I'm going to mostly not comment on BagelBob's post because me explaining why I said something would be restating what I already said, then he'll just ask why I said that again.
So you're saying whoever DIDN'T jump on is a Mafia?Echo wrote:
Even if strager is innocent, the mafia wouldn't jump on since that'd be a huge scum tell.
I'm not quite sure how that answers the question. Maybe I'm reading the other post wrong or am looking for the wrong thing.Echo wrote:
Three things only.I already answered this back here when SFG asked the same question.0_o wrote:
EDIT: and if you think about it, his theory on strager's bandwagon (Echo, SFG, adam, nardi) does make some sense. Wouldn't you think a mafia member would jump at the chance to lynch the potential doctor? I think it's very likely that both of the mafia members are in that group.
It was pretty much a mistake and it didn't really do anything other than urge Derekku to post asking HOW my program worked, and him saying "oh okay" in IRC. For BagelBob's mini-convo I was just pointing something out which may have cleared up some confusion.Echo wrote:
And strager/derekku/bagel are talking about the game in IRC, which is against the rules (simple "posted" lines are ok, I guess, but entire convos are a big no-no. ALL proper conversation MUST be in this thread for all to see).
I assume you don't want the entire .log file? I'll crop out the part with Derekku and I talking (with unrelated lines included, and a bit before and after) and post in a bit.Echo wrote:
edit: I see Suburu has modified the rules slightly, but I still have no guarantee that that is all they talked about in IRC. Post all logs please preferably as an attachment.
I'll post whatever I want.Echo wrote:
And finally NO MORE PERCENTAGES they are completely irrelevant
True, this only applies if you believe strager is innocent. And I do.Echo wrote:
If strager is mafia, then of course we won't have the mafia jumping on.
Well in that case no one is gonna be lynched since anyone who delivers the final blow is gonna be considered mafiastrager wrote:
Even if strager is innocent, the mafia wouldn't jump on since that'd be a huge scum tell.
wat0_o wrote:
True, this only applies if you believe strager is innocent. And I do.Echo wrote:
If strager is mafia, then of course we won't have the mafia jumping on.
0_o has a point here. Being the last to vote may be a scum tell but that doesn't mean that's the only thing it could be. There's even a chance no Mafia is voting for the person (in case they are a Mafia), but that wasn't the case earlier with me being voted to L-1.0_o wrote:
Well in that case no one is gonna be lynched since anyone who delivers the final blow is gonna be considered mafiastrager wrote:
Even if strager is innocent, the mafia wouldn't jump on since that'd be a huge scum tell.
Nope. It depends on the context; if the last person votes with a valid reason, then it's sweet.0_o wrote:
Well in that case no one is gonna be lynched since anyone who delivers the final blow is gonna be considered mafiastrager wrote:
Even if strager is innocent, the mafia wouldn't jump on since that'd be a huge scum tell.
So.. you are saying that the mafia is incapable of coming up with a valid reason to lynch someone?Echo wrote:
Nope. It depends on the context; if the last person votes with a valid reason, then it's sweet.0_o wrote:
Well in that case no one is gonna be lynched since anyone who delivers the final blow is gonna be considered mafiastrager wrote:
Even if strager is innocent, the mafia wouldn't jump on since that'd be a huge scum tell.
Due to Olinad being replaced the voting period will likely be extended.Saturos-fangirl wrote:
to other M2 players: this is the last day before we need to have a decision. if we do not decide, the mafia will get a free nightkill while we dither around not lynching people. Change your vote before time runs out~ (wow that sounded DOOM-y lol)
Interesting. I didn't mean to imply that not talking removed suspicion but you have a point about not wanting to slip up in a post. Caution is a bad thing, I guess?0_o wrote:
From what I remember looking through the first WW game, when adam and yoshikart were mafia, adam was on L-1 and yoshikart didn't say a thing. In fact, every post that he made was either a vote or a vote change, with little to no explaination. So don't think that being quiet means they are innocent; they are just as likely to be a wolf who is afraid of posting something suspicious.
So that's what you did with me? xD0_o wrote:
That, and throwing someone on L-2 is a pretty effective way of getting them to speak up
Derekku, 0_o, SFG, BagelBob.Derekku Chan wrote:
nardi is on L-1 ;/0_o wrote:
That, and throwing someone on L-2 is a pretty effective way of getting them to speak up
When you say "his buddy" who are you referring to? (nardi is "a Mafia" in that sentence, yes?)strager wrote:
Woah there.
Hasty.
I have noticed nardi in the "Users browsing the forum" at the bottom on several occasions and he hasn't posted. So here's what I think.
If he is a Townie, he's going a pretty horrible job at "blending in." He stands out as a lurker and doesn't even attempt to post anything meaningful.
If he is a Mafia, he's trying to sabotage the game by the same cause so Mafia loses. That's Pretty Gay (tm).
I really doubt a Mafia would sabotage his buddy like that so I'm leaning toward the possibility of him being a Townie.
Yes, I'm defending nardi, but it's not like he's hereso he canto defend himself anyway. =\
EDIT: [strike] and added "to" to make sentence more understandable.
That is exactly what I'm saying. There should be no evidence in posts against townies, which means mafia won't be able to bring up a valid reason to lynch a townie.0_o wrote:
So.. you are saying that the mafia is incapable of coming up with a valid reason to lynch someone?
Why not? Humans come up with "evidence" against other humans to lynch them, the only difference is that the mafia actually knows that they are lynching a human.Echo wrote:
That is exactly what I'm saying. There should be no evidence in posts against townies, which means mafia won't be able to bring up a valid reason to lynch a townie.0_o wrote:
So.. you are saying that the mafia is incapable of coming up with a valid reason to lynch someone?
"His buddy" being the other Mafia.BagelBob wrote:
When you say "his buddy" who are you referring to? (nardi is "a Mafia" in that sentence, yes?)strager wrote:
Woah there.
Hasty.
I have noticed nardi in the "Users browsing the forum" at the bottom on several occasions and he hasn't posted. So here's what I think.
If he is a Townie, he's going a pretty horrible job at "blending in." He stands out as a lurker and doesn't even attempt to post anything meaningful.
If he is a Mafia, he's trying to sabotage the game by the same cause so Mafia loses. That's Pretty Gay (tm).
I really doubt a Mafia would sabotage his buddy like that so I'm leaning toward the possibility of him being a Townie.
Yes, I'm defending nardi, but it's not like he's hereso he canto defend himself anyway. =\
EDIT: [strike] and added "to" to make sentence more understandable.
Um lol? You are mafia. No contradiction whatsoever.strager/agreeing with 0_o's post wrote:
Indeed. Echo himself used my mistakes as evidence that I am a Mafia, which contradicts what he says here.
Ah, kill me, I misread what you wrote. Sorry. x_xEcho wrote:
Um lol? You are mafia. No contradiction whatsoever.strager/agreeing with 0_o's post wrote:
Indeed. Echo himself used my mistakes as evidence that I am a Mafia, which contradicts what he says here.
True until proven false is your word?Echo wrote:
Until you do that, what I've said stands true.