(K)NoW_NAME - Freesia · forum

LimePixel

Joined March 2015

LimePixel 2017-06-21T14:41:49+00:00

NM from my queue. Sorry for being late :c

[Normal]
-00:45:876 (5,1) - Blanket?
-01:17:376 (5) - What's with the super loud clap?

[LMT's Hard]
-00:04:210 (1,2) - Please make sliders lead into circles perfectly in this case. Looks much better. This happens a lot throughout the map, I won't point out each instance since there are too many. (Example where this is done right is 01:24:210 (1,2) )
-00:12:210 (1) - Second slider anchor is slightly to the left, giving it an angle (Same with 00:13:210 (3) )
-01:17:376 (3) - Same very loud clap for no reason.

[Insane]
-00:51:043 (7,8,9) - No reason to have differences in spacing between each other since the strong sound ends at the end of 00:50:543 (6). So there's no point in emphasizing #7
-00:59:543 (9) - NC, and remove the NC from 01:00:043 (1) ?

Honestly, don't give me a kudosu for this, please. I couldn't really find anything else wrong, bcs of lacking time to play it more than twice.
Good luck

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-06-21T17:23:58+00:00

LimePixel wrote:
[LMT's Hard]
-00:04:210 (1,2) - Please make sliders lead into circles perfectly in this case. Looks much better. This happens a lot throughout the map, I won't point out each instance since there are too many. (Example where this is done right is 01:24:210 (1,2) ) stylistic choice, also just lead straight into is boring tbh
-00:12:210 (1) - Second slider anchor is slightly to the left, giving it an angle (Same with 00:13:210 (3) ) fixed
-01:17:376 (3) - Same very loud clap for no reason. red tick rhythm which is quite odd compared to the rest

Thanks for the mod!

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osu file format v14

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AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 57543
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.7

[Metadata]
Title:Freesia
TitleUnicode:Freesia
Artist:(K)NoW_NAME
ArtistUnicode:(K)NoW_NAME
Creator:LeKhanhHoa
Version:LMT's Hard
Source:サクラクエスト
Tags:Sakura Quest know name anime ed ending lmt
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Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-06-22T01:13:41+00:00

LimePixel wrote:
NM from my queue. Sorry for being late :c

[Normal]
-00:45:876 (5,1) - Blanket? OK
-01:17:376 (5) - What's with the super loud clap? I think it's fitting there

[Insane]
-00:51:043 (7,8,9) - No reason to have differences in spacing between each other since the strong sound ends at the end of 00:50:543 (6). So there's no point in emphasizing #7 There's a big clap at 00:51:210 (8) - thou, hence the spacing
-00:59:543 (9) - NC, and remove the NC from 01:00:043 (1) ? Nah, consistent vocal NC

Honestly, don't give me a kudosu for this, please. I couldn't really find anything else wrong, bcs of lacking time to play it more than twice. I think you deserved it. Even if I don't fix anything, you still give me suggestion, which is valuable. But I do fix some spot, so I will just give you one
Good luck

Thanks for the mod!

Aeril

Beatmap Nominator

666 posts

Joined May 2014

Aeril 2017-06-22T22:17:19+00:00

cool song

[Insane]

00:05:709 (4,5) - move the slider on 5 up so it breaks the flow as it is a different sound and it would match the way you mapped the rest of these in the beginning.
00:18:543 (1,2,3,4) - you need to focus an instrument, here you focus vocals but 00:21:210 (1,2,3,4) - here you focus the guitars and percussion.
00:21:043 (4) - theres no note here
00:23:710 (4) - theres no note here
00:35:210 - up until here you need to look back on rhythm because you switch focus too much and it isnt intuitive to play.
01:12:210 (5) - space this out from 01:11:543 (3) - this one so it matches the rest of the spacing around objects that you do
01:18:876 (1,2,3,4) - the angle you have here is too wide and doesnt match the rest of these

[Easy]

00:17:543 (1) - remove nc here, i suggest lowering frequency of ncs during calm parts in easy as it would match the feel of the music. also goes for 00:22:876 (1) - 00:28:210 (1) - 00:33:543 (1) - .
00:35:543 (1) - dont add ncs like this, it will possibly confuse new players and having ncs like this well screw with the hp drain. also remove 00:46:210 (1) - this one.
00:56:210 (1) - one remove nc, two i think it would be better to have this be a slider then hit circle to increase build up to the kiai.
01:17:210 (3) - is the whistle on the end of this a mistake?

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-06-23T01:01:54+00:00

Aeril wrote:
cool song
[Insane]
00:05:709 (4,5) - move the slider on 5 up so it breaks the flow as it is a different sound and it would match the way you mapped the rest of these in the beginning. OK
00:18:543 (1,2,3,4) - you need to focus an instrument, here you focus vocals but 00:21:210 (1,2,3,4) - here you focus the guitars and percussion. I do think 00:21:210 (1,2,3,4) - both sliderhead lands on vocals thou
00:21:043 (4) - theres no note here Removed
00:23:710 (4) - theres no note here Removed
00:35:210 - up until here you need to look back on rhythm because you switch focus too much and it isnt intuitive to play. Hmmm, I think it stills follow the vocals nicely thou
01:12:210 (5) - space this out from 01:11:543 (3) - this one so it matches the rest of the spacing around objects that you do I don't know how to explain it here, but it's to be consistent with the similar part before it
01:18:876 (1,2,3,4) - the angle you have here is too wide and doesnt match the rest of these I meant it as an indication for the end of the song
[Easy]
00:17:543 (1) - remove nc here, i suggest lowering frequency of ncs during calm parts in easy as it would match the feel of the music. also goes for 00:22:876 (1) - 00:28:210 (1) - 00:33:543 (1) - . Guess I will cut it down
00:35:543 (1) - dont add ncs like this, it will possibly confuse new players and having ncs like this well screw with the hp drain. also remove 00:46:210 (1) - this one. I mean, this is like the transition part, and I want to keep it this way for pretty-looking and some consistency with other diff
00:56:210 (1) - one remove nc, two i think it would be better to have this be a slider then hit circle to increase build up to the kiai. The NC part is explained similarly like above, and I kinda don't understand what you mean about the slider part thou
01:17:210 (3) - is the whistle on the end of this a mistake? consistency, I believe

Thanks for your mod!

Hikan

430 posts

Joined February 2016

Hikan 2017-06-24T07:15:26+00:00

hù

Ins

00:07:876 (1,2,3,4) - làm cho đều lại
00:15:376 (2,3,1) - gap khác nhau, để (3) half stack với 00:14:876 (1) - thôi
00:16:210 (2,3,4) - tam giác đều sẽ đẹp hơn
00:20:876 (3) - để qua 480 45 thì sẽ rõ cái gap hơn
00:22:876 (1,2) - blanket
00:26:043 (2,3,1) - như trên, gap khác nhau, player dễ nhầm, 00:28:710 (2,3,1) -
00:35:543 (5,6) - để 1/2 slider thôi? như vậy overmap tick xanh quá
00:37:543 (5,6) - cho nó hướng vô trong, distance như vậy từ 6 tới 7 hơi xa https://puu.sh/wsP7Y/abe1e2e4bd.png
00:38:876 (1,2,4) - tam giác thì sao
00:44:043 (4) - 0 90 để hợp với hướng của slider
00:45:543 (1) - cá nhân ctrl g cai này thì flow 00:44:876 (4,5,6,1) - cái này ngon hơn
00:58:043 (2) - stack 00:56:543 (4) - cho có structure
01:00:876 (5) - ở đây hơi ngượng
01:02:876 (1,2,3) - như vậy thì không biết đang emphasis cái nào, để 2 gần lại chút
01:18:210 (2) - ctrl g? cho hợp flow với 01:17:544 (5,1) -
01:20:543 (5,5,5) - mấy cái này nghe nó dừng ở tick xanh cơ, check lại xem thế nào 01:21:043 - 01:23:710 - 01:26:376 - . Với lại cũng overmap cái 5, thử rhythm này xem thế nào https://puu.sh/wsPqR/73a1e966a6.png

LMT

00:13:876 (1) - đuôi reverse nó hướng ra ngoài

00:26:876 (2,3,4) - reverse slider? như vậy có hơi dense mặc dù không mạnh lắm
00:24:210 (2,3) - shit overlap

N

Ar 4.5 thôi
00:16:376 (4,5) - stack hẳn luôn thì dễ nhìn hơn
00:19:210 - overmap, 1 cái slider dài thôi
00:33:876 - vocal

00:57:543 (1,2,3,4) - https://puu.sh/wsPPg/3c0c84065f.png
01:00:210 (1) - để qua tick xanh để follow vocal rõ hơn, Normal nên cũng cần follow chút chút chứ đừng undermap nhiều quá
01:08:210 (1) - 3/4 thì sao, 01:10:876 (1) -

Ez

00:54:876 (1,1) - 1 shape thôi để hợp với pattern hơn

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-06-24T08:41:59+00:00

Hikan wrote:
hù sợ
Ins
00:07:876 (1,2,3,4) - làm cho đều lại rồi
00:15:376 (2,3,1) - gap khác nhau, để (3) half stack với 00:14:876 (1) - thôi uhm
00:16:210 (2,3,4) - tam giác đều sẽ đẹp hơn cố gắng
00:20:876 (3) - để qua 480 45 thì sẽ rõ cái gap hơn uhm
00:22:876 (1,2) - blanket T thấy đẹp nhất rồi
00:26:043 (2,3,1) - như trên, gap khác nhau, player dễ nhầm, 00:28:710 (2,3,1) - sửa
00:35:543 (5,6) - để 1/2 slider thôi? như vậy overmap tick xanh quá Có sao đâu? T thik để vocal trên sliderhead ở chỗ này
00:37:543 (5,6) - cho nó hướng vô trong, distance như vậy từ 6 tới 7 hơi xa https://puu.sh/wsP7Y/abe1e2e4bd.png uhm
00:38:876 (1,2,4) - tam giác thì sao Tạm
00:44:043 (4) - 0 90 để hợp với hướng của slider Rồi
00:45:543 (1) - cá nhân ctrl g cai này thì flow 00:44:876 (4,5,6,1) - cái này ngon hơn Uhm
00:58:043 (2) - stack 00:56:543 (4) - cho có structure Uhm
01:00:876 (5) - ở đây hơi ngượng ...
01:02:876 (1,2,3) - như vậy thì không biết đang emphasis cái nào, để 2 gần lại chút rồi
01:18:210 (2) - ctrl g? cho hợp flow với 01:17:544 (5,1) - Thích để flow đi lên ở chỗ này
01:20:543 (5,5,5) - mấy cái này nghe nó dừng ở tick xanh cơ, check lại xem thế nào 01:21:043 - 01:23:710 - 01:26:376 - . Với lại cũng overmap cái 5, thử rhythm này xem thế nào https://puu.sh/wsPqR/73a1e966a6.png Chỗ này là muốn overmap vậy. Đoạn sau thì Hòa lại nghĩ để ở 01:21:210 - hợp hơn, do nhạc ở đoạn đó tự nhiên dịu xuống
N
Ar 4.5 thôi Rồi
00:16:376 (4,5) - stack hẳn luôn thì dễ nhìn hơn Dạ thôi, để distance snap thôi. Hòa kị stack trong Normal lắm
00:19:210 - overmap, 1 cái slider dài thôi Rồi
00:33:876 - vocal Dạ, nhưng 00:34:043 - có tiếng to hơn, nên để ở đây sẽ nghe đc hơn. Also, consistency
00:57:543 (1,2,3,4) - https://puu.sh/wsPPg/3c0c84065f.png I prefer the current pattern vì nhiều lí do. 1. 00:57:876 - there's a sound here. 2. Đoạn này để vocal vầy thấy đc hơn
01:00:210 (1) - để qua tick xanh để follow vocal rõ hơn, Normal nên cũng cần follow chút chút chứ đừng undermap nhiều quá Đâu undermap nhiều lắm đâu và ko muốn kip downbeat và cái sound nằm trên nó
01:08:210 (1) - 3/4 thì sao, 01:10:876 (1) - Rồi
Ez
00:54:876 (1,1) - 1 shape thôi để hợp với pattern hơn Rồi

Hai domo arigatou

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-06-24T09:56:55+00:00

Hikan wrote:
hù

LMT
00:13:876 (1) - đuôi reverse nó hướng ra ngoài luồn vào trong
00:26:876 (2,3,4) - reverse slider? như vậy có hơi dense mặc dù không mạnh lắm thế thì lại thưa quá
00:24:210 (2,3) - shit overlap lol f

tksss

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anna apple

1,245 posts

Joined March 2014

anna apple 2017-06-30T23:19:42+00:00

general
double the bpm, to fix sv you do only half of base and it fixes. double bpm makes more sense even if song is calmer

insane
00:04:210 - really like this intro
00:28:376 - there isn't a vocal hold here so you shouldn't skip this one
00:16:210 (2,3) - how come this is a jump, you should try to focus on one instrument and not try to emphasize all of them
00:33:876 - normally you have the vocal sounds clickable so this should be to 1/4 sliders
00:35:210 - this color hax emphasis hardly works because there is barely anything different in the song and you mapped it barely differently so no point
00:52:543 (2) - this should be two circles for the reason of clickability on vocal sounds, legit 00:53:210 (4,5) - shown here
00:40:876 (1,2) - and 00:46:210 (1,2) - are the same strength but only one is color haxed ???
good ending too,
just make sure you make the vocals clickable for clarity cuz rn its a little inconsistent

lmt hard
01:14:710 (3,4,5) - I think this should follow the vocals more closely since kiai before this follows vocals pretty closely and this one is d

normal
00:48:543 (3,4) - this blanket forces awkward movement that you don't really do before

easy

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-01T01:56:48+00:00

borborygmos wrote:
general
double the bpm, to fix sv you do only half of base and it fixes. double bpm makes more sense even if song is calmer I took the timing from another bubbled map, so I think it fits. Besides, metronome will sound more fitting at 90 BPM

insane
00:04:210 - really like this intro thanks
00:28:376 - there isn't a vocal hold here so you shouldn't skip this one oh yeah thanks
00:16:210 (2,3) - how come this is a jump, you should try to focus on one instrument and not try to emphasize all of them ok nerf
00:33:876 - normally you have the vocal sounds clickable so this should be to 1/4 sliders there's no vocals here and I prefer consistency
00:35:210 - this color hax emphasis hardly works because there is barely anything different in the song and you mapped it barely differently so no point It's different because it's a small stream and the white sound I use is to emphasize changes to pattern
00:52:543 (2) - this should be two circles for the reason of clickability on vocal sounds, legit 00:53:210 (4,5) - shown here 00:52:710 - There's no vocal here so I prefer 1/4 slider
00:40:876 (1,2) - and 00:46:210 (1,2) - are the same strength but only one is color haxed ??? I do think 00:46:210 - is the similar pattern to 00:35:543 - so the colorhaxing is like that
good ending too, Thanks!
just make sure you make the vocals clickable for clarity cuz rn its a little inconsistent IDK. It seems fine to me

normal
00:48:543 (3,4) - this blanket forces awkward movement that you don't really do before I mean, 00:47:543 (2,3,4) - This part use the same copy - paste pattern from 00:36:876 (2,3,4) - so there's that

easy

Thanks for your mod!

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-01T09:56:07+00:00

borborygmos wrote:
lmt hard
01:14:710 (3,4,5) - I think this should follow the vocals more closely since kiai before this follows vocals pretty closely and this one is d I would follow it if the vocal rhythm itself were denser tbh. It's way too sparse and kinda uninteresting to follow closely. Fair point otherwise tho

thanks for the mod!!

Stack

osu! Alumni

729 posts

Joined March 2015

Stack 2017-07-02T16:01:55+00:00

Not 100% sure if I'm going to mod this but the mp3 sounded so bad,
Here is a better one wih 192 kbps, you will have to adjust the offset though
http://puu.sh/wzNyN/e87cc1a84c.mp3

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-03T00:57:31+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
Not 100% sure if I'm going to mod this but the mp3 sounded so bad,
Here is a better one wih 192 kbps, you will have to adjust the offset though
http://puu.sh/wzNyN/e87cc1a84c.mp3

Yes, thanks a lot for the better mp3. If you could mod this, it would be great. But if you can't or don't want to, then that's fine as well

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-03T03:51:29+00:00

offfset ~ -20ms

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-03T07:52:13+00:00

LMT wrote:
offfset ~ -20ms

Blan_C

306 posts

Joined March 2016

Blan_C 2017-07-04T13:32:32+00:00

Hello, NM from my queue
Insane

Overally i think hitsounds on 00:15:496 (1) - 00:18:163 (1) - etc are a bit too loud, try decrasing volume of the hs mp3 file a bit.
00:15:496 (1,2) - you can improve this blanket
00:23:496 (1,2) - ^
01:09:496 (3,4) - ^
00:45:830 (5) - Try moving this to 412:42 to make it more flowy (anti clockwise movement from 00:44:663 (4) - )
01:00:663 (1,2) - Please ctrl g this. That way you will support guitars and 'nnnn' vocal sound

Map is really good. I tried hard and couldnt find more. Good luck!

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-04T14:11:33+00:00

Blan_C wrote:
Hello, NM from my queue
Insane
Overally i think hitsounds on 00:15:496 (1) - 00:18:163 (1) - etc are a bit too loud, try decrasing volume of the hs mp3 file a bit. Probably 40% would be fine, right?
00:15:496 (1,2) - you can improve this blanket tried
00:23:496 (1,2) - ^ I mean, this is just copypaste rotate slider, so it's hard to judge where would it makes a good blanket, but I'll try
01:09:496 (3,4) - ^ OK
00:45:830 (5) - Try moving this to 412:42 to make it more flowy (anti clockwise movement from 00:44:663 (4) - ) Yes I see what you mean.
But the angle you suggest was diffent from the usual, so I tone it down a bit
01:00:663 (1,2) - Please ctrl g this. That way you will support guitars and 'nnnn' vocal sound sure
Map is really good. I tried hard and couldnt find more. Good luck!

Thanks for your mod!

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2017-07-04T20:48:35+00:00

[

General:]

I got offset 4,826. Your timing sounds late.. :thinking:

[

Easy:]

00:44:826 (1,2,3) - THis would be super cool if it was less dense because of the quieter vocals. Ex: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8511245
01:10:826 (3) - Circles do better here because it gives more emphasis in terms of 01:11:492 (1) - being a vocal section.

[

Normal:]

00:36:830 (1) - Why not x:40 y:132? That overlapping slider tail is pretty unattractive and while my suggestion doesn't go with your distance snap, it's not off to the point where it disturbs the legibility of the map.
00:52:163 (5,1) - This looks heavily unpolished; this overlap here. How about this? It doesn't touch the hp bar and helps give it a cleaner look.
00:56:830 (1,2) - Circles would do amazing here to give those drums a boost of emphasis and allow for a difficult build up. I get you tried to emphasize with a new slider shape, but personally, I don't think that'll be as noticeable to players as circles.
01:17:996 (5) - I would take off this clap, it's super loud and isn't going to anything. Really distracting.

[

Hard:]

00:12:830 (1,3) - These should be straight vertically, it just looks nicer aesthetically and matches it's prior similar patterns better.
01:17:996 (3) - Again, that clap is super offputting. At least quiet it down...

[

Afteword:]

Your hitsound choice for the kiai is extremely underwhelming and I think using drum-hitnormal as a snare didn't do too well. Try something louder and more noticeable from the soft hit normal.

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-05T01:02:03+00:00

PolkaMocha wrote:

[General:]
I got offset 4,826. Your timing sounds late.. :thinking: 4ms. I will get it check
[Easy:]
00:44:826 (1,2,3) - THis would be super cool if it was less dense because of the quieter vocals. Ex: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8511245 Yes, I notice that the vocals are quieter, but I prefer some consistency. And the pattern here is not that hard, thou.
01:10:826 (3) - Circles do better here because it gives more emphasis in terms of 01:11:492 (1) - being a vocal section.But isn't 01:10:830 (3) - is also a vocal section?
[Normal:]
00:36:830 (1) - Why not x:40 y:132? That overlapping slider tail is pretty unattractive and while my suggestion doesn't go with your distance snap, it's not off to the point where it disturbs the legibility of the map. Fair enough.
00:52:163 (5,1) - This looks heavily unpolished; this overlap here. How about this? It doesn't touch the hp bar and helps give it a cleaner look. OK
00:56:830 (1,2) - Circles would do amazing here to give those drums a boost of emphasis and allow for a difficult build up. I get you tried to emphasize with a new slider shape, but personally, I don't think that'll be as noticeable to players as circles. I tried
01:17:996 (5) - I would take off this clap, it's super loud and isn't going to anything. Really distracting.I think this is for consistency since on Insane, there's a triplet here and it sounds alot better
[Afteword:]
Your hitsound choice for the kiai is extremely underwhelming and I think using drum-hitnormal as a snare didn't do too well. Try something louder and more noticeable from the soft hit normal. I'm not the one who hitsounds so I can't answer this

Thanks for your mod!

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-05T06:30:22+00:00

PolkaMocha wrote:
[Hard:]
00:12:830 (1,3) - These should be straight vertically, it just looks nicer aesthetically and matches it's prior similar patterns better. prior similar patterns are intentionally slightly off too. It looks too mechanical (and hence unfitting with the rest of the map) being perfectly vertical.
01:17:996 (3) - Again, that clap is super offputting. At least quiet it down... not in charge of the hitsounds but that is to denote an irregular rhythm and that's a good way to do it

thanks for the mod!!

Stack

osu! Alumni

729 posts

Joined March 2015

Stack 2017-07-07T17:25:02+00:00

And I'm back for the nm

General
Your bg is .png, change it to .jpg for a smaller filesize

Insane
00:39:830 (3) - this note does not have the extra drum sound like 00:39:496 (1) - does and should therefor not have more spacing

00:38:830 (1) - don't really see the logic in your nc's on this part, it causes for some really short combo's like the one I jsut pointed out

00:42:830 (4,5,6) - this is like almost exactly the same sound so I would try to make sure that you have a sharp angle at 00:43:163 (5) - so they also feel similar to 00:42:163 (1,2,3) -

00:47:496 (1) - sound is really loud so why lower spacing here

00:50:163 (1,2,3,4) - your other 1234 jumps had a clear structure into grouping them into groups of 2 which is not really visible here

01:05:996 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps flow a bit unpredictable with them changing flow direction alot

01:08:163 (1,2,3,4) - These sounds are pretty loud and you emphasize the repeating nature of it well by stacking but why are they so close when 01:07:163 (1,2,3,4) - is like alot further apart

01:08:830 (1) - some more spacing on this to emphasize this wouldn't hurt either

01:10:163 (5) - angling under a -30 degree corner would make you pattern keep the circular flow better

01:19:163 (3,4) - emphasize the vocal here more by placing a 1/4 slider instead, this way you also get al larger contrast between this part and 01:19:496 (1,2,3,4) - which only exists out of circles

This map would be alot better if it was consistent when and for what the ds changes,
ex 00:48:830 (5,6,7,8) - you give 7 alot more spacing and that is good but you also gave 5 more spacing which is in no way loud enough to warrant even more spacing to

ex2 00:52:830 (1,2,3) - : 3 has an added sound on the sliderhead but it's mapped in the same pattern as if it was the exact same.
You actually gave the bonus sound more spacing at 00:54:830 (3) - so that makes it having less spacing here even weirder

Overall, it's still pretty good though

Also, my name is spelled incorrectly in the description lol
Gl with the map

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-08T01:19:22+00:00

gottagof4ast wrote:
And I'm back for the nm

General
Your bg is .png, change it to .jpg for a smaller filesize
done

Insane
00:39:830 (3) - this note does not have the extra drum sound like 00:39:496 (1) - does and should therefor not have more spacing ok changed

00:38:830 (1) - don't really see the logic in your nc's on this part, it causes for some really short combo's like the one I jsut pointed out I try to combo following the vocals and make it as relevant as possible, so this is the best result imo

00:42:830 (4,5,6) - this is like almost exactly the same sound so I would try to make sure that you have a sharp angle at 00:43:163 (5) - so they also feel similar to 00:42:163 (1,2,3) - I mean, the angle here doesn't really matter as the ds between the 2 circles are relatively small, so there's that

00:47:496 (1) - sound is really loud so why lower spacing here consistency with the first part. also, sometimes I use this to signify changes

00:50:163 (1,2,3,4) - your other 1234 jumps had a clear structure into grouping them into groups of 2 which is not really visible here ok changed

01:05:996 (1,2,3,4,5) - these jumps flow a bit unpredictable with them changing flow direction alot I mean, this is sharp angle. also, this pattern is pretty much similar to the star in the previous pattern, the only that forces it not to be a star is that I can't create one without disgusting overlap,
so ...

01:08:163 (1,2,3,4) - These sounds are pretty loud and you emphasize the repeating nature of it well by stacking but why are they so close when 01:07:163 (1,2,3,4) - is like alot further apart increased

01:08:830 (1) - some more spacing on this to emphasize this wouldn't hurt either since the previous one got ds increase, so this one should be as well

01:10:163 (5) - angling under a -30 degree corner would make you pattern keep the circular flow better Want to keep 01:09:496 (3,5,6) -
as neat as it is

01:19:163 (3,4) - emphasize the vocal here more by placing a 1/4 slider instead, this way you also get al larger contrast between this part and 01:19:496 (1,2,3,4) - which only exists out of circles There are 2 drum sounds at 01:19:163 (3,4) - so I want to keep it as 2 circles to emphasize it,
also, I do believe the color part give enough contrast to the 2 part

This map would be alot better if it was consistent when and for what the ds changes,
ex 00:48:830 (5,6,7,8) - you give 7 alot more spacing and that is good but you also gave 5 more spacing which is in no way loud enough to warrant even more spacing to ok this part is terrible, changed

ex2 00:52:830 (1,2,3) - : 3 has an added sound on the sliderhead but it's mapped in the same pattern as if it was the exact same.
You actually gave the bonus sound more spacing at 00:54:830 (3) - so that makes it having less spacing here even weirder vocal consistecy I believe

Overall, it's still pretty good though

Also, my name is spelled incorrectly in the description lol oh snap, sorry hehe
Gl with the map

Thanks for your mod!

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-07-08T04:11:43+00:00

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

irc

09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Yami ơi
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Rảnh ko em?
09:27 Yamicchi: rảnh
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Rồi
09:27 LeKhanhHoa: Check hộ t coi t phá map tới đâu 

rồi
09:27 Yamicchi: :))
09:27 Yamicchi: ok
09:28 Yamicchi: insane hử
09:28 LeKhanhHoa: uhm
09:28 Yamicchi: để redl cái
09:28 LeKhanhHoa: ok
09:28 Yamicchi: nhìn cái default bg ngứa mắt quá
09:29 Yamicchi: 00:09:496 (6) - tao nhớ có 1 cái 

hitsound khá hợp chỗ này
09:29 Yamicchi: mà lâu quá quên mất nó nằm trong 

set nào rồi
09:29 LeKhanhHoa: Thế sao t nhớ :P
09:31 Yamicchi: 00:15:496 (1) - đấy hitsound ngon 

lành lên liền
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Hai hai
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Arigatou
09:32 Yamicchi: 00:26:163 (1) - xa ra tí em
09:32 Yamicchi: spacing confuse quá
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Ghi hết đi
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: Lát t reply
09:32 LeKhanhHoa: H t đi mua đồ cái
09:32 Yamicchi: 

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy

yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
09:33 Yamicchi: 00:43:830 (2) - stack hoặc là overlap 

nghệ thuật
09:33 Yamicchi: nửa vời kiểu này...
09:33 Yamicchi: 00:46:163 (1) - dời nó qua phải hẳn 

luôn, overlap vầy xấu
09:34 Yamicchi: 00:46:830 (1) - bỏ NC cũng đc
09:35 Yamicchi: 01:10:163 (5) - 
09:35 Yamicchi: cầm 01:10:496 (6) - xoay 240*, đặt ở 

X336 Y144
09:35 Yamicchi: better flow
09:36 Yamicchi: 01:19:496 (1) - cái này hoặc là phải 

bẻ flow hoặc là tăng spacing, hoặc cả 2
09:36 Yamicchi: 01:19:330 (4,1,2) - linear quá
09:36 Yamicchi: tiếp, tới NC
09:37 Yamicchi: 00:09:163 (5,6) - t hiểu tại sao m làm 

vầy, cơ mà tại cái pattern này lặp có 3 lần thôi nên 

thành ra cái này nó lẻ
09:37 Yamicchi: cho thành 1/2 reverse luôn là đc
09:37 Yamicchi: 00:18:163 (1) - spacing cũng hơi nhỏ
09:38 Yamicchi: à mà thôi
09:38 Yamicchi: cũng kh tới nổi tệ
09:38 LeKhanhHoa: Deny all thanks
09:38 LeKhanhHoa: Chờ t tí
09:39 Yamicchi: 00:32:163 (3) - ở đây hồi nãy m chọn 

là 1 circle
09:39 Yamicchi: giờ sao thành 1 slider rồi
09:39 Yamicchi: 00:21:496 (3) - 
09:40 Yamicchi: 00:35:496 (1) - bỏ CN
09:40 Yamicchi: NC
09:40 Yamicchi: 00:38:163 (5,1) - swap NC
09:41 LeKhanhHoa: 00:43:830 (2,3) - Cái này t thấy 

bth
09:41 LeKhanhHoa: No pls
09:41 Yamicchi: 00:40:163 (1,2) - swap NC
09:41 Yamicchi: 00:41:496 (1) - bỏ NC
09:41 Yamicchi: m thấy bth nhưng spacing m đang 

dùng để overlap nó khác
09:41 Yamicchi: thành ra nhìn nó giôgns 1 cái issue 

hơn là m cố ý
09:42 Yamicchi: chứ ai chả biết m cố ý
09:42 Yamicchi: 00:48:830 (5,1) - swap nc
09:42 Yamicchi: 00:51:163 (6,1) - swap nc
09:43 Yamicchi: 00:56:163 (1) - vẫn đang follow vocal 

mắc cc gì m nc :v
09:43 Yamicchi: bỏ
09:43 Yamicchi: 00:59:496 (5) - nc
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:00:663 (1,2) - swap
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:01:830 (1,2) - swap
09:43 Yamicchi: 01:04:496 (1,3) - swap
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:05:996 (1,2) - swap
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:07:163 (1,3) - 
09:44 Yamicchi: 01:08:163 (1) - bỏ
09:45 Yamicchi: 01:13:830 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:15:830 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:17:496 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:18:164 (8) - NC
09:46 Yamicchi: 01:18:496 (1) - bỏ
09:46 Yamicchi: xong
09:48 LeKhanhHoa: Đệt mẹ
09:48 LeKhanhHoa: Dài vc
09:48 Yamicchi: mỗi dòng có nhiêu đâu loz :v
09:52 LeKhanhHoa: 01:10:163 (5,6) - ?
09:53 Yamicchi: lộn
09:53 Yamicchi: X448 Y60
09:53 Yamicchi: :))
09:54 LeKhanhHoa: overlap wtf?
09:54 Yamicchi: wtf
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: X448 Y60 overlap
09:55 Yamicchi: http://puu.sh/wEk6o/cb834c728c.jpg
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: đm cái số 5
09:55 LeKhanhHoa: bảo t xoay cái số 6
09:55 Yamicchi: cầm cái số 5 copy paste xoay 240 :v
09:55 Yamicchi: typo
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: đm loạn nc rồi
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: Đệt, sao t thấy m giống NC 

instrument vậy?
10:08 Yamicchi: đệt tin tao đi
10:08 Yamicchi: m NC rất là loạn luôn đấy
10:08 LeKhanhHoa: vocal?
10:08 Yamicchi: nope
10:08 Yamicchi: vocal kiểu đó cũngk h phải nữa
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Recheck pls BN
11:01 Yamicchi: fixed everything?
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Hình như vậy
11:02 LeKhanhHoa: T sửa pattern trong kial
11:02 Yamicchi: sec
11:05 Yamicchi: ok ổn hơn rồi
11:05 Yamicchi: tao ăn kudos map này chưa
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: rồi
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: you greed
11:05 Yamicchi: lul

No kudos as I had one already

Set looks good enough so...
Bubbled

better version

Xinnoh

Elite Mapper

1,950 posts

Joined April 2014

Xinnoh 2017-07-08T07:11:53+00:00

why's the entire chorus pink?

General
Soft-hitfinish2 is way too quiet, increase it's volume or just use the default
01:17:996 (6) - check hitsound on all diffs lol
00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - These need hitsounds added, either on the first or fourth circle. There's no feedback so they're hard to acc
01:19:496 (1) - ^ there are no hitsounds for the entire section
remove anime from the tags, it's automatically applied in genre so it's redundant
imaginary bubble popped for no hitsounds at the end :/

Insane
00:19:163 (1,2) - This jump is way larger than anything else in this section, and has nothing to emphasise on it too
00:37:830 (4,1) - has almost the same amount of emphasis as 00:38:330 (2,3) - , I'd suggest to make this pattern a bit smaller
00:41:496 (1,2,1) - Is kind of inconsistent with 00:52:163 (1,2,1) - because of slider angle emphasis. It'd be easier if I just let my mentor explain that in this vid. The second one has much stronger emphasis compared to the first
00:36:496 (6,1) - & 00:47:163 (2,1) - I just find it odd there's no spacing emphasis on starts of new sections, but there is at 00:52:496 (2,1) -
00:42:496 (2,3,4) - compared to 00:43:163 (5,6,1) - , the first has a really sharp angle but the second uses a really wide one. This makes it somewhat hard to follow flow. Can't really find anywhere else where you used angle emphasis like this.

Hard
01:17:996 (3,1) - This is really awkward to play, is it possible to change it?

Easy & Normal
00:36:163 (1) - 00:46:830 (1) - 00:56:830 (1) - Remove NC, really doesn't feel like it's needed

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-08T12:50:58+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
why's the entire chorus pink? because reasons

General
Soft-hitfinish2 is way too quiet, increase it's volume or just use the default
01:17:996 (6) - check hitsound on all diffs lol
00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - These need hitsounds added, either on the first or fourth circle. There's no feedback so they're hard to acc
01:19:496 (1) - ^ there are no hitsounds for the entire section
remove anime from the tags, it's automatically applied in genre so it's redundant fair enough
imaginary bubble popped for no hitsounds at the end :/I don't hitsound so...

Insane
00:19:163 (1,2) - This jump is way larger than anything else in this section, and has nothing to emphasise on it too ok changes
00:37:830 (4,1) - has almost the same amount of emphasis as 00:38:330 (2,3) - , I'd suggest to make this pattern a bit smaller uhhh,
the 2 patterns has a pretty large difference in distance snap, and you had more time to jump to it compare to 2 circles, and it looks nicer in there imo
00:41:496 (1,2,1) - Is kind of inconsistent with 00:52:163 (1,2,1) - because of slider angle emphasis. It'd be easier if I just let my mentor explain that in this vid. The second one has much stronger emphasis compared to the first changed the second pattern
00:36:496 (6,1) - & 00:47:163 (2,1) - I just find it odd there's no spacing emphasis on starts of new sections, but there is at 00:52:496 (2,1) - Because I preceive those 2 sections as more of a transistion section, and that explains the distance
00:42:496 (2,3,4) - compared to 00:43:163 (5,6,1) - , the first has a really sharp angle but the second uses a really wide one. This makes it somewhat hard to follow flow. Can't really find anywhere else where you used angle emphasis like this. changed

Easy & Normal
00:36:163 (1) - 00:46:830 (1) - 00:56:830 (1) - Remove NC, really doesn't feel like it's needed remove all but the last one as I prefer that one to be kept as indicator of kial

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-08T14:14:49+00:00

I don't see how that's uncomfortable, it might be that the slider is offbeat but that's what the song is doing.

Hikan

430 posts

Joined February 2016

Hikan 2017-07-08T19:21:29+00:00

Sinnoh wrote:
General
Soft-hitfinish2 is way too quiet, increase it's volume or just use the default yes
01:17:996 (6) - check hitsound on all diffs lol everytime im suk at hs
00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - These need hitsounds added, either on the first or fourth circle. There's no feedback so they're hard to acc idk can you give me an example, maybe clap on (1)?
01:19:496 (1) - ^ there are no hitsounds for the entire section clap on (1)? lol

Thanks

https://puu.sh/wENBl/511fb7209d.wav
00:04:830 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - 01:19:496 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - clap
01:17:996 (6) - tắt clap

đống hitsound nếu có gì apply được thì Hòa cứ thử đi, khi nào gặp cái nào khó xử thì hẳn đưa. Tại vì rep vậy loãng theard quá cái mod mà thằng không phải mapper vào rep nó ngáo ngáo

Venix

Global Moderator

1,927 posts

Joined February 2015

Venix 2017-07-09T12:09:05+00:00

from queue

[Easy]

00:10:163 (1,2) - I think it plays a bit harsh because 00:11:163 (2) - this slider doesn't continue transition made by previous one. What about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547555 It would play more comfortable.
good diff

[Normal]

00:56:496 (4) - I think you should move this circle into the slider's inside side just for better aesthetics, like this. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547579
01:28:496 (2) - Similar issue to this one from easy diff.

[LMT's Hard]

00:37:830 (1) - This slider is overmapped. There's no 1/8 sound.
00:56:163 (3,4) - Don't you think this jump is a bit too big in contrast to others on this diff? I prefer nerf it like you did on other jumps.

Not bad map, needs more polishing. Good luck~

Yamicchi

1,175 posts

Joined May 2015

Yamicchi 2017-07-09T12:47:40+00:00

Hikan wrote:
đống hitsound nếu có gì apply được thì Hòa cứ thử đi, khi nào gặp cái nào khó xử thì hẳn đưa. Tại vì rep vậy loãng theard quá cái mod mà thằng không phải mapper vào rep nó ngáo ngáo

U want sum ngáo?

MaridiuS

878 posts

Joined June 2014

MaridiuS 2017-07-09T13:32:05+00:00

insane check

2017-07-09 13:45 LeKhanhHoa: Hi. Yami told me to pm you. Thanks for taking a look
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: hi
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: so generally i think that the map is not bad 
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: just few concepts were not executed fully correctly
2017-07-09 13:46 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: so lets go
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: firstly this is subjective
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: but since 00:05:830 (1,2,3,4) -  this spacing is used for the guitar sounding part
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: 00:06:496 (5) -  this doesn't carry the same weight, and I'd suggest stacking it on (4)
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Stacking it seems ugly to me
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: stacking shouldn't look ugly lul
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: ur not doing anything weird its really common
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: 00:10:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh also you should use same curve for both instances of these single taps
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: so copy paste and rotation is your friend here.
2017-07-09 13:49 LeKhanhHoa: Oh okay
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: 00:15:496 (1,3) - this overlap really doesn't look good
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: since your map is not based on overlaps, it shouldn't contain this weird of a one.
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: placing it here https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/M1JJnAf.jpg would be better
2017-07-09 13:50 LeKhanhHoa: Actually, it is repeated one more times thou
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: it doesn't fit the map 
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: brb 2-3 mins
2017-07-09 13:51 LeKhanhHoa: sure
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: oki im back
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: so usually when you do this kind of overlaps, you base your map around them
2017-07-09 13:57 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: you just use the overlap on a seemingly random pattern
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: which could be done better with my suggestion. 
2017-07-09 13:58 MaridiuS: but ofc if you apply my suggestion, you'll need to rearrange other patterns related to it
2017-07-09 13:58 LeKhanhHoa: Yes I know.
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: next, you'll want to differentiate the spacing 
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: you use similar spacing on 1/1 beats as you use for 1/2 beats
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: it could get confusing
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: 00:17:496 (5,1) -  for example look how close this is.
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: You'll also want to make 00:18:163 (1) -  special, as it  is a down beat, and seemingly strong
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: so giving it larger spacing should work much better
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/HGRl6Oi.jpg this spacing might be ideal or something
2017-07-09 14:01 LeKhanhHoa: I'll see what I can do
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: it could work as a gimmick, but however, the map isn't really rhythmically consistent 
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: 00:22:496 (3,4,5) - because this doesnt have a 1/1 gap, you'll have to focus a bit more to realize what's 1/2, 
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:26:163 (1,2,3) - here's the pattern that doesn't really fit
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: having no overlap is never a mistake 
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:28:830 (1,2,3) -  same for this, its a bit random since you on that bit mostly not overlap it with a slider that happened previously on the timeline
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: 00:32:163 (3) - like this one isn't behind (1)
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: I'll fix them all
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: wait osu direct is pissing me off
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: reconnecting 
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: 00:31:496 (1,2,3) - 
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: when having such placement you should focus on making a triangle
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: having (3) equally visual distanced from both (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/NX0GIFb.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: 00:34:163 (1,2,3) -  similar could be applied here
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: i prefer having one side filled, rather than having emptiness
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: will explain
2017-07-09 14:06 LeKhanhHoa: OK
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4VeRCzc.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: something like this for example
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: you will connect more patterns visually
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: giving no empty spaces 
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: 00:36:496 (6) - you can make this extend to the yellow tick before the slider
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: with this spacing it is expected for (1) to be after 1/8 
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: 00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) -  you can also connect patterns here in a similar way i mentioned 
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: by placing (3) close to the big slider 
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/w8VOZO5.jpg
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: 00:38:163 (1,2,3,4) -  here another example where you could fill more holes, do it like this pattern 00:48:830 (1,2,3,4) - 
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xqJ9AIf.jpg 00:42:163 (1,2,4) -  see how i've put (2) to have same visual distance from both sliders
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: that's a e s t h e t i c
2017-07-09 14:12 LeKhanhHoa: will try
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: the rest of connecting patterns i'll leave to you
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: will now ginve some other gameplay feedback 
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:42:163 (1,2,3,4) -  you formed here a nice circular flow
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:43:163 (5,6) -  but broke it unfairly here 
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: without a reason, it should all be a part of the same part, therefore same kind of flow that you formed with previous two
2017-07-09 14:13 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) -  here it was done well
2017-07-09 14:13 LeKhanhHoa: i like to preceive it as this thou
2017-07-09 14:15 LeKhanhHoa: I mean, it is like this
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 1 2 3 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 4 5 6 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: and both is like that
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: but a pattern alter
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) - 
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: they're done in same flow style
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: on the pattern i pointed out it is not
2017-07-09 14:17 MaridiuS: okay now the kiai is a bit lacking in visual consistency
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: since the map up to this point
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: kept a level of consistent visual distance
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: so should the kiai
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Sx8tJCJ.jpg lets take this pattern for example
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: 01:01:996 (1,2,3) - 
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: thanks to the approach circle, we can tell that (3) is further away from (2) than (1) is
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: there are two options, to make them the same distance
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: and the most preferably is to make (3) also be the same distance from (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:20 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kha7NFO.jpg this, but its your choice this is generally the most accepted style
2017-07-09 14:21 LeKhanhHoa: Problably will make it bigger thou
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:06:830 (5,1,3) - https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dspK3xr.jpg another example
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,4) -  same should kinda be applied to blanket distance
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,5) - 
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: if both blankets have same distance it should loook better
2017-07-09 14:22 MaridiuS: 01:04:996 (3) -  this should be 2 circles, since it has vocals on both the start and the end of the slider
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: 01:10:163 (5) -  good idea is to make this slider 1/1, because you're following exclusively vocals kinda 
2017-07-09 14:23 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I can't hear vocals on the sliderend thou
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: doing a slider on a beat that doesnt have vocals 
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: kinda contradicts your section
2017-07-09 14:24 MaridiuS: oh well thats weird i thought it had vocals there
2017-07-09 14:25 LeKhanhHoa: As for 01:10:163 (5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: Like, there are small instruments sounds at sliderend (5)
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: So I'd like to leave it thou
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: yeah i know
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: 00:58:996 -  but there are a bit more insta nces
2017-07-09 14:27 MaridiuS: where you also kidna skip the beat
2017-07-09 14:27 LeKhanhHoa: The vocal there sounds more like a hold to me
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but generally nothing much to say about flow. In a diff with little spacing it isn't really felt if its a bit uncomfortable
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but mostly needs a bit more work and aesthetics
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: on aesthetics* and on the start spacing emphasis
2017-07-09 14:30 LeKhanhHoa: Will try my best
2017-07-09 14:30 MaridiuS: rhythm seems fine

Hoa

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Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-09T13:39:37+00:00

Venix wrote:
from queue

[Easy]
00:10:163 (1,2) - I think it plays a bit harsh because 00:11:163 (2) - this slider doesn't continue transition made by previous one. What about this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547555 It would play more comfortable. okay
good diff
[Normal]
00:56:496 (4) - I think you should move this circle into the slider's inside side just for better aesthetics, like this. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8547579 sure
01:28:496 (2) - Similar issue to this one from easy diff. sure

Not bad map, needs more polishing. Good luck~

Thanks for your mod!

MaridiuS wrote:

insane check

2017-07-09 13:45 LeKhanhHoa: Hi. Yami told me to pm you. Thanks for taking a look
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: hi
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: so generally i think that the map is not bad 
2017-07-09 13:45 MaridiuS: just few concepts were not executed fully correctly
2017-07-09 13:46 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: so lets go
2017-07-09 13:46 MaridiuS: firstly this is subjective
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: but since 00:05:830 (1,2,3,4) -  this spacing is used for the guitar sounding part
2017-07-09 13:47 MaridiuS: 00:06:496 (5) -  this doesn't carry the same weight, and I'd suggest stacking it on (4)
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
2017-07-09 13:47 LeKhanhHoa: Stacking it seems ugly to me
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: stacking shouldn't look ugly lul
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: ur not doing anything weird its really common
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: 00:10:163 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - oh also you should use same curve for both instances of these single taps
2017-07-09 13:48 MaridiuS: so copy paste and rotation is your friend here.
2017-07-09 13:49 LeKhanhHoa: Oh okay
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: 00:15:496 (1,3) - this overlap really doesn't look good
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: since your map is not based on overlaps, it shouldn't contain this weird of a one.
2017-07-09 13:50 MaridiuS: placing it here https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/M1JJnAf.jpg would be better
2017-07-09 13:50 LeKhanhHoa: Actually, it is repeated one more times thou
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: it doesn't fit the map 
2017-07-09 13:51 MaridiuS: brb 2-3 mins
2017-07-09 13:51 LeKhanhHoa: sure
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: oki im back
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: so usually when you do this kind of overlaps, you base your map around them
2017-07-09 13:57 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: you just use the overlap on a seemingly random pattern
2017-07-09 13:57 MaridiuS: which could be done better with my suggestion. 
2017-07-09 13:58 MaridiuS: but ofc if you apply my suggestion, you'll need to rearrange other patterns related to it
2017-07-09 13:58 LeKhanhHoa: Yes I know.
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: next, you'll want to differentiate the spacing 
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: you use similar spacing on 1/1 beats as you use for 1/2 beats
2017-07-09 13:59 MaridiuS: it could get confusing
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: 00:17:496 (5,1) -  for example look how close this is.
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: You'll also want to make 00:18:163 (1) -  special, as it  is a down beat, and seemingly strong
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: so giving it larger spacing should work much better
2017-07-09 14:00 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/HGRl6Oi.jpg this spacing might be ideal or something
2017-07-09 14:01 LeKhanhHoa: I'll see what I can do
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: it could work as a gimmick, but however, the map isn't really rhythmically consistent 
2017-07-09 14:01 MaridiuS: 00:22:496 (3,4,5) - because this doesnt have a 1/1 gap, you'll have to focus a bit more to realize what's 1/2, 
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:26:163 (1,2,3) - here's the pattern that doesn't really fit
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: having no overlap is never a mistake 
2017-07-09 14:02 MaridiuS: 00:28:830 (1,2,3) -  same for this, its a bit random since you on that bit mostly not overlap it with a slider that happened previously on the timeline
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: 00:32:163 (3) - like this one isn't behind (1)
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
2017-07-09 14:03 LeKhanhHoa: I'll fix them all
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: wait osu direct is pissing me off
2017-07-09 14:03 MaridiuS: reconnecting 
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: 00:31:496 (1,2,3) - 
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: when having such placement you should focus on making a triangle
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: having (3) equally visual distanced from both (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:04 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/NX0GIFb.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: 00:34:163 (1,2,3) -  similar could be applied here
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: i prefer having one side filled, rather than having emptiness
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: will explain
2017-07-09 14:06 LeKhanhHoa: OK
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/4VeRCzc.jpg
2017-07-09 14:06 MaridiuS: something like this for example
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: you will connect more patterns visually
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: giving no empty spaces 
2017-07-09 14:07 MaridiuS: 00:36:496 (6) - you can make this extend to the yellow tick before the slider
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: with this spacing it is expected for (1) to be after 1/8 
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: 00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) -  you can also connect patterns here in a similar way i mentioned 
2017-07-09 14:08 MaridiuS: by placing (3) close to the big slider 
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/w8VOZO5.jpg
2017-07-09 14:09 MaridiuS: 00:38:163 (1,2,3,4) -  here another example where you could fill more holes, do it like this pattern 00:48:830 (1,2,3,4) - 
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xqJ9AIf.jpg 00:42:163 (1,2,4) -  see how i've put (2) to have same visual distance from both sliders
2017-07-09 14:11 MaridiuS: that's a e s t h e t i c
2017-07-09 14:12 LeKhanhHoa: will try
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: the rest of connecting patterns i'll leave to you
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: will now ginve some other gameplay feedback 
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:42:163 (1,2,3,4) -  you formed here a nice circular flow
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: 00:43:163 (5,6) -  but broke it unfairly here 
2017-07-09 14:12 MaridiuS: without a reason, it should all be a part of the same part, therefore same kind of flow that you formed with previous two
2017-07-09 14:13 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) -  here it was done well
2017-07-09 14:13 LeKhanhHoa: i like to preceive it as this thou
2017-07-09 14:15 LeKhanhHoa: I mean, it is like this
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 1 2 3 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: 4 5 6 is one group
2017-07-09 14:16 LeKhanhHoa: and both is like that
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: but a pattern alter
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: 00:45:496 (4,5,6) - 
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: they're done in same flow style
2017-07-09 14:16 MaridiuS: on the pattern i pointed out it is not
2017-07-09 14:17 MaridiuS: okay now the kiai is a bit lacking in visual consistency
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: since the map up to this point
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: kept a level of consistent visual distance
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: so should the kiai
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/Sx8tJCJ.jpg lets take this pattern for example
2017-07-09 14:18 MaridiuS: 01:01:996 (1,2,3) - 
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: thanks to the approach circle, we can tell that (3) is further away from (2) than (1) is
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: there are two options, to make them the same distance
2017-07-09 14:19 MaridiuS: and the most preferably is to make (3) also be the same distance from (2) and (1)
2017-07-09 14:20 MaridiuS: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/kha7NFO.jpg this, but its your choice this is generally the most accepted style
2017-07-09 14:21 LeKhanhHoa: Problably will make it bigger thou
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:06:830 (5,1,3) - https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/dspK3xr.jpg another example
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,4) -  same should kinda be applied to blanket distance
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: 01:12:163 (3,5) - 
2017-07-09 14:21 MaridiuS: if both blankets have same distance it should loook better
2017-07-09 14:22 MaridiuS: 01:04:996 (3) -  this should be 2 circles, since it has vocals on both the start and the end of the slider
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: 01:10:163 (5) -  good idea is to make this slider 1/1, because you're following exclusively vocals kinda 
2017-07-09 14:23 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I can't hear vocals on the sliderend thou
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: doing a slider on a beat that doesnt have vocals 
2017-07-09 14:23 MaridiuS: kinda contradicts your section
2017-07-09 14:24 MaridiuS: oh well thats weird i thought it had vocals there
2017-07-09 14:25 LeKhanhHoa: As for 01:10:163 (5,6) -
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: Like, there are small instruments sounds at sliderend (5)
2017-07-09 14:26 LeKhanhHoa: So I'd like to leave it thou
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: yeah i know
2017-07-09 14:26 MaridiuS: 00:58:996 -  but there are a bit more insta nces
2017-07-09 14:27 MaridiuS: where you also kidna skip the beat
2017-07-09 14:27 LeKhanhHoa: The vocal there sounds more like a hold to me
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but generally nothing much to say about flow. In a diff with little spacing it isn't really felt if its a bit uncomfortable
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: but mostly needs a bit more work and aesthetics
2017-07-09 14:29 MaridiuS: on aesthetics* and on the start spacing emphasis
2017-07-09 14:30 LeKhanhHoa: Will try my best
2017-07-09 14:30 MaridiuS: rhythm seems fine

A little side note:
I'm not nicpicky for the opening part, so it will probably stays like that
00:36:830 (1,2,3,4) - seems fine to me.
00:35:830 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Will be overmapped if it ends on yellow tick.
00:42:163 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - is different grouping to me, and since the ds is small, I think it is fine.
01:10:163 (5,6) - Is explained in the last part

Thanks to both of you for your mod!

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-09T14:22:47+00:00

Venix wrote:
from queue

[LMT's Hard]
00:37:830 (1) - This slider is overmapped. There's no 1/8 sound. hihats
00:56:163 (3,4) - Don't you think this jump is a bit too big in contrast to others on this diff? I prefer nerf it like you did on other jumps. slider leniency makes the actual spacing easier than the circle -> slider jump
Not bad map, needs more polishing. Good luck~

thanks for the mod!

Affirmation

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Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2017-07-10T08:07:50+00:00

Q

[Insane]
00:15:496 - from this, music has vocal, but you are still following guitar(?) sound, can be boring.
01:11:163 - no reason for jump. this part doesn't have any emphasis

Good map. GL!

Hoa

275 posts

Joined June 2015

Topic Starter

Hoa 2017-07-10T08:38:42+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
Q

[Insane]
00:15:496 - from this, music has vocal, but you are still following guitar(?) sound, can be boring. Oh, actually I still try to follow the vocals.
Where there're hold vocals, I will use most pattern like this thou. I guess it's more interesting to play rather then just the vocals thou.
01:11:163 - no reason for jump. this part doesn't have any emphasis yes, changed

Good map. GL!

Thanks for your mod!

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-10T13:17:33+00:00

on reqewtqwes

ahem, I mean request

[General]
- Kiai 00:58:163 - lacks a lot of hitsounding. Only drum whistles for the occasional snare isn't enough when there's a lot more going on in the song, it's not varied enough feedback.

[Easy]
You can probably lower AR to like 3 or something, it's not that dense - this diff.

- 00:23:496 (1,2) - Idk about this flow, I feel like new players could possibly mistake the reverse arrow for the sliderhead. (it does happen) Maybe try something like this?
- 00:38:496 (3,4) - Mmm similar with flow, might be a bit harsh compared to 00:43:163 (2,3,4) - 00:45:830 (2,3,4). Perhaps something like this may work but it would require some repositioning. // 00:48:163 (2,3,4) -
- 00:51:496 - Really loud clap here I think could be removed cuz it's not in the song.
- 01:00:830 (1,2,3,4) - Square like this?
- 01:18:163 - This whistle really doesn't fit imo, sounds kinda jarring if anything.
- 01:19:496 (1,2) - Blanket on 1's tail is off.

[Normal]
- 00:04:830 (1,2) - Blanket here is also off, if you wanna make these blanket patterns on low diffs they should be pretty perfect otherwise aesthetics suffer

- 00:23:496 (1,2,3,4) - Flow like this may be more appropriate with how things like 00:20:830 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:496 (1,2,3,4) - are constructed.
- 00:37:496 (2,3,4) - Triangle possible here.
- 00:44:496 (1,2,3) - The first one maps the vocals with denser rhythm than the second, but the vocals are the same rhythm. Shouldn't they be consistent?

// 00:55:163 (1,2,3) -

[LMT's Hard]
- 00:13:830 (3,4,1) - I misread (1) as a 1/1 gap, maybe making all of these the same spacing would make it clearer that it's 1/2?
- 00:14:496 (1) - Also it may be better to leave these as single repeats instead of double because it's kinda hard to acc these if you're singletapping. It kinda forces you to alternate.. minor thing though I guess.
- 00:37:830 (1) - I can get them being used for drums and stuff but these sounds are a lot weaker in comparison. In the interest of making the diff not too complicated maybe removing these and replacing them with one circle would work?
- 01:19:496 (1,2,1,2) - NC patterning is different from the beginning 00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - ? How come? o.o

[Insane]
- 00:19:663 (3,4) - Minor, but overlapping these like this might look better?
- 00:22:496 (3,4) - Mmm, there isn't anything here that I can hear, maybe consider removing these? It would kind of ruin your thing with 00:22:830 (5) - though... I don't know, it's quite minor but if you want to consider doing something about it you can.
- 00:33:163 (3) - Also nothing here.

- 00:42:163 (1,2,3) - Could make a triangle to fit with the square at 00:42:830 (4,5,6,1) - ?
- 00:46:830 (1,2) - Having NC'd these I expected 00:48:163 (3,4) - 00:49:496 (5,6) - to also have NCs since they follow the same type of vocal. It looks somewhat inconsistent as it is now.

The biggest problem is the lack of hitsounding in the kiai. You can add a lot of snares, whistles for vocals, etc etc. Atm just drum whistles for occasional snares isn't enough.

Call me back when all of this is addressed for a recheck.

LMT

535 posts

Joined October 2015

LMT 2017-07-10T15:55:33+00:00

Mir wrote:
[LMT's Hard]
- 00:13:830 (3,4,1) - I misread (1) as a 1/1 gap, maybe making all of these the same spacing would make it clearer that it's 1/2? ye was my original intention, not sure when it moved
- 00:14:496 (1) - Also it may be better to leave these as single repeats instead of double because it's kinda hard to acc these if you're singletapping. It kinda forces you to alternate.. minor thing though I guess. 1 more repeat is noticeably too offputing considering how I use this pattern later on so uhh don't think I could change it
- 00:37:830 (1) - I can get them being used for drums and stuff but these sounds are a lot weaker in comparison. In the interest of making the diff not too complicated maybe removing these and replacing them with one circle would work? kinda kills the fun and that's like the only way I could express those 1/4s to tell the player that they do play an important part in the track
- 01:19:496 (1,2,1,2) - NC patterning is different from the beginning 00:04:830 (1,2,3,4) - ? How come? o.o oh good catch lol, fixed except for the last one since it's a little unique

thanks Mir!!

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Creator:LeKhanhHoa
Version:LMT's Hard
Source:サクラクエスト
Tags:Sakura Quest know name ed ending lmt
BeatmapID:1320857
BeatmapSetID:626728

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:5
ApproachRate:7.5
SliderMultiplier:1.7
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
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//Break Periods
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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victorfernando

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victorfernando 2017-07-10T19:22:58+00:00

Very good i think is clean ._. , Good job boi go ranked <3

Hoa

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Hoa 2017-07-11T03:01:02+00:00

victorfernando wrote:
Very good i think is clean ._. , Good job boi go ranked <3 Will do <3

Mir wrote:
on reqewtqwes

ahem, I mean request

[General]
- Kiai 00:58:163 - lacks a lot of hitsounding. Only drum whistles for the occasional snare isn't enough when there's a lot more going on in the song, it's not varied enough feedback.

[Easy]
You can probably lower AR to like 3 or something, it's not that dense - this diff. Sure

- 00:23:496 (1,2) - Idk about this flow, I feel like new players could possibly mistake the reverse arrow for the sliderhead. (it does happen) Maybe try something like this? Done
- 00:38:496 (3,4) - Mmm similar with flow, might be a bit harsh compared to 00:43:163 (2,3,4) - 00:45:830 (2,3,4). Perhaps something like this may work but it would require some repositioning. // 00:48:163 (2,3,4) - OK, move a ton of note too
- 00:51:496 - Really loud clap here I think could be removed cuz it's not in the song. Wait, random clap that other diffs don't have. Removed
- 01:00:830 (1,2,3,4) - Square like this? Tried my best thou
- 01:18:163 - This whistle really doesn't fit imo, sounds kinda jarring if anything.
- 01:19:496 (1,2) - Blanket on 1's tail is off. Done

[Normal]
- 00:04:830 (1,2) - Blanket here is also off, if you wanna make these blanket patterns on low diffs they should be pretty perfect otherwise aesthetics suffer I hate eyeballing this
- 00:23:496 (1,2,3,4) - Flow like this may be more appropriate with how things like 00:20:830 (1,2,3,4) - 00:31:496 (1,2,3,4) - are constructed. Fair enough
- 00:37:496 (2,3,4) - Triangle possible here. Moar aesthetics
- 00:44:496 (1,2,3) - The first one maps the vocals with denser rhythm than the second, but the vocals are the same rhythm. Shouldn't they be consistent? // 00:55:163 (1,2,3) - Yes they should be now

[Insane]
- 00:19:663 (3,4) - Minor, but overlapping these like this might look better? okay
- 00:22:496 (3,4) - Mmm, there isn't anything here that I can hear, maybe consider removing these? It would kind of ruin your thing with 00:22:830 (5) - though... I don't know, it's quite minor but if you want to consider doing something about it you can. Uhh. There are a few reasons why there are objects there. First is that a 1/1 slider will fit there, but it will kinda ruin the rhythm. Second is that I don't want a gap here, as the vocal is kinda hold. I guess 00:22:496 (3,4) - could be turn into a slider for more fitting.
- 00:33:163 (3) - Also nothing here. Kinda explained it above
- 00:42:163 (1,2,3) - Could make a triangle to fit with the square at 00:42:830 (4,5,6,1) - ? I can't see why not.
- 00:46:830 (1,2) - Having NC'd these I expected 00:48:163 (3,4) - 00:49:496 (5,6) - to also have NCs since they follow the same type of vocal. It looks somewhat inconsistent as it is now. Uhhh, there's a few thing here. 00:46:830 (1,2) - I thought this is kinda the same vocal as 00:36:163 (5,6) - thus explained the white color. And I want this to be like a transistion between 2 sections, so there's that.

The biggest problem is the lack of hitsounding in the kiai. You can add a lot of snares, whistles for vocals, etc etc. Atm just drum whistles for occasional snares isn't enough. About the hitsound part, I did go talk to Yami and ask him to help me with it. So he gave me this version that is it now! I hope it's the best it could be.
For explaination purpose:
On Easy, 01:08:496 - and on Normal, 01:08:663 - don't have clap hitsound but upper diff have because it sounds really awkward since it got only 1 of the clap there, while Hard and Insane has all 2 of them, so I think it's best to remove it from Easy and Normal.

Call me back when all of this is addressed for a recheck.

All done and stuff.

Cute Mir!

Mir

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Mir 2017-07-11T09:33:08+00:00

Okay, looks good.

Metadata: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
Secondary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI

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10:01 LeKhanhHoa: Hi Mir.
10:01 Mir: hiii~
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Is there any problem?
10:02 Mir: the hitsounding is still pretty lacking
10:02 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320855 (K)NoW_NAME - Freesia [Easy]]
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Oh
10:03 Mir: 00:59:830 - notes like this could have the same hitsounds as 00:54:496 (3) -
10:03 Mir: the drum beat didn't really change but the hitsounds started ignoring it
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Blame headphone
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
10:04 Mir: it's every 1st and 3rd red tick that there's a kick drum
10:06 LeKhanhHoa: So I can add the drum sound and it'll be fine?
10:06 Mir: essentially yea
10:06 Mir: there's just not enough feedback
10:06 Mir: you do hear the kick drum i'm talking about right o.o
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: Audible, but very small thou
10:07 Mir: yeah so the hitsounds can bring that out more

10:07 Mir: either way just a couple of claps and a finish here and there isn't enough
10:07 Mir: you can also use whistles on vocals if you want to as well (which i recommend you try)
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: So, 1st and 3rd red tick drum sound, right?
10:08 Mir: for the most part, it varies slightly as the kiai goes on
10:08 Mir: you could just do the 1st white, 1st red, 3rd red
10:09 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I can't hear 1st red
10:10 Mir: for easy you can try something like this https://puu.sh/wGQpH/fff0a5084e.osu
10:10 Mir: idk if you wanna change the samplesets though, the kick you used before sounds pretty fitting
10:11 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check this
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Sound alright
10:13 Mir: if you wanna you can also add whistles
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Do I still need to add the drum sound?
10:13 Mir: yea you should
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: OK wait me a bit
10:14 Mir: 00:37:496 (2,1) - owo overlap in normal xd
10:14 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:15 Mir: hmm for insane 00:22:496 (3) - what do you think about making this one circle instead
10:16 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
10:16 Mir: if it's the same slider as the rest it looks like it should be the same sound but it isn't
10:16 Mir: and differentiating it from the guitar would make it stand out more imo
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: I'll change it
10:17 Mir: 00:33:163 (3) - same for this one then if you do
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: I do have a slight concern thou
10:18 Mir: sure, whats up
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: For every 1/2 gap, I'll usually NC for colorhaxing
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: Doing this will leave like a 1/2 gap
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: But NC the next slider will kinda break the color pattern
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: Not NC it will be inconsistent
10:19 Mir: hmm.. that's true
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: I could do it like this, if you think it's fine
10:20 Mir: okay well, you can keep it then, but change the shape so it's noticeably different
10:20 Mir: also hitsound it as well with some drums or something so it's not audibly mapped to nothing
10:20 LeKhanhHoa: I was proposing it like this thou
10:21 Mir: okay show me
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:17:163 (4) - where there is vocal, I won't mute the slider (use the drum sampleset)
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:22:496 (3) - I will mute it
10:22 Mir: i think the opposite makes more sense
10:22 Mir: if you mute it players will know it's overmapped
10:22 Mir: if you have it with drums on the silence it works better than if on vocals
10:22 Mir: so instead of that you can probably remove the drums on the vocals and put then on 00:22:496 (3) -
10:23 LeKhanhHoa: So basically, mute where the vocals it, right?
10:23 Mir: i wouldn't say "mute" just removing the drum samples would be okay
10:24 Mir: replacing them with whistles or something might work
10:24 LeKhanhHoa: Different hitsound, okay
10:28 Mir: the rest of the changes look okay
10:28 Mir: just needs more hitsounding
10:28 LeKhanhHoa: So I put a whistle on 00:22:496 (3) - and every slider that is similar
10:29 Mir: uhm
10:29 Mir: soft whistle sure
10:29 LeKhanhHoa: OK
10:30 LeKhanhHoa: Now, you want the drum sounds in the kial, yes?
10:30 Mir: mhm
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I just copy the diff you gave me
10:32 Mir: a
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: And the kial all has soft additions
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Is that normal?
10:32 Mir: but
10:32 Mir: if you copy that then that's basically me hitsounding a section for you
10:32 Mir: which gets into grey area with nomination
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah, let me revert
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Ok done
10:32 Mir: now you can use your own hitsounding structure to do it instead of mine
10:33 Mir: i always default all objects to soft additions thats why lol
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: So, more drum, right?
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: That'll be like more green line uhhh
10:34 Mir: you can use the same sampleset no?
10:34 Mir: just replacing the drum
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: The drum is on S:C1
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: Kial is all S:C2 thou
10:35 Mir: you can move the drum from c1 to c2
10:35 Mir: just changing what it's on, like maybe drum-hitnormal
10:35 Mir: and then use the rest of the additions as you have been
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I don't have softhitwhisle-2 yet
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, on Easy
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: 01:13:163 (3) - is a gap where there should be a drum
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Should I add it?
10:38 Mir: you can
10:45 LeKhanhHoa: So, uhh, I've updated it
10:46 LeKhanhHoa: I've also duplicate soft-hitwhistle into a soft-hitwhistle2
10:46 Mir: 01:01:163 (2) - whistle maybe here
10:47 Mir: 01:06:496 (3) - maybe here too?
10:47 LeKhanhHoa: 00:58:496 - Here too?
10:48 Mir: you could but then you'd have to do it for the rest of them
10:48 LeKhanhHoa: I could but should I?
10:48 Mir: 01:00:830 - could whistle here
10:49 Mir: 01:01:496 (4) - oh what about making this a straight slider, flow into it from 01:01:330 (3) - is kinda weird imo
10:49 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
10:49 Mir: whether you should is up to you i think
10:50 Mir: but i can still hear plenty of places where it's possible to put hitsounds
10:50 LeKhanhHoa: I'd prefer 1st and 3rd red tick thou
10:51 Mir: NC here? 01:01:330 (3) -
10:51 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - *
10:52 LeKhanhHoa: 01:01:330 (3) - Here I don't think it fits thou
10:52 Mir: yeah no that was a wrong link
10:52 Mir: the link underneath
10:52 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - ?
10:52 Mir: or 01:13:830 (3) - here
10:53 Mir: well first let me send you something
10:53 Mir: https://puu.sh/wGREH/10b6b78d2f.osu
10:53 Mir: here are some possible places to put hitsounds, i marked them with bookmarks
10:55 LeKhanhHoa: OK let me see
10:56 LeKhanhHoa: I still really don't know about the drum at the big white tick?
10:56 Mir: it's a double drum i think
10:56 Mir: it's like boom boom
10:57 LeKhanhHoa: Ok then
11:00 LeKhanhHoa: 01:18:164 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why are all of this bookmark?
11:01 Mir: they can have drums on them
11:01 Mir: cuz in the song there are a lot of them
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Can I put clap there?
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Sound kinda better
11:01 Mir: hmm, but in the song there's no claps there
11:02 LeKhanhHoa: Ok, so I put drum on 01:18:496 (2,3,4) - head
11:03 Mir: okay
11:03 LeKhanhHoa: Let me do the other diffs and I'll update
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, LMT's diff skips the metronome
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: At 01:00:663 (1) -
11:06 Mir: that's fine
11:06 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
11:07 Mir: uhm
11:07 Mir: did you add the drums after all? it looks the same xD
11:08 LeKhanhHoa: I problably forget this diff thou lol
11:08 Mir: 01:13:496 (1,2,3) - whats with this ncing though
11:09 Mir: on easy it's fine cuz downbeat but
11:09 Mir: on normal it skips downbeat
11:09 Mir: insane too
11:10 LeKhanhHoa: I think I was doing vocal NC
11:10 Mir: oh
11:10 Mir: i see
11:12 Mir: 01:01:330 (3,4) - also
11:12 Mir: xd
11:13 LeKhanhHoa: ?
11:13 Mir: i suggested you make 4 straight and you said yes
11:13 Mir: but maybe you forgot to do it
11:13 Mir: idk
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh wait this is Normal right?
11:14 Mir: insane
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I just fix it
11:15 LeKhanhHoa: Just hasn't updated yet
11:15 Mir: ah okay
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Ok updated
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Hope I don't forget anything dumb now
11:16 Mir: oh it sounds nice now
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: Probably
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: I've been listening to this song for like 100 times now
11:19 Mir: looks good
11:19 Mir: do you have metadata
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: I got this from the record company on YT
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI
11:20 Mir: do you have it on their main website or something?
11:20 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
11:24 Mir: I can't find anything lol
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: lol I'm trying too
11:25 Mir: i think we can go with the youtube link
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah
11:25 Mir: it's official and verified
11:25 Mir: however
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
11:25 Mir: 「Freesia」
11:25 Mir: this should probably be the uh
11:25 Mir: the title
11:26 Mir: lemme ask
11:26 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah I'll wait
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: Oh I got this
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
11:29 Mir: ohh
11:29 Mir: that looks good one sec
11:29 LeKhanhHoa: But I can't read Japanese
11:29 Mir: okay we don't need the brackets lol
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: So everything's good now, right?
11:30 Mir: yea
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: Are you gonna bubble it now?
11:31 Mir: yep
11:31 Mir: making the post

Set looks fine, let's give this a shot.

Bubbled!

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