 DPI and lower it to around 630 from that.
ann_old
Hah, yeah. I noticed that. Why not go all the way and set the polling to 1000?
630 is pretty low, heh, unless your resolution is really small.
630 is pretty low, heh, unless your resolution is really small.
ann_old
I'm sure it feels like that for some people. Especially if you're very used to it. I'm going to go ahead and assume you don't have any acceleration and leave that bit out.
ann_old
YepG0r wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and assume you don't have any acceleration and leave that bit out.
I don't agree with these two points.lukewarmholiday wrote:
Taiko
Just cause they're big, doesn't mean you have to mash both keys.
Sometimes alternating between sides on your drum (like, mine are G H for left and right don(center), and T Y for left and right kat(rim), can mess your timing
You should always drum both sides for every big note. Even if you can't do it fast, you have to train it from the beginning.
Alternating is a must when playing fast notes, so practice it early on slow notes. Don't be lazy and single tap slow notes.
There's no real notable difference between 500hz and 1000hz other than unreasonably loading up your CPU even more. Also 1000hz is unstable.xann wrote:
lolFrizz925 wrote:
So you noticed, that's good. However that is 2.5 sensitivity right there, not 3.0. Which means I actually play with 450dpi.G0r wrote:
Actually, you're not playing with 1800DPI. You have the base DPI set to 1800 and the sensitivity lowers it by 65%... You are actually using 630 DPI. Congratulations, you're a low DPI user! I'd like to add that you could get better resolution out of the sensor, probably, if you were to go down to 900 DPI and lower it to around 630 from that.
ann_old
I am .99 sure that you had your slider on the 3.5 position. :\ Why did you remove the image, which showed that? >.> There's nothing wrong with that DPI... Don't worry if this guy says 450 is better. I personally use 750, and I feel it's a very low DPI for me, and fits me at the moment. I may go down eventually, but not right now. Although, I admit it's hard to read the slider on the Razer sensitivity. Maybe we're both seeing different things because of where we start on it. I take 10 to be 100% and then go down by increments of 5. Are you starting at .5 as 5% and 1 as 10% and going up? I think that must be how you are reading it. The slider technically does not have enough room for a 100% scale. If you read the bottom mark as being 5%, then the 10 position is only 90%. Very awkward, and can't be right. If you read the top mark as 100%, though, then it makes more sense, since you can assume that it does not allow for you to take less than 15% of a DPI base. I always found that an oddity. Maybe that's where the confusion is.
About 1000 polling rate, it's always said that it adds strain to your CPU, but on a modern computer this strain is minimal. If you can game on it, then the odds are that it can take it without breaking a sweat. I am not sure about the veracity of claims that it causes mice to drift. I've personally never noticed any difference in drift between the different polling settings, and I normally get very little. My philosophy is that it speeds up the reaction of the device by something like a millisecond, and while that is very small, I am willing to take whatever edge I can get. That's just my philosophy, though, and there's no shame in using 500 on that either. However, I'd be very interested in seeing any proof of mouse drift at 1000.
About 1000 polling rate, it's always said that it adds strain to your CPU, but on a modern computer this strain is minimal. If you can game on it, then the odds are that it can take it without breaking a sweat. I am not sure about the veracity of claims that it causes mice to drift. I've personally never noticed any difference in drift between the different polling settings, and I normally get very little. My philosophy is that it speeds up the reaction of the device by something like a millisecond, and while that is very small, I am willing to take whatever edge I can get. That's just my philosophy, though, and there's no shame in using 500 on that either. However, I'd be very interested in seeing any proof of mouse drift at 1000.
The number placement on the driver sensitivity settings is off. The one from On-the-Fly Sensitivity is far more reliable and accurate.
yeah..lukewarmholiday wrote:
Catch the Beat
Use shift to move faster.
OH MY GOD!!! IT'S WORKING THANK YOU THANK YOU ARIGATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'VE MADE IT FARTHER THAN I EVER HAVE ON SOME HARD LEVELS NOW! (I WOULD LOSE IN ABOUT 5 SECONDS FROM THE FIRST CIRCLE/SLIDER/SPINNER BUT NOW IT'S LIKE 45 SECONDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY AVERAGE LOSING POINT IS WAY BETTER NOW YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Time st..... you know what? nm. post more.
Thankslukewarmholiday wrote:
Catch the Beat
Use shift to move faster.
also in taiko use Z and X instead of the mouse keys
you betZenithPhantasm wrote:
Inb4 drum drum locks for necroposting.
Don't necropost please