nmk - sola

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Yales
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年2月22日 at 21:57:55

Artist: nmk
Title: sola
Source: BMS
Tags: Touhou 東方音弾遊戯6 taketori hishou 竹取飛翔 ~ Lunatic Princess Veridian PolkaMocha
BPM: 195
Filesize: 6070kb
Play Time: 02:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (3.31 stars, 406 notes)
  2. Lunatic (4.73 stars, 672 notes)
  3. Normal (2.01 stars, 175 notes)
  4. Polka's Advanced (2.51 stars, 310 notes)
  5. Unfading Nightmares (5.75 stars, 782 notes)


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modededddeddd in game?

Yea ?
hmm
yea i think i did
a bit
:)
Topic Starter
Yales
KD goes for helpful check IG, we lost savelog.
Ora
Short, but hopefully some of it helps

Normal
00:28:365 (1,2) - Not very important, but you might be able to make this look nicer with the blanket
00:51:442 (1,2) - again, I don't like modding blankets, but this can be nicer
01:07:750 (5,6,1) - TBH this pattern looks a little bit lazy and unappealing. I don't care much about the overlap, but the flow isn't very nice.
01:09:904 (2) - Slight movement of the sliderend to x461 y209
01:18:212 (5,6) - I'm not sure what the rules are on this, but Idk about these sliders for "Normal" difficulty, especially under 2*
01:59:135 (2) - Same as this. I think you can make this a single cirlce
02:04:058 (2) - ^
02:13:442 (2,3) - This pattern will be very confusing for a beginner
00:06:519 (2,3) - 00:26:827 (7,1) - 00:40:365 (4,5) - These patterns will also be too much for Normal. But I'm not too sure how you could change it to the beat
01:09:904 (2,6) - I know I made a mod to the position of this but now that I think about it, I think for normal difficulty they should be single circles
Hard

00:51:442 (4,5,1) - You use different spacing here than you do here 00:52:365 (3,4,5) - with the same pattern. I assume intentional, but maybe explain? D:
01:16:365 (3) - Possible give this part a little bit more flow and give the slider some curve (optional) Something like this
01:34:212 (3,4) - move to x211 y272
01:47:442 (1) - ctrl + j like you have it here 01:59:135 (7,1) -
01:49:289 (3,1,2) - The spacing between these are different, you can just move 01:49:596 (1,2) - up a little bit if you want
02:14:827 (5,6,7,8,1) - Personally on this part I feel you should go a little bit easier and make this 2 sliders and a circle for the end. Reasoning is that you don't have any other part in the map where you do this, but if you have a good reason for it then keep!
Artikash
Unfading Nightmares:
overall i dont like your use of kicksliders, most of the time circles would be better i think
00:01:289 (1,2,1) - feels like a circle should be on the white tick if you're following that rhythm
00:04:981 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - kinda awkward to play line patterns
00:11:135 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - same as first, its even more confusing cause the slider is so close it feels like it should be tapped a half beat after instead of a full one
00:22:827 (3,4) - i think circles fit better for these notes
00:27:750 (3,4,1,2) - ^
00:44:212 (7) - ^
00:44:981 (5,6,7,8) - kinda awkward to sight read, these look like theyre 1/4 apart
00:47:289 (1,2,3) - not sure what you mapped this to, seems overmapped
00:52:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^ and i think kicksliders are unneeded here too, the previous pattern like this seemed to hold notes for 1/4 while this holds for 1/2 though i might be imagining things
00:57:135 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:14:827 (1,2) - cirlces for these too
01:19:289 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:28:673 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i think more uniform spacing fits the song better
01:38:673 (2,3,4) - not sure what you mapped this to, seems overmapped
01:41:289 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - its just a consisent 1/4 in the song, i think a big stream fits better
01:44:365 (1) - circle for this too
01:46:981 (4) - ^
01:51:442 (1,2,3,4) - continue the stream
02:06:365 (2,3,4) - circles for this too
02:11:135 (3,4,1,2) - ^
Aia's insane:
this seems a lot better, not as much to say
00:19:750 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - you suddenly switch off of the rhythm you were following for no good reason it seems
00:54:519 (3,4) - ^
00:58:212 (2,3,4) - ^
01:05:289 (1,2) - overmapped?
01:47:135 (1) - this is the most intense part of the song, but there isnt a difficulty spike to match
01:49:596 (1,2,3,4) - for example you could make this a stream to create mentioned difficulty spike
01:54:058 (6,7,8) - overmapped
i suck at mapping below 4* so ill stop with these diffs

sry if this wasnt very helpful, this is my first mod and this song is more complex rhythmically than what ive mapped
Topic Starter
Yales

Ora wrote:

Short, but hopefully some of it helps

Normal
00:28:365 (1,2) - Not very important, but you might be able to make this look nicer with the blanket Good enough to me
00:51:442 (1,2) - again, I don't like modding blankets, but this can be nicer Same here, no problem with the blanket
01:07:750 (5,6,1) - TBH this pattern looks a little bit lazy and unappealing. I don't care much about the overlap, but the flow isn't very nice. It flows great in my opinion :x
01:09:904 (2) - Slight movement of the sliderend to x461 y209 fixed a bit
01:18:212 (5,6) - I'm not sure what the rules are on this, but Idk about these sliders for "Normal" difficulty, especially under 2* It gives a different ryhtym and it's something pretty common in normals.
01:59:135 (2) - Same as this. I think you can make this a single cirlce
02:04:058 (2) - ^
02:13:442 (2,3) - This pattern will be very confusing for a beginner I'll wait other complains for a changement cause it just follows the movement.
00:06:519 (2,3) - 00:26:827 (7,1) - 00:40:365 (4,5) - These patterns will also be too much for Normal. But I'm not too sure how you could change it to the beat
01:09:904 (2,6) - I know I made a mod to the position of this but now that I think about it, I think for normal difficulty they should be single circles
Hard

00:51:442 (4,5,1) - You use different spacing here than you do here 00:52:365 (3,4,5) - with the same pattern. I assume intentional, but maybe explain? D: Pattern might be somehow similar, the music is different and I feel it calls for a speed up in the first one. The hitsounds clearly show it.
01:16:365 (3) - Possible give this part a little bit more flow and give the slider some curve (optional) Something like this Flow is good
01:34:212 (3,4) - move to x211 y272 not sure why but.. .why not x:
01:47:442 (1) - ctrl + j like you have it here 01:59:135 (7,1) - It offers some variations and tbh I prefer the flow of that one xD
01:49:289 (3,1,2) - The spacing between these are different, you can just move 01:49:596 (1,2) - up a little bit if you want right
02:14:827 (5,6,7,8,1) - Personally on this part I feel you should go a little bit easier and make this 2 sliders and a circle for the end. Reasoning is that you don't have any other part in the map where you do this, but if you have a good reason for it then keep! It's the final..
Thanks for your check.

Artikash wrote:

Unfading Nightmares:
overall i dont like your use of kicksliders, most of the time circles would be better i think
00:01:289 (1,2,1) - feels like a circle should be on the white tick if you're following that rhythm
00:04:981 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - kinda awkward to play line patterns
00:11:135 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - same as first, its even more confusing cause the slider is so close it feels like it should be tapped a half beat after instead of a full one
00:22:827 (3,4) - i think circles fit better for these notes
00:27:750 (3,4,1,2) - ^
00:44:212 (7) - ^
00:44:981 (5,6,7,8) - kinda awkward to sight read, these look like theyre 1/4 apart
00:47:289 (1,2,3) - not sure what you mapped this to, seems overmapped
00:52:212 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - ^ and i think kicksliders are unneeded here too, the previous pattern like this seemed to hold notes for 1/4 while this holds for 1/2 though i might be imagining things
00:57:135 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
01:14:827 (1,2) - cirlces for these too
01:19:289 (3,4,5,6) - ^
01:28:673 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - i think more uniform spacing fits the song better
01:38:673 (2,3,4) - not sure what you mapped this to, seems overmapped
01:41:289 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - its just a consisent 1/4 in the song, i think a big stream fits better
01:44:365 (1) - circle for this too
01:46:981 (4) - ^
01:51:442 (1,2,3,4) - continue the stream
02:06:365 (2,3,4) - circles for this too
02:11:135 (3,4,1,2) - ^
Aia's insane:
this seems a lot better, not as much to say
00:19:750 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - you suddenly switch off of the rhythm you were following for no good reason it seems
00:54:519 (3,4) - ^
00:58:212 (2,3,4) - ^
01:05:289 (1,2) - overmapped?
01:47:135 (1) - this is the most intense part of the song, but there isnt a difficulty spike to match
01:49:596 (1,2,3,4) - for example you could make this a stream to create mentioned difficulty spike
01:54:058 (6,7,8) - overmapped
i suck at mapping below 4* so ill stop with these diffs

sry if this wasnt very helpful, this is my first mod and this song is more complex rhythmically than what ive mapped
Nothing is overmapped in my diff, I can assure you (neither it is on aia's one), if you listen properly you'll hear that there's something behing each notes. My map is well structured most likely with the use of the kick sliders. You said "streams would be better" may I ask you why? Because you know kick sliders are, as well as streams, 1/4. I placed them to make a speed up by highlighting some points. So I really wonder how you would find that streams would be better?
Well, since you asked me to change something foundamental in the map, you'll understand that i'll deny it. Mods are supposed to help the mapper to improve the map in THEIR sense. But you seem you want me to change it in YOUR sense, which isn't going to happen for sure. You can map it too otherwise e.e

Thanks for your check anyway
Artikash
You said "streams would be better" may I ask you why?
imo kicksliders should be used when the 1/4 sounds are different somehow to match how a slider end doesnt haveto be clicked and is less intense than a slider start. for example an instrument sounds for 1/4 then goes silent for 1/4 repeat. as opposed to a drum constantly hitting every 1/4 because a kickslider doesnt reflect the "sameness"

ofc i shouldnt tell you how to map, but u asked and thats why i said certain sliders should be replaced (notably 01:51:442 (1,2,3,4) )
Topic Starter
Yales

Artikash wrote:

ofc i shouldnt tell you how to map, but u asked and thats why i said certain sliders should be replaced (notably 01:51:442 (1,2,3,4) )
No... You don't get it. The kicksliders speed up the movement in a way that it actually ACCENTUATES the melody more than a stream would do. Rhythm wise it's objectively the same (except that indeed, sometimes kicksliders can be okay in some places that streams would sound overmapped). You're overrating streams in my point of view.

For example... You were pointing this out 00:22:827 (3,4) - the music seems to go higher and higher here. That's why the kick sliders have a higher and higher DS. But, you asked me to change 00:22:827 (3,4) - to streams which would totally break the movement and the purpose of it (as well as the pattern for that matter).

The music sounds pretty streamy, but at the end, in my map, there's more jumps than streams in it (offset by kicksliders) it's my way to map, it's my way to see the song. It's objectively right to do it as well. And I can understand you didn't expect that, but it's not wrong. And I'd be glad if you could see what I was trying to express and mod it in fonction of this, instead of "I wouldn't map this way, change everything". If you know what I mean. xD

But don't worry, I can understand you might not like something. And you're beginner at modding as well :3
Thanks for your time anyway, and if you have some questions about my answer or what, feel free to ask me here or catch me IG!
MaridiuS
[Unfading Nightmares]
00:20:058 (5,6,7,8) - maybe emphasize the drum roll somehow
00:28:212 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - this flow is too hard for mouse or i'm probably bad, maybe some testplays on this would be useful.
00:33:827 - you missed a 3stack that you usually do not ignore, this is probably a mistake.
00:40:135 - 00:40:442 - as there are beats here maybe turn 00:40:058 (5,8) - into kicksliders.
00:52:519 - 00:52:596 - 00:52:673 - because of these 3 beats the pattern feels weird, maybe a use of 3stack won't hurt.
00:54:519 (3) - this slider kinda feels random, i'd transform it into circles.
00:55:442 (1) - my recommendation is to keep the DS from 00:54:827 (4,5,6,7) - this pattern going even for this pattern, it would look better and play better imho. Or place it somehow so that it is circled around by those single taps.
01:04:596 (2,1) - ugh i don't think that the hanzer stream is suitable here, I'd use a blue tick kick slider lul.
01:04:827 (1,2) - jump is way too sudden, i think it's the highest jump in the map lol
01:05:289 (1,3) - fix blanket
01:14:596 - is as strong as 01:14:750 (6) - therefore 5stack!? but pattern looks good so its kinda sad
01:17:596 (1,2) - fix blanket
01:27:135 (1) - maybe 1/16?
01:32:058 (3) - The kickslider in this pattern is kinda the only one with an angle this off compared to other in the pattern, imo doesn't look good.
01:32:365 (1,2,3) - I know that you're making a pattern But (1) and (2) sound like they are equally strong therefore same jump imo.
01:32:981 (1,2) - in this case (2) sounds stronger than (1), i can clearly hear the buff beat when i relisten to it, but 1 to 2 is bigger jump than 2 to 3, a little tweak in the pattern would not hurt imo.
01:35:904 (8) - 01:35:981 (9) - i suggest ignoring the blue tick or doing a kick slider, the offbeat has a really high pitched sounds which makes me want to jump, to me it felt a little bit anti-climatic.
01:45:904 (1,2) - making this into a kickslider plays better i think
01:42:981 (6,7,8) - is this even in DS, it looks really weird.
01:44:212 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - blanket it because the curve doesn't look good now.
01:47:442 (2,3) - 01:48:058 (2,3) - imo they should have same distance.
01:50:289 - i would not skip this beat...
01:51:750 (3,4) - make them overlap with the same amount of surface.
02:00:058 (4) - Hm the sliderstart and sliderend sound like they're of same intensity, so make jumps?
02:01:596 (1,2) - idk but those sounds are quite different than 02:01:289 (1,2) - but they have same patterning. If it were me I would emphasize them by going back and forth with those two, or just CTRL+G http://puu.sh/qtX8p/51ccb64c3c.jpg something like this
02:06:519 (3,4) - imo should be a 5stack because the drum has same intensity on every 1/4 beat.


Nice map, good luck. (m4m from modreqs lul)
Topic Starter
Yales

MaridiuS wrote:

[Unfading Nightmares]
00:20:058 (5,6,7,8) - maybe emphasize the drum roll somehow As it's the last note of of that DS I feel that it's already doing its job, not to mention that it's a stream, hence you do hit the note.
00:28:212 (2,1,2,1,2,1) - this flow is too hard for mouse or i'm probably bad, maybe some testplays on this would be useful. Well, ya. I don't have that much problem with it myself so I don't know, we'll see.
00:33:827 - you missed a 3stack that you usually do not ignore, this is probably a mistake. I didn't place it all the time (cf. 00:28:519 (2,1,2,1,2) - 00:23:442 (1,2,3,4,5) -
00:40:135 - 00:40:442 - as there are beats here maybe turn 00:40:058 (5,8) - into kicksliders. Well, they're barely audible (and I'm not even sure there actually is a beat on the first point) so I prefer to emphasize the beats that are more noticable than usual than putting a full stream which would hide it.
00:52:519 - 00:52:596 - 00:52:673 - because of these 3 beats the pattern feels weird, maybe a use of 3stack won't hurt. I used the same pattern at the same rhythm placement the whole map though..
00:54:519 (3) - this slider kinda feels random, i'd transform it into circles. Since the rhythm changes from the first section I didn't want to make it too heavy and put more sliders (cf. 00:53:904 (7) - ) rather than full circles, it separates the first part to the second this way.
00:55:442 (1) - my recommendation is to keep the DS from 00:54:827 (4,5,6,7) - this pattern going even for this pattern, it would look better and play better imho. Or place it somehow so that it is circled around by those single taps. Fixed a bit the placement
01:04:596 (2,1) - ugh i don't think that the hanzer stream is suitable here, I'd use a blue tick kick slider lul. I think it fits and I like how those "hanzer streams" plays actually, as long as it's not TOO spaced.
01:04:827 (1,2) - jump is way too sudden, i think it's the highest jump in the map lol ?? no. there's a 1/2 gap. It's exactly the same distance as 01:05:135 (2,1) - and 00:56:212 (7,8) - is way higher for just an example. You might have thought this was a 1/4 gap? Because it really does play by itself.
01:05:289 (1,3) - fix blanket Blanket seems fine to me.
01:14:596 - is as strong as 01:14:750 (6) - therefore 5stack!? but pattern looks good so its kinda sad The kick sliders are here to emphasize the melody (by making use of the hihats to justify the overmap lmao)
01:17:596 (1,2) - fix blanket Improved a tiny bit
01:27:135 (1) - maybe 1/16? Let's try, I've also put the previous one 1/12 by following the same logic, we'll see what people think.
01:32:058 (3) - The kickslider in this pattern is kinda the only one with an angle this off compared to other in the pattern, imo doesn't look good. I love how it looks though xD (for the record, this is the first pattern I mapped in that map).
01:32:365 (1,2,3) - I know that you're making a pattern But (1) and (2) sound like they are equally strong therefore same jump imo. No. Sometimes it's ok to make a jump right after the intense beat if you're going to a standard ds after that. Here 01:32:365 (1) - is emphasize by the fact the note is alone and then you "jump" to come back to a normal pace, it totally highlights 01:32:365 (1) - this way and put the repetition here 01:32:519 (2) - into something commonplace.
01:32:981 (1,2) - in this case (2) sounds stronger than (1), i can clearly hear the buff beat when i relisten to it, but 1 to 2 is bigger jump than 2 to 3, a little tweak in the pattern would not hurt imo. The purpose of this pattern isn't which beat is stronger than the other. It's emphasize 01:32:673 (3) - and 01:33:289 (3) - by the repetition. I think it represents the feel I have of this part pretty well.
01:35:904 (8) - 01:35:981 (9) - i suggest ignoring the blue tick or doing a kick slider, the offbeat has a really high pitched sounds which makes me want to jump, to me it felt a little bit anti-climatic. sliders being more catchy (and kick sliders faster) than circles, I really the emphasize is where it should as it is rn.
01:45:904 (1,2) - making this into a kickslider plays better i think Right, fixed.
01:42:981 (6,7,8) - is this even in DS, it looks really weird. Not sure what's wrong?
01:44:212 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - blanket it because the curve doesn't look good now. Fixed a tiny bit.
01:47:442 (2,3) - 01:48:058 (2,3) - imo they should have same distance. Not sure why.. 01:48:212 (3) - leads to another melody.
01:50:289 - i would not skip this beat... I'll see what I do with this, because I'm not quite sure there's actually a beat there.
01:51:750 (3,4) - make them overlap with the same amount of surface. Fixed
02:00:058 (4) - Hm the sliderstart and sliderend sound like they're of same intensity, so make jumps? I like the way the flow recreates the feel of the music though.
02:01:596 (1,2) - idk but those sounds are quite different than 02:01:289 (1,2) - but they have same patterning. If it were me I would emphasize them by going back and forth with those two, or just CTRL+G http://puu.sh/qtX8p/51ccb64c3c.jpg something like this Once more, this is the same hihats I'm following since the beginning of the map (til the end), they're meant to go together.
02:06:519 (3,4) - imo should be a 5stack because the drum has same intensity on every 1/4 beat. ^ same


Nice map, good luck. (m4m from modreqs lul)
Thanks for your mod !

edit: added the kickslider here 01:44:981 (5) - after one year of consideration lmao
EMachine03
This is not a mod, but just saying, there are WAYYYY too many spinners in the Normal difficulty. I see how you're trying to make the Normal kind of be an easy-normal, but can there not be a spinner every 4 notes? It gets boring.
Topic Starter
Yales

EMachine03 wrote:

This is not a mod, but just saying, there are WAYYYY too many spinners in the Normal difficulty. I see how you're trying to make the Normal kind of be an easy-normal, but can there not be a spinner every 4 notes? It gets boring.
It fits the song though XD
rohasshiki
Sorry for the late mod, I've been busy but this is for the M4M.

I'm doing two difficulties, sorry that I can't do all of them right now.

Aia's Insane
  1. Samples could probably be a little louder at the start, it feels almost insignificant with how quiet the notes are.
  2. To me something about 00:38:827 (3,4,5) - feels a little off, it kinda disrupts the flow to have a triple here
  3. 00:41:289 (3,4,5) - same as above but not as bad, probably because it isn't as hectic afterwards.
  4. 01:29:596 (4,5) - this jump feels a little too far
  5. 01:36:058 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is inconsistent since they're all the same distance away time-wise
  6. 01:50:827 (1,2,3,4) - A little misleading since before everything mapped like this was 1/4 instead of 1/2
  7. 02:01:289 (4,5) - same as above but it's fine, I'm just kinda stupid
  8. In general be careful about overmapping triples because they're pretty hard for this level of map to have so many of them in a row imo
  9. Sorry there's not too much else I noticed, it's a pretty good map so there wasn't a lot I could find.


Hard
  1. The entire beginning section is a little awkward because of the timing, don't know how you might fix it if you want to.
  2. 00:08:365 (1,2) - It's not clear how far apart these should be, maybe a slider would be better here
  3. 00:26:981 (5,1) - This jump is kind of misleading, these notes feel too slow compared to the flow you have going here
  4. 00:31:904 (6,1) - jump here is too small for how large the timing distance is, especially since 00:31:750 (5,6) - this jump is almost the same size but twice as fast
  5. Might just be my opinion but the second half of the song has too many spinners. I know the beat might be hard to map but the spinners get very repetitive and I think there are too many.
  6. 01:42:519 (1) - I know it starts on a white tick but this slider doesn't really hit any note at all, so I think it should be moved.
  7. 01:47:442 (1) - Same as above. I know it sets up the next slider, but it still feels kinda out of place
  8. 01:52:365 (1) - Same as above
  9. 01:57:289 (1) - Same as above
  10. All I really saw here, it's a pretty well made map. Good luck in the ranking process!
Lexis
[General]

French : Les hitsounds au début (5%) sont très durs à entendre, je pense que tu devrais monter le son (15% passe bien)
English : The hitsounds at the beginning (5%) are very hard to hear, I think you should up a bit the volume (15% is good)

[Normal]

00:06:519 (2) - Si tu bouges ce cercle en x312 y244, ca crée une blanket qui passe assez bien, après tu peux aussi blanket la fin de 00:04:981 (1) - avec 00:06:673 (3) - ce qui rend un patterne assez bien. Après je comprends que tu veuilles garder le tien, le flow passe très bien

00:28:365 (1,3) - L'overlap sur le début du slider assez bof mais bon ._.

00:34:519 (3,5) - Essaie de créer une "blanket"


00:45:596 (2,2) - Overlap assez moyen, ca fait missread les novices

00:51:442 (1,2) - Refais la blanket vers la fin du slider 2

00:55:442 (4,1) - Voir le passage en violet et sa box en dessous

01:07:750 (5,1) - Bof comme overlap en normal, ca fait missread les novices

01:32:365 (1,2,3) - Essaie de faire en sorte que 2 blanket 1 et overlap légèrement 3

[Je sais pas si celui qui a fait la advanced est francais donc je modde pas xD Je passe a la hard]

[Hard]

00:12:981 (3,4,1,2,3) - Patterne assez étrange, mais ok~

00:33:904 (3,4,1) - Blankets a améliorer

01:08:365 (3,4,1) - Si tu veux garder ce double overlap, il serait mieux d'incliner différemment (4), car le "corps" & la "tête" du slider 4 overlap 1, ce qui rend l'overlap moins beau a voir

01:15:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Ceci était le moment droit, sponsorisé par LaRègle®

01:53:904 (3,4) - Blanket a améliorer

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Voila c'est tout pour moi ^^
Topic Starter
Yales

rohasshiki wrote:

Sorry for the late mod, I've been busy but this is for the M4M. It isn't even close to be late compared to some other mods dw xD

I'm doing two difficulties, sorry that I can't do all of them right now.

Aia's Insane
  1. Samples could probably be a little louder at the start, it feels almost insignificant with how quiet the notes are. Yes, I made them a bit higher.
  2. To me something about 00:38:827 (3,4,5) - feels a little off, it kinda disrupts the flow to have a triple here
  3. 00:41:289 (3,4,5) - same as above but not as bad, probably because it isn't as hectic afterwards.
  4. 01:29:596 (4,5) - this jump feels a little too far I thought the same, but it's not that bad. Maybe putting 01:29:750 (5) - around x144y316 would help get back in the flow.
  5. 01:36:058 (1,2,3) - Spacing here is inconsistent since they're all the same distance away time-wise
  6. 01:50:827 (1,2,3,4) - A little misleading since before everything mapped like this was 1/4 instead of 1/2
  7. 02:01:289 (4,5) - same as above but it's fine, I'm just kinda stupid
  8. In general be careful about overmapping triples because they're pretty hard for this level of map to have so many of them in a row imo
  9. Sorry there's not too much else I noticed, it's a pretty good map so there wasn't a lot I could find.


I'll let Aia fix things if needed.

Hard
  1. The entire beginning section is a little awkward because of the timing, don't know how you might fix it if you want to. What's wrong with my timing :c
  2. 00:08:365 (1,2) - It's not clear how far apart these should be, maybe a slider would be better here Well, the pattern might look a bit tricky, but melody is clear and DS is respected, I can't be more concrete.
  3. 00:26:981 (5,1) - This jump is kind of misleading, these notes feel too slow compared to the flow you have going here Well, I did it the whole song at the same place because I feel it's THE part that needs to be emphasized. And I even hiighlighted it with my hitsounds!
  4. 00:31:904 (6,1) - jump here is too small for how large the timing distance is, especially since 00:31:750 (5,6) - this jump is almost the same size but twice as fast Well... 00:31:750 (5,6) - is a jump, 00:31:904 (6,1) - isn't. Once more, I'm emphasizing those 2 notes 00:31:750 (5,6) - then I get back to normal DS
  5. Might just be my opinion but the second half of the song has too many spinners. I know the beat might be hard to map but the spinners get very repetitive and I think there are too many. There's a lot of spinners. Though I like how they fit as the song allows them.
  6. 01:42:519 (1) - I know it starts on a white tick but this slider doesn't really hit any note at all, so I think it should be moved. It is mapped on something though. Yes it's not as strong as the end of the spinner but there's something for sure. Also, since it's on white tick, it helps the player to get back on track pretty easily.
  7. 01:47:442 (1) - Same as above. I know it sets up the next slider, but it still feels kinda out of place
  8. 01:52:365 (1) - Same as above
  9. 01:57:289 (1) - Same as above
  10. All I really saw here, it's a pretty well made map. Good luck in the ranking process!
Thanks!

Lexis wrote:

[General]

French : Les hitsounds au début (5%) sont très durs à entendre, je pense que tu devrais monter le son (15% passe bien) Je vais les mettre a 10% déjà x)
English : The hitsounds at the beginning (5%) are very hard to hear, I think you should up a bit the volume (15% is good)

[Normal]

00:06:519 (2) - Si tu bouges ce cercle en x312 y244, ca crée une blanket qui passe assez bien, après tu peux aussi blanket la fin de 00:04:981 (1) - avec 00:06:673 (3) - ce qui rend un patterne assez bien. Après je comprends que tu veuilles garder le tien, le flow passe très bien Oui, je préfére mon flow, le tiens serait quand même pas assez lisse, puis ça m'obligerait a retoucher le DS, ça vaut pas le coup x)

00:28:365 (1,3) - L'overlap sur le début du slider assez bof mais bon ._. J'aime bien

00:34:519 (3,5) - Essaie de créer une "blanket" Fix


00:45:596 (2,2) - Overlap assez moyen, ca fait missread les novices Je le trouve bien x) puis quand t'es novice généralement, tu suis les numéros, étant donné que c'est vraiment que le début du pattern, ça passe.

00:51:442 (1,2) - Refais la blanket vers la fin du slider 2 ca passe xd

00:55:442 (4,1) - Voir le passage en violet et sa box en dessous Mais la non, il faut que ca ait la meme forme, bien plus joli que faire un blanket.

01:07:750 (5,1) - Bof comme overlap en normal, ca fait missread les novices Ca me convient encore une fois

01:32:365 (1,2,3) - Essaie de faire en sorte que 2 blanket 1 et overlap légèrement 3 nah, j'aime bien mon pattern. Blanket too mainstream x)

[Je sais pas si celui qui a fait la advanced est francais donc je modde pas xD Je passe a la hard]

[Hard]

00:12:981 (3,4,1,2,3) - Patterne assez étrange, mais ok~ =w=

00:33:904 (3,4,1) - Blankets a améliorer Ca passe, j'aime pas quand le slider est trop arrondis juste pour le blanket x: Je préfère le cote oldstyle :D

01:08:365 (3,4,1) - Si tu veux garder ce double overlap, il serait mieux d'incliner différemment (4), car le "corps" & la "tête" du slider 4 overlap 1, ce qui rend l'overlap moins beau a voir J'ai retouché un peu le pattern.. a voir.

01:15:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2) - Ceci était le moment droit, sponsorisé par LaRègle® lol, ouais mais j'aime bien xD

01:53:904 (3,4) - Blanket a améliorer fix

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Voila c'est tout pour moi ^^
Merci beaucoup !
sahuang
consider making Hard around 3.7-3.8*, current gap is too big
tbh this Hard is just sth like Advanced cuz mostly it's following ds and very easy compared to insane where there are so many 1/4s and quite a few jumps.
I just think you need another difficulty here,like light insane or hyper.

edit: 11 spinners in hard..thats a pretty weird way of expressing this song lmao
Syph
hi m4m, this song is awesome
you're probably gonna need a diff between hard and insane cuz holy that's a big gap

[Normal]

SPINNERSSSSS AAAAAAAAA
also a good diff lo

[Polka's Advanced]

seems good

[Hard]

01:11:750 (2) - sounds pretty weird, i'd do a 1/1 slider at 01:11:904 - to follow the same sound as 01:11:442 (1) -
01:13:904 - place a note here and then spinner pls
01:21:596 (2) - same as earlier
01:26:519 - why would u ignore those awesome sounds ;w; you could do like sliders with increasing sv like this or smth https://sy.phic.al/i/jyymblg.jpg
02:05:596 (1) - same as earlier!
02:14:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - i love pp /s

[Aia's Insane]

00:41:904 (1,2) - i expected 1 to be an extended slider lol these are so close to eachother, maybe consider giving it a bit more distance
01:01:519 (6,1) - is this intentionally stacked like this because it looks weird
01:59:442 (1,2,3) - this felt a bit weird to play, smth like this might work better https://sy.phic.al/i/cyzuewr.jpg


[Unfading Nightmares]

00:23:135 (1) - consider silencing sliderend, sounds a bit better to me
01:17:442 (7,1) - imo this needs a lot more distance, the sound on 1 is really strong, you could try ctrlg 1 maybe
01:56:981 (1) - more distance pls ctrl g would work
01:58:212 (1,2) - wayyyy too much distance
02:16:673 (1) - centering this inbetween 02:16:212 (1,1,1) - would look a bit better tbh, 326|255 should be good

this diff is so good hOLY

good luck~
DeRandom Otaku
m4m from ur q

General

  1. Disable widescreen support and countdown they are both unnecessary

Normal

  1. 00:02:519 - make this clickable? remove repeat of slider and add circle instead
  2. 00:45:596 (2,2) - small overlaps like this look aagly :< .... overlap them more and just remove overlap
  3. 00:52:981 (1,2) - 00:54:212 (3,4) - since its the easiest diff of the set , flows like this could be a bit hard to read for newbies
  4. 01:21:289 (5,2) - not parallel .-.
    holy.. soo many spinners

Polka's Advanced

  1. 00:56:519 (2,3) - stack for consistency
  2. 01:18:827 (1,2) - the flow is kinda meh .. move 2 to left

Hard

  1. 00:12:981 (3,4,1,2,3) - they look kinda weird tbh .. maybe change pattern here
  2. 00:17:904 (3,1) - stack like 00:17:289 (1,3) -
  3. 00:57:289 (3,1) - stack
  4. 01:55:442 (4) - replace with 2 circles?

Aia's Insane

  1. 01:01:519 (6,1) - not stacked properly
    cool diff

Unfading Nightmares

  1. 00:18:519 - The cymbal sound here needs more emphasizing while ur spacing between 00:18:365 (4,1) - is lower than 00:17:904 (3,4) -
  2. 00:32:673 (1,1,1,1) - u really dont need these NCs
  3. 01:17:289 (6,7,1) - same as 00:18:519 -
  4. 01:27:442 (1,2,3) - people might misread it as a skystar triple :^)
  5. 01:32:365 (1,2,3) - linear-ish flows like this are pain to play ;-;
  6. 01:45:058 - theres clearly a sound there how about replacing 01:44:981 (5) - with a 1/4 slider?
  7. 01:51:904 (4,1) - spacing is overkill
  8. 01:56:827 (4,1) - space these more plox


ok thats it i guess.. cute map

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/489013 my map so u wont have to go back to ur q

gl gl
Topic Starter
Yales

sahuang wrote:

consider making Hard around 3.7-3.8*, current gap is too big
tbh this Hard is just sth like Advanced cuz mostly it's following ds and very easy compared to insane where there are so many 1/4s and quite a few jumps.
I just think you need another difficulty here,like light insane or hyper.

edit: 11 spinners in hard..thats a pretty weird way of expressing this song lmao
I'll boost hard diff by changing those spinners just for it then.. Although, weird or not, I'm pretty sure it fits. As it's mapped on beats, they're here for something not just to fill in like 75% of spinners users.
Though "1 set, 2 in between diffs" would be a cool remake. But I wouldn't do both.
Thanks for the advice.

Syph wrote:

hi m4m, this song is awesome
you're probably gonna need a diff between hard and insane cuz holy that's a big gap ^

[Normal]

SPINNERSSSSS AAAAAAAAA
also a good diff lo I'll keep those spinners in normal, they might be quite a lot, they do fit. Thanks though x)

[Polka's Advanced]

seems good

[Hard]

01:11:750 (2) - sounds pretty weird, i'd do a 1/1 slider at 01:11:904 - to follow the same sound as 01:11:442 (1) - I get your point but I feel that my way is more natural to play and still makes sense as the reverse represents that sound.
01:13:904 - place a note here and then spinner pls I guess I'll rework those spinners later but I think it's fine for this one though, starting a spinner there give its sense as it represents something in the music and it isn't map on some fade away kind of sound.
01:21:596 (2) - same as earlier ^
01:26:519 - why would u ignore those awesome sounds ;w; you could do like sliders with increasing sv like this or smth https://sy.phic.al/i/jyymblg.jpg Oh, really like your idea, I'll take that. I just hope the pattern isn't too hard for a normal diff... we'll see.
02:05:596 (1) - same as earlier! Probablt gonna rework those though, but the idea is the same that previously. I don't like making spinners just to "fill in" the spinner has its importance and should be snapped on a proper beat in my opinion.
02:14:212 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - i love pp /s x)

[Aia's Insane]

00:41:904 (1,2) - i expected 1 to be an extended slider lol these are so close to eachother, maybe consider giving it a bit more distance
01:01:519 (6,1) - is this intentionally stacked like this because it looks weird
01:59:442 (1,2,3) - this felt a bit weird to play, smth like this might work better https://sy.phic.al/i/cyzuewr.jpg


[Unfading Nightmares]

00:23:135 (1) - consider silencing sliderend, sounds a bit better to me Reduced to 20%
01:17:442 (7,1) - imo this needs a lot more distance, the sound on 1 is really strong, you could try ctrlg 1 maybe Fixed in my way
01:56:981 (1) - more distance pls ctrl g would work I feel that a higher spacing there would break the flow.
01:58:212 (1,2) - wayyyy too much distance It plays by itself.
02:16:673 (1) - centering this inbetween 02:16:212 (1,1,1) - would look a bit better tbh, 326|255 should be good Fixed, nice catch.

this diff is so good hOLY Glad you like it!

good luck~
Thanks!

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

m4m from ur q

General

  1. Disable widescreen support and countdown they are both unnecessary Fixed on all diff. I never think about those things lol

Normal

  1. 00:02:519 - make this clickable? remove repeat of slider and add circle instead I feel the reverse represents that sound pretty well though.
  2. 00:45:596 (2,2) - small overlaps like this look aagly :< .... overlap them more and just remove overlap Well, I like how it looks though xD
  3. 00:52:981 (1,2) - 00:54:212 (3,4) - since its the easiest diff of the set , flows like this could be a bit hard to read for newbies Can't see what's wrong (2) is right under (1) how could you be confused?
  4. 01:21:289 (5,2) - not parallel .-. fixed a bit the blanket.
    holy.. soo many spinners

Polka's Advanced

  1. 00:56:519 (2,3) - stack for consistency The rhythm is the same, the pattern doesn't need to be the same
  2. 01:18:827 (1,2) - the flow is kinda meh .. move 2 to left Flow seems good to me


I'll let Polka decide whether he wants to change something or not anyway.

Hard

  1. 00:12:981 (3,4,1,2,3) - they look kinda weird tbh .. maybe change pattern here ? no, it's fine.
  2. 00:17:904 (3,1) - stack like 00:17:289 (1,3) - I feel it would make it harder to read and since it's not a really big deal I'll let it this way.
  3. 00:57:289 (3,1) - stack Fixed!
  4. 01:55:442 (4) - replace with 2 circles? I get your point, but I like how it flows right now.

Aia's Insane

  1. 01:01:519 (6,1) - not stacked properly
    cool diff

Unfading Nightmares

  1. 00:18:519 - The cymbal sound here needs more emphasizing while ur spacing between 00:18:365 (4,1) - is lower than 00:17:904 (3,4) - Fixed
  2. 00:32:673 (1,1,1,1) - u really dont need these NCs I do. To show the speed up via the NCs too.
  3. 01:17:289 (6,7,1) - same as 00:18:519 - Fixed
  4. 01:27:442 (1,2,3) - people might misread it as a skystar triple :^) Went fine in testplays.
  5. 01:32:365 (1,2,3) - linear-ish flows like this are pain to play ;-; I feel it plays by itself though... To me at least xD
  6. 01:45:058 - theres clearly a sound there how about replacing 01:44:981 (5) - with a 1/4 slider? Souds better
  7. 01:51:904 (4,1) - spacing is overkill It's the most intense part of the song, and it's not the hardest pattern tbh
  8. 01:56:827 (4,1) - space these more plox I feel it would break the flow


ok thats it i guess.. cute map

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/489013 my map so u wont have to go back to ur q

gl gl

Thanks!

I'll get to your maps probably tonight or tomorrow night!
polka

DeRandom Otaku wrote:

Polka's Advanced

  1. 00:56:519 (2,3) - stack for consistency :arrow:I feel the song is slightly starting to pick up, thus that should emphasized with an increased gap between the notes.
  2. 01:18:827 (1,2) - the flow is kinda meh .. move 2 to left :arrow:Can't do that without shattering DS sorry


gl gl
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