BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.

Winnyace wrote:

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.

Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Sadly I decided once to try Manjaro on a VM, it was laggy as heck even if it was i3, couldn't even install.

Your first mistake: trying Manjaro.

Not first, my ACTUAL first was breaking Arch. Like 5 times.

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

Karmine wrote:

If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.

Isshiki Kaname wrote:

I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.

I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.

This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.

If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.

Winnyace wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.

Karmine wrote:

If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.

I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.

Isshiki Kaname wrote:

I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.

I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.

This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.

If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.

I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

Try to get a dual boot, with both Linux and Windows. If you do advanced stuff with computer you will most likely need Linux, and imo it's better having a dual boot than WSL or a virtual machine.

And it's possible in lab to still have Windows only stuff, such as Matlab.

Polyspora wrote:

just use windows

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

just use windows

Legit the best advice for people who want to get to know Linux is using Windows and WSL.
I wish I had that as my first Linux experience instead of a shitty live usb with a gnome 🤢 interface.

gnome lmao

Try KDE plasma as desktop environment

Behrauder wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

I'm probably going to study Information Systems starting next year. Do you think I should start using Linux? ChatGPT recommended Linux Mint, but I read some people online saying it's not really necessary, and now I'm confused. For programming and things like that, is Linux so superior to Windows?

I'm a student in a CS major and most students use Windows. At the labs, it is a mixture of Windows and Linux. Some teachers have expressed directly that they don't really like Linux. Ultimately, many of the things you will learn during your time there will be on Windows, with Linux supported. If you want to use Linux, go ahead and install it. Linux Mint is honestly fine. Linux is, in my opinion, better for a developer, but it depends a lot on what you're also programming.

Karmine wrote:

If you're gonna use your pc for studies don't use Linux, you'll 100% have to use stuff that's only on Windows.
You'll also most likely have to use Linux too for basic programming and stuff but WSL or a vm are more than enough for that.

I was forced during the two years out of three of college here to use Windows once because the library I used was from the DOS era and it was only ported over to Windows. Yes, you hear that right, WinBGI was something I """learnt""". WSL or a VM also works, however, if you don't want to bother with the full thing.

Isshiki Kaname wrote:

I don't know why people have this disposition that you have to be a programmer to use or need to use linux to program. Like, that makes no sense.

I mean, sure. Most Linux distributions have it easier when you want to install a dependency library or something, but like, on windows you could just download visual studio and start coding.

This disposition of "hacking" just to have a usable operating system makes no sense, too. People, we don't use Spectrums or C64's anymore. Even then, you usually just use a load command on such computers to run software.

If anything, I think TempleOS fits this false Linux disposition a lot more, because you could actually edit the OS code on runtime.

I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.

Okay, apparently using Linux is completely optional.

From what I understand, I can program perfectly well on Windows, and there are even specific cases of things that cannot be done on Linux, not to mention that I'm already used to Windows 10, so I should stick with windows, and maybe consider using a VM or WSL.

Shinku wrote:

Hi, I have a simple question, is mapping in stable possible without any problems?

I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.

If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.

great_elmo wrote:

Yes.

Shinku wrote:

Hi, I have a simple question, is mapping in stable possible without any problems?

I have been using ubuntu server for about 6 years, so I am not afraid of using the terminal and doing troubleshooting, but I have no experience with the desktop.

If possible, I am considering switching to Linux as there is no reason for me to continue using windows.

Winnyace wrote:

I agree with this. I honestly believe that, for basic things, Linux has a better desktop experience than Windows or MacOS. There are caveats, obviously, but seriously, for someone who does basic office work and multimedia, Linux works just as well as Windows, if not better.

1. VLC can't do VA-API (Intel/AMD); yeah there's VDPAU-to-VAAPI, but that's silly vs straight DXVA
2. Other players can do VA-API/anything under the sun: Fair, but you gotta find em, and know what you're doing (not a default with mpv Linux/FreeBSD; default under any sane player under Windows)
3. Firefox's handling of HEVC is real funny :p (they claim to not support it under some good-guy royalties thing, while silently supporting it Android and Windows; Windows doing it through MFT; Firefox can hardware-accel HEVC on Windows no problem free with device HEVC or that $1 thing)

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on them

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on them

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on them

Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on them

Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.

fair, I guess my problem with this and the reason why I pointed it out it's because it feels insincere?, it's fine to say you're doing it for fun, but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to me

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

I got tired of Linux games a few months ago, found Windows boring, and now I'm on FreeBSD :p

... how do you find an OS boring?

I tweak things for performance, and I got Windows down the best my hardware can do. All my software works with it well. It's boringly perfect :p

FreeBSD is offering me better performance (30min vs 40min compile) and I'm liking how it does things the deeper I look into stuff.

I mean, why do you want performance if the moment you get good performance you're going to switch and try again, OS are tools, you're supposed to do things on them

Some people prefer to tweak things endlessly. You might see them as tools, some might see them as toys. If the guy likes to spend his time this way, there is nothing wrong.

fair, I guess my problem with this and the reason why I pointed it out it's because it feels insincere?, it's fine to say you're doing it for fun, but saying you're trying x doing y because it's faster or more optimal when that really isn't the case felt bad to me

FreeBSD is faster and more optimal to me than Linux, and is faster to me than Windows. Technically Linux and FreeBSD is more optimal than Windows on my server, but I like consistency. I generally know what I'm doing :p

rikia wrote:

hey this is really helpful and made it super easy to install on arch i just wanted to ask if it's normal for FPS to tank in the editor? its 1000+ fps normally but once i enter the editor it tanks to like 50 fps consistently. not impossible but kinda uncomfortable to use

also i get stutters in-game but sometimes they go away so im not sure if thats a problem with this or my linux

rikia wrote:

hey this is really helpful and made it super easy to install on arch i just wanted to ask if it's normal for FPS to tank in the editor? its 1000+ fps normally but once i enter the editor it tanks to like 50 fps consistently. not impossible but kinda uncomfortable to use

also i get stutters in-game but sometimes they go away so im not sure if thats a problem with this or my linux

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

why necro

Winnyace wrote:

rikia wrote:

hey this is really helpful and made it super easy to install on arch i just wanted to ask if it's normal for FPS to tank in the editor? its 1000+ fps normally but once i enter the editor it tanks to like 50 fps consistently. not impossible but kinda uncomfortable to use

also i get stutters in-game but sometimes they go away so im not sure if thats a problem with this or my linux

I'm not sure what version of the game you have installed, nor your specs. Both would help out here, but at the same time, I am not sure how much I can help. Not sure if I've said this in the original post, but ThePooN's Discord Server has a section for helping people out with running osu! under Linux. You can perhaps ask there.

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

why necro

rikia wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

rikia wrote:

hey this is really helpful and made it super easy to install on arch i just wanted to ask if it's normal for FPS to tank in the editor? its 1000+ fps normally but once i enter the editor it tanks to like 50 fps consistently. not impossible but kinda uncomfortable to use

also i get stutters in-game but sometimes they go away so im not sure if thats a problem with this or my linux

I'm not sure what version of the game you have installed, nor your specs. Both would help out here, but at the same time, I am not sure how much I can help. Not sure if I've said this in the original post, but ThePooN's Discord Server has a section for helping people out with running osu! under Linux. You can perhaps ask there.

Sorry, yeah I'll just troubleshoot on discord server. I just wasn't sure if it was normal but then I realized this happens whenever osu isn't fullscreened not just on editor so it's definitely a case-by-case thing.

I'm using Arch on Plasma 6 (Wayland) but don't bother giving advice here since yeah I'll be on the discord.

My apologies for the Necro, I saw last post was 4 months ago and didn't think it would be considered a problem.

Manishh wrote:

I spent 19 hours over two days creating a Minecraft server on my second PC running Ubuntu Linux. It's headless, so I can connect to it from my main PC.

Half of that time was just spent troubleshooting why Java kept crashing. After hours of digging, I found out that the guy I got the PC from didn't apply any thermal paste, so the temperatures were hitting 85°C. I fixed that, then ran MemTest86 and at just 40% through the test, it had already logged 30,000 errors.

After reseating the RAM, the errors somehow disappeared...

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

Manishh wrote:

I spent 19 hours over two days creating a Minecraft server on my second PC running Ubuntu Linux. It's headless, so I can connect to it from my main PC.

Half of that time was just spent troubleshooting why Java kept crashing. After hours of digging, I found out that the guy I got the PC from didn't apply any thermal paste, so the temperatures were hitting 85°C. I fixed that, then ran MemTest86 and at just 40% through the test, it had already logged 30,000 errors.

After reseating the RAM, the errors somehow disappeared...

how

Doom Mood wrote:

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

Manishh wrote:

I spent 19 hours over two days creating a Minecraft server on my second PC running Ubuntu Linux. It's headless, so I can connect to it from my main PC.

Half of that time was just spent troubleshooting why Java kept crashing. After hours of digging, I found out that the guy I got the PC from didn't apply any thermal paste, so the temperatures were hitting 85°C. I fixed that, then ran MemTest86 and at just 40% through the test, it had already logged 30,000 errors.

After reseating the RAM, the errors somehow disappeared...

how

connection is loose ig

Manishh wrote:

Doom Mood wrote:

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

Manishh wrote:

I spent 19 hours over two days creating a Minecraft server on my second PC running Ubuntu Linux. It's headless, so I can connect to it from my main PC.

Half of that time was just spent troubleshooting why Java kept crashing. After hours of digging, I found out that the guy I got the PC from didn't apply any thermal paste, so the temperatures were hitting 85°C. I fixed that, then ran MemTest86 and at just 40% through the test, it had already logged 30,000 errors.

After reseating the RAM, the errors somehow disappeared...

how

connection is loose ig

How

How can the ram even fit in the slot if the connection is loose.

Reyalp51 wrote:

Dont use arch btw

Winnyace wrote:

1. Complete freedom over your system
2. Open Source
3. Super stable
4. No added spyware
5. Easier setup for developers

1. no freedom if you are not familiar with every single function
2. would you read all the code? what is the point of open source os
3. not stable anymore once you download something bad (you will)
4. you adding spyware after when installing random packages
5. not sure at all, prbobly you imagine every single developer as 200 iq person

Fujiya wrote:

wow cool thread letsgo

Winnyace wrote:

1. Complete freedom over your system
2. Open Source
3. Super stable
4. No added spyware
5. Easier setup for developers

1. no freedom if you are not familiar with every single function
2. would you read all the code? what is the point of open source os
3. not stable anymore once you download something bad (you will)
4. you adding spyware after when installing random packages
5. not sure at all, prbobly you imagine every single developer as 200 iq person

1. true-ish, there is still freedom, that is undeniable, but I don't think everyone is going to use every little function and it just makes the onboarding difficult
2. while it's true that no one reads the source code, it being open source means that there is probably going to be a lot less corporate
3. If we take stable as it "it wont bsod", linux is stable, but so is every other OS. However, if stable means it wont give you big error messages, I don't think linux is stable at all, there will be a lot of errors and shit you wont understand unless you've used linux for 5 years, but I don't think that is the fault of viruses
4. that's actually true, while the system is secure and private (in theory), it's very much not a panacea torwards total internet anonymity
5. honestly, this point is too ambiguous in winnyace's post, really, it depends on the function, I've got myself a sysadmin titulation believe it or not, and in my class, everyone hated linux

1. I
2. Am
3. Super
4. Omega
5. Gay 🏳️‍🌈

Penguin wrote:

1. I
2. Am
3. Super
4. Omega
5. Gay 🏳️‍🌈

1. congrats
2. congrats
3. congrats
4. congrats
5. congrats

Fujiya wrote:

wow cool thread letsgo

Winnyace wrote:

1. Complete freedom over your system
2. Open Source
3. Super stable
4. No added spyware
5. Easier setup for developers

1. no freedom if you are not familiar with every single function
2. would you read all the code? what is the point of open source os
3. not stable anymore once you download something bad (you will)
4. you adding spyware after when installing random packages
5. not sure at all, prbobly you imagine every single developer as 200 iq person

1. In addition to freedom to do whatever you want with the source code, there is "Freedom" to fork (aka. copy the entire code and start a new community) the code when the developer starts to do something stupid, or decided to quit w.
2. Obviously no one would read every single line of the code. But having the code open means that people with the ability to read at least some code can add a new cool feature and/or tell the general public when there's something fishy going on.
3. Point 3-4 depends on the general stupidity computer user. If they're dumb enough to install Bonzi Buddy or update their system to the "beta" version of the OS (or being Arch user), then no OS can save them.
4. Point 5 depends on what you're developing. If you're a game developer you probably better be on Windows.

Rizumu Tenshi wrote:

I may need a completely different device, a phone for example, with its notepad, to memo all the apps (and games) I need with me before I can uninstall Windows completely in favour of, say, Pop!_OS, but..............

Tetris Effect: Connected

This one is a lost cause, thanks Microsoft. I'll need to re-buy this on Steam to even get started. Unless UWP on Linux is somewhat possible......

Floral Flowlove (フローラル・フローラブ)

I have a raw dump, for starters.

Some forums out there call out the Siglus engine as the problematic when it comes to launching this game, but what they don't know is the game not only needs the Japanese locale on Windows but as well the Japanese timezone setting. If I'm down to the NekoNyan translated release, well, crap, this is the one going into the Bottles I guess......assuming it works there, if I don't need Proton for it.

If this one works, automatically any other visual novel should work.

Princess Connect! Re:Dive (プリンセスコネクト！Re:Dive)

This one honestly has me thinking all the time, since it's a DMM GAMES release, and DMM in itself could be a DRM for some out there. I tried asking r/Priconne about this, but the post was immediately filtered and auto-deleted by reddit itself, which is a shame honestly, but reddit being reddit as usual. Whether Wine or Proton will do I'm not sure, since while there's the stuff like Lutris and Heroic, whether they can take in DMM Game Player or not is the question.

If this one works, retroactively Uma Musume: Pretty Derby (ウマ娘 プリティーダービー) should work as well.

DEEMO -Reborn-

Pirated copy. I'm not going to buy this until Rayark redeem themselves after the AI fiasco.

In fact what makes this a problem is the fact I pirated it, given I don't know EXACTLY how Wine deals with these sorts of stuff. Or Proton at that. (Bottles is just a Wine interface after all.) If anyone on Linux pirated a Windows game before, any info would help.

DJMAX RESPECT V

I did not buy this yet.

XIGNCODE3.
Period.

I'll have to figure out for these aforementioned first before I can uninstall Windows, but maybe if anyone knows (please read the spoilerboxes) I could use help before experimenting with Pop!_OS (dualboot first) and getting any results, be it good or bad?

For reference:
Lenovo Legion Y540

1. Intel Core i7-9750H
2. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB
3. 16GB DDR4-2666
4. 256GB NVMe M.2 Gen3 + 1TB SATA 5400RPM

Detailed specs if curious

1. Tetris Effect: Connected: Steam Deck VERIFIED, no need to test, it'll work OOTB. In fact this was mentioned much earlier.
2. Floral Flowlove: I tested with Wine, installation and execution, since this is a raw copy, a physical dump at that, and it actually played nice. Only Linux Mint in VMware threw a VRAM error because haha VMware, but easy fix and voila.
3. Princess Connect! Re:Dive: DMM Game Player. I freaking forgot it has a piece of DRM called CrackProof, and that prevented the game from running, but apparently there's ANOTHER game, this time on Steam, that uses CrackProof but is Steam Deck Playable. Ironic, right?
4. DEEMO -Reborn-: Steam Deck PLAYABLE, could use a bit of tinkering with Proton, but the whole Rayark AI fiasco turned out to be misinformation and it's for the best to buy this game, and I'm willing.
5. DJMAX RESPECT V: Steam Deck UNSUPPORTED. As expected of XIGNCODE3, the anti-cheat. Cross this one out safely.

Rizumu Tenshi wrote:

I'm now torn between Fedora 42 and Linux Mint 22.2

Rizumu Tenshi wrote:

Princess Connect! Re:Dive: DMM Game Player. I freaking forgot it has a piece of DRM called CrackProof, and that prevented the game from running, but apparently there's ANOTHER game, this time on Steam, that uses CrackProof but is Steam Deck Playable. Ironic, right?

Jangsoodlor wrote:

Rizumu Tenshi wrote:

Princess Connect! Re:Dive: DMM Game Player. I freaking forgot it has a piece of DRM called CrackProof, and that prevented the game from running, but apparently there's ANOTHER game, this time on Steam, that uses CrackProof but is Steam Deck Playable. Ironic, right?

Have you tried lutris + proton-ge?