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Karmine

sametdze wrote:

mate you cant vomit inside of the actual train station you vomit inside a bin
In Paris people shit inside the metro.
sametdze
they done wastelanded MY (yes, MY) threads. both of em. rip
z0z
lmaooooo
sametdze
why the fuck is there a gap in all of my posts?
Corne2Plum3

sametdze wrote:

why the fuck is there a gap in all of my posts?
Because of the height of what's at the left on your post (pfp, name, etc.)
Ymir

z0z wrote:

lmaooooo
tf are you laughing at
Corne2Plum3

Ymir wrote:

z0z wrote:

lmaooooo
tf are you laughing at
The post above I guess?
Behrauder
Behrauder wrote here:

The other day, I had a dream that AI discovered a way to transport people into the world of anime. When I arrived there, I met two blonde twin anime girls, one was shy, and the other was more serious (but still a little shy). I was interested in the more serious one, and when we went to the beach together, she told me she liked me, but then she admitted that she was Reyalp51 (what?!). I didn't respond right away and ended up leaving. I have no idea why I dreamed this, but I think it's because Reyalp is a femboy.


The day before, I had a dream that Achromalia had drawn an umbrella in this thread. I don't remember any more details. I think this happened because Achromalia had posted in that thread, and then I went to sleep worried that when I woke up, no one would have drawn anything.

I was going to post this on ITT 2, but I forgot, lol.
Kobold84
@Behrauder
Share your opinion about gpt4.5 and claude3.7.
Behrauder

Kobold84 wrote:

@Behrauder
Share your opinion about gpt4.5 and claude3.7.
GPT-4.5 is currently only available for pro users (I'm on Plus). But based on other people's tests, it seems to be the most human-like model yet and also the most creative one. However, that's about it. It’s not a reasoning model, so it won’t excel in benchmarks. It’s not as impressive as expected (and it's extremely expensive), but its reduced confirmation bias is a great improvement. This model will be very useful for training future reasoning models, such as a potential o4 (though I doubt that will be the name).

As for Claude 3.7, Anthropic doesn’t seem to care about free users, and arguably, it doesn’t care much about anyone who isn’t using the API. Claude is clearly an LLM designed for developers rather than general use. For frontend development, it is far better than any other LLM, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. The problem is that if you request even a simple code (maybe what I consider simple isn't exactly simple), you'll likely hit your message limit after just two uses (and from what I understand, you'll have to start a new chat...). Because of this, Claude isn't really usable unless you’re accessing it via the API.

I'm excited to see what DeepSeek R2 will be able to do.
Kobold84

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

@Behrauder
Share your opinion about gpt4.5 and claude3.7.
GPT-4.5 is currently only available for pro users (I'm on Plus). But based on other people's tests, it seems to be the most human-like model yet and also the most creative one. However, that's about it. It’s not a reasoning model, so it won’t excel in benchmarks. It’s not as impressive as expected (and it's extremely expensive), but its reduced confirmation bias is a great improvement. This model will be very useful for training future reasoning models, such as a potential o4 (though I doubt that will be the name).

As for Claude 3.7, Anthropic doesn’t seem to care about free users, and arguably, it doesn’t care much about anyone who isn’t using the API. Claude is clearly an LLM designed for developers rather than general use. For frontend development, it is far better than any other LLM, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. The problem is that if you request even a simple code (maybe what I consider simple isn't exactly simple), you'll likely hit your message limit after just two uses (and from what I understand, you'll have to start a new chat...). Because of this, Claude isn't really usable unless you’re accessing it via the API.

I'm excited to see what DeepSeek R2 will be able to do.
Yeah, I agree about the claude point, however the performance is really there. Tested it a bit and it outperforms 4.5 and does a better job of handling your input without too much handholding. It excels at understanding what you want rather than parsing your prompt too literally. GPT-4.5 is pretty much the same as its previous iterations which is disappointing. DeepSeek V3 right now seems clearly superior.

And claude somehow knows too much obscure stuff. This is good.
Serraionga
i have an rtx 4070 and i have been using it to emulate nintendo ds games for the past 2 months

The only games that matter.
Karmine

Serraionga wrote:

i have an rtx 4070 and i have been using it to emulate nintendo ds games for the past 2 months

The only games that matter.
Same, half the games I play are PS1/2, the rest are mostly games that run on a potato.
I'll occasionally play something like Cyberpunk (with hundreds of mods too) so I need the good stuff.
BluePyTheDeer_
I might have ShowcaseUK'd some impossible levels.
Patatitta

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

I might have ShowcaseUK'd some impossible levels.
I mean, as long as you don't claim them as legitimate like spaceUK that's fine
Behrauder


I still can't get past Earth, so how did eblf (Nuuskamuikkunen) already finish the Universe? I believe it's a hack...

Anyway, if you are eblf and you're reading this: what happens when you finish the Universe? Do you die? Do you become god? Do you get an achievement for it? Is there a restart button?
Patatitta

Behrauder wrote:



I still can't get past Earth, so how did eblf (Nuuskamuikkunen) already finish the Universe? I believe it's a hack...

Anyway, if you are eblf and you're reading this: what happens when you finish the Universe? Do you die? Do you become god? Do you get an achievement for it? Is there a restart button?
you go to a place further than the universe
BluePyTheDeer_
I always leave a comment about botting said level, because I only bot them for fun.
sametdze
/


something about that "waaahhh" sound at the end scratches my brain
Kobold84

sametdze wrote:

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something about that "waaahhh" sound at the end scratches my brain
Nuuskamuikkunen

Behrauder wrote:



I still can't get past Earth, so how did eblf (Nuuskamuikkunen) already finish the Universe? I believe it's a hack...

Anyway, if you are eblf and you're reading this: what happens when you finish the Universe? Do you die? Do you become god? Do you get an achievement for it? Is there a restart button?
It was surprisingly short, now I need to finish multiverse.
My memories of finishing it were erased and was pressed ctrl-z to any potential changes. So yeah there is a restart button but you cannot press it.
z0z
i made a map in lazer
Offdensen
this thread is twelve years old. what
sametdze
sametdze
im trying to watch black rock shooter and so far my entire mindset has just been "WTF XD"

i dont think im the right audience for this one :(

should i listen to the song, read the lyrics and THEN watch it? would that help?
abraker

Behrauder wrote:

with these result it's being taught how to win the game not how to play the game

the equivalent of asking "what do I do now" every time you hit a new checkpoint or level in the game
Aireunaeus
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Achromalia

Aireunaeus wrote:

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oh waiiit this is a tiny bit different... your sense of harmony(?) might be improving :OO slow but appropriate development and pace, its a little more thoughtful and pensive

and the ambient atmosphere, as usual, is lovely
Behrauder
I decided to test a new feature in Google AI Studio, and this happened...



But someone was able to do this:




Why? ;-;
Wimpy Cursed
probably had a good time detailing everything

could possibly be an older picture, before any update regarding originality
reffty_gag

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random.wav

(i somehow proud of this project cuz i synthesize the drums by myself)
Behrauder
There is no share button to prove this is not edited...

Edit: There is.



Kobold84

Behrauder wrote:

I decided to test a new feature in Google AI Studio, and this happened...
Serraionga
i have been granted the means to play the gen 8 and 9 pokemon games

after all these years i will finally get to see if the dex cut was worth it. i have very low expectations
Corne2Plum3
Took me 30 attempts to beat Sans Undertale
Karmine
Difficulty calculation is turbo mega slow I swear it never ends.
Aireunaeus
i feel like im at the lowest point...
Corne2Plum3
Karmine
After months of being at 990+.

Corne2Plum3

Karmine wrote:

After months of being at 990+.

Time for you to touch grass
Karmine

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Karmine wrote:

After months of being at 990+.

Time for you to touch grass
Never.
synthwavesquid
deltarune tomorrow
Corne2Plum3

synthwavesquid wrote:

deltarune tomorrow
Reyalp51
:3
silmarilen
:3
BrokenArrow
:3
abraker

Behrauder wrote:

There is no share button to prove this is not edited...

Edit: There is.



lmaoooooooo
Ymir
At Dandenong, these two Ephs have been fighting over a paper bag for the past 5 minutes.

Behrauder
While not perfect, this new image generator from OpenAI is very impressive!



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Patatitta
AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
Behrauder

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I won't use it for the manga, I just wanted to test this new update. :)

Also, why in your screenshot is my image broken? it is not (at least for me)...
Kobold84
Images work for me.

This new model is generally impressive, but alas its anime capabilities are lacking. All images look even more generic and not only in style, in composition as well. Perhaps it's for the best.
Behrauder

Kobold84 wrote:

Images work for me.

This new model is generally impressive, but alas its anime capabilities are lacking. All images look even more generic and not only in style, in composition as well. Perhaps it's for the best.
For me, it's the only model that can generate anime images that don’t feel like fanart. Like, I think the first image looks like fanart, but the second one feels more like actual anime.

Maybe I just don't know many image generators, but I think the only ones capable of something similar are those that need LoRA or something like that, but I've never seen a real example that doesn't feel like fanart, so Idk.
Kobold84

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Images work for me.

This new model is generally impressive, but alas its anime capabilities are lacking. All images look even more generic and not only in style, in composition as well. Perhaps it's for the best.
For me, it's the only model that can generate anime images that don’t feel like fanart. Like, I think the first image looks like fanart, but the second one feels more like actual anime.

Maybe I just don't know many image generators, but I think the only ones capable of something similar are those that need LoRA or something like that, but I've never seen a real example that doesn't feel like fanart, so Idk.
What do you mean by "feel fanart"? All the images in your example (apart from the last one) have pretty much the same composition and style, it's hard to shake off the feeling of deja vu. The manga part is however rather impressive but not in terms of style and detail, it's good because it's not static — it actually does more than a simple pose, which is one of the things good anime models struggle with.
Behrauder

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Images work for me.

This new model is generally impressive, but alas its anime capabilities are lacking. All images look even more generic and not only in style, in composition as well. Perhaps it's for the best.
For me, it's the only model that can generate anime images that don’t feel like fanart. Like, I think the first image looks like fanart, but the second one feels more like actual anime.

Maybe I just don't know many image generators, but I think the only ones capable of something similar are those that need LoRA or something like that, but I've never seen a real example that doesn't feel like fanart, so Idk.
What do you mean by "feel fanart"? All the images in your example (apart from the last one) have pretty much the same composition and style, it's hard to shake off the feeling of deja vu. The manga part is however rather impressive but not in terms of style and detail, it's good because it's not static — it actually does more than a simple pose, which is one of the things good anime models struggle with.
I don't understand how the second image looks like the first one. The first one has a lot of details that wouldn't be practical to animate, so it's more common in fanarts than in animations. The second one looks more like anime because it's simpler, and... I don't know, it just feels more similar to real anime, I think.

Cool image (unless you pay attention to the details, since there are many errors...)
This model is the first one that can put anime characters in real life!:

Kobold84

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Images work for me.

This new model is generally impressive, but alas its anime capabilities are lacking. All images look even more generic and not only in style, in composition as well. Perhaps it's for the best.
For me, it's the only model that can generate anime images that don’t feel like fanart. Like, I think the first image looks like fanart, but the second one feels more like actual anime.

Maybe I just don't know many image generators, but I think the only ones capable of something similar are those that need LoRA or something like that, but I've never seen a real example that doesn't feel like fanart, so Idk.
What do you mean by "feel fanart"? All the images in your example (apart from the last one) have pretty much the same composition and style, it's hard to shake off the feeling of deja vu. The manga part is however rather impressive but not in terms of style and detail, it's good because it's not static — it actually does more than a simple pose, which is one of the things good anime models struggle with.
I don't understand how the second image looks like the first one. The first one has a lot of details that wouldn't be practical to animate, so it's more common in fanarts than in animations. The second one looks more like anime because it's simpler, and... I don't know, it just feels more similar to real anime, I think.

Cool image (unless you pay attention to the details, since there are many errors...)
This model is the first one that can put anime characters in real life!:

Ah, so you meant as in fanart VS animation, got it. The colors are reminiscent of the anime style, correct, but it's not really drawn that way. It feels like an imitation. One that could be drawn by humans, but still different from a real animated piece. It's hard for me to pinpoint as to why it appears to be that way, but I still see it as a fanart rather than an animation snippet.

Probably mostly coloring and image artifacts. You can probably handhold it to generate something more similar to "anime screenshots" so that it fixes the above.
reffty_gag




Sawtu shofiiril bulbuliy, hayyaj qalbits tsamili
Al ma-u wazzahru ma'a, ma'zahri nakhthim muqali

Wa anta yaa sayyidal liy, wasayyidiy wa maw laliy
Fakam fakam tayammuniy, 'uzayyilul 'aqiqali

Fathoftahu miw wajnatin, mil latsmi wardil khajali
Fa qala laa laa laa laa, wa qad ghadaa mu harwili

Walkhudu maa lat thoraban, min fa'li haa dzar rajuli
Fa wal walat wa wal walat, waliy waliyya way laliy

Faqultu laa tu walwily, Wa bayyinil lu'lu aliy
Qaa lat lahu hiyna kadza, innah dhawijd bil muqali

Wa fityatin saqaw lani, qahwat kal'usasiliy
Syamamtuhaa bi-anafi azka minal quruquni

Fi wasthi bustanil huliy bilzahri wasururuliy
Wa'ludu dandan dana li, watoblu tob tob tobali

Tob tobi tob tob tobi tob tob tobi tob tob tobaliy
Wasaqfu saq saq saqliy wa raqsu qad tho ba iliy

Syawaa syawaa wa syaa hisyu, 'ala waraq sifarjali
Wagarradil qimriya yishiyhu malalil fii malaliy

Wa law taraaniy raakiban, 'ala himarin azzali
Yimsyii 'ala tsalatsatin kamsyyatil 'aranjiniy

Wannasu tarjim jamaliy, fissuwqi bil qulqulaliy
Walkullu kalka'ka'ika' khalfi waminhu waylaliy

Lakim nasyaytu haa riban, min khasyyatil 'aqaqali
Ila liqaa-i malikin, mu'adzhdzhamim mubajjali...

Ya'muruliy bikhil'atin, khamra-a kaddam damaliy
Ajurru fiiha maa syiyan, mubghadidal lidzdziyali

Anal-adiibul alma'iy, min hayyi' ardhil mushili
Nadzhimtu qith'an zikhrifat, ya'ajuzu 'anhal-adbuli
Aquulu fi mathla-'ihaa shawtu shafiiri bulbuliy


it's just an arabian tongue twister song
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
Aireunaeus
/
Wimpy Cursed
piaNo
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Aireunaeus

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

piaNo
piaYes

/
Wimpy Cursed
you failed on being neither funny
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
MangaGrumpy

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
Yeah, imo, AI is something that should only be in stories, not used for stories
Karmine
Replacing art with AI slop is the worst possible use of AI, even using it for war machines arguably has a production value (if you're a terrible person) but using it to generate text and images has 0 value.
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
Hey that show was my childhood and it tragically ended on a cliffhanger. By the sound of it, it doesn't seem you are much of a fan of it, but I consider it one of the best animated shows on cartoon network.

I think the current state of AI is enough to trick people into thinking it's good without making sense in specifics. There is that hope that AI will be able to someday mimic the human subtly in art, which you may doubt, but I know will one day be possible to be "good enough". I think your fear of AI content stems from how much slop is currently being produced, and I agree that based on that slop, any story generated by AI would be incoherent and any animation generated by AI will have misplaced details. If you think I am ok with having that in an AI generated series, then you got the wrong idea. I don't believe you can have AI producing all stages of production, and I don't advise, even when AI is "good enough", for it to be producing all stages of production without supervision and additional polishing by actual artists, writers, etc.

Take this hypothetical "good enough" AI. I wouldn't trust it. I would require writers and artists take what it generated as a basis and improve upon it. You cannot assume AI is always correct because fundamentally it can't be always correct. There still will need to be correction for quality control be done. Now if you ask whether it is more cost effective for AI to generate stuff and then have a person fix it or have the person create the work from scratch, I don't really know. I like to believe that with AI 70% of the work would be done and the remaining 30% is fix up, but reality is that fixing mistakes is often more expensive than doing things proper. There does exist some kind of threshold where the AI slop rate decreases enough that it does become more profitable to have AI generate than have people fix the generated content.

Currently as things stand many "techbros" that are even more unreasonably excited about the technology than I am would throw money for such slop. They don't care about subtlety or human details or things to make sense. Just that it looks visualy appealing, and not care much if a character grew an extra finger in one shot. Those also happen to the type of people that don't give a shit about how the AI is trained. That's where the current AI market is at. Going back to my original comment that artists should be training their own art and licensing it, if they really want to make money, they can take advantage of that demand while the craze is still there.
Aireunaeus

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

you failed on being neither funny
task failed succesfully???

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Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
Hey that show was my childhood and it tragically ended on a cliffhanger. By the sound of it, it doesn't seem you are much of a fan of it, but I consider it one of the best animated shows on cartoon network.

I think the current state of AI is enough to trick people into thinking it's good without making sense in specifics. There is that hope that AI will be able to someday mimic the human subtly in art, which you may doubt, but I know will one day be possible to be "good enough". I think your fear of AI content stems from how much slop is currently being produced, and I agree that based on that slop, any story generated by AI would be incoherent and any animation generated by AI will have misplaced details. If you think I am ok with having that in an AI generated series, then you got the wrong idea. I don't believe you can have AI producing all stages of production, and I don't advise, even when AI is "good enough", for it to be producing all stages of production without supervision and additional polishing by actual artists, writers, etc.

Take this hypothetical "good enough" AI. I wouldn't trust it. I would require writers and artists take what it generated as a basis and improve upon it. You cannot assume AI is always correct because fundamentally it can't be always correct. There still will need to be correction for quality control be done. Now if you ask whether it is more cost effective for AI to generate stuff and then have a person fix it or have the person create the work from scratch, I don't really know. I like to believe that with AI 70% of the work would be done and the remaining 30% is fix up, but reality is that fixing mistakes is often more expensive than doing things proper. There does exist some kind of threshold where the AI slop rate decreases enough that it does become more profitable to have AI generate than have people fix the generated content.

Currently as things stand many "techbros" that are even more unreasonably excited about the technology than I am would throw money for such slop. They don't care about subtlety or human details or things to make sense. Just that it looks visualy appealing, and not care much if a character grew an extra finger in one shot. Those also happen to the type of people that don't give a shit about how the AI is trained. That's where the current AI market is at. Going back to my original comment that artists should be training their own art and licensing it, if they really want to make money, they can take advantage of that demand while the craze is still there.
I don't think you get the point, again, for shows or manga or whatever who is generally low quality entertainment, sure, still not a fan but those shows were already slop in the first place, but for making art with meaning, no ammount of "tricking the viewer into thinking it's good" suffices, you can generate a infinite ammount of AI novels and you wont once get a new kafka or a new camus, that is because while you can make something that sounds true at first glance, you can't producve something as well thought and as a brilliantly written as that

AI falls apart the moment you think about it, and I don't read manga with my brain empty, I actively try to analyze and find meaning in it, and once again, you can't make AI drawings as well thought as what a really good artist can produce

if the only thing you consume is slop, then AI or not make no difference for you, but for me?, that isn't going to work
abraker

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
Hey that show was my childhood and it tragically ended on a cliffhanger. By the sound of it, it doesn't seem you are much of a fan of it, but I consider it one of the best animated shows on cartoon network.

I think the current state of AI is enough to trick people into thinking it's good without making sense in specifics. There is that hope that AI will be able to someday mimic the human subtly in art, which you may doubt, but I know will one day be possible to be "good enough". I think your fear of AI content stems from how much slop is currently being produced, and I agree that based on that slop, any story generated by AI would be incoherent and any animation generated by AI will have misplaced details. If you think I am ok with having that in an AI generated series, then you got the wrong idea. I don't believe you can have AI producing all stages of production, and I don't advise, even when AI is "good enough", for it to be producing all stages of production without supervision and additional polishing by actual artists, writers, etc.

Take this hypothetical "good enough" AI. I wouldn't trust it. I would require writers and artists take what it generated as a basis and improve upon it. You cannot assume AI is always correct because fundamentally it can't be always correct. There still will need to be correction for quality control be done. Now if you ask whether it is more cost effective for AI to generate stuff and then have a person fix it or have the person create the work from scratch, I don't really know. I like to believe that with AI 70% of the work would be done and the remaining 30% is fix up, but reality is that fixing mistakes is often more expensive than doing things proper. There does exist some kind of threshold where the AI slop rate decreases enough that it does become more profitable to have AI generate than have people fix the generated content.

Currently as things stand many "techbros" that are even more unreasonably excited about the technology than I am would throw money for such slop. They don't care about subtlety or human details or things to make sense. Just that it looks visualy appealing, and not care much if a character grew an extra finger in one shot. Those also happen to the type of people that don't give a shit about how the AI is trained. That's where the current AI market is at. Going back to my original comment that artists should be training their own art and licensing it, if they really want to make money, they can take advantage of that demand while the craze is still there.
I don't think you get the point, again, for shows or manga or whatever who is generally low quality entertainment, sure, still not a fan but those shows were already slop in the first place, but for making art with meaning, no ammount of "tricking the viewer into thinking it's good" suffices, you can generate a infinite ammount of AI novels and you wont once get a new kafka or a new camus, that is because while you can make something that sounds true at first glance, you can't producve something as well thought and as a brilliantly written as that

AI falls apart the moment you think about it, and I don't read manga with my brain empty, I actively try to analyze and find meaning in it, and once again, you can't make AI drawings as well thought as what a really good artist can produce

if the only thing you consume is slop, then AI or not make no difference for you, but for me?, that isn't going to work
I guess something needs to be made by AI that is capable of fooling you into thinking a human made it. This hypothetical point is not close yet, but I expect it to come, and I expect you to be surprised to find out something you would rate S tier is actually made by AI. I guess that's a kind of turring test.
Patatitta

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

abraker wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

AI will never cease to amaze me, this looks so good!



also if you use AI for the manga I will quite literally murder you
I think artists need to train AI on their own style to make their production process more efficient. They should also be able to license their style via trained models, but everyone is dead set on the "ai is artistic theft stigma" and unfortunately most artists are not tech savyy enough to know how to accomplish the suggested
that would be ethical but I don't think that would be good, for example, I'm reading a tkmiz manga which has really original and shocking art, I see 20 fishes hidden across one episode and that makes me think about what the fuck was tkmiz trying to do there, if tkmiz trained an AI, yes, it would look like tkmiz (if you exclude the fact it cant innovate and only replicate what they have already done so stuff like the paneling would probably look like hi no tori), but if I spot those 20 fishes, and I were to ask that same question I know the answer is probably nothing, that it's meaningless

visual art can be as expressive as written text, the drawings are not something you just have to do out of obligation, is part of the fun of it. Would you buy a book if you knew it was entirerily AI generated?, knowing it's ethical or whatever, I don't think so

also yes, the image was just broken on my end, it didn't load because idk, the rest of images on that same post did load tho.
If you are hung up on enjoying works with subtle storytelling elements and deep literary devices, then yea, it makes sense for all stages to be human made. That is obviously not what AI developed works are for; not for people who prefer deep human elements.

However, if the story is engaging and the AI art looks developed enough not to have those AIness artifacts, I'd watch it and enjoy it. For example, if someone gets the rights to keep developing the original Teen Titans, continues the banger story, uses AI to cut costs, and the audio & visuals are indistinguishable from the original, then I would be all for it.

There are also many ideas that don't get off the ground due the large costs and time associated with the production. And I am not talking about established studios, but small independent artists that don't have budget or time to develop their ideas. I believe AI can be a game changer for such creators. Granted it has to be done right as to not let any AI jank slip through.
Why do you want a slop creator?, in what world is removing the human element of art something acceptable? I mean if you want to watch to mass produce even more seasons of motherfucking teen titans you do you, but... why?????

about the indie stuff, I heavily disagree, one or two person can do a lot without money if they just find an acceptable scope. I don't really think AI is opening a lot of doors here, there is already, a lot, and I really mean, A LOT of people just passion projects without money and in a few month's time, and once again, I tell you, the visual portion is as importan as the written dialogue, I guess that if you want to make teen titans that is fine but why the fuck would you want to do teen titans
Hey that show was my childhood and it tragically ended on a cliffhanger. By the sound of it, it doesn't seem you are much of a fan of it, but I consider it one of the best animated shows on cartoon network.

I think the current state of AI is enough to trick people into thinking it's good without making sense in specifics. There is that hope that AI will be able to someday mimic the human subtly in art, which you may doubt, but I know will one day be possible to be "good enough". I think your fear of AI content stems from how much slop is currently being produced, and I agree that based on that slop, any story generated by AI would be incoherent and any animation generated by AI will have misplaced details. If you think I am ok with having that in an AI generated series, then you got the wrong idea. I don't believe you can have AI producing all stages of production, and I don't advise, even when AI is "good enough", for it to be producing all stages of production without supervision and additional polishing by actual artists, writers, etc.

Take this hypothetical "good enough" AI. I wouldn't trust it. I would require writers and artists take what it generated as a basis and improve upon it. You cannot assume AI is always correct because fundamentally it can't be always correct. There still will need to be correction for quality control be done. Now if you ask whether it is more cost effective for AI to generate stuff and then have a person fix it or have the person create the work from scratch, I don't really know. I like to believe that with AI 70% of the work would be done and the remaining 30% is fix up, but reality is that fixing mistakes is often more expensive than doing things proper. There does exist some kind of threshold where the AI slop rate decreases enough that it does become more profitable to have AI generate than have people fix the generated content.

Currently as things stand many "techbros" that are even more unreasonably excited about the technology than I am would throw money for such slop. They don't care about subtlety or human details or things to make sense. Just that it looks visualy appealing, and not care much if a character grew an extra finger in one shot. Those also happen to the type of people that don't give a shit about how the AI is trained. That's where the current AI market is at. Going back to my original comment that artists should be training their own art and licensing it, if they really want to make money, they can take advantage of that demand while the craze is still there.
I don't think you get the point, again, for shows or manga or whatever who is generally low quality entertainment, sure, still not a fan but those shows were already slop in the first place, but for making art with meaning, no ammount of "tricking the viewer into thinking it's good" suffices, you can generate a infinite ammount of AI novels and you wont once get a new kafka or a new camus, that is because while you can make something that sounds true at first glance, you can't producve something as well thought and as a brilliantly written as that

AI falls apart the moment you think about it, and I don't read manga with my brain empty, I actively try to analyze and find meaning in it, and once again, you can't make AI drawings as well thought as what a really good artist can produce

if the only thing you consume is slop, then AI or not make no difference for you, but for me?, that isn't going to work
I guess something needs to be made by AI that is capable of fooling you into thinking a human made it. This hypothetical point is not close yet, but I expect it to come, and I expect you to be surprised to find out something you would rate S tier is actually made by AI. I guess that's a kind of turring test.
I don't think that's ever happening
Behrauder
Wimpy Cursed
abraker

Behrauder wrote:

Is this ethically ok for me to add to the OT Art Museum?
z0z

abraker wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Is this ethically ok for me to add to the OT Art Museum?
kinda hard to actually tell if it's ai vs a 3d generation
but i'm leaning toward it being ai because does patatitta really look like that? i don't think he looks this round or like a generic yellow smiley
Ymir
I'm leaning toward it being AI because it's Behrauder
Are you going to put AI Art in the OT Museum?
Behrauder

abraker wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Is this ethically ok for me to add to the OT Art Museum?
This is AI, so I don't think so...

But it's up to you to decide.
Corne2Plum3

Behrauder wrote:

abraker wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Is this ethically ok for me to add to the OT Art Museum?
This is AI, so I don't think so...

But it's up to you to decide.
Please keep the OT!Museum out of the AI slop
Kobold84
Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Behrauder

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Good idea. I never really cared much about AI images, but things are getting more interesting now.
Serraionga
generative AI is shit and anything that comes out of it is shit too, not surprising actual artists want nothing to do with it

in other more relevant news the nintendo direct just finished some time ago. lots of cool stuff, silksong appearing for like 3 seconds, runedelta, gimmicks i don't care about, fromsoft exclusive (?? fucking why), Mario Car™. no new 3D mario though which is strange
Corne2Plum3

Serraionga wrote:

generative AI is shit and anything that comes out of it is shit too, not surprising actual artists want nothing to do with it

in other more relevant news the nintendo direct just finished some time ago. lots of cool stuff, silksong appearing for like 3 seconds, runedelta, gimmicks i don't care about, fromsoft exclusive (?? fucking why), Mario Car™. no new 3D mario though which is strange
90 euros for Mario Kart World wtf
Behrauder

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Before that, I need to generate a few more images.



Karmine

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Before that, I need to generate a few more images.



This is serrai's post but unironically.
Behrauder

Karmine was probably joking (or misunderstood me) and wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Before that, I need to generate a few more images.



This is serrai's post but unironically.
This one?
Karmine

Behrauder wrote:

Karmine was probably joking (or misunderstood me) and wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Before that, I need to generate a few more images.



This is serrai's post but unironically.
This one?
Yeah.
BluePyTheDeer_
I managed to download a deleted song from Newgrounds, easily done by just researching how songs are stored and looking for the link on the web source on Internet Archive.
Aireunaeus
what i find cool about ai images is the ability to reimagine things on your head and satisfying your expectations. thats one good way to use ai. the only bad thing is to publish it and claim it was you who made it.
abraker

Behrauder wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Behrauder, it's time to start the AI Museum.
Before that, I need to generate a few more images.



There is also this
community/forums/posts/9477476

there is also a thread by me featuring AI gen art of OT historical moments but I cant find it
reffty_gag
sametdze
nissan, honda, mitsubitshi, subaru hits hard
reffty_gag

sametdze wrote:

nissan, honda, mitsubitshi, subaru hits hard
FUJITSU !!!
BluePyTheDeer_
How the hell does my first published level in GD (Straight Fly) have more downloads than any of my more serious projects?
Patatitta

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

How the hell does my first published level in GD (Straight Fly) have more downloads than any of my more serious projects?
people search for levels called "straight fly", plus, it's been out the longest. If not any of your levels is rated, dont' expect quality to matter
BluePyTheDeer_

Patatitta wrote:

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

How the hell does my first published level in GD (Straight Fly) have more downloads than any of my more serious projects?
people search for levels called "straight fly", plus, it's been out the longest. If not any of your levels is rated, dont' expect quality to matter
Well then


Also remember that Black Blizzard reference I made in that ONE level? It's replaced in the finished version.


ID (finished): 116883196
Serraionga
community/forums/topics/2064464
community/forums/topics/2064535

can any of you mods also edit the main post of these (and future ones) so the link to their team is broken or some shit. kinda like this. it'd be funnier that way
abraker

Serraionga wrote:

community/forums/topics/2064464
community/forums/topics/2064535

can any of you mods also edit the main post of these (and future ones) so the link to their team is broken or some shit. kinda like this. it'd be funnier that way
hehe
BluePyTheDeer_

abraker wrote:

Serraionga wrote:

community/forums/topics/2064464
community/forums/topics/2064535

can any of you mods also edit the main post of these (and future ones) so the link to their team is broken or some shit. kinda like this. it'd be funnier that way
hehe
That'll teach them hehe
Corne2Plum3
lmao I should do that next time
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