goodbye
Karmine wrote:
See you next time.
Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Karmine wrote:
See you next time.
Wimpy Cursed wrote:
Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Karmine wrote:
See you next time.
cleverBehrauder wrote:
Now you can't delete this thread anymore.
honestly, im not sure there is much of a productive distinction to make in this beyond what i would interpret/infer as "dont bother us, dont make a scene, dont do something extreme" (you may not necessarily be saying/intending this, but for some reason i absorbed it this way...)Patatitta wrote:
just quit silently, no need to announce it/delete your account
I guess I just don't agree on the gravity of quitting?, this is a online space, people come and go, if you just decide that you don't want to use x internet service, you don't need to apologize to anyone, you can just do it. I don't know, I feel announcing retirements is overkill, it doesn't help that a lot of people that announce they're quitting are back in a matter of months.Achromalia wrote:
honestly, im not sure there is much of a productive distinction to make in this beyond what i would interpret/infer as "dont bother us, dont make a scene, dont do something extreme" (you may not necessarily be saying/intending this, but for some reason i absorbed it this way...)Patatitta wrote:
just quit silently, no need to announce it/delete your account
and sometimes there isnt a practical need, but i do think of it as a chance to very literally say your goodbyes, as though they were to a circle of acquaintances or friends or family. coming from a sentimental angle, regardless of anyone's intent other than my own, i at the very least appreciate the thought of a thread like this in contexts like these from a person i might sympathize with
To use these records against him if needed?Patatitta wrote:
I feel having a record of your interactions is good,
mm, i suppose that lack of gravity is fair to perceive in a subjective sense, i think the contention i have with it is when it's concluded as something that necessarily exists without gravity to anyone, given that it's a statement that speaks on everyone's behalf even. it may culturally/conventionally be expected in a general population to not be particularly affected or give it any sense of importance, but that isn't something that can be fully representative of each person, so we take note of general culture and then listen more closely when someone does have something else to say in contrastPatatitta wrote:
I guess I just don't agree on the gravity of quitting?, this is a online space, people come and go, if you just decide that you don't want to use x internet service, you don't need to apologize to anyone, you can just do it. I don't know, I feel announcing retirements is overkill, it doesn't help that a lot of people that announce they're quitting are back in a matter of months.
i have my disagreements with permanent records of personal history, but you may be right that it comes at the cost of convenience to others. were it my own account, though, i would have more weight to my decision beyond "i just feel like leaving, therefore nobody should be able to trace me"... i don't want to be traced to a history of my own for another distant voyeur to record where my origins were when i'm trying to live elsewhere in peace, and that may indeed be selfish (and hypocritical) of me, butPatatitta wrote:
What I do actively dislike is deleting your account. I feel having a record of your interactions is good, I think in many ways it's selfish to say "oh I don't want to use this ever again so no one is ever going to be able to search me on it". Because sometimes you're just looking into something that involves browsing old threads and often deleted accounts makes thing a lot more misserable
the examples that you're giving fo the later half are very much excessive and not what is going on, this is not a case of abuse or whatever, there is no sensitive information here that is being purged to protect themselves, this is just deleting their account and giving a sense of finality that is excessive for osu, because deleting your account is the "cool" and trending thing to do for quitting. Also in everything else I feel you're heavily projectingAchromalia wrote:
mm, i suppose that lack of gravity is fair to perceive in a subjective sense, i think the contention i have with it is when it's concluded as something that necessarily exists without gravity to anyone, given that it's a statement that speaks on everyone's behalf even. it may culturally/conventionally be expected in a general population to not be particularly affected or give it any sense of importance, but that isn't something that can be fully representative of each person, so we take note of general culture and then listen more closely when someone does have something else to say in contrastPatatitta wrote:
I guess I just don't agree on the gravity of quitting?, this is a online space, people come and go, if you just decide that you don't want to use x internet service, you don't need to apologize to anyone, you can just do it. I don't know, I feel announcing retirements is overkill, it doesn't help that a lot of people that announce they're quitting are back in a matter of months.
because i agree in that people really can just leave as they wish and are not obligated to cater to anyone with a two-week notice, particularly when they do wish to leave without saying anything. but xch00f chose to say something anyway, so i choose to give it at least some amount of recognition from a personal lens, not so much as a declaration of how this thread must necessarily be important to everyone as it is a point of importance to me as an individuali have my disagreements with permanent records of personal history, but you may be right that it comes at the cost of convenience to others. were it my own account, though, i would have more weight to my decision beyond "i just feel like leaving, therefore nobody should be able to trace me"... i don't want to be traced to a history of my own for another distant voyeur to record where my origins were when i'm trying to live elsewhere in peace, and that may indeed be selfish (and hypocritical) of me, butPatatitta wrote:
What I do actively dislike is deleting your account. I feel having a record of your interactions is good, I think in many ways it's selfish to say "oh I don't want to use this ever again so no one is ever going to be able to search me on it". Because sometimes you're just looking into something that involves browsing old threads and often deleted accounts makes thing a lot more misserable
...i would personally be quite miserable to be held to my history here for others' convenience when this is my life and my history which i've hoped to escape for years on end. this may be hyperbolic of me, and many of the relationships i still have are contingent on people having known me and been able to reference my presence in the past. but this is for the present moment, when i've yet to make that kind of choice. i generally am evasive when asked about why i care about this, and i hope i'm within my right to be that way
i assume that i really could just leave, if i could resolve myself to do so. if i did, i would cherish and likely make use of the freedom to choose whether it'd be accompanied by a complete memory wipe of every footprint i left behind. i know friends and acquaintances who have for one reason or another suddenly disappeared, i can't speak for others' thoughts on people becoming untraceable to them, but i am personally comfortable with it if it makes others comfortable
...some people have other human beings to run from, sensitive information that they wish to hide that they were not wise enough to withhold in early age. a friend may have been getting stalked, or an acquaintance may have been endlessly harrassed for something they'd said in prior months or years that has already had its time in the sun with due consequences
the internet is already permanent enough, there are wayback machines and people privately screenshotting anything that interests them. i can't do anything about that, and maybe i shouldn't, but at the very least i could maybe make it easier for myself to let go and "get a grip" on some kind of present moment beyond that
...
but i would be sorry, if i do one day have a part in leaving a collective sense of cohesive history in disrepair. humanity lost many things with the destruction and obfuscation of information, so i imagine even communities like these could stand to learn from the personal histories of others. we've already taken as much as we have from the diaries and tales of the dead, it wouldn't be any different if i were duty-bound to leave my account and history for others to keep in mind
i disagree, but i cant stop anyone, i just want what peace i can gather for myself if it is afforded to me
mm, i dont doubt that i was at least being excessive, it also is projection (a mixture of that and true examples from myself and people i've met, but projection in that it could mistakenly imply having any direct bearing on xch00f's reasons specifically)Patatitta wrote:
the examples that you're giving fo the later half are very much excessive and not what is going on, this is not a case of abuse or whatever, there is no sensitive information here that is being purged to protect themselves, this is just deleting their account and giving a sense of finality that is excessive for osu, because deleting your account is the "cool" and trending thing to do for quitting. Also in everything else I feel you're heavily projectingAchromalia wrote:
i have my disagreements with permanent records of personal history, but you may be right that it comes at the cost of convenience to others. were it my own account, though, i would have more weight to my decision beyond "i just feel like leaving, therefore nobody should be able to trace me"... i don't want to be traced to a history of my own for another distant voyeur to record where my origins were when i'm trying to live elsewhere in peace, and that may indeed be selfish (and hypocritical) of me, butPatatitta wrote:
What I do actively dislike is deleting your account. I feel having a record of your interactions is good, I think in many ways it's selfish to say "oh I don't want to use this ever again so no one is ever going to be able to search me on it". Because sometimes you're just looking into something that involves browsing old threads and often deleted accounts makes thing a lot more misserable
...i would personally be quite miserable to be held to my history here for others' convenience when this is my life and my history which i've hoped to escape for years on end. this may be hyperbolic of me, and many of the relationships i still have are contingent on people having known me and been able to reference my presence in the past. but this is for the present moment, when i've yet to make that kind of choice. i generally am evasive when asked about why i care about this, and i hope i'm within my right to be that way
i assume that i really could just leave, if i could resolve myself to do so. if i did, i would cherish and likely make use of the freedom to choose whether it'd be accompanied by a complete memory wipe of every footprint i left behind. i know friends and acquaintances who have for one reason or another suddenly disappeared, i can't speak for others' thoughts on people becoming untraceable to them, but i am personally comfortable with it if it makes others comfortable
...some people have other human beings to run from, sensitive information that they wish to hide that they were not wise enough to withhold in early age. a friend may have been getting stalked, or an acquaintance may have been endlessly harrassed for something they'd said in prior months or years that has already had its time in the sun with due consequences
the internet is already permanent enough, there are wayback machines and people privately screenshotting anything that interests them. i can't do anything about that, and maybe i shouldn't, but at the very least i could maybe make it easier for myself to let go and "get a grip" on some kind of present moment beyond that
...
but i would be sorry, if i do one day have a part in leaving a collective sense of cohesive history in disrepair. humanity lost many things with the destruction and obfuscation of information, so i imagine even communities like these could stand to learn from the personal histories of others. we've already taken as much as we have from the diaries and tales of the dead, it wouldn't be any different if i were duty-bound to leave my account and history for others to keep in mind
i disagree, but i cant stop anyone, i just want what peace i can gather for myself if it is afforded to me
It's been like half of your life how can you say that? xDAshton wrote:
Osu is just a flash in the pan of your life.
oh,, wait im so blind how did i say this and not see the thread title ;v; i hope youll be around somewhere... but if you must go, i sort of understand and can only wish you peaceAchromalia wrote:
i suppose i've made a fool of myself in either case, [...] a break from the forum for a month or so [...] to "detox" from using off-topic.
[...] but then again, thisisn't really a matter of account deletionso it'd moreso be a case of [...] people saying their goodbyes beforeeventually returning anyway
So who did you murder?xch00F wrote:
dont bother sending me songs i have an album already in mind to play for when the cops find me
don't do it brouxch00F wrote:
dont bother sending me songs i have an album already in mind to play for when the cops find me
- Marco - wrote:
Wimpy Cursed wrote:
Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Karmine wrote:
See you next time.
i dont think there is a next timeKarmine wrote:
See you next time.
When he creates a new account to come back in 2 years.sametdze wrote:
i dont think there is a next timeKarmine wrote:
See you next time.