mapped by wafer
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This beatmap was ranked on 16 January 2024!
nominated by Shmiklak and Renumi
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updating to remove duplciate osb

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thanks to the random (feat) to (with)...

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yeyeyhehehehe

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cool

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is this quila inspo, anyway good map

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ngl im thinking of quila's transmute map when i saw this map

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it is quila inspired iirc, i think that's why some of the objects are at low volume...

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i knew it 🔥

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wish i was sent this before, i love this :3

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I'm not even questioning playability. I just don't understand the purpose of a leaderboard on maps like this. They are not meant to be played in the first place, they are art projects, so why?

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osu players try not to rage problem tag this map for 24 hrs (impossible challenge)

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I don't mean to sound angry, I really don't understand what's been and is going on

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I swear to god, write this in a comment but don't go posting a problem/suggestion stamp in qualified if you just want to voice your opinion on whether or not YOU think a map deserves to have a leaderboard unless you find an actual issue.

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I think at least 2 players successfully passed this map.

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+1, this map is REALLY cool to watch and a piece of art, but this is absolutely not what the ranked section is supposed to represent. If many people agree this is a pretty cool map this can get loved at most, but as OP said this is more of a thing you look at than something you play.

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It's very playable (see Fieryrage's plays on this)

Not sure why you think it deserves loved - as the purpose of loved is for maps that CAN'T get ranked and are popular with players / the community, which this map doesn't fall under :3

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fyiy this was absolutely meant to be played and can absolutely be played with some practice

also heads up using a problem stamp on a qualified map will ping an ABSOLUTELY insane amount of people so try not to do it if its not a real issue

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resolving cuz this type of discussion isnt supposed to be held in modding discussion

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Marked as resolved by enneya

As I said, I'm not questioning playability and I didn't mention loved. None of that is the issue. The intent that it's meant to be played just doesn't show, either in the map or the comments under the map. Most of the comments by BN's and NAT's here seem like they're actively trolling, patronizing or simply going along the map because they find the art interesting. I don't know what you guys are doing and I've been lost for a while any time a new map sparked its small reddit outrage, either because people hate the map or mapper or people hate that BN's don't like the map or mapper. While I don't get the overwhelming hate and stupidity of people with their pitchforks, I'm nearly as equally lost about the people sending maps to ranked.

I was very much aware of the notification thing.

EDIT(it's just one edit, not three):

  1. I actually like 95% of the map, maybe I should've stated it before, idk
  2. I talked with wafer in private messages, now. Everyone who replies with braindead shit, memes and not reading, you're actively making everything worse by making stuff less civil :D
  3. I know I have trouble conveying what I think efficiently, but come on... Some of you are doing much worse than what you perceive me to be doing...
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all of this comes from a wrong premise that mapping is art and that mapper's expression has more value than gameplay. it's just that nobody ever had good arguments against this, neither is it prohibited anywhere (and it shouldn't be, honestly) so it became an established viewpoint, to the point where even people butthurting over it on twitter compare it to modern art, knowing nothing about modern art either, which makes that twice as funny to read

can art be unappealing, ugly or outright disgusting? absolutely, but it is not relevant at all when talking about osu maps

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gmt bad take, trying not to write 1000 word essay on why mapping is art to save myself from the silence

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Play better lol

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i dont get it. the gameplay in the map is essential to the experience? the art is in the gameplay design

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why all of selections you decided to post this as problem 😭

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calling this "art project".. man lets be realistic here..

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Looks like I fucked up by saying "art project"

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Offset seems off at places :/ e.g. 00:12:181 (6) - 01:42:181 (1,2) - 02:16:272 (1) - 02:27:181 (1) - 03:50:362 (3) -

edit: I think needs multiple red lines to be accurate, would keep it 1 red line for simplicity

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i trust in fieryrage's timing (he timed this for me)

ill ping him and see what he has to say tho

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00:12:181 yeah this section in general would benefit from extra timing points since the acoustics aren't actually to a metronome here -- it works fine at a single bpm but fixing this won't really hurt or impact anything

01:42:181 this is fine, snare hits on both of these notes which is why there's a double

02:16:272 slightly early but barely noticeable all things considered

02:27:181 this one is fine

03:50:362 same deal with the acoustics section, this probably also needs multiple timing points -- the one you listed isn't really off-time, though, 03:48:316 (7) - this is much more noticeable

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TLDR: no change for now

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related, but not..
isn't this entire song in 2/4, you don't exactly need the 6/4 timing point.. oh well..

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resolving

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Marked as resolved by Liz Triangle

wanna explain how in a way that actually makes it an unrankable problem orrrr lmao

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my guy, you have a ranked map and 15 ranked GDs, you should know better than this...

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btw, you just pinged EVERY BN under the sun with this single message..

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he's right you know

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yea theyre right btw

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tbh i think 1/12 would be way better there cuz this is just too jarring for an improvisation 04:54:282 (26,27,28,29) - (here)

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yeah i agree the rhythm is pretty weird. any bns can fix this?

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guys, i think you're being really strange and irrational, yooou should be taking your time to be thinking in this situation or else you're going to make rash generalisations, ok

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this rhythm (frankly), is unrankable. you are all crazy for not seeing that. reevaluate this beatmap immediately and REMOVE IT FROM QUALIFIED!

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yeah I agree with the agreeable agreedge statement agree truers 👍

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best mod 😐

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04:54:282 (26,27,28,29,30) - 1/12 wouldnt land on anythign and i've been using 1/16 pretty consistently for this guitar Thing

04:53:430 (20,21,22,23) - this is the same rhythm as everything else in this section idk wy this one is an issue for u

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stay on-topic thank u fellas

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Agree with Aranel, 1/16's here are prohibitively fast and just pretty much guarantee misses, 1/12 feels like a nice compromise

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resolving

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Marked as resolved by Liz Triangle

i love this map

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wafer i dont think this is a banger but ill praise it anyways

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i can NOT believe this.

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I Can't Touch My Tooooeoooeoooeos Oeooosoooeoooes

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*can

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Vetoing for open problem stamps.

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every art piece has its cheap imitation

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Every Hivie has their Aceticke

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you may now kiss

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I ship

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Gay

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DQing to address pending issues

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this is wild

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This map is bad

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Could you please use the suggestion/problem posts to point out issues instead of spamming.

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(this is because it pings all BNs, so please don't do that :D)

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e

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Marked as resolved by wafer

why is this getting more upvotes than properly constructed mods

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cuz they speaking truth

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mapping can be more than just making levels that are comfortable. btw. songs r interpretative maps are intrinsic to that .btw

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if it didnt feel like a 5 year old mapped this you might've had a point there buuuuuuuut.

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you dont even understand the meaning behind the map sooooooooo

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crazy that this "5 year old" would still be more knowledgeable than you, must be a real genius

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reported for nonsense

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love u oomf

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i can

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dq to add 5% to like 3 objects

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tis fixed

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Marked as resolved by wafer

Pls leave me alone now

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this is a veto

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what is happening to me

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im freaking out uberfazz

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is it cuz u can touch ur toes without bending over perchance

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wafer if I get one more dq message I will go to bed early

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hes yiiking out bro

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Nooo veto 😭

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u did good wafeur

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great map!

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!

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this is fucking insane holy shit dude this map made me feel some weird shit good job wafer

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Reminder for those who're thinking of modding this mapset to materialize their common sense and throw it into an incinerator before proceeding and make sure to think twice before you create a post.

this set is nothing like you've seen before

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cheri walked so wafer can run

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great map

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yuri

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awesome storyboard and map

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god i fucking love this map

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Banger. Real Art.

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banger

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04:43:032 - You're missing "that" in the storyboard lyrics, should be "you don't have a world that you're up against" : https://imgur.com/a/U9n8RWN

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i have notified my storryboarder

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nooooo

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it's so over

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additional suggestion from apollo

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woops...

anyways, for apollo mod, the vocal sun (as i call it) is manually hand placed to be a bit more authentic.. so suggestive no change

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yea

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Marked as resolved by wafer

DQing to address pending suggestions for storyboard + other map concepts

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Marked as resolved by wafer

I'll mention it again but this is a really nice map, I really wish mappers would try and convey the feelings and experience of a song through their mapping more often. It's a shame some players and mappers aren't able to process the fact this map is well made simply because the visual style isn't what they are used to and the different avenues you explored to create emphasis and translate the song such as the breaks and rhythm choices.

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LETS GOOO

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So we taking Additives to a next level or what?

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yes i am using additive rhythms, can you explain your concern with how they're utilized?

I don't understand the point of the post 😅

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05:09:794 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - can you explain to me what this is please

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additive rhythms for the climax of the song

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I would argue that the song is kinda dropping down so having such intense Additives (to the point of 1/16th?) Feels incredibly silly

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simply put, using less dense rhythms than the ones i've been utilizing would not feel fitting as the climax - hence i've opted for additive rhythms to help create that climax

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the 1/16 is just 1/8th (in the song) but also overmapped for Climax

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I have to agree with Sh3rg_ on that one , the song is clearly dropping in entisity
that additive doesnt really fit ?
Maybe a reversed slider at the end and lower spacing would be more fitting..?
Cuz it's clearly way overspaced to the previous part to it

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I interpret this as the climax - finally waking up from the dream and feeling that dissonance and disconnect from dream and reality.

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That sounds really cringe but TLDR: I feel like it's a great climax to the map and a good resolution that wouldn't feel as satisfying any other way

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I gotta add stories to my maps

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Ok whatever im fine with whatever this is

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Marked as resolved by Sh4rq_

awesome, thank you for being open minded

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go go go

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yippee

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greatest map ever

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This map is nuts and I like it, I hope this doesn't get DQ'ed

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i cried

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this map is not real (it’s so fucking cool)

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sb is literally perfect, just one thing i wanna clarify -- it feels as though the vocal chop effect should encompass all of 03:41:839 -> 04:24:453? since the singer repeatedly slices up the vocals into two syllables but it's only done for "hea-vens" on 03:52:748 -

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we good

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Marked as resolved by Renumi

explained with wafer on this one, but i'll condense it here..
(yes, it does look like a "subjective no change".. but here me out)

I didn't really have any plans at first to split up each of the longer words but wanted to bring attention to said longer words. so i essentially did one to heavens and didn't think much of it..

after looking back, i started to realise that it kind of plays nicely into the theme of noticing something is wrong, knowing that it can't be fixed at the time but having to live with the fact it's there. only then for it to become worse every time you look at it.
I essentially attempted to convey gender dysphoria in some way or another throughout the Afterlife section (what i call the underwater section), not one that is truly accurate to anyone experiencing it. but more on a artistic level.

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Holy fuck

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thanks for the feedback!

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this map is cool

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damn

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sb idea

04:32:634 - bro can we get the reflections blurred that would be SICK

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-00:05:504 - might perhaps want to mention that it's better to play with resolution that's 16:9?

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that was supposed to be negative not a dash, modding panel cant handle negative timestamps :skull:

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I essentially made all of my assets with 1920x1080 in mind and prefer to state that.
Also, nice idea to blur, will do.

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yea

this has been done

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Marked as resolved by wafer

bro your white is literally white, might suggest simply removing kiai so we arent breaking any guidelines or make it darker

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its fine, its only used for one reverse slider in a kiai and i think that really bright flash works super well for that 'jumpscare'

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Marked as resolved by wafer

ye

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Marked as resolved by wafer

unironically love it

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!!!

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waflya

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Gaming!

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what the fuck is this

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i can't touch my toes

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Srry

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Marked as resolved by wafer

Gyat (girl you ate that)

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you need to leave

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hello

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hi

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transparent breaks silent passes/fails!

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yea!

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Marked as resolved by wafer

i love underscores. i love jane remover. i love this map.

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this is junk and it goes hard

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we could add some extra tags in there.. just in case..
leroy secretariat s*nny mara inlaws Kinko's field trip
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leroy - previous alias of Jane Remover, also creator of the dariacore genre
inlaws - a demo that was showcased in a production livestream underscores (note, pronouns for both main artist and jane are she/her) worked on.
kinko's field trip (ommited 2006 as that might confuse tag searchers) - some lyrics used from this song

Below are spoilers for the Wallsocket album / ARG
Please checkout their album and check around the websites.
secretariat - fictional medical company from Wallsocket which provides arm reduction surgery
s*nny - one of the main girls of this story, trans-girl with a father who committed fraud at a bank
mara - main character of this song, actively stalked s*nny and attempted to be like her, also had beef with old money bitch (the other main girl in this story who's father works at secretariat). She also is the person who grew "uncanny long arms" and attempted to get them shortened through secretariat.

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Akchtually its leroy

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dont wanna include leroy cus jane doesnt want to be associated with it iirc

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then in terms of additional tags, inlaws and kinko's field trip should be good..

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yepyep will add the other suggseted ones

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yes!

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Marked as resolved by wafer

He wanted a playtest and I ended up doing a snapping mod

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Sneak preview (there was a lot more than just this)

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Yea thank you fiery!

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Marked as resolved by wafer

peak

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can you quoicoubaka my crampté please ?

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Ascension to Heaven

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hes ascending

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a

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: O

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Type here to post to General (All difficulties)

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!!!

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saving mapping once again

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Hmm yes

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are you doin okay wafer

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awesome map :)

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thank you

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yssss

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AAAAAAAAA TY FOR MAPPING THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

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np

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onesitmapping

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yea did it

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assdffgjj oh ghjhhhjjkjjj

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forswoxh

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