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Moral Dilemmas: The Self-driving Car (keremaru's suggestion)

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Who would you run over?

College student
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Pregnant woman
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Total votes: 17
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Stomiks
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Stomiks

Setting


You live in a world where great technological advancements have occurred in a short time period. Due to this, the rise of AI is now widely used among the wealthy and the poor. As part of the poor class, the quality of AI is inferior to those of the wealthier classes. As a result, you bought a used self-driving car with faulty AI but you didn't think much of it. Waking up the next day, you head to work using your new self-driving car. Everything has been going fine, so you thought to switch it to self-driving mode and get a few winks of sleep on the way to your office. You wake up after a while when the car starts rattling and going out of control. You try to turn it off, but it doesn't work. Ahead, there are people in each side crossing the street. You try your hardest to stop your car but it is futile. The only thing you can do now is steer the driving wheel.

Question


Your self-driving car is out of control and is heading straight towards a crosswalk. There's 1 person on each side of it. One is a college student that's been studying to become one of the world's greatest scientists, a great contributor to humanity. And one is a beautiful pregnant woman who just lost her husband in a car crash. You cannot stop your self-driving car, but you can ever so slightly steer it to the side enough so that it would run over and kill one of the people mentioned on each side. You can only save one person, but...

Who would you run over? The college student or the pregnant woman?

z0z
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z0z
i imagine this will be a lose-lose situation since you'll be charged for negligence anyway and someone dies
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Patatitta
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Patatitta
can I just try to drive it offroad
Cerno
169 posts
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Cerno
pregnant woman, i care alot about my k/d ratio. cant turn down a collateral double kill
Karmine
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Karmine
Pregnant woman because her life is already shit so might as well end it now, also fuck babies.
And killing the student would have a more negative impact on long term.
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus
Pregnant woman cuz she probably is smoking 🤵‍♀️
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i kms so i don't have to decide
Kaaruumii
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Kaaruumii
didnt read run over pregnant woman
Duck o-o
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Duck o-o
pregnant woman because 2 is better than 1
B0ii
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B0ii
I too would want to die if I lost my beloved
TGGD
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TGGD
I'd run over the pregnant women
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen
I jump out of the car, at least it won't be my fault.
abraker
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abraker
Pregnant woman. The college student is more likely to change humanity for the better, prob even figure out how to prevent this sort of bs from happening again
DeletedUser_13957006
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is it possible to kill both at the same time
Manishh
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Manishh
Pregnant women
reason: Her life is already shit, Having a child alone is a very hard thing to do.



I really dont think saving the student just because he "might" change the world should be the only reason since a opposite thing can also be happen. The main reason I didnt choose him was because he probably have a family and after his parents get old he is their to give them soldier
keremaru
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keremaru
Though this was initially a joke, I get the feeling that there's just too much going for the college student in this scenario to consider the pregnant woman as a viable option to save. Maybe if the decision was instantaneous and without future/past exposition, then things would have gone a different way. Or both decisions had either or past/future expositions, and not one and the other. Giving the college student a future prospect in a beneficial standard, like a world-renowned scientist, while giving the pregnant woman a past prospect in a darker tone, like her husband had died recently to this very scenario, doesn't make the dilemma very balanced.
Either way, I'm very glad the people of OT are all collectively ruining a family's bloodline just for fun or for collateral double kills. I'm very proud of you all.
And then there's a few people who have logic behind their statement because of an immediate solution instead of the prospect of a potential future benefit to all of society.
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Corne2Plum3
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13-0 do OT people hate pregnant women??
Karmine
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Karmine

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

13-0 do OT people hate pregnant women??
No, there's just an obviously right answer.

Or rather: yes, but there's also an obviously right answer.
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Stomiks
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Stomiks
Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

abraker
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abraker

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

Kaaruumii
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Kaaruumii

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

13-0 do OT people hate pregnant women??
13 manishhes out of 13 manishhes hate women
igorsprite
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igorsprite
ye, run over the woman
Stomiks
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Stomiks

abraker wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

Yeah pretty much what I feel lol
z0z
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z0z

Stomiks wrote:

abraker wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

Yeah pretty much what I feel lol
you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
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Karmine
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Karmine

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

You ask us to choose who to kill between someone who has a miserable life and no potential and someone who can potentially do great things for humanity. If someone chose to kill the student they better have a good reason.

z0z wrote:

you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
Yeah, If it was just a random student some people would kill him instead.
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z0z
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z0z

Karmine wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

You ask us to choose who to kill between someone who has a miserable life and no potential and someone who can potentially do great things for humanity. If someone chose to kill the student they better have a good reason.

z0z wrote:

you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
Yeah, If it was just a random student some people would kill him instead.
maybe stomiks puts moral weight towards family related stuff? idk
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Karmine
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Karmine

z0z wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

You ask us to choose who to kill between someone who has a miserable life and no potential and someone who can potentially do great things for humanity. If someone chose to kill the student they better have a good reason.

z0z wrote:

you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
Yeah, If it was just a random student some people would kill him instead.
maybe stomiks puts weight towards family related stuff? idk
Perhaps, I wouldn't expect osu players to be family oriented though
z0z
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z0z

Karmine wrote:

z0z wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

You ask us to choose who to kill between someone who has a miserable life and no potential and someone who can potentially do great things for humanity. If someone chose to kill the student they better have a good reason.

z0z wrote:

you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
Yeah, If it was just a random student some people would kill him instead.
maybe stomiks puts weight towards family related stuff? idk
Perhaps, I wouldn't expect osu players to be family oriented though
i don't think morals affects too much of what players come to osu
Manishh
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top 10 kindness moment caught on camera
Stomiks
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Stomiks

z0z wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Alright guys. It's clear that most of your morals have completely gone to shit. Safe to say I won't be doing anymore of these in the future until people with actually good morals join OT.

You ask us to choose who to kill between someone who has a miserable life and no potential and someone who can potentially do great things for humanity. If someone chose to kill the student they better have a good reason.

z0z wrote:

you stacked the cards too much against the woman with beneficial information about the student that would realistically be not known
Yeah, If it was just a random student some people would kill him instead.
maybe stomiks puts moral weight towards family related stuff? idk
Yeah that's what I was going for. Like, the pregnant woman's husband just died so I thought that some people won't vote for her since she's suffering, but in the future, she'll have a wonderful time with her future child something like that. But making the pregnant woman miserable from the get-go was a pretty bad idea since most people thought to end her suffering.
Cerno
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Cerno
brother im just here for the double kill man
Stomiks
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Stomiks

Result


You chose to steer the car towards the pregnant woman. The woman gets run over by your car, killing her and her baby instantly. After a few meters, your car broke down and finally stopped moving. You realized what you had done, but didn't flee the scene. Expectantly, law enforcement was called and arrested you. An investigation took place where inspectors noticed that this incident was not intentional, but of an accident due to faulty AI that's been controlling the car. After a court hearing, you are released without any charges. The pregnant woman's family filed a lawsuit against the car manufacturers and won the case. Politicians used this accident to ban AI from public use and took advantage of it for their own purposes.

After the college student witnessed the accident, he was horrified for the future of AI. Using this accident as motivation, he worked hard and became a leading researcher in artificial intelligence and convinced the public that AI has important uses for humanity and proved it's safety using his own newly developed artificial intelligence. After a few years, humanity flourished with AI being commonplace. Multiple expeditions to Mars were now possible and new technologies are being invented everyday using the help of AI. The college student turned lead researcher is now renowned to be one of the greatest scientists to ever exist.
igorsprite
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igorsprite
happy end
Stomiks
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Stomiks
After a short discussion, I have decided to relinquish my Moral Dilemmas series to keremaru. He'll be handling this series instead of me from now on. So yeah, don't expect much children killing in the future.
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Karmine
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Karmine

Cerno wrote:

brother im just here for the double kill man
deja vu
Karmine
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Karmine
Student turned out to be what elon musks pretends he is
Patatitta
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Patatitta
we we're just going for the genocide route
igorsprite
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igorsprite
these moral dilemmas are not even good .-.
TGGD
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TGGD

igorsprite wrote:

these moral dilemmas are not even good .-.
They're not good. They're Great
Patatitta
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Patatitta
I love the guy in the car having the insight of the whole universe and reading the future of the guy
Stomiks
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Stomiks

ThatGamingGD wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

these moral dilemmas are not even good .-.
They're not good. They're Great
Nah. I didn’t put much effort into these things so they’re pretty bad.
igorsprite
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igorsprite

Stomiks wrote:

ThatGamingGD wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

these moral dilemmas are not even good .-.
They're not good. They're Great
Nah. I didn’t put much effort into these things so they’re pretty bad.
you could at least use real life situations
Scyla
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Scyla
I wake up
abraker
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abraker

Stomiks wrote:

Result


You chose to steer the car towards the pregnant woman. The woman gets run over by your car, killing her and her baby instantly. After a few meters, your car broke down and finally stopped moving. You realized what you had done, but didn't flee the scene. Expectantly, law enforcement was called and arrested you. An investigation took place where inspectors noticed that this incident was not intentional, but of an accident due to faulty AI that's been controlling the car. After a court hearing, you are released without any charges. The pregnant woman's family filed a lawsuit against the car manufacturers and won the case. Politicians used this accident to ban AI from public use and took advantage of it for their own purposes.

After the college student witnessed the accident, he was horrified for the future of AI. Using this accident as motivation, he worked hard and became a leading researcher in artificial intelligence and convinced the public that AI has important uses for humanity and proved it's safety using his own newly developed artificial intelligence. After a few years, humanity flourished with AI being commonplace. Multiple expeditions to Mars were now possible and new technologies are being invented everyday using the help of AI. The college student turned lead researcher is now renowned to be one of the greatest scientists to ever exist.
Yay!
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