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Patatitta
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Legend of the galactic heroes (Remake + Original OVA)

It's really fucking good

This anime is a sci-fi drama about space politics, there are two main guys, a cool good guy who is just a regular dude in the army that climbs the ranks because he is really good and an evil dictator that runs the enemy empire and shit, however, everything is very morally gray, this isn't as one sided as star wars which has a similar premise

In fact, in order to drive that home, the protagonist for the first 2 chapters (at least for the remake) is not the "good guy" protagonist, but the other guy, at the start, you're supposed to root for the "evil" guy, and then, whenever the other protagonist gets introduced and the shift of the anime changes, you're meant to reconsider who are you rooting for and why, you're forced to think critically about the guy you were just rooting for

Half of the anime are these two protagonist sitting in room and talking, discussing the problems of their respective empires, governments, and what are the plans for defeating their opponent, the actual action scenes aren't too much fluff explosion death look he's so badass, but it's mainly focused on explaining military strategy to the person watching it, kinda like some parts of kingdom

and this just continues on and on since the anime is really fucking long and goes REALLY in depth about some stuff, you can't just overthrow a corrupt government and that's it, you need to ensure that the new government resists the corruption, as the anime explains that politicians doesn't just go "i'm going to be evil" but there are circumstances and a process where a politician get's inducted into corruption

eblf don't read

There is a part where the good guy protagonist makes an independent political movement to try to stop the evil guy, however, he fucking dies, this both shifts the focus from the actual characters to the actual world and circumstance, and forces the members of that movement to make a difficult choice, how do they decide the next leader, which shows very easily how a seemingly democratic system could fall into monarchy or dictatorship real easily

Now, the remake doesn't run forever, and contrary to what seems the consensus online, I enjoy the remake more than the original series, and that is because everything that isn't the actual writing on the original OVA sucks, the art is really bad, like the actual fight scenes are laughable, there isn't much of an ost or sound design and the actual openings are pretty bad

The story is also incredibly dense from start to end, you don't really have breaks, so it can be really hard to watch near the end because you've watched other 100 episodes of what is basically a political debate

still, this anime is very important for a variety of reasons. Nowadays, there is the idea that mediums such as film or video games should only have the goal of being fun, "If it's not fun, why bother". When the director of the last of us 2 said "hey, this game is not meant to be fun", there was backlash, because what is the point of a videogame if it's not fun

That's why stuff like politics or philosophy or whatever are often shamed upon, these are elements that the biggest blockbusters shy away from because they want to appeal to as many people as possible in order to make up for their stupidly high budget

This is an old anime that embraces the least fun elements, and polish them into something amazing, still not the most fun, but after watching it you feel it was worth it. And this is considered one of the greatest anime ever created. Which is great for the medium as a whole

so yeah, good anime, S rank

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next: Annihilation (movie) (Requested by karmine)
still playing half life
burgernfat
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burgernfat
are you willing to do baba is you
Patatitta
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burgernfat wrote:

are you willing to do baba is you
tried to beat it twice, brain too small sorry
Patatitta
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Annihilation

This movie was alright

It's actually a horror film but I didn't realize until I was watching the film, thankfully it wasn't too bad

the movie is about a biologist that goes into a place called the shimmer in what's basically a suicide expedition because no one that had gone into the shimmer had made it out alive

the shimmer is this nearly fantastical incredibly colorful forest, a place that doesn't really feel dangerous, it almsot elt like something from a fairy tail, this kinda subverts yoru expectatives because well, you expeect the scary place to be... scary, however you know you're watching a horror film so you still brace yourself for the worst

I really like that design choice, since it really helps push the message of the film, what causes all the deaths and the horrors isn't really anything evil, simplifying a lot, what the shimmer does is amplify and imitate the inherent self-destructiveness nature of humankind. The entire movie is around that idea of self-destruction

The only persons that would go in what is basically a suicide mission are persons that are already self-destructive, and given that they never make it out, the people outside never learn of this fact, which causes them to really never break the cycle

So yeah, pretty smart movie, still, I didn't really quite vibe with it idk why so C tier

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halfway through half-life 2
next: Danny Smoke in Furry Land (fanime) (requested by Nuuskamuikkunen)
Karmine
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I actually didn't know it was horror either when I watched it but yeah aside from like 1 or 2 scary-ish scenes it's fine.

It's by the same director as Ex Machina (which is better imo) and it really shows, it's not horror at all so you can watch it too if you didn't already :D you might enjoy it more, or maybe you won't vibe with it :D.
Patatitta
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Karmine wrote:

I actually didn't know it was horror either when I watched it but yeah aside from like 1 or 2 scary-ish scenes it's fine.

It's by the same director as Ex Machina (which is better imo) and it really shows, it's not horror at all so you can watch it too if you didn't already :D you might enjoy it more, or maybe you won't vibe with it :D.
yeah I can do ex machina
Patatitta
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Danny Smoke in Furry Land

I know you're trolling with this request and you tried to request the worst thing you could, but this unironically was so fucking funny

it's a furry fanime told in youtube shorts, the art is fucking awful, so is the plot, and the characters, but it's so bad it loops back around and it's good

of course this isn't nearly as good as a proper parody comedy series like garth merenghi's darkplace or even nyan neko sugar girls which yes i'm putting at the same level as darkplace, but it unironically understands their medium and audience well

this series is improved by the fact that are youtube shorts, as it's built with that idea in mind, there are multiple gags that involve it being youtube shorts, like the intense action part that just randomly has subway surfers in the bottom half, this is even better considering that this is both the shortest part and an action scene, which are normally supposed to be the more engaging part of these type of stories

the fucking arc where they get called gay and they transform into a super powerful being out of rage and unleash a shockwave of pure straight power that nearly resets the universe is good, same with the latest part (23) which i'm not spoiling but it's a banger joke too

I don't know if I should place this on the tier list as it feels like it would be an insult to everyone else to put it as high, but it would probably land between A and B, it's unironically good

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still beating half life

next: ex machina


+ if you truly want to request something that lands in the bottom tier, recomend the most boring, mid, put together with duct tape type of thing, not something that can be funny
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Winnyace
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I'm waiting for the time you will review To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar ;)
Patatitta
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Winnyace wrote:

I'm waiting for the time you will review To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar ;)
not doing music
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen

Patatitta wrote:

Danny Smoke in Furry Land

I know you're trolling with this request and you tried to request the worst thing you could, but this unironically was so fucking funny

it's a furry fanime told in youtube shorts, the art is fucking awful, so is the plot, and the characters, but it's so bad it loops back around and it's good

of course this isn't nearly as good as a proper parody comedy series like garth merenghi's darkplace or even nyan neko sugar girls which yes i'm putting at the same level as darkplace, but it unironically understands their medium and audience well

this series is improved by the fact that are youtube shorts, as it's built with that idea in mind, there are multiple gags that involve it being youtube shorts, like the intense action part that just randomly has subway surfers in the bottom half, this is even better considering that this is both the shortest part and an action scene, which are normally supposed to be the more engaging part of these type of stories

the fucking arc where they get called gay and they transform into a super powerful being out of rage and unleash a shockwave of pure straight power that nearly resets the universe is good, same with the latest part (23) which i'm not spoiling but it's a banger joke too

I don't know if I should place this on the tier list as it feels like it would be an insult to everyone else to put it as high, but it would probably land between A and B, it's unironically good

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still beating half life

next: ex machina


+ if you truly want to request something that lands in the bottom tier, recomend the most boring, mid, put together with duct tape type of thing, not something that can be funny
I told you it was purposely bad and that you might enjoy it since you liked Nyan Neko Sugar Girls. I really liked it.
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Winnyace
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Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I'm waiting for the time you will review To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar ;)
not doing music
bich fine
Lapizote
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Winnyace wrote:

I'm waiting for the time you will review To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar ;)
tbh that would be a boring review

there have been so many other reviews by people of varying quality and takes
idk if spanish potato man can say anything new in this case
Patatitta
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Lapizote wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

I'm waiting for the time you will review To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar ;)
tbh that would be a boring review

there have been so many other reviews by people of varying quality and takes
idk if spanish potato man can say anything new in this case
yeah that's also true
Patatitta
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Ex Machina

Enjoyed it way more than annihilation

This movie is about a guy who gets selected to try to prove an AI a rich misogenistic guy made is sentient, point is, it's impossible to know if a machine has developed or not consciousness. Even if you had a machine that acted like a human and talked like a human, they could just be faking having a consciousness

Even with the experiments performed in the movie, it's impossible to know if it's sentiant or know, in fact, one of the end twists is that the real test to see if their AI could try to socially manipulate the guy into getting her freedom, even if this something that is really hard for an AI to do, it's not impossible, and therefore, we don't know if it's conciouss or not (also the fact that the rich guy modelled the AI as a sexually appealing girl for him didn't help prove his case either, if it was just a box like it was suggested earlier in the movie that manipulated the guy it would have even more merit)

Thing is, while it may be missguided, it makes sense for those experiments to be missguided, as they show the flaws in both the rich guy and the regular guy. The rich guy is a fucking asshole, he isolated themselves from the world and owned a sex slave, the way he justified his asshole mentality is that it was just human nature, therefore, if an AI could replicate that type of behaviour, it would be on the same level as a human As an example, he believed sexuality was both needed for human interaction to happen and something required for the AI to know how to use as a weapon to prove itself as concious

The regular guy also had flaws, smaller flaws, he wasn't even in the same universe of assholery as the rich guy, but still, (In fact, I don't think the protagonist ever really thought she was sentient, he just thought he would gain benefit from believing it was sentient and helping it), these were things the AI exploited

This is a pretty good movie all-around, def vibed with it a lot more than annihilation, so putting it in A rank

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nothing more to watch or read

3/4 through half life 2
lostsilver
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ok this is prob the only anime i will ever request, and if it looks like something you wont like you can deny it
could ya do dino girl gauko? you dont have to if you dont want to
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Patatitta
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lostsilver wrote:

ok this is prob the only anime i will ever request, and if it looks like something you wont like you can deny it
could ya do dino girl gauko? you dont have to if you dont want to
I could, reading the synopsis I don't think i'm going to enjoy it tho, could do it if you really wanted to
lostsilver
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Patatitta wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

ok this is prob the only anime i will ever request, and if it looks like something you wont like you can deny it
could ya do dino girl gauko? you dont have to if you dont want to
I could, reading the synopsis I don't think i'm going to enjoy it tho, could do it if you really wanted to
it's up to you! if you dont wanna do it thats fine!
Karmine
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Glad you liked Ex Machina :).

If you do series you can try Top of the Lake, there are 2 seasons but they're 2 separate stories (kinda). Season 2 isn't as good iirc.

You could also try Lilyhammer.
Patatitta
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Karmine wrote:

Glad you liked Ex Machina :).

If you do series you can try Top of the Lake, there are 2 seasons but they're 2 separate stories (kinda). Season 2 isn't as good iirc.

You could also try Lilyhammer.
yeah sure can do them
Patatitta
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Half life episode 1 and 2

Honestly this game just feels like a really well polished tech demo

It's a single player shooter developed by valve, about a guy with a crowbar defending humanitry from an alien invasion, the actual story is pretty basic, yeah it has some element of mistery near the end because half life 3 was never released and we never saw the continuation to the plot of g-man and stuff, but it's clearly not the focus of the game, the focus of the game is the shooting at aliens, and it does a pretty good job at that.

Half life is actually developed under the havok engine, and they wanted to flex it as much as they could, the most interesting part about havok are the physic calculations it could do, and half life is built from the ground up with the idea of that phyisic based gameplay. In many parts you will have to move objects, jump on seesaws, and in half life 2, use a antigravity gun to literally pick up objects around you and throw it to the enemies

it was more a "look at we can do" rather than "this will fit really well in the game" tho, for example, until the very end of the game, I found the gravity gun, which is like the big thing of half-life 2 pretty underwelming, it's a very situational weapon (since you couldn't use it in certain enviroments) that can do ok damange and often blocks your own vision with the object you're carrying. Not only that, but if you were to pick up something like a explosive barrel, enemies could shoot at you, hitting the barrel and doing WAY MORE damage than they would have done it. It was never really worth it to use a explosive barrel than the rocket launcher. If the ammo economy was tighter it could have seem some use, but the game makes sure you have all the ammo you need in every part of the game to make sure you don't get stuck

They're very wacky at times, and if you make a mistake and don't realize the intended solution to a puzzle, the game just doesn't really work. I rememberi n half life 2 a segment where there was a seesaw and you needed to put barrels on one side of the seesaw, underneath so they were to float up in the water and push one side down, but instead of putting the barrels underwater, I put them on the opposite site of the seesaw on the ground, and that solution did not work, had to google to see what was I doing wrong

Half life 2 also introduces steam achivements, which was a brand new feature at the time. and again, they just added them because they wanted to show off the techonoly, not because adding steam achivvements could make the game better. They're often "reach this part of the game" or "collect x many thigs!", they're not achivements that feel cool to obtain and if you were to 100% the game, it would become a pain real quick

There was actually a story by the developer of antichamber, where valve reached out to him sayign "hey add steam achivements to your game, it will probably boost the sale numbers", and he went like "achivements would contribute nothing to my game" so he didn't, and that was the correct choice IMO

A game that has good steam achivements in my personal opinion would be a game like BTD6, where they turned a lot of community made challenges like "beat chimps with only 2 towers" into an actual ingame challenge, or games like isaac or picayune dreams where you can restore your savefile by looking at your steam achivements, since each achivement is tied to an unlock.

The level design in half life 1 and 2 is as good as it (probably) could be, both games constantly make you feel like you're in danger, there is no time to actually explore every bit of the map, everything wants to kill you and since killing enemies doesn't actually give you a reward, if skipping a fight is an option, it's likely the correct option

Even while rushing through the maps at max speed you normally don't get lost, the game pushes you in the right direction most of the time (sometimes you have to backtrack and that isn't quite clear and or you just don't see a door tho, that felt annoying), however, I feel I didn't get lost often mainly because I have been playing videogames my whole life, I was using stuff like ammunition packs and things like that as markers of where the game wanted me to go, but someone who is newer to gaming may not pick that up and get really lost

The game features f6 f9 gameplay, it allows for quicksaves to be done and loaded really quickly, which changes the gameplay completely compared to our more modern checkpoint based gameplay. By having mistakes only cost you a few seconds instead of having to retry a mission, you play a lot more reckless. If you're playing a modern game you may often go slower and play more tactical since well, you're doing so well in this mission and you don't want to start over, in half life since that danger doesn't exist you can just try as many dumb and dangerous ideas and you can

I think this fits very well with the feeling half life is trying to push, it makes you feel a lot more powerful and it's faster paced gameplay allows for that feeling of danger and haste I described earlier

anyways yeah half life alyx exists but I don't have the means to play it since valve is again trying to flex their technology again and made it what I think is the first ever AAA VR only game, which is neat, I love VR, more people should support the technology so it gets cheaper, but until that happens, I cant play alyx

Placed in A rank, it still was fun even if I really shat on it LMAO

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No game left for me to play
Haven't started the tv shows
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Patatitta
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Top of the lake Season 1

sex can be a pretty fucked up thing am I right

This is a pretty standard TV drama with a fairly convoluted plot about rape, pedophilia and all other cool forms of sex, the entire tv show, at least season 1, is about this girl who falls pregnant and the search for who is the father

I don't really have a lot to say about this show, it doesn't really go deep enough or give a different message than the things i've already watched in the past

also I fucking swear movies and stuff are making me not want to have sex LMAO, whenever sex is presented in a negative form they do it in this way where they really nail that home and make it awful and whatever and whenever it's presented in a positive form you're probably watching austin powers so in a way that's like presenting it in a negative form

Placed in B tier, don't think I will be watching season 2 tho

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next: lilyhammer
Karmine
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Austin power is pretty positive though, he's just a bit unhinged. :D
Scyla
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Scyla
maid-sama
Patatitta
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Scyla wrote:

maid-sama
this one?
MangaGrumpy
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Howl’s moving castle
Patatitta
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MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Howl’s moving castle
I could watch it (again since I'm pretty sure I watched it as a child) but my view is going to be very tainted due to a very specific and funny mistake from the spanish dub so I may not say anything that actually interests you in the slightlest or anything about the actual anime itself but thinking about it that's kinda something I want to talk about since I kinda already talked it with my friends not so long ago so yeah fuck it i'm doing it
MangaGrumpy
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Patatitta wrote:

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Howl’s moving castle
I could watch it (again since I'm pretty sure I watched it as a child) but my view is going to be very tainted due to a very specific and funny mistake from the spanish dub so I may not say anything that actually interests you in the slightlest or anything about the actual anime itself but thinking about it that's kinda something I want to talk about since I kinda already talked it with my friends not so long ago so yeah fuck it i'm doing it
honestly the disney dub is best lol
Patatitta
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MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Howl’s moving castle
I could watch it (again since I'm pretty sure I watched it as a child) but my view is going to be very tainted due to a very specific and funny mistake from the spanish dub so I may not say anything that actually interests you in the slightlest or anything about the actual anime itself but thinking about it that's kinda something I want to talk about since I kinda already talked it with my friends not so long ago so yeah fuck it i'm doing it
honestly the disney dub is best lol
you don't even BEGIN to understand laputa
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Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen

Patatitta wrote:

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

Howl’s moving castle
I could watch it (again since I'm pretty sure I watched it as a child) but my view is going to be very tainted due to a very specific and funny mistake from the spanish dub so I may not say anything that actually interests you in the slightlest or anything about the actual anime itself but thinking about it that's kinda something I want to talk about since I kinda already talked it with my friends not so long ago so yeah fuck it i'm doing it
honestly the disney dub is best lol
you don't even BEGIN to understand laputa
Patata, Laputa (yes we also did that mistake in LATAM) and Howl's Moving Castle are two different films.

Patatitta
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oh shit my mistake, they sound extremely similar and I always get them mixed up, still will watch it probably
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Howls Moving Castle:

it's a studio ghibli film, so it's pretty good

Howl's Moving Castle is a fantasty adventure film about mages and stuff, it's prettyh good all around, the plot isn't the most daring or whatever but it doesn't need to do so. The way I see it ghibli kinda creates those standards, they pick a pretty basic story and polish it to oblivion, this movie is probably one of the best version of the typical story of defeat the evil wizard guy, it's not so much ghibli's task to subvert your expectations than to create those expectations for other anime to subvert

The art is really good as it was to be expected, same with other most technical aspects of the movie, it's not really worth pointing them one by one since you kinda just expect it already

Honestly the only point to really discuss with ghibli films in my opinion are the energies the movie provides. My favourite ghibli movie is totoro, it was the one I grew up with, it is a very relaxing, happy, low stakes movies with a pretty beautiful setting, howl's moving castle is more traditional fantasy, so it is not relaxing or low stakes really, this just appeals more to a different type of person

so yeah, it's just a good movie, I don't really have to say that many things about it, A tier

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Lilyhammer

Comedy/drama tv show, only saw season 1

it's about a guy in a mafia that has to move to norway, half of the film are jokes on how hard it is to integrate into norwegian society and the other half is the actual crime plot

I don't think these two aspects really mix well which each other, the jokes are pretty good, but they're often cut short due the mafioso personality of the protagonist coming in making the situation more complicated and less funny in my opinion, and the plot, while nothing wrong by itself, seem to be afraid of really going deep or doing something interested due to the fact that this is set in the context of a comedy tv show, so it kinda ends up being mediocre at both

A way to pull off something like this properly IMO would be something like our flag means death, (I haven't seen many TV shows but honestly this may be my favourite), they go full out with their comedy and then are able to develop a surprisingly engaging story on top of it by making the actual storylines of each individual characters the interesting part, not an overarching complex storyline like lilyhammer tries to do

I just don't really see what was the vision with lilyhammer, I don't know if they tried making a seirous tv show, felt it was too heavy, and tried to make it comedy, or if they wanted to make a comedy but they were afraid of going full out on it due to it becoming too silly and that bieng a bad thing

I don't think I will be watching the other seasons of this, placed in C tier

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literally nothing else in the queue LMAO first time this happens since the thread inception honestly feel free to suggest longer things now that it's empty, still, I may be kinda picky with very long things
Lapizote
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when i was young my mom loved reading John Grisham (and i would read his novels when she was done with them because i was bored)

and so id like to suggest the first John Grisham novel that i've read - The Client.

no idea if it was any good since i havent done a reread yet now that im older lol
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reffty_gag
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Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
Joon Yorigami
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Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
Patatitta
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Lapizote wrote:

when i was young my mom loved reading John Grisham (and i would read his novels when she was done with them because i was bored)

and so id like to suggest the first John Grisham novel that i've read - The Client.

no idea if it was any good since i havent done a reread yet now that im older lol
tbh if you really don't recall how it is, i'm not really interested on OT, if anything I want to try out what OT likes, not what they vaguely remember is good


reffty_gag wrote:

Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread, also, is the show finished?, it shows up as ongoing


Joon Yorigami wrote:

Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
absolutely not, I care for my mental wellbeing
Karmine
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Play Ace Combat Zero, the story is cool.
It's free on PS2 lol.
Joon Yorigami
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Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
absolutely not, I care for my mental wellbeing
What about Whiplash? -w- (my genuine favourite film)
Patatitta
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Karmine wrote:

Play Ace Combat Zero, the story is cool.
It's free on PS2 lol.
yeah I can do this, still will leave the title like this for at least a day


Joon Yorigami wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
absolutely not, I care for my mental wellbeing
What about Whiplash? -w- (my genuine favourite film)
it's my second favourite film, only behind lily chou-chou, I don't need to watch it so I will write on it later
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami

Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
absolutely not, I care for my mental wellbeing
What about Whiplash? -w- (my genuine favourite film)
it's my second favourite film, only behind lily chou-chou, I don't need to watch it so I will write on it later

no way HAHAHAHA
but it's nice to know that you enjoyed both of those -w-
Patatitta
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Joon Yorigami wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Can I force you to watch Eraserhead
absolutely not, I care for my mental wellbeing
What about Whiplash? -w- (my genuine favourite film)
it's my second favourite film, only behind lily chou-chou, I don't need to watch it so I will write on it later

no way HAHAHAHA
but it's nice to know that you enjoyed both of those -w-
holy fuck we're in the same wavelength


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Whiplash

it's really fucking good, I'm not going to spoiler tag anything since I assume everyone is familiar with whiplash due to it being a modern classic and all

it's a movie about a guy who plays drums, and wants to get better at drums, so he starts practicing under this instructor which is like the strictest, most awful human being to ever work under

The objective of the instructor is to create a legend in the jazz sphere, and he strongly believes the best way to create someone like that is to push someone to their absolute max, to not settle for anything under perfection, it being painful being painful was a required evil

This is actually a philosophy that many people do hold, honestly, if you just search in youtube you can find tons of videos on whiplash that glorify this mentality, that believes that fletcher was in the right for pushing neiman that much



Neiman for example was a person that truly believed in that mentality, he wanted to be great, and he thought this was the best way for him to reach that goal, which led him for him to actually be able to endure fletcher's training

Now, I personally see two problems with this philosohpy

1- It really doesn't guarantee greatness at all
2- You ruin your life in the process

About the first point, fletcher believes that as long as you obtain enough technical skill you will raise to the top, that as long as you're good enough at playing the drums you will rise up into one of the best of all time. This doesn't really work that way

Technical skill isn't enough to carry you, you also need to know how to actually write songs, to create art, you also need some more finnancial skills like know how to market yourself and know which deals are good for you. If you're the best drummer ever but can only produce soulless songs, then it's all wasted potential, and honestly the more artistic side of things, I feel it's important to have a lower stress environment for them to flourish

The second point is somehow harder to argue against, we all know that neiman is going to die before they reach 30, probably due to suicide, drug overdose, or something along those lines, however, they don't give a shit, they even acknowledge that in the film, they consider dying early and being remembered in the history books a better outcome that dying at old age and not being remembered long term

I don't agree with this but honestly I don't have a strong point on why, I just think you got to be a little bit selfish with life, I don't want to people to praise me after i'm dead, if anything, I want people to praise me while i'm alive, you being influential can help other people, but not so much yourself in this circumstance

In the end of the movie we get confirmation, neiman did make it, he became a famous and well respected drummer, but we're meant to ask ourselves at what cost

The general philosophy of fletcher and neiman is honestly pretty similar to what we see online nowdays of hustle culture/sigma male stuff. The dream that if you just work hard enough you can make a gazillion dollars, it's a pretty dream to believe in, even before all of this, we had the american dream, that kinda played on the same ideas, but the sooner we realize we're not living in a meritocracy, the better

another aspect of the movie I would like to point out is how neiman behaviour directly makes the lives of people around them worse. He leaves his girlfriend, gets on bad terms with their family, they basically ruin all the social relationships in the life. This isn't a onesided action, his girlfriend truly did love him, that breakup is worse for her than it is for him. Everyone that loved him at any point of their life are basically having to deal with those relationships breaking off, he becomes an awful human being in the process of becoming good at drums

so yeah, peak movie, easy S rank
burgernfat
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burgernfat
deus ex
Winnyace
754 posts
Joined June 2016
Winnyace
Senren Banka :)
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen
What if I recommend Phantom Requiem for the Phantom and Fate/Zero (Zero is the starting point of fate so you don't need to watch anything before dw).

Both are by Gen Urobuchi, same writer as Madoka.
Lapizote
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Lapizote
okay ill just suggest something i've been obsessed about recently (enough to be writing an essay about it for my art class): blade runner 2049
NotKal
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NotKal
I don't really know if you seen this before, but I gonna recommend you the anime Your Lie In April. It's a fun little happy rom com I think you'll enjoy.
reffty_gag
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reffty_gag

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread, also, is the show finished?, it shows up as ongoing
After some searching, yes it confirmed to season 2, so maybe denied ??
Patatitta
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Patatitta

burgernfat wrote:

deus ex
yeah I can do that


Winnyace wrote:

Senren Banka :)
isn't that just porn


Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

What if I recommend Phantom Requiem for the Phantom and Fate/Zero (Zero is the starting point of fate so you don't need to watch anything before dw).

Both are by Gen Urobuchi, same writer as Madoka.
I can do phantom but i'm scared of getting into fate



Lapizote wrote:

okay ill just suggest something i've been obsessed about recently (enough to be writing an essay about it for my art class): blade runner 2049
fuckkkkkkk I watched it a while back but don't remember shit but I don't really want to rewatch it so idk will be on the backburner I just remember it was really cool

I can watch the original tho, haven't seen it and i'm interested in watching it


NotKal wrote:

I don't really know if you seen this before, but I gonna recommend you the anime Your Lie In April. It's a fun little happy rom com I think you'll enjoy.
"fun little rom com", yeah of course, clearly, nothing bad or soul scaring happens

anyways, I already got the ending spoiled a while back but surprisingly I never watched it, so yeah, why not


reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread, also, is the show finished?, it shows up as ongoing
After some searching, yes it confirmed to season 2, so maybe denied ??
no I mean if they are still releasing chapters for season 1
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Winnyace
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Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Senren Banka :)
isn't that just porn
Somewhat. It's an eroge, yeah, but I think it has a decent enough story.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Senren Banka :)
isn't that just porn
Somewhat. It's an eroge, yeah, but I think it has a decent enough story.
denied
Winnyace
754 posts
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Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Senren Banka :)
isn't that just porn
Somewhat. It's an eroge, yeah, but I think it has a decent enough story.
denied
fair enough I guess
Lapizote
121 posts
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Lapizote

Patatitta wrote:

Lapizote wrote:

okay ill just suggest something i've been obsessed about recently (enough to be writing an essay about it for my art class): blade runner 2049
fuckkkkkkk I watched it a while back but don't remember shit but I don't really want to rewatch it so idk will be on the backburner I just remember it was really cool

I can watch the original tho, haven't seen it and i'm interested in watching it
sure

the og movie is super cool too
Behrauder
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Behrauder
Gosick.
lostsilver
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lostsilver
ooooo
do rhythm heaven if you can get your hands on a copy
it's not a narrative game, but it is a silly rhythm game!! :3
reffty_gag
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reffty_gag

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread, also, is the show finished?, it shows up as ongoing
After some searching, yes it confirmed to season 2, so maybe denied ??
no I mean if they are still releasing chapters for season 1
no, the season 1 only has 7 episode
Patatitta
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Topic Starter
Patatitta

Lapizote wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Lapizote wrote:

okay ill just suggest something i've been obsessed about recently (enough to be writing an essay about it for my art class): blade runner 2049
fuckkkkkkk I watched it a while back but don't remember shit but I don't really want to rewatch it so idk will be on the backburner I just remember it was really cool

I can watch the original tho, haven't seen it and i'm interested in watching it
sure

the og movie is super cool too
will do then


Behrauder wrote:

Gosick.
sure


lostsilver wrote:

ooooo
do rhythm heaven if you can get your hands on a copy
it's not a narrative game, but it is a silly rhythm game!! :3
"if you can get your hands on a copy"

Patatitta wrote:

this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread
anyways denied






reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

Joko Anwar's Nightmares And Daydreams (on netflix) pls.
(if it doesn't exist in your country just tell me)
this mf really believes I haven't pirated every single thing mentioned in this thread, also, is the show finished?, it shows up as ongoing
After some searching, yes it confirmed to season 2, so maybe denied ??
no I mean if they are still releasing chapters for season 1
no, the season 1 only has 7 episode
yeah then sure
BluePyTheDeer_
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BluePyTheDeer_
RoBeats.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

RoBeats.
honestly, what do you expect me to say about a heavily monetized no gimmick VSGR game made in roblox, it's literally like every other VSGR in the market but worse due to it being on roblox also it's not even the type of things I talk about in this thread so like hyper denied
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Achromalia
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Achromalia
man has the most generally-consistent suggestion guidelines imo and still nobody listens :sob: i suppose people just copypaste what they like and leave it at that, but... idk, unfortunate

(in fairness, unfortunately im not sure i have anything i can suggest either, despite lots of things being meaningful to me. i dont really play anything myself, i always always watch other people play and i develop personal relationships to things through that and the fandom. either that or anything i watch/read is typically immediately 95% forgotten from my mind, so it's barely useful unless i've just recently seen/read it. like what can i really ask anyone to look at if i don't even understand what i've seen because im garbage at memory-and-attention-and-logic requisites for media literacy)
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Winnyace
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Winnyace
Stardew Valley?
Achromalia
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Achromalia

Winnyace wrote:

Stardew Valley?
does sdv even have much of a narrative...? explicitly speaking... there's the intro, and then the community center, and arguably something could be found in festivals and locations like ginger island. anything else, and you have to get it in the tiniest bits and pieces over a gradual amount of time, and it's mostly just character development :c which is fine and sometimes sweet but idk

up to the potato friend, i do find it interesting what would happen if this was ever accepted
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Winnyace
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Winnyace

Achromalia wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Stardew Valley?
does sdv even have much of a narrative...? explicitly speaking... there's the intro, and then the community center, and arguably something could be found in festivals and locations like ginger island. anything else, and you have to get it in the tiniest bits and pieces over a gradual amount of time, and it's mostly just character development :c which is fine and sometimes sweet but idk

up to the potato friend, i do find it interesting what would happen if this was ever accepted
Depending on the characters you interact with, you find more about the town and its inner workings, as well as characters. It isn't as much of a narative as a traditional game, but I think it is more interesting.
Achromalia
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Achromalia

Winnyace wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Stardew Valley?
does sdv even have much of a narrative...? explicitly speaking... there's the intro, and then the community center, and arguably something could be found in festivals and locations like ginger island. anything else, and you have to get it in the tiniest bits and pieces over a gradual amount of time, and it's mostly just character development :c which is fine and sometimes sweet but idk

up to the potato friend, i do find it interesting what would happen if this was ever accepted
Depending on the characters you interact with, you find more about the town and its inner workings, as well as characters. It isn't as much of a narative as a traditional game, but I think it is more interesting.
right, that's sort of what i meant to signify by the character dialogue but i didn't even remotely write that clearly so,, fair enough
Nuuskamuikkunen
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Nuuskamuikkunen

Winnyace wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Stardew Valley?
does sdv even have much of a narrative...? explicitly speaking... there's the intro, and then the community center, and arguably something could be found in festivals and locations like ginger island. anything else, and you have to get it in the tiniest bits and pieces over a gradual amount of time, and it's mostly just character development :c which is fine and sometimes sweet but idk

up to the potato friend, i do find it interesting what would happen if this was ever accepted
Depending on the characters you interact with, you find more about the town and its inner workings, as well as characters. It isn't as much of a narative as a traditional game, but I think it is more interesting.
I think he already talked about stardew valley and why he wouldn't accept it.
Winnyace
754 posts
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Winnyace

Nuuskamuikkunen wrote:

I think he already talked about stardew valley and why he wouldn't accept it.
oh?
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Achromalia wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Stardew Valley?
does sdv even have much of a narrative...? explicitly speaking... there's the intro, and then the community center, and arguably something could be found in festivals and locations like ginger island. anything else, and you have to get it in the tiniest bits and pieces over a gradual amount of time, and it's mostly just character development :c which is fine and sometimes sweet but idk

up to the potato friend, i do find it interesting what would happen if this was ever accepted
Depending on the characters you interact with, you find more about the town and its inner workings, as well as characters. It isn't as much of a narative as a traditional game, but I think it is more interesting.
I don't really know, I have like 100+ hours into stardew valley and I don't really agree with this, it doesn't have a plot or whatever, sure you can probably make a game theory video with certain lines of dialogues or whatever, but that's really not the point, the point of stardew valley is for you to have a cool farm feel relaxed and that's about it
Winnyace
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Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

I don't really know, I have like 100+ hours into stardew valley and I don't really agree with this, it doesn't have a plot or whatever, sure you can probably make a game theory video with certain lines of dialogues or whatever, but that's really not the point, the point of stardew valley is for you to have a cool farm feel relaxed and that's about it
Correct. The main point is mostly to feel relaxed and whatnot and it has next to no plot. I feel like the game has mini stories set in the same environment, not really a big, overarching story.
Patatitta
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Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I don't really know, I have like 100+ hours into stardew valley and I don't really agree with this, it doesn't have a plot or whatever, sure you can probably make a game theory video with certain lines of dialogues or whatever, but that's really not the point, the point of stardew valley is for you to have a cool farm feel relaxed and that's about it
Correct. The main point is mostly to feel relaxed and whatnot and it has next to no plot. I feel like the game has mini stories set in the same environment, not really a big, overarching story.
and that is the reason why i'm denying it, I really don't have much to say
Winnyace
754 posts
Joined June 2016
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I don't really know, I have like 100+ hours into stardew valley and I don't really agree with this, it doesn't have a plot or whatever, sure you can probably make a game theory video with certain lines of dialogues or whatever, but that's really not the point, the point of stardew valley is for you to have a cool farm feel relaxed and that's about it
Correct. The main point is mostly to feel relaxed and whatnot and it has next to no plot. I feel like the game has mini stories set in the same environment, not really a big, overarching story.
and that is the reason why i'm denying it, I really don't have much to say
Fair enough, then.
reffty_gag
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reffty_gag
i want to req "Pintu Terlarang (The Forbidden Door) (2009)" pls.
Dont worry there was a pirated ver with english sub.
McEndu
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McEndu
what about the werecleaner
Patatitta
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Patatitta
Phantom requiem for the phantom

it was good

it's a mafia/crime drama anime about this guy who loses all their memories and is tasked to go kill people, the plot is pretty interesting. The anime has this idea that for a normal, non-mentally ill person to kill, in a way they must forsake their own humanity, for example, the protagonist initially would not kill if it wasn't for the lost of memory, is the fact that they don't feel like a human that allows him to take the life of another human

in a later scene in the anime, they are able to recover their memories, but again, they decide to abandon that life and continue their life as a hitman, still, the fact that they recovered their memories kinda allowed them to "defy" the organization they were working for

later on the story, the protagonist wins a disciple, kinda repeating the story but from a different point of view, which humanizes the characters more, sometimes you see the same scenes with the protagonist previously being the trainee and now the actual boss

also, this anime has a surprising ammount to say about gun control, which wasn't something I expected to see, making multiple scenes referencing how guns are banned in japan but not in the US and a couple lines of dialogues which are basically "Guns can't be used to protect other people, only to cause harm"

In that same vein there are multiple scenes talking about how guns themselves are hard to use properly, when he first gets a trainee, he teaches them how to use a gun, he leaves the disciple train for their own for a little bit, and when they got confident in their skills, the protagonist kinda just walks in and basically says "you're doing it wrong"

so yeah, the anime is pretty good, however I didn't find it the most engaging, so I will bne placing it in C tier

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next: Your Lie In April (Anime) (Requested by NotKal)


i'm a bit more than halfway through ace combat


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reffty_gag wrote:

i want to req "Pintu Terlarang (The Forbidden Door) (2009)" pls.
Dont worry there was a pirated ver with english sub.
there are pirated versions of anything, if you can't find them, you're not looking hard enough (except in the very rare cases where there truly isn't a pirated version))

anyways will watch


McEndu wrote:

what about the werecleaner
seems more like a casual/simulation game, idk if there is enough meat in it for me to really talk much about it
Patatitta
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Patatitta
Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan wars:

0/10 got scammed originally read the title as the BALKAN wars and not BELKAN

anyways, this is a jet fighting game sponsored by the american military-industrial complex, like, really, lockheed martin and northropp grumman logos are in the opening screen of the game.

The game story is focused on the story of this legendary war hero, who was a mercenary that took down a lot of planes and made great advancements towards peace and shit. The actual story is told in a very RTS format, like really, it felt REALLY similar to something like Command & Conquer. You have individual missions with different objectives, in which you get a cutscene, maybe involving live action footage explaining the context, then you go to a mission overview in a really cool UI and then you play the mission

I'm a big sucker for RTS and especially RTS campaigns, they always feel so memorable to me. Although, the RTS genre is basically dead because of the success of starcraft 2. Instead of making cool narrative games with killer campaigns like warcraft 3, they tried focusing on e-sports, and since no game has been able to replicate starcraft 2, the genre has died. So i'm REALLY happy to see something that has the same energy and creates the same emotional response for me

Now, the actual campaign has some problems, first of all, it has no tutorial. Ace combat is a game with a very franchised and established playerbase, and this game is one of the most hardcore games in the franchise, so for them it's fine to not have a tutorial, but for me, the first hour was just me trying to figure out how to fly the plane and shoot, and honestly, it wasn't until halfway through the game I learnt how to use the special weapons. That was not a good experience.

Secondly, the game balance. There are three types of mission this game. air to air, air to ground, and the two of them combined, sometimes they let you choose, the problem with this, is that with the exception of the penultimate mission, air to ground is WAY easier, it's a night and day difference, so basically the difficulty curve of the game fluctuates depending if it's air to air or air to ground, and whenever you have to choose, you would have to be insane to pick something that is not air to ground. You don't really get more rewards for picking the harder mission, and even from a narrative point of view, it doesn't make sense to pick the harder mission. You're a soldier, you can die at any moments, have your allies have died already, why the fuck would you risk your own life even more in purpouse?

Also, related to the previous problem, the mission objectives don't feel varied enough, some missions are exactly the same as the other one but in a different environment, with the only exception of the penultimate mission (which also is, in my opinion, the best mission of the game!), so yeah, no culling of stratholme for you

The next problem runs a bit deeper, and that is the morality system. There are civilians and things that don't pose a thread in this game, they are shown in a different color in a radar. These are never essential objectives, and you can spare them. At the end of each mission a bar fills up with 3 areas, which determine if you're sparing civilians, if you're murdering them, or if you're in between, this affects some of the dialogue, some unlocks (this isn't really clear tho, I only discovered it affected unlock until now that I just googled it LMAO), and what enemies appear in the next mission, not the actual mission objectives, just some specific enemies

Thing is, I don't really feel it's very polished, there really won't be much differences if you kill everyone, in fact, some missions can become significantly easier if you do it, since some missions are based on score, and killing civilians give score, choosing not to kill civilians reduces the number of targets and sometimes force you to fight harder targets, and if you kill civilians in a mission that isn't score based, you still get more credits. With the game being sponsored by the american military-industrial complex (making it in a way political propaganda) and the story being about a cool war hero, yeah, I don't know what they want me to think about their stance on nuking civilians

However, even with all of these flaws, the game was fun, the actual core gameplay was solid, flying the plane was fun and engaging, and the actual story, even if I disagree with some of the messaging and with it being quite simple, was still interesting. I see a LOT of potential in this franchise, I don't really know (or really think), that there is any other ace combat that really fixes those problems, but if you just fixed those problems, and made a campaign that is more similar to warcraft 3 in terms of actual mission objectives and storytelling, it could be one of my favourite games of all time. The RTS genre may not revive, but this will do. I really hope this franchise keeps getting support and that ace combat 8 is a banger videogame, because I will very likely be playing it.

placed in c tier

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next: deus ex

haven't started your lie in april
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MangaGrumpy
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MangaGrumpy
fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood
burgernfat
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burgernfat
if you have issues running the thing then read this
Karmine
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Karmine
I forgot Ace Combat games are not easy for new players :cry:.

If you like the story and lore the other games of the main series all take place in the same universe sometimes reference events from past games (it's fun to spot them).

The morality system is only in Zero, it only matters if you want to see all possible cutscenes tbh.

Also it's not really sponsored by weapons manufacturers, they just have their logo because they allowed (or licensed idk) use of real plane models in the game (there's the same thing with Gran Turismo and other car games).

I would have suggested 3 because it's my favourite but the controls are very outdated (can't go up/down and left/right at the same time lol) and the only way to play it is to patch the jp version so it's not really the best to start with. It has a kinda convoluted story branching thing going on depending on your choices and things you do during missions (there's 5 "endings" but they all complete each other so basically you only get the full story by playing them all).

Btw here's the timeline if you ever wanna play the others chronologically
Patatitta
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Patatitta

burgernfat wrote:

if you have issues running the thing then read this
already faced that problem and fixed it


Karmine wrote:

I forgot Ace Combat games are not easy for new players :cry:.

If you like the story and lore the other games of the main series all take place in the same universe sometimes reference events from past games (it's fun to spot them).

The morality system is only in Zero, it only matters if you want to see all possible cutscenes tbh.

Also it's not really sponsored by weapons manufacturers, they just have their logo because they allowed (or licensed idk) use of real plane models in the game (there's the same thing with Gran Turismo and other car games).

I would have suggested 3 because it's my favourite but the controls are very outdated (can't go up/down and left/right at the same time lol) and the only way to play it is to patch the jp version so it's not really the best to start with. It has a kinda convoluted story branching thing going on depending on your choices and things you do during missions (there's 5 "endings" but they all complete each other so basically you only get the full story by playing them all).

Btw here's the timeline if you ever wanna play the others chronologically

thanks for info, may play but in a later date, I need to play deus ex and I want to replay warcraft 3



MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:

fullmetal alchemist: brotherhood
already watched it, will do tomorrow, or now if i'm bored
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Patatitta
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Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

this may be one of my most "unpopular" opinions, I do NOT like FMA, i've seen both the anime (brotherhood) and the manga

in the FMA world there exist alchemy, you can tranmutate everything into something that has the same value, and well, they tried to transmutate a human being, but that didn't work because human beings are invaluable beings, and the plot is them trying to recover their body

The actual plot has a lot of political undertones, mainly with religion, however, I feel there isn't much nuance to the takes FMA gives on religion, it mostly falls on the typical "churches use it to manipulate people" (This is most apparent in the chapter 1 of the non brotherhood version), but it really doesn't go deep enough, it doesn't really factor the social elements that would led to people believing in religion, this may seem like a petty complain, but it really makes it feel superficial criticism to me

Now, it also talks about the military, which again, they do pretty bad shit, but I don't feel there isn't anything substantial in there

the concept of alchemist is good and interesting, but I do think other animes since then has used it in WAY more intersting ways, first example that comes to mind is the second season of made in abyss, the concept of value is basically the same as alchemy, however, I feel that in those 13 episodes they do a lot more interesting shit than in the 64 of FMA

however, the single element that I hate the MOST of FMA, is the concept of a philosophers stone, it's a item that you can use in alchemy to do impossible transmutions, like, human transmution, this is possible because the philosophers stone is fabricated by taking the life of someone alive, in various point of the anime, the two brothers obtain a philosopher stone, which would basically mean the end of the anime. BUT, instead of using it, they decide to discard the stone because they cant possibly use something that someone was killed in order to create

This is fucking idiotic, the HUMAN SOUL is already IN THE STONE, you cant get the soul out of the stone, so USE IT. If you use it for a good cause, at least they can be avenged by helping someone, by discarding the stone and not using it, you're making the sacrifice of the dude for NOTHING, you're so morally white that you're actually just the most stupid being on earth

also, this anime is mainly action, and I don't think the action scenes really contribute much other than them being fluff?, I just don't vibe with it

placed in C tier because it's better than the shit in D rank LMAO
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Patatitta
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Deus Ex (dropped)

The first hour of so of this game was playing the tutorial, realize the game didn't run properly and fix it, the next hour was actually pretty fun, the next couple hours however, I just can't get into it

I like the idea of the game, a more open RPG with shooting and stuff, the story semed cool too, my problem is that the gameplay just feels so, SO awful to play. The game heavily incentivices a stealth playstyle, and while I enjoy metal gear solid, I just can't get into stealth in most games, for me it feels boring, not really engaging, and just one of the worst gameplay genres you can have. The second option is to just go kill people, but that brings with it some problems of it's own, as the game doesn't really want you to play like that, something like shooting takes a solid seconds before you can have a somewhat accurately aim

The game is an old shooter, so it has the quicksave type gameplay, however, unlike a game like half-life, it's VERY easy to basically get your save softlocked. Since there are barely any health recovery, and the ammo economy is punishing as fuck, it's easy to get yourself into a position where you don't really have the resources to keep pushing, so you would have to reload an even older save, lose a lot of progress, do it all again, reloading on every hit because you can't afford to get damaged, and it's just so frustrating and slow and I want to rip my skin out

It got so bad, that at some points I straight up activated cheats and healed/activated godmode since I just couldn't bother doing it properly, but, after a while, I realized I wasn't having much fun so i'm dropping it

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your lie in april is so peak actually

no more games to play
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Karmine
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Gotta keep this list full so here's a game: Ar tonelico 2.
Patatitta
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Karmine wrote:

Gotta keep this list full so here's a game: Ar tonelico 2.
I assume I don't have to play ar tonelico 1?
Joon Yorigami
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would you watch girls' last tour
Karmine
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Karmine

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Gotta keep this list full so here's a game: Ar tonelico 2.
I assume I don't have to play ar tonelico 1?
Nah, aside from like 2 characters nothing from 1 is in 2, the stories are separate.
Patatitta
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Joon Yorigami wrote:

would you watch girls' last tour
nope, it's not like it's one of my favourite work of fiction ever made or anything like that




Karmine wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Gotta keep this list full so here's a game: Ar tonelico 2.
I assume I don't have to play ar tonelico 1?
Nah, aside from like 2 characters nothing from 1 is in 2, the stories are separate.
will do
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Sound Slide.
burgernfat
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yeah, deus ex's inaccurate aim mechanic sucks ass

anyway, i'm suggesting inscryption
Patatitta
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Girls last tour

more like, girls PEAK tour am I right

I just want to say, i'm HEAVILY biased towards this anime/manga, it's been in my favourite for a long time, i've interacted with the fandom, and i've kinda formed my tastes and in part personality around it, so yeah, don't expect me to be neutral or objective

Girls last tour it's a post apocalyptic philosophical slice of life anime created by our lord and saviour tsukumizu yuu. First of all, even if it's post apocalyptic there isn't any action, or danger in the traditional sense, this is not mad max, the post-apocalyptic setting just provides a setting where tkmiz can discuss the shit he wants to discuss

Our two main protagonists, yuuri and chito have grown up after the apocalypse, so they have no real idea how the human society operated, a lot of the anime plays with the both of them rediscovering human artifacts and trying to interpret them

The first episode of this anime really defines the tone of the rest of the show and sets you in the right mindset. TLDR, they find rations, and yuuri pulls up her gun to chito in order to keep all the rations, however, this isn't really a tense scene, but more playful banter

while chito and yuuri are in a very dangerous situation all the time, they don't really feel like it, for them, the concept of them being the last humans on earth is an accepted fact, they know that at some point, probably earlier than later, they will die. Of course that doesn't mean that they're totally careless, they still have fears and things like every other human does, but for them, the apocalypse is their daily life, and they have normalized like we do our daily lives

Tkmiz as a writer has a very absurdist philosophy, they aren't really negative or pessimistic in any way. I don't have studies in philosophy, but my interpretation of tkmiz works is along the lines that no single object in our human society has inherent value, all value is produced by human beings, and our thoughts of what has value are created by our environment. Nothing has value by itself, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to give our own meaning to life, to fill that void with love, with art, with competition, with anything that makes you really feel alive

An example of this would be the episode about "paradise". At the start of the episode, chito and yuuri find some hot springs, and they decide to bathe in it, this is great. Chito knows how to read and has read some books in the past, so she has picked up some vocabulary, she describes the bath as "paradise", yuuri agrees with it, later on the episode, they find a sanctuary dedicated to a god, which is supposed to be a religious, mortal sanctuary, however, while chito understands the origin and explains it to yuuri, neither of them really get the idea, then, they start talking about the actual meaning of the word paradise, which they define as a holy land. However, they admit that they prefer their own paradise (the hot spring).

On our current society, it doesn't make much sense to put the hot springs over the important religious monument, but by itself, there isn't anything that makes our interpretation more valid than their interpretation, it's just that we live in a culture where we define paradise as the religious temple, not the hot spring. our ancestral origins and belief system have made our society consider the religious temple more important, but they are in a different circumstance, their environment is different, they live in a situation that no human being so far has ever found themselves in, and it just so happens that in that world, the hot spring IS paradise.

Although, my personal favourite episode from the anime is the episode where chito and yuuri dream of owning a house. They find some old ruins o a house, and they just daydream what would it be to live in there and what would they want to have in their house, this episode is GOOD

first of all, kinda similar to the previous episode I talked about, they often make some pretty weird choices for furniture they would want, or even romantice certain pieces of furniture like bookshelves, this really shows how culture and our environment affects how we perceive the world and how we decide to run our lives, their necessities are different to ours, and their life experiences are different, so what they want is going to be different to what we want

This episode also touches the concept of value, again, chito wishes for a bookshelf, however, she doesn't really know how to fabricate one or where do they come from, we know that you can easily make a bookshelves with a bit of wood, but she doesn't, and still, she perceives wood as way more valuable than we do. She sees bookshelves as another artifact of human history, she really can't tell what is more valuable, a bookshelf, or an empty book, so due to her lack of knowledge and experience, she perceives the bookshelf as WAY more legendary than it is, to like royalty level shit

The episode also does really good at showing the relationship and dynamic between the two protagonist, they imagine them living together, which in our current society has certain implications that in their world they really don't. That type of activity, the designing your dream house with someone, is often an activity reserved for you and the person you love, it implies a romantic relationship, but again, lack of cultural context makes chito and yuuri not perceive it that way, and we as an audience perceive and understand it

It's not clear if thre is any sort of romantic feelings between chito and yuuri, however, if we look at it from more a meta perspective, something very interesting comes up. Let's reverse that scenario, and say chito was a man. Would we as an audience still have seen that scene and understood that there weren't any romantic feelings necessarily involved?, honestly, a lot of people may have understood it, but it would have been a smaller %

At the end of the day, for as much as tkmiz tries to frame certain things from this more culturally removed perspective, the actual anime still exists in a society where cultural context and previous knowledge exist, when we watch something, we subconsciously kinda considerate what the intention of the author was, and it just so happens that, for the same scene if chito and yuuri are a man and a woman, romantic feelings are more implied, and if they're both women or men, they aren't as implied.

Girls Last Tour NEEDS for both of their characters to be the same gender because in our handbook of media interpretation we perceive male/female couples different to homosexual ones, and it just so happens that the female/female pairing is the one that communicates the message better

In fact, there are a bunch of tweets by tkmiz that kinda confirms this:

Tsukumizu Yuu wrote:

>It often seems to me that sexual desire is the very essence of what it means to 'live', but that's too depressing so I become compelled to deny sexual desire completely. However, if I do that only values like 'nothingness' and 'death' remain, so I'm troubled.

>It is depressing to be afflicted by an emotion like 'lust' when I don't have any intention to do something like having kids.

>For people who revere homosexual love in media, I personally think it could be seen as a form of compromise or reconciliation of that dilemma.

>A work like 'Last Tour' featuring a male-female pair seems like it'd become incredibly irritating. 'What, are they Adam and Eve?', you'd think.

>In Ekuni Kaori's short story 'Sultry Night', a lesbian couple comments "There's nowhere left for us to go after this, huh? We're at a dead end." while holding hands, singing, drinking beer and walking through a town at night. I liked it very much.
Now, moving onto the art, this is something that doesn't really translate to the anime adaptation sadly, so I will mostly be talking about the manga

First of all, what does it mean for something to have good art?The most simple answer is well, the actual panels are well drawn, but honestly, I've read a lot, and for me what differentiates manga with good art from those that don't is the actual framing. It's not enough to know how to draw well, you must create circumstances in the story where the art is impactful, where you can dedicate an entire page just to a single drawing, good art is the one that sticks in your head, and for that, it needs to feel striking. Tkmiz does this very well, GLT is very focused around the world, so they just have big panels just showing stuff







Another thing I really like about tkmiz art is their paneling, it's not just about making panels that look good, the way you arrange tha patterns, and the actual background of the page where the panels are printed on are important. If we see in old manga, for example osama tezuka phoenix, you can see that the actual panel structure repeats over, and over, and over. Old mangakas just kinda followed a blueprint and then created a story with that, the panels felt rigid and paneling wasn't the most important

however, with time, mangas have started to care about the paneling a lot more, a work like GLT makes sure it's paneling helps the narrative of the story as well as being visually pleasing, this is something that would be pushed way further with their next work, shimeji simulation, but GLT already had really nice showings of this.



There are some drawings that straight up break out of their original panel, like this one



This was a trend tkmiz kinda helped to create and popularize, and in fact, a lot of modern mangas take this lessons and push them even further, a modern example of this (without counting shimeji simulation) would be witch hat atelier




Honestly, I haven't even talked about the ending or the sound design or how the adaptation didn't cover the entire manga and what that has to say about girls last tour and the anime industry but it's been like an hour and 15 minutes and I should go to sleep soon and this is also nearing the 2000 word mark but just so you know I could write another 2000 words on this

So yeah, girls last tour is GOOD, S rank.
Patatitta
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also, apparently the tier list has gotten so big I need to start compressing the image or the osu forums won't display it


BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Sound Slide.
i've said multiple times that I don't have anything to say about more arcade games like that, I already rejected at least 3 requests from you for that same reason, denied


burgernfat wrote:

yeah, deus ex's inaccurate aim mechanic sucks ass

anyway, i'm suggesting inscryption
i'm sadly going to have to veto inscryption, I still didn't have my philosophy of optimum media consumption routine and I did watch a youtube playthrough on it, something I would never do today, and if I were to play it now, my experience would be tainted because of it.
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damn
Joon Yorigami
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Why do you like what I like !! Also I think you did GLT some really good justice (hell I might even check out the manga just because of what you said), and even some great insight about how chito and yuuri perceive the world around them due to their lack of (or at least different) context. good read -w-
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Patatitta wrote:

also, apparently the tier list has gotten so big I need to start compressing the image or the osu forums won't display it
try just splitting it two
Patatitta
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z0z wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, apparently the tier list has gotten so big I need to start compressing the image or the osu forums won't display it
try just splitting it two
that is more work than compressing
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Patatitta wrote:

z0z wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, apparently the tier list has gotten so big I need to start compressing the image or the osu forums won't display it
try just splitting it two
that is more work than compressing
Problem with compressing is in long term the image may become impossible to read
Patatitta
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Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

z0z wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

also, apparently the tier list has gotten so big I need to start compressing the image or the osu forums won't display it
try just splitting it two
that is more work than compressing
Problem with compressing is in long term the image may become impossible to read
whenever that starts happening, I will start cutting the image in half or whatever, but for now, this is the way to go
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Wouldn't cropping the image twice to get 2 images be easier than compressing though?
Patatitta
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Karmine wrote:

Wouldn't cropping the image twice to get 2 images be easier than compressing though?
no, I use tiermaker, when it exports it only gives me one image, it's easier to compress that image than to open that in photoshop and crop it to create two high quality images
Karmine
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Patatitta wrote:

Karmine wrote:

Wouldn't cropping the image twice to get 2 images be easier than compressing though?
no, I use tiermaker, when it exports it only gives me one image, it's easier to compress that image than to open that in photoshop and crop it to create two high quality images
Aight, no need for photoshop though, default image viewer on windows can do that, I use it all the time.
Patatitta
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Ar tonelico 2 (dropped)

I just couldn't get into this game, played around 2 hours, and it's just, the movement is pretty scuffed, the combat doesn't seem excting, the story didn't grab me, there are a billion different mechanics and none of them look particullary interesting, dub is bad, it's just not something I want to bother with for another 40/50 hours

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nearing the end of your lie in april
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Patatitta
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Your Lie In April

this is a tragic romance anime like I wanna eat your pancreas and others, I actually got the ending of this anime spoiled 3 years ago, at the time I didn't mind it since I assumed that whenever I were going to actually watch this anime I would have forgotten about it like I've done for many other spoilers, but that didn't happen, since for some reason that is a core memory now, still, that didn't affect my enjoyement of the anime much

like, this anime is all about the process, you know what you're getting into, even if not, you can make an idea of what's happening, the foreshadowing in this anime is very obvious, but it's the actual implications, consequences, and process that makes it great

this anime is about a guy who played the piano who stopped playing the piano after his abusive mother died and then he meets a girl that gets them to play the piano again. Like many other animes, this relies entirerily on feeling rather than having a smart plot or en extremely deep message or whatever, which it nails

the actual situation the protagonist finds themselves in at the start of the anime is actually really pretty complex and hard but while this is a very extreme situation, I think it can be extrapolated to real life situations you may have lived, and I think the way they depict this is really good, since a lot of people IRL seems to miss the point

the protagonist didn't really have friends since childhood, they never really developed social skills or a social circle, he only knew how to do one thing and that was to play the piano really fucking well, since her mother forced him to practice and play the piano, he played following the actual sheet music very closely, however, once her mother passes away and he loses the reason to play the piano, he's really left with nothing

This isn't really about moving on, the actual trauma isn't the point of the anime in my opinion, but the acutal act of restarting your life. It's easy to say "oh just try to talk to people and get other hobbies" but it really isn't that easy, this is not really something they know how to do, they don't have any experience doing any of those things, plus, they don't really have the contacts needed to actually meet new people or try new things

it's even worse, since everyone who shared the same hobby of playing the piano already knew them and in some sort of way disliked them or had a shaky relationship with them

He really can't play the piano anymore, not because truma, but because he had no reason to do so. He only played following his mother instructions and only to win contest, he had no real artistic intention or free will during the act of playing music, so whenever he's free to do whatever the fuck he wants, he doesn't really have any reason to really play

... but again, playing music is the only thing he knows how to do, and it's not like he can just try new things, so he kinda does piano adjacent things. The only way for him to break that cycle is for their friends and people close to them to try to steer his life in a different direction, to give him a push

they introduced him to new people, he even fell in love, and it was this change of pace that allowed him to break free, he now had new objectives in life, he had the motivation to actually go through and do certain things, he was able to start playing the piano again

In the end of the anime, when the girl dies, it isn't as catastrophic as when his mother died, yeah, he was closer to his crush than to his mother, but now he has actually lived through many experiences he was lacking, he had gained life knowledge and experiences, he's no longer stuck in a weird limbo like earlier, he doesn't need to restart life once again, yeah, it's difficult and shocking at whatever, but he now knows how to keep pushing, how to keep living

so yeah, try to be a nice person and if you think or know a friend who could benefit from a little push, please do it

placed in S tier

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next: blade runner
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Blade runner:

this one is kinda weird to talk about, I thought it was fine, I feel most of the appeal of this movie is like creating/defining/popularizing the cyberpunk genre here in the west, but I feel that with time blade runner isn't as noble or original anymore, so idk

Blade runner has a plot, but it's not really the focus?, it has a couple interesting concepts, mainly the idea of replicants. Robots that act exactly like humans an even have memories like humans, thing is that replicants just by existing put into question the identity of everyone on earth, you could be a repicant and not know it, even if you remember taking a test and knowing that you're not a replicant... what if someone implanted those memories into you?, there is no real way to know, and while this topic is explored, I don't think it goes deep enough

the main appeal of blade runner is the actual world building, defined cyberpunk as this hyper capitalistic/hyper sexual distopia, but it doesn't really explain why the world is the way that it is, other cyberpunk media like akira for example are fairly grounded in their assumptions of the future, however, blade runner implies a world where technology skyrocketed in power but that our human ethics and social issues have been ignored since the date of making the movie, maybe even reversed a little bit

I don't really like this, in most cyberpunk films (including modern blade runner), like with science fiction, you can imagine how society transitioned between our current state and the state depitced in said work, if you watch akira or ghost in the shell you get how things got that way, in fact, this genre uses that idea to make comments in our current society and world, but blade runner feels more like pure negligence from the global population which seems kinda weird

yes it defined the cyberpunk genre, but it has been the task of future cyberpunk films to recontextualize and give meaning to the world of blade runner

placed on C tier

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next: gosick
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