1. ok!

1. 00:14:700 (1) - remove the new combo from here
2. 00:33:300 (1) - add a whistle to the head for taking the guitar sound
3. 00:38:100 (1) - ^ Same
4. 00:38:100 (1,2,3) - I prefer to use this pattern for flow like this
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 01:40:500 (3) - add a finish to the head?
6. 02:46:500 (1) - remove the new combo like your part 01:27:300 (5) -
7. 04:24:750 (5) - I feel Ddum-Sampleset doesn't fit this part, pls change to normal sound.
8. 04:44:550 (1) - remove the new combo from here
9. 05:05:700 (1) - try to use soft-sound on the tail or turn down the volume around 30%. You should be able to apply my suggestion for the rest of the other part.05:10:500 (1,2) - ... etc
10. 05:54:900 - add a note here like your part 02:06:900 (1) - ?
11. 06:21:300 - How about removing kiai time from here ? Because it's clam part.
12. 06:55:966 (1) - add a finish to the head?

alacat wrote:

Hello ~ Hello! o/

[General]

1. ok!

[Freedom]

1. 00:14:700 (1) - remove the new combo from here Done
2. 00:33:300 (1) - add a whistle to the head for taking the guitar sound Done
3. 00:38:100 (1) - ^ Same Done
4. 00:38:100 (1,2,3) - I prefer to use this pattern for flow like this Done
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 01:40:500 (3) - add a finish to the head? Done
6. 02:46:500 (1) - remove the new combo like your part 01:27:300 (5) - Done
7. 04:24:750 (5) - I feel Ddum-Sampleset doesn't fit this part, pls change to normal sound. I added soft sound
8. 04:44:550 (1) - remove the new combo from here Done
9. 05:05:700 (1) - try to use soft-sound on the tail or turn down the volume around 30%. You should be able to apply my suggestion for the rest of the other part.05:10:500 (1,2) - ... etc I don`t know about this... :c
10. 05:54:900 - add a note here like your part 02:06:900 (1) - ? I want to keep that pause here :p
11. 06:21:300 - How about removing kiai time from here ? Because it's clam part. Done
12. 06:55:966 (1) - add a finish to the head? Done

Good luck ! Thank you!

1. 00:06:900 (1) - lower node move on x84 y72
2. 00:23:700 (1) - I do not like in what place it is located, try adding it is not under the slider
3. 00:27:900 (3,1) - maybe some like this? http://puu.sh/nBCaV/4990f1ee3c.jpg
4. 00:33:300 (1) - red node x88 y216, next node x152 y200
5. 00:35:700 (1) - not really
6. 00:38:100 (1) - red x240 y36, next node x308 y8
7. 00:42:900 (1) - stack end this slider with the beginning of this 00:42:300 (3) - slider
8. 00:46:950 (4,5,6,7,8) - not really
9. 01:03:000 (3) - move on x156 y240
10. 01:24:900 (3) - http://puu.sh/nBCBB/7a779dddc2.jpg why is there?
11. 01:52:500 (1) - the end of the slide is terrible
12. 02:19:200 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - make this square! http://puu.sh/nBCL6/7adebbde41.jpg
13. 02:46:500 (5,6,7) - not really
14. 03:16:500 (1) - not really
15. 03:34:950 (7) - move the end of a red tick
16. 04:22:350 (5) - change it!
17. 04:22:950 (7) - move the end of a red tick
18. 04:41:100 (4) - red node x416 y204
19. 05:00:900 (1,1) - i think there must be a stream
20. 05:14:700 (3,4) - stack
21. 05:23:100 (1) - change
22. 05:27:300 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/nBDIN/fcc53a6757.jpg
23. 06:28:466 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDNO/21c6ecc4f5.jpg
24. 06:22:300 (3) - http://puu.sh/nBDQc/39d1136152.jpg
25. 06:23:633 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDRH/a4bfeedfb1.jpg
26. 06:25:966 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDUo/9ccaa9fa17.jpg
27. 06:48:466 (2) - http://puu.sh/nBDZx/3a5b3d7620.jpg

Chiyuyu wrote:

hi from #modreq Oh my! Hi! Is this even real? :O

[Freedom]

1. 00:06:900 (1) - lower node move on x84 y72 Yes
2. 00:23:700 (1) - I do not like in what place it is located, try adding it is not under the slider It`s fine for me.
3. 00:27:900 (3,1) - maybe some like this? http://puu.sh/nBCaV/4990f1ee3c.jpg Yes
4. 00:33:300 (1) - red node x88 y216, next node x152 y200 Yes
5. 00:35:700 (1) - not really Yes
6. 00:38:100 (1) - red x240 y36, next node x308 y8 Yes
7. 00:42:900 (1) - stack end this slider with the beginning of this 00:42:300 (3) - slider It`s fine for me.
8. 00:46:950 (4,5,6,7,8) - not really huh?
9. 01:03:000 (3) - move on x156 y240 I changed something different
10. 01:24:900 (3) - http://puu.sh/nBCBB/7a779dddc2.jpg why is there? why not?
11. 01:52:500 (1) - the end of the slide is terrible It`s nice :c
12. 02:19:200 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - make this square! http://puu.sh/nBCL6/7adebbde41.jpg I like it that way :p
13. 02:46:500 (5,6,7) - not really What do you even mean? I see no problems here ._.
14. 03:16:500 (1) - not really ^
15. 03:34:950 (7) - move the end of a red tick Why would i do that?
16. 04:22:350 (5) - change it! Ok :c
17. 04:22:950 (7) - move the end of a red tick Why would i do that?
18. 04:41:100 (4) - red node x416 y204 I like it that way.
19. 05:00:900 (1,1) - i think there must be a stream May be, may not.
20. 05:14:700 (3,4) - stack no no no.
21. 05:23:100 (1) - change What is wrong with it?
22. 05:27:300 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/nBDIN/fcc53a6757.jpg Yes
23. 06:28:466 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDNO/21c6ecc4f5.jpg Yes
24. 06:22:300 (3) - http://puu.sh/nBDQc/39d1136152.jpg Yes
25. 06:23:633 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDRH/a4bfeedfb1.jpg No
26. 06:25:966 (6) - http://puu.sh/nBDUo/9ccaa9fa17.jpg No
27. 06:48:466 (2) - http://puu.sh/nBDZx/3a5b3d7620.jpg Yes

good luck THANK YOU!

стоп, зачем я писала на английском? извините, не заметила сразу, лол оуу.. бывает :3

1. 00:35:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Try doing something with this stream, like a more noticeable reduction in spacing or something? Because the guitar is lost here, it's just drums so it will feel weaker in the music.
2. 00:39:020 (4,1) - I would put a jump here instead because for me, it's better to emphasize the high pitched guitar sound on 1 than emphasize the held note on 4. You can hear it end on00:39:170 - too. Extended sliders don't really give emphasis onto the note the end on.
3. 00:42:920 (1) - Flip it the other way? Having it curved downwards rather than upwards would fit the visual flow you have here a bit better.
4. 00:48:170 (3) - Here too, the kink here doesn't really add anything. Rather imo, it detracts from an otherwise smooth flow, and you aren't using the kink for any obvious design element so it just seems really unnecessary for me.
5. 00:48:620 (1,2,3,4,5) - These sliders are noticeably off center. I think you wanted the red point to be in the middle
6. 00:56:570 (3,4) - Ctrl+G this rhythm? It would follow the vocals a bit better. The instruments support both interpretations so when this happens you should consider following vocals because the vocals work better with this rhythm cuz it draws emphasis onto 00:56:570 -. Like 00:57:770 (2,3) -
7. 01:00:620 (4,1) - Yea i really gotta comment on your visual flow. This just doesn't flow well. I don't think it's that strong of a note that deserves both a jump + flowbreak. The flowbreak is also quite awkward because the flow changes from 4>1 and again as you play 1 (even though you could technically play it just like a linear slider).
8. 01:06:470 (4,5) - Ctrl+G Rhythm
9. 01:16:370 (9,1) - No jump here for emphasis?
10. 01:20:420 (4,5) - Ctrl+G'ing here plays remarkable well.
11. 01:47:420 (8,1) - You could make this spacing a bit larger. What you did with 01:43:820 (5,1) - was good imo. It's still very easy to land but its still a noticeable jump.
12. 01:57:020 (8,1) - ^ Here too.
13. 02:02:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Nice triangles, but theyre quite small. Imo you could increase their spacing more.
14. 02:23:045 (8,1) - I don't really like this arrangement. You should use the same spacing. Usually players will be anticipating a stream jump/flowbreak on white ticks anyways. but they don't really anticipate anti-jumps. 02:36:920 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - Do something like this and you're good to go, that streams really nice.
15. 02:59:120 (3) -
    How to set it up, you're almost there

    
16. 03:03:020 (6,1) - Extended sliders etc... yea you can space them out a lot more.
17. 03:39:920 (1) - Move it to 437||7 for the memes.
18. 04:22:970 (7) - I would reduce it to 1/1 and put a jump from 7>8
19. 04:48:920 (1,3) - Just from a design perspective, this doesn't look really nice xP. I would to some blanketting thing to make them work with each other.
20. 05:00:920 (1,1,2,1,2,3) - This is really severely undermapped considering the instruments haven't subsided yet.
21. 05:10:220 (2,3) - I would just use circles. really long sliders followed by kicksliders just play really poorly imo. And the tail overlap with 1 and 2 doesn't look nice imo.
22. 05:15:020 (4) - This position just looks really cramped. I would seirously ditch the 3/4 slider here in favor of a less constricting pattern.
23. 05:27:320 (1,2,3) - You could space these out even more imo. You'd be surprised how many people will misread these as 1/2 jumps xD.
    
    I placed 2 at 173||69

    
24. 05:33:320 (1) - Honestly though, I would ditch these really long sliders and map denser rhythm in general. You ignore so many drum beats when you do this
25. 06:02:120 (1) - Redo this slider pls xd it's from 2011.
26. 06:25:986 (6) - Snap the end to blue tick?
27. 06:25:820 (5) - And yea you could space this out more. Compare it to 06:26:653 (1,2) -
28. 06:40:320 (2,3,4,5) - These are 1/8. I hear 5 drum hits very clearly.
29. 06:41:320 (1,2,3,4) - Same here.

This is the most common

Less common

1. 00:39:770 (1) - I think this note should be a triple here starting at 00:39:620
2. 00:52:220 (2,1) - Not sure if I like this overlap
3. 00:58:520 (1,2) - Place a note between these two
4. 01:15:920 (7,8) - ^
5. 01:16:370 (9,1) - ^ This and the previous are similar to 01:20:720 (1,2,3,4,5,6) . If you want want variance, you have it since 01:15:920 (7) - starts on a slider end and 01:16:520 (1) - ends on a slider start.
6. 01:42:620 (1,2,3,4,1) - Make this half of the stream circle more circular
7. 02:02:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - I don't really like the way these triangles are implemented. Maybe considering increasing the triangle size for each consecutive one while keeping all the jumps at acute angles? They don't even have to be triangles. I just feel this part should be more epic and these triangles you have now don't do it justice.
8. 01:53:720 (1,2,3) - Maybe try a pattern like this. Or replace the 2 with a 1/4 slider.
9. 02:06:920 (1) - Make it a low SV slider
10. 02:11:720 (1) - ^
11. 02:16:520 (1,2) - Note in between these two
12. 02:18:020 (7,1,2,3) - Swap the places of the triple and this slider
13. 02:18:770 (6,1) - Note in between
14. 02:20:870 (4,5) - ^
15. 02:21:320 (6,7) - ^
16. 02:26:870 (5,6) - ^
17. 02:27:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make this one stream
18. 02:51:720 (4,1) - There's an empty void between these notes (just the 02:52:220 (5) - isn't enough). You can clearly hear the drumbeats on the red ticks.
19. 03:11:120 (7,1) - 7's slider end is too close to 1's slider start
20. 03:12:920 (1,2,3) - see 01:53:720 (1,2,3)
21. 03:34:370 (5,7) - It bothers me that these don't blanket each other
22. 03:34:970 (7,8,1) - The 1 slider is too close to the 7 and 8
23. 04:54:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Since the guitar is what stands out the most in this giant stream, consider making this part a slider.
24. 05:12:920 (1,1,2,1) - Favorite part in the whole map.
25. 05:20:120 (1,2) - Consider changing to something like this.
26. 05:21:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream isn't on a 1/4 snap. I'm not the best at timing so please consult a BN or QAT for this. I think it's 1/6 snap or possibly a different timing all together.
27. 05:29:045 (8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't even know anymore. Just glad I'm not mapping this song. (The timing I mean). Maybe I'm overthinking. I hate streams.
28. 05:33:320 (1,1,2,1) - Cool
29. 05:54:920 - I think you should put something here
30. 06:03:320 (1,2,3) - see 01:53:720 (1,2,3) note
31. 06:08:420 (4,5) - Note in between these two
32. 06:09:320 (1,2) - ^
33. 06:10:520 (1,2) - ^
34. 06:11:720 (1,2) - ^
35. 06:12:920 (1,2) - ^
36. 06:16:520 (1,2) - ^
37. 06:44:820 (3,3) - These aren't overlapping exactly
38. 07:10:653 (4,1) - ^
39. 07:03:986 (1) - I wanted to click to the violin in the background soooo bad

Your Reminder

Manic by cYsmix

-M4x wrote:

Hey as requested:

1. 00:02:632 - I think the spinner should start on the white tick. I can't hear anything at the red tick, where you have the spinnerstart atm o: no no no, the sound starts there
2. 00:19:820 (2,3) - since these two notes are very loud in the song, I recommend to space them instead of stacking. This would be my suggestion: 00:18:920 (1,2,3) - http://puu.sh/olvUY/47e0e9eb9e.jpg | 00:20:720 (1,2) - http://puu.sh/olvW7/4c05261213.jpg 00:20:720 (1) - is stacked with 00:22:220 (3) - here I did something else, thanks :3
3. 00:23:420 (5,1) - Same to these two, they are pretty close to eachother! I've a suggestion for this too: 00:23:420 (5,1,2,3,4) - I changed that too!http://puu.sh/olwck/879f99e22f.jpg | http://puu.sh/olwe5/0a2184a20c.jpg | http://puu.sh/olwmP/14cf16caa2.jpg | http://puu.sh/olwnK/69e6beb57e.jpg
4. 00:28:520 (1,2,3,4,5) - When listen to the music you'll notice that the rhythm in the song is not the same as the rhythm you mapped :3 I mean you follow the guitar right? so there is no need for a triple^^ If you somehow meant to map the drum this would be the correct rhythm: http://puu.sh/olwDp/b1f0e716e3.jpg (I moved the NC to the downbeat, where you should move it too) I guess, it`s fine ._.
5. 00:33:320 (1) - What about increasing the sv here? The sound is very loud so it would fit well I guess! (Only for this slider ofc) Same here 00:38:120 (1) - I don`t really like the SV changes, sorry
6. 00:50:120 (1,2,3,5,6,7) - This is very confusing! Suddenly you start mapping 1/4 on the same sounds you only mapped 1/2 before. I would take the triples and just delete 00:50:195 (2,6) - these notes Seems pretty fine to me :p
7. 01:13:670 (3,4,1) - This curve could look better http://puu.sh/olx1j/3f0d2f3285.jpg Yes.
8. 01:09:020 (8) - Poor slider... Be a good guy and give this lonely note a Hitclap pls Thanks :3
9. 01:27:320 (5,6,7) - This looks kinda ugly tbh ^^ My suggestion: http://puu.sh/olxfp/c5025d1faf.jpg (I NC'ed 01:27:320 (5) - ) I changed that.
10. 01:42:170 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1) - Make this a nice curve pls It would look way better! I tried, but actually seems fine xD
11. 01:48:920 (1) - Cool slider! Thanks ^-^
12. 01:53:120 (4,5) - Ayy what happened here? Classic case of copy-pasting a slider with Hitclap on it Pls make the hitclaps consistant (every second white tick) Good catch, thanks :3
13. 02:18:920 (1,2) - This overlap looks weird compared to the others! 02:20:120 (1,2) - Example^^ I changed that one too.
14. 02:29:420 (5,1) - Same, but this looks cool in some way Anyways, I would change it tho! Like this: http://puu.sh/olxPl/2a4df415d4.jpg? I just added spacing.
15. 02:35:720 (1,2,3,4,5) - This would play better imo: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4951198 Oh, actually yes
16. 02:46:520 (5,6,7) - I meantioned this earlier! Think of something less squeezed pls like my example earlier Yes!
17. 02:59:120 (3,1) - Improve the blanket pls! I love wave sliders, so this makes me kinda sad Yes!
18. 03:30:920 (1) - In this part I don't think the hitclaps are necessary Why?
19. 04:32:420 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I don't think these jumps fit this section! Since the song stays quiet, why don't just stick with the slider rhythm you used before? I think it`s fine ._.
20. 05:00:920 (1,1,2,1,2,3) - This is very confusing and difficult to read! This rhyhtm for example would be much easier to read:http://puu.sh/olywk/b459cce67a.jpg Yes, looks fine now :3
21. 05:03:845 (4,1) - Idk if this spacing was on purpose but in case it was, I suggest to make it more even! (for consistancy) I mean you never did something like that before :3 Oh rip, didn`t noticed that one. Thanks!
22. 05:33:245 (4,1) - Same here Nope, this one for emphasing
23. 06:31:486 (1) - I recommend to remove NC here! It would increase the readability Seems fine with that NC for now
24. In the following I'll list up some notes which require more emphasis in the last part (That means, you should increase the spacing and/or sharpen the angle between the notes/create a unnatural movement):
    06:45:320 (1) - 06:50:653 (1) - 06:55:986 (1) - 07:01:320 (1) - 07:03:986 (1) - 07:06:653 (1) - 07:09:320 (1) -I want to keep it like it is now :d

Well I think that should be enough^^

Once you applied all these things and called in some more mods you can ask me for a recheck

Good luck with the map! Dragonforce <3 THANK YOU!

The Fetish wrote:

Stupidly late. But coming in with my NM for you fam.

Most of this will be personal opinions so you're free to ignore them. Actual issues I believe need changing Ill go into more detail about.

00:07:820 (2) - Circles would be better, 00:10:220 (2,3) - Matches up well with these. Plus they're clearly individual notes so yeah. Yes.
00:18:320 (3) - Same here. Just go through and check the intro if you want to apply some. No need for me to point out every single one. I`ll keep this one.

00:23:720 (1) - Might be kewl if you rotate this 90 so it points back up to the 5. You'd need to adjust the next 2 circles but its no issue. I want it to be like this ;p

00:31:820 (1) - The way you move up from the 4 doesnt lead into the slider very well. A simple Ctrl+J and slight adjustment is an easy fix but theres some other stuff you can do if you feel the need. This one seems fine to me -.-

00:38:120 (1) - You've got a nice blanket shape here thats going to waste, try moving things around to slot 00:38:720 (3) - In there nicely. Blanket the blanket, i won`t use mister Blanket this time ;d

00:43:370 (2) - I think this really needs to be 2 circle, it feels weird to play for me. Might be due to you having the previous slider end on a clear note. Why? :C I`ll keep it.

00:48:920 (2,3,4,5) - All sliders here is kinda, inconsistent I should say? Have it be some mild jump patterns like you did the combo before here: 00:46:520 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
Or if you still want a lot of sliders 00:50:870 (8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This combo does it well with the circle on the 4 breaking them up. Okay

00:55:220 (2) - I might be deaf but I dont hear anything to warrant this ending on a blue tick rather than the red. what?

00:58:070 (3,1) - Nazi but not overlapping perfectly. You can also move them over to the right a bit so you can blanket these 2 00:58:220 (4,2) - Yes

01:00:170 (2) - Not perfectly in-line with the triple. Fixed

01:06:095 (2,3) - Lift these up a tad. The whole combo is looking a little cramped. Yes

01:10:220 (5) - Same as before, the 4 leads into the slider a little oddly. Seems fine to me ;p

01:13:520 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Curve is a little ugly, needs optimizing and smoothing out. I tried my best

01:18:095 (6,1) - Leading into the turn a little too sharply. I tried again xd

01:30:620 (4) - Try stacking this under the tail of 01:30:920 (1) - Swag points for both a stack and blanket. Done

01:34:520 (5,6) - 6 isnt perfectly centred. Fixed.

01:43:370 (2,3,4,5) - A little cramped. Try spacing it out a bit as Ive shown here. http://puu.sh/oo3Rt/de5e761634.jpg Done.

01:53:420 (5) - Move this up a tiny bit. No, because it`s stacked with 01:51:770 (6) - this

03:30:920 (1) - Totally my opinion. But the SV seems too high for this calmer section. Seems fine to me.

04:25:370 (7,2) - These could do with a bit of tidying up. Theres a few other ways to make S sliders check those out if you can. Or just PM me ingame sometime. This applies for any other S sliders I didnt mention as well. I fixed it by myself

05:03:620 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Consider just making a perfect circle slider and stream converting it for this so you have a nice even shape. That`s what i did.

05:12:920 (1) - I know you're following the guitar here. But consider mapping the drum fill instead. I asked a few opinions about it and i`ll keep it.

05:30:920 (1) - This is very risky. Im not sure if you can get away with this with OD8.5 But if a player is slightly off-time on this stream they may get note locked due to the stack. You have to ask a BN specifically about this. I guess, that would work fine.

05:34:220 (1) - 99% sure these are just 2 standard notes. No need for them to be sliders. Change to 2 circles. 05:37:820 (1) - Same here. Feel free to have them as large jumps though. I think thats very justifiable with how strong they are. 05:44:870 (1,2,3) - Again here. I`ll keep them.
HOWEVER 05:45:320 (1,2,1,2) - These notes you can actually do that on if you wish to.

05:51:920 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Smooth this out. uhm, i tried?

06:03:920 (3,1) - These arent stacked perfectly. Fixed

One final point. A lot of your notes are a little cramped, Ive given a few combo examples but Ill show you another with a few images so you can go and tidy them all up. http://puu.sh/oo4DI/bd5ad7fcb0.jpg http://puu.sh/oo4Ip/acdbf4bb84.jpg

Its basically if you see Approch circles overlapping and stuff. You get the idea. Probably, yeah.

Anyways, this maps come a long way from my first testplay. GJ

Good luck as well. Have a star. Thank you :33

1. 00:20:720 (1) - this NC is inconsistent with 00:15:620 (4) and 00:08:720 (4) and blablabla. make them consistent.
2. 00:34:820 (1) and 00:35:420 (1) - unnecessary NC.
3. 00:39:770 (1) - also NC here in unnecessary.
4. 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - consistent spacing is ok too but I recommend to make spacing like this to emphasis strong beat.
5. 03:31:445 (3,5,7,1,3,5,7,3,5,7,1,2,4) - add finish on head.
6. 04:14:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same as 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2)
7. 04:19:370 (3,5,7) - add finish on head
8. 04:21:770 (3,5,7) - ^
9. 04:24:170 (3,5,7) - ^
10. 04:26:120 (1,2,2,1,2,1,3) - ^
11. 04:30:920 (1,2,4) - ^

P A N wrote:

1. 00:20:720 (1) - this NC is inconsistent with 00:15:620 (4) and 00:08:720 (4) and blablabla. make them consistent. Okay
2. 00:34:820 (1) and 00:35:420 (1) - unnecessary NC. I`ll keep it
3. 00:39:770 (1) - also NC here in unnecessary. Okay
4. 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - consistent spacing is ok too but I recommend to make spacing like this to emphasis strong beat. Yes! :3
5. 03:31:445 (3,5,7,1,3,5,7,3,5,7,1,2,4) - add finish on head. huh, why?
6. 04:14:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same as 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) Yes
7. 04:19:370 (3,5,7) - add finish on head I added whistles.
8. 04:21:770 (3,5,7) - ^ ^
9. 04:24:170 (3,5,7) - ^ ^
10. 04:26:120 (1,2,2,1,2,1,3) - ^ ^
11. 04:30:920 (1,2,4) - ^

good, better than the last time I saw. gl Thank you :1

P A N wrote:

1. 00:20:720 (1) - this NC is inconsistent with 00:15:620 (4) and 00:08:720 (4) and blablabla. make them consistent.
2. 00:34:820 (1) and 00:35:420 (1) - unnecessary NC.
3. 00:39:770 (1) - also NC here in unnecessary.
4. 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2) - consistent spacing is ok too but I recommend to make spacing like this to emphasis strong beat.
5. 03:31:445 (3,5,7,1,3,5,7,3,5,7,1,2,4) - add finish on head.
6. 04:14:120 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - same as 00:45:320 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2)
7. 04:19:370 (3,5,7) - add finish on head
8. 04:21:770 (3,5,7) - ^
9. 04:24:170 (3,5,7) - ^
10. 04:26:120 (1,2,2,1,2,1,3) - ^
11. 04:30:920 (1,2,4) - ^

good, better than the last time I saw. gl

Kalindraz wrote:

Dae you answer "Eae parça" < Brazilian compliance

okay let's go yay
[ Freedom ]

1. 00:14:120 (1) - I think it is better to rotate it so that the final go straight to 00:14:720 (2) - Welp yeah.
2. 00:35:720 (1) - that such a turn that slider in 3/4 and replace these notes ( 00:36:170 (2,3,4) - ) for 4 sliders 1/4 an example: http://puu.sh/otiFn.jpg, because I hear something more from this session. xd I didn`t something else here, thanks
3. the same thing here 00:42:920 (1) - , because the white tick starts a guitar part and is more emphatic, right? look http://puu.sh/otj72.jpg
4. 00:55:520 (3) - could you fix the direction? kinda little irregular. Yes
5. 01:00:170 (2,4) - overlap fix. Okay
6. 02:29:420 (5,1) - ^ Not this one
7. 03:50:720 (3,5) - fix blanket imo. Haha yeah
8. this session 04:09:320 - at 04:14:120 - you made some quadruplets 1/3, you could increase this distancing a little more, and leaving the curved, but it is up to you Done
9. 04:16:970 (3,4,5) - aaaaa, applies symmetric in that part, leaves with distance equaled please ; _; Nope, i follow spacing rhythm 1.6 / 2.0
10. 05:24:170 (1,2,3,4) - replace for more triangles patterns to follow the rythm. I`ll keep it :p
11. 05:39:620 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I believe it will get better if you increase the distance of each triplet "dramatically" Seems fine to me.
12. 05:41:720 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - the idea of leaving 1-2 was great, but the positions are so without aesthetic, you could improve it more. but it`s... nice... :c
13. 06:18:920 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - suggestion > http://puu.sh/otl5Y.jpg no 1/4 streams :c
14. 07:13:224 - 07:15:056 - missing a stronger beat fix. I`ll skip it :d

byee Thank you :3

Mazziv wrote:

hi xd hey
00:38:720 (3,2,1) - not stacked Oh, stacked now
00:48:920 (1) - nc here no, i want keep consistency between them.
01:35:420 (8) - ctrl+g this will ruin what i wanted to do xd
kds pls xddd as u wish, honey
Thanks for mod :1

ouranhshc wrote:

00:37:820 (5) - possibly orient this the same way 00:36:620 (1,3) - because this combo is based on a pattern. I feel that (5)'s placement should continue pattern I do, but in kinda other way :p

so something like this
00:49:820 (5) - same thing as above. Although, with this one it would kinda mess up what comes after it. I think it`s fine like this now.
01:11:420 (4,5,1) - ehh, patterns like these can be misleading in a way because it looks different from the actual rhythm. There are similar patterns throughout the map. So something like this Yes!

you'd have to change the slider path though.
02:27:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ehh, i feel like this should be 1/3 snapped. Currently it feels odd because it seems like you are following the drums but the triples don't feel quite right. the 1/3 snapped section would end here: 02:28:520 I don`t really know about these, i can`t here 1/3 and i followed vocals, in sliders part.
02:30:620 (4,5,1) - here is another example that is similar to above I`ll keep it, probably
02:52:220 (7) - feels a little too far away when compared to the other patterns in the previous parts of this slow section. so you could move it to X: 298 Y: 31 .Here is a before and after for an easier comparison. Yes!

Before

After

03:24:770 (5) - ehh, have you considered having the slider going in the opposite direction. All the sliders in this combo lead or take you in the direction of the next slider/circle of the combo. So if you were to reverse the direction of (5) so that it leads you to (1) of the next combo, i think that it would play better. Yes, changed
03:29:420 (4) - [nazi] one grid down on grid 4. [YOU DON"T HAVE TO CHANGE THIS ONE BUT I CHANGED HAHA!] It's just one of those things i notice while i'm playing but isn't that important.
04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - Ehh, I'm try to explain this well D:. So when comparing this combo with how the other combos are setup for this portion of the song 03:59:720 to 04:09:320 , I noticed this trend: Long combo, short combo, short combo. I was just curious because 04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - would have been the two short combos, and in the later combo setups, it returns to the long combo followed by two short combos. i.e. I have changed the thing xD

vs

Just remember that its up to you .

04:09:320 - 04:14:120 - could change some of the 1/3 to repeating sliders. This may help the player adjust to the snapping change. I want to keep circles
05:34:220 (1,2) - Not too keen about the placement of (2). Although its visible, 05:33:320 (1) - 's slider path still being visible on top of it doesn't help. I moved it a bit
06:23:653 (6) - ehh, tbh, i'd end this on the 1/4th blue tick. Kinda sounds odd in its current state. I think i know why you did this but, i don't hear the drum there. I`ll keep this too

Overall - Great and Fun map Thank you!
06:21:320 to the end of the map doesn't feel as structured/good as the rest of the map. I'm not sure if it has to do with the slow slider velocity, but thats just my thoughts on it. Remember that these are just suggestions and so don't feel forced to accept these suggestions

1. 00:31:670 (4,1) – kind of a weird flow here because of the shape of (1); the (1) feels awkward to play because the movement from (4) to (1) is like a diagonal movement and then the (1) has more horizontal movement and that ruins the diagonal movement and makes it feels weird. Maybe rotate by 60 degrees counter-clockwise from selection centre?
   
   SPOILER

   you might have to move 00:32:720 (3) – to stack with the slider end though
   
2. 00:47:120 (5) – did you forget a NC here?
3. 01:10:070 (4,5) – same as the first point about weird flow; you can figure this one out
4. 01:20:720 (1) – mmm this NC feels unnecessary to me because this part is very similar to 01:15:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – and you didn’t have NC there
5. 01:24:620 (2,3) – blanket could be better; curve the (3) a little more by moving the middle anchor point to the bottom right a bit
6. 01:36:320 (3,4) – blanket here could also be a bit nicer
7. 01:43:820 (5,1) - ^same; I’ll stop pointing these out but you might want to recheck some of your blankets just to make sure they’re all nice and proper, e.g. 03:31:370 (3,4) – what is this blanket
8. 02:28:220 (8) – forgot clap on slider head?
9. 04:10:520 (6) -, 04:11:720 (6) -, and 04:12:920 (6) – I think it’d make sense to start a NC on these notes because the start of the guitar riff has a slight emphasis to it because downbeat
10. 04:18:920 (1,3) – just aesthetics talking here, but I think making them either both with a soft curve or sharp bend would look nicer; do one, not both
11. 05:01:220 (1) – NC seems unnecessary here
12. 05:08:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – this rhythm feels a bit weird to play imo; why not try a pattern like this?
    
    SPOILER

    just an idea here; you don’t need to go with this exact pattern, but try to keep the rhythms something like this because the long sliders on blue ticks feel really awkward to play imo
    
13. 05:24:920 (4,1) – tbh I think NCs should be swapped here because downbeat is the start of a new phrase in the guitar solo
14. 05:26:570 (3) – no NC here like 05:24:170 (1) - ?
15. for the last chorus, why not try something like stopping kiai time at 06:11:645 – and then starting kiai time again at 06:11:720 - ? there’s a change in key signature (vocalist raises his voice and switches keys here) so I think it’d be neat
16. 06:23:653 (6) -, 06:23:653 (6) – tbh these feel a little weird to me as ending on the purple (1/6) ticks; I think it’d be more appropriate to end these on the blue (1/4) ticks instead
    
    SPOILER

    
17. 06:30:486 (1,2,1,1,2) – NC structure here is a little weird I think because the NCs aren’t really highlighting anything with emphasis; tbh I don’t really think the NCs here are necessary
18. 06:33:986 (6,7) – 1/6 here also feels really weird; I think it’d be more fitting to just combine these into a 1/2 slider instead of separating it like this

Doormat wrote:

hi hi from forum pm, sorry this is kind of late- aaaaa i love DragonForce guitar solos HI!
[Freedom]

1. 00:31:670 (4,1) – kind of a weird flow here because of the shape of (1); the (1) feels awkward to play because the movement from (4) to (1) is like a diagonal movement and then the (1) has more horizontal movement and that ruins the diagonal movement and makes it feels weird. Maybe rotate by 60 degrees counter-clockwise from selection centre? I have changed whole thing
   
   SPOILER

   you might have to move 00:32:720 (3) – to stack with the slider end though
   
2. 00:47:120 (5) – did you forget a NC here? Yes.
3. 01:10:070 (4,5) – same as the first point about weird flow; you can figure this one out I think this one is fine.
4. 01:20:720 (1) – mmm this NC feels unnecessary to me because this part is very similar to 01:15:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) – and you didn’t have NC there I`ll keep it.
5. 01:24:620 (2,3) – blanket could be better; curve the (3) a little more by moving the middle anchor point to the bottom right a bit Okay thanks
6. 01:36:320 (3,4) – blanket here could also be a bit nicer Yes
7. 01:43:820 (5,1) - ^same; I’ll stop pointing these out but you might want to recheck some of your blankets just to make sure they’re all nice and proper, e.g. 03:31:370 (3,4) – what is this blanket Haha yeah.
8. 02:28:220 (8) – forgot clap on slider head? Oops
9. 04:10:520 (6) -, 04:11:720 (6) -, and 04:12:920 (6) – I think it’d make sense to start a NC on these notes because the start of the guitar riff has a slight emphasis to it because downbeat I want keep it
10. 04:18:920 (1,3) – just aesthetics talking here, but I think making them either both with a soft curve or sharp bend would look nicer; do one, not both Okay
11. 05:01:220 (1) – NC seems unnecessary here Yes
12. 05:08:270 (1,2,3,4,5,6) – this rhythm feels a bit weird to play imo; why not try a pattern like this? Changed a bit different
    
    SPOILER

    just an idea here; you don’t need to go with this exact pattern, but try to keep the rhythms something like this because the long sliders on blue ticks feel really awkward to play imo
    
13. 05:24:920 (4,1) – tbh I think NCs should be swapped here because downbeat is the start of a new phrase in the guitar solo Not this one :p
14. 05:26:570 (3) – no NC here like 05:24:170 (1) - ? no :p
15. for the last chorus, why not try something like stopping kiai time at 06:11:645 – and then starting kiai time again at 06:11:720 - ? there’s a change in key signature (vocalist raises his voice and switches keys here) so I think it’d be neat Nice!
16. 06:23:653 (6) -, 06:23:653 (6) – tbh these feel a little weird to me as ending on the purple (1/6) ticks; I think it’d be more appropriate to end these on the blue (1/4) ticks instead I`ll keep them.
    
    SPOILER

    
17. 06:30:486 (1,2,1,1,2) – NC structure here is a little weird I think because the NCs aren’t really highlighting anything with emphasis; tbh I don’t really think the NCs here are necessary This NC stays with me xD
18. 06:33:986 (6,7) – 1/6 here also feels really weird; I think it’d be more fitting to just combine these into a 1/2 slider instead of separating it like this Changed that one

Hope this helps!

Monstrata wrote:

Recheck: Hello <3

soft-sliderslide.wav is unused. Please double check if you wanted to use it or not. If not, remove it.
normal-slidertick.wav has a rather long delay before the actual sound begins. Do you think you can find a better .wav file, or trim off the beginning of the .wav file to avoid the delay? Removed delay and added soft custom sounds.

03:48:920 (5,6) - Blankets Yes
04:03:320 (1,2,3,4) - Try an arrangement like this: larger spacing onto 1 for emphasis, and you get a movement that closely mirrors your next pattern

~

I really want to keep it :p
04:22:370 (5,7,8) - Can you try and avoid this kind of overlap? Alright
04:27:770 (2,3) - 2>3 should have a larger jump to emphasize the snare, while 3>4 shouldn't be as large in terms of spacing. Can you maybe rework this pattern to account for those notes? Yes
04:40:520 (1,2) - Try and avoid these kinds of placements because they just look kinda bad imo. try and position the circle to come after the slider like what you do with 04:41:120 (4,5) - . and 04:42:470 (4,5) - I kinda like these, can`t i keep it?
05:04:520 - This section with all these long sliders just feels really undermapped to me xP. Can you make the rhythm more diverse? You are missing a lot of instruments in the background by exclusively following the guitar. I really want to leave solo guitar for guitar xd
05:09:320 (1) - Ctrl+G this at least xP. So the flow follows the previous slider's direction. I have changed that stuff a bit
05:44:120 (1,1,2) - These rhythms feel really weird to me... the guitar is held, yet you put in a break. I think using sliders is more appropriate. I call it, epic pause XD

Try this

Okay that should be all

Use higher HP! 4 seems really, really low. What about 5,5 or even 6? We don't want free passes here

1. 02:00:620 (6,2) - Yup. Hiding slidertails is unrankable.
2. 02:06:920 (1) - 02:11:720 (1) - 02:13:520 (3) - No finish hitsound?
3. 03:04:895 (2,3) - If I remember correctly, you are overlapping every 1/4 pattern, especially when there's a circle between sliders. Then why? Same goes for 05:15:845 (2,3) - of course.
4. 03:33:320 (1) - Clap on tail sounds very weird here. Actually, clap on tails should be avoided, they have a different usage, and that's whenever you are using them for rhythm For example, following your hitsounding, 03:38:420 - 's tail should have a clap.
5. 04:48:020 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Would love to see this more separated, more polished, you know. Having everything so close seems... odd. What about http://puu.sh/oMY4Z/bd4167f5f6.jpg instead?
6. 06:37:986 - Making this clickable isn't an option, right? Dunno, I think it would be cool. Same for 06:48:653 - .
7. 06:39:986 (1) - Why is this snapped to 1/6 but 06:40:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - to 1/8? Wouldn't make actual sense to have everything on 1/8 rather?
8. 06:50:653 (1) - Unsnapped, move to 06:51:153 - . And also 06:51:208 (2) - to 06:51:236 - .

Yuii- wrote:

H-Hello Hello
Please, don't kill me. Why would i do that? :O I appreciate it, you are trying to help me make it even much better \o/ Thanks!

normal-slidertick.wav is inaudible on the right ear during gameplay. Changed that xd
Hey, Fort (just kidding, it's a joke, come on!!!!) Use higher HP! 4 seems really, really low. What about 5,5 or even 6? We don't want free passes here Do not touch my HP pls, it`s reserved for my only senpai. <3
P.S: I am qulte sure it`s not a problem, i do not want people hate my map because of 2 - 3 misses that have failed they passthrough. Most of DF maps used 3-5 HP, some of them 6, so why i can`t use 4 for now? Also i don`t think that we would have "free passes" cuz if someone can`t play these streams, he wound`t pass it even with HP0. That`s my point.

1. 02:00:620 (6,2) - Yup. Hiding slidertails is unrankable. It`s not really *hiding* you can clearly see it because of high AR and i don`t think it`s that huge problem at all. But if it`s really that, i can change it, not a big deal
2. 02:06:920 (1) - 02:11:720 (1) - 02:13:520 (3) - No finish hitsound? Added, ty.
3. 03:04:895 (2,3) - If I remember correctly, you are overlapping every 1/4 pattern, especially when there's a circle between sliders. Then why? Same goes for 05:15:845 (2,3) - of course. Kinda not, also it`s kiai. There was some slider-circle-slider 1/4 patterns with spacing and stacking. That fits enough imo.
4. 03:33:320 (1) - Clap on tail sounds very weird here. Actually, clap on tails should be avoided, they have a different usage, and that's whenever you are using them for rhythm For example, following your hitsounding, 03:38:420 - 's tail should have a clap. Thanks for note this, that`s a copypaste mistake!
5. 04:48:020 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Would love to see this more separated, more polished, you know. Having everything so close seems... odd. What about http://puu.sh/oMY4Z/bd4167f5f6.jpg instead? Yes, but i used something different to save spacing consintacy.
6. 06:37:986 - Making this clickable isn't an option, right? Dunno, I think it would be cool. Same for 06:48:653 - I made first one clickable and second one not, cuz i think random 1/12 stream would be too much lol.
7. 06:39:986 (1) - Why is this snapped to 1/6 but 06:40:320 (2,3,4,5,6) - to 1/8? Wouldn't make actual sense to have everything on 1/8 rather? Yes, kinda xd
8. 06:50:653 (1) - Unsnapped, move to 06:51:153 - . And also 06:51:208 (2) - to 06:51:236 - .They are snapped, to 1/6 but i snaped them to 1/8

Can I also suggest you to make the final a bit more flow-y by curving the sliders? All these straight movements are quite boring at some point!
In my opinion, you could include some other hitsounds on the map as well as working on them for a while. Things such as 03:01:520 (3) - are kinda... random let's say? Really like the usage of the normal hits, I think they sound awesome! It's just that you are missing soooo many important spots overall and/or adding hitsounds whenever they are not needed. As you wish, remaped whole section, hope it`s not that boring anymore xd

Everything in bold should be fixed and/or explained otherwise.

Stjpa wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall spacing used in this map. The streams are kinda of intense spacing-wise (at least near the end) but the jumps are so lame that I'd fall asleep after the second time of playing this map. Especially in the kiai it's really boring, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't feel right compared to the streams, that's it.

Also, you should really consider a higher drain than just 4. This map just has one little streamy part that doesn't even have really long streams so HP4 isn't near acceptable at all, if you ask me. If there were good deathstreams or a streampart of the length of 1:30 or smth I'd completely agree, but that's not the case.

Kathex wrote:

You probably forgot your level to consider the map asleep... kek
I think chu wants make it at least passable to more ppl, dont just for pro players...

I loved the map Chu (specialy with hr cause i dont need be a cookiezi to at least pass it)
Dont let this ppls discourage you

Stjpa wrote:

I kinda disagree with the overall spacing used in this map. The streams are kinda of intense spacing-wise (at least near the end) but the jumps are so lame that I'd fall asleep after the second time of playing this map. Especially in the kiai it's really boring, but that's just my opinion. Doesn't feel right compared to the streams, that's it.

Also, you should really consider a higher drain than just 4. This map just has one little streamy part that doesn't even have really long streams so HP4 isn't near acceptable at all, if you ask me. If there were good deathstreams or a streampart of the length of 1:30 or smth I'd completely agree, but that's not the case.

ImBuGs wrote:

Why is this in a no bubble status?

Sonnyc wrote:

Hi. I'm terribly sorry for the long delay. Hey, thanks. No wories xd

Several rhythm selections seem to be based on arbitrary feeling instead of the actual song. For example, there is an actual beat at 00:28:895 while the selected rhythm was at 00:29:195 (4). Another example would be at 01:56:120 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8), where 01:56:495 - 01:57:095 - got an actual beat in the music while 01:56:195 - 01:56:795 being selected instead. There are much more cases like these, and the rhythm needs improvement accordingly in a way to follow the music better. I am pretty sure it`s ok there.
01:27:320 (1,2,3) - 02:46:520 (1,2,3) - This kind of spacing usage isn't good in reading the rhythms properly. Giving more difference between 1/2 and 1/3 rhythm will be better. I changed it a bit.
02:09:320 (4) - NC will be better to distinct pattern. Yes, thanks
02:32:120 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - Nice approach. TY! :3
01:34:520 (5) - 02:53:720 (1) - Inconsistent combo. Fixed.
04:33:170 (6) - While (1,2,3,4,5) follows both the drums and the melody in the music, (6) has got no drum while containing only the melody. However your pattern selection represented no difference regarding that aspect, and it didn't seemed to fit the music nicely. Fixed.
04:51:320 (1,2) - If you are following the melody line, the snap should be 1/3. This rhythm is pretty wierd here, but 1/4 fits more here, i guess.
05:00:770 (7,8,1) - Imo keeping the distance would look better, but this is fine too. Yes, i wanna keep it like this.
05:05:720 (1,2,3,4,1) - 05:10:520 (1,2,3) - etc - These spacing usage for extended sliders felt too much.. The song wasn't that abnormal to demand such irregular patterns imo. I changed the whole section here.
05:15:020 - Consider using 1/3 to fit the instrument? Oh my, nice catch!
06:46:153 (3,4) - 06:59:820 (3,4) - I don't see much a reason behind this random jump. Alright, fixed :p

Patterns itself worked quite fine, considering a work from a new mapper. It definitely lacked professionality, but that's understandable. Just the rhythm selections had problems for me to push this mapset further.

Monstrata wrote:

06:47:978 (1) - I think this should end 1/8 earlier, on 06:48:312 - . I can actually hear a note on 06:48:312 - , but not the 1/8 after.
Fixed :3
Double-checked other snappings, just this one stood out.

Side wrote:

Bubble #3! .................................................................................................................................................................

Wishkey wrote:

oh nice man you revived this
might wanna check if the normal-slidertick.wav 8ms delay is okay to rank, would suck if it'd get dq'd by that
glgl!

CircleChu wrote:

I guess, you got the really old version, because i fixed it a while ago

Xexxar wrote:

I'll bubble this to be safe

Monstrata wrote:

#2

Warning to 3rd nominator: You have to wait 24 hours before qualifying due to the new changes to BN Rules. (Maybe it doesn't apply to QAT's though).

Monstrata wrote:

#2

Warning to 3rd nominator: You have to wait 24 hours before qualifying due to the new changes to BN Rules. (Maybe it doesn't apply to QAT's though).

Monstrata wrote:

#2

Warning to 3rd nominator: You have to wait 24 hours before qualifying due to the new changes to BN Rules. (Maybe it doesn't apply to QAT's though).