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A response to OT: 2 years and half years in

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Winnyace
I make this thread for two reasons:
  1. To finally move on from this entire thing, personally;
  2. To hopefully show to a member here that has decided to cut ties with me after what I did in that thread that I'm actually planning to change in a healthier direction.
I will say my full opinion on this matter in the most mature way I can. After this, I will completely move on from the thread and I did in it and outside of it. I would like to ask the GMTs to not immediately delete this post/lock it, unless it again spirals out of control (which I doubt it will happen).

Patatitta's thread, in my eyes, is more or less a cry for OT to change, that came from someone who fundamentally believes saying out loud what they think, on a constant basis, is a sign of a healthy community. The problem with this is two fold.

There's nothing connecting anyone here to each other. The only thing that connects us is the game itself, which is very rarely mentioned here and when it is, it is done by an outsider, almost every time. As a result, the people of this sub-forum have sparse, often conflicting interests. Patatitta believes this would make it so OT would be an argumentative ground, but it isn't. It is overwhelming positive. I believe this is in part due to many of them simply not being interested in fighting tooth and nail for the positions they have. Most people here, myself included at least most of the time, don't want to "fight". They just want to chill and have fun, which also why I believe the thread quality is so low and why threads that actively try to include others in it are so liked. There's more to it, but from this point, I believe it starts to become more and more personal, which isn't important for this context.

A community of individuals doesn't need constant opinion pieces on everything in order to be healthy. Look at the Minecraft community: Most people you would see online that talk about the game are really bitter about it and they actively hate it, part because of Mojang, but part because of the community itself fueled itself negativity after negativity. It's fine to discuss about things, but constantly doing so, especially in a setting like this where there's nothing for you to connect what you're reading with listening with another person. As a result, constantly arguing about stuff has lead to the current internet, a place extremely polarized and hostile. OT is more or less a refugee camp, since it is mostly obscure, with regulars here knowing each other's name, being easy to come in and chat as well. I believe individuals here just want to chill. It's not that they're drama averse, it's that they simply believe it isn't important to constantly be polarizing.

With this, I will end what I said. I apologize, again, for the overreaction to that thread. I hope that this year will be the year I will finally deal with my own bullshit.
Reyalp51
I agree
ClevelandsMyBro
what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore
Aireunaeus

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore
a thread where potato boy told the truth
Topic Starter
Winnyace

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore
community/forums/topics/1867449?n=1
Ymir

My Angel Anaxii wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore
a thread where potato boy told the truth
A desire isn't a truth.
Aireunaeus

Ymir wrote:

My Angel Anaxii wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

what thread you talking about dawg i havent being keeping up with the ot lore
a thread where potato boy told the truth
A desire isn't a truth.
wait lemme rephrase that ig lol

a thread where potato boy told his honest opinion on what ot is.

btw i agree what winny says. it doesnt matter if ot ar actin like npcs. after all noone cares lul
Patatitta
you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread
Topic Starter
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread
Your last sentence gives everything away honestly: "You were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about and were yourself in the thread". You genuinely seem to believe that arguing about your position on something, anything, makes you better or special than someone who doesn't. There are simply way too many reasons why someone would just not say anything about something. Calling people like those NPCs is, in my opinion, straight up toxic.

You say everybody on OT acts the same. Do they? There particularities in each individual here, in my eyes. It's just that they're very subtile. lostsilver, who I'm sure is on your list of people here that are "NPCs", seems to just want people to be happy and wants to just have a good time here, not argue about shit. I didn't see her/him at all in that thread and often times just says she doesn't hold any opinion on my daily questions thread.

Everything you said, from your thread to this point I'm replying to, circles around the idea that arguing about one's position makes that individual "a non-NPC". It really gives off the smells of that. Even if they're a NPC, what's exactly wrong with that? You very likely don't even know if this is their fake side or their real side, based on what they say in a public forum. You only make those assumptions based on your apparent core idea of what makes someone an individual unique.

As for the lie you said exists here, I can only talk about myself here and personally, I just don't care. I never really cared for it, besides the one time I tried to become "the president of OT". I failed miserably and at the time I was hurt, but now I realize it isn't important in the slightest compared to losing a friend, even if he is an online one.
Topic Starter
Winnyace
Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.
Reyalp51

Winnyace wrote:

Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.
He is not saying we must behave like that, he is saying that we should. He isnt trying to change people, he is just saying that we should be more open about negativity
Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread
Your last sentence gives everything away honestly: "You were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about and were yourself in the thread". You genuinely seem to believe that arguing about your position on something, anything, makes you better or special than someone who doesn't. There are simply way too many reasons why someone would just not say anything about something. Calling people like those NPCs is, in my opinion, straight up toxic.

You say everybody on OT acts the same. Do they? There particularities in each individual here, in my eyes. It's just that they're very subtile. lostsilver, who I'm sure is on your list of people here that are "NPCs", seems to just want people to be happy and wants to just have a good time here, not argue about shit. I didn't see her/him at all in that thread and often times just says she doesn't hold any opinion on my daily questions thread.

Everything you said, from your thread to this point I'm replying to, circles around the idea that arguing about one's position makes that individual "a non-NPC". It really gives off the smells of that. Even if they're a NPC, what's exactly wrong with that? You very likely don't even know if this is their fake side or their real side, based on what they say in a public forum. You only make those assumptions based on your apparent core idea of what makes someone an individual unique.

As for the lie you said exists here, I can only talk about myself here and personally, I just don't care. I never really cared for it, besides the one time I tried to become "the president of OT". I failed miserably and at the time I was hurt, but now I realize it isn't important in the slightest compared to losing a friend, even if he is an online one.

Yes, not all NPC's are carbon copy of each other, thing is, they're all based on the same principles, and those principles bring toxicity and creates massive echo chambers inside OT.

Again, as I say, thing like "respecting OT lore" while completely not doing this, being so positive that the praise you give can hurt other people, people just being afraid of giving their own personal opinion on things because "Oh I will form a disscussion and people will hate me for it"

Also, lostsilver is fine since they're a child, the things i'm more worried about are stuff like the NO SWEARING THREAD and just people not reading my thread and going "but we still love you <3333333", like, you're trying to act positive and say that you care about me while also not reading my threads and hearing me out, that is straight up lying and can hurt people. My point is that by just being more understasnding in OT to different opinions and being honest with the things we care and do not care in OT, we can create a BETTER environment, not just everyone acting with the same 3 principles which are actually damaging

I say you're fine because you DON'T follow those principles and aren't afraid of actually saying whatever you want, even if you get a little bit too angry sometimes

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT users, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life
z0z
i'll rather not walk into a reddit/twitter-tier forum when 2024 inevitably goes to shit
sametdze
i think most people on OT don't want to be open about negativity because shit like this happens
Kobold84
Reyalp51

Kobold84 wrote:

Cute gif
Topic Starter
Winnyace

Patatitta wrote:

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT users, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life
Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.
Topic Starter
Winnyace

Reyalp51 wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Let's just agree to disagree on this. If you don't like it here, go find a place where people aren't NPCs, as you say.
He is not saying we must behave like that, he is saying that we should. He isnt trying to change people, he is just saying that we should be more open about negativity
I don't think anyone here really opposites it, it's just that no one starts it.
Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT users, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life
Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.
thing is that instead of just totally ignoring me, they just still act like if like really cool and that I should not listen to the people and etc etc, something which I did not deserve, If i'm toxic, I want people to call me out and not put up with my shit, not just people trying to ignore it and act like if i'm cool because they dont want to have bad vibes with me
Topic Starter
Winnyace
The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.
sametdze

Winnyace wrote:

The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.
i agree with this. i honestly thought patatita's negativity thread was a joke ngl
Patatitta

sametdze wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

The way OT is seen makes it so very few people get taken seriously here, I think.
i agree with this. i honestly thought patatita's negativity thread was a joke ngl
nah that thread was in fact a joke, at least half of it

with me being an asshole I mean like me making that entire fandom thread to really call out the people that were posting about FNAF and now BFDI and that sort of stuff, people like anaxii which I call out every single other day still has to really defend themselves or tell me to stop insulting them every other day, stuff like my 2 years and a half in where I was very agressive and people still went like "We love you!!!!!!", that sort of stuff
Topic Starter
Winnyace
You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.
Patatitta

Winnyace wrote:

You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.
I literally gave examples of where I was being an asshole, only in a edit but because I wanetd to clarify my point after the fact, still, I think the edit being like 2 second before this post makes my point clear that i'm not trying to clear stuff up
UPR
A spaniard causing drama for a reason in a place where people kinda just don't give two pears? Well if I haven't seen it three times then a fourth shall do.

Also now that you mention it WinAce, this place is a chill place (even if some threads can get kinda quirky)
- Marco -

Kobold84 wrote:

Corne2Plum3
Since when being positive is bad @Patatitta?
Patatitta

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

Since when being positive is bad @Patatitta?
being positive is not always negative of course, that is why positivity exists, however, being positive doesn't always mean good things either, for example, acting positive when someone is actively talking shit to you is not a good thing

from wikipedia:

"Toxic positivity happens when people believe that negative thoughts about anything should be avoided"
Dementedjet

Patatitta wrote:

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread
I mean, bruh, if it was possible without any risks, I would sh*t on russian(not only osu player)s a lot

And not in a very family friendly way

But since rules are rules I try to keep my temper

About the 'bad threads', I think if some shitty thread pops up, people do say something like 'wtf is this?'

And about criticizing others, as one song goes: '🎵I dooon't CAAARE🎵'. I mean, honestly, what the person does or doesn't is none of my business. If whoever you're talking about lives in a delusion about how OT is so good and friendly, I just let them think so
UPR

Dementedjet wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

you guys STILL don't get my point


in basic, my point is dont act so positive the entire time. I'm not saying "we should have intellectual debate in OT", it's, don't fucking act like npc. Everyone in OT acts the same since no one wants to act differently. Feel free to just say "hey this thread is bad" or "I disagree with this". Not only that, but everyone claims that they have certain values like caring for OT lore, while this is a blatant lie.

That thread is critizicing people like my angel anaxii, NOT you, I actually said in my thread thaet YOU were one of the people that were completely fine as you actually did complain about shit and were yourself in the thread
I mean, bruh, if it was possible without any risks, I would sh*t on russian(not only osu player)s a lot

And not in a very family friendly way

But since rules are rules I try to keep my temper

About the 'bad threads', I think if some shitty thread pops up, people do say something like 'wtf is this?'

And about criticizing others, as one song goes: '🎵I dooon't CAAARE🎵'. I mean, honestly, what the person does or doesn't is none of my business. If whoever you're talking about lives in a delusion about how OT is so good and friendly, I just let them think so
synthwavesquid
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Duck o-o

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

You just said a few replies ago that you were acting like an asshole to get people riled up and now that thread, which was the biggest thread that could have landed you in hot waters that you did is a joke? You are really all over the place with whatever you're saying. I honestly believe you just want shit so you can laugh at it. Go on Twitter and find shit there. With this, I will stop replying to whatever you guys are saying here.
I literally gave examples of where I was being an asshole, only in a edit but because I wanetd to clarify my point after the fact, still, I think the edit being like 2 second before this post makes my point clear that i'm not trying to clear stuff up
its ok man, we still love you potato <3
Patatitta

cephaphysic wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Winnyace wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

I also want people to punch back, like, as that thread shows, i've been an asshole in OT for the longest time, and literally no one called me out, and whenever I did make an entire thread insulting other OT users, people still didn't call me out. You guys SHOULD NOT keep uip with my shit or anyone's else shit if they're acting like I act from time to time, it's actually going to improve your life
Or they can just completely ignore you because you aren't important to them IRL. You're just a spanish guy being an asshole online. They can just forget about you said.
thing is that instead of just totally ignoring me, they just still act like if like really cool and that I should not listen to the people and etc etc, something which I did not deserve, If i'm toxic, I want people to call me out and not put up with my shit, not just people trying to ignore it and act like if i'm cool because they dont want to have bad vibes with me
i think you need to understand that most people are either misinterpreting your insults as banter (doesn't help that the negativity thread, a thread intended as a joke for the most part, exists), making fun of you, or see that you're clearly going through something and don't want to make it worse, hence the "love you <3" messages in your initial thread. that last one is a response coming from genuine compassion, not people refusing to see you in a negative light

in fact, i'm inclined to believe you plain can't comprehend people responding to a situation in a way you wouldn't without it somehow being "fake" or something otherwise being wrong with them. once this thing's over i'm probably just going to leave you blocked and move on with my life, because i was already getting sick of you, and this nonsense has only given me more reason to commit to it. the only thing pushing me to bother with you is the fact that something feels incomplete, and my brain hates it. otherwise, my energy is better spent somewhere else
that second paragraph was the one thing I was looking for, if i'm being an asshole, block me, that is my whole fucking point, don't just keep acting positive towards me, don't bottle up your emotions, just take action if you feel it would be positive to take action, this will improve your life
Reyalp51
hey patata i dont want you to leave ot
Corne2Plum3
So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot
i'm not


Corne2Plum3 wrote:

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.
I think you're a pretty chill guy even if you lack a little bit of commitement as a GMT, I believe my last thread should have been wastelanded, not just locked. For example abraker locked A LOT more than you, so yeah, I think there may also be some things there

also you're 100% a closeted furry
Reyalp51

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot
i'm not
Good, i consider you as a friend and i dont want that to happen. I think this all happen cuz everyone misunderstood your thread and what purpose it had
Patatitta

Reyalp51 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

hey patata i dont want you to leave ot
i'm not
Good, i consider you as a friend and i dont want that to happen. I think this all happen cuz everyone misunderstood your thread and what purpose it had
yeah that is what I noticed, but whatever, i'm still going to post on OT as long as I play osu! itself, you're on the clear too
B0ii

- Marco - wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

igorsprite
ot NPC tier list
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Kobold84

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
Patatitta

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it
Behrauder

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it
igorsprite

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it
what would be the criteria?
Patatitta

igorsprite wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

ot NPC tier list
ngl I was considering it but I think I better not or else I will get exiled LMAO
Dew it.
alright, in a few hours I will make it but i'm not taking responsability for it
what would be the criteria?
my own personal and totally biased opinion
Reyalp51
mf is gonna take thread of the month again
Isshiki Kaname

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.
If you insist, very well. I actually have some feedback. As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you. Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge. Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either. I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate. In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

Again, this is just my opinion.
Reyalp51

KatouMegumi wrote:

Corne2Plum3 wrote:

So you want some punch?

Okay, tell me your thoughts about me then, I dare you.
If you insist, very well. I actually have some feedback. As a GMT (you), I don't really notice much air of professionalism from you. Most of the mod actions I saw you take are followed by childish remarks or made as if having a grudge. Your "zoomer grammar" doesn't help you look professional either. I also don't really agree with some thread locks you make on some genuinely fun threads to participate. In general, you give an air of arrogance too for some reason.

Again, this is just my opinion.
He wastedlanded my cat sex thread :(
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