Okay, looks good.
Metadata: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
Secondary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI
Catlogs:
Set looks fine, let's give this a shot.
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Metadata: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
Secondary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI
Catlogs:
SPOILER
10:01 LeKhanhHoa: Hi Mir.
10:01 Mir: hiii~
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Is there any problem?
10:02 Mir: the hitsounding is still pretty lacking
10:02 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320855 (K)NoW_NAME - Freesia [Easy]]
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Oh
10:03 Mir: 00:59:830 - notes like this could have the same hitsounds as 00:54:496 (3) -
10:03 Mir: the drum beat didn't really change but the hitsounds started ignoring it
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Blame headphone
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
10:04 Mir: it's every 1st and 3rd red tick that there's a kick drum
10:06 LeKhanhHoa: So I can add the drum sound and it'll be fine?
10:06 Mir: essentially yea
10:06 Mir: there's just not enough feedback
10:06 Mir: you do hear the kick drum i'm talking about right o.o
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: Audible, but very small thou
10:07 Mir: yeah so the hitsounds can bring that out more
10:07 Mir: either way just a couple of claps and a finish here and there isn't enough
10:07 Mir: you can also use whistles on vocals if you want to as well (which i recommend you try)
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: So, 1st and 3rd red tick drum sound, right?
10:08 Mir: for the most part, it varies slightly as the kiai goes on
10:08 Mir: you could just do the 1st white, 1st red, 3rd red
10:09 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I can't hear 1st red
10:10 Mir: for easy you can try something like this https://puu.sh/wGQpH/fff0a5084e.osu
10:10 Mir: idk if you wanna change the samplesets though, the kick you used before sounds pretty fitting
10:11 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check this
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Sound alright
10:13 Mir: if you wanna you can also add whistles
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Do I still need to add the drum sound?
10:13 Mir: yea you should
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: OK wait me a bit
10:14 Mir: 00:37:496 (2,1) - owo overlap in normal xd
10:14 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:15 Mir: hmm for insane 00:22:496 (3) - what do you think about making this one circle instead
10:16 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
10:16 Mir: if it's the same slider as the rest it looks like it should be the same sound but it isn't
10:16 Mir: and differentiating it from the guitar would make it stand out more imo
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: I'll change it
10:17 Mir: 00:33:163 (3) - same for this one then if you do
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: I do have a slight concern thou
10:18 Mir: sure, whats up
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: For every 1/2 gap, I'll usually NC for colorhaxing
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: Doing this will leave like a 1/2 gap
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: But NC the next slider will kinda break the color pattern
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: Not NC it will be inconsistent
10:19 Mir: hmm.. that's true
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: I could do it like this, if you think it's fine
10:20 Mir: okay well, you can keep it then, but change the shape so it's noticeably different
10:20 Mir: also hitsound it as well with some drums or something so it's not audibly mapped to nothing
10:20 LeKhanhHoa: I was proposing it like this thou
10:21 Mir: okay show me
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:17:163 (4) - where there is vocal, I won't mute the slider (use the drum sampleset)
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:22:496 (3) - I will mute it
10:22 Mir: i think the opposite makes more sense
10:22 Mir: if you mute it players will know it's overmapped
10:22 Mir: if you have it with drums on the silence it works better than if on vocals
10:22 Mir: so instead of that you can probably remove the drums on the vocals and put then on 00:22:496 (3) -
10:23 LeKhanhHoa: So basically, mute where the vocals it, right?
10:23 Mir: i wouldn't say "mute" just removing the drum samples would be okay
10:24 Mir: replacing them with whistles or something might work
10:24 LeKhanhHoa: Different hitsound, okay
10:28 Mir: the rest of the changes look okay
10:28 Mir: just needs more hitsounding
10:28 LeKhanhHoa: So I put a whistle on 00:22:496 (3) - and every slider that is similar
10:29 Mir: uhm
10:29 Mir: soft whistle sure
10:29 LeKhanhHoa: OK
10:30 LeKhanhHoa: Now, you want the drum sounds in the kial, yes?
10:30 Mir: mhm
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I just copy the diff you gave me
10:32 Mir: a
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: And the kial all has soft additions
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Is that normal?
10:32 Mir: but
10:32 Mir: if you copy that then that's basically me hitsounding a section for you
10:32 Mir: which gets into grey area with nomination
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah, let me revert
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Ok done
10:32 Mir: now you can use your own hitsounding structure to do it instead of mine
10:33 Mir: i always default all objects to soft additions thats why lol
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: So, more drum, right?
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: That'll be like more green line uhhh
10:34 Mir: you can use the same sampleset no?
10:34 Mir: just replacing the drum
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: The drum is on S:C1
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: Kial is all S:C2 thou
10:35 Mir: you can move the drum from c1 to c2
10:35 Mir: just changing what it's on, like maybe drum-hitnormal
10:35 Mir: and then use the rest of the additions as you have been
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I don't have softhitwhisle-2 yet
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, on Easy
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: 01:13:163 (3) - is a gap where there should be a drum
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Should I add it?
10:38 Mir: you can
10:45 LeKhanhHoa: So, uhh, I've updated it
10:46 LeKhanhHoa: I've also duplicate soft-hitwhistle into a soft-hitwhistle2
10:46 Mir: 01:01:163 (2) - whistle maybe here
10:47 Mir: 01:06:496 (3) - maybe here too?
10:47 LeKhanhHoa: 00:58:496 - Here too?
10:48 Mir: you could but then you'd have to do it for the rest of them
10:48 LeKhanhHoa: I could but should I?
10:48 Mir: 01:00:830 - could whistle here
10:49 Mir: 01:01:496 (4) - oh what about making this a straight slider, flow into it from 01:01:330 (3) - is kinda weird imo
10:49 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
10:49 Mir: whether you should is up to you i think
10:50 Mir: but i can still hear plenty of places where it's possible to put hitsounds
10:50 LeKhanhHoa: I'd prefer 1st and 3rd red tick thou
10:51 Mir: NC here? 01:01:330 (3) -
10:51 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - *
10:52 LeKhanhHoa: 01:01:330 (3) - Here I don't think it fits thou
10:52 Mir: yeah no that was a wrong link
10:52 Mir: the link underneath
10:52 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - ?
10:52 Mir: or 01:13:830 (3) - here
10:53 Mir: well first let me send you something
10:53 Mir: https://puu.sh/wGREH/10b6b78d2f.osu
10:53 Mir: here are some possible places to put hitsounds, i marked them with bookmarks
10:55 LeKhanhHoa: OK let me see
10:56 LeKhanhHoa: I still really don't know about the drum at the big white tick?
10:56 Mir: it's a double drum i think
10:56 Mir: it's like boom boom
10:57 LeKhanhHoa: Ok then
11:00 LeKhanhHoa: 01:18:164 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why are all of this bookmark?
11:01 Mir: they can have drums on them
11:01 Mir: cuz in the song there are a lot of them
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Can I put clap there?
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Sound kinda better
11:01 Mir: hmm, but in the song there's no claps there
11:02 LeKhanhHoa: Ok, so I put drum on 01:18:496 (2,3,4) - head
11:03 Mir: okay
11:03 LeKhanhHoa: Let me do the other diffs and I'll update
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, LMT's diff skips the metronome
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: At 01:00:663 (1) -
11:06 Mir: that's fine
11:06 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
11:07 Mir: uhm
11:07 Mir: did you add the drums after all? it looks the same xD
11:08 LeKhanhHoa: I problably forget this diff thou lol
11:08 Mir: 01:13:496 (1,2,3) - whats with this ncing though
11:09 Mir: on easy it's fine cuz downbeat but
11:09 Mir: on normal it skips downbeat
11:09 Mir: insane too
11:10 LeKhanhHoa: I think I was doing vocal NC
11:10 Mir: oh
11:10 Mir: i see
11:12 Mir: 01:01:330 (3,4) - also
11:12 Mir: xd
11:13 LeKhanhHoa: ?
11:13 Mir: i suggested you make 4 straight and you said yes
11:13 Mir: but maybe you forgot to do it
11:13 Mir: idk
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh wait this is Normal right?
11:14 Mir: insane
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I just fix it
11:15 LeKhanhHoa: Just hasn't updated yet
11:15 Mir: ah okay
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Ok updated
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Hope I don't forget anything dumb now
11:16 Mir: oh it sounds nice now
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: Probably
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: I've been listening to this song for like 100 times now
11:19 Mir: looks good
11:19 Mir: do you have metadata
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: I got this from the record company on YT
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI
11:20 Mir: do you have it on their main website or something?
11:20 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
11:24 Mir: I can't find anything lol
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: lol I'm trying too
11:25 Mir: i think we can go with the youtube link
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah
11:25 Mir: it's official and verified
11:25 Mir: however
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
11:25 Mir: 「Freesia」
11:25 Mir: this should probably be the uh
11:25 Mir: the title
11:26 Mir: lemme ask
11:26 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah I'll wait
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: Oh I got this
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
11:29 Mir: ohh
11:29 Mir: that looks good one sec
11:29 LeKhanhHoa: But I can't read Japanese
11:29 Mir: okay we don't need the brackets lol
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: So everything's good now, right?
11:30 Mir: yea
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: Are you gonna bubble it now?
11:31 Mir: yep
11:31 Mir: making the post
10:01 Mir: hiii~
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Is there any problem?
10:02 Mir: the hitsounding is still pretty lacking
10:02 *Mir is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320855 (K)NoW_NAME - Freesia [Easy]]
10:02 LeKhanhHoa: Oh
10:03 Mir: 00:59:830 - notes like this could have the same hitsounds as 00:54:496 (3) -
10:03 Mir: the drum beat didn't really change but the hitsounds started ignoring it
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Blame headphone
10:04 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
10:04 Mir: it's every 1st and 3rd red tick that there's a kick drum
10:06 LeKhanhHoa: So I can add the drum sound and it'll be fine?
10:06 Mir: essentially yea
10:06 Mir: there's just not enough feedback
10:06 Mir: you do hear the kick drum i'm talking about right o.o
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: Audible, but very small thou
10:07 Mir: yeah so the hitsounds can bring that out more
10:07 Mir: either way just a couple of claps and a finish here and there isn't enough
10:07 Mir: you can also use whistles on vocals if you want to as well (which i recommend you try)
10:07 LeKhanhHoa: So, 1st and 3rd red tick drum sound, right?
10:08 Mir: for the most part, it varies slightly as the kiai goes on
10:08 Mir: you could just do the 1st white, 1st red, 3rd red
10:09 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I can't hear 1st red
10:10 Mir: for easy you can try something like this https://puu.sh/wGQpH/fff0a5084e.osu
10:10 Mir: idk if you wanna change the samplesets though, the kick you used before sounds pretty fitting
10:11 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check this
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Sound alright
10:13 Mir: if you wanna you can also add whistles
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: Do I still need to add the drum sound?
10:13 Mir: yea you should
10:13 LeKhanhHoa: OK wait me a bit
10:14 Mir: 00:37:496 (2,1) - owo overlap in normal xd
10:14 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:15 Mir: hmm for insane 00:22:496 (3) - what do you think about making this one circle instead
10:16 LeKhanhHoa: Idk
10:16 Mir: if it's the same slider as the rest it looks like it should be the same sound but it isn't
10:16 Mir: and differentiating it from the guitar would make it stand out more imo
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: Fair enough
10:17 LeKhanhHoa: I'll change it
10:17 Mir: 00:33:163 (3) - same for this one then if you do
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: I do have a slight concern thou
10:18 Mir: sure, whats up
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: For every 1/2 gap, I'll usually NC for colorhaxing
10:18 LeKhanhHoa: Doing this will leave like a 1/2 gap
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: But NC the next slider will kinda break the color pattern
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: Not NC it will be inconsistent
10:19 Mir: hmm.. that's true
10:19 LeKhanhHoa: I could do it like this, if you think it's fine
10:20 Mir: okay well, you can keep it then, but change the shape so it's noticeably different
10:20 Mir: also hitsound it as well with some drums or something so it's not audibly mapped to nothing
10:20 LeKhanhHoa: I was proposing it like this thou
10:21 Mir: okay show me
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:17:163 (4) - where there is vocal, I won't mute the slider (use the drum sampleset)
10:21 LeKhanhHoa: For 00:22:496 (3) - I will mute it
10:22 Mir: i think the opposite makes more sense
10:22 Mir: if you mute it players will know it's overmapped
10:22 Mir: if you have it with drums on the silence it works better than if on vocals
10:22 Mir: so instead of that you can probably remove the drums on the vocals and put then on 00:22:496 (3) -
10:23 LeKhanhHoa: So basically, mute where the vocals it, right?
10:23 Mir: i wouldn't say "mute" just removing the drum samples would be okay
10:24 Mir: replacing them with whistles or something might work
10:24 LeKhanhHoa: Different hitsound, okay
10:28 Mir: the rest of the changes look okay
10:28 Mir: just needs more hitsounding
10:28 LeKhanhHoa: So I put a whistle on 00:22:496 (3) - and every slider that is similar
10:29 Mir: uhm
10:29 Mir: soft whistle sure
10:29 LeKhanhHoa: OK
10:30 LeKhanhHoa: Now, you want the drum sounds in the kial, yes?
10:30 Mir: mhm
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Wait, I just copy the diff you gave me
10:32 Mir: a
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: And the kial all has soft additions
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Is that normal?
10:32 Mir: but
10:32 Mir: if you copy that then that's basically me hitsounding a section for you
10:32 Mir: which gets into grey area with nomination
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah, let me revert
10:32 LeKhanhHoa: Ok done
10:32 Mir: now you can use your own hitsounding structure to do it instead of mine
10:33 Mir: i always default all objects to soft additions thats why lol
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: Okay
10:33 LeKhanhHoa: So, more drum, right?
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: That'll be like more green line uhhh
10:34 Mir: you can use the same sampleset no?
10:34 Mir: just replacing the drum
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: The drum is on S:C1
10:34 LeKhanhHoa: Kial is all S:C2 thou
10:35 Mir: you can move the drum from c1 to c2
10:35 Mir: just changing what it's on, like maybe drum-hitnormal
10:35 Mir: and then use the rest of the additions as you have been
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I don't have softhitwhisle-2 yet
10:36 LeKhanhHoa: Done
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, on Easy
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: 01:13:163 (3) - is a gap where there should be a drum
10:38 LeKhanhHoa: Should I add it?
10:38 Mir: you can
10:45 LeKhanhHoa: So, uhh, I've updated it
10:46 LeKhanhHoa: I've also duplicate soft-hitwhistle into a soft-hitwhistle2
10:46 Mir: 01:01:163 (2) - whistle maybe here
10:47 Mir: 01:06:496 (3) - maybe here too?
10:47 LeKhanhHoa: 00:58:496 - Here too?
10:48 Mir: you could but then you'd have to do it for the rest of them
10:48 LeKhanhHoa: I could but should I?
10:48 Mir: 01:00:830 - could whistle here
10:49 Mir: 01:01:496 (4) - oh what about making this a straight slider, flow into it from 01:01:330 (3) - is kinda weird imo
10:49 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
10:49 Mir: whether you should is up to you i think
10:50 Mir: but i can still hear plenty of places where it's possible to put hitsounds
10:50 LeKhanhHoa: I'd prefer 1st and 3rd red tick thou
10:51 Mir: NC here? 01:01:330 (3) -
10:51 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - *
10:52 LeKhanhHoa: 01:01:330 (3) - Here I don't think it fits thou
10:52 Mir: yeah no that was a wrong link
10:52 Mir: the link underneath
10:52 Mir: 01:14:163 (4) - ?
10:52 Mir: or 01:13:830 (3) - here
10:53 Mir: well first let me send you something
10:53 Mir: https://puu.sh/wGREH/10b6b78d2f.osu
10:53 Mir: here are some possible places to put hitsounds, i marked them with bookmarks
10:55 LeKhanhHoa: OK let me see
10:56 LeKhanhHoa: I still really don't know about the drum at the big white tick?
10:56 Mir: it's a double drum i think
10:56 Mir: it's like boom boom
10:57 LeKhanhHoa: Ok then
11:00 LeKhanhHoa: 01:18:164 (1,2,3,4,5) - Why are all of this bookmark?
11:01 Mir: they can have drums on them
11:01 Mir: cuz in the song there are a lot of them
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Can I put clap there?
11:01 LeKhanhHoa: Sound kinda better
11:01 Mir: hmm, but in the song there's no claps there
11:02 LeKhanhHoa: Ok, so I put drum on 01:18:496 (2,3,4) - head
11:03 Mir: okay
11:03 LeKhanhHoa: Let me do the other diffs and I'll update
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, LMT's diff skips the metronome
11:05 LeKhanhHoa: At 01:00:663 (1) -
11:06 Mir: that's fine
11:06 LeKhanhHoa: Okay then
11:07 Mir: uhm
11:07 Mir: did you add the drums after all? it looks the same xD
11:08 LeKhanhHoa: I problably forget this diff thou lol
11:08 Mir: 01:13:496 (1,2,3) - whats with this ncing though
11:09 Mir: on easy it's fine cuz downbeat but
11:09 Mir: on normal it skips downbeat
11:09 Mir: insane too
11:10 LeKhanhHoa: I think I was doing vocal NC
11:10 Mir: oh
11:10 Mir: i see
11:12 Mir: 01:01:330 (3,4) - also
11:12 Mir: xd
11:13 LeKhanhHoa: ?
11:13 Mir: i suggested you make 4 straight and you said yes
11:13 Mir: but maybe you forgot to do it
11:13 Mir: idk
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh wait this is Normal right?
11:14 Mir: insane
11:14 LeKhanhHoa: Oh, I just fix it
11:15 LeKhanhHoa: Just hasn't updated yet
11:15 Mir: ah okay
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Ok updated
11:16 LeKhanhHoa: Hope I don't forget anything dumb now
11:16 Mir: oh it sounds nice now
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: Probably
11:17 LeKhanhHoa: I've been listening to this song for like 100 times now
11:19 Mir: looks good
11:19 Mir: do you have metadata
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: I got this from the record company on YT
11:19 LeKhanhHoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNL7Y_EjuhI
11:20 Mir: do you have it on their main website or something?
11:20 LeKhanhHoa: Let me check
11:24 Mir: I can't find anything lol
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: lol I'm trying too
11:25 Mir: i think we can go with the youtube link
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah
11:25 Mir: it's official and verified
11:25 Mir: however
11:25 LeKhanhHoa: Yes
11:25 Mir: 「Freesia」
11:25 Mir: this should probably be the uh
11:25 Mir: the title
11:26 Mir: lemme ask
11:26 LeKhanhHoa: Yeah I'll wait
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: Oh I got this
11:27 LeKhanhHoa: http://www.toho.co.jp/dvd/item/html/TDV/TDV27241D.html
11:29 Mir: ohh
11:29 Mir: that looks good one sec
11:29 LeKhanhHoa: But I can't read Japanese
11:29 Mir: okay we don't need the brackets lol
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: So everything's good now, right?
11:30 Mir: yea
11:30 LeKhanhHoa: Are you gonna bubble it now?
11:31 Mir: yep
11:31 Mir: making the post
Set looks fine, let's give this a shot.
Bubbled!