they didn't delete stuff, it's just a (surprise surprise) new site thingyTad Fibonacci wrote:
Wait wtf why are all my posts in this thread got deleted?
They don't violate any rules as far as I can see.
At this point I've lost all hope that the new site would improve over time.Serraionga wrote:
they didn't delete stuff, it's just a (surprise surprise) new site thingyTad Fibonacci wrote:
Wait wtf why are all my posts in this thread got deleted?
They don't violate any rules as far as I can see.
she's a idiot. she's cute, but she's a fucking idiot.click squares wrote:
get that outa here
Girl with glasses best girl.Winnyace wrote:
Kaos got her new glasses today.
May your life be blessed forever-Aqua wrote:
I'm here to pray.
Cupcake-chan hidoiiiKupcaH wrote:
This thing should be burned
What would Douglas do if he saw you like this, praising 3d models?Meah wrote:
Cupcake-chan hidoiiiKupcaH wrote:
This thing should be burned
Winnyace wrote:
but I like this place. it's nice and quiet. well... was until they came back
Avatar 2: Electric Nanodesu.TeeArctic1 wrote:
Winnyace wrote:
but I like this place. it's nice and quiet. well... was until they came back
Long ago, the OT nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the VTuber Nation attacked.
This implies that the VTuber Nation coexisted with everyone else in the OT nations.TeeArctic1 wrote:
Winnyace wrote:
but I like this place. it's nice and quiet. well... was until they came back
Long ago, the OT nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed when the VTuber Nation attacked.
THE HERO OF GEN 8 OWOq9za wrote:
And you have failed to save that who you worship.
use fire to burn her head!!!keremaru wrote:
SUISEI HAS EXTREME HEALING CAPABILITIES
SOMEONE STOP HER
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.KatouMegumi wrote:
The priority should be not Hoshimachi Suisei (in fact, she is innocent.)
The priority should be crazy ass obsessed vtuber fans instead.
What if I tell you that people can like Vtubers and still be decent human beings.Lights wrote:
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.KatouMegumi wrote:
The priority should be not Hoshimachi Suisei (in fact, she is innocent.)
The priority should be crazy ass obsessed vtuber fans instead.
So you're telling me I should chop Meah's head off?KatouMegumi wrote:
The priority should be not Hoshimachi Suisei (in fact, she is innocent.)
The priority should be crazy ass obsessed vtuber fans instead.
Listen man I'm just here to chop heads nothing personal.Serraionga wrote:
sometimes i genuinely cannot tell if you guys are seriously annoyed by the vtuber stuff or if it's just part of the roleplay/joke
like i'm seeing more people complain about them than the actual people posting about it (which is like... 2/3 users at most?)
i don't understand why it's a big deal :{
Although I am constantly advocating to chop V-Tubers' heads off, you aren't wrong at all. I believe that their popularity comes from there hard work at entertaining and acting.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
What if I tell you that people can like Vtubers and still be decent human beings.Lights wrote:
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.KatouMegumi wrote:
The priority should be not Hoshimachi Suisei (in fact, she is innocent.)
The priority should be crazy ass obsessed vtuber fans instead.
Actually, most of the fandom of the Vtubers I follow are really nice people. But yes, obnoxious fans and stalkers are everywhere.
People follow them not because of the anime avatar, but for the contents that they provide. It's not dissimilar to how you follow a normal Youtuber.
Vtubers are people irl too and the avatar lets them interact with their community without sacrificing their anonymity.
And most if not all of the Hololive Vtubers have had their identity leaked, like their face, houses and such, but their fans have helped protect them from stalkers and creepy people by calling out those behaviors have actively helped them conceal their identity. Sure, since it's the internet nothing gets deleted permanently, but you'll have to dig for those information.
The point is, most people that watches Vtubers are just normal people who enjoys Vtuber contents.
Sure, there are toxic fans and obnoxious people in the fan base, but they're the minority, not the majority and the Vtubers themselves aren't responsible for those people's actions.
Personally I enjoy Suisei's content because I like her singing and she seemed like a hard working person. She went from being a solo Vtuber who can barely earn any money and gets rejected by agencies everywhere because they thought that she wasn't talented enough to a member of one of the biggest Vtuber agency.
Sure, you can argue that it's just an act and it's all made up to impress people and I cannot prove that it's not the case. However, from what I've seen, what I've heard, it felt genuine and I think a lot of people would agree with me.
tl;drTad Fibonacci wrote:
What if I tell you that people can like Vtubers and still be decent human beings.Lights wrote:
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.KatouMegumi wrote:
The priority should be not Hoshimachi Suisei (in fact, she is innocent.)
The priority should be crazy ass obsessed vtuber fans instead.
Actually, most of the fandom of the Vtubers I follow are really nice people. But yes, obnoxious fans and stalkers are everywhere.
People follow them not because of the anime avatar, but for the contents that they provide. It's not dissimilar to how you follow a normal Youtuber.
Vtubers are people irl too and the avatar lets them interact with their community without sacrificing their anonymity.
And most if not all of the Hololive Vtubers have had their identity leaked, like their face, houses and such, but their fans have helped protect them from stalkers and creepy people by calling out those behaviors have actively helped them conceal their identity. Sure, since it's the internet nothing gets deleted permanently, but you'll have to dig for those information.
The point is, most people that watches Vtubers are just normal people who enjoys Vtuber contents.
Sure, there are toxic fans and obnoxious people in the fan base, but they're the minority, not the majority and the Vtubers themselves aren't responsible for those people's actions.
Personally I enjoy Suisei's content because I like her singing and she seemed like a hard working person. She went from being a solo Vtuber who can barely earn any money and gets rejected by agencies everywhere because they thought that she wasn't talented enough to a member of one of the biggest Vtuber agency.
Sure, you can argue that it's just an act and it's all made up to impress people and I cannot prove that it's not the case. However, from what I've seen, what I've heard, it felt genuine and I think a lot of people would agree with me.
Neither did I but toxic fans suck ass.Lights wrote:
I never contested any of those points in what i said above
Well you did say this:Lights wrote:
I never contested any of those points in what i said above
And I said that Vtubers shouldn't be responsible for their toxic fans's behaviors since they're the minority in the fandom, not the majority.Lights wrote:
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.
To be fair you SHOULD address the minority and try to suppress them, or at least telling them to stop or be more careful.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Well you did say this:Lights wrote:
I never contested any of those points in what i said aboveAnd I said that Vtubers shouldn't be responsible for their toxic fans's behaviors since they're the minority in the fandom, not the majority.Lights wrote:
she isn't innocent. she knows exactly what kind of community and fans they're creating and they directly build their content around appealing to those people. Its very much intentional, no girl livestreams on the internet this long without figuring out what their main audience is like, especially one thats playing a virtual anime girl.
That's what I said though.q9za wrote:
To be fair you SHOULD address the minority and try to suppress them, or at least telling them to stop or be more careful.
Well that's pretty good then. But you only said the Fan Base, what about the V-Tuber themselves?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
That's what I said though.q9za wrote:
To be fair you SHOULD address the minority and try to suppress them, or at least telling them to stop or be more careful.
Most of the fan base does call out those behaviors and helped protected the Vtubers' identities when their face, address etc got leaked online.
Well, I cannot tell you how they think because I do not know.q9za wrote:
Well that's pretty good then. But you only said the Fan Base, what about the V-Tuber themselves?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
That's what I said though.q9za wrote:
To be fair you SHOULD address the minority and try to suppress them, or at least telling them to stop or be more careful.
Most of the fan base does call out those behaviors and helped protected the Vtubers' identities when their face, address etc got leaked online.
You're right :^DTad Fibonacci wrote:
Well, I cannot tell you how they think because I do not know.q9za wrote:
Well that's pretty good then. But you only said the Fan Base, what about the V-Tuber themselves?Tad Fibonacci wrote:
That's what I said though.q9za wrote:
To be fair you SHOULD address the minority and try to suppress them, or at least telling them to stop or be more careful.
Most of the fan base does call out those behaviors and helped protected the Vtubers' identities when their face, address etc got leaked online.
But based on their actions, I don't think they'd condone the toxic fan's behaviors.
I mean, part of why you'd want to be a Vtuber rather than a normal Youtuber is the anonymity, but if that's threatened by stalkers whom disguises themselves as your fan, you'd want to speak out against it.
