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Patatitta

Pillowey wrote:

me when i cant play roblox on linux (i have to use waydroid which i cant play phantom forces with it)
honestly this is a positive, like not being able to play league of legends

BluePyTheDeer_ wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

you literally don't even need to log in to load the savefile, the account is literally optional
Even with the save file nothing loaded.
then you're doing it wrong
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

Pillowey wrote:

me when i cant play roblox on linux (i have to use waydroid which i cant play phantom forces with it)
honestly this is a positive, like not being able to play league of legends
True. If you want to play League of Legends or Valorant or other kernel level anti-cheat games on Linux, you can't do that. We can't change that, sadly.
z0z

Winnyace wrote:

Pillowey wrote:

me when i cant play roblox on linux (i have to use waydroid which i cant play phantom forces with it)
I am 70% sure Roblox is now available on Linux again through Wine.
it's not, i checked
Winnyace
Yeah, it seems I was out-of-date. They want/already added a kernel level anti-cheat to it.
B0ii
I'm planning on installing linux on a virtual machine sometime within 1 - 999 weeks
z0z

Winnyace wrote:

Yeah, it seems I was out-of-date. They want/already added a kernel level anti-cheat to it.
they did and also they disabled some anti-cheat parts to let wine work

unfortunately due to the cheating vector, the parts were reenabled and now you can't roblox
Winnyace

z0z wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Yeah, it seems I was out-of-date. They want/already added a kernel level anti-cheat to it.
they did and also they disabled some anti-cheat parts to let wine work

unfortunately due to the cheating vector, the parts were reenabled and now you can't roblox
That sucks for the people who want to play the game. I'm not of them, personally, though, but I can see why they wouldn't be happy about it.
Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Yeah, it seems I was out-of-date. They want/already added a kernel level anti-cheat to it.
ah yes, the most competitive game known to mankind, and which requires the highest level of anticheats, roblox
z0z

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Yeah, it seems I was out-of-date. They want/already added a kernel level anti-cheat to it.
ah yes, the most competitive game known to mankind, and which requires the highest level of anticheats, roblox

you can certainly wreck things by exploits though


non-competition example
Patatitta
having random chaos is part of the fun when playing these type of multiplayer games, + as far as I know, roblox hacking isn't a particullary big problem that I have heard?, it absolutely doesn't need a kernel level anticheat
Winnyace
I am not in the position to comment on them adding a kernel level anti-cheat. I don't play the game and I quite honestly don't care about the game.
z0z

Patatitta wrote:

having random chaos is part of the fun when playing these type of multiplayer games, + as far as I know, roblox hacking isn't a particullary big problem that I have heard?, it absolutely doesn't need a kernel level anticheat
it's not but it's still a problem, at least to roblox

i also cherry-picked specific uses here where the goal is entertainment and not self-gain

it's still disrupting the original functioning of these games regardless of how good or bad they may be with outside unintended behavior
Reyalp51
is kernel anti-cheat like ghensin impact ccp virus kind of thing
Winnyace

Reyalp51 wrote:

is kernel anti-cheat like ghensin impact ccp virus kind of thing
What?
Reyalp51

Winnyace wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

is kernel anti-cheat like ghensin impact ccp virus kind of thing
What?
gensin's anti cheat, just seen if it was the same and it is
Winnyace

Reyalp51 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

is kernel anti-cheat like ghensin impact ccp virus kind of thing
What?
gensin's anti cheat, just seen if it was the same and it is
Genshin seems to be fine.
jaaakb

Winnyace wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

is kernel anti-cheat like ghensin impact ccp virus kind of thing
What?
yes. it might not be at the moment but any time you update it/game, it can become anything imaginable.

there's no control over the game files/installers by anyone that looks out for your interest, if it conflicts with ccp interest.
Patatitta

z0z wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

having random chaos is part of the fun when playing these type of multiplayer games, + as far as I know, roblox hacking isn't a particullary big problem that I have heard?, it absolutely doesn't need a kernel level anticheat
it's not but it's still a problem, at least to roblox

i also cherry-picked specific uses here where the goal is entertainment and not self-gain

it's still disrupting the original functioning of these games regardless of how good or bad they may be with outside unintended behavior
bro by that justification EVERY game warrants a kernel leavel anti-cheat
z0z

Patatitta wrote:

z0z wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

having random chaos is part of the fun when playing these type of multiplayer games, + as far as I know, roblox hacking isn't a particullary big problem that I have heard?, it absolutely doesn't need a kernel level anticheat
it's not but it's still a problem, at least to roblox

i also cherry-picked specific uses here where the goal is entertainment and not self-gain

it's still disrupting the original functioning of these games regardless of how good or bad they may be with outside unintended behavior
bro by that justification EVERY game warrants a kernel leavel anti-cheat
if the devs care enough/if keeping the original experience matters enough

idk ask roblox about it

personally i'd prefer if they didn't bother with the anti-cheat
BluePyTheDeer_
I now play Roblox on my really good phone, due to me not knowing how to install it on Linux or if it even works.
DeletedUser_2024727
copilot won't be the one to take over your computer, it gets offended if you're mean to it lmao. I'm not even joking, if you post something that's even vaguely controversial or contentious it will kill the chat entirely and force you to create a new one, which is pretty fucking stupid when you consider how memory works with these things. like, check this out.
https://i.imgur.com/xUdid5M.png

as far as what os is "better" and the whole consumer os war thing, for the vast majority of people here it doesn't rly matter what you use as long as it provides what you need in an os. listening to music on youtube and jerking off to anime catgirls is functionally the same experience on windows, linux, or mac. playing video games is slightly more of a hassle on linux but it's gotten much better in recent years. trite discussion. using kali linux as your main day to day os is kinda silly, but if it works it works.

I will say tho that windows 11 is so aggressively shitty and awful to work with on the admin/enterprise side of things that I am very strongly considering a career change into something other that system administration. I've administered xp, win7, and win10 environments throughout my career and it's been great, but each migration has brought new challenges and has wrested more and more control from administration. in the past I've agreed with this sentiment that microsoft has been cycling between "good os/bad os," ie xp good, vista bad, win7 good, win8 shit, win10 good, win11 shit, but I really believe this is where the cycle stops. whatever's next will be saas shit and that will be the point where I switch to linux fully, as I unfortunately need to keep one foot in the windows ecosystem for career purposes, at least until I finish my degree. whatever I do next it will be either database administration or devops.

if you work in an office, you will use a windows pc, that's pretty much a given. you're not going to get the tech-illiterate moron working in hr or accounting to know how to use even ubuntu without holding their hand until either you or they quit the company, and outfitting your environment entirely with apple products is prohibitively expensive. use linux for your backend servers, give a macbook to the creative on your team, keep the boomers and zoomers on windows.
Jarcrafted
I don't have copilot
Yippee
DeletedUser_2024727
at least chatgpt responds when you ask it if the united states deserved 9/11
Jarcrafted

xch00F wrote:

at least chatgpt responds when you ask it if the united states deserved 9/11
skull reaction
Topic Starter
abraker

xch00F wrote:

copilot won't be the one to take over your computer, it gets offended if you're mean to it lmao. I'm not even joking, if you post something that's even vaguely controversial or contentious it will kill the chat entirely and force you to create a new one, which is pretty fucking stupid when you consider how memory works with these things. like, check this out.
https://i.imgur.com/xUdid5M.png
You don't know it but it's pretending

Nuuskamuikkunen

xch00F wrote:

copilot won't be the one to take over your computer, it gets offended if you're mean to it lmao. I'm not even joking, if you post something that's even vaguely controversial or contentious it will kill the chat entirely and force you to create a new one, which is pretty fucking stupid when you consider how memory works with these things. like, check this out.
https://i.imgur.com/xUdid5M.png
I have had copilot end my conversation for way less than that. Basically anything that goes beyond the PG rating.
DeletedUser_2024727

abraker wrote:

xch00F wrote:

copilot won't be the one to take over your computer, it gets offended if you're mean to it lmao. I'm not even joking, if you post something that's even vaguely controversial or contentious it will kill the chat entirely and force you to create a new one, which is pretty fucking stupid when you consider how memory works with these things. like, check this out.
https://i.imgur.com/xUdid5M.png
You don't know it but it's pretending

I would have to look up successful prompt engineering to see if/how you can get around it, but at teh end of teh day it's a chatbot ai that's being developed for use in sterile corporate environments, it's almost certainly hardcoded to kill itself to avoid anything that could be controversial. our input into the free copilot is used to train copilot for 365 and it's probably a rly bad idea to let the ai you're offering to companies and government agencies be influenced by random ppl online asking it about slurs
BluePyTheDeer_
I don't have Copilot due to me using Linux as my main OS.
Espionage724

abraker wrote:

How do you know your PC is not secretly a terminator conspiring to kill you?

EZ: I know my computer's firmware, and I know my OS doesn't include wacky unpredictable AI :p

xch00F wrote:

at least chatgpt responds when you ask it if the united states deserved 9/11
Lmao that's a good way to end up on multiple lists :p
DeletedUser_2024727
that's alright, I've already talked to the cia agent assigned to monitor my ai chatbot history and assured him that I'm teaching chatgpt what irony is

was really hoping this would get copilot to close the chat
https://i.imgur.com/3O4Knol.png

edit: how the fuck do img bbcode tags work on this forum

wait wtf why did imgur block osu ips lmfao
Polyspora

Espionage724 wrote:

abraker wrote:

How do you know your PC is not secretly a terminator conspiring to kill you?

EZ: I know my computer's firmware, and I know my OS doesn't include wacky unpredictable AI :p

xch00F wrote:

at least chatgpt responds when you ask it if the united states deserved 9/11
Lmao that's a good way to end up on multiple lists :p
this guy use linux guys!!!!!!!!!!
BluePyTheDeer_

Polyspora wrote:

Espionage724 wrote:

abraker wrote:

How do you know your PC is not secretly a terminator conspiring to kill you?

EZ: I know my computer's firmware, and I know my OS doesn't include wacky unpredictable AI :p

xch00F wrote:

at least chatgpt responds when you ask it if the united states deserved 9/11
Lmao that's a good way to end up on multiple lists :p
this guy use linux guys!!!!!!!!!!
Well now I use Kubuntu as my main OS
lostsilver

xch00F wrote:

that's alright, I've already talked to the cia agent assigned to monitor my ai chatbot history and assured him that I'm teaching chatgpt what irony is

was really hoping this would get copilot to close the chat
https://i.imgur.com/3O4Knol.png

edit: how the fuck do img bbcode tags work on this forum

wait wtf why did imgur block osu ips lmfao
you can't use imgur for images on here anymore
you have to use catbox.moe, imgbb, postimg, or filegarden
Winnyace

Espionage724 wrote:

abraker wrote:

How do you know your PC is not secretly a terminator conspiring to kill you?

EZ: I know my computer's firmware, and I know my OS doesn't include wacky unpredictable AI :p

You switched to a FOSS BIOS?
DeletedUser_32597938

lostsilver wrote:

xch00F wrote:

that's alright, I've already talked to the cia agent assigned to monitor my ai chatbot history and assured him that I'm teaching chatgpt what irony is

was really hoping this would get copilot to close the chat
https://i.imgur.com/3O4Knol.png

edit: how the fuck do img bbcode tags work on this forum

wait wtf why did imgur block osu ips lmfao
you can't use imgur for images on here anymore
you have to use catbox.moe, imgbb, postimg, or filegarden
catbox.moe no longer works
sametdze
Patatitta

cr0w wrote:

lostsilver wrote:

xch00F wrote:

that's alright, I've already talked to the cia agent assigned to monitor my ai chatbot history and assured him that I'm teaching chatgpt what irony is

was really hoping this would get copilot to close the chat
https://i.imgur.com/3O4Knol.png

edit: how the fuck do img bbcode tags work on this forum

wait wtf why did imgur block osu ips lmfao
you can't use imgur for images on here anymore
you have to use catbox.moe, imgbb, postimg, or filegarden
catbox.moe no longer works
this is missinformation, I always put images using catbox and it has never failed me
BluePyTheDeer_
How to uninstall Copilot:
myangelkonata

Patatitta wrote:

B0ii wrote:

me who still has windows 10: :D
that is a windows 10 screenshot, I still use 10 and have it too
Should've stayed on 8.1 or hell even 7. Well it's too late to go back now.
Ymir
I was forced into 11.
Polyspora

Ymir wrote:

I was forced into 11.
I updated to 11. fear me.
BluePyTheDeer_
I wanna use Arch btw
Polyspora
does anyone have a windows 7 mirror
DeletedUser_2024727

Polyspora wrote:

does anyone have a windows 7 mirror
like an iso? I should have a valid iso laying around somewhere, lemme check

edit: here u go
https://archive.org/details/win-7-pro-32-64-iso
reffty_gag
me a windows 7 user : :D :D
Corne2Plum3

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
I can't imagine the amount of viruses you can get
BluePyTheDeer_

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
I can't imagine the amount of viruses you can get
ikr
Winnyace

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
Please move to something that is still actively supported and in active development.
Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
Please move to something that is still actively supported and in active development.
coward. Let's go back to windows XP
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
Please move to something that is still actively supported and in active development.
coward. Let's go back to windows XP
fuck you I am installing Hanna Montana Linux
myangelkonata

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
Please move to something that is still actively supported and in active development.
coward. Let's go back to windows XP
fuck you I am installing Hanna Montana Linux
Fuck that, UwUntu. No that's not a misspelling, it's a real thing.

Oh, better yet, Wubuntu.
Winnyace

great_elmo wrote:

Oh, better yet, Wubuntu.
Oh god, no. Please. Please don't. Any distro you want, ANY, but not that one.

Corne2Plum3

great_elmo wrote:

Oh, better yet, Wubuntu.
Bad idea, see video above my post
BluePyTheDeer_
Use the true distro, TempleOS
Winnyace

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

Use the true distro, TempleOS
Not Linux
BluePyTheDeer_
Forgor *💀
Polyspora
does xp have support to the x64 structure?
Winnyace

Polyspora wrote:

does xp have support to the x64 structure?
Yes. 64-bit CPUs released at the tail end of Windows XP IIRC, so they have some support for them, but not sure how well it is.
clayton
I've actually been secretly conspiring to kill my PC.
Winnyace

clayton wrote:

I've actually been secretly conspiring to kill my PC.
send us a picture after you have set it on fire or whatever you want to do to kill your PC
BluePyTheDeer_
I use Arch btw
Winnyace

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

I use Arch btw
very cool, but no one really cares
Topic Starter
abraker

clayton wrote:

I've actually been secretly conspiring to kill my PC.
I hope you posted that using your smart phone because otherwise 💀
BluePyTheDeer_

Winnyace wrote:

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

I use Arch btw
very cool, but no one really cares
I know, I just posted so you know.
Avian dinosaur

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The solution I've using for years which does well:



If you want something close to Windows get Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Fedora, idk whatever, with KDE plasma desktop environment. It kinda looks like windows but more customizable
Haha flightless

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
I can't imagine the amount of viruses you can get
Because those virii are more likely to go after industrial machinery with very old software, rather certain organization computer systems like hospitals in less populous eastern european towns, kiosks or god forbid municipality servers than some motherfucker staying with out-of-support OS
BluePyTheDeer_
For Arch-based distro users: Do you recommend Manjaro?
Nuuskamuikkunen

reffty_gag wrote:

me a windows 7 user : :D :D
why
Winnyace

BluePyTheWDeer_ wrote:

For Arch-based distro users: Do you recommend Manjaro?
No. https://manjarno.pages.dev/

It seems things might have picked up, but no. You want Arch? Just install it with archinstall or get EndeavourOS or Garuda and move on.
z0z

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The solution I've using for years which does well:



If you want something close to Windows get Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Fedora, idk whatever, with KDE plasma desktop environment. It kinda looks like windows but more customizable
Haha flightless
quack
Karmine

z0z wrote:

Avian dinosaur wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

The solution I've using for years which does well:



If you want something close to Windows get Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, Fedora, idk whatever, with KDE plasma desktop environment. It kinda looks like windows but more customizable
Haha flightless
quack
The G.O.A.T. And Your M.O.M. - Quack Like a Duck
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