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Thank you, Isekai! (read all that was published to this point, since it's still ongoing)

This is somehow better than I expected and worse than I expected, both at the same time.

Thank you isekai is a manga about two people that die at a highschool reunion party due to alcohol poisoning that are reborn in a isekai world as the opposite gender, and surprisingly, the setting isn't bad at all. The actual art is pretty good, and there are a couple scenes that you can feel like the story is actually trying to pull of something cool, however, I feel it completely fumbles the execution

While the art is good, it's never given space to flourish, the manga never relies on it's good art like a shinichi sakamoto would, every individual panel is detailed and nice, but it never produces any individual panel that is really impactful to you, no real moment in the manga is elevated by the art, it just doesn't take advantage of it, this is better than if they didn't have good art at all, but I believe it's missed potential.

Now, what I don't like about this manga and honestly the whole reason keeping this down, it cant help itself but be extremely sexual for no reason at all. It relies WAYYYYY too hard on sex appeal, and it's not even like regular fanservice, but more there are like 3 scenes about rape so far, there is also a scene involving a gloryhole and some other stuff too, there is also basically no plot.

However, inside that mess there is actually a really great moment that would actually have been very good if the rest of the manga were different. After some time has happened and the protagonists have gone over the shock and dopamine of being in a isekai world, one of the protagonist gets fairly depressed about having died in the real world and being turned into a girl, they end up developing a very pessimistic and nihilistic view of things, and basically decide to sell themselve for sex work. Although, the other protagonist accidently walks into them and some random dude they picked up from the street about to have sex and forces them to not do it.

This scene is actually good, it's the first time any of those themes are brought up in the manga, it would have been pretty impactful if the earlier part of the manga had been done better, the idea of being reborn in a isekai world as a girl, being happy for a while, until that happiness slowly fades away and are forced to live with the knowledge of having died in the real world while also tackling the dysphoria inherent to being turned the opposite sex in a medieval fantasy scenario is a really good one, but they just don't want to do it, the author doesn't seem to write a story like that

That scene doesn't seem to have any weight for the rest of the story, it just tries to move into a more generic type of isekai once again, all the sexual mentions moving forwards are also done in pretty bad taste and with none of the nuances of that one scene, just going back to fetishizing lesbians and whatever.

I do think the writer and illustrator have the potential to write a REALLY good story in general, they have good art and while even trying to do something commercial and generic it did flash peak fiction for a moment, they're just too blinded by their own boner to realize that potential

so yeah, this sadly goes in D tier

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nothing on the reading list

still playing gta

close to finishing akagi, I may be able to finish it tomorrow
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DM FOR MUTUAL
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Patatitta wrote:

Thank you, Isekai! (read all that was published to this point, since it's still ongoing)

This is somehow better than I expected and worse than I expected, both at the same time.

Thank you isekai is a manga about two people that die at a highschool reunion party due to alcohol poisoning that are reborn in a isekai world as the opposite gender, and surprisingly, the setting isn't bad at all. The actual art is pretty good, and there are a couple scenes that you can feel like the story is actually trying to pull of something cool, however, I feel it completely fumbles the execution

While the art is good, it's never given space to flourish, the manga never relies on it's good art like a shinichi sakamoto would, every individual panel is detailed and nice, but it never produces any individual panel that is really impactful to you, no real moment in the manga is elevated by the art, it just doesn't take advantage of it, this is better than if they didn't have good art at all, but I believe it's missed potential.

Now, what I don't like about this manga and honestly the whole reason keeping this down, it cant help itself but be extremely sexual for no reason at all. It relies WAYYYYY too hard on sex appeal, and it's not even like regular fanservice, but more there are like 3 scenes about rape so far, there is also a scene involving a gloryhole and some other stuff too, there is also basically no plot.

However, inside that mess there is actually a really great moment that would actually have been very good if the rest of the manga were different. After some time has happened and the protagonists have gone over the shock and dopamine of being in a isekai world, one of the protagonist gets fairly depressed about having died in the real world and being turned into a girl, they end up developing a very pessimistic and nihilistic view of things, and basically decide to sell themselve for sex work. Although, the other protagonist accidently walks into them and some random dude they picked up from the street about to have sex and forces them to not do it.

This scene is actually good, it's the first time any of those themes are brought up in the manga, it would have been pretty impactful if the earlier part of the manga had been done better, the idea of being reborn in a isekai world as a girl, being happy for a while, until that happiness slowly fades away and are forced to live with the knowledge of having died in the real world while also tackling the dysphoria inherent to being turned the opposite sex in a medieval fantasy scenario is a really good one, but they just don't want to do it, the author doesn't seem to write a story like that

That scene doesn't seem to have any weight for the rest of the story, it just tries to move into a more generic type of isekai once again, all the sexual mentions moving forwards are also done in pretty bad taste and with none of the nuances of that one scene, just going back to fetishizing lesbians and whatever.

I do think the writer and illustrator have the potential to write a REALLY good story in general, they have good art and while even trying to do something commercial and generic it did flash peak fiction for a moment, they're just too blinded by their own boner to realize that potential

so yeah, this sadly goes in D tier

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nothing on the reading list

still playing gta

close to finishing akagi, I may be able to finish it tomorrow
At least I guessed where you'll put it correctly lol

I think I might be the only one in existence who glazes this manga 😭

Not only is in not that highly regarded in general, but there's like no-one talking about it online, which is kinda why I wanted to see your thoughts on it. Maybe this is just an excuse for me to talk about it as well.

I expected the weird sexual elements of this manga to be the main complaint, like yeah it's kinda horny with some really weird scenes. I feel like from what I read this is what a lot of people didn't like about the manga as well, and for very good reason. Idk why it didn't bother me that much though, maybe because this didn't feel that out of place with a lot of other stuff I've come across, and at least this has a huge leg up by not being explicitly about minors at least.

I think the problem with the sexual elements here is that it doesn't feel like it's done in a way in which it feels like you're supposed to particularly enjoy (at least I hope), like it's not done in a way to have the reader enjoy it sexually or to explore any really interesting ideas (for the most part), just kinda for shock value and humour which could've been achieved without this much sexual stuff, yet it still goes quite far in spite of that. Add onto that how the original owners of the body are established as proper, independent characters that are likely to appear later, and their bodies being portrayed sexually without their consent or knowledge or anything (without it even being addressed in the manga, or at least I don't remember it being a big thing) feels very icky and in bad taste. In spite of me saying all this I still don't really know why it didn't bother me that much, maybe it's just that I enjoyed everything else to the point where I could overlook this aspect of the manga.

One thing I didn't think about before was how you said that there was this one great moment and that it would've been cool to explore more of that, and honestly I agree. But I also feel like it would go against what the manga is trying to be, like you can't really have a fun isekai adventure if you are constantly experiencing dysphoria with your situation.

Like I disagree that it fumbles with the execution, because what it was trying to execute was basically "what if we took isekai and made it actually good and interesting while still keeping the spirit of isekai" and it nails that imo.

I really feel like this pulls away from the other isekai out there because instead of just going to some generic isekai world with some generic isekai power and having some generic isekai adventure and there's a ton of cute girls for some reason, I feel like the author tried to approach isekai from a more grounded, realistic angle. For the main characters the world isn't everything open to them to do whatever, it's a struggle just like how anyone would struggle going to a different world. They're (I forgot their names lol) not equally fortunate with the bodies they were given, just like if any two people were reincarnated into two random bodies, they would also be far from equal. Of course you'd wonder about what happened to you in your original body and are shook that you died, and of course you'd wonder about who's body you'd taken. Even the sexual stuff to some extent, if a straight non-asexual male was reincarnated to a girl yeah they'd get horny. It feels like the author thought of isekai concepts and went "hmm, what would it actually be like", and it's incredibly refreshing and makes everything feel so much more engaging, I remember there being so many interesting moments watching two people believably explore and navigate an isekai world.

Yet at the same time it's all about the isekai experience, that sense of adventure and the new beginning that isekai are about, and which the main characters strive and work hard for. A big theme is the character's own relationship with isekai and fantasy, especially with things like the magic system being the one the elf came up with as a kid, and him as a teen rejecting that magic system which is reflected as him losing a bunch of his power, it feels like an intimate exploration of this person's relationship with fantasy in general.

As much as it subverts common isekai tropes it feels like a celebration and exploration of isekai and a work fully commited to enjoy isekai for what it is, which I think might be what the title is referring to. And that sense of adventure is so well captured, I remember being hooked to this reading late into the night and having proper manga withdrawal when I had to stop, something I don't really feel like I've felt in a long time, it really felt like I got swept into it.

I'd go as far to say that out of every isekai I've read (a fuckton) this and re zero (which also got a d lol) are the only two good isekai ever which actually properly utilise and explore the idea of an isekai.

And it's interesting that I'm kinda alone in this view, even the other positive reviews I've seen kinda amount to "yeah it's good" but with more words, and it feels like other people will briefly mention something like "it's a generic isekai" and then rag on it for other things.

Am I crazy or what, this is like the one manga/anime opinion that I feel like is completely unique to me, usually I fall really in line with popular opinions.
Patatitta
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I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose from


there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it

I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance

I think that isekai as a genre can host good anime, in fact, sonny boy can be legally considered an isekai and that anime is fucking crazy, but it just doesnt really a critical volume of works like that to really escape the criticism of the genre
DM FOR MUTUAL
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Patatitta wrote:

I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose from
like what though, i would like to read

Patatitta wrote:

there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it
It was interesting to me, and because it's not finished and this feels like such a big underpinning idea I assume they'll go somewhere with this

Patatitta wrote:

I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
It felt subversive to me so yeah 👍
Well not entirely, but within the bounds of super generic isekai tropes if that makes sense, like it does all the tropes but in a fresh, interesting way that feels subversive because of the way they're explored in a grounded manner. Maybe what's actually feels subversive to me is this grounded/realistic perspective compared to how isekai generally present themselves, idk if I'm explaining it well.
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Also can I request RRR (indian movie)
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Patatitta
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I don't agree with your point, I think that if you're lookine for an isekai which objective is to be fun and nothing more you lave a lot better options to choose from
like what though, i would like to read

Patatitta wrote:

there are a few more scenes that try to tell something yeah, like that one you mentioned with the magic system, but I don't think it does a very good job at that, you craete the implications that part of the world was basically modeled by their own memories and life experiences, something that could carry the entire plot by it's own, yet, it's never really explored, it's mentioned but they never do anything interesting with it
It was interesting to me, and because it's not finished and this feels like such a big underpinning idea I assume they'll go somewhere with this

Patatitta wrote:

I don't think this manga is subverting anything, it doesnt take advantage of you believing the manga is going to fall into certain tropes to then fuck you over, as it just does end up falling into all of thise tropes without much nuance
It felt subversive to me so yeah 👍
Well not entirely, but within the bounds of super generic isekai tropes if that makes sense, like it does all the tropes but in a fresh, interesting way that feels subversive because of the way they're explored in a grounded manner. Maybe what's actually feels subversive to me is this grounded/realistic perspective compared to how isekai generally present themselves, idk if I'm explaining it well.

idk, I haven't really seen much isekai that i've enjoyed, but I guess reincarnated as a slime was nice, one of the first animes I watched

also yeah I get what you mean by subverting which is more like keeping the same old things fresh, but it's not personally my definition of subvertion, as an example of something I would call subvertion, currently i'm playing a videogame called "in stars and time". That game, has a core gameplay mechanic that basically every RPG has that while you stop and think about it is a plot hole, however, you ignore it since that is just how RPG games go, and then, like 15 hours into the game, that "plot hole" actually turns into a real plot point, which totally blew me away

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Also can I request RRR (indian movie)
also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
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Patatitta wrote:

idk, I haven't really seen much isekai that i've enjoyed, but I guess reincarnated as a slime was nice, one of the first animes I watched
Honestly I can see the fact that I've read and enjoyed so many shitty isekai a big reason why I enjoyed this



Patatitta wrote:

also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess B

I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess B

I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D

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RRR

I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.

RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen

The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.

Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD

I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it

So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.

In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.

I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad

but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun

so yeah, RRR is an S tier

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still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
DM FOR MUTUAL
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Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess B

I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D

---------------------

RRR

I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.

RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen

The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.

Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD

I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it

So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.

In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.

I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad

but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun

so yeah, RRR is an S tier

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still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
Holy based, my respect for you has peaked

I literally pogged for 3 hours straight while watching this movie, but it's not an S for me, probably an A (same with Thank You Isekai)

Though I barely ever watch movies (rn I properly watch maybe 3-4 a year kinda incidentally) though so I don't really have a good idea of what I like and what I don't in movies.

I honestly thought that you wouldn't be that high on the action after total recall in D and that'd make it not S tier but I guess I was wrong
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, just for fun, what rating do you think I will give RRR?
It's a lot harder to say but I'm gonna guess B

I'm pretty sure it's at least not going to be S or D

---------------------

RRR

I have already seen it, it's peak fiction, you chose wrong.

RRR is an indian action movie, and I would argue it's my favourite action thing i've ever seen, while more american movies and stuff still try to be somewhat serious and grounded about their action, RRR just goes NUTS and it was way more enjoyable and fun and memorable than any other action film i've seen

The actual plot and story of RRR doesn't make much sense, it's over dramaticized version of a real historical period in india, and in fact, it has A LOT of historical inaccuracies, for xample, the two main protagonists, bheem and raju NEVER met IRL, but that's not the point of the movie. The movie only takes that setting because it fits, it has a lot of conflict and it gives them the creative freedom to do whatever they want in a setting familiar to the public, the point of RRR is to be a fun movie, and there are barely any other pieces of media that are as fun as RRR.

Every scene is the most shocking thing you've probably seen in a movie, but not in a gross way like if you're reading eroguro or something, the movie just goes deeper into over the top action than any other movie on eart. The shock comes from "I can't believe this is a real scene", like, the introduction of bheem is an aereal shot of the character in a jungle pouring blood on themselves just before getting into a fight with a tiger, like, that is NOT something that usually happens in movies, or that AMAZING dance scene that just comes out from nowhere and it's SO GOOD

I generally don't like action, I feel it's just kinda fluff that doesn't trigger any emotional response from me and doesn't really advance or improve anything that I do enjoy, however, RRR felt so surprising that I just couldn't help but be totally hooked on it

So, why has no american movie or any other movie dared to do what RRR does?, I believe that this is in part due to the way we interact with cinema here.

In american movies, often action is seen as one of the genres with most prestige, one of the most adult and serious ones, at the end of the day people die in the film, that is something that had to be censored in the past for being too explicit and not appropiate for audiences.

I don't think this holds up today tho, most action films are targeted to younger audiences even if they want to claim otherwise, even msot children shows have some sort of action since it's one of the most engaging genres, yet, due to us still seeing action as this "prestige" genre we can't really get too crazy about it, if a action movie is just mindless action and isn't grounded we consider it to be bad

but india?, we've been discriminating against indian cinema for ages now, they developed another culture, they don't have the same ideas around action that we do, so, they pushed it in another direction, and it just so happens that they were able to produce a movie so out there that even we couldn't ignore, and, yeah, it's fun

so yeah, RRR is an S tier

----

still playing gta, still watching akagi, may not be able to finish it today
Holy based, my respect for you has peaked

I literally pogged for 3 hours straight while watching this movie, but it's not an S for me, probably an A (same with Thank You Isekai)

Though I barely ever watch movies (rn I properly watch maybe 3-4 a year kinda incidentally) though so I don't really have a good idea of what I like and what I don't in movies.

I honestly thought that you wouldn't be that high on the action after total recall in D and that'd make it not S tier but I guess I was wrong
total recall isn't particullary original or memorable, RRR is
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Akagi

I didn't enjoy it very much

This is an anime about mahjong, and only about mahjong. In many ways, you can make parallelisms between akagi and hajime no ippo, they're both hyper long mangas (the adaptations being way shorter), that cover a certain sport or activity and is focused ENTIRERILY on that

For most sport animes, understanding and liking the sport is not really needed in order to enjoy the anime, why?, because the main appeal of the anime isn't the sport by itself, but more the characters surrounding it and the overall situation of the anime, you watch haikyuu because you like the characters, not because of volleyball, you like 3-gatsu no lion because of the drama, not the shogi

However, for akagi and hajime no ippo, it's really hard to actually get into it if you don't like the sport beforehand, the main appeal of this anime is "look at that sick ass play", but I don't know, I am not into mahjong enough for this anime to really pull me in

The animation style is interesting, as it doesn't have what we would consider now an "anime" style of character design. This is because this anime takes inspiration directly from the way Osamu Tezuka did art, who, took inspiration of european comics, so, the actual shape of the faces and stuff are more cartoonish

also, I don't think mahjong is that good of an spectator game, as it's basically japenese poker. It's a gambling game, so whenever they go "wow that play is so crazy he's so smart" I kinda feel conflicted, because it's all luck a the end of the day, and I don't really like the idea that you can climb up high with a gambling game entirerily on skill.

Not only that, but the actual matches aren't very cool to watch either, at least with boxing they're punching each other, you may not know a lot of boxing rules or techniques or whatever but you can see people punching each other, for mahjonh, the rules are a lot more complex and if you don't know how the rules operates, it's really hard to follow the matches and it will just seem like random stuff is happening

so yeah, did not like, D tier

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next: Nightmare on elm street
still playing GTA IV, close to finishing tho
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Lapizote
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could you add The Menu to the queue
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Lapizote wrote:

could you add The Menu to the queue
sure
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watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
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reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
no way is there an international release already?

i've gone crazy trying to find where to watch it
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reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
idk, already did the manga, I don't think it's very different, + It's not for distribution here yet and I don't think I can find it online anywhere
DM FOR MUTUAL
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Can you read this sports article called What football will look like in the future, I swear it's actually interesting

It's about American Football, so if you have no clue how it works here's a 1 minute long video explaining the rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6hM5tRlfA

If you want of what American Football is maybe you can watch some full game highlights, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb_lnAvZSa4 this just some random game that came up on youtube, or maybe you could look up what all the positions are or something

I won't have much to say about this because I read it years ago and don't remember it well but I remember it was interesting
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you can decline this one if you want, but can you play portal?
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DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Can you read this sports article called What football will look like in the future, I swear it's actually interesting

It's about American Football, so if you have no clue how it works here's a 1 minute long video explaining the rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6hM5tRlfA

If you want of what American Football is maybe you can watch some full game highlights, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb_lnAvZSa4 this just some random game that came up on youtube, or maybe you could look up what all the positions are or something

I won't have much to say about this because I read it years ago and don't remember it well but I remember it was interesting
damn, I finally have a excuse to read 17776, will do


lostsilver wrote:

you can decline this one if you want, but can you play portal?
portal 1 or 2?
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DM FOR MUTUAL

Patatitta wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

Can you read this sports article called What football will look like in the future, I swear it's actually interesting

It's about American Football, so if you have no clue how it works here's a 1 minute long video explaining the rules https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t6hM5tRlfA

If you want of what American Football is maybe you can watch some full game highlights, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb_lnAvZSa4 this just some random game that came up on youtube, or maybe you could look up what all the positions are or something

I won't have much to say about this because I read it years ago and don't remember it well but I remember it was interesting
damn, I finally have a excuse to read 17776, will do
oh shit you already know about it wtf
reffty_gag
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Lapizote wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
no way is there an international release already?

i've gone crazy trying to find where to watch it
idk but it release in my country

And pata, just read the manga
Patatitta
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reffty_gag wrote:

Lapizote wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
no way is there an international release already?

i've gone crazy trying to find where to watch it
idk but it release in my country

And pata, just read the manga
the movie is not out there for digital distribution, and no way i'm spending money and actually going to the movie theater for a OT thread, the manga is already reviewed in this thread, I told you, look at the OP
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Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Lapizote wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

watch "Look Back" (2024), its an anime movie
no way is there an international release already?

i've gone crazy trying to find where to watch it
idk but it release in my country

And pata, just read the manga
the movie is not out there for digital distribution, and no way i'm spending money and actually going to the movie theater for a OT thread, the manga is already reviewed in this thread, I told you, look at the OP
k
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Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

you can decline this one if you want, but can you play portal?
portal 1 or 2?
portal 1 :)
Patatitta
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lostsilver wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

you can decline this one if you want, but can you play portal?
portal 1 or 2?
portal 1 :)
only played 2, will have to play it
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Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

you can decline this one if you want, but can you play portal?
portal 1 or 2?
portal 1 :)
only played 2, will have to play it
okay :>
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Nightmare On Elm Street:

eh

This is a slasher movie, for reference, the only slasher movies i've seen are the winnie the pooh blood and honey ones and god did they fucking suck ASS, and this was considerably better, but it's still mid

I see one very clear objective in this movie, this is a movie that you put in a sleepover, and then kinda shit yourself over it, even after the movie ends, this is probably a really good group watching experience if you have the right social circle, but personally, watching it alone in my room while i'm just chilling, I didn't really find it to be scary or too interesting

aAlot of the horror feels very cheap in general, people die but you don't really ever care too much about those characters dying, it's predictible, a lot of it kinda relies on jumpscares rather than the atmosphere or whatever, it's not the most interesting movie

but, again, I will give it credit, I think the idea of freddy krueger is very good, a evil psychopath killer that will attack you in your dreams, what this basically accomplishes is that after you've finished watching the movie, maybe late at night (which is the normal time to watch horror movies), and you decide to go to sleep, maybe with your friends, you have a fear of freddy krueger actaully showing up, the movie never really actually kills freddy krueger, this isn't a spoiler as there are sequels, so it's pretty effective at that

so yeah, this isn't my cup of tea, but I can see it's appeal

however, this list is based on my personal watching experience, so D rank, (if not, I would probably rank this is C-B tier?)

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next: The menu

i'm literally in the last quest of GTA IV, so expect it soon
reading 17776, idk how deep in am I, so far, I have some thoughts about it

edit: tiermaker seems to be shitting itself for some weird reason so no tier list image update
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The Menu

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Started being pretty good, had a pretty bad finale

The menu is a movie about a bunch of rich people going to an island to eat gourmet food, however, the cook has become a psychopath and people just start dying and shit

I think the idea of the movie is good, it just kinda fumbles the execution quite a bit. In this movie, the chef doesn't really see cooking as much as a survival skill, and more of an art form, so their goal isn't really to feed the clients but to try to send a message, this is fine, cooking can be an art form, although, the rich people present there are all very, very mean, and act in a very pseudointellectual way.

The best example of this is a a plate that is "bread without bread", previous to the food, this is the second plate of the movie, previous to serving the bread, the cook talks about how bread is the food of the common men, however, they were not common men, they were high class citizens, so, they will not be recieving any bread. They just serve the condiments that they would have served with the bread. The point of this plate is very obvious, it's just a commentary on that, the class divide, and if you see cooking as an artistic medium, this plate makes a lot of sense, in fact, if you want to tell a story with your menu, you can probably chain it after with a lot of plates and for that to make sense

Maybe, by depriving the next plates of any bread, you can show the importance of bread in those foods and how much we look down on it by thinking of it as the poor men food. The food isn't supposed to be the best food ever, that's the point. But all of this is for nothing really, as this point completely flies over their head and they start complaining that the condiments aren't as cooked as perfectly as they could have been

This is a really good plot point, I really dig this, it shows the disconnect between the chef and the customers, and ow different social groups reacts differently to the same menu or even ideas, my problem with the movie arises that this isn't expanded upon, every plate has some interesting idea like that. They even make targetted attacks to specific customers, but, for every plate where they make something interesting, the next plate doesn't really seem to follow or expand on those ideas, a lot of thigns are brought up, a lot of the backstory of every character, but all of it is irrelevant, nothing is really expanded upon

In fact, it mostly ends up relying on cheap shock stuff to keep being interesting, on people randomly dying and it's just kinda boring, this is a movie that doesn't really go anywhere, that doesn't end up saying anything, because the ending of the movie kinda goes contrary to a lot of the ideas shown

The end of the movie is the protagonist going like "you're a chef, your objective in life is to serve people food that they will enjoy it, food is just food, and i'm hungry and I want a god damn cheeseburger!!!", so, the chef cooks them the most mcdonalds looking cheeseburger and is let go of the island

I do not like this ending, I don't like that the point of the movie is "just is just food and that was a evil pyschopath so ignore anything they have ever said", like, yeah, the guy is twisted mentally, killing people is bad, but while I don't agree with their methods, isn't he kinda right on those customers being assholes? so why are you trying to undervalue the element of the movie that showed that they were assholes????

It's just a very messy movie overall, I didn't like it much, placed on D rank if tiermaker worked lmao I basically killed the site i'm waiting for a response to my support email

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still have to finish GTA IV, haven't played since the last post
still readding 17776
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GTA IV

I'm very dissapointed

This is the first time i've ever played any GTA game, which is surprising since it's one of the most popular videogame franchises in the world, I knew kinda how it operated and what it was about, but never actually played it, so now that i've played, I don't think it's a very good videogame

First of all, the GTA IV PC port fucking sucks, The 100% legal download I took for this game already included a modpack that supposedly fixed most of the bugs, but even with that, I've still faced crashes, graphical issues, and i've clipped through the floor once, all of these things have made me have to restart the mission. Although, it's still playable, annoying, but playable,

GTA IV has a plot, it's about this russian immigrant that goes to the united states and tries to pursue the american dream with their cousin by doing all sorts of illegal activities. The start of the story is actually not bad, the first 5-6 missions or so, but after that, the games open up and problems really start to show up

There are A LOT of quests in GTA IV, and, you can kinda pursue any storyline that you want in any order in any moment, this sounds great in theory, but in the practice, that just means a super important plot point happens and then it's not acknowledged for 10 quests because the other quests you have pending to do were available before you even got that quest with the important plot point, so you kinda go back in time when you do a lot of the quests, there isn't really a clear chronological order in most of the quests

there isn't a pacing with the story, so it just feels bad, the story kinda did lose me halfway through because in order to actually keep pursuing it I had to do all of these other missions from secondary characters I just didn't care much about

The story itself also has a lot of problems, a lot of plot holes in fact, this is something that applies to more videogames but I find especially frustrating in this game, and that is, death only matters if it happens in a cinematic. There is a part at the start of the game where you kill someone who in the grand scheme of things is just a crook, but, you now have to face the consequences of having killed them, the loan sharks that guy had are now going to seek you, which makes sense. What doesn't make sense is the rest of the game, and that is, even in story missions you kill hundreds and hundreds of people with gang affiliations and other stuff, where are the consequences for that?, the only kills that end up mattering are the ones that happen in a cinematic

The game is also very contrived in order to make the game work, for example, in a lot of story missions the game won't spawn police, is the police not showing up when it normally would not a plot hole?, when you're on a mission and you're chasing a car, that car doesn't follow the same rules yours do, it has different collisions, in fact, a lot of NPC on vehicles are completely immortal unless you reach a certain point in the route. Shooting a enemy, them not dying, shooting them again but in a different point in a road and dying, isn't that a plot hole?, there a clear disconnect from the gameplay and the story, they feel made by two entirely different dev teams

But I mean, if you're playing GTA, you're not really doing it for the story most of the time, GTA is a power fantasy, you run around, kill people, steal cars, create chaos, etc. I don't think they pull this off either.

Most time in GTA, you're going to be inside of a car or a vehicle, in fact, the game doesn't really have an OST in the general sense, but radios you can turn on and switch while on the car, the ideal scenario is that you're escaping from all these cops, maybe shooting back, doing all of these cool tricks, with the song you like playing, it's supposed to make you feel badass and unstoppable, you're supposed to feel like baby driver

but sadly, the mechanics just doesn't really allow for any of that to happen, the car controls feel like you're drunk, the drift is basically useless, the ideal way to deal to police is to NOT shoot back, so if you can avoid fighting with cops at all, you take that chance, even if you have a helicopter chasing you, do not shoot back.

The way you escape from police is to get out of their vision range and then just wait 5 seconds, idk, waiting still hoping that RNG wont spawn a police car in my face is not the coolest way to escape from police?, it's very boring

This game is not polished at all, even if you exclude all the bugs, a lot of things in this game seem to have been made without much care at all. Again, immortal NPC, enemies having different laws of physics, very clear rubberbanding, loading screens while changing clothes without a menu to choose directly what you want to wear (like come on, at least give me a way to save outfits).

There is actually one part of the game that really annoyed me, and it comes down to a lack of polish. There are two or three points on the game where the story mandates you use a helicopter, this is fine, in the tutorial that shows up when you first mount an helicopter you can either use WASD or the numeric keyboard to control the helicopter, I decided to use the numeric keyboard since it was easier for me. I reach the last mission and it gives me a helicopter, but this helicopter isn't like the ones you've piloted before, this one has weapons, and you shoot your weapons with left click. Can you see the problem?, i've been controlling helicopters with my right hand on the numeric keyboard, and you're now expecting me to put my right hand on the mouse, it's impossible, you MUST use WASD to fly the helicopter, so in the time I need to get used to the WASD controls, the enemy flies away and I have to restart the entire mission once again. That death did not feel fair at all.

So yeah, the story did not engage me, there were bugs and a lack of polish, it did not live up as a power fantasy, haven't even mentioned it in the post but I feel al ot of the minigames are a bit mid, so yeah, this game sucks.

Placed in D tier. Or at least would, tiermaker still does not work.

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next: artic eggs
still reading 17776
reffty_gag
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play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
Patatitta
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reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
sametdze
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Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
you act like every horror game is going to scare you to the point where you'll have a heart attack and die
Patatitta
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sametdze wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
you act like every horror game is going to scare you to the point where you'll have a heart attack and die
I mean, I'm already trying out so many different things already with this thread, at least let me create some limits based on personal enjoyement lmao
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nah horror is usually shit isn't it
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sametdze

Patatitta wrote:

sametdze wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
you act like every horror game is going to scare you to the point where you'll have a heart attack and die
I mean, I'm already trying out so many different things already with this thread, at least let me create some limits based on personal enjoyement lmao
fair


Ymir wrote:

nah horror is usually shit isn't it
this too
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Ymir wrote:

nah horror is usually shit isn't it
i've heard Hello Charlotte is pretty good, I just dont want to deal with it
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Never heard of it until now; I just assume horror game = shitty 'horror for kids' game-theory shill game
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Ymir wrote:

Never heard of it until now; I just assume horror game = shitty 'horror for kids' game-theory shill game
nah this is actually horror, I heard it's inspired by games like off or space funeral, just maybe darker in theme and a bit edgier
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Patatitta wrote:

Ymir wrote:

nah horror is usually shit isn't it
i've heard Hello Charlotte is pretty good, I just dont want to deal with it
haha pussy little pussy twink pussy little femboy bottom
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reffty_gag
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Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
meanwhile played omori and yume nikki that has a "horror" element in it (and also its psychological horror)

its ok if you don't want to play this game, i don't want to arguing to ppl for no reason
Patatitta
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reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

play "Hello Charlotte" trilogy
I don't like horror
meanwhile played omori and yume nikki that has a "horror" element in it (and also its psychological horror)

its ok if you don't want to play this game, i don't want to arguing to ppl for no reason
omori was an exception as I had already played it previous to this thread, also, yeah, I don't really like the horror experience too much, yume nikki I already knew in perfectly what it was and I knew what I was getting into, for a game like this one, I know my brothers likes it, and that's enough justification for me not to play it.
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17776

the ending was a jumpscare I really didn't expect it to end, like, I yesterday I had bookmarked my pogress, today I go in, click the next page, it's the end, I could have done this post yesterday

17776 is weird, it's presented in the form of an article about american football than then once you click on it, it becomes a web novel, or as a wikipedia describes it a "speculative fiction multimedia narrative", it's about a world that solves all of it's problems (war, hunger, aging, death, etc) and they are bored so they just play american football 24/7, but not the american football we know today, but some weird evolved versions of it

I didn't like it very much, it feels VERY contrived. The protagonists are three satelites, who have gained conciousness and they just catch streams of american football. Thing is, the world has not evolved. It's exactly the same as it was a few years back when the article released, so yes, it's already outdated

The satellites never really seem to have interest to what is outside the united states, as that is still the only place in the world where they play american football, they never ask about any sports, they ask some questions about why the world is like it is, but some of the answers are more than insatisfactory and it just feels the writer trying to ignore the awful worldbuilding just to get to talk about football, like, at a point in history they ask "why is it still the same as in 2017" and they go "oh yeah humanity developed technology it's just that they didn't like it very much so they reverted back to now" which is just a fucking absurd preposition

also, we're assuming that in the year 17776, when we have solved all of our problems, the same nations will still exist today, with the same frontiers. In fact, the concept that nations still exist at al is already a point of discussion

it's not that technology hasn't evolved, it's that culture hasn't evolved either, they even make some pop culture references and it's just tv shows released in 2012

if we brush aside all the world-building concerns and hold our disbelief, the actual strong point of the webseries, isn't very strong at all. The idea is that given that no one is ever going to die, they play games with wack rules, often lasting hundreds or thousands of years I don't really get this.

Living forever doesn't mean that everyone will abandon their desires, not everyone will become a monk that can last years without any sort of stimuli, living forever doesn't mean you will want to play the same match for hundreds of years without interruption.

Another point that this webnovels kinda forgets is the competitive elements, american football, is a competitive sport, yet, we never really see how the future of competition will look like, none of these games are part of a larger league or really have any sort of competitive element attached to it other than just winning the match itself

also, these really aren't american football games, as I said previously, they have wack rules, maybe in one match the stadium is a entire state or two, maybe it's not even football and it's just the lotery (that happened), so i'm impressed that when they're playing an entirerily different videogame they still call it american football.

Also, as wikipedia said before, this is multimedia, but in that context it just means that they have youtube videos that just show more text but this time you cant read it at your own pace, not even a robotic TTS voice, it's just text with maybe a image or two

I don't know, this just feel like highly contrived random bullshit that makes no sense anyways, D tier.
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ok, play "To The Moon" (2011)
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play banzo: marks of slavery
is cool little indie game about like brazilian slavery or whatever (is strategy, but at a base level)
would say its only a couple hours long really
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reffty_gag wrote:

ok, play "To The Moon" (2011)
I already planned to paly it anyways, so this is good


Duck o-o wrote:

play banzo: b
is cool little indie game about like brazilian slavery or whatever (is strategy, but at a base level)
would say its only a couple hours long really
sure, this would also be the first time I spend money on tis thread, but given it's just 2€, I can afford that, it's not a big deal
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have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
Patatitta
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Reyalp51 wrote:

have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
haven't watched it, I don't think I will like it tho
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Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
haven't watched it, I don't think I will like it tho
yeah ik, have to recomend you things quick before you go to school and this thread dies, also im interested what your twink ass thinks of peak male performance
Patatitta
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Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
haven't watched it, I don't think I will like it tho
yeah ik, have to recomend you things quick before you go to school and this thread dies, also im interested what your twink ass thinks of peak male performance
should I watch the modern baki anime or the old baki animes
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Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
haven't watched it, I don't think I will like it tho
yeah ik, have to recomend you things quick before you go to school and this thread dies, also im interested what your twink ass thinks of peak male performance
should I watch the modern baki anime or the old baki animes
well i told you to start with baki the grappler wich is the old one, if you watch it out of order you will be even more bored
Patatitta
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Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

have you watched baki the grappler?
dont hate me too much for making watch fights uwu
haven't watched it, I don't think I will like it tho
yeah ik, have to recomend you things quick before you go to school and this thread dies, also im interested what your twink ass thinks of peak male performance
should I watch the modern baki anime or the old baki animes
well i told you to start with baki the grappler wich is the old one, if you watch it out of order you will be even more bored
ok, the only thing I know is that the 2nd season of the original baki anime was directed by the same guy who did boku no pico
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Watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie
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Asian Warlord wrote:

Watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie
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Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie
I would have to see the previous deadpools to, I haven't seen them
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Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie
I would have to see the previous deadpools to, I haven't seen them
You should watch (and eventually review them too) the 2 previous Deadpool movies (I don't thinking it's mandatory but it's worth it)

Also watch Wolverine's movie "Logan" otherwise you may not understand well the story Deadpool x Wolverine movie
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Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Asian Warlord wrote:

Watch the new Deadpool and Wolverine movie
I would have to see the previous deadpools to, I haven't seen them
You should watch (and eventually review them too) the 2 previous Deadpool movies (I don't thinking it's mandatory but it's worth it)

Also watch Wolverine's movie "Logan" otherwise you may not understand well the story Deadpool x Wolverine movie
I don't like superheros and this looks like a lot of effort
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Arctic eggs

Fun game

Arctic eggs is a really short and sweet game about frying eggs and other stuff. You're in the future, in the middle of the arctic, and you need to go around the place frying eggs for hungry people. The gameplay is pretty fun

I think this game handles difficulty very well, the actual act of frying an egg is fairly challenging, good control over the pan to actually flip the egg, and every new ingredient they add is more and more difficult, however, the game is never frustrating, as failing a challenge never really means anything bad, if you drop an egg to the floor, another one just appears and you're right back, the cooking sessions are always so short that you're never really losing progress either

Over the course of the game you get pretty good at frying at egg, so they add more ingredients, but, the actual skill needed for frying an egg translates very well to all other ingredients. I'm pretty sure that if this game went on for long enough, you would be pretty good at actually sightreading new foods.

the game actually has a really charming graphical art-style, having this low poly/pixelated 3D which actually looks really good and is fairly unique.

But honestly, what I like most about this videogame is how this game uses comedy, I feel there aren't a lot of games that are meant to be funny or anything along those lines, in fact, the most games like this are ones where the funniest part is the interaction between players, very few games that are single player have comeedy, and I think it's a shame, because it works really well here. We need more funny videogames, and this is a step in the right direction.

This game doesn't really have a big scope but that's fine, it isn't trying to be peak or whatever, it's just trying to be a fun little experience. Still, I feel this game that has really good fundamentals, really good ideas, and I honestly wish to see a videogame like this one, but that tries to actually be peak. (Note: This doesn't mean a longer videogame, jsut one that leaves a bigger impression on the player, because honestly, I don't really see myself thinking about arctic eggs in a year or two from now on, but again, this isn't a flaw since it wasn't the goal to begin with.)

My only problem with this videogame, and honestly, a fairly big one, is that this game caused me phisical pain, like, the acutal very small, repetitive movements you had to do to cook the eggs were causing my arm and hand to really tense up, and after a while, it would really start feeling very uncomfortable and to even hurt, so, I couldn't really play this game for more than 25 minutes in a row, which is a shame, because I do think this game is really good.

So yeah fun little game, weighted down by the fact that playing this game would probably be risking an injury lmao

placed in B tier, but given that tiermaker hasn't really helped me I'm going to probably just redo the tierlist, more work for me T-T

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next: portal 1
have not started baki
sametdze
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sametdze
sometimes i feel bad for patatitta when he has to do all of this work
Patatitta
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Patatitta
finally finished redoing the tier list
reffty_gag
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reffty_gag

Patatitta wrote:

finally finished redoing the tier list
Yipeeeew
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen
(No) se cayó el portón
Patatitta
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Patatitta
Portal 1

Sweet little game, probably the best valve franchise IMO

I have completed portal 2 in the past, but I had never played portal 1, this game is a bit worse than portal 2 since it has less of a scope and it's overall less amitious, but, it's still a really good videogame

Portal 1 only has one goal and that is to be fun, all of the puzzles are pretty easy, you're not really get stumped on any of them, but it's still satisfactory to go through the motions and solve them, glados is a very unique character and they're very funny, which again, we need more videogames that go full on comedy, so well done

It's a game that doesn't have any rough edges, which is very impressive considering it's a puzzle game, where it's very easy to have tunnel vision on something and just get frustrated, it's all very seemless, nothing operates in a way that you think is wrong or not intuitive, this game really is the contrary to a game like fear and hunger, where it just doesn't show any adversion torwards the player, I feel in many ways this game is even more forgiving than stardew valley given the quicksaves you can do or whatever. This isn't necessarily a good thing tho, a lot of games do use adversion to psuh a certain idea or feeling, but portal just tries to be fun, it's like a mario game, and I respect that

Unlike portal 2, this doesn't really have a plot, which is fine

Compared to other valve games, I think portal 1 and 2 really stands out by the fact they're not really gimmicks, all of valve games in a way feel like tech demos, flexing their source engine or steam integration, half life was full of physhics puzzles just to show the power of source, portal, surprisingly, doesn't have that type of puzzles, they didn't really go overboared with the steam achivements, it's actually just a regualr game

The game is very short for videogame standards, I have been able to beat it just a little bit under 2 hours, I like this length, I feel a lot of games, mainly JRPG, go really overboad with the length, when there is a pretty big space for short games like this one

placed on A tier

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next: To The Moon (Game) (Requested by reffty_gag)
have not started baki, will probaly start soon-ish tho
Patatitta
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Patatitta
OH TIERMAKER BROKE AGAIN FUCK YOU TOO

time to just pull up photoshop I guess, i'm not dealing with this
sametdze
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sametdze
do gmod campaign maps count as "games"
Patatitta
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Patatitta

sametdze wrote:

do gmod campaign maps count as "games"
really does depends on the specifics, I would generally say no, but there may be some exceptions
lostsilver
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good to know you enjoyed portal!! :)
Patatitta
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To The Moon

this game was not about cryptocurrency 0/10

ok, but actually, this game is peak. To the moon is a RPGmaker videogame about two doctors exploring the memories of someone who is on the verge of death in order to help them achieve an unfulfilled dream.

There is a lot to unpack in this game, first of all, the actual story, at a more broad level, is really, really good, this is a game that is supposed to be emotional and thought provoking, and it really nails that, the actual dynamic of the two doctors makes a great counterpart to the old man and their wife. They feel very human in a way, yes, what we may be seeing may be pretty tough for us, but not really for them, it's their job, so they still crack some jokes here and there, it's only when things start to get heavy that we see a shift in their character, which is what causes most of the drama and conflict of the videogame.

The story takes place in a contemporary society, yes, they have MP8 and the ability to travel through memories and alter them, but the actual society is like it was 10 years back, this is actually vital to the story, as the actual game wouldn't work very well in a futuristic setting

And that is, because the wife, river, is autistic, and a lot of the game is about autism, how it manifests in different people, the actual way people respond to autism in modern society, and the toll it takes on the person.

John (the husband), comes from a very normal, middle class american family, that means that they never really had the experience of living in a community that is pretty homogenous, while river is an outcast that percieves the world very differently, so, at the start, the interactions between john and river were messy, john didn't really understand her at all, john didn't even know people like river existed, and river didn't understand that a situation was awkward or whatever.

Thing is, river wasn't diagnosed with autism until much later in life. This is a bit of a problem, since because of the way she percieved the world, she never really understood social norms, and since she really couldn't express what she was feeling as she thought it was normal, no one really explained it to her like my family and school had to do for me as an example.

When the diagnosis happened, john kinda rejected the idea of it, he never really seem to accept it, in fact, he didn't really seem to try to understand river, which leds to a very sad story later in life

Now, moving to meta elements, I REALLY like how the way autism is actually described in the game, as, the actual term, "autism", isn't ever explicitely mentioned once. If you're like john, you can finish to the moon and not realize river was autistic.

The only real confirmation we have is a dialogue where a secondary characters refeers to john as "Not neurodivergent", implying river is. Thing is, this game released in 2011, the term neurodivergent wasn't really in the public conciousness just yet, someone like john wouldn't notice the game is actually about autism, which is a good thing, since there would likely a lot of controversy and drama if it had been blatant. Only people who would be accepting of the game message would really understand it, it's a like a secret handshake or ritual, people who were autistic would feel seen and accepted and loved, while people who would find it problematic wouldn't make a fuss about it.

Games like this are good for normalizing things that in our current society may be controversial, in fact, a lot of the advances we have made as a society in recent history regard to many topics like this one have been able to flourish thanks to works of art like this one

But this game wasn't only problematic or polemic just for that, remember, this is 2011, and this is a indie RPGmaker game about pretty heavy topics. Remember what online discussion was very active during that period of time?, if videogames were art or not.

This game is a prime example of videogames as art, but again, you kinda had to ease that in. Indie prestige games weren't really a accepted game genre back then, so they kinda had to disguise this

While this is an RPGmaker game, it made SURE you wouldn't notice, they changed the menus, the control screen, what some sprites do on screen, they didn't want you to notice it was an RPGmaker game, because RPGmaker games were often seen as low quality, kinda like how unity was seen not so long ago.

The sprites have a lot more pixels and resolution than most pixel art games you will find today, which in fact, kinda does make the game look worse, but that's not the point, the game had to look professional. If it was released today with more simplistic graphics and more standard RPGmaker controls and UI it would probably be a better videogame, but masking it that way definitively helped the videogame.

Also, I find it poetic that a game about autism and how it's often looked down upon and missunderstood in society has to mask the fact that it is about autism and that it's art and that it's made on rpgmaker, because it too would be looked down upon and missunderstood in society.

S rank, no questions asked, this game actually has two sequels, will play them, idk if I will analyze them or not, depends on if someone requests it.

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next: Banzo - Marks of Slavery
i'm nearly done with baki
Reyalp51
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Reyalp51
was a kid when sis played to the moon cool game
Achromalia
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Achromalia

Patatitta wrote:

To The Moon

this game was not about cryptocurrency 0/10

ok, but actually, this game is peak.

To the moon is a RPGmaker videogame about two doctors exploring the memories of someone who is on the verge of death in order to help them achieve an unfulfilled dream.

There is a lot to unpack in this game, first of all, the actual story, at a more broad level, is really, really good, this is a game that is supposed to be emotional and thought provoking, and it really nails that, the actual dynamic of the two doctors makes a great counterpart to the old man and their wife. They feel very human in a way, yes, what we may be seeing may be pretty tough for us, but not really for them, it's their job, so they still crack some jokes here and there, it's only when things start to get heavy that we see a shift in their character, which is what causes most of the drama and conflict of the videogame.

The story takes place in a contemporary society, yes, they have MP8 and the ability to travel through memories and alter them, but the actual society is like it was 10 years back, this is actually vital to the story, as the actual game wouldn't work very well in a futuristic setting

And that is, because the wife, river, is autistic, and a lot of the game is about autism, how it manifests in different people, the actual way people respond to autism in modern society, and the toll it takes on the person.

John (the husband), comes from a very normal, middle class american family, that means that they never really had the experience of living in a community that is pretty homogenous, while river is an outcast that percieves the world very differently, so, at the start, the interactions between john and river were messy, john didn't really understand her at all, john didn't even know people like river existed, and river didn't understand that a situation was awkward or whatever.

Thing is, river wasn't diagnosed with autism until much later in life. This is a bit of a problem, since because of the way she percieved the world, she never really understood social norms, and since she really couldn't express what she was feeling as she thought it was normal, no one really explained it to her like my family and school had to do for me as an example.

When the diagnosis happened, john kinda rejected the idea of it, he never really seem to accept it, in fact, he didn't really seem to try to understand river, which leds to a very sad story later in life

Now, moving to meta elements, I REALLY like how the way autism is actually described in the game, as, the actual term, "autism", isn't ever explicitely mentioned once. If you're like john, you can finish to the moon and not realize river was autistic.

The only real confirmation we have is a dialogue where a secondary characters refeers to john as "Not neurodivergent", implying river is. Thing is, this game released in 2011, the term neurodivergent wasn't really in the public conciousness just yet, someone like john wouldn't notice the game is actually about autism, which is a good thing, since there would likely a lot of controversy and drama if it had been blatant. Only people who would be accepting of the game message would really understand it, it's a like a secret handshake or ritual, people who were autistic would feel seen and accepted and loved, while people who would find it problematic wouldn't make a fuss about it.

Games like this are good for normalizing things that in our current society may be controversial, in fact, a lot of the advances we have made as a society in recent history regard to many topics like this one have been able to flourish thanks to works of art like this one

But this game wasn't only problematic or polemic just for that, remember, this is 2011, and this is a indie RPGmaker game about pretty heavy topics. Remember what online discussion was very active during that period of time?, if videogames were art or not.

This game is a prime example of videogames as art, but again, you kinda had to ease that in. Indie prestige games weren't really a accepted game genre back then, so they kinda had to disguise this

While this is an RPGmaker game, it made SURE you wouldn't notice, they changed the menus, the control screen, what some sprites do on screen, they didn't want you to notice it was an RPGmaker game, because RPGmaker games were often seen as low quality, kinda like how unity was seen not so long ago.

The sprites have a lot more pixels and resolution than most pixel art games you will find today, which in fact, kinda does make the game look worse, but that's not the point, the game had to look professional. If it was released today with more simplistic graphics and more standard RPGmaker controls and UI it would probably be a better videogame, but masking it that way definitively helped the videogame.

Also, I find it poetic that a game about autism and how it's often looked down upon and missunderstood in society has to mask the fact that it is about autism and that it's art and that it's made on rpgmaker, because it too would be looked down upon and missunderstood in society.

S rank, no questions asked, this game actually has two sequels, will play them, idk if I will analyze them or not, depends on if someone requests it.
a compelling review, specifically the sociocultural commentary of creative artistic media as vehicles for driving/carrying culture and being there for the people it represents/reflects/depicts while being able to navigate and chameleonize with the broader conditions of social contexts at the time

i've thought about that for a looooong time with art/animation/music/games generally, and always wonder how i would be able to learn to do something similar to that, where i would be able to at least be responsible with the messaging or delivery of my theoretical future creations like games that each express something from my experiences and observations and curiosities/interests/indulgences
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Polyspora
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Polyspora
Guys/lads/people this game made me feel/sense/experience such sadness/unhappiness/sorrow/misery
Achromalia
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Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

Guys/lads/people this game made me feel/sense/experience such sadness/unhappiness/sorrow/misery
as they often do
z0z
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z0z

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Guys/lads/people this game made me feel/sense/experience such sadness/unhappiness/sorrow/misery
as they often do
people/[sensory input]/[negative calm emotion]
Achromalia
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Achromalia

z0z wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Guys/lads/people this game made me feel/sense/experience such sadness/unhappiness/sorrow/misery
as they often do
people/[sensory input]/[negative calm emotion]
i really felt like [a variety of applicable conditions that describe the scope and character of particular experiences, and generally represent what is meant to be communicated despite it being difficult to think clearly and coherently, with a reliance on multiple examples to better illustrate and anchor those descriptions with the outline of something at least passably comprehensible],

specifically about [media with a particularly substantive context that meaningfully characterizes how we interpret and explore the work, in ways which can be difficult to thoroughly articulate but are important and instrumental to the personal experiential premise and the interests held]
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Patatitta
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Patatitta
so true actually
Patatitta
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Banzo - marks of slavery, (dropped)

idk, not exactly what I expected

Banzo is a strategy/managament game about brazil's quilombos, and it's just not very interesting or fun, the game is extremely simplistic, while it is a management game, there really aren't that many options, not only that, but these mechanics aren't really explained very well, so you can just do a mistake thinking a certain action would do something for it to then do something different, which leads to a failed mission objectives which means you have to restart the entire game from the start

it's frustrating to play, this could be something good but this doesn't feel like the intended experience.

There is a story, but in many circumstances it feels like it takes the backstage to the management, and it isn't the most engaging either

didn't really like thje game very much, not placed on tier list

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still finishing baki

no more videogames to play
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Patatitta
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Baki (only watched season 1 and I don't plan on seeing any more)

this is actually so bad it's kinda amusing

baki is the story of a 13yo with the body of a mutant that bangs his mom and wants to beat the fuck out of his dad, (honestly, writing it like this, isn't this kinda the plot of dog "ningen"?). The anime just consists of baki running around and beating everyone up, like every other shounen

The anime is in a contant of "Your dad is the strongest fighter in this world!" for then 5 minutes later for someone to go "EXCEPT THAT GUY, HE MAY BE STRONGER" for then baki to beat them up (after a near loss where he falls to the ground, everyone thinks he's dead and then he wakes up and wins the fight), and then it repeats, like really, this has happened way too many times in the anime

But what I find most funny about this anime is the exposition dialogue, this is when a character says something that you as a viewer should be aware of, so for example, when they go like "let's go through the plan one more time" in a heist movie and they explain the whole heist, that is exposition dialogue. In baki, it happens midfight, both of them kinda just stop, and the guy baki is fighting just starts telling baki about basic biology that baki should already know, but they make factual mistakes in the explanation that they abuse to become superhuman, like when they were talking about adrenaline and they kinda just assumed that adrenaline could make you hyper powerful

the characters are somehow more OP than fantasy character that use magic, like, baki characters have so much muscle that they resists gunshots, more even, there is a character that claims to be able to resist nukes

this anime just wanted to have abominations fighting and it will stop at nothing to make sure that premise is fullfilled, it's amazing

placed in D rank tho

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next: nothing, queue empty lol
Reyalp51
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Patatitta wrote:

this anime just wanted to have abominations fighting and it will stop at nothing to make sure that premise is fullfilled, it's amazing
wow i was expecting you to drop the show quick but you did watch it lol, glad to see you understood peak anime
Karmine
1,036 posts
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Karmine
Stuff to play:
I Was a Teenage Exocolonist
No Man's Sky
Death Stranding
Road 96

Stuff to watch:
Armitage III (The OVA)
Lost Highway
Nightmare Alley
Shrek

I tried picking stuff that's interesting.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Karmine wrote:

Stuff to play:
I Was a Teenage Exocolonist
No Man's Sky
Death Stranding
Road 96

Stuff to watch:
Armitage III (The OVA)
Lost Highway
Nightmare Alley
Shrek

I tried picking stuff that's interesting.
I've already beaten teenage exocolonist and death stranding, may do later, no man's sky is not the type of game I vibe with or what I want for this thread, road 96 I can do

for stuff to watch will probably do everything, did watch shrek in the past but I would have to rewatch it
Karmine
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Karmine
Yeah figured NMS wouldn't be your kind of thing but I'm kinda addicted to it lately so I had to try. :D
Nyzhenets
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Nyzhenets
try out "Prototype" (game)
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Nyzhenets wrote:

try out "Prototype" (game)
this?
Nyzhenets
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Nyzhenets

Patatitta wrote:

Nyzhenets wrote:

try out "Prototype" (game)
this?
yea
Karmine
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Karmine

Nyzhenets wrote:

try out "Prototype" (game)
Banger game.
B0ii
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B0ii
finally the potato man had some time to rest
Patatitta
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Patatitta
I have already beaten these two videogames so

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I Was a Teenage Exocoloist

This was a game I randomly found in the wild, I went into it completely blind, and I enjoyed it quite a bit

Exocolonist is about you traveling to a far away planet to form a colony on it and growing up inside the colony, the gameplay is like a CPRG where there is just text and then you can say different things, some actions requiring a small minigame to be performed.

The game is pretty engaging, this is a game that never ever feels frustrating or boring, so it's very easy to just play it for prolonged periods of time, I think the actual "growing up" mechanics works very well, in many ways, a lot of the things I did in the videogame kinda mirrored what I did in the actual real world, at the start, I did the things that I would enjoy more, I took the classes I of subjects I liked and didn't give it much thought about it, but then I met people I wanted to be around with, so then I started planifying my schedules and decisions around them, but then we all grew up and their personality changed so I became friends with this other group of people and etc

That playstyle the game subconsciously put me in felt realistic, I could relate to the events happening on screen, and that pulled me really hard into the game

The actual way romance is gamified is also top notch, in most videogames only you can make romantic advances, to get into a relationship you just need to talk to that character a whole lot and then a events pop up and now you have another NPC living in your home, romance in exocolonist gives the final say to the other person, not you, the player. The way romance works in exocolonist is that you increase your relationship with a certain person to an unspecified ammount, flirt with them an unspecified ammount, and after an unspecified ammount of time happens the other character may approach you and maybe ask you out, but then, if you flirted to another character they may be aware of that and that may harm your relationship with both of them.

After you start going on with someone, you still don't have full authority like in many other games, the other character may break up with you for things like your future plans deviating, the romance system in exocolonist is WAY more complex than in many other games, since it understands romance is not just a event, it's not something that happens, it's a process that entails many different things, it's more accurate to the real world and in many ways, it being so complex and often requiring so much from the player will make the relationship actually grow stronger, you feel a stronger attachement to that character now that you've gone through all of that compared than if it was like any other videogame

thing is, there is also a sideplot about monsters in the planet and that sort of stuff, a sideplot that you can just ignore, kinda like what I did. Things in this game happens if you're there or not, and I just decided not to be there, problem is that I accidently kinda did things that made the situation worse and I got a bad ending, I felt responsable for this and pretty sad, so, I did something that I almost never do in any videogame, I launched up a second playthrough

The game was 90% dialogue and I had already read a good chunk of it, so everything I had already read I could skip, leading to a much faster second playthrough, but, the game has a small little mechanic that I didn't know existed The game remembers your previous playthroughs, your character remembers your previous playthroughs, the character has the knowledge of the entire plot and they can now change things, this kinda impacted me as I just was trying to fix my mistakes due to emmotional attachement, I didn't realize me feeling like that was an intended part of the game

In the second playthrough I went full in on that sideplot, and I was able to learn a lot more, I got an ending I was comfortable with, but again, I knew the situation could probably even better, so... why not play the entire game once again as I slowly become an omnipotent god in the universe of this videogame but like I did not do a third playthrough I realized that if I did any more playthroughs this game was going to consume my soul and probably social life so I contained myself

I looked online and it turns out that you're meant to have the "best" ending after like the 5th playthrough, this is really good design. In most games that have multiple endings or routes, in order for me to go back and actually do them, I either have to read about them online and get interested enough, or for the game itself to tell me that I could have done things differently, exocolonist is the only game were I restarted out of my own volition and was rewarded for it.

As I say you have already reached a good ending by the second playthrough, it's your own obsession and it's your own mind telling you to do it all again once again, the game isn't really pushing you to do this in any way you would notice, so whenever you do end up finding something, it's YOU who found it, it's your own doing, and that feels great

so yeah, exocolonist, good game, I recommend it, A rank.

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Death Stranding

I love death stranding, so far, my ranking of kojima games is the following

MGS2 > Death Stranding > MGS3 > MGS1 > Tokimeki Memorial (still have to play MGS4, MGS5, and snatcher)

Death Stranding is a game where you fulfill your lifelong dream of being a amazon delivery person during the apocalypse. The gameplay loop consists of you picking up cargo and having to deliver it somewhere, at the start you will be doing by foot, and the game makes sure it's uncomfortable as fuck. You will sway from to side to side, the terrain will never be flat because fuck you and also there are like ghosts that want to fuck you over and also random guys that want to fuck you over and also the climate wants to fuck you over and also your cargo wants to fuck you over until you get access to vehicles which are nice for a little while until you realize oh yeah the terrain is not FLAT I can't drive this fucking truck up the mountain i'm just going to kill myself actually at this point

Playing this game takes willpower., it's not hard, but it's like really annoying, but annoying in just the right way. The game never really actually retracts progress from you, it just makes sure that you don't make a lot of it, but whenever you have achieved something, that is staying. You're not losing maximum health or XP like in some other videogames. This motivates you, since you know you can accomplish it, that anyone can if they just have the determination, you never go get into a point where you go "oh like I honestly should just start savescumming or just start over since I fucked my playthrough", it's slow, but you end up getting somewhere

And for all the frustration this games throws your way, occasionally there will be moments that will make it all feel worth it, you've done the hardest part of the journey, you feel mentally exhausted, and then, a low roar song randomly kicks in and you just see the scenary and god it's GOOD

the OST death stranding has is unreal, as along with some songs from other artists, it takes the album "0" and Once in a Long, Long While" from low roar, and it just turns out, that low roar makes BANGER songs which are somehow elevated by the game and the struggle you must go through

I would say the game is worth it to play just for those small moments alone, but these aren't the only moments when death stranding truly makes it feel like everything so far has been worth it. There was a moment in the game where I unlocked a bike, I tried it out, and it went fast, very fast, and just blazing through all the terrain that had been giving you so much problems before at that speed just feels apotheosic, of course after a while you will fidnd something you cant do with the bike, but the moments you can use it, it will be so fun.

Recently I criticized GTA IV for having shit driving mechanicos that didn't feel me cool while driving it, death stranding had a few moments where I felt really cool.

Death stranding is a game that wants you to beat it even if it is as unwelcoming as it seems, the story overly complex and convoluted like any kojima game but the general idea is that you must connect all of america, you're basically setting up internet connections, the gameplay does really encapsulate this idea very well, as during the game you can place little things like ladders or rope that help you traverse, thing is, you can see the structures other players placed, and other players can see the ones that you placed, so in a way, yes, the game is frustrating, but you're all in this together, it's a group effort, and everyone knows that by the end it will all be so, so worth it.

I really love death stranding, I will play 2 whenever it comes out, even if i'm a little bit worried that the OST won't be as good due to low roar passing away.

Placed in A rank

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next: Road 96
started watching armitage III, so far it's nice
Tad Fibonacci
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Tad Fibonacci
MGS in B tier?

Unbased
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Tad Fibonacci wrote:

MGS in B tier?

Unbased
idk, read what I had to say
TeeArctic1
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TeeArctic1
It's not done, but I'll reccommend the Witch Hat Atelier manga - and the Delicious in Dungeon and Frieren animes
Patatitta
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TeeArctic1 wrote:

It's not done, but I'll reccommend the Witch Hat Atelier manga - and the Delicious in Dungeon and Frieren animes
guess what I bought the other day



but yeah, i've read all of those three, will do them later
TeeArctic1
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Patatitta wrote:

TeeArctic1 wrote:

It's not done, but I'll reccommend the Witch Hat Atelier manga - and the Delicious in Dungeon and Frieren animes
guess what I bought the other day



but yeah, i've read all of those three, will do them later
Ayo we don't even have that volume avaliable here yet, lucky!
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Witch Hat Atelier

peak

This is something I reread a while back (I read it in digital, the physical manga is just for collecting purpouses), and honestly I want to re-read as it been climbing in my mind, I rated it a 9/10 when I initially read it but honestly there is a chance that when I reread it I give it a 10. Also, if I were to reread this, this would be my second ever reread, the only other one being shimeji simulation, my favourite manga of all time

In my personal opinion, witch hat atelier is one of the greatest fantasy stories of all time. It's a VERY ambitious manga but I think it pulls it off. The story orbit around education, this is a topic that has been covered in many other animes, but never to the extent of witch hat atelier

In most animes, the education is just a stepping ground to the main story, in which the characters prove to be really cool and smart and they pass it after some complications, like the initial arc of hunter x hunter or kaiju nº 8, here, not so much. Here, that's not the case, coco isn't really that special, it's just that the system is corrupt, while magic is available to everyone, that is not something that is known, in fact, most people are lead to believe that they cant use magic

All of the knowledge about magic is highly controlled, in many ways it's like a propaganda machine, they control who learns about magic, what type of magic they learn, the public perception on magic, how they use that magic, and in order to do this, they use magic.

The story, instead of focusing entirerily in coco, it's more about the world that she lives and what is kept secret from her, it's about the institutions and the people running those institutions.

Online i've seen a lot of discussions about magic systems, in most animes, magic is supposed to be complex and hard, the magic system in this manga is kinda the complete opposite, it's extremely simplistic, in fact, it's very similar to the system that the cartoon "The Owl House" follows, which again, both are based on the idea of magic circles and glyphs that many old religions followed. The magic system doesn't need to be difficult, the characters don't need to be OP, what makes a magic system good or interesting isn't the system, but the context where it exists

Witch Hat Atelier isn't about the actual magic itself, but about the implications said magic have on the world, in, fact, the fact it's so simple only supports the story, anyone can do it, but you're lead to believe you cant.

I feel whenever the internet gets into conversations about these specific topics in world-building and overall writing a lot of the time they tunnel-vision really hard, powerscaling is a real thing that is taken into consideration when writing, but what makes something work and something fail isn't that single element by itself, but how that combines with the rest of the world.

Now, the art in this manga is fucking amazing, specially the paneling, but this is something i've talked at length in my girls last tour analysis, (yes, I talked about witch hat atelier in there)

so yeah, easy S tier

also I really need to read that cooking spin-off

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Tragones Y Mazmorras (this is the true title but if you want to use the objectively inferior version you can call it dungeon meshi)

This is also another fantasy story that popped up recently that got very popular, I've read it didn't think too much about it, then the anime came out, I ignored it, my IRL friends got into it, I gave it a watch, and I ended up enjoying it more than the manga

Tragones y Mazmorras is a very typcal, dragon quest/JRPG inspired fantasy story, except that it's about cooking.

This anime does as few interesting things, first of all, you may be quick to criticize that the general setting of this anime is kind of generic, you got all your typical jrpg monsters, you have dungeons where the laws of the universe applies in different ways, all of the cast members have skillsets and specializations that you've probably seen before, but, this is a good thing. The focus of dungeon meshi isn't it's worldbuilding, it's about cooking, so, by reusing all of those elements you're already more than familar with, dungeon meshi can skip explaining a lot of things. They don't need to explain what a slime is, you've already seen and slayed thousands of them, however, what they may explain is the biology of a slime and how you can cook it

Like yuru camp, it's not only about the food, but also about how people react and eat food, and how your cultural background takes a part in that. Cooking for other people is by nature a social activity, a lot of the character developement is showcased during the eating scenes.

This anime is not for everyone, this anime goes really in-depth about biology, cooking, and many random things, however, if you for example had an hyperfixation on those topics, this anime is heaven

dungeon meshi also has a plot but like honestly I didn't really give that much of a shit about it I just liked the cooking

Having said that, this anime isn't really ambicious, it isn't trying to do anything too crazy, in many ways it's just the most pure and refined version of the recently formed genre of mangas about cooking (like this is a real thing, it's been popping of as of recent, I should probably read more of them tbh), as I said, it does have a plot but I feel it has it more to fit into the societal norms and to bait people into this anime rather than anything else, this genre is still not as widely accepted as something like the slice of life genre is so they need to have that hook in order for it to become a mainstream hit like it did

Now, something that isn't discussed about dungeon meshi, mainly because of the language barrier, is the spanish dub, it's a really, really, really good dub. There is a lot of elitism in discussions about dub vs sub, a lot of people claim that subs are objectively superior due to it being closer to the original artists vision and whatever the fuck, I don't agree with this. Yes, the dubbing industry here is weaker than the voice acting industry in japan, but, they offer something that japan cant, and that is, to use extremely colloquial and local expressions that makes you go "no fucking way they said "la han palmao" in this anime"

The dub just improves the watching experience, it's more fun. I feel that for the longest times dub were afraid to get too crazy, they tried being as accurate as possible to the source material and the original interpretation and context of the words. In recent times, this has changed. In machikado mazoku season 2, in the english dub, mikan says "that's sus", this may be seen as unprofessional dubbing and localizing, but they couldn't be further from the truth, it's in character, and while what she originally said wasn't literally that, it still conveys the same energy and it makes more sense she talks a little bit of brainrot instead of talking like straight up taken from a noir detective novel

so yeah, I stan dubs and dungeon meshi has a really good one and it's also fun so A rank

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Frieren

people are not going to like what I have to say about frieren

it's not peak (note i've only read the manga)

frieren is something that I discovered and read like a year before the anime came out and fucking exploded, and I remember being very disappointed on it. The synopsis of the manga is that there is this girl called frieren, who is an elf and has a really long lifespan, she went in an adventure once, but many years have passed since then and the original members of that adventure are old/dead now. Frieren then takes a apprentice and just shares their wisdom with them

The synopsis of frieren sold me, I expected it to be closer to something like yomawari-sensei or even girls last tour and that whole happy post-apocalypse genre, what I expected was a very slow manga, very soft and melancholic, where frieren kinda just sits there and reminiscences, maybe having regrets or wishing they could have done anything different, and then her passing that to her apprentice, who maybe doesn't really quite understand frieren due to them not having lived the same experiences and having a great generational gap

this is not what I got, in fact, that whole reminiscence thing is not really explored that much, what happens is that she just goes in a new adventure, she ends up forming and group and retracing the adventure she took back in the day, without heavy stakes like the real adventure she went through

this isn't a bad concept either, but it's not that unique, it doesn't feel like it's really trying to do anything that interesting, it just doesn't feel like their past adventure really had that much weight, she isn't really facing the consequences of her actions in the past

as an example there is a scene where frieren just turns out to owe a lot of money to a certain group of people, then they arrest frieren and force her to work in the mines to recover the money she owns, this is actually a pretty intersting plot point. You're in a state where you're reflecting on your own life, and this was a mistake, but you now also have responsabilities, it's interesting to see how she would traverse that situation, see if they were to accept their punishement, try to fix things in a different way that still allows them to teach their group, or just run away like a coward and double down on a regret you had, leaving a bad impression on the group

This is resolved half a manga chapter later when she user her super cool magic powers to basically blow the mine up and find a super valuable ore that pays for her entire debt and she goes back like nothing had ever happened (her partners don't even really notice it), it's even worse when you consider that the government would rather pay 20 miners than have 1 single mage go to the mine because as it was clarified at the start frieren's power aren't really that special it's just that the education system and magic theory advanced rapidly and those are things any proficient spellcaster can do nowadays

I just see frieren as a big pot of missed potential, what is there isn't bad but I'm just dissapointed on how little it actually explores the themes that it tackles and how lazy it feels sometimes, placed in B

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Armitage III

This is a cyberpunk 4 chapter anime OVA that released during the OVA boom back in the 90's. This anime has a cyberpunk setting which was fairly new back in the day, I don't really have much to say about this anime

It's just kinda generic, everything it does, blade runner, akira, and ghost in the shell has done it better, it was a little bit boring to watch

placed in D tier
Polyspora
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darkwood
Patatitta
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Polyspora wrote:

darkwood
community/forums/topics/1829424?n=883

also it doesn't really catch my interest
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Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

darkwood
community/forums/topics/1829424?n=883

also it doesn't really catch my interest
You should add a list of rejected entries to avoid duplicates
Polyspora
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oneshot
stray
who's lila
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Patatitta
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Polyspora wrote:

oneshot
I have already played it but i'm so fucking tired will do in 2 days tomorrow i'm outside the whole day


Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

darkwood
community/forums/topics/1829424?n=883

also it doesn't really catch my interest
You should add a list of rejected entries to avoid duplicates
yeah honestly it's a good idea, this is the first time it happened someone requests something that was denied in the past tho
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shit uh, check the edit
Patatitta
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Polyspora wrote:

shit uh, check the edit
yeah sure will do those 2 other ones I haven't played them
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