can you add "compilation" to tags before getting this qualified?
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But probably peppy is busy working on scorev2, so I'd rather see standard-only options in beatmap setup.
And on another side, I am trying to delete some notes, while still keeping the most crucial things including patterns I'd like players to enjoy, without hurting the essence of the map
in ctb "slider-starts" or "reverse arrows" all count as "objects" that apply to "combo-multiplying" score calculation, which means you get at least twice more (if it has reverses then the amount can be bigger depending on the amount of reverses one slider has) than you can get in standard mode. this is why ctb scores are often a lot higher than that on the same map of standard mode
hope the problem can be solved soonso that i can farm lol
Also didn't you think about mapping the last missing Tinfoil song? It's pretty short and maybe you could fit it within the score limit.
And though Tinfoil is a separated instrumental track, it is more like a prelude of powerless so I did once think that there was no need to include it. But now altnc is removed and the score won't overflow anymore, let me do that. Thank you for your suggestion!
EDIT: The score will overflow again with additional mods. So leave it as it is for now. orz
btw, timing fixed due to mp3 cutting
pretty much one of the very reasons why i avoid mapping long songs tho i do want to map an album
but this is the prob that scares me and it really prevents this from ranking
looking forward for the set to be ranked (and the score thing fixed)
... but I've pm'ed Desperate-kun to confirm the rankability just now and am waiting for his response.
Map so longggg 
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Seems that I deleted the unused files but forgot to update the mapset orz... Sorry for inconvenience.
Meantime, I added the tag compilation on the safe side. ;w;
Meantime, I added the tag compilation on the safe side. ;w;
Enough is enough. Let's roll.
Rebubbled. 
#1
Rebubble #2
wow
this will gonna ranked soon
this will gonna ranked soon
Happy Chinese New Year!
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THANK YOU ALL! I LOVE YOU!
Happy Lunar New Year!
Congratz man! And Happy New Year
Happy New Year!
This beatmap currently surpasses 2.147 billion score on Catch the Beat, therefore causing an overflow and turning the score into negative. It's not rankable unless the scoring system is changed to scorev2 as default.
The same issue happened with this beatmap t/186184 and the developers told the mapper to either remap, cut the song or wait for score v2.
The same issue happened with this beatmap t/186184 and the developers told the mapper to either remap, cut the song or wait for score v2.
fuk u ctb
64-bit integer when
64-bit integer when
Haha yes.
why wasnt this fixed a year ago
why wasnt this fixed a year ago
congratulations!
Guess peppy is lazy to port osu! at 64-bit. When?
i made sure it doesn't happen on std, but happens on ctb instead. fuck
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oh wth...
in fact unsigned 32bit score would solve the problem without additional space
what should I do now
in fact unsigned 32bit score would solve the problem without additional space
what should I do now
Well either you cut the song or you wait until the osu!lazer is out (just guessing it's fixed there, not sure)
i dont know how ctb scoring works, but if its something closer to std maybe decreasing difficulty values (cs, hp, od, ar) might solve the problem.
you can cut it into a few parts if that doesnt work, i think you should be fine with same mp3 but with seperate diffs. while there *is* a rule that states you have to map like at least 70% of map i think (correct me if im wrong) i think we can make exception for this set.
you can cut it into a few parts if that doesnt work, i think you should be fine with same mp3 but with seperate diffs. while there *is* a rule that states you have to map like at least 70% of map i think (correct me if im wrong) i think we can make exception for this set.
So the osu!standard maps rankability strictly depend on how maps behave in the other game modes that they are not dedicated for?
Where can I find the precise rules about how maps dedicated to be played in osu!Std, by Std players and on Std rules, have to behave after gimmick auto-converting to other mods, so it can be ranked in Std?
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Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?
Where can I find the precise rules about how maps dedicated to be played in osu!Std, by Std players and on Std rules, have to behave after gimmick auto-converting to other mods, so it can be ranked in Std?
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Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?
That would honestly be a good idea.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?
yes because if someone FCs this map in ctb after it gets ranked, they will lose about 2 billion score from their total ranked score, not to mention the rankings would show their scores at the bottom of the ladder as they are negative (less than zero)Scarlet Evans wrote:
So the osu!standard maps rankability strictly depend on how maps behave in the other game modes that they are not dedicated for?
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That's what I am glad to see (there should be an option for std-only maps, the same as other modes), since the map is designed only for stdF1r3tar wrote:
That would honestly be a good idea.Scarlet Evans wrote:
Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?
pretty sure that's out of the question, right now the difficulty multiplier is at 15.5 = 4x (the range is something like 10.7 ~ 18 for 4x, idk why it conflicts with the wiki). to drop the multiplier would be getting its cumulative settings for CS, OD, and HP to be below 10.7. unless you'd like a CS3, HP3 and OD4.6 marathon over a ranked map, I suggest waiting for a better solution.diraimur wrote:
i dont know how ctb scoring works, but if its something closer to std maybe decreasing difficulty values (cs, hp, od, ar) might solve the problem.
you can cut it into a few parts if that doesnt work, i think you should be fine with same mp3 but with seperate diffs. while there *is* a rule that states you have to map like at least 70% of map i think (correct me if im wrong) i think we can make exception for this set.
Taking it down for now. Probably there is indeed no other solution than waiting until the bug is fixed or cutting the map in half or so :<
The map was qualified, I played it, after the play, I saw it unranked.
I will hate marathons ;w;
I will hate marathons ;w;
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What a pity is it! But I believe there exists such kind of solution
1. Allowing beatmaps to be played on osu!std only, like taiko, ctb and mania specialties.
2. Unable scoreboard on ctb mode
3. Fix the bug by using signed or unsigned __int64. This require x2 space
4. Fix the bug by using unsigned 32bit int, since no score has overflowed to negative before so the signbit is 0 on all scores uploaded. This doesn't require additional space
5. Remove some notes so that the total score on ctb will be under 1<<31 (I'm working on this but it hurts)
dev plz
1. Allowing beatmaps to be played on osu!std only, like taiko, ctb and mania specialties.
2. Unable scoreboard on ctb mode
3. Fix the bug by using signed or unsigned __int64. This require x2 space
4. Fix the bug by using unsigned 32bit int, since no score has overflowed to negative before so the signbit is 0 on all scores uploaded. This doesn't require additional space
5. Remove some notes so that the total score on ctb will be under 1<<31 (I'm working on this but it hurts)
3. Fix the bug by using signed or unsigned __int64. This require x2 space
-> literally 4 more bytes lol
Just the same solution how the view count of Gangnam Style on YT had been fixed.
-> literally 4 more bytes lol
Just the same solution how the view count of Gangnam Style on YT had been fixed.
@peppy
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I think the reason why peppy wouldn't make a change on unsigned int is that (I'm not sure how this works, please correct me if I'm wrong) there would need to be a recalculation in every single submitted score to convert to the new system, and scorev2 is somewhat close to release, so I believe he's not too interested in doing that
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Score recalculation may not be necessary as for integer 0..2147483647 the binary are the same in both unsigned or signed (but for 2147483648..4294967295, they have the same binary with -2147483648..-1 respectively). Correct me if things in osu database go another way.Blue Dragon wrote:
I think the reason why peppy wouldn't make a change on unsigned int is that (I'm not sure how this works, please correct me if I'm wrong) there would need to be a recalculation in every single submitted score to convert to the new system, and scorev2 is somewhat close to release, so I believe he's not too interested in doing that
But probably peppy is busy working on scorev2, so I'd rather see standard-only options in beatmap setup.
And on another side, I am trying to delete some notes, while still keeping the most crucial things including patterns I'd like players to enjoy, without hurting the essence of the map
[Mahua] wrote:
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Recalculation is surely not needed. But he has to modify all the scores into the new data set. This wouldn't take too long though.
I hope peppy fixes it so you don't have to delete things from your map384059043 wrote:
Score recalculation may not be necessary as for integer 0..2147483647 the binary are the same in both unsigned or signed (but for 2147483648..4294967295, they have the same binary with -2147483648..-1 respectively). Correct me if things in osu database go another way.Blue Dragon wrote:
I think the reason why peppy wouldn't make a change on unsigned int is that (I'm not sure how this works, please correct me if I'm wrong) there would need to be a recalculation in every single submitted score to convert to the new system, and scorev2 is somewhat close to release, so I believe he's not too interested in doing that
But probably peppy is busy working on scorev2, so I'd rather see standard-only options in beatmap setup.
And on another side, I am trying to delete some notes, while still keeping the most crucial things including patterns I'd like players to enjoy, without hurting the essence of the map
RektCrystal wrote:
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I always thought ctb's score raises much faster than any other mode and wondered why.. My guess was that it has been made like that so that they could use the same level algorhithm as osu uses. But it's trully a shame because the map itself is perfectly fine.
You only get 30 points (or something) when clicking on a slider or encountering reverse arrows but "combo-multiplied" score when finishing it. it means you get just a tiny bit more points than clicking on a circleAnkanogradiel wrote:
I always thought ctb's score raises much faster than any other mode and wondered why.. My guess was that it has been made like that so that they could use the same level algorhithm as osu uses. But it's trully a shame because the map itself is perfectly fine.
in ctb "slider-starts" or "reverse arrows" all count as "objects" that apply to "combo-multiplying" score calculation, which means you get at least twice more (if it has reverses then the amount can be bigger depending on the amount of reverses one slider has) than you can get in standard mode. this is why ctb scores are often a lot higher than that on the same map of standard mode
hope the problem can be solved soon
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Decider par soi meme, encore faut-il qu'on ose
The decision comes that:
1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.
2. change the title.
3. the first track will be ranked one day separately. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/566773
LET'S ROLL AGAIN
The decision comes that:
1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.
2. change the title.
3. the first track will be ranked one day separately. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/566773
LET'S ROLL AGAIN
世界变化快
What was the idea of putting that one extra song to the album? Why would anyone do that?384059043 wrote:
1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.
Also didn't you think about mapping the last missing Tinfoil song? It's pretty short and maybe you could fit it within the score limit.
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I once would like to include altnc since recharged is a remix version of living things with only one additional track. That's why I put all non-remixed songs together in both album.Exemmar wrote:
What was the idea of putting that one extra song to the album? Why would anyone do that?384059043 wrote:
1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.
Also didn't you think about mapping the last missing Tinfoil song? It's pretty short and maybe you could fit it within the score limit.
And though Tinfoil is a separated instrumental track, it is more like a prelude of powerless so I did once think that there was no need to include it. But now altnc is removed and the score won't overflow anymore, let me do that. Thank you for your suggestion!
EDIT: The score will overflow again with additional mods. So leave it as it is for now. orz
It still overflows with full mods in ctb but it should be fine with 3 mod or less. I hope that is disregardable as I don't think anyone will be playing this map with such mod combination.
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hopefully 4 mod on ctb is totally impossible hahariktoi wrote:
It still overflows with full mods in ctb but it should be fine with 3 mod or less. I hope that is disregardable as I don't think anyone will be playing this map with such mod combination.
btw, timing fixed due to mp3 cutting
Hi, I have a small question : The issue with the CTB mode is happening because the players get too much score ?
And if that happens here, why don't it happens on "The Unforgiving" ? https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=156352&m=2 (52:57 min marathon) ?
This marathon (Marathon diff) have 8903 max combo
and The Unforgiving (Marathon diff too) have 9289 max combo
So we can get more score in the Unforgiving than in Living Things.
So why this issue don't happen on the unforgiving ?
o_O
And if that happens here, why don't it happens on "The Unforgiving" ? https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=156352&m=2 (52:57 min marathon) ?
This marathon (Marathon diff) have 8903 max combo
and The Unforgiving (Marathon diff too) have 9289 max combo
So we can get more score in the Unforgiving than in Living Things.
So why this issue don't happen on the unforgiving ?
o_O
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This map is previously 10343 combos, causing an overflow. Now I have cut the first track so it is only 8903 combos and rankable now. Sorry for misunderstanding, and I think I should update the creator's words ;w;Lexis wrote:
Hi, I have a small question : The issue with the CTB mode is happening because the players get too much score ?
And if that happens here, why don't it happens on "The Unforgiving" ? https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=156352&m=2 (52:57 min marathon) ?
This marathon (Marathon diff) have 8903 max combo
and The Unforgiving (Marathon diff too) have 9289 max combo
So we can get more score in the Unforgiving than in Living Things.
So why this issue don't happen on the unforgiving ?
o_O
but this is the prob that scares me and it really prevents this from ranking
looking forward for the set to be ranked (and the score thing fixed)
Can we get someone from QAT/staff comment on the situation, if it's okay now and it's just the first track that's been removed I'd have no issue with rebubbling it.
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Sorry for not able to attend to this set, as things in real life is going terribly busyBakari wrote:
Can we get someone from QAT/staff comment on the situation, if it's okay now and it's just the first track that's been removed I'd have no issue with rebubbling it.
... but I've pm'ed Desperate-kun to confirm the rankability just now and am waiting for his response.Confirmed with Kurokami that playing this perfectly with 4 mods on CtB is basically impossible, considering the difficulty and length, so it's fine to be moved forward. Rebubble #1
Finally! <3
Good luck! I wish you didn't need to cut it though ;w;
Good luck! I wish you didn't need to cut it though ;w;
#2 cuz all good now.
I am hyped ! ! !
Mods shouldn't even matter as every map is mapped to be played with no mods or am I wrong?
& hype!
& hype!
Its sad that mapper need fix issue which is caused by game not being fine tuned :/
Hype
God bless you, you have all my love and respect.
Qualified. 
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<3
good job
Shouldn't it be iconed with flame? Gratz anyway ♥
强！
I'm so in love with this <3
LP + 384059043 = Love
LP + 384059043 = Love
CanadianBaka wrote:
good job
厉害了我的哥
膜膜膜
finally!
I have a lot of respect for you to map an entire album twice! Very few mappers have the patience to do that Congratulations!
Congratulations!dude this opening song is boner inducing i need to map this
Aaand ranked!
Fantastic map ♥
Fantastic map ♥
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YEAH FINALLY
Firstly a whole spread for Guilty All The Same and now this, you're the real MVP. Gratz for ranking it, keep it up!
Rest in Peace Chester Bennington 
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mancuso_JM_ wrote:
Rest in Peace Chester Bennington
RIP.
RIP
Rip.
Map so longggg