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MAXIMUM THE HORMONE - A-L-I-E-N

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Linada

Hobbes2 wrote:

Guys, please do not blame Naotoshi for the white discord. That was my screenshot of Naotoshi's text. Please redirect all of your hatred to me.

p.s. white discord for life LUL

grats monstrata!
BURN
Topic Starter
Monstrata

mindmaster107 wrote:

This map was created to reflect the music. Whether it does that or not, I can't say since i'm not a very good mapper.

What I can add to this conversation is that rankable, doesn't mean playable. If the map reflects the song well, in a way which doesn't break the ranking criteria, it technically deserves to be ranked.
I personally don't want this ranked, since to the player majority, this is the flagship for allowing a "messy" style of mapping to take over. This is probably scare mongering, since all of monstrata's old controversial mapsets have not inspired a wash of quality drop in ranked.
However it's the message which matters here. Objectively it should be ok to rank with no repercussions, but it sends the message to potential mappers "this is ok", even if this map used it's ugliness effectively.

This is my opinion to this whole thing.


I do enjoy eating popcorn on my ledge here.
Do you think any mapper will try the techniques and ideas I've used on this map if they know it'll 1. receive multiple bubble pops and outrage from the community, and 2. result in hundreds of pages of discussion and mapping analysis? If anything, this shows how much trouble mappers need to go through to get anything non-standard and creative ranked.
Shinsekai-
gratz m8
Irreversible
posting so i also posted in that thread once

i mean gz ;D
squirrelpascals

Hobbes2 wrote:

Guys, please do not blame Naotoshi for the white discord. That was my screenshot of Naotoshi's text. Please redirect all of your hatred to me.

p.s. white discord for life LUL

grats monstrata!
Do you people not even read the BNG rules when you get added? Did you just assume you can make discord any color you want? You're 15k dude and a brand new BN, why do you think you can do this?

I think you should be kicked from the BNG for your actions here.
xxdeathx
no i find it strange that dark theme users look down on people that use the default white theme
it's default for a reason
most things have a white background by default
it's you that went out of your way to change the setting
jeanbernard8865
Finally, a discussion that matters
pw384
pR3TtY uG1Y
DigiDrake
Nice one momstrata
AncuL
in all seriousness, this map will make more harder maps with weird aesthetics rankable once it's ranked

congrats!!!!!!
Net0

AncuL wrote:

in all seriousness, this map will make more harder maps with weird aesthetics rankable once it's ranked

congrats!!!!!!
Thanks Mr. Monstrata for that :>
Lhahein
how did this reach 73 pages..
Nao Tomori
defaults for a lot of things suck, for example, nobody uses default hitsounding, or the default osu skin. similarly, using the default white discord is similarly heretical and deserves the utmost punishment. i suggest a strike for hobbes2; maybe irre can oblige.
Mismagius
you take that back, default osu! hitsounds are pretty good (except normal soundset)
Aeril
HEY, I love the normal whistle ;c
DeletedUser_4329079
Default is best.
Shmiklak
Grats
ZekeyHache

Naotoshi wrote:

nobody uses default hitsounding, or the default osu skin..
I do 99% of the time, both default hitsounds and skin 👀 I just use custom hitsounds when they're map specific 👀
Delis
hi
Kyouren
Congrulations!
Xinnoh
Hi, there are some serious issues that need to be addressed before this moves on to rank

alien
  1. 04:37:763 (1) - This is clearly a U and not an O. I'm pretty sure you spell stop with an O so please change that to an O shape regardless of being able to tell between slider head and tail. Representing the song is more important than being able to read it.
  2. 04:28:662 (6) - I fear this stream might be too hard for people to play, please nerf by using sliders.
  3. 03:53:600 (1) - this section needs to use more drum kicks. You only use a kick when guitar changes chord, but a drum never changes pitch! please rectify this by adding more kicks.
[Nemesis]
02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.
Ideal
congratulations on getting #1 in your country ohori :^)
Kilabarus
Finally, Monstrata, you did it! Gratz for ranking this awesome map!
Exote
wo0ow holy sh gratz
Ayesha Altugle
the most beautiful map ever made xd
Topic Starter
Monstrata

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.
Sounds fine o.o
iYiyo
Nice.
As always you doing new/controversial stuffs for the community. Long life Monstrata.
-Sh1n1-
finally!! let's pray for 1 week now, gratz bro
-[ Prxzm ]-
Surono
toomuchmeem
SilverCatalyst

Monstrata wrote:

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.
Sounds fine o.o
no, nemesis is right. i'm 99% sure this is how it's supposed to be timed:
Natteke desu

-[ Prxzm ]- wrote:

i love you
- Frontier -
can someone change to heart icon? :roll:
Topic Starter
Monstrata

Monstrata wrote:

[Nemesis] wrote:

02:21:427 (4,5,1) - timing is off in this section, I suggest you recheck that.
Sounds fine o.o
no, nemesis is right. i'm 99% sure this is how it's supposed to be timed: [/quote]

No, listen to the drum :P. Also what you proposed is unrankable anyways since the slider becomes improperly snapped (and the sliderend would be unsnapped).
SilverCatalyst
my bad, I thought you were mapping vocals in that section :P
but ya i just snapped the sliderhead, didn't mess with properly snapping the end
Swiftrax
Hey, I ain't gonna flame the map if the current version of the .mp3 is rankable, but from my point of view it isn't. If it is, tell me why, because in two places it is very much so stretched.

I found this information out from a video of Will Stetson's, which happens to be taken down so I'll need some clarification of whether or not the information has reached here or not.

Here: 00:11:565 (1,1) -
According to his video, this part of the song is double the length of the original version.
And it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes.

The other point that was noted to be stretched was at here: 01:02:466 (1) -
This section, from Will Stetson's pov, was considerably slower than the video's.
And, again, it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes, again.

Look, to tell you the truth, I don't know if this stops rankability or not, so if it does please explain to me why for some god damn reason this is ranked, because if it shouldn't be because of the song then I'm going to believe that Monstrata can literally rank any song in this game. If it is rankable, I need some insight because I may or may not have done enough research on this.
Mint
because making a full spread (incl a diff <2.00*) is unreasonable for this type of song
-[ Prxzm ]-
jeanbernard8865

tporter wrote:

Hey, I ain't gonna flame the map if the current version of the .mp3 is rankable, but from my point of view it isn't. If it is, tell me why, because in two places it is very much so stretched.

I found this information out from a video of Will Stetson's, which happens to be taken down so I'll need some clarification of whether or not the information has reached here or not.

Here: 00:11:565 (1,1) -
According to his video, this part of the song is double the length of the original version.
And it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes.

The other point that was noted to be stretched was at here: 01:02:466 (1) -
This section, from Will Stetson's pov, was considerably slower than the video's.
And, again, it is.
Link to timepoint on normal A-L-I-E-N for comparison sakes, again.

Look, to tell you the truth, I don't know if this stops rankability or not, so if it does please explain to me why for some god damn reason this is ranked, because if it shouldn't be because of the song then I'm going to believe that Monstrata can literally rank any song in this game. If it is rankable, I need some insight because I may or may not have done enough research on this.
There's nothing in the current ranking criteria which states that the mp3 doesn't have to be extended. It is probably going to be in the future though, as the proposal on t/602728 has a rule against that. You can discuss it there if you'd like to.
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