fieryrage wrote:

bro ur like 100k and ur judging a map that's 8.5 stars with no mapping experience l oool

Kynan wrote:

filsdelmao wrote:

You're right. That is indeed contradictory.

How did I expect someone with a nickname like that to get my point, I wonder...

filsdelmao wrote:

You were contradicting yourself in the statement of yours and instead of clearing it up you decide to insult me and my name. Tough guy. But since you seem so concerned about your so called "point", go ahead and explain it in further context as to why this song has a better flow than any of those "PP farm maps" that you... didn't refer to?

Thanks in advance Kynan.

squirrelpascals wrote:

The person who qualified uses light-themed discord, i demand an immediate dq

/s

Naotoshi wrote:

it doesnt apply for quali right

AyanokoRin wrote:

wait a sec isn't 01:31:862 (3) offscreen since that square is supposedly 4:3 play area

Kisses wrote:

wait, did the rating reset because it was previously loved?

Yuii- wrote:

This video describes the whole thread btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJX4ytfqw6k

_DT3 wrote:

Tbh, so many people say drama incoming
looks at the last few pages full of gratz

Gratz btw

Hobbes2 wrote:

Guys, please do not blame Naotoshi for the white discord. That was my screenshot of Naotoshi's text. Please redirect all of your hatred to me.

p.s. white discord for life LUL

grats monstrata!

mindmaster107 wrote:

This map was created to reflect the music. Whether it does that or not, I can't say since i'm not a very good mapper.

What I can add to this conversation is that rankable, doesn't mean playable. If the map reflects the song well, in a way which doesn't break the ranking criteria, it technically deserves to be ranked.
I personally don't want this ranked, since to the player majority, this is the flagship for allowing a "messy" style of mapping to take over. This is probably scare mongering, since all of monstrata's old controversial mapsets have not inspired a wash of quality drop in ranked.
However it's the message which matters here. Objectively it should be ok to rank with no repercussions, but it sends the message to potential mappers "this is ok", even if this map used it's ugliness effectively.

This is my opinion to this whole thing.

I do enjoy eating popcorn on my ledge here.

Hobbes2 wrote:

Guys, please do not blame Naotoshi for the white discord. That was my screenshot of Naotoshi's text. Please redirect all of your hatred to me.

p.s. white discord for life LUL

grats monstrata!

AncuL wrote:

in all seriousness, this map will make more harder maps with weird aesthetics rankable once it's ranked

congrats!!!!!!

Naotoshi wrote:

nobody uses default hitsounding, or the default osu skin..

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.

Monstrata wrote:

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.

Sounds fine o.o

-[ Prxzm ]- wrote:

Monstrata wrote:

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.

Sounds fine o.o

tporter wrote:

Hey, I ain't gonna flame the map if the current version of the .mp3 is rankable, but from my point of view it isn't. If it is, tell me why, because in two places it is very much so stretched.

I found this information out from a video of Will Stetson's, which happens to be taken down so I'll need some clarification of whether or not the information has reached here or not.

Here: 00:11:565 (1,1) -
According to his video, this part of the song is double the length of the original version.
And it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes.

The other point that was noted to be stretched was at here: 01:02:466 (1) -
This section, from Will Stetson's pov, was considerably slower than the video's.
And, again, it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes, again.

Look, to tell you the truth, I don't know if this stops rankability or not, so if it does please explain to me why for some god damn reason this is ranked, because if it shouldn't be because of the song then I'm going to believe that Monstrata can literally rank any song in this game. If it is rankable, I need some insight because I may or may not have done enough research on this.

Monstrata wrote:

Please discuss mp3 editing in the ranking criteria forums. It is not unrankable currently, and I've used it in a few ranked maps anyways. Some big ones are Santa-San

appleeaterx wrote:

because making a full spread (incl a diff <2.00*) is unreasonable for this type of song

[ Eon Fox ] wrote:

It's somewhat depressing to know that qualification doesn't have the ability to stop people truly determined to speed rushjob maps through the process via calling in favours from their friends. Must be kinda like how New Yorkers felt about Boss Tweed in the early 20th century...