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Misure wrote:

这好像不太缺摸的样子...
好 总之以后我可以自豪的说我摸过一张40分钟的图

[Marathon]

1. 不加点audio leadin么 fixed
2. widescreen support不开？我这个分辨率下 sb的图都是缺两截 不能开
3. 00:04:058 (4,1) - 这组感觉有点近了 这个顺向flow更显得近了 或者1转90°然后尾巴叠到前面那个2上？ 感觉有点破坏这里的架构，虽然更好玩一些
4. 00:17:623 (2) - ctrl+G? 前面正反flow转换也挺频繁的 这里想根据前面的慢slider保持方向的恒常性
5. 00:27:275 (1,2) - 还是叠起来好? 这个白线钝角flow感觉有点突然 fixed
6. 00:55:449 (4,5) - 保持前面1-2那样的间距？有点突然减速的感觉... fixed
7. 01:20:231 (4) - 换两个单点？感觉01:20:362 - 这个音表现的不太明显 有道理，不过这里我想玩复制梗
8. 01:33:797 (4,1) - 这个感觉有点远了？毕竟后面几组NC都没拉得太远 fixed
9. 02:14:753 (1) - 反向？和前面那种做一组 故意加点变化的
10. 02:59:362 - 这个部分我突然想到了星爷Asymmetry的瞬间爆炸233 不过还是你这种稳啊
11. 03:22:318 (4,1) - 这个角度怎么感觉有点尴尬呢 还好呀
12. 03:39:275 (1,2) - 这俩稍微玩个减速？ 没必要，扭曲的滑条已经有一种*视觉*的减速效果了
13. 06:53:029 (3) - 07:54:120 (3) - 这不包一下么 间距问题包不了了
14. 08:10:483 (1,2,3) - 做个等距？或者复制粘贴120度旋转的那种（ （那样子会因为太胖摆不下的
15. 08:38:301 (4) - 感觉ctrl+J的形状好些？ 好像也不好看欸。。
16. 10:34:425 (1) - 10:34:842 (2) - 分别ctrl+G？接前面好一些而且能做成和下一组一样的接note效果 这里是故意逆向的233
17. 11:00:953 (4) - 叠到10:59:286 (2) - 的尾巴上？ 有点奇怪的样子
18. 11:06:370 (3) - ctrl+G好玩一点嗯 好主意
19. 11:24:981 (4,5) - 这俩不是一样的我好难受啊111 fixed
20. 13:45:224 (2,3,4,5,1) - 感觉这些可以分别反向 好像也挺好的.. 换了个摆法
21. 13:56:581 (4) - 这距离拉的好像有点远了 略突然 感觉放13:55:724 (2) - 头上就挺合适的
22. 14:49:295 (8,9) - ctrl+G？直接逆时针到底 虽然爽了些但是还是不自然
23. 14:53:366 (1,2) - 摆个包？ fixed
24. 15:27:438 (8,1) - 直接叠尾巴上也挺好的 从某种程度上还能给后面的空一拍做铺垫 卧槽 神
25. 16:59:223 (7) - 这个叠到滑条尾巴上？表现一个NC甩出去的效果 会比较难读，而且现在的已经有这种感觉了
26. 17:12:440 (1) - 这NC不是很有必要吧 从前面各处NC分布来看 改了
27. 18:40:361 (5) - NC？ 改了
28. 19:46:025 (4) - 19:49:025 (1) - 统一NC fixed
29. 21:11:337 (5) - 离后面略远 这角度更显远 不如和3号叠一起 这附近重新组织了一下
30. 22:06:275 (5) - 后半弧度再大一点表现音乐效果更好？也不是一定要包嘛 弧度大的话好像效果也不是很好
31. 22:47:933 (2) - 可以NC nc了后一个
32. 25:34:212 (4) - 拐的地方再小点可能更像音符233 调了调
33. 27:27:645 (7) - 这用直的就行吧 或者27:26:895 (3) - 似弯非直有点微妙 好
34. 27:36:395 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 从右向左？和前面反过来的 可以
35. 27:40:770 (10) - 可以NC强调节奏打击点？ 好
36. 30:34:819 (1,2) - 这里感觉突然近了 相对于附近排列 fixed
37. 35:12:366 (2) - NC？ 为了显示出来follow points
38. 38:57:372 (3,4,5) - 这个好像有点突然... 还好感觉
39. 38:58:657 (2) - 放下面 然后那三个滑条拉开点距离？ fixed

384教授好厉害啊orz
Good luck!

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Rixia Mao wrote:

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384教我上作图课系列

红色unrankable，黑体强烈建议，overlap一些地方最好改改，略奇怪

HP太低了吧，1和2.5...主难度起码上4啊，我觉得2和5比较好 change HP to 2, 3.5 respectively
主难度OD8会好一点？ fixed
39:33:373 - 两个diff都是，红绿线volume不同 fixed

主要摸nazi和overlap，节奏感觉还好
摸个图和上课一样

18:20 to 19:30

[Lite]

1. 00:33:275 (4,1) - 这个stack有点突然，尤其是00:33:536 - downbeat，分开比较好。00:40:579 (2,3) - 这个的话到可以，因为没有音的empahsis 想留点顿挫感
2. 01:14:753 - 加一个圈？
3. 01:48:666 - clickable？ fixed
4. 04:16:985 (1,3) - dont overlap fixed
5. 05:32:774 (1) - 这边undermap了吧，明显节奏很激烈，前面最起码用1/1滑条，然后05:34:669 - 这边开始2个1/2会好点 fixed
6. 05:44:847 - my fav song of lp but not mine 233
7. 07:15:392 (3,4) - too jb,overlap not jb, fixed
8. 07:16:483 (1,2) - blanket fixed
9. 10:45:536 (1,2) - blanket fixed
10. 13:33:652 (5,6) - 太几把难读，stack fixed
11. 13:44:795 (2,3) - 节奏上是不是2个滑条更好，可以突出滑条头，13:45:652 - 目前这样也没啥问题而且容易摆得好看
12. 16:49:569 (4,1) - 换节奏？16:49:866 - downbeat 改了
13. 16:56:995 - clickable？ 这里是1/4很难摆clickable的
14. 19:08:876 (4,1) - 没叠好
15. 26:40:395 (1) - 根据26:41:645 (1,2,3,1) - 以及你26:41:395 - 没跟，这个也该删掉 revamp this part
16. 27:36:395 (1,3) - avoid overlap？ fixed
17. 28:06:395 - 这我觉得滑条头or圈好多了 revamp this part
18. 28:11:645 - 28:12:145 - 不map？我觉得可以加圈 强调嘶吼
19. 28:59:395 (1) - 去掉NC吧 fixed
20. 32:22:866 (2,3,2,3) - 突然不对称 feel the break of perfect symmetry, the pain and sorrow rising from vain, and the warped love of helplessness flowing with the change of piano pitch
21. 38:07:443 (6,7) - 换节奏38:07:657 - 强调 fixed
22. 38:32:300 (4,1) - blanket fixed
23. 39:12:586 (2,4) - 节奏我觉得也可以斟酌一下，主要是39:12:800 - 这里我觉得最需要强调的是这个39:13:229 - 而不是39:12:800 -
24. 39:39:373 - 没音。 fixed

19:35 to 20:35

[Marathon]

1. 00:54:927 (2,4) - avoid overlap fixed
2. 03:34:579 (3,4,1) - 也别overlap？ fixed
3. 03:36:666 (7) - NC fixed
4. 04:06:880 (1,5) - 04:07:511 - 04:07:827 - 04:08:143 (1,5) - clap加上去好一点 fixed
5. 04:28:985 (4) - drum-clap? 用soft的会和前面一致，而且符合音乐这里的一个天然的clap，同时和后面的形成比较
6. 04:29:617 (1,1) - 加点whistle k
7. 04:42:248 - 这边开始音效建议和前面一样，尤其是04:42:880 (9,10) - 这种没声音啊 k
8. 05:10:353 (3,4,5,6) - 有点卡手，这个钝角略坑 k
9. 06:44:847 - 这边开始可以不用折返了，这个折返长了点 为了避免被搞事（因为是渐快的）所以改成转盘了
10. 07:02:301 (3,4,5,6,7,1) - 坑 改了
11. 07:21:256 (2,3,4,5) - 这个节奏有点莫名其妙吧，07:21:120 - 07:21:392 - 07:21:801 - 07:21:938 - 07:22:210 - 这几个有音，你好多都跟的没音 改了
12. 07:24:529 - 没音 改了
13. 07:45:938 - same as mentioned above the same
14. 11:24:564 (1) - 没音吧，这个圈overmap fixed
15. 11:41:092 (1) - 我日 你日
16. 12:05:536 (1) - cancel NC k
17. 12:17:897 (1) - 和前面一样，就算有beat也不该和12:18:036 (2,3) - 一样 fixed
18. 14:14:367 (6,7,8) - undermap 改了
19. 15:09:224 (6,7,8) - ^ ^
20. 18:28:480 (1) - cancel NC one by one by one
21. 18:58:480 (1,1,1,1,1) - ？？？ ^ origin of this pattern: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/26512
22. 21:10:400 (2,3,4) - 间距太大了。。这种21:16:400 (2,3,4) - 差不多了 可
23. 21:46:775 (6) - 21:52:775 (6) - NC 改了
24. 22:08:150 (5,6) - 意图没什么问题但是还是不要这样overlap 调了下
25. 22:44:600 (1,1,1) - 没必要spam ok
26. 25:56:395 - 25:57:395 - 25:58:395 - 25:59:395 - etc 只需要在这些地方NC，其他的完全没必要，看起来也不舒服
27. 27:00:895 (3,1) - 27:02:895 (3,1) - 分开一点，尴尬 好
28. 28:16:145 (1) - NC没必要 改了
29. 29:19:819 - 开始这一段NC也实在是太多了。。建议用前面的方法，不需要spam 这里加NC更方便读图
30. 31:43:256 (3,4) - ctrl+G一下？感觉读图更好玩 想在这停顿
31. 32:03:506 - 不map吗 特地强调这里的空拍
32. 32:14:166 - 这一段我觉得slider特别吵，如果滑条能静音就好了 fixed, plz redl
33. 38:59:086 (5,6,1) - avoid overlap fixed

音效改了别忘记复制，然后回一下前面的摸，美丽

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1. Due to flashing stuff like 03:58:038 - I'd enable the epilepsy waning just to be on the safe side.
2. Are you sure it's not LINKIN PARK? (capytalized) If not, we can check it together, just let me know.
3. 25:37:389 (1) - a break would do better here. Since the spinner feels like a really heaavy overkill. This much spinning in such a long map is a deadly thing.

1. 00:10:579 (1,3) - perhaps, you could move it to the left in order to prevent the overlap which appears slightly untidy here.
2. 00:23:101 (5,6) - might want to increase the spacing here as to be consistent with the jumps before/after this pattern.
3. 01:19:449 (1,4) - consider adding a slight unstack as to increase readability of the pattern? Or maybe rotate it slightly.
   Note: 03:41:362 (1,4) - same here.
4. 01:58:058 (1) - 02:00:145 (1) - these two combos don't really feel necessary. You should be able to take them down as to prevent the spammed feel of the song.
5. 04:00:722 (2,3) - try to Ctrl+G these two, as the sound clearly goes in doubles 1 and 3 being loud and jumpworthy, whereas 2 and 4 are just supporting beats.
   Note1: 04:03:248 (2,3) - same here.
   Note2: 04:02:616 (6) - you don't really need a jump on (6) for the same reason.
6. 04:06:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - Try to use louder hhitsounds to emphasize the main drum/bass line since it doesn't fade away during the stream.
   Note: 05:32:774 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2) - something similar would apply here. Otherise, this would feel somewhat overmapped.
7. 04:26:774 (4,1) - misses the jump for the consistency with 04:26:301 (2,3) -
8. 04:59:617 (5,1) - 05:01:037 (4,1) - feels like these two needs some jumps to stress the downbeat stuff and the drums.
9. 06:54:120 (7) - try a 1/2 slider and a circle to stress the downbeat on 06:54:665 - ? example
   Note: 07:55:211 (7) - same.
10. 06:59:301 (1,2,3) - you could also work with the drums and 1/2 rhythm here in a more precise way. example
    Note: 08:00:392 (1,2,3) - same.
11. 08:10:483 (1,2,3) - pretty sure they should use even spacing values to be spaced accordingly. I am sure this was the intended pattern.
12. 08:27:665 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern gives a lot of tension due to the way it is spaced. Perhaps, you could use lower DS as this part does not require anything that challenging?
13. 08:38:301 (4) - literally the first time in 8 minutes when such a slider appears. Are you sure you want that shape here? It could feel a bit out of your style, so I'd opt for something like this
    Note: 08:50:301 (3) - you'd have to change this one as well.
14. 11:41:092 (1) - I love you.
15. 14:02:581 (2,3,4,5) - if you select the pattern and Ctrl+g it, it will swap the rhythms emphasizing vocals and stronger ticks better. Give it a try!
    Note: 14:54:009 (2,3,4) - same here, 14:57:438 (2,3,4,5) - here, 15:02:367 (7,8,9) - here
16. 16:56:698 (8,1) - minor - the blanket here and around this combo could be improved.
17. 17:28:183 - 17:28:628 - the drums require some kind of some support. Add a circle for each of these beats?
18. 17:47:935 (6,7) - minor - not exactlu sure of these currves as they don't really appear anywhere before and feels way too aggressive. Wyh not stick to regular arc-shaped sliders?
19. 18:58:480 (1,1,1) - 18:59:668 (1) - remember I've mentiond excessive comboing feeling spammed? That is also the case here. try to remove these new combos to prevent patterns from feeling spammed.
20. 20:27:275 (3) - the shape here causes some kind of a glitched move, that can be avoided, try a kess aggressive angle here? example
21. 20:30:275 (1,2) - unstacking would keep the flow dynamic and work better here, I believe. example
    Note: 21:18:275 (5,6) - same?
22. 21:46:306 (2,3,4,5) - spacing change with no visible warning like a new combo may confuse players and make them think there's some snapping change. Either add a new ombo to warn about the DS change or stick to one DS? Same would happen 21:54:181 (2,3,4,5) - here.
    Note: I suggest sticking to some DS, just like you did it with 21:52:306 (2,3,4,5) -
23. 23:59:271 (2,3) - doesn't sound quite right to me, I would rather go with a 1/4 slider for the drums. example Or maybe two circles as the beat on the blue tick sounds pretty strong.
24. 23:59:624 (1,2) - then the same thing like with the pattern above continues. So, the whole thing would be more like this?
25. 25:26:448 (1) - I would add some hitsound to stress the music here. Whistle doesn't sound too bad if you ask me.
26. 26:41:270 (3) - the drums go for some kind of intensity increase, so two circles would do better. Besides, the beat on 26:41:395 - definitely asks for a circle. So, yeah, replace the slider with two circles?
27. 26:45:645 (6,7) - probably move (7) a bit apart just to make sure players read it as 1/2 and not a 1/4 jump.
28. 27:32:395 (1) - split this one into two sliders? example. After playing for twenty minutes non-stop this slider will definitely get players stressed as in they'll keep trying to guess the amount of repeats and stuff.
29. 28:45:395 (2,1) - space it frther apart to make sure it is readabe? So that it'd match the previous sliders and their spacing
30. 29:21:319 (1) - I generally feel like new combos in this part are overused. Perhaps, you could reduce the amount of them to make it mor reasonable?
31. 35:52:566 (1,2) - is there any way we could lower the spacing? this feels like a bit of an overkill, to be honest.
32. 38:20:943 (5,9,10) - selecting these and hitting Ctrl+G would stress the stronger beats.
    
    Pretty good for such a long and relatively old map. I will post stuff I have on lite soon. I'd also use higher stack leniency as to make sure stacks are readable all the time. As they not visible on powerless, for example.

1. Same stack leniency thing. Consider setting it higher for readability purposes.
2. 03:40:840 (5,4) - I would rather use 1/2 slider and a circle as there are individual drum hits on white ticks that need something clickable.
3. 04:17:617 (3,4) - minor - you might wnat to fix the blanket here.
4. 04:47:932 (3,4) - 04:49:195 (6,1) - are you sure stacks like these are readable for a Lite version. In the 1/2 chain they can be a bit confusing.
5. 11:41:370 (1,1) - since this is a lite version spreading spinners apart so that there is a bit of recovery time after the first one might be a good idea. You might as well remove 11:50:259 (1) - to give extra recovery time after the second one.
6. 14:38:367 (3,4,5) - Ctrl+G for the vocals and drums here as well. Should fit better this way.
7. 17:10:064 (3,4,5,1) - so, the overlap here can be avoided. Try something like this
8. 18:02:044 (2,3) - minor - blanketing here could be improved.
   Note: same 26:04:395 (1) - probably in a few more patterns. scan through the set quickly if you are up for fixing it.
9. 20:01:962 - probably a circle here, or you could try turning 20:01:775 (3) - intos lider.
10. 23:29:472 - end the slider here and then add a speparate circle on 23:30:241 - as this is where the new line starts.
11. 27:02:895 - since the vocals start here this is where I would expect (1) to be started.
12. 29:14:395 (1) - gets overlapped with the HP Bar, consider moving it lower?
    

Bakari wrote:

I regret every decision I have made as a beatmap nominator so far.

[General]

1. Due to flashing stuff like 03:58:038 - I'd enable the epilepsy waning just to be on the safe side. fixed that
2. Are you sure it's not LINKIN PARK? (capytalized) If not, we can check it together, just let me know.
   I took a short glance at lp's official website, got into a random news page (e.g. this), and found that they use "Linkin Park". Maybe they'd want a capitalized name for album covers, posters, news headings, etc. where almost everything is capitalized. Thus, both capitalized or not are okay from my point of view.
3. 25:37:389 (1) - a break would do better here. Since the spinner feels like a really heaavy overkill. This much spinning in such a long map is a deadly thing. I reduced the length of spinner sharply so that it won't be a fatal thing for marathon.

[Marathon]

1. 00:10:579 (1,3) - perhaps, you could move it to the left in order to prevent the overlap which appears slightly untidy here. I rearranged the placement
2. 00:23:101 (5,6) - might want to increase the spacing here as to be consistent with the jumps before/after this pattern. that's right
3. 01:19:449 (1,4) - consider adding a slight unstack as to increase readability of the pattern? Or maybe rotate it slightly. umm since I want it to be on Insane level (and what's more, the marathon is marked as Expert difficulty), maybe this pattern is acceptable as it doesn't require too much sightreading skills. In addition, the stack pattern is relatively interesting and quite attractive to me.
   Note: 03:41:362 (1,4) - same here.
4. 01:58:058 (1) - 02:00:145 (1) - these two combos don't really feel necessary. You should be able to take them down as to prevent the spammed feel of the song. fixed
5. 04:00:722 (2,3) - try to Ctrl+G these two, as the sound clearly goes in doubles 1 and 3 being loud and jumpworthy, whereas 2 and 4 are just supporting beats. That makes sense. And I revamp the part so that it could be more enjoyable.
   Note1: 04:03:248 (2,3) - same here.
   Note2: 04:02:616 (6) - you don't really need a jump on (6) for the same reason.
6. 04:06:880 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1) - Try to use louder hhitsounds to emphasize the main drum/bass line since it doesn't fade away during the stream. okay
   Note: 05:32:774 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,1,2) - something similar would apply here. Otherise, this would feel somewhat overmapped.
7. 04:26:774 (4,1) - misses the jump for the consistency with 04:26:301 (2,3) -
8. 04:59:617 (5,1) - 05:01:037 (4,1) - feels like these two needs some jumps to stress the downbeat stuff and the drums. I must have forgotten to take spacing into consideration.
9. 06:54:120 (7) - try a 1/2 slider and a circle to stress the downbeat on 06:54:665 - ? example That's what I want!
   Note: 07:55:211 (7) - same.
10. 06:59:301 (1,2,3) - you could also work with the drums and 1/2 rhythm here in a more precise way. example good idea
    Note: 08:00:392 (1,2,3) - same.
11. 08:10:483 (1,2,3) - pretty sure they should use even spacing values to be spaced accordingly. I am sure this was the intended pattern. fixed this
12. 08:27:665 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this pattern gives a lot of tension due to the way it is spaced. Perhaps, you could use lower DS as this part does not require anything that challenging? So I reduced the spacing.
13. 08:38:301 (4) - literally the first time in 8 minutes when such a slider appears. Are you sure you want that shape here? It could feel a bit out of your style, so I'd opt for something like this fixed
    Note: 08:50:301 (3) - you'd have to change this one as well.
14. 11:41:092 (1) - I love you. <3
15. 14:02:581 (2,3,4,5) - if you select the pattern and Ctrl+g it, it will swap the rhythms emphasizing vocals and stronger ticks better. Give it a try! I got your point, so I revamped this and the next three parts according to your suggestion.
    Note: 14:54:009 (2,3,4) - same here, 14:57:438 (2,3,4,5) - here, 15:02:367 (7,8,9) - here
16. 16:56:698 (8,1) - minor - the blanket here and around this combo could be improved. fixed
17. 17:28:183 - 17:28:628 - the drums require some kind of some support. Add a circle for each of these beats? After thorough consideration, I'd keep this as it is. For one thing, a space here makes this section more enjoyable for me. For another thing, I could emphasize 17:27:878 (1) - , and pave the way for 17:28:769 (3,4,5) - . Besides, lyric goes "Set this silence free", so I just want to keep this as it is.
18. 17:47:935 (6,7) - minor - not exactlu sure of these currves as they don't really appear anywhere before and feels way too aggressive. Wyh not stick to regular arc-shaped sliders? fixed
19. 18:58:480 (1,1,1) - 18:59:668 (1) - remember I've mentiond excessive comboing feeling spammed? That is also the case here. try to remove these new combos to prevent patterns from feeling spammed. The color spam is intended to be in line with the lyric, "one by one by one".
20. 20:27:275 (3) - the shape here causes some kind of a glitched move, that can be avoided, try a kess aggressive angle here? example fixed
21. 20:30:275 (1,2) - unstacking would keep the flow dynamic and work better here, I believe. example good idea.
    Note: 21:18:275 (5,6) - same?
22. 21:46:306 (2,3,4,5) - spacing change with no visible warning like a new combo may confuse players and make them think there's some snapping change. Either add a new ombo to warn about the DS change or stick to one DS? Same would happen 21:54:181 (2,3,4,5) - here. It makes sense. I enlarged the spacing a bit in order to avoid misreading.
    Note: I suggest sticking to some DS, just like you did it with 21:52:306 (2,3,4,5) -
23. 23:59:271 (2,3) - doesn't sound quite right to me, I would rather go with a 1/4 slider for the drums. example Or maybe two circles as the beat on the blue tick sounds pretty strong. fixed
24. 23:59:624 (1,2) - then the same thing like with the pattern above continues. So, the whole thing would be more like this? umm... I am sure I follow the rap precisely.
25. 25:26:448 (1) - I would add some hitsound to stress the music here. Whistle doesn't sound too bad if you ask me. fixed
26. 26:41:270 (3) - the drums go for some kind of intensity increase, so two circles would do better. Besides, the beat on 26:41:395 - definitely asks for a circle. So, yeah, replace the slider with two circles? That's true and I fixed this 26:41:270 - . But I didn't fixed the next one 26:42:270 (2) - since there's no beat. Hope I've got your point right
27. 26:45:645 (6,7) - probably move (7) a bit apart just to make sure players read it as 1/2 and not a 1/4 jump. okay
28. 27:32:395 (1) - split this one into two sliders? example. After playing for twenty minutes non-stop this slider will definitely get players stressed as in they'll keep trying to guess the amount of repeats and stuff. Quite nice idea.
29. 28:45:395 (2,1) - space it frther apart to make sure it is readabe? So that it'd match the previous sliders and their spacing Looks better now.
30. 29:21:319 (1) - I generally feel like new combos in this part are overused. Perhaps, you could reduce the amount of them to make it mor reasonable? I'd like to, but the spacing gets messed up as there's no clue for note grouping. That's why I think newcombos are necessary here!
31. 35:52:566 (1,2) - is there any way we could lower the spacing? this feels like a bit of an overkill, to be honest. Rearranged those sliders so that it won't be too challenging while still reflect my feelings when listening to this moving song.
32. 38:20:943 (5,9,10) - selecting these and hitting Ctrl+G would stress the stronger beats. Things turn out to be better now.
    
    Pretty good for such a long and relatively old map. I will post stuff I have on lite soon. I'd also use higher stack leniency as to make sure stacks are readable all the time. As they not visible on powerless, for example. Set SL to 0.6 on both difficulties, as 0.7 might break some visual patterns while 0.6 works well.

[Marathon Lite]

1. Same stack leniency thing. Consider setting it higher for readability purposes.
2. 03:40:840 (5,4) - I would rather use 1/2 slider and a circle as there are individual drum hits on white ticks that need something clickable. fixed
3. 04:17:617 (3,4) - minor - you might wnat to fix the blanket here. okay
4. 04:47:932 (3,4) - 04:49:195 (6,1) - are you sure stacks like these are readable for a Lite version. In the 1/2 chain they can be a bit confusing. yeah fixed
5. 11:41:370 (1,1) - since this is a lite version spreading spinners apart so that there is a bit of recovery time after the first one might be a good idea. You might as well remove 11:50:259 (1) - to give extra recovery time after the second one. Sounds good. And I also removed 11:52:481 - to keep consistency.
6. 14:38:367 (3,4,5) - Ctrl+G for the vocals and drums here as well. Should fit better this way. Rearranged the rhythm. It works better.
7. 17:10:064 (3,4,5,1) - so, the overlap here can be avoided. Try something like this fixed
8. 18:02:044 (2,3) - minor - blanketing here could be improved. fixed
   Note: same 26:04:395 (1) - probably in a few more patterns. scan through the set quickly if you are up for fixing it.
9. 20:01:962 - probably a circle here, or you could try turning 20:01:775 (3) - intos lider. fixed
10. 23:29:472 - end the slider here and then add a speparate circle on 23:30:241 - as this is where the new line starts. that's right
11. 27:02:895 - since the vocals start here this is where I would expect (1) to be started. okay
12. 29:14:395 (1) - gets overlapped with the HP Bar, consider moving it lower? fixed

I guess that wraps it up. That truly was impressive in every possible way.

Hit me up when ready.

Sieg wrote:

promised to Bakari to take a look on timings here
everything seems quite decent, tho i would shift few things

190,000 / 229196 -> -6
110,000 / 336120 -> +7
101,000 / 983728 -> -8
97,667 / 1159569 -> 97.720 / 1159563
78,000 / 1331011 -> +5

1. 23:30:246 (1) - and I guess we could remove a new combo just to prevent excessive combo usage.

1. 01:19:449 (1,4) - asked around and we still believe these stacks should be slightly moved around. There is a plenty of other things that make this map difficult, so it's better to avoid borderline patterns. Besides, it will match with the rest of the patterns around, like 01:21:536 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - or 01:17:884 (1,2,3) - which give kind of a similar idea.

Bakari wrote:

Doubleposting so that you get a notification that I've posted here.

[Marathon Lite]

1. 23:30:246 (1) - and I guess we could remove a new combo just to prevent excessive combo usage. fixed

[Marathon]

1. 01:19:449 (1,4) - asked around and we still believe these stacks should be slightly moved around. There is a plenty of other things that make this map difficult, so it's better to avoid borderline patterns. Besides, it will match with the rest of the patterns around, like 01:21:536 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - or 01:17:884 (1,2,3) - which give kind of a similar idea. Probably. So I found a compromise by moving dozen pixels top-left. So is the same pattern occurring at the end of the track.

Almost there.

Desperate-kun wrote:

Random check, because I still love this as much as 2.5 years ago!

[Marathon]

01:14:753 (1) - I don't think a repeat slider fits here, because it's a constant sound and it's different from 01:16:318 (1) - etc. What about a slow-SV-slider like this http://puu.sh/tyEql/c61322e3ab.jpg or a single circle? well I came up with a slider of 2.0 SV that would be really awesome!
05:27:084 (1,2) - It seems a bit odd to have that slider without a jump afterwards, because you usually put jumps after 1/4-sliders in this song. What about http://puu.sh/tyEQt/4be4ae3195.jpg ? I got your point so I polished this part for the better.
06:35:036 (1,2) - The rhythm seems weird to me. The red ticks seem to be stronger sounds here, from drums or vocals, so what about shortening these sliders? makes sense. I've shortened the second slider so as to emphasize 06:35:854 - , while still kept the first slider extended.
19:14:512 (6) - Hmm, while the pattern is nice, mapping 19:14:809 - with a slider tail is bad emphasis, because there is a strong beat that should be clickable. Consider to make this two circles instead? That's right. Since I don't want to break the pattern, I revamp this part a bit.
20:02:712 (2) - I think it would be better to stack it on (1), for the vocal emphasis. Nice idea.
20:04:212 (2) - Same as above.
22:02:150 (5,6,7,8) - It would feel better to replace this stream with sliders like 22:01:775 (3,4) - , because the sounds are the same. Fixed this.
23:16:785 (2,3) - Another instance where repeat sliders don't really seem to fit, the sound in the music is pretty constant. So, I recommend you to use a spinner instead here, or a long slider. umm okay

[Marathon Lite]

11:41:370 (1,1) - Constantly changing volume of the spinner sounds weird. I know these are just the timing lines from Marathon, lol, but please remove these here. lol fixed
12:43:592 (1) - Same.

Didn't put so many explanations, because I thought this was going to be a long mod. Turns out it is pretty short regardless of the song length If there's anything unclear please ask. I can't believe I just modded 1:20h of maps

Call me back after you checked through this!

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Desperate-kun wrote:

Didn't put so many explanations, because I thought this was going to be a long mod. Turns out it is pretty short regardless of the song length

HootOwlStar wrote:

Quite concerned about the rhythm especially the offbeats throughout the In My Remains part, and how the drags are represented with 1/8 sliders in A Light That Never Comes. Besides the albums might need to be switched since A Light That Never Comes is imtroducex first.

Quite a number of things but I can't get access to my comp just yet. So I'm just pointing out the major ones first so that it will raise some attention.

1. I have to point out foremost that this song doesn't provide much rhythm to follow in a map. Or maybe you can do that, but I believe the rhythm would turn out to be quite dull and frustrate players(especially during a 40-min map!). So I tried to recreate the music under the guidance of intuition. This technique was and is widely used, and some of my favorite mappers like tieff featured this (feel free to check out https://osu.ppy.sh/s/42092 , that's amazing). So I find no fault with the overall rhythm.
2. Besides, to show that the rhythm is "recreated", hitsounds are of higher volumn so it won't be hard for players to find what to follow.

1. First, taking 17:28:769 (3,4,5) - as an example. The following diagram shows the movement of a player's finger
   

   Timeline: 3-0 4---0 5-0
   Movement: D U D   U D U (D for down, U for up)
   Drumline: X X X   X X X

   You may argue that the downbeat 17:29:660 - should be clickable, but from my perspective, rhythm can be shown both actively and passively. Clickable rhythms are played out actively by pressing down the button while tails are played by loosening the button. Since this part are more played by singletapping, players could feel the rhythm due to finger movement. That's why I think it is valid.
2. Second, symmetric design was taking into account while mapping this part. Patterns like 16:47:779 (2,3,4) - , 17:28:323 (2,3,4,5) - , etc. are of this kind. Still, taking 16:47:779 (2,3,4) - as example, I'd like to emphasize 16:47:779 - 16:48:076 - , and the way to do so is to place slider heads on them. To make it a symmetric pattern, 16:48:670 - should be of passive rhythm. So why didn't I alter 16:48:521 (4) - into 2 circles? That means I had to do the same with 16:47:779 (2) - . In that case, 16:47:927 - is of the same status in rhythm as 16:47:779 - , and that's what I don't want for this pattern.
3. Third, the downbeat 17:13:620 - is occupied by the tail of 17:12:432 (3) - . What I'd see as more important is the inner logical connection of lyrics here. "Feel alive" works as a verb-complement phrase, so it should be a union, by placing a slider covering 17:12:432 - 17:13:026 - 17:13:620 - . And what's more, the single word "alive" should not be split up, especially when I choose to follow the logic of lyrics. So a circle on 17:13:620 - is not a good idea from my perspective.

1. 00:07:971 (3) - Obvious drums. No need to explain more.
2. 00:24:666 (1,2,3,4) - Same above, but I added movements in order to show the transition of music.
3. 01:16:318 (1) - Obvious. I even added whistles.
4. 01:17:362 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - Nice from my perspective. I mapped out the rhythm by covering 01:17:362 - 01:17:623 - 01:17:884 - 01:18:145 - , and the change of pitch by placing 2 1/8 sliders 01:17:884 (1,2) - and one 3/8 slider 01:18:145 (3) - , instead of 2 3/8 sliders 01:17:362 (1,2) - or 4 1/8 sliders 01:18:405 (1,2,3,4) - , as 01:18:405 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:17:884 (1,2,3) - , 01:18:405 (1,2,3,4) - are of different pitches.
5. 01:20:492 (1) - Obvious.
6. 01:23:101 (1) - Obvious.
7. 01:39:797 (1,2,3,4) - +movements.
8. 01:48:145 (3) - Obvious.
9. 02:13:188 (3) - Same.
10. 02:21:536 (1) - Same
11. 02:29:884 (2,3) - The same. I even stressed 02:30:145 - out.
12. 02:38:231 (1) - Obvious.
13. 03:01:710 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Perfectly snapped. And you know a slow slider after 1/8s requiring high moving speed is quite entertaining.
14. 03:11:623 (1,2,3,4) - +movements. Players can play them as 4 circles.
15. 03:19:971 (2) - Obvious.
16. 03:28:318 (1) - Obvious.
17. 03:43:449 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1) - By placing 1/8 sliders the FX effect is vivid. Circles just make them dull.

1. Fixed title PNG for Victimized
2. Changed BG for Lies Greed Misery, Until it Breaks, and Roads Untraveled
3. 18:43:175 (6) -
4. 18:02:333 (1,2,3) -
5. 27:37:395 - in Lite difficulty
6. Add tags

Scarlet Evans wrote:

Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?

Scarlet Evans wrote:

So the osu!standard maps rankability strictly depend on how maps behave in the other game modes that they are not dedicated for?

F1r3tar wrote:

Scarlet Evans wrote:

Bonus question, not really suggesting anything: I know it's a little against the spirit, but if the map is dedicated for Std, not CTB, and the auto-converting causes the problems, can't the map be simply ranked for Std, Mania and Taiko, but not the CTB? Or ranked for all mods, then unranked for CTB?

That would honestly be a good idea.

diraimur wrote:

i dont know how ctb scoring works, but if its something closer to std maybe decreasing difficulty values (cs, hp, od, ar) might solve the problem.

you can cut it into a few parts if that doesnt work, i think you should be fine with same mp3 but with seperate diffs. while there *is* a rule that states you have to map like at least 70% of map i think (correct me if im wrong) i think we can make exception for this set.

Blue Dragon wrote:

I think the reason why peppy wouldn't make a change on unsigned int is that (I'm not sure how this works, please correct me if I'm wrong) there would need to be a recalculation in every single submitted score to convert to the new system, and scorev2 is somewhat close to release, so I believe he's not too interested in doing that

[Mahua] wrote:

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384059043 wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

I think the reason why peppy wouldn't make a change on unsigned int is that (I'm not sure how this works, please correct me if I'm wrong) there would need to be a recalculation in every single submitted score to convert to the new system, and scorev2 is somewhat close to release, so I believe he's not too interested in doing that

Score recalculation may not be necessary as for integer 0..2147483647 the binary are the same in both unsigned or signed (but for 2147483648..4294967295, they have the same binary with -2147483648..-1 respectively). Correct me if things in osu database go another way.

But probably peppy is busy working on scorev2, so I'd rather see standard-only options in beatmap setup.

And on another side, I am trying to delete some notes, while still keeping the most crucial things including patterns I'd like players to enjoy, without hurting the essence of the map

[Mahua] wrote:

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Crystal wrote:

WASTED LUL

Ankanogradiel wrote:

I always thought ctb's score raises much faster than any other mode and wondered why.. My guess was that it has been made like that so that they could use the same level algorhithm as osu uses. But it's trully a shame because the map itself is perfectly fine.

384059043 wrote:

1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.

Exemmar wrote:

384059043 wrote:

1. delete the first track so that it is purely an album.

What was the idea of putting that one extra song to the album? Why would anyone do that?

Also didn't you think about mapping the last missing Tinfoil song? It's pretty short and maybe you could fit it within the score limit.

riktoi wrote:

It still overflows with full mods in ctb but it should be fine with 3 mod or less. I hope that is disregardable as I don't think anyone will be playing this map with such mod combination.

Lexis wrote:

Hi, I have a small question : The issue with the CTB mode is happening because the players get too much score ?

And if that happens here, why don't it happens on "The Unforgiving" ? https://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmap?b=156352&m=2 (52:57 min marathon) ?
This marathon (Marathon diff) have 8903 max combo
and The Unforgiving (Marathon diff too) have 9289 max combo

So we can get more score in the Unforgiving than in Living Things.

So why this issue don't happen on the unforgiving ?

o_O

Bakari wrote:

Can we get someone from QAT/staff comment on the situation, if it's okay now and it's just the first track that's been removed I'd have no issue with rebubbling it.