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abraker
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spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for definition. First definition would concern when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping). Sharp angles can be said to have flow like star patterns and such, and first definition doesn't cover those. Second definition would concern the stress the player experience when trying to reach an aimpoint.
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Aiseca
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abraker wrote:

spicy

but I argue flow is as subjective as the line they draw for when you can no longer move the cursor in a smooth motion. The subjectivity mostly comes from the player's ability to maintain around the same velocity throughout the pattern (assuming they do that instead of snapping).


The level of subjectiveness differs from player to player and what skill level they actually attain. that could be the reason why others see it fine while others don't.
abraker
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I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said
Aiseca
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abraker wrote:

I updated my response before I saw your reply

second definition covers what you have said


I think were on the same boat on this issue then.
Kibbleru
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oh my, the good old days LOL

if somebody was found nowadays ranking a map with inconsistency in timing between diffs, they'd get booted right away prob xD
abraker
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https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5666947 - mapper makes highest diff with extremely hard jacks in the ending. Drama ensues over tastes as the map gets rep from player rating. Drama resolves until bubble pop by QAT for keeping ending intact.
Aiseca
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Recent events at the mapping scene brought up many people to question the system. Do you think with the current proposals here and there being put up to be discussed and have a "community-wide input" on how to make the system work well at both ends of the mapper and the higher-ups can finally be done at the start of a new chapter of mapping? Or is it another gust of wind just passing by and will be sent yet again to the depths without resolution?
abraker
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"Community-wide" input is not wide enough. I am actively engaging those threads and mostly BN, mappers, and modders are responding. Huge polarization on how to deal with controversial maps. Some want a QAT dictatorship to firmly decide against "low quality" maps, whatever the subjective viewpoint is. Some proposed to let random QAT and BN vote what to per controversial maps. Some are complaining ranking criteria is too relaxed and is causing the mess with controversial maps. Others propose to have the players vote if the QAT can't decide.

Ultimately, peoples have tastes differ yet those who have specific tastes and want to restrict controversial maps are the most dangerous. I am not sure whether they are aware or not of it because they can be just unhappy with how a mapper got away pushing an experimental map they don't approve of, and think nothing about how thier ideals would play out on a wider spectrum. Fears about maps curated to certain tastes and such.
Aiseca
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kinda small really :|

spread issues :
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/875083/discussion/-/generalAll#/694219
abraker
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Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

levesterz
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abraker wrote:

Meh it's a relatively cool 15 deg C

Tho what the hell is this

Bunch of cancer(hororscope one) emoji.
Serraionga
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abraker wrote:

Tho what the hell is this

didn't you know that most nominators are also top-tier comedians
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Consistency issues:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/829956/discussion/1738992/general/pending
abraker
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Added.

How much variation does there need to be for the map to be unenjoyable due to inconsistency? Likewise how much variation should be present in a map so that it's not boring due to repeatition?
Aiseca
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Lol the drama blew up so quickly.
By the time of my report, it was just like 14 pending, now it's 54 (O_O!)
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abraker wrote:

How much variation does there need to be for the map to be unenjoyable due to inconsistency? Likewise how much variation should be present in a map so that it's not boring due to repeatition?


Based on my modding experience, I think inconsistency can be called if a similar rhythm was mapped in a completely different way than the previous [mostly occurring on full length songs] (ex* the rhythm was first mapped as sliders with sharp angles at the first kiai; then you mapped the same rhythm on the second half, but this time mapped as stacked sliderheads.)

Variation (according to some people) needs in order to make a section not look like a half-assed copy pasted section of the former mapped part. But also variation in a sense that it should maintain the core structure of the rhythm itself [like jumps, emphasis, movement, flow + other subjective s*it that was not known to most new mappers now described at wiki.]

People's perception of these seems to differ in weight in terms on how they judge a map whether it was inconsistent and or too much variation.

If a map should be mapped exactly the same; the map would suffer a lackluster quality.

If a map doesn't have that much of a visual variation; the map would suffer a lackluster appeal.

In the end mapping is really easy; ranking tho..... Lolz.
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abraker
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an old one

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4450590 - The now famous map Reol - Asymmetry was DQ'd, resetting the scoreboards and prompting rage from players for loss of pp
Serraionga
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Serraionga
oh hey, that's one of my favorites
i still remember it like it was yesterday

fuck a donkey
Aiseca
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Aiseca
I found this to be somewhat entertaining:
A mod about timing in the song that made the mapper go clueless about the timing Gods' discussion. 😂

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/889855/discussion/1860169/general#/706067
abraker
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An amusing read indeed. Its highlight in this thread shall be featured in your post.
AyeAries
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nice, mv1 and mv2 categorized :!:
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Diff spike argument; mapper finds it okay while the BNs and QAT don't.
P.S. Lasse's comment is funny :D
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/888498/discussion/1857124/timeline#/710383
abraker
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Yea there is a fine line to walk across when it comes to making patterns that allow the player feel the impact vs not making it so hard. That said, I don't know what kind of full screen jumos those are, but I have played plenty in older maps.
Aiseca
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abraker wrote:

Yea there is a fine line to walk across when it comes to making patterns that allow the player feel the impact vs not making it so hard. That said, I don't know what kind of full screen jumos those are, but I have played plenty in older maps.

Full screen jumps is allowed I assume in a few conditions:

1 - if the jumps were supported by a very obvious big sounds in the music.

2 - if the screen jumps were present only in ultra diff still bearing the first condition stated.

3 - making sure that it is readable and not spamming it across the board..
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My map actually uses a near cross screen 1/2 jump since it's ultra diff. I have to nerf the same thing in expert and lower diffs for compensation.
abraker
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I am talking about full screen jumps in hard and insane. Usually at 1/2 meter at less than 160 bpm.

they shouldn't be exclusive to top tier diffs
Aiseca
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Aiseca

abraker wrote:

I am talking about full screen jumps in hard and insane. Usually at 1/2 meter at less than 160 bpm.

they shouldn't be exclusive to top tier diffs


Hmm... I'm sketchy about screen jumps on hard... It's absurd and creates a huge skill gap between it and lower diffs.

Insane tho is possible for jumps, but half screen to 1/3 is the most conservative I can think of..

Mapping style varies depending on how long the song.

Most insane diff upwards in TV Size maps has ridiculous spacing just to spike up the SR requirements even if it's not that needed really.

On the other hand, full length songs must nerf things down on the same diffs in order to compensate as "the lowest diff available in the map set".
Aiseca
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A long argument about potential over map and forced 2B elements. Random passerby called the mod as a "try hard to DQ for subjective issues". The modder gave up on the mapper on explaining the problem, BNs responded and found the case to be valid and deemed unrankable.

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/866401/discussion/1857321/general#/705570
abraker
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added
levesterz
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levesterz
juicy read
abraker
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Metadata issues then what is veto
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/618352/discussion/-/generalAll#/717671

Anyway, it leads to this
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/851874
levesterz
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Metadata is a pain. Since there to many sources and some may contradicting what is right or wrong way to phrase certain stuff.
abraker
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I think people make too big of a deal out of it. imo it should be sufficient enough to point to the source
levesterz
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Ye . If you able to find that song with that info you are fine
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Complaints about BG being "NSFW" despite it being a legit picture of an art piece.
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/891356/discussion/-/generalAll#/736245
Serraionga
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this person speaks the truth

it's best to change the thing before osu! kiddies start going mental about it, even if it's NSFW or not

"LOL THE BG HAS A BOB O.O Xdddddddddd LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!1"
frutiger aero
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Modder makes a mod about one slider, and then mapper replies with toxic response. It all snowballs from there.
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/881522/discussion/1855754/timeline

tfw you're the modder
abraker
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A double whammy, what a bargain, added!

You can use the heat from these two to make more popcorn



I sometimes imagine what will happen if I apply every mod suggested on the map and at the very end restore the unmodded diff and make the modded an additional difficulty.
Penguin
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Holy shit, I can't believe there's that much discussion about a map's bg that is a classical art piece with nudity in it.
abraker
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new one added:

QAT dq's map with a template style post and questionable reasons
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3366223
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Rhythm introduction seems like overmapped; modder told the mapper that the intro is way harder than the latter part because of confusing spacing usage and other stuff:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/878508/discussion/-/generalAll#/748123 leads to https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/878508/discussion/1837350/timeline#/736669
abraker
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That was like someone trying to light a fire but only got a fizzle and some snoke
Aiseca
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Aiseca

abraker wrote:

That was like someone trying to light a fire but only got a fizzle and some snoke

That's what happens when mapping OCD kicks in I guess.
abraker
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Not particularly drama, but a certain baka
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/738265/discussion/1825240/timeline#/619566
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Huh, Ashton battling three at the same time?
Too bad for the poor parrot...
Penguin
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Penguin
oops
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/855907?start=unread
abraker
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> debating quality in a loved map candidate

I lol. That is depressing
Serraionga
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i mean after seeing this in loved i pretty much stopped taking that section seriously

i don't know if there's been improvements on what people can get to loved ever since, i stopped caring long ago and i'm glad i did

fartownik was right
abraker
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People seem to like trash



So what is the problem? Loved works just as intended.
levesterz
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Inb4 a whole thread about quality of loved map now
Stefan
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the true drama happens behind the scene
ColdTooth
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Stefan wrote:

the true drama happens behind the scene
Wise words to live by.
abraker
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pull the curtain then
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Let me grab some popcorn,I want to be entertained.
abraker
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which one?

levesterz
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Soo many flavour @@
Aiseca
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Aiseca
The plain one, shower it with chili and it should be good.
levesterz
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levesterz
I like my popcorn salty
ColdTooth
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ColdTooth
I like mine buttered heavily and salted.
Ashton
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Ashton
A light, sweet and salty popcorn flavour with a cup of tea always hits the spot.
Dialect
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/4422#osu/379106

map gets ranked after 10 years
Penguin
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Penguin

MinNin wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/4422#osu/379106

map gets ranked after 10 years
This isn't drama tho

I'll take Chocolate Peanut Butter Drizzle btw
Aiseca
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MinNin wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/4422#osu/379106

map gets ranked after 10 years


I can call this a mapping milestone really.
One of the best speed-ranked mapped ever in history.
Aiseca
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After numerous mods the mapper received from known Mappers and ordinary modders, the mapper succumbed to the stress of making his map polished; mapper decided to throw out the towel and call it quits, abandoning the map.

https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/855964/discussion/1789949/general#/723326
abraker
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contender for most anticlimactic drama right there
Aiseca
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Aiseca
Meah, please stop doing that on this thread.
Just please.
Penguin
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/892080/discussion/-/generalAll#/763797

juicy
fat pear
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https://redd.it/ajjtm4
beatmap nominator Net0 resticted because of tiddy bg

edit: fk the guy above beat me to it
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Serraionga
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define stubborn
Nowaie
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Nowaie
Old mapper wants to wipe himself off the osu completely, proceeds to try to get his own maps DMCA'd
https://twitter.com/pasonia/status/1088598908257787904
https://twitter.com/pasonia/status/1088701593615196161?s=19

Also he made a storyboard referencing the hiroshima bombings way back when and is called out on it again when the net0 thing is going on
https://twitter.com/MismagiusBD/status/1088460056331354113
https://twitter.com/MismagiusBD/status/1088432445622493184


Additional drama in the map thread (got deleted), have some nice screencaps
https://imgur.com/a/A4kio76
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Endaris
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Wow, lol.
You would think BD would have grown up at some point but then he pulls stuff like that.
Aiseca
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Huh, we barely taking off January and these kind of stuff in the mapping scene is just surprising, huh...

I just expressed my opinions the other day about what should be the clear standards of BG being NSFW, and yet, here we are going back in circles on the Same problem.....
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Note to self:I really should be putting up the bingo card soon.....
These kind of stuff is very rare to happen..
abraker
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Happy popcorn day, guys!


also an old one for the mix in the bag

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/293502 - Mapper does 1/3 and creates a poorly timed map


Also excited for the bingo .`.`.`.`.`.`. . .
Penguin
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https://osu.ppy.sh/b/499713

here's an older piece of drama

drama starts around page 19
abraker
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> page 19

> is modding v2

Aiseca
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@abraker
Remember when you said that they should make a thread about the NSFW issue?
It is already out now. Wanna share your views on this subject matter?
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860531?start=unread
Froslass
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Endaris wrote:

Wow, lol.
You would think BD would have grown up at some point but then he pulls stuff like that.
i seriously dont see exactly how i was immature there
abraker
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Aiseca wrote:

@abraker

Remember when you said that they should make a thread about the NSFW issue?

It is already out now. Wanna share your views on this subject matter?

https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/860531?start=unread
The other issue was regarding use of historical artwork featuring nudity. As I was building the case, there were a couple things standing in the way of proving that bg was indeed acceptable, primarily proof of instances where such works of art is allowable in public display. I pm'd the mapper regarding building a case for it, with open ends to fill in the blanks of proving it, but the mapper never replied back. I checked the map and the mapper changed the bg, so I don't think there will be any support to change the rule in that regard anytime soon.
Penguin
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Mismagius wrote:

Endaris wrote:

Wow, lol.
You would think BD would have grown up at some point but then he pulls stuff like that.
i seriously dont see exactly how i was immature there
He might've just been confused and was meaning to talk about how Pasonia was acting. I was also questioning what Endaris said lol
Aiseca
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But about the rules written as currently, do you have any thoughts to say on that?
Despacito BG pass through, but Net0 BG was heavily flamed...
Both tiddies, only the number differs
Penguin
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abraker wrote:

> page 19

> is modding v2

wrong link, sorry

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/67968/start=270
Froslass
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either way for archival purposes this tweet explains pretty much what happened https://twitter.com/MismagiusBD/status/1088898723290206208
abraker
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Aiseca wrote:

But about the rules written as currently, do you have any thoughts to say on that?
Despacito BG pass through, but Net0 BG was heavily flamed...
Both tiddies, only the number differs
Reading through it. Might give my thoughts later since I need to be somewhere
abraker
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Before I go, here is a sample of what I suggested in the pm:

I propose to reword the rule to clarify what is considered "obscene" and resolve the contradiction. The following is a simplified version of the Miller Test altered to include violence and drug use. All three conditions have to be satisfied for something be considered obscene:
  1. It can be argued that that the work, taken as a whole, encourages or promotes sexual, violent, or drug related interests
  2. The work depicts or describes ideas/concepts in an offensive manner
  3. The work, taken as a whole, lacks literary, artistic, political, or scientific value
The new rule would remove "This includes nudity, near-nudity, sexual references, violence, drug abuse, etc. Keep things PG (suitable for ages 12+)" and instead better define what is considered obscene:
There must not be any obscene imagery in the background/storyboard/video content. Images should be on a level that can be displayed on all-audience TV, on public signage, and of nature that does not require censoring in any country. Imagery is considered obscene if all of the following three are true:
  1. The work, taken as a whole, encourages or promotes sexual, violent, or drug related interests
  2. The work depicts or describes ideas/concepts in an offensive manner
  3. The work, taken as a whole, lacks literary, artistic, political, or scientific value
[/quote]

This is a long way shorter than the huge list of examples the muscle bird is proposing in the proposed ranking criteria change. See if you can shoot some bullets at this meanwhile.
Aiseca
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If Ephemeral's proposal passes through, this will send a very huge change on the current written rules and possibly break the trends that was happening connected by this issue.

Also, I can see most people would oppose this (you know because: Loli and edgy reasons)
johnmedina999
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This is by far the most petty and pathetic drama in this thread. Eph, you stick in the mud.
abraker
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Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

> page 19

> is modding v2

wrong link, sorry

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/67968/start=270

added
abraker
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https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/6955265

Well there we go *twiddles thumbs*
Penguin
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/761881/discussion/-/generalAll#/767015

not really too dramatic
abraker
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while not drama enough, still funny tho
Endaris
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Mismagius wrote:

Endaris wrote:

Wow, lol.
You would think BD would have grown up at some point but then he pulls stuff like that.

i seriously dont see exactly how i was immature there

You're baiting drama for no particular reason.
Or how should one understand these bits?

You're not trying to help anything or anyone with what you're doing from what I can see. What is the purpose other than your private amusement and if there is any do you really think that this was the correct way to handle it?
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Froslass
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i don't see how simple banter with someone who was insulting the entire community while being a gianf hypocrite is being immature :p

you're taking this too seriously, i think that is an immature thing. so far you're the only person in like 1 thousand who've seen the argument and thought that i was at fault or being immature here. maybe it's some bias from past times? who knows!

either way, this ia a thread to talk about other drama, not create more. if you have any issues with my attitude you're free to PM me, no need to take passive aggressive calls about my past behavior!
Ashton
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uc osmething something anime tiddies something bn kicked osmething..
Aiseca
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Mismagius wrote:

......
either way, this ia a thread to talk about other drama, not create more.....


He is correct on this.
If you want to talk about that particular topic, please do not continue it here.
I am just observing your conversations on these past days hoping that this issue won't be made longer particularly at this thread.

EDIT: Ashton, please don't spit garbage here. Do it somewhere else.
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dennischan
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https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/862261
Raiden’s fallout with the mapping higher-ups like Eph over proposed QAT changes

(Also this is my favorite OT thread)
Aiseca
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EDIT: Not a drama really, just some "interesting" sight to see

Modding V2 2019 people....
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/919719/discussion/-/generalAll#/843100
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abraker
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I found this more amusing
levesterz
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thats the most beautiful disscusion lol
abraker
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/905621/discussion/1890144/general#/885005 - BNs claim map is made for pp gains and the expense of lacking representation of music.
Aiseca
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When PP gains became an "issue" lol?
abraker
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https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/936435/discussion/-/generalAll#/886740 - Marathon diff has name related to mapper. Debates ensue whether this can be allowed.
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Drama regarding an inappropriate background which is unrelated to the song
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/935111/discussion/-/generalAll#/910539

stuff is hell fire in there wew
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