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Henyo, me please (´^ω^)
Yes do me pls
Me lel
Hi
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Henyo Ymir!Ymir wrote:
Henyo, me please (´^ω^)
honestly, since the beginning, you've never been a troublemaker or the nicest person in the world. you always say what you really think and what you like or dislike and, adding the fact that you haven't really changed before changing your username from -Remi to Ymir, i think that's very sincere of you. keep up the good work young man.
honestly, the first days when i joined the forum, you were an average furry mapper like many others, but i've noticed that you were the one who made the famous Galaxy Collaps that's always played in multiplayer. you also makes very interesting skins so it really shows that you invested in the game. you weren't even in the GMT back then so it's nice to see you investing your time in the forum.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Yes do me pls
(unrelated i wanted to mutual you back then, but you ignored me so i hated you for it 💀)
i don't even remember the first time i really met you. i think you've came back from a long break or something like that but i don't know when (i don't even know if what i'm saying is true). obviously, the first thing i saw was your number of posts, but then i noticed that you were only posting in the Español subforum so i wasn't surprised after.Serraionga wrote:
but yeah, in OT i basically see you as the mememaker who always posts random things to make everyone laugh. sometimes it's very funny, but you can also be a bit obnoxious ngl... well, it's not really a problem since you're here to have fun and i respect that. we need more people like you in OT!
おはいよアナックシー！
here we go again. me
I cant read katakana ;-;MistressRemilia wrote:
おはいよアナックシー！
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i won't lie here, i wasn't really interested in you in the beginning because you haven't caught my attention. you were always active in discord like Ymir or Polyspora so i thought you were here to chill around like them. then, thanks to a thread made by Manishh (i'm sure that you remember lol), i began to talk to you in DM and it turns out that you were actually friendly and supportive!My Angel Anaxii wrote:
Me lel
still to this day, we frequently talk on discord and, even though sometimes it's complicated, you're always showing your good and caring to me and it's always so sweet! you're the only one (with Rezq Gokou) with who i can talk about anything and you will still care no matter what <3
ngl it's kind of the same problem as Serraionga: i don't actually know when i started interacting with you in the forum. i feel like you suddenly appeared at the end of 2023 by posting interesting and controversial posts in OT. you always have a critical view of everything you see on the internet and sometimes, you indulge in the delirium this subforum has to offer. we can really see that you're trying to raise the quality of OT posts and just for that, it already means a lot.Patatitta wrote:
community/forums/topics/1889285?n=40igorsprite wrote:
Hi
me please!
Well this is a pleasant surprise, I expected to get completely cooked. Thanks for the kind words.Anaxii wrote:
Ymir wrote:
Henyo, me please (´^ω^)Henyo Ymir!
honestly, since the beginning, you've never been a troublemaker or the nicest person in the world. you always say what you really think and what you like or dislike and, adding the fact that you haven't really changed before changing your username from -Remi to Ymir, i think that's very sincere of you. keep up the good work young man.
me! XD
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you're a very new person here, but i always have this feeling that you were there for years. when i was new in the forum, it was hard for me to understand all the bbcodes while you're already using the [centre] and [color] thingy as if you knew everything. i would like to know you even more because so far, you're just chilling around here and in your nanako profile!MistressRemilia wrote:
おはいよアナックシー！
i don't actually know how to discribe you. you're like extremely invested in the whole OT lore but i feel like you're doing too much sometimes. it's interesting to see your posts because it shows that there's effort that's been put in. everytime i think about OT, you're always one of the first people i think of. i still remember the OT Minecraft server you used to host back then, it was amazing. keep up the good work young man.Manishh wrote:
here we go again. me
since the first moment i met you in the forum, you were always showing your cheerfulness to anyone and it hasn't changed at all. people who know you less will say that you're just a very good artist, but people used to the forum will say that you're also active and open-minded (even though you often overdo your reactions). i have nothing else to say other than keep up the good work and continue spreading your positivity in this lost place!lostsilver wrote:
me please!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank youu <333333Anaxii wrote:
since the first moment i met you in the forum, you were always showing your cheerfulness to anyone and it hasn't changed at all. people who know you less will say that you're just a very good artist, but people used to the forum will say that you're also active and open-minded (even though you often overdo your reactions). i have nothing else to say other than keep up the good work and continue spreading your positivity in this lost place!lostsilver wrote:
me please!
My chat/DMs are always openAnaxii wrote:
you're a very new person here, but i always have this feeling that you were there for years. when i was new in the forum, it was hard for me to understand all the bbcodes while you're already using the [centre] and [color] thingy as if you knew everything. i would like to know you even more because so far, you're just chilling around here and in your nanako profile!MistressRemilia wrote:
おはいよアナックシー！
I'm just awkward af when it comes to starting conversations.I used bbcodes on other forums, so I guess I'm just used to them.
Awwwwww im glad we have great times together <33333333333Anaxii wrote:
i won't lie here, i wasn't really interested in you in the beginning because you haven't caught my attention. you were always active in discord like Ymir or Polyspora so i thought you were here to chill around like them. then, thanks to a thread made by Manishh (i'm sure that you remember lol), i began to talk to you in DM and it turns out that you were actually friendly and supportive!My Angel Anaxii wrote:
Me lel
still to this day, we frequently talk on discord and, even though sometimes it's complicated, you're always showing your good and caring to me and it's always so sweet! you're the only one (with Rezq Gokou) with who i can talk about anything and you will still care no matter what <3
Hi.
hello
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me and like most of us here began to know you as soon as you started "hacking" the forum with your capability of using the bbcodes and ChatGPT to entertain us. you're extremely underrated here and i hope you'll get noticed for the threads you made in OT that are almost all mind-blowing. you're also not too boring or obnoxious so i hope one day your hard work in this wasted place will pay off~Behrauder wrote:
Me!
somehow i have nothing negative or positive to say about you other than your passion for cars is very great. you're like an average forum poster who likes pokemon and anime.Hydreigon wrote:
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
hey you it's been a while! you were a bit active in the forum back then but not anymore, what happened?emajakolic wrote:
me! XD
from what i can remember, you were always that kind of person to always overreact her reactions in a non-annoying way, exactly like me when i first joined the forum. it seems like you haven't changed even after so many months spent in OT. i wish you we more present here, keep up the good work girl!
(also it reminds me that i asked you to make me the same signature as yours back then but somehow we both abandoned this project 💀)
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ohhhhhh alright then it explains everything lolMistressRemilia wrote:
My chat/DMs are always openAnaxii wrote:
you're a very new person here, but i always have this feeling that you were there for years. when i was new in the forum, it was hard for me to understand all the bbcodes while you're already using the [centre] and [color] thingy as if you knew everything. i would like to know you even more because so far, you're just chilling around here and in your nanako profile!MistressRemilia wrote:
おはいよアナックシー！
I used bbcodes on other forums, so I guess I'm just used to them.
i am way more interested in your opinion about slovenia
me!
electric boogaloo
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actually i tried to interact with you several times but i feel like you're always distant no matter what. i would like to know you more because you seem like an interesting person.cephaphysic wrote:
does the black moon howl?
i used to see you all the time in the help subforum helping unaware folks in the need. i kind of wish you were in the global support team, but i feel like you kind of gave up that goal and instead spend your time in OT spamming that infamous hashtag for fun. you're like an aggressive-passive person, which means that you can act serious one time but act like a troll the other time, and i think that's funny lol- Marco - wrote:
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i wish i could degrade you, but you're not weird enough to earn my negative reviews of you so i'll say that you're a well respected emoticon here. keep up the good work young man.B0ii wrote:
degrade me
Brace yourselves.keremaru wrote:
yourself
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it's hard to tell actually. you've never been a bad person deep down, but i feel like i'm pissing you off almost all the time. it doesn't make me want to talk to you at all because i'm scared that you'll be annoyed because of my presence.Karmine wrote:
i always saw you as the guy from the GMT who likes anime in general, but you're a normal person overall so i hope that you'll keep up the good work with the nonsense that some people frequently post here.Kobold84 wrote:
Hi.
everytime i see you i'm like "hey it's one of the close friends of lostsilver" rather than "hey it's the taiko no tatsujin guy" and it's quite funny. i always think of your remixes as well and how intense they are. you also message me everytime you posted a remix and i'm always here to see what you have to offer. you two are making a great pair and i can't wait for what you have cooked for us~npc_BeaniCraft wrote:
hello
MREOW ITS NY TIMNE
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you're the bulgarian who sometimes post in OT right? it's quite rare to see you around so i hope to see you more in the forum.burgernfat wrote:
i am way more interested in your opinion about slovenia
you kind of remind me of an american version of MrMcMikey22. this guy loves to share his tomfoolery and post things that are illogically interesting (or just illogical period). i have nothing else to say other that keep investing here like you did witht the Cool Party because that's what's terribly lacking in OT: entertainment.MaxIsABigKaiju wrote:
me!
you're like one of if not the current best standard player, but you're also one of if not the person who sends the most useless posts here. that's what i noticed when you're in OT, but lately you kind of stopped posting weird threads that get locked pretty quickly, which is ok... but yeah, i kind of miss the days where you're invested into OT!Book. apart from that, you're a chill guy so keep up the good work young man.DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:
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looking at your 11 years old posts, i feel like you haven't changed at all during all these years. you're still chilling around in different subforums saying what you're thinking without too much complicated thoughts (which is btw the complete opposite of me). but unironically, i don't know you very well even though you've been here for a while.ColdTooth wrote:
electric boogaloo
keremaru wrote:
yourself
hey you're the guy who's #3 in Thread Necromancy right? that's good to see you there... but unfortunately i don't know you at all. we're not even mutual which is weird. i hope that you'll be more active in OT!GIoxSM_J962 wrote:
"Queueing is a big sign of civilization and courtesy."
- Some guy when I was buying pizza
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
yourself it's crazy to see you always using the same bbcodes for all your posts. literally everyone knows you because of that and that's quite epic. but yeah you seem like a cool person ngl, keep up the good work.
in any case, you can thank cynp-zy for my constant formatting
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to be honest before your "for every post on this thread, i will memorize a digit of pi" thread, i didn't know you at all. it's quite insane to see you memorizing more than 700 digits and i congratulate you for that. other than that, i don't see you anywhere so it's like the same problem as GIoxSM_J962 (except that we're mutual). i hope if the thread ends that you'll be more present in other topics made by the community.aiq wrote:
you've been in OT for quite a while now and i don't why i always feel like you're new here. it's not related to the fact that you're part of the project loved team, more like that i see you more in the Help subforum like - Marco - trying to help young and lost folks. seeing you switch between the seriousness you put in Help and the madness that is OT is quite funny. keep up the good young man!Blushing wrote:
MREOW ITS NY TIMNE
i've always thought of you as the most neutral person here. i don't really have a positive or negative opinion of you so... keep up the good work i guess?z0z wrote:
ego tester
Yeah I overdo a lot of time since my motivation is more like a sudden outburst of energy. Thanks for the kind message, I wish you the sameAnaxii wrote:
i don't actually know how to discribe you. you're like extremely invested in the whole OT lore but i feel like you're doing too much sometimes. it's interesting to see your posts because it shows that there's effort that's been put in. everytime i think about OT, you're always one of the first people i think of. i still remember the OT Minecraft server you used to host back then, it was amazing. keep up the good work young man.Manishh wrote:
here we go again. me
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it's complicated to tell as well. you seem like a really kind and chill guy overall, but you're not active at all so we literally have no chance of talking to each other. i don't know if you'd like me to DM you about literally anything since i'm worried that you will respond very late.ShinRun wrote:
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keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
yourself it's crazy to see you always using the same bbcodes for all your posts. literally everyone knows you because of that and that's quite epic. but yeah you seem like a cool person ngl, keep up the good work. no i literally meant a self-evaluation
in any case, you can thank cynp-zy for my constant formatting
what's cynp-zy btw?
I feel your pain. I was also used to be called 'OT guy' by random people 😔sametdze wrote:
let's go i get another "oh yeah you're the train guy"
There is nothing we can do
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well, you're known inside (and outisde) OT for being a fan of trains so i kind of understand why people call you like that, but it's clear that you have other interests after seeing you here for quite a while now. i feel like you also share a part of your life in this place by posting what's on your mind or what you've been through. overall you're just here to chill around so keep it that way boy!sametdze wrote:
let's go i get another "oh yeah you're the train guy"
i'm childish ;w;
now this.. this made me smile.Anaxii wrote:
well, you're known inside (and outisde) OT for being a fan of trains so i kind of understand why people call you like that, but it's clear that you have other interests after seeing you here for quite a while now. i feel like you also share a part of your life in this place by posting what's on your mind or what you've been through. overall you're just here to chill around so keep it that way boy!sametdze wrote:
let's go i get another "oh yeah you're the train guy"
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i had to change the title since for some reason, this has become a trend now 💀
looking at your post, you probably expect me to say that you're a child and that you should keep up the good work, but it's more advanced than that. i can see that you really try to put effort into most posts you make in OT with your drawing skill, and i actually think you're one of the only users to do that in this subforum. here i'm not talking about quality, more about the dedication you put into your comics or animated series in order to entertain people, and i think that's pretty dope!MrMcMikey22 wrote:
i'm childish ;w;
i gotta be honest here, i only see you lurking around in OT and reacting to posts. i feel like you blend into the crowd when it comes to stand out from the pack, but at least you're not too disturbing or hyperactive in this crazy place so keep up the good work young man.Polyspora wrote:
opinion
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i don't know why but i feel like you and i haven't really talked to each other about something. like we both listen to k-pop (Stray Kids on TOP) and we like anime but i never thought of starting a conversation with you somehow. compared to me who draw something once every month, you're also good and consistent artist like lostsilver. i'm sure you're a chill person like many others in the subforum so let me know if you're interested in a talk to talk![ Rynn ] wrote:
hello
Anaxii wrote:
it's complicated to tell as well. you seem like a really kind and chill guy overall, but you're not active at all so we literally have no chance of talking to each other. i don't know if you'd like me to DM you about literally anything since i'm worried that you will respond very late.ShinRun wrote:
ᡣ • . • 𐭩 ♡keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
yourself it's crazy to see you always using the same bbcodes for all your posts. literally everyone knows you because of that and that's quite epic. but yeah you seem like a cool person ngl, keep up the good work. no i literally meant a self-evaluation
in any case, you can thank cynp-zy for my constant formattinghummm... well i'd say i'm a very strange person overall lol
what's cynp-zy btw?
Cynplytholowazy wrote:
abraker is now vtuber?
Cynplytholowazy wrote:
My life is fulfilled
Cynplytholowazy wrote:
KatouMegumi wrote:
Oh no I wished the battery is 69%
Cynplytholowazy wrote:
Apart from challenges I sleep properly
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keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
it's complicated to tell as well. you seem like a really kind and chill guy overall, but you're not active at all so we literally have no chance of talking to each other. i don't know if you'd like me to DM you about literally anything since i'm worried that you will respond very late.ShinRun wrote:
ᡣ • . • 𐭩 ♡keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
yourself it's crazy to see you always using the same bbcodes for all your posts. literally everyone knows you because of that and that's quite epic. but yeah you seem like a cool person ngl, keep up the good work. no i literally meant a self-evaluation
in any case, you can thank cynp-zy for my constant formattinghummm... well i'd say i'm a very strange person overall lol
what's cynp-zy btw?-> Cynplytholowazy wrote:
abraker is now vtuber?Cynplytholowazy wrote:
My life is fulfilled Cynplytholowazy wrote:
KatouMegumi wrote:
Oh no I wished the battery is 69% Cynplytholowazy wrote:
Apart from challenges I sleep properly
yeah, i'm kinda burned out atm. so i'm staying here until i have more willing to lurk more there lolAnaxii wrote:
i used to see you all the time in the help subforum helping unaware folks in the need. i kind of wish you were in the global support team, but i feel like you kind of gave up that goal and instead spend your time in OT spamming that infamous hashtag for fun. you're like an aggressive-passive person, which means that you can act serious one time but act like a troll the other time, and i think that's funny lol- Marco - wrote:
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm doing it since idk 2013/2014 and there's nothing that really motivates me to go on, i would love to have some kind of recognition...thing like a CC badge that others helpers had but there's nothing for me so idk until i have something that really motivates me to keep going i'm taking a not-really-a-pause
You'll get there.- Marco - wrote:
yeah, i'm kinda burned out atm. so i'm staying here until i have more willing to lurk more there lolAnaxii wrote:
i used to see you all the time in the help subforum helping unaware folks in the need. i kind of wish you were in the global support team, but i feel like you kind of gave up that goal and instead spend your time in OT spamming that infamous hashtag for fun. you're like an aggressive-passive person, which means that you can act serious one time but act like a troll the other time, and i think that's funny lol- Marco - wrote:
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm doing it since idk 2013/2014 and there's nothing that really motivates me to go on, i would love to have some kind of recognition...thing like a CC badge that others helpers had but there's nothing for me so idk until i have something that really motivates me to keep going i'm taking a not-really-a-pause
THANKS KOBOLD!!!!!!!!!! WARM WORDS MAKE ME HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ME GO TO SLEEP HAPPY!!!!!!!!!! THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Kobold84 wrote:
You'll get there.- Marco - wrote:
yeah, i'm kinda burned out atm. so i'm staying here until i have more willing to lurk more there lolAnaxii wrote:
i used to see you all the time in the help subforum helping unaware folks in the need. i kind of wish you were in the global support team, but i feel like you kind of gave up that goal and instead spend your time in OT spamming that infamous hashtag for fun. you're like an aggressive-passive person, which means that you can act serious one time but act like a troll the other time, and i think that's funny lol- Marco - wrote:
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!
TWO!TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm doing it since idk 2013/2014 and there's nothing that really motivates me to go on, i would love to have some kind of recognition...thing like a CC badge that others helpers had but there's nothing for me so idk until i have something that really motivates me to keep going i'm taking a not-really-a-pause
alr
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what i know for sure is that i don't see you anywhere else except in OT or on discord rarely. sometimes you post gif and funny stuff here and that's very funny. don't ever change calvinli, you're necessary here!Asian Warlord wrote:
i used to see you for a bit in Thread Necromancy but apart from that, you don't seem too active here. i wish i could see you more often like most of people here. also, now that you changed your profile picture, i always associate you with Asian Warlord because of Travis Scott (one of my fav rappers) and Drake (the man to woman).Apraxye wrote:
smh, stealing my gif
since the beginning, i always see you in Forum Games and occasionally in the "I will draw whatever you want" made by Dementedduck in the Art subforum. even though you're active in other subforums, you're relatively present in OT if there's a trend or an event going on. you sound like a good guy, hope to see you more here.Farfocele wrote:
alr
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i originally wanted to say that you're just a troll who posts strange things on OT for fun, but recently you've also been posting those interesting edits that actualy do views on youtube short. even though you shitpost quite often to the point that i often compared you with lotaku, i can't to see you doing more stuff like this. keep up the good work young man.Scyla wrote:
Gay
i know it will sound cliché but for me you're everything that represents the new generation of this subforum. it's funny to see you overreacting because that's what keeps OT alive: a concentrate of little seriousness for more enjoyement. you're also very active and present, but not only here, also in other subforums like Music Hall or Forum Games as if you were in the forum for quite a while. hope you'll keep on shining here little boy!Pillowey wrote:
Dang, a new trend, I see.
awww, how sweet, thank you! ^^Anaxii wrote:
i know it will sound cliché but for me you're everything that represents the new generation of this subforum. it's funny to see you overreacting because that's what keeps OT alive: a concentrate of little seriousness for more enjoyement. you're also very active and present, but not only here, also in other subforums like Music Hall or Forum Games as if you were in the forum for quite a while. hope you'll keep on shining here little boy!
awww thank you!! :D well, I'm less active here because I'm busy and yeah, nothing crazy happened.Anaxii wrote:
hey you it's been a while! you were a bit active in the forum back then but not anymore, what happened?emajakolic wrote:
me! XD
from what i can remember, you were always that kind of person to always overreact her reactions in a non-annoying way, exactly like me when i first joined the forum. it seems like you haven't changed even after so many months spent in OT. i wish you we more present here, keep up the good work girl!
(also it reminds me that i asked you to make me the same signature as yours back then but somehow we both abandoned this project 💀)
and about the signature.. jesus fucking christ I'm so sorry I forgot about it. I started looking for pictures right away but I had trouble finding good ones and I had to go offline anyway and I wanted to do it the next day and so I forgot
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it's fine! the signature you made me for me is INCREDIBLE <33333333333emajakolic wrote:
awww thank you!! :D well, I'm less active here because I'm busy and yeah, nothing crazy happened.Anaxii wrote:
hey you it's been a while! you were a bit active in the forum back then but not anymore, what happened?emajakolic wrote:
me! XD
from what i can remember, you were always that kind of person to always overreact her reactions in a non-annoying way, exactly like me when i first joined the forum. it seems like you haven't changed even after so many months spent in OT. i wish you we more present here, keep up the good work girl!
(also it reminds me that i asked you to make me the same signature as yours back then but somehow we both abandoned this project 💀)
and about the signature.. jesus fucking christ I'm so sorry I forgot about it. I started looking for pictures right away but I had trouble finding good ones and I had to go offline anyway and I wanted to do it the next day and so I forgot
even though you've been here for quite a while now, i always feel like you're still someone new in OT. i see you sometimes in Forum Games but that's it. i have to say though, i began to take an interest in you as soon as i gave the 1 year of supporter on a random game i've organized because i had too much money to spend. despite the fact that you often lack self-confidence due to criticism, i sincerely believe that you're among the chillest ones here, and that's simply good for me.Rhythm32 wrote:
Hmm 🤔. I have to see this.
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
it's complicated to tell as well. you seem like a really kind and chill guy overall, but you're not active at all so we literally have no chance of talking to each other. i don't know if you'd like me to DM you about literally anything since i'm worried that you will respond very late.ShinRun wrote:
ᡣ • . • 𐭩 ♡keremaru wrote:
Anaxii wrote:
keremaru wrote:
yourself it's crazy to see you always using the same bbcodes for all your posts. literally everyone knows you because of that and that's quite epic. but yeah you seem like a cool person ngl, keep up the good work. no i literally meant a self-evaluation
in any case, you can thank cynp-zy for my constant formattinghummm... well i'd say i'm a very strange person overall lol
what's cynp-zy btw?-> Cynplytholowazy wrote:
abraker is now vtuber?Cynplytholowazy wrote:
My life is fulfilled Cynplytholowazy wrote:
KatouMegumi wrote:
Oh no I wished the battery is 69% Cynplytholowazy wrote:
Apart from challenges I sleep properly LMAO I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EXTENSION OR SOMETHING 💀
all i need is copy-paste
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! :DAnaxii wrote:
it's fine! the signature you made me for me is INCREDIBLE <33333333333emajakolic wrote:
awww thank you!! :D well, I'm less active here because I'm busy and yeah, nothing crazy happened.Anaxii wrote:
hey you it's been a while! you were a bit active in the forum back then but not anymore, what happened?emajakolic wrote:
me! XD
from what i can remember, you were always that kind of person to always overreact her reactions in a non-annoying way, exactly like me when i first joined the forum. it seems like you haven't changed even after so many months spent in OT. i wish you we more present here, keep up the good work girl!
(also it reminds me that i asked you to make me the same signature as yours back then but somehow we both abandoned this project 💀)
and about the signature.. jesus fucking christ I'm so sorry I forgot about it. I started looking for pictures right away but I had trouble finding good ones and I had to go offline anyway and I wanted to do it the next day and so I forgot