abraker wrote:
WHERE IS DA DRAFT
The Military Draft?
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Though this seems more fitting for abraker's ideology for quality, it's really quite good.
I don't think I have much else to say to it. But I'm willing to see what the rest of you guys think.
I'll rework it, nevertheless, keep in mind that this is just the first part, not the entire constitution, and that a constitution is not law, that's for us to discuss afterwards.
Also I'll address some of the points you raised with suggestions.
I. Secret in this context means that your vote isn't open to the public, not that the election itself is secret, but maybe confidential would be a better word?
I.b will be changed to shall
II. Yeah, I agree, I can add that point, although I would question whether or how to qualify for denizenship should be stated in legislative rather than law.
III.b -IV: OTLaw is what should be our lawbook and more where politics come into place whereas the constitution functions more as statutes or guidelines for how the state works and so on. Seeing as we have no lawbook atm, this would be something to discuss later.
V.a Forgiveness clause suggestions are much appreciated. Maybe a plea is required?
V.b But that could change over time, if the constitution is going to remain over time, wouldn't it be better not to exclude specific forums just because of status today?
VI. This point has to do with the practical execution of an election, from how you can give your vote, what a voting bill should look like, how the results should be announced and so forth, which in itself contains so many details, I find it better to state those rules in a lawbook.
VII. The specific number could be changed, although I thought that 7 would be small enough, yet large enough that it could be feasible yet democratic. But by all means, could be lower.
IX. What do you suggest, that the royal society is allowed a tiebreaker in matters of parliament? That it's an independent organ? Please clarify.
X. Fair, it could be organised under subcategories so it's easier to navigate.
XI. It doesn't say for no more than one year, it says they're elected for one period, which doesn't mean they can't run again, rather that they have to run again to be re-elected.
XIII.a I think I'll clarify that and other purely structural points in other parts. I could include a section about meetings and so on here though.
I'm working on the judicial part of the constitution now which should solve some of the issues raised, but there's a reason why I like the input
As president, you should start one yourself.
We'll have to consider some things first, something we probably should've worked together on with the Presidential election and whatnot before any of it even happened.
For now, we'll just need a congressional group of sorts who can handle the law-keeping, governance, whatever. Qualified™ people.
We could formulate what this congressional committee is in a few different ways. At the moment, I'm thinking of something along the lines of a committee that will come with ideas and debate amongst one another on shit.
So how do we judge this? Is this recruitment, or is this another form of election?
I'm just throwing some ideas out here. I'm not sure of what the hell I'm doing so I might as well get feedback.
On the OT discord?
There's one quick thing, though.
XXXVII - This has yet to be done. Then again, once the constitution is finalized, I could swear my oath to uphold the duties of office and the preservation of the OT!Constitution.
Nice, that was the intention, swearing the oath when it's finalized
Common practice in landsmeets and so on is to first redo the vote while encouraging abstaining voters to decide upon yes or no. Some organisations remove the option to abstain if there are still too many abstaining voters to decide, but personally, I find that to be tad unnecessary
Would it be a tad unnecessary, tad?
abraker wrote:
ok we are in a dire need of an update
the fuck is going on?
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Ey, I did a thing, here's the first part of the constitution, tell me what you think!
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives are chosen through free and secret elections. The denizens have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by OTLaw.
I.b. The denizens may also choose one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive periods.
III.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens who have aquired denizenship or will be aquiring denizenship by the month the elections take place.
III.b. In which cases denizens settled in other forums at the time of the elections, but otherwise fulfill the aforementioned requirements, should have the right to vote, shall be stated in OTLaw.
III.c. In which cases denizens who are otherwise considered clean of trashipitus, but whom, on the day of the election have been infected, shall be stated in OTLaw.
IV. Rules for census guiding and introduction of denizens eligible for voting into the census, shall be stated in OTLaw.
V. The right to vote shall be removed if;
a) A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to OTLaw.
b) Denizens which leave to serve other forums without the approval of the OTParliament.
VI. Elections shall be run as stated in OTLaw. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
VIII. The representatives may also choose one substitute member of parliament which shall overtake the duties of the representative should they not be capable of performing them themselves.
IX. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
XI. The representatives shall remain elected for a period of one year.
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Open and manage loans on the forum's behalf.
c) Keep track of the forum's finances and resources.
d) Manage the expenses which are necessary to keep the forums running.
e) administrate the enforcement of OTLaw by the OTPD
f) Ensure quality remains within the forums.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least five new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives are chosen through free and secret elections. The denizens have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by OTLaw.
I.b. The denizens may also choose one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive periods.
III.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens who have aquired denizenship or will be aquiring denizenship by the month the elections take place.
III.b. In which cases denizens settled in other forums at the time of the elections, but otherwise fulfill the aforementioned requirements, should have the right to vote, shall be stated in OTLaw.
III.c. In which cases denizens who are otherwise considered clean of trashipitus, but whom, on the day of the election have been infected, shall be stated in OTLaw.
IV. Rules for census guiding and introduction of denizens eligible for voting into the census, shall be stated in OTLaw.
V. The right to vote shall be removed if;
a) A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to OTLaw.
b) Denizens which leave to serve other forums without the approval of the OTParliament.
VI. Elections shall be run as stated in OTLaw. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
VIII. The representatives may also choose one substitute member of parliament which shall overtake the duties of the representative should they not be capable of performing them themselves.
IX. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
XI. The representatives shall remain elected for a period of one year.
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Open and manage loans on the forum's behalf.
c) Keep track of the forum's finances and resources.
d) Manage the expenses which are necessary to keep the forums running.
e) administrate the enforcement of OTLaw by the OTPD
f) Ensure quality remains within the forums.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least five new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
Well, damn. This was actually kinda cool to read.TeeArctic1 wrote:
Ey, I did a thing, here's the first part of the constitution, tell me what you think!
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives are chosen through free and secret elections. The denizens have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by OTLaw.
I.b. The denizens may also choose one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive periods.
III.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens who have aquired denizenship or will be aquiring denizenship by the month the elections take place.
III.b. In which cases denizens settled in other forums at the time of the elections, but otherwise fulfill the aforementioned requirements, should have the right to vote, shall be stated in OTLaw.
III.c. In which cases denizens who are otherwise considered clean of trashipitus, but whom, on the day of the election have been infected, shall be stated in OTLaw.
IV. Rules for census guiding and introduction of denizens eligible for voting into the census, shall be stated in OTLaw.
V. The right to vote shall be removed if;
a) A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to OTLaw.
b) Denizens which leave to serve other forums without the approval of the OTParliament.
VI. Elections shall be run as stated in OTLaw. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
VIII. The representatives may also choose one substitute member of parliament which shall overtake the duties of the representative should they not be capable of performing them themselves.
IX. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
XI. The representatives shall remain elected for a period of one year.
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Open and manage loans on the forum's behalf.
c) Keep track of the forum's finances and resources.
d) Manage the expenses which are necessary to keep the forums running.
e) administrate the enforcement of OTLaw by the OTPD
f) Ensure quality remains within the forums.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least five new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
Though this seems more fitting for abraker's ideology for quality, it's really quite good.
I don't think I have much else to say to it. But I'm willing to see what the rest of you guys think.
I have some questions about the constitution.
And can I get more details about what the seven representatives's duties are?
Will it be in Peppy coins or any other currency?
So will there be another election for said positions? If yes then when will it take place and who can enter?TeeArctic1 wrote:
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
And can I get more details about what the seven representatives's duties are?
We have to pay taxes?TeeArctic1 wrote:
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
Will it be in Peppy coins or any other currency?
Ok this is a shipwreck. Let me voice my thoughts on each point.
@Tad Fibonacci there is a weakly established unit of exchange as of right now, be it peppy coins or OT bucks, but I can see in the future that a more centralized system might be implemented. Currently a lot of the infrastructure for that is not in place and further discussion will need to happen to determine how everything will work.
I. - What does "secret" mean in this context? That elections will be conducted by some group of people secret from many denizens of OT? Hell no. Denizens must know when elections take place and be able to respond to them.
I.b. - Keyword "may". Which means not only denizens can choose, and furthermore doesn't specify it being specifically denizens of OT.
II. - ok
III.a. - How is denizenship determined? Historically, the OT Royal Society of Quality has automatically registered denizens for denizenship as soon as they meet the activeness requirement for joining the OT Royal Society of Quality, "You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation". We'll need to discuss this separately.
III.b. - aka duel denizenship. ok. What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
III.c. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
IV. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
V. a) - At least a few denizens qualify for this. There should be a forgiveness clause.
V. b) - I would extend this only as far as G&R and GD tbh. We never had as bad of runins with other subforums.
VI. - Is this a duplicate of one of the first few points? This point needs clarification of its purpose.
VII. - And if there is not enough willing denizens for 7?
IX. - The OT Royal Society would like a word on this one.
X. - Ok, how about we group all the election related votes and organize the order of this whole thing? Many related points are scattered all over the place
IX. - "for no more than one year" smh
XII. a) - ok.
XII. b) - ehhhh unless anyone has anything to say about this.
XII. c) - At this point I have to ask what checks upon the OTParliament to do its job?
XII. d) - ok.
XII. e) - This should be headed by the members of OTParliament with connections to people with power to do so as granted by the overlords.
XII. f) - OT Royal Society of Quality shall be the sole entity responsible of managing the forum quality. The OT Royal Society of Quality shall also work with the OTParliament to accept members dedicated for managing forum quality.
XIII.a. - ok, but how and where does the OTParliament operate?
XIII.b. - ok.
XIII.c. - ok
XIII.d. - odd, but ok.
XIV. - ok
I.b. - Keyword "may". Which means not only denizens can choose, and furthermore doesn't specify it being specifically denizens of OT.
II. - ok
III.a. - How is denizenship determined? Historically, the OT Royal Society of Quality has automatically registered denizens for denizenship as soon as they meet the activeness requirement for joining the OT Royal Society of Quality, "You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation". We'll need to discuss this separately.
III.b. - aka duel denizenship. ok. What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
III.c. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
IV. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
V. a) - At least a few denizens qualify for this. There should be a forgiveness clause.
V. b) - I would extend this only as far as G&R and GD tbh. We never had as bad of runins with other subforums.
VI. - Is this a duplicate of one of the first few points? This point needs clarification of its purpose.
VII. - And if there is not enough willing denizens for 7?
IX. - The OT Royal Society would like a word on this one.
X. - Ok, how about we group all the election related votes and organize the order of this whole thing? Many related points are scattered all over the place
IX. - "for no more than one year" smh
XII. a) - ok.
XII. b) - ehhhh unless anyone has anything to say about this.
XII. c) - At this point I have to ask what checks upon the OTParliament to do its job?
XII. d) - ok.
XII. e) - This should be headed by the members of OTParliament with connections to people with power to do so as granted by the overlords.
XII. f) - OT Royal Society of Quality shall be the sole entity responsible of managing the forum quality. The OT Royal Society of Quality shall also work with the OTParliament to accept members dedicated for managing forum quality.
XIII.a. - ok, but how and where does the OTParliament operate?
XIII.b. - ok.
XIII.c. - ok
XIII.d. - odd, but ok.
XIV. - ok
@Tad Fibonacci there is a weakly established unit of exchange as of right now, be it peppy coins or OT bucks, but I can see in the future that a more centralized system might be implemented. Currently a lot of the infrastructure for that is not in place and further discussion will need to happen to determine how everything will work.
Topic Starter
abraker wrote:
Ok this is a shipwreck. Let me voice my thoughts on each point.
I. - What does "secret" mean in this context? That elections will be conducted by some group of people secret from many denizens of OT? Hell no. Denizens must know when elections take place and be able to respond to them.
I.b. - Keyword "may". Which means not only denizens can choose, and furthermore doesn't specify it being specifically denizens of OT.
II. - ok
III.a. - How is denizenship determined? Historically, the OT Royal Society of Quality has automatically registered denizens for denizenship as soon as they meet the activeness requirement for joining the OT Royal Society of Quality, "You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation". We'll need to discuss this separately.
III.b. - aka duel denizenship. ok. What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
III.c. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
IV. - What does the "shall be stated in OTLaw" part mean?
V. a) - At least a few denizens qualify for this. There should be a forgiveness clause.
V. b) - I would extend this only as far as G&R and GD tbh. We never had as bad of runins with other subforums.
VI. - Is this a duplicate of one of the first few points? This point needs clarification of its purpose.
VII. - And if there is not enough willing denizens for 7?
IX. - The OT Royal Society would like a word on this one.
X. - Ok, how about we group all the election related votes and organize the order of this whole thing? Many related points are scattered all over the place
IX. - "for no more than one year" smh
XII. a) - ok.
XII. b) - ehhhh unless anyone has anything to say about this.
XII. c) - At this point I have to ask what checks upon the OTParliament to do its job?
XII. d) - ok.
XII. e) - This should be headed by the members of OTParliament with connections to people with power to do so as granted by the overlords.
XII. f) - OT Royal Society of Quality shall be the sole entity responsible of managing the forum quality. The OT Royal Society of Quality shall also work with the OTParliament to accept members dedicated for managing forum quality.
XIII.a. - ok, but how and where does the OTParliament operate?
XIII.b. - ok.
XIII.c. - ok
XIII.d. - odd, but ok.
XIV. - ok
@Tad Fibonacci there is a weakly established unit of exchange as of right now, be it peppy coins or OT bucks, but I can see in the future that a more centralized system might be implemented. Currently a lot of the infrastructure for that is not in place and further discussion will need to happen to determine how everything will work.
I'll rework it, nevertheless, keep in mind that this is just the first part, not the entire constitution, and that a constitution is not law, that's for us to discuss afterwards.
Also I'll address some of the points you raised with suggestions.
I. Secret in this context means that your vote isn't open to the public, not that the election itself is secret, but maybe confidential would be a better word?
I.b will be changed to shall
II. Yeah, I agree, I can add that point, although I would question whether or how to qualify for denizenship should be stated in legislative rather than law.
III.b -IV: OTLaw is what should be our lawbook and more where politics come into place whereas the constitution functions more as statutes or guidelines for how the state works and so on. Seeing as we have no lawbook atm, this would be something to discuss later.
V.a Forgiveness clause suggestions are much appreciated. Maybe a plea is required?
V.b But that could change over time, if the constitution is going to remain over time, wouldn't it be better not to exclude specific forums just because of status today?
VI. This point has to do with the practical execution of an election, from how you can give your vote, what a voting bill should look like, how the results should be announced and so forth, which in itself contains so many details, I find it better to state those rules in a lawbook.
VII. The specific number could be changed, although I thought that 7 would be small enough, yet large enough that it could be feasible yet democratic. But by all means, could be lower.
IX. What do you suggest, that the royal society is allowed a tiebreaker in matters of parliament? That it's an independent organ? Please clarify.
X. Fair, it could be organised under subcategories so it's easier to navigate.
XI. It doesn't say for no more than one year, it says they're elected for one period, which doesn't mean they can't run again, rather that they have to run again to be re-elected.
XIII.a I think I'll clarify that and other purely structural points in other parts. I could include a section about meetings and so on here though.
I'm working on the judicial part of the constitution now which should solve some of the issues raised, but there's a reason why I like the input
I. - "wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as confidential information."
V. - To be discussed
V.b - What qualifies as leaving OT for other sunforums?
IX. - Tiebreaker
XI. - The terms of representatives shall last one year
V. - To be discussed
V.b - What qualifies as leaving OT for other sunforums?
IX. - Tiebreaker
XI. - The terms of representatives shall last one year
lol
Topic Starter
Fair changes, although I'm still on the fence regarding giving the royal society a tiebreaker, if there are no more comments on the legislative part, I'll move on to the other parts, then maybe reviewing when it all comes together
a go ahead from me
bumping this
we need to have this going
why do governments always work so slowly?
we need to have this going
why do governments always work so slowly?
Perhaps we need a multitude of congressional members, as opposed to only one guy working on the whole thing.
Well, this call for a recruiting thread then.Achromalia wrote:
Perhaps we need a multitude of congressional members, as opposed to only one guy working on the whole thing.
As president, you should start one yourself.
Any ideas for immigration and border security. It seems to me like OT is very open against random attacks from outside. Does the government have enough money to spend on security equipments?
Sending this thread up, so the dead threads sink further......
Sending this thread up, so the dead threads sink further......
Obviously there will be randoms incoming from time to time which cause a disturbance. I would better want to know what most of those people ended up doing after posting. I don't see many of them follow up, and I think that is the frustrating part.
Alright.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Well, this call for a recruiting thread then.Achromalia wrote:
Perhaps we need a multitude of congressional members, as opposed to only one guy working on the whole thing.
As president, you should start one yourself.
We'll have to consider some things first, something we probably should've worked together on with the Presidential election and whatnot before any of it even happened.
For now, we'll just need a congressional group of sorts who can handle the law-keeping, governance, whatever. Qualified™ people.
We could formulate what this congressional committee is in a few different ways. At the moment, I'm thinking of something along the lines of a committee that will come with ideas and debate amongst one another on shit.
So how do we judge this? Is this recruitment, or is this another form of election?
I'm just throwing some ideas out here. I'm not sure of what the hell I'm doing so I might as well get feedback.
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Yeah, I've sort of been busy last few days with real-life elections/conferences/politics and sickness, so haven't had much time to write this constitution, but having more help would certainly help.
At the moment, what I struggle with the most is writing down all the relevant points from actual constitutions and transforming them into points that would work for a forum like this one, as well as organising the constitution to be easy to navigate. I should have a lot of time the next two days though, so I should be good to work on it a lot then.
I think help would be best organised through either a discord group or a spreadsheet/document which can be edited and added to in real time so the entire thing is easier to work with.
At the moment, what I struggle with the most is writing down all the relevant points from actual constitutions and transforming them into points that would work for a forum like this one, as well as organising the constitution to be easy to navigate. I should have a lot of time the next two days though, so I should be good to work on it a lot then.
I think help would be best organised through either a discord group or a spreadsheet/document which can be edited and added to in real time so the entire thing is easier to work with.
what do you guys feel about an exclusive channel for such?
Topic Starter
abraker wrote:
what do you guys feel about an exclusive channel for such?
On the OT discord?
yea
Topic Starter
Sure that could be cool, would require me to be more active on discord, but this would be a nice incentive for me to do that either way
Stop Article 13
its already happened
now i have to draw my memes
now i have to draw my memes
I should be a parliamentarist
zain ur pretty cute i'd vote for u
Topic Starter
I got more points for you all to read through, as always, input is greatly appreciated.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as confidential information. The denizens have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by OTLaw.
I.b. The denizens shall also choose one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive periods.
III.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens who have aquired denizenship or will be aquiring denizenship by the month the elections take place.
III.b. In which cases denizens settled in other forums at the time of the elections, but otherwise fulfill the aforementioned requirements, should have the right to vote, shall be stated in OTLaw.
III.c. In which cases denizens who are otherwise considered clean of trashipitus, but whom, on the day of the election have been infected, shall be stated in OTLaw.
IV. Rules for census guiding and introduction of denizens eligible for voting into the census, shall be stated in OTLaw.
V. The right to vote shall be removed if;
a) A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to OTLaw.
b) Denizens which leave to serve other forums without the approval of the OTParliament.
VI. Elections shall be run as stated in OTLaw. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
VIII. The representatives may also choose one substitute member of parliament which shall overtake the duties of the representative should they not be capable of performing them themselves.
IX. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
XI. The terms of representatives shall last for one year.
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Open and manage loans on the forum's behalf.
c) Keep track of the forum's finances and resources.
d) Manage the expenses which are necessary to keep the forums running.
e) administrate the enforcement of OTLaw by the OTPD
f) Ensure quality remains within the forums.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least five new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt, OT High Court respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XVI.a The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to OTLaw and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVIII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed.
XIX. Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Further instructions regarding court proceedings and punishable acts shall be stated in OTLaw.
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution and in treaties concerning forum visitor rights which are binding for OT.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete, in accordance to OTLaw. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour.
XXIII.d None may be exposed to exploitation, forced posting or slavery.
XXIII.e The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases and in the ways in accordance with OTLaw. The punishment must be necessary and not pose an unreasonable engagement.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as possible, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination.
XXVIII.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, if not in accordance with law, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. (heh) All have the right to privacy. The government shall secure protection of denizens private life.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with OTLaw.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as confidential information. The denizens have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by OTLaw.
I.b. The denizens shall also choose one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive periods.
III.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens who have aquired denizenship or will be aquiring denizenship by the month the elections take place.
III.b. In which cases denizens settled in other forums at the time of the elections, but otherwise fulfill the aforementioned requirements, should have the right to vote, shall be stated in OTLaw.
III.c. In which cases denizens who are otherwise considered clean of trashipitus, but whom, on the day of the election have been infected, shall be stated in OTLaw.
IV. Rules for census guiding and introduction of denizens eligible for voting into the census, shall be stated in OTLaw.
V. The right to vote shall be removed if;
a) A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to OTLaw.
b) Denizens which leave to serve other forums without the approval of the OTParliament.
VI. Elections shall be run as stated in OTLaw. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VII. There shall be elected 7 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
VIII. The representatives may also choose one substitute member of parliament which shall overtake the duties of the representative should they not be capable of performing them themselves.
IX. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
XI. The terms of representatives shall last for one year.
XII. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Give and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Open and manage loans on the forum's behalf.
c) Keep track of the forum's finances and resources.
d) Manage the expenses which are necessary to keep the forums running.
e) administrate the enforcement of OTLaw by the OTPD
f) Ensure quality remains within the forums.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least five new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt, OT High Court respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XVI.a The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to OTLaw and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVIII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed.
XIX. Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Further instructions regarding court proceedings and punishable acts shall be stated in OTLaw.
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution and in treaties concerning forum visitor rights which are binding for OT.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete, in accordance to OTLaw. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour.
XXIII.d None may be exposed to exploitation, forced posting or slavery.
XXIII.e The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases and in the ways in accordance with OTLaw. The punishment must be necessary and not pose an unreasonable engagement.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as possible, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination.
XXVIII.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, if not in accordance with law, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. (heh) All have the right to privacy. The government shall secure protection of denizens private life.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with OTLaw.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
I.b. - You mean "elect", not "choose"?
II - Consider stating how long a period is in or after this point. Also you are using "terms" at XI and "periods" here. Decide on one.
III.a. - consider refering to the "denizens of OT" where "people" or "denizens" are used. I don't like this point floating around explicitly, I'd like qualification to be state implicitly. Change this to define what "denizens of OT" means.
III.b. - I am still not sold on the "shall be stated in OTLaw". I suggest changing it to "as stated in OTLaw". This consititution should have a timeless tense, yet "shall be" implies future tense. As an better alternative, remove it altogether. This document can superceed any other laws written elsewhere. No need to state that you need to follow some other document.
III.c. - same as previous
IV. - Doesn't really belong here. This consitution should be defining the government and the rights of denizens of OT, not stating what laws there should be
V.a. - Recommending to add "bwoah'd" to defined terminology somewhere
V.b. - Just say "defectors"
VI - First sentence, see III.b. and III.c.
IX - This is in the case where one member of parliament obstains, right? Because there can't be equal amount of votes on both sides for an odd member voting. And if so, what if the president obstains? Then this point falls apart.
X - put this closer to III.a. since they concern themselves whith voting eligibility
XI - put this after II. since both tie in together with terms.
XII.a. - "set and absolve", not "give and absolve"
XIII.b - Define a maximum period for which a review can last
XV.b. - and if the official judge position remains vacant?
XXI. - sigh... know what? Just have a point somewhere that says there is another document that serves as an addendum to this document
XXII - What does "which are binding for OT." mean?
XXIII.c. - Kind of redundant given osu's rules.
XXIII.d. - hmmmmmmm
XXIV.a. - what does "pose an unreasonable engagement." mean?
XXIV.b. - "as possible" -> "as permissible"
XXIV.c - What does this entail?
XXVI. - what does this mean?
XXVII. - Isn't this same as XXIII.c?
XXVIII.a - I think osu's rules covers whatever this implies
II - Consider stating how long a period is in or after this point. Also you are using "terms" at XI and "periods" here. Decide on one.
III.a. - consider refering to the "denizens of OT" where "people" or "denizens" are used. I don't like this point floating around explicitly, I'd like qualification to be state implicitly. Change this to define what "denizens of OT" means.
III.b. - I am still not sold on the "shall be stated in OTLaw". I suggest changing it to "as stated in OTLaw". This consititution should have a timeless tense, yet "shall be" implies future tense. As an better alternative, remove it altogether. This document can superceed any other laws written elsewhere. No need to state that you need to follow some other document.
III.c. - same as previous
IV. - Doesn't really belong here. This consitution should be defining the government and the rights of denizens of OT, not stating what laws there should be
V.a. - Recommending to add "bwoah'd" to defined terminology somewhere
V.b. - Just say "defectors"
VI - First sentence, see III.b. and III.c.
IX - This is in the case where one member of parliament obstains, right? Because there can't be equal amount of votes on both sides for an odd member voting. And if so, what if the president obstains? Then this point falls apart.
X - put this closer to III.a. since they concern themselves whith voting eligibility
XI - put this after II. since both tie in together with terms.
XII.a. - "set and absolve", not "give and absolve"
XIII.b - Define a maximum period for which a review can last
XV.b. - and if the official judge position remains vacant?
XXI. - sigh... know what? Just have a point somewhere that says there is another document that serves as an addendum to this document
XXII - What does "which are binding for OT." mean?
XXIII.c. - Kind of redundant given osu's rules.
XXIII.d. - hmmmmmmm
XXIV.a. - what does "pose an unreasonable engagement." mean?
XXIV.b. - "as possible" -> "as permissible"
XXIV.c - What does this entail?
XXVI. - what does this mean?
XXVII. - Isn't this same as XXIII.c?
XXVIII.a - I think osu's rules covers whatever this implies
in conclusion there is no law in OT
Topic Starter
Reworked with new input.
Some clarification:
This version has been compressed with easier wording and points moved or added depending on where it was natural to include.
Point XVI means that you cannot be punished for breaking the law if the punishable act wasn't in law when committed. Meaning that new laws cannot affect actions taken prior to that law being signed.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the requirements stated by the Royal Society, being;
You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation.
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XIII.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XV.d If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen form
XVI.a The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVIII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed.
XIX. Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. (heh) All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
Some clarification:
This version has been compressed with easier wording and points moved or added depending on where it was natural to include.
Point XVI means that you cannot be punished for breaking the law if the punishable act wasn't in law when committed. Meaning that new laws cannot affect actions taken prior to that law being signed.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the requirements stated by the Royal Society, being;
You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation.
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XIII.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XV.d If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen form
XVI.a The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVIII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed.
XIX. Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. (heh) All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
Point XV and XIX seems to contradict with each other.
Point XV states: "If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen form"
And point XIX states: "Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens."
You might wanna check that out.
Maybe you should change point XIX to something like "Court cases can rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT! Parliament."
There should also be something stated about juries in the court system part.
You should add something about the court can give direct requests to denizens and how disobeying them may lead to consequences. (Like showing up to a court, etc)
Edit: Also, as point XVIII states: "The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed."
I don't see why that is. I think court results should be able to be appealed if there are sufficient evidences found to affect the results in a meaningful manner.
And of course, it will have to go through the OT! Parliament.
Point XV states: "If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen form"
And point XIX states: "Court cases shall be open to the public, where all roles except judges are filled by denizens."
You might wanna check that out.
Maybe you should change point XIX to something like "Court cases can rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT! Parliament."
There should also be something stated about juries in the court system part.
You should add something about the court can give direct requests to denizens and how disobeying them may lead to consequences. (Like showing up to a court, etc)
Edit: Also, as point XVIII states: "The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed."
I don't see why that is. I think court results should be able to be appealed if there are sufficient evidences found to affect the results in a meaningful manner.
And of course, it will have to go through the OT! Parliament.
Ok so when do I become king
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Fun fact, working on this, I read through the Norwegian, Belgian, French and US Constitutions. Pretty fun stuff really.
you must be learning so much
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I have so much useless information now
I'll reply once Tad's issues are handled
any progress?
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Executive part has been added, jury system and ability to appeal a case in OTCourt has been added.
That's really that, now I'll just be waiting for your input!
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the requirements stated by the Royal Society, being;
You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation.
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XIII.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XV.d If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XVI.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XVI.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XVI.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XVI.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XVI.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XVI.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XVI.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XVII. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVIII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIX. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final.
XX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XXI. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXII. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXIII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIV.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIV.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIV.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIV.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXVI.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXVI.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVII. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVIII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXIX.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXXI. (heh) All have the right to privacy.
XXXII. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXIII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIV. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXVI. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVII. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution.
XXXVIII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXIX. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXX. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
That's really that, now I'll just be waiting for your input!
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the requirements stated by the Royal Society, being;
You must have been present in the land of OT for no less than sixty days and have participated in this land's activities enough to present a ten page history of your participation.
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XIII.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XIII.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XIII.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XIII.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XIII.d. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XIV. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XV.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XV.b The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XV.c The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XV.d If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XVI.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XVI.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XVI.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XVI.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XVI.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XVI.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XVI.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XVII. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVIII. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIX. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final.
XX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XXI. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXII. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXIII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIV.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIV.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIV.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIV.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXVI.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXVI.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVII. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVIII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXIX.a All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXXI. (heh) All have the right to privacy.
XXXII. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXIII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIV. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXVI. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVII. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution.
XXXVIII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXIX. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXX. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
V. That Royal Society's requirements are subject to change. I wouldn't put that directly in the constitution, but supplementary laws
VIII. Not sure how I feel about there being a constant number of representatives. Maybe say "no less than 5"? At least allow the number to change may it need to be expanded.
XV. What does "respectively" add on to in this context?
XVI. What if a jury member drops out mid case?
XVII. I think this needs to be put earlier on, right after first mentioning OTCourt
XIX.a What counts as "sufficient new evidence" and what determines that it can " alter the nature of the original case"?
XIX. So if it fucks up the second time too, like violate XIX.d, then the judging of the new case is still final?
XXVII. In the minuscule chance an OTCourt determines there is a retroactive effect between points within the constitution, how will this be resolved?
XXXVII. Missing ending quote
VIII. Not sure how I feel about there being a constant number of representatives. Maybe say "no less than 5"? At least allow the number to change may it need to be expanded.
XV. What does "respectively" add on to in this context?
XVI. What if a jury member drops out mid case?
XVII. I think this needs to be put earlier on, right after first mentioning OTCourt
XIX.a What counts as "sufficient new evidence" and what determines that it can " alter the nature of the original case"?
XIX. So if it fucks up the second time too, like violate XIX.d, then the judging of the new case is still final?
XXVII. In the minuscule chance an OTCourt determines there is a retroactive effect between points within the constitution, how will this be resolved?
XXXVII. Missing ending quote
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Rectified point order
Point V changed to allow for changing requirements.
Point VIII changed to allow for more representatives
Point XV, now XIII: Respectively secures that one is not part of the other and vice versa.
Point XVI, now XIV addressed in XIV.h
Point XVII moved to XIII.b
Point XIX.a, now XVII: Sufficient new evidence and alteration of the original case is somewhat up to officials to define, but should cover evidence that puts the original case in a new light, either by disproving previously presented evidence, adding new context to previously presented evidence and so on. If that presented evidence changes the circumstances of the case in a meaningful manner, it would be grounds for having an appeal case.
Point XIX, now XVII has been addressed in XVIII
Point XXVII, not entirely sure what you mean, but the constitution only states that laws can't be retroactive. I suppose as such, the constitution as well, can't be retroactive. However, I'll consider adding a point about how the constitution can be changed with 2/3 majority in the parliament, if that's what you mean.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the current requirements stated by the Royal Society, which can be found at
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/615764
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be no less than elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XI.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XI.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XI.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XI.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XI.e. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XII. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XIII.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XIII.b In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIII.c The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XIII.d The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XIII.e If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XIV.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XIV.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XIV.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XIV.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XIV.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XIV.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XIV.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XIV.h Jury members shall remain as jury for the entirety of the case, and shall be held in contempt of court should they leave.
XV. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVI. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final, unless found eligble for point XVIII.
XVIII. Should an appealed case be found eligible for the aforementioned exemptions, the case shall be judged void, and all charges dropped, whereupon any charges, old or new, must be filed in a new court case.
XIX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII. All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIII. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXIV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXV. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVI. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution."
XXXVII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXVII. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXVIII. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Point V changed to allow for changing requirements.
Point VIII changed to allow for more representatives
Point XV, now XIII: Respectively secures that one is not part of the other and vice versa.
Point XVI, now XIV addressed in XIV.h
Point XVII moved to XIII.b
Point XIX.a, now XVII: Sufficient new evidence and alteration of the original case is somewhat up to officials to define, but should cover evidence that puts the original case in a new light, either by disproving previously presented evidence, adding new context to previously presented evidence and so on. If that presented evidence changes the circumstances of the case in a meaningful manner, it would be grounds for having an appeal case.
Point XIX, now XVII has been addressed in XVIII
Point XXVII, not entirely sure what you mean, but the constitution only states that laws can't be retroactive. I suppose as such, the constitution as well, can't be retroactive. However, I'll consider adding a point about how the constitution can be changed with 2/3 majority in the parliament, if that's what you mean.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the current requirements stated by the Royal Society, which can be found at
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/615764
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be no less than elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
XI.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XI.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XI.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XI.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XI.e. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XII. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XIII.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XIII.b In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIII.c The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XIII.d The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XIII.e If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XIV.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XIV.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XIV.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XIV.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XIV.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XIV.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XIV.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XIV.h Jury members shall remain as jury for the entirety of the case, and shall be held in contempt of court should they leave.
XV. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVI. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final, unless found eligble for point XVIII.
XVIII. Should an appealed case be found eligible for the aforementioned exemptions, the case shall be judged void, and all charges dropped, whereupon any charges, old or new, must be filed in a new court case.
XIX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII. All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIII. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXIV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXV. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVI. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution."
XXXVII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXVII. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXVIII. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Well, I don't have any particular points of contention. These points seem pretty reasonable.TeeArctic1 wrote:
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIV. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXVI. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVII. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution.
XXXVIII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXIX. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXX. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
There's one quick thing, though.
XXXVII - This has yet to be done. Then again, once the constitution is finalized, I could swear my oath to uphold the duties of office and the preservation of the OT!Constitution.
Topic Starter
Achromalia wrote:
TeeArctic1 wrote:
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIV. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXVI. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVII. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution.
XXXVIII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXIX. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXX. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Well, I don't have any particular points of contention. These points seem pretty reasonable.
There's one quick thing, though.
XXXVII - This has yet to be done. Then again, once the constitution is finalized, I could swear my oath to uphold the duties of office and the preservation of the OT!Constitution.
Nice, that was the intention, swearing the oath when it's finalized
So what happens if most of OTParliament decides to abstain from decision making, effectively making one person the deciding factor in all decisions? Either due to being paid out OTCoins or some other reason?
Topic Starter
I'd suggest that members of parliament receive a decent salary to discourage that, and also that it be illegal for members of parliament to receive monetary or other substantial gifts from companies or individuals. First part of that can be put into the constitution, second part should be put down in law
Although, I could put in a point about how a vote has to be redone if too many people abstain from voting.
Although, I could put in a point about how a vote has to be redone if too many people abstain from voting.
ok so wheres my money
Would it then potentially need to be redone ad infinitum?
Topic Starter
abraker wrote:
Would it then potentially need to be redone ad infinitum?
Common practice in landsmeets and so on is to first redo the vote while encouraging abstaining voters to decide upon yes or no. Some organisations remove the option to abstain if there are still too many abstaining voters to decide, but personally, I find that to be tad unnecessary
Somebody called for me?TeeArctic1 wrote:
Common practice in landsmeets and so on is to first redo the vote while encouraging abstaining voters to decide upon yes or no. Some organisations remove the option to abstain if there are still too many abstaining voters to decide, but personally, I find that to be tad unnecessary
Topic Starter
Tad Fibonacci wrote:
TeeArctic1 wrote:
Common practice in landsmeets and so on is to first redo the vote while encouraging abstaining voters to decide upon yes or no. Some organisations remove the option to abstain if there are still too many abstaining voters to decide, but personally, I find that to be tad unnecessary
Somebody called for me?
Would it be a tad unnecessary, tad?
Ok I think it's time to finilize this and hope it doesn't crash and burn.
Topic Starter
Then, as it stands, with the last issues ironed out, this is potentially the final and current OTConstitution.
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
Representatives shall receive a certain amount of pay to ensure that these tasks are executed correctly.
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the current requirements stated by the Royal Society, which can be found at
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/615764
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be no less than elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
X.c Should the abstaining votes be decisive in deciding the outcome of a case, the vote must be redone until that is not the case.
XI.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XI.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XI.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XI.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XI.e. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XII. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XIII.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XIII.b In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIII.c The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XIII.d The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XIII.e If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XIV.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XIV.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XIV.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XIV.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XIV.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XIV.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XIV.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XIV.h Jury members shall remain as jury for the entirety of the case, and shall be held in contempt of court should they leave.
XV. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVI. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final, unless found eligble for point XVIII.
XVIII. Should an appealed case be found eligible for the aforementioned exemptions, the case shall be judged void, and all charges dropped, whereupon any charges, old or new, must be filed in a new court case.
XIX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII. All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIII. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXIV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXV. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVI. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution."
XXXVII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXVII. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXVIII. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors
A. Concerning the citizen rights and legislative power.
I. The people shall practice their legislative powers through the OTParliament, wherein the representatives being voted for are voted through free elections for which each individual's vote shall be classified as secret. The denizens of OT have the right to rule over local and personal threads as they see fit, as long as the reign does not conflict with the instructions provided by the constitution or law.
I.b. The denizens shall also elect one representative which shall act as president, and serve as chief in command and head of state.
II. Elections shall be held each year, where the president may serve for a maximum of two consecutive terms. A term shall last for one year.
III. The OTParliament has the duty to:
a) Set and absolve laws; set taxes, fees, tolls and other official burdens.
b) Keep track and uphold official institutions.
c) Keep track of and uphold intra-forum industry.
d) administrate the OTPD and other government agencies.
e) Ensure quality remains within the forums
Representatives shall receive a certain amount of pay to ensure that these tasks are executed correctly.
IV.a. The right to vote in the elections is reserved for denizens of OT whom have gotten denizenship.
IV.b. The right to vote may also be given to osu!staff, should they desire.
IV.c. No representatives may be elected without being eligible to vote.
V. Denizens may aquire denizenship if they fulfill the current requirements stated by the Royal Society, which can be found at
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/615764
VI. The right to vote shall be removed if;
A denizen has been bwoah'ed out of existence or has comitted a seriously punishable act in accordance to osu!rules or law.
VII. Complaints concerning disputed right to vote, may be sent to the OTParliament.
VIII. There shall be no less than elected 5 representatives into the OTParliament, wherein one of them serves as the president.
IX. The representatives may also choose one substitute member in case of real life shit going down.
X. In cases where the OTParliament are unable to decide upon an action, the President's vote shall count as two votes.
X.b. In case the OTParliament still can't decide, no action may be taken.
X.c Should the abstaining votes be decisive in deciding the outcome of a case, the vote must be redone until that is not the case.
XI.a. Presentations of new laws, changing of laws or absolving of laws must be done in the OTParliament through gifs or memes, either from a representative or a denizen.
XI.b. After the idea has been suggested, the representatives shall review the law and either give it a Royal Society stamp of approval or condemn it to shitposting hell to be locked.
XI.c. The review shall last for no more than 50 relevant, non-shitposting, replies.
XI.d. If the suggestion is condemned, it shall be reviewed once more with lower standards whilst provided with constructive criticism. This review shall last for no more than 25 relevant non-shitposting replies. If the law remains shit, it shall be locked and ignored. If it becomes better after the criticism, the OTParliament may vote over it once more.
XI.e. Between each review, there must be at least three new threads.
XII. If the OTParliament accepts the law, it shall be sent onwards to the president which chooses whether or not he or she will bump the law, integrating it into OTLaw.
B. Concerning the judicial system
XIII.a The judicial system shall consist of the OTCourt and osu!staff team respectively.
XIII.b In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XIII.c The OTCourt shall consist of one official judge, supported by one independent assistant judge, whom shall act as consulting support. The assistant judge has no bearing on the case's end result.
XIII.d The OTCourt shall be appointed by the OTParliament.
XIII.e If no judge is available, the OTParliament may appoint a temporary denizen to oversee the trial. The temporary judge may only remain judge for the case they have been chosen for.
XIV.a The OTCourt shall also have a jury consisting of three people in criminal cases.
XIV.b The jury's duty is to decide upon whether or not a person is guilty in the offences they have been charged with, considering only the facts of the case and directions of the judge.
XIV.c The jury has no right to interpret law, and shall only give their answer in the form of "ye" or "nah"
XIV.d To be charged guilty, the jury has to vote as a majority, meaning the vote has to at least be 2 to 1.
XIV.e The jury has no role in sentencing.
XIV.f The jury shall remain impartial and independent.
XIV.g The jury shall remain uninfluenced by any person who is not a member of the jury.
XIV.h Jury members shall remain as jury for the entirety of the case, and shall be held in contempt of court should they leave.
XV. The OTCourt's duty is to fairly judge disputes amongst denizens of OT in accordance to law and make sure that punishment is dealt should it be necessary.
XVI. In cases brought to the attention of the court, the OTCourt has the right and duty to check that any actions taken by the government regarding the matter, doesn't conflict with the constitution.
XVII. The results of cases brought up in OTCourt can not be appealed, unless:
a) There is sufficient new evidence in the case to alter the nature of the original case.
b) Judges are proven to be partial in the case, whereupon the accused can request another judge to fill in should they wish.
c) The court case in question hasn't followed proper court proceedings.
d) The court case in question hasn't been conducted in accordance with law.
In these exemptions, there shall be held a new court case at the earliest permissable time, whereupon the judging of the new case shall be final, unless found eligble for point XVIII.
XVIII. Should an appealed case be found eligible for the aforementioned exemptions, the case shall be judged void, and all charges dropped, whereupon any charges, old or new, must be filed in a new court case.
XIX. Court cases shall rely on voluntary work of denizens to fill in specific roles except for the judge - which will be designated by the OT!Parliament. The judge may also be a denizen in cases where a temporary judge is appointed.
XX. All members present at the time of the court case's start shall be briefed on the nature of the case in question, and shall hear opening statements from both the defendants and prosecution.
XXI. Court Proceedings shall follow the pattern of OT Court II.
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860972?start=6956061
C. Forum visitor rights
XXII. The OTParliament and all its associated departments and agencies shall respect and protect the forum visitor rights as stated in the Constitution.
XXIII.a Every forum visitor has the right to lurk. None may be excluded from lurking in the forums.
XXIII.b Every forum visitor has the right to post, edit, or delete on the forums, except in court cases where editing or deleting posts shall count as contempt of court. The denizen shall remain responsible for the ensuing chaos.
XXIII.c None may be exposed to unjust ridicule, exclusion, bullying or other humiliating or otherwise uncool behaviour in accordance with osu!rules stated in
https://osu.ppy.sh/help/wiki/Rules
XXIII.d The government shall protect these basic rights and fight injustice.
XXIV.a None may be exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned other than in the cases where rules have been broken. The punishment must be necessary and serve a purpose.
XXIV.b The accused shall, as permissable, be tried in OTCourt.
XXIV.c Those who have unjustly exiled, bwoah'ed, silenced or shunned a denizen shall be held responsible for such.
XXV.a None may be judged if not by law, and none may be punished if not in accordance with a verdict.
XXV.b All have the right to be considered innocent until proven otherwise.
XXVI. No law may have retroactive effect.
XXVII. All are equal to the law. No forum visitor may be victim of unjust or unreasonable discrimination in the eyes of law.
XXVIII. All have freedom of expression. None may be held legally responsible for sharing or receiving information, ideas or messages unless not defendable when held up to the core principles of seeking truth, democracy and the free forming of a denizen's opinions.
XXIX.a All have the right to create, join and opt out of unions and other groups.
XXIX.b All may participate in peaceful demonstrations or discussions.
XXIX.c The government does not have the right to use military might against denizens, unless an assembly threatens peace and before the authorities have given a warning in advance.
XXX. All have the right to privacy.
XXXI. All have the right to their property. The government or other denizens may not take personal property if not in accordance with law.
XXXII. All who legally lurk on the forums have the right of free passage within. None may be denied of leaving the forums, unless required for court proceedings. Denizens may not be denied entry into OT.
D. Concerning the executive power and duties of the president
XXXIII. The executive power shall lie with the President of OT. The president shall hold office during the term of one year, of which he must be elected for.
XXXIV. No person who has not been a denizen, per the requirements of the royal society, for a minimum of three months, may be chosen president.
XXXV. In case of the removal, death, resignation, or inability to perform duties of the President, the OTParliament may appoint an officer who shall act as president until the inability is removed or a new president is elected.
XXXVI. Before entering office, the President shall swear the following oath: "I solemnly swear that I will rightfully execute the Office of President of OT, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the OTConstitution."
XXXVII. The president shall act, and perform the duties related to the role as:
a) Chief of State
b) Chief executive
c) Chief administrator
d) Chief diplomat
e) Commander in chief
f) Chief legislator
g) Chief of party
h) Chief citizen
XXXVII. The president shall at the start and end of his term, give a speech adressing the State of OT, and reccommend to the OTParliament what to do.
XXXVIII. The President, and all other civil officers of OT, shall be removed from office on conviction of high crimes and misdemeanors
Notice
Denizens of OT, the OTConstitution has been approved and is pending finalization. The OT Royal Society has created a temporary governing body consisting of 4 members, President Achromalia, me, and another two other anonymous members, to work out the details of the soon to be historic day. A ceremony is in the works to celebrate the finalization of the OTConstitution, and the rough details of it are as follows. One member of the OTGovernment will make a speech followed by a speech from President Achromalia. Then the events shall proceed to a ribbon cutting ceremony, and the oath will be taken. Finally, the OTConstitution will be officially posted in its own thread and take effect.
Following the ceremony, elections will be organized for four members of OTParliament. Once the elections are over, the OTParliament shall work to create the legislature that will run OT.
Following the ceremony, elections will be organized for four members of OTParliament. Once the elections are over, the OTParliament shall work to create the legislature that will run OT.
,,,,,,,,,,,Sincerely
OT Royal Scientist abraker,
Head of OT Royal Society of Quality,
Member of OT Royal Society
OT Royal Scientist abraker,
Head of OT Royal Society of Quality,
Member of OT Royal Society
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