BagelBob wrote:
strager wrote:
nardi11011 wrote:
One thing I don't get: why did strager reveal his role instead of just saying "I was looking at the PM in the OP and was just wondering"?
Because I don't like lying.
I call BS, you meant to claim your roll. I was in the IRC with you before the game started. You could have sent your question as a PM to Suburu. You could have easily said that you were just curious. While lies generally do not help the town, the doctor role-claiming on the first day is worse.
One, before the game started, I didn't have the Doctor PM.
Two, if I lied, I would have to stay with that lie. I would rather stay with the truth.
Three,
claiming Doctor was an accident. I've said this several times I think.
BagelBob wrote:
Also, why are you ignoring these two posts?
The second post I may have missed. I have nothing to comment on it though.
The first post I thought I responded to, but apparently I didn't. Here's my response:
BagelBob wrote:
From what I see in that post, I can only think that you're voting for Echo because Echo was attacking you. Is this correct? Is there anything else that I'm missing?
That is correct.
BagelBob wrote:
And again, Why are Derekku and 0_o above 50? Why are the rest of us below 50? Was that whole chart just BS?
It was relative suspicion at the time. The list can be disregarded now as my opinion has changed, though.
BagelBob wrote:
But you didn't leave them out, and now you ought to explain what you said. Who mixed up a sequence of events and which sequence of events was it? What is it that you misunderstood? Do you need clarification on some matter?
Echo misunderstood. He thought I was saying he thought I was a Mafia because he voted for me, and this is what he posted. What I had THOUGHT he posted was that I should tell him why he voted for me, or something, which was really confusing.
When I finally posted that, though, I DID understand what he meant. The few lines which probably confused people were saying I at first DIDN'T understand but now (and at the time I hit the submit button for that post) I DID.
BagelBob wrote:
This section is just a re-statement. I don't see any explanations, nor a need for any. Of course Echo thinks that you're a mafia. My first clue was the case, my second was the vote. I know you didn't think that Echo thought you were a vanilla townie. There was a whole section about whether or not you were fake-claiming as a townie, with Echo definitively of the mind that that would be a bad idea. You're saying that to make it look like Echo is lynching a townie. You should have at least said doctor, since that's what you're claiming to be.
Again, I wasn't trying to explain anything. I WAS re-stating.
BagelBob wrote:
A quick-lynch, such as the one you described, would generally be an obvious scum-tell.
Circular reasoning?
BagelBob wrote:
Really, adam and Echo bandwagoning? Adam was the first one to vote for you, and Echo has been making the case.
I never said that. The exact thing you quoted:
strager wrote:
All I meant to say there that one or two of adam, Echo, nardi, and SFG were bandwagonning as a Mafia, not all of them.
BagelBob wrote:
your junk about random voting is this:
In chronological order:
strager wrote:
In the first case I deduce one of these to be a Mafia: adam, SFG, nardi
In the third case I deduce these are probably NOT Mafia (because they didn't jump on the bandwagon): Derekku, 0_o
For the first case it seems as if adam's vote was random and SFG's vote was only somewhat random, as was nardi's. So my suspicions for the latter two are above my suspicions for adam. From that I really can't say much more though.
For the third case, 0_o seems to be really trying to defend me which either means he's deceitful (and will kill me at night) or genuinely trying to help the town. I'm not foolish enough to denounce the former but based on my observation above he may be a Townie more than a Mafia.
I really don't know what to think of Derekku because he hasn't been doing much from what I can see, really. He could be bad at analysis, not have information to discuss, or is smart enough not to talk because he may leak information. So ... not really sure.
BagelBob wrote:
In addition, did you mean that adam, SFG, and nardii's votes looked like bandwagon votes? You state that you think 0_o and Derekuu were not on the bandwagon, but then you throw junk about random voting. Adam's vote started out random, but he kept posting and saying that he was reading the thread and agreed with Echo's logic.
strager wrote:
BagelBob wrote:
You state that you think 0_o and Derekuu were not on the bandwagon, but then you throw junk about random voting.
Where is this "junk about random voting?"
The random voting part was for the first case, and the 0_o and Derekku part was for the third case.
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BagelBob wrote:
Neither of those two pieces of code deals with our set-up. Why are you wasting time with things that don't apply? You can code all day, but when you get down to it, we aren't lynching someone at random.
On the first day the first lynch is probably random anyway.