Amatsuki - Chiisana Koi no Uta‬ · forum‬

Logic Agent

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, January 27, 2017 at 10:34:33 PM

Artist: Amatsuki
Title: Chiisana Koi no Uta
Tags: MONGOL800 utaite male vocal battle thzz happyrocket88 みっ君 Song of a Small Love
BPM: 218
Filesize: 32107kb
Play Time: 04:13
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (2.58 stars, 496 notes)
Agenthzz's Insane (4.42 stars, 696 notes)
Another (5.18 stars, 800 notes)
Battle's Normal (2.05 stars, 339 notes)
Hard (3.43 stars, 599 notes)
Rocket Agent's Beginner (1.1 stars, 156 notes)
thzz's Extra (5.81 stars, 843 notes)
Together (6.6 stars, 896 notes)

Download: Amatsuki - Chiisana Koi no Uta
Download: Amatsuki - Chiisana Koi no Uta (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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「This tender song will change the world」

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: sheela

: Xinely

: Self pop (new mp3)

: Xinely

: Sahuang

: Xinely

Redownload if you had this map before 1/29

Use custom hitsounds.

Spread

Collab Beginner - HappyRocket88 & Logic Agent

Normal - Battle

Advanced - Logic Agent

Hard - Logic Agent

Collab Insane - thzz & Logic Agent

Another - Logic Agent

Extra - thzz

Together - Logic Agent

Hitsounds - thzz
Video - Shad0w1and

Thanks for the testplays

and more I forgot to screenshot

Metadata Source: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28889526

Last edited by Logic Agent 5 years ago, edited 213 times in total.

Shad0w1and

1,586 posts

Joined April 2011

Shad0w1and 8 years ago

hi qt
buc ema p

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

o mg t hnak u

Lobelia

863 posts

Joined February 2014

Lobelia 8 years ago

i like this song~
hope you can rank it

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 8 years ago

finish! i hope you like it :3

http://puu.sh/sA2js/62c632c5c9.zip

also, i'd like you to check these

your video might have something wrong in framerate. comparing with original video, your video is much slow. (watch beginnings of Kiais)
.zip above includes my video, try to use it. (video offset is fine with -250ms)
you should add "MONGOL800" to tag. they composed this song.

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 8 years ago

d

osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: audio.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 146879
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.9
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 243552
DistanceSpacing: 1
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 16
TimelineZoom: 1.3

[Metadata]
Title:Chiisana Koi no Uta
TitleUnicode:Chiisana Koi no Uta
Artist:Amatsuki
ArtistUnicode:Amatsuki
Creator:Logic Agent
Version:Battle's Normal
Source:
Tags:this song isn't about a tragic love
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:-1

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:4
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:4
ApproachRate:3.2
SliderMultiplier:0.899999999999999
SliderTickRate:1

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//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples

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Karen

2,866 posts

Joined August 2013

Karen 8 years ago

use proper title pls

blanket mod

thzz

00:26:671 (2,3) - this looks not nice and should be a little more jumpy imo
00:45:525 (2,3,4,5) - hmm flow isn't good, suggestion http://puu.sh/sCxhm/02689b10e4.jpg
00:58:873 (1,2) - spacing shouldn't be larger than 00:58:598 (2,1) - this one, it confuses people
02:59:974 (1,2) - why not overlap like 02:58:598 (2,3) - this

good

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 8 years ago

Karen wrote:
use proper title pls

blanket mod

thzz
00:26:671 (2,3) - this looks not nice and should be a little more jumpy imo okay~
00:45:525 (2,3,4,5) - hmm flow isn't good, suggestion http://puu.sh/sCxhm/02689b10e4.jpg hmm i like zig-zag action ~~like CRN~~
00:58:873 (1,2) - spacing shouldn't be larger than 00:58:598 (2,1) - this one, it confuses people indeed, changed
02:59:974 (1,2) - why not overlap like 02:58:598 (2,3) - this okay
good thanks :3

thank you mod

@Agent
http://puu.sh/sCDkr/1e56f3600d.osu
and fixed soft-hitclap2
http://puu.sh/sCDah/224f4ec89d.wav

Oreon

51 posts

Joined July 2014

Oreon 8 years ago

IRC Mod

22:55 Cl9n: i got you
22:55 Cl9n: which diff
22:55 Logic Agent: topdiff
22:55 Logic Agent: btw
22:55 Logic Agent: use custom hitsounds
22:55 Logic Agent: sounds like aids w/o them
22:56 Cl9n: oh?
22:56 Cl9n: i tried mapping this song
22:56 Logic Agent: ya it's a good song
22:57 Logic Agent: need to finish last diff find mods then i have bns
22:57 Cl9n: hold on
22:58 Cl9n: i need ot get serious for this
22:58 Logic Agent: lmao ya
22:58 Logic Agent: the bpm isnt playin around
23:00 Logic Agent: and the streamy parts are rough
23:00 Cl9n: im not warmed up for streams
23:00 Logic Agent: dw i never hit them either
23:02 Logic Agent: ok the last kiai flows badly near the end
23:02 Logic Agent: as expected
23:03 Logic Agent: did anything other than that feel wrong
23:03 Logic Agent: in particular
23:03 Cl9n: this is probably just me
23:04 Cl9n: but i thought 00:41:396 (1,2) - was mapped to the vocals lol
23:04 Logic Agent: lmfao
23:04 Logic Agent: i can see how that would happen
23:04 Cl9n: i was wondering why im hitting it early
23:04 Logic Agent: however like i'm hoping the distance would help
23:04 Logic Agent: maybe i should go bigger
23:04 Logic Agent: to like make sure the player is reading it
23:04 Logic Agent: as best they can
23:06 Cl9n: 01:19:653 (4) - nothings here
23:06 Cl9n: or am i just deaf
23:07 Logic Agent: well
23:07 Logic Agent: to be honest i'm probably going to have a hell of a time
23:07 Logic Agent: defending the kick sliders and stream in general
23:07 Logic Agent: but i hear a drum roll or osmething in the background
23:07 Logic Agent: which, yes, it's in the bg, but i chose to map it because i feel like it emphasizes the 01:19:791 (1,2) very well
23:08 Cl9n: 01:23:644 (1) - flow feels better with this flipped
23:08 Cl9n: oh the streams are fine
23:08 Cl9n: i just cant hit them lol
23:09 Logic Agent: i talked with someone about that
23:09 Logic Agent: and it's like
23:09 Logic Agent: if i flip that
23:09 Logic Agent: it puts emphasis on the 2
23:09 Logic Agent: when the emphasis is supposed to be on the 3 4
23:09 Logic Agent: cause the vocals?
23:09 Logic Agent: with the backward motion
23:09 Logic Agent: im gonna leave it as it is for now but i do agree with you it feels better that way, but takes away from what i was going for with the next two sliders when i do that
23:09 Cl9n: oh i see it now
23:09 Cl9n: nah youre good
23:10 Logic Agent: well i mean there's no question that it does "feel" nicer to play
23:10 Logic Agent: but like.. the emphasis is all messed up that way
23:10 Logic Agent: so ya
23:11 Cl9n: 01:28:873 (5,6,7,8) - this part of the stream is supposed to blanket the next slider right?
23:11 Logic Agent: yeah
23:11 Logic Agent: is it a tiny bit off
23:11 Logic Agent: i'll kms
23:11 Cl9n: 01:29:079 (8) - this is
23:11 Logic Agent: if i move the slider up 3 pixels
23:11 Logic Agent: does that fix it in your opinion
23:12 Cl9n: not really
23:12 Logic Agent: https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/rpsA90D.png
23:12 Logic Agent: looks better to me >>
23:12 Cl9n: oh wait lol
23:12 Cl9n: sorry i had ds on LOL
23:12 Logic Agent: o lmao
23:12 Cl9n: gs*
23:13 Logic Agent: did that for all of them, since its copypaste >>
23:13 Cl9n: move the slider to x:489 y:139
23:13 Cl9n: i think there looks better
23:14 Cl9n: its evenly distanced
23:14 Logic Agent: mk
23:16 Logic Agent: wait real quick
23:16 Logic Agent: 03:55:432 (4) -  is this 4
23:16 Logic Agent: blanketed inside of 03:54:470 (1) -
23:16 Cl9n:  ?
23:16 Logic Agent: for you?
23:16 Logic Agent: or is it way off to the left
23:16 Cl9n: off to the left
23:16 Logic Agent: lmfao that explains
23:16 Logic Agent: why you missed
23:16 Logic Agent: whoops
23:16 Logic Agent: idk how i did that
23:16 Cl9n: .-.
23:17 Logic Agent: moved by accident big mistake
23:17 Logic Agent: supposed to be blanketed in 1
23:17 Logic Agent: 03:54:470 (1) -
23:17 Cl9n: ok
23:17 Cl9n: thats a HUGE difference
23:17 Logic Agent: yeah
23:17 Logic Agent: lmfao
23:17 Logic Agent: complete accident
23:17 Cl9n:  03:57:703 (8,1) - this again :^
23:18 Logic Agent: btw post on thread when you're finished looking
23:18 Logic Agent: for kd
23:18 Logic Agent: ya i fixed all streams
23:18 Logic Agent: once i saw coords
23:18 Logic Agent: ;o
23:18 Cl9n: oh ok
23:20 Cl9n: 00:43:460 (3,4) - how come you decided to pause movement here?
23:20 Cl9n: but not before/after it?
23:21 Cl9n: its the only stacked circles on that section
23:21 Cl9n: ^ may have exaggerated there
23:21 Logic Agent: there are a few more throughout but i see what you mean
23:21 Logic Agent: this part is one of the few parts from a remap that i kept
23:21 Logic Agent: which had a lot more stacks
23:22 Logic Agent: i think it works nice with the vocals but it isa lil inconsistent
23:22 Cl9n: 00:51:992 (2,3,5,6) - like these i understand why you did it
23:22 Logic Agent: i don't think i'll change it tbh because there's no good place imo to put the 4
23:22 Logic Agent: honestly i might remap this part
23:23 Cl9n: that section isnt bad at all
23:23 Cl9n: somewhat excessive
23:23 Logic Agent: thats this whole map
23:23 Logic Agent: :p
23:24 Cl9n: shhh
23:24 Logic Agent: i'll change the stack if i can come up with something better
23:24 Cl9n: 01:41:809 (3,4,5,6,1) - was this supposed to be a star jump?
23:25 Logic Agent: no but it sure did turn out to be one didn't it
23:25 Cl9n: LOL
23:25 Cl9n: yeah it kinda did
23:26 Logic Agent: ok i made it less ugly
23:26 Logic Agent: i think
23:26 Cl9n: 01:59:699 (5,1) - stack their slider ends
23:26 Cl9n: if you can
23:26 Logic Agent: i like my overlap tho
23:26 Logic Agent: >>
23:27 Cl9n: |:<
23:27 Logic Agent: gotta love a "good" overlap
23:27 Cl9n: 02:15:387 (1) - was this really neccessary?
23:28 Logic Agent: i haven't even clicked it yet but the answer is probably not
23:28 Logic Agent: oh
23:28 Logic Agent: i did that in all my diffs
23:28 Logic Agent: make sure you didn't fall asleep
23:28 Cl9n: LOL
23:28 Logic Agent: idk i think it's nice
23:28 Cl9n: when i was playing
23:28 Cl9n: i was trying to readjust
23:28 Cl9n: but then that came
23:28 Cl9n: i was like, oh shit
23:29 Logic Agent: lmfao
23:29 Cl9n: 02:26:259 (9,1) - im not a fan of this spacing
23:29 Cl9n: dont you think its a bit too much?
23:29 Logic Agent: yes
23:29 Logic Agent: however
23:30 Logic Agent: mm
23:30 Cl9n: gonna break a wrist like that lol
23:30 Logic Agent: what if i stack 1 on 02:25:433 (2) -  02:25:433 (2) -
23:30 Logic Agent: ..
23:30 Logic Agent: yeah
23:30 Logic Agent: on that
23:30 Logic Agent: prob better
23:31 Cl9n: yeah thats better
23:31 Logic Agent: good
23:32 Cl9n: 02:58:185 (6,1) - wanna put more spacing here?
23:32 Logic Agent: always
23:33 Logic Agent: mk
23:34 Cl9n: 03:20:341 (1) - wouldnt a spinner be pleasant here?
23:34 Logic Agent: i really like the green break
23:34 Logic Agent: or.. blue break
23:34 Logic Agent: where the scren just stands still for a moment before fading our
23:34 Logic Agent: out*
23:34 Logic Agent: or is it fading in, idr
23:35 Cl9n: 03:32:451 (1,2,3) - this is mapped to the vocals
23:35 Cl9n: 03:34:653 (1,2) - 
23:35 Cl9n: whats that
23:36 Logic Agent: it's supposed to be like
23:36 Logic Agent: decreasing in density
23:36 Logic Agent: (even though theres a bunch of circles next, but that doesnt count)
23:36 Logic Agent: so it goes with the music
23:36 Cl9n: i want more density |:<
23:37 Logic Agent: ok i added a circle
23:37 Cl9n: 03:48:415 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - this was a big ass anti-flow right here
23:37 Cl9n: im not saying to change it
23:37 Cl9n: just wanted to point that out lol
23:37 Logic Agent: yeah
23:37 Logic Agent: the whole last kiai
23:37 Logic Agent: like second half of the last kiai
23:37 Logic Agent: was remapped minutes before you played it
23:37 Logic Agent: need more plays to see how it goes
23:37 Cl9n: wait
23:37 Cl9n: actually
23:38 Cl9n: did you fix that stream as well?
23:38 Logic Agent: what do you mean
23:38 Cl9n: 03:48:896 (6,1) - so much curvature here
23:38 Logic Agent: true
23:38 Logic Agent: moved it out some
23:38 Cl9n: you can see the smooth arch of the stream
23:39 Cl9n: ok
23:39 Cl9n: alrighty
23:39 Cl9n: thats the end of my selfish mod
23:39 Cl9n: :3
23:39 Logic Agent: lmao
23:39 Logic Agent: post for kds ;o
23:40 Logic Agent: farming sp lo

Nostalgic_old

597 posts

Joined January 2013

Nostalgic_old 8 years ago

M4M here!

[Together]

ar+2?
00:23:644 (3,4) - Blanket them? Because you did it here 00:25:846 (3,4)
00:41:809 (1) - Remove NC?
01:16:213 (2,3,4) - Do you intend to align them? If yes then they need a fix
02:37:681 (2,4) - Stack them? Sometimes you stack the sliderend but sometimes you don't, which is a bit confusing to me.
03:42:772 (2,4) - ^
03:38:093 Cancel the break? It's not that long and the jump coming up is scary
03:53:644 (2,4) - Stack?
04:07:956 (2,3) - ^

As an alternate player, your maps are love

[Insane]

00:39:882 Add a circle here? It really feels undermapped
00:40:158 ^
00:44:561 (3,4) - nazi but blanket each other's sliderends?
01:39:607 (3,5) - ctrl g?
01:40:846 (4,5,6) - ^ to make the jumps consistent
02:31:213 (3,4) - Blanket them?
02:45:662 (3) - Make it slightly bend?
03:13:736 (1,2,3,4) - // 03:14:837 (1,2,3,4) - their ds difference is not obvious enough
03:38:093 Cancel the break?

Nice map nice song and nice bg. Good luck!

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Nostalgic wrote:
M4M here!

[Together]
ar+2? considered it, but never actually changed. might increase if someone else thinks the same
00:23:644 (3,4) - Blanket them? Because you did it here 00:25:846 (3,4) naw i like differentiation in the patterns, and also blanketing here would cause a tiny overlap with one of the sliders that I didn't want
00:41:809 (1) - Remove NC? lmao whoops
01:16:213 (2,3,4) - Do you intend to align them? If yes then they need a fix not entirely sure what you meant, but I brought the 4 down a bit so the distance from the slider is the same for both circles
02:37:681 (2,4) - Stack them? Sometimes you stack the sliderend but sometimes you don't, which is a bit confusing to me. again, whoops lmao
03:42:772 (2,4) - ^ don't really like stacking slider heads too much, because it can cause confusion for reading and this map is supposed to be very simple. I do it sometimes, but would prefer not to here
03:38:093 Cancel the break? It's not that long and the jump coming up is scary eh it makes the two circles with the drums feel much more powerful, and also it kinda cute with the whispering. maybe though
03:53:644 (2,4) - Stack? okay finnne
04:07:956 (2,3) - ^
As an alternate player, your maps are love

[Insane]
00:39:882 Add a circle here? It really feels undermapped changed the rhythm here
00:40:158 ^
00:44:561 (3,4) - nazi but blanket each other's sliderends? don't really want them that close together
01:39:607 (3,5) - ctrl g? nice
01:40:846 (4,5,6) - ^ to make the jumps consistent ya
02:31:213 (3,4) - Blanket them? for some reason i don't like how these look when you blanket them lol
02:45:662 (3) - Make it slightly bend? oh but of course
03:13:736 (1,2,3,4) - // 03:14:837 (1,2,3,4) - their ds difference is not obvious enough true made it bigger
03:38:093 Cancel the break? same explanation as the topdiff

Nice map nice song and nice bg. Good luck! thanks for the mod!

William K

704 posts

Joined January 2013

William K 8 years ago

Hi~ from my queue.

Good map as always...

[Insane]

00:42:084 (2) - 00:54:745 (5) - How about CTRL+G-ing these two sliders? I see there're much more chaning direction sliders, 00:45:662 (4,5) - . Not only that, 00:50:616 (1,2) - you did direction change here, but not at 00:41:809 (1,2) - which has a similar music.
01:29:699 (3,4,1) - This felt a bit tricky in spacing, 01:29:974 (4,1) - and 01:29:699 (3,4) - has a similar spacing, but different time gaps. And before this, you didn't make any stops, 1/1 gaps. So it's a bit hard to notice. It's different with the others you made at 01:31:901 (3,4,1) - 01:34:103 (3,4,1) - , they're much more noticeable than 01:29:699 (3,4,1) - . Consider fixing 01:29:699 (3,4,1) - .
01:33:415 (6) - Isn't this note softer than 01:33:139 (4) - ? But why did you space it bigger than 01:33:139 (4) - ? I'd recommend https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6761627 so that it's similar to 01:33:139 (4) - . It also gives 01:33:552 (1) - more emphasize on cymbals.
02:26:121 (4) - How about having this note NC-ed? I don't think it's a combo of 02:25:295 (1,2,3) - which are sliders. And it looks nicer imo.
02:41:259 (3,4,5) - I don't think this works here, it's also your first time making this kind of jump at this diff. Consider changing this one, 01:25:295 (3,4,5) - doing it like your first kiai is better imo.
03:56:671 (1,2,3) - Looks crowded, making it spaced bigger?

That's all from me, GL!

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

William K wrote:
Hi~ from my queue.

Good map as always... ;o

[Insane]

00:42:084 (2) - 00:54:745 (5) - How about CTRL+G-ing these two sliders? I see there're much more chaning direction sliders, 00:45:662 (4,5) - . Not only that, 00:50:616 (1,2) - you did direction change here, but not at 00:41:809 (1,2) - which has a similar music. did the second one but no the first one, jump distance paired with direction of the first one was kind of overwhelming.
01:29:699 (3,4,1) - This felt a bit tricky in spacing, 01:29:974 (4,1) - and 01:29:699 (3,4) - has a similar spacing, but different time gaps. And before this, you didn't make any stops, 1/1 gaps. So it's a bit hard to notice. It's different with the others you made at 01:31:901 (3,4,1) - 01:34:103 (3,4,1) - , they're much more noticeable than 01:29:699 (3,4,1) - . Consider fixing 01:29:699 (3,4,1) - . agreed, moved it over to the left more
01:33:415 (6) - Isn't this note softer than 01:33:139 (4) - ? But why did you space it bigger than 01:33:139 (4) - ? I'd recommend https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6761627 so that it's similar to 01:33:139 (4) - . It also gives 01:33:552 (1) - more emphasize on cymbals. sure
02:26:121 (4) - How about having this note NC-ed? I don't think it's a combo of 02:25:295 (1,2,3) - which are sliders. And it looks nicer imo. having multiple nc's takes away from the "1 2" of the drums with bigger spacing imo
02:41:259 (3,4,5) - I don't think this works here, it's also your first time making this kind of jump at this diff. Consider changing this one, 01:25:295 (3,4,5) - doing it like your first kiai is better imo. i think it's alright but i moved the 4 over some. maybe it's better now.
03:56:671 (1,2,3) - Looks crowded, making it spaced bigger?a bit bigger now

That's all from me, GL! thanks!

Log Off Now

957 posts

Joined May 2014

Log Off Now 8 years ago

m4m

[Easy]

00:27:497 (1,3) - blanket (slider middle on 3)
00:43:460 (2,3) - blanket (slider end on 3)
00:47:864 (2) - I would prefer it if this was placed around x156 y212 so there is less of a sharp flow here when it isn't needed
00:58:873 (4) - The middle of this slider should definitely be clickable imo, and the way you hitsounded this diff makes it sound like it should be aswell, maybe try something like this?
01:11:534 (1,2) - blanket (slider middle on 2 to x282 y79)
01:29:148 (1) - 01:33:552 (1) - holy shiz these sliders are so well done
01:57:772 (1) - Maybe try this slider shape for a better aesthetic
04:12:084 (1) - I would turn this into 1/1 then circle since the last note is pretty loud in the song

[Hard]

SV maybe a little high? idk

00:50:892 (2,3) - fix these parallels
00:53:368 (2,3,1,2) - haven't i seen this exact thing before? *you may wanna add a bit of variation, even if its just a little bit to keep it interesting*
01:04:929 (2) - I would NC this because the time between clicks changes after this note
01:09:332 (1,2) - Not normally a fan of double repeats but these seem to be ok (just pointing it out idk why)
01:26:947 (1,2,3) - I would try and make these perfectly linear because atm they flow a little weird
01:43:460 (2) - Same comment as 01:04:929 (2) -
02:10:983 (1) - I would actually move this to the right instead of to the left since the music is changing, so why not make a little change to the flow, maybe stack it on 02:09:194 (2,3) - ?
03:12:910 (2,3) - fix blanket slider end
03:16:763 (2) - fix stack

sorry its not much, rly nice map!

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Log Off Now wrote:

m4m

[Easy]

00:27:497 (1,3) - blanket (slider middle on 3)
00:43:460 (2,3) - blanket (slider end on 3) these look fine to me (as in i literally couldn't find what was wrong with them)
00:47:864 (2) - I would prefer it if this was placed around x156 y212 so there is less of a sharp flow here when it isn't needed curved the slider before the circle to make the flow less sharp in appearance, however I think it's alright as it is, nothing too sharp
00:58:873 (4) - The middle of this slider should definitely be clickable imo, and the way you hitsounded this diff makes it sound like it should be aswell, maybe try something like this? hr88 part
01:11:534 (1,2) - blanket (slider middle on 2 to x282 y79) alrigh
01:29:148 (1) - 01:33:552 (1) - holy shiz these sliders are so well done hr88 is a god
01:57:772 (1) - Maybe try this slider shape for a better aesthetic don't talk to me or my slightly curved son again
04:12:084 (1) - I would turn this into 1/1 then circle since the last note is pretty loud in the song didn't want to do that because this is supposed to be reeeeeeally easy, and the "large" spacing combined with the gap in music could make this difficult for a new player. in other words no funny business, just a really incredibly easy map for new players, no reason to make it "harder" imo

[Hard]

SV maybe a little high? idk think it's fine for bpm, and there's a gradual increase from the normal to the next insane so not gonna touch it

00:50:892 (2,3) - fix these parallels ~~i'm going to fight you~~fixed
00:53:368 (2,3,1,2) - haven't i seen this exact thing before? *you may wanna add a bit of variation, even if its just a little bit to keep it interesting* ok my sliders are gay now
01:04:929 (2) - I would NC this because the time between clicks changes after this note eh if someone else points it out i will but i don't wanna nc spam
01:09:332 (1,2) - Not normally a fan of double repeats but these seem to be ok (just pointing it out idk why) ya the drums are doing some weird stuff that would be hard to represent and be different from the last part (Because i dont wanna use triples/ bigger spacing) so my only option is doing more 1/2 sliders... so why not repeat them
01:26:947 (1,2,3) - I would try and make these perfectly linear because atm they flow a little weird that woudl mess up my stack after the pause and im not tryna move everything around. i think it's pretty okay as it is
01:43:460 (2) - Same comment as 01:04:929 (2) - agree
02:10:983 (1) - I would actually move this to the right instead of to the left since the music is changing, so why not make a little change to the flow, maybe stack it on 02:09:194 (2,3) - ? ok
03:12:910 (2,3) - fix blanket slider end oo
03:16:763 (2) - fix stack ok

sorry its not much, rly nice map! thanks

Arphimigon

1,664 posts

Joined December 2014

Arphimigon 8 years ago

Nice music kds pls

deantuesday

12 posts

Joined October 2013

deantuesday 8 years ago

To start, I like the map. Well done. I have very few changes I would recommend for any of the difficulties. This post will focus on difficulty: Insane (5.13)

00:41:259 - would put a circle here. I know you're zeroed in on the drums, but you have nothing to represent when the singer starts singing and hes the actual focus of the music.
01:10:983 (1,1) - I'm always a fan of this style. But completely silence the back half of the first slider. the extra click is still audible at 70% volume and out of place. also if it is silent, you can even shorten it by 1/4 of a note so people won't miss the back half of the slider trying to move on to the next one because the jump is pretty ham compared to others.
01:51:717 (2) - vocals are the most prominent noise. Consider adding a note on the previous half note and moving this note back half of a note.(1-2 and and 3)
02:01:075 (1) - getting rid of the back half of this slider and leaving it as a circle will emphasize the singer pausing. just feels better.
02:22:818 (4) - get rid of circle.
02:26:947 (1) - same slider as 1:10. silence back half, can make shorter by 1/4 note if silenced
03:12:359 (4) - lengthen this and get rid of 5
03:35:616 (4,1) - randomly long jump compared to rest of the section
03:48:415 (4) - get rid of 4 and start the slider (currently note 5 of the combo) where 4 is. then add 2 more bounces to the slider

deantuesday

12 posts

Joined October 2013

deantuesday 8 years ago

This post will focus on difficulty: Thzz's Extra

The only issue I have with this version of the song, is the lack of silencing the back half of sliders that need to be silenced. I know how much of pain it is to add in all the necessary timing points, but without it we can all hear random clicks where they shouldn't be. Heres a slider list to look at.

01:06:855 (1) -
01:19:515 (3) -
01:40:158 (1) -
01:42:635 (2) -
01:44:011 (1) -
02:09:882 (1) -
02:35:479 (3) -
02:58:598 (2) -
02:59:974 (1) -
03:51:992 (5) -
03:59:424 (3) -
03:59:699 (4) -
04:11:259 (2) -

Other notes:
02:19:240 (2) - this section i would have followed the vocals. (3-4-1 2 and and and) with '-' meaning connected by slider. You followed the vocals on the verse immediately after this section, I don't see why they were ignored here.
03:53:231 (1) - get rid of note after this slider and lengthen it. no need for anything extra

Other than those 3 things, this version is my favorite.

deantuesday

12 posts

Joined October 2013

deantuesday 8 years ago

Difficulty: Together
I take back what I said in my previous post this is my favorite difficulty

01:02:595 (5) - 01:03:008 (6) - just feels empty, possibly connect with a slow slider
03:34:659 (1) - This part feels awkward. emphasize vocals here

Also I wanted to say for your future maps:
01:28:466 (4) - These sections of the song are great.
01:52:824 (1) - Utilizing slider speed in this way is great.
Don't be afraid to utilize volume changes like you do speed changes.

Good luck getting ranked, I'd say this map deserves it.
PM if you ever need something else looked at.

Natsu

8,087 posts

Joined September 2012

Natsu 8 years ago

IRC

2016-12-20 20:47 Logic Agent: hi i don't mean to bug you if you're too busy, but i was wondering if i could get your opinion on a map
2016-12-20 20:51 Natsu: sure
2016-12-20 20:51 Logic Agent: cool, thanks
2016-12-20 20:51 Logic Agent: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1148249 Amatsuki - Chiisana Koi no Uta [Together]]
2016-12-20 20:51 Logic Agent: the topdiff is the one i just wanted general thoughts on
2016-12-20 20:59 Natsu: k wait
2016-12-20 21:00 Logic Agent: no problem take your time
2016-12-20 21:01 Natsu: together is a collab diff?
2016-12-20 21:01 Logic Agent: no it's just like fitting with the song lyrics
2016-12-20 21:02 Logic Agent: guess it could kinda seem that way with the name lol
2016-12-20 21:02 Natsu: those combo colors are so hard to see with this bg o.o
2016-12-20 21:02 Logic Agent: true they're not that bad with my skin
2016-12-20 21:02 Logic Agent: but i've had other people say they're hard to see
2016-12-20 21:02 Logic Agent: just haven't fixed them yet
2016-12-20 21:02 Logic Agent: good reminder though
2016-12-20 21:03 Natsu: the slider velocity at the intro feels so fast o.o
2016-12-20 21:03 Logic Agent: well it's a tad bit slower than the rest since there's no drums yet but the bpm is super high so i think too slow would be unfitting
2016-12-20 21:03 Logic Agent: especially because there's parts of the song that are /actually/ slow that i use slow svs on
2016-12-20 21:04 Natsu: atleast it should be different from the part with drums
2016-12-20 21:04 Logic Agent: so you think even more slow
2016-12-20 21:04 Natsu: I'd use like ,70
2016-12-20 21:05 Logic Agent: ok i might mess around with it
2016-12-20 21:05 Natsu: then ,80 here 00:31:901 (1) -  
2016-12-20 21:05 Natsu: so we can feel the speed change at 00:41:809 (1) - 
2016-12-20 21:05 Logic Agent: i agree actually
2016-12-20 21:05 Logic Agent: i'll slow the beginning down some
2016-12-20 21:06 Natsu: 01:04:928 (2) -  this needs a NC, also I don't think they belongs to the same pattern 01:03:827 (1,2,3) -  I'd move 01:04:928 (2,3) -  away
2016-12-20 21:07 Logic Agent: well i think that keeping them same makes 01:06:029 (1) - feel very strong
2016-12-20 21:07 Logic Agent: but i see what you mean
2016-12-20 21:07 Natsu: 01:19:240 (1,2,3,4,1) -  I don't feel this 1/4s fit the song, 1/2 would fit the music better
2016-12-20 21:08 Natsu: even this beat 01:19:653 (4) -  is not that relevant 
2016-12-20 21:08 Logic Agent: i do see where you're coming from with that but like
2016-12-20 21:09 Logic Agent: there's a drumroll in the background which yeah it's the background and it's not super strong
2016-12-20 21:09 Logic Agent: but i liked the concept of mapping that part out and making this part seem very strong before the pause with the vocals
2016-12-20 21:09 Natsu: 01:27:153 (3) -  this also I don't think the triplet fits the music
2016-12-20 21:09 Natsu: 01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) -  oh this jumps feels alot better
2016-12-20 21:10 Natsu: btw if you want to keep the first 1/4s then add some hitsounds, so they sound similar to them ^
2016-12-20 21:10 Logic Agent: so you think the problem is the execution in the first one?
2016-12-20 21:10 Natsu: i mean when i hear the song, I can't hear them at 100% and feels overmapped and not fitting
2016-12-20 21:10 Natsu: if you play with the hitsounds u can do something cool there tho
2016-12-20 21:11 Logic Agent: i'll see if i can come up with something
2016-12-20 21:11 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/420677 I did something similar here
2016-12-20 21:11 Natsu: the drumrolls were so low, so I just added a sound that make them fit the actual song
2016-12-20 21:11 Logic Agent: i'll check it out
2016-12-20 21:11 Logic Agent: and see if i can draw ideas from it
2016-12-20 21:12 Logic Agent: good call
2016-12-20 21:12 Natsu: 02:05:755 (2,3) -  the spacing is so close
2016-12-20 21:12 Logic Agent: true i'll make it bigger
2016-12-20 21:14 Natsu: 02:43:116 (3) -  you are adding them as emphasis for 02:43:185 (4) -  ?
2016-12-20 21:14 Natsu: tbh I'd prefer a 1/2 rhythm o.o
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: yeah it's like
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: sort of like a leadin kinda
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: to the 1/4 rhythms
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: like it kinda helps it feel sped up
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: cause it's the middle and then the end of the kiai
2016-12-20 21:14 Logic Agent: i think it gives it more power
2016-12-20 21:15 Logic Agent: also just like raw circle jumps into kick sliders feels awkward imo
2016-12-20 21:15 Logic Agent: cause it's like there's nothing leading you into the kick sliders it's just very sudden
2016-12-20 21:15 Logic Agent: hope that makes sense lol
2016-12-20 21:15 Natsu: 03:30:800 (1,1) -  this can surprising, since the music is slow and the 1/4 jumps don't fit much 
2016-12-20 21:16 Logic Agent: are you talking about
2016-12-20 21:16 Logic Agent: just that one or all 03:31:350 (1,2,3,4) -  these as well?
2016-12-20 21:16 Logic Agent: because i did 03:31:350 (1,2,3,4) - things like this to kinda be a very easy and steady paced filled between parts where i emphasize vocals
2016-12-20 21:17 Natsu: mmm mostly because you are going to a slow section and the 1/4 feels a bit troll there imo
2016-12-20 21:17 Natsu: I'd just space them less
2016-12-20 21:17 Natsu: 04:12:084 (2) -  NC?
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: oh whoops
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: yeah maybe i'll change that
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: the 1/4 part
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: thanks for looking at it i hope it wasn't too bad :p
2016-12-20 21:18 Natsu: are you sure about the ar btw?
2016-12-20 21:18 Natsu: I'd use 9,5 here
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: you think higher?
2016-12-20 21:18 Natsu: but maybe ask to some players
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: yeah i've had some requests for higher
2016-12-20 21:18 Logic Agent: musty said ar felt low too
2016-12-20 21:19 Logic Agent: paired with high bpm
2016-12-20 21:19 Logic Agent: i'll bump it up
2016-12-20 21:19 Natsu: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/454627 idk i used 9,5 here and worked really well
2016-12-20 21:19 Natsu: and ur map have more jumps and higher bpm O.O
2016-12-20 21:19 Logic Agent: okay yeah i'll boost the ar
2016-12-20 21:20 Natsu: btw the map is really solid ;o
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: cool thanks :P
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: i just need more mods before i use ticket with xinely
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: lol
2016-12-20 21:20 Natsu: I tho I'd find a jumpy yolo map, but is really well structured
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: hey i appreciate the kind words :D
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: hopefully i can find others who feel the same
2016-12-20 21:20 Logic Agent: also if you wouldn't mind posting on thread so i can kd you/ count this as a mod from someone who knows their stuff
2016-12-20 21:21 Logic Agent: "mod"
2016-12-20 21:21 Natsu: sure thing

[ Lilu ]

168 posts

Joined January 2015

[ Lilu ] 8 years ago

hoi this is from your mod queue

Together

00:47:726 (2,4) - Overlap here is kind of messy looking. maybe just move the 2 over a little

00:58:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - the spacing on this jumps is all over the place. 00:59:148 (6,7) - should be swapped. i think that's all that needs top be fixed.

01:02:038 (3,5) - the way these overlap is uneven, i dont know if its intentional or not, but if the 5 was moved to flow outwards from the 4 it would look and play better imo.

01:10:020 (7,8,9,1) - the odd spacing between these is kinda awkward to play. maybe even them out a little, also the way the green 1 overlaps the yellow 6 is a bit messy imo.

01:10:983 (1,1) - maybe reduce the spacing between these

01:15:249 (3,4,1) - this section has bad flow imo. maybe change the way the sliders flow so they flow into eachother rather than away from eachother. https://puu.sh/sXFnB/f7f2276f4b.jpg

01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl g to make it flow better? its jarring to play when you have downward motion accompanied by upward sliders.

01:29:148 (1) - make this apart of the stream? https://puu.sh/sXFvu/47a36573dd.jpg

02:26:947 (1,1) - reduce spacing between these as well maybe?

02:31:213 (3,4) - bad flow again, maybe just ctrl g to fix

02:45:043 (8,1) - make it apart of the stream too?

03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - theres the same issue here with the vertical movement, going down, but the sliders are moving up.

03:52:681 (2,3) - Flow is off here

03:57:772 (1) - starting to think maybe you want your sliders like this, i think its awkward to play, since there isnt a larger space between the end of the stream and the slider, so it would make sense to have the slider at the end of the stream, rather than having to jump to it.

04:04:791 (2,4) - Overlap looks kinda eh imo

thzz's Extra

00:25:020 (3) - this might be better with ctrl g

00:44:837 (4,1) - the flow here is kinda bad imo, maybe if you used ctrl g on the yellow 4?

01:09:882 (6,7) - this is just an idea but i think these two would be better if they were switched. that way the counter clockwise circular motion of the jump pattern is maintained throughout.

01:19:103 (8) - at the end of this triangle jump, the flow suggests you jump to right, but the next note 01:19:240 (1) - is to the left. it feels a bit counter intuitive to play. https://puu.sh/sXGNY/2e3ed10b30.jpg

01:21:855 (3,4) - The end of 3 faces away from the 4, its not too much of a problem, just a little hiccup in the flow.

01:23:644 (1,2) - here too.

01:33:827 (2,3) - The flow here is interrupted a bit, but i think its not too bad

02:07:956 (3,4) - the 3 points away from the 4 and he 4 overlaps, 02:08:231 (4,6) - the 6 kind messily, imo.

Mir

osu! Alumni

2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 8 years ago

M4M so I don't forget after I get back from holiday lo.

[General]

Battle's Normal has a different video offset. Every other difficulty is -50, but his is 0.
bg.jpg seems to be unused.
soft-hitclap2.wav could have a delay of over 5ms. Check this in audacity and fix it or something (cuz I suck at that stuff.)
For the difficulties I'm modding (Hard and the lower Insane) your combos are very short. Considering the bpm and the density you mapped I would suggest using an NC every two downbeats rather than every one.
Agenthzz's Insane plays better with AR 9.2 considering how dense the map is, there's a lot of objects on the screen with AR 9.

[]

Hard

[

Hard]

01:18:002 (4,1) - This jump seems really far compared to what you've been doing so far. Maybe nerf it a bit?
01:18:139 (1,1) - This overlap of the slider body on the reverse could cause misreading. Especially because the head of the second slider appears first while the reverse is still visible. I recommend moving it somewhere else. Like https://mir.s-ul.eu/V95EKl5m maybe.
01:41:671 (2,3) - This overlap makes this pattern seem very sudden, since it's only visible after 01:40:983 (3) - disappears completely. I recommend not overlapping these for the sake of readability.
01:44:286 - Do you want to skip this? You could make 01:44:011 (3) - a 1/2 slider to capture that vocal sound. Maybe slow SV and then bump it up at 01:44:561 (1) - to emphasize the strong note too?
01:42:084 (4,1) - Spaced noticeably more than other kiais. Could be fine due to slider leniency though, up to you.
01:50:616 (3) - Ends on a really strong note, try this?: https://mir.s-ul.eu/PwdaI4Dd
1. NC whatever ends up on 01:50:616 - if you intend to keep the 1 downbeat NC thing you have going here.
2. 01:50:616 (3,4) - This timeline gap is larger yet the spacing for 01:51:717 (1,2) - right after is the same but the gap in the timeline is shorter.
01:53:919 (3) - Skips a really noticeable kick. Maybe a reverse slider here to capture that? This actually happens a lot before, so it could be intentional. If it is, ignore it.
02:09:332 (3) - This vocal is on a slider end and is much stronger than the drums here. Maybe something like this? https://mir.s-ul.eu/q9KsM4gu
02:25:295 (1,2) - The flow from 1 into 2 is bad here imo because 1 ends on the opposite side to 2, which plays really awkward.
02:32:314 (3) - Why are the strongest drum beats on the reverse and tail? Try this?: https://mir.s-ul.eu/3phUQsEP You do this rhythm for a lot of the kiais and I don't really see why because there's nothing strong on the slider head to click, but on the reverse and tail there is? I only noticed it now, but it's also done at 01:16:350 (3) - and similar places. I feel like this rhythm could have been chosen a bit better.

Nothing else I noticed.

Agenthzz's Insane

[

Insane]

00:40:777 (1) - HNNNG. This rhythm choice is HNGSDKsladgadg. This spinner ends on such a strong note I literally cringed when I heard it. Please make 00:41:809 - an active note. Tbh just remove the spinner completely, it's just... so out of place imo.
00:43:323 (2) - No sound here, overmapped. 00:44:424 (2) - same, and it continues for this entire section. I think you should remove this because it isn't the kiai and in the kiai you can have more rhythm density, but here it's just not fitting to overmap these notes at all.
00:50:616 (1) - You've got to be kidding me, just make this a straight slider for the love of god. (just kidding it's not a huge deal)
01:17:038 (1,2) - This is really big jump for not being a strong note.
01:19:929 (2,1) - Stacking this would have more impact and also make this space easier to read. Applies for similar cases later on.
1. 01:19:929 (2) - Is unsnapped by a tiny bit.
2. If you do take the suggestion, you should probably nerf 01:19:791 (1,2) - a bit more since that would become a huge jump.
01:35:204 (3) - Are you missing a kick here?
02:08:506 (4) - Why suddenly skip the kick on 02:08:644?
02:39:607 (1,3) - :thinking: Same angle maybe?
03:24:057 (2,3) - This spacing confused me when playing, I think you should space 3 a bit more so it's clear that there's a 1/1 gap here.
03:25:846 (1,2) and 03:28:048 (1,2) - have the same spacing but different timeline gap. Space the latter out more to prevent misreading.
03:41:259 (1,4) - Nice stack. *runs*
03:45:387 (4,1) - This is the only time you ever stack like this, any reason why? Before you never did this. Also this flow 03:45:112 (3,4) - is linear compared to the rest of the map where it's more angular.
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - Introducing kicksliders of this speed and this spacing so late into the map is unfair. I didn't expect kicks at all since they never appeared in previous kiais, and I broke due to this. I recommend doing something else here or adding kicks in previous kiais so these aren't such a surprise.
03:51:992 (4) - Really strong note on this downbeat here. Are you sure you want to keep this and no do slider + circle instead?
03:53:781 (3,4) - Strong note on the slider end makes this part play weird. Try a reverse or swapping this rhythm altogether to circle then slider.

Good mapset really. I like it, but the rhythm choice in general doesn't sit right with me. I feel a lot of it can be done differently to prioritize sounds better. A recurring theme is having a reverse where the head is on a weak sound but the reverse tick and the end have stronger sounds. I pointed a few out in the Hard but it's recurring. Similar poor rhythm choice exists in the Insane, but not as frequently as in the Hard.

Good luck!~

SnowNiNo_

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

2,108 posts

Joined April 2013

SnowNiNo_ 8 years ago

M4M

[Together]

01:48:827 - the finish hs sound pretty werid here, maybe lower the volume or remove the hs
02:59:424 (2,3,1) - structure here seem pretty weird lol, hoe about just follow the vocal
03:18:139 - ill replace this with a note since is a pretty strong sound, using sliderend to express isnt a good choice
04:03:827 (4,3) - lul
04:12:084 (1,2,1) - same
pretty nice diff xd

[thzz's Extra]

01:11:465 (2) - 02:27:428 (2) - this is pretty unnecessary imo, since there are no sound to support the note
01:19:928 (2,1) - i suggest to stack here, since the spacing would confused player
01:29:561 - 01:30:112 - the gap here seems rly inconsistent to ur structure, since u didnt use the same structure after
01:39:332 (3) - NC for consistent
01:48:827 (1,2) - same as Together's diff
02:35:892 (2,1) - 03:39:745 (2,1) - yap same thing here
03:20:341 (1) - this should get more emphasized
03:55:570 - structure here should be like this imo, can express much better to the music and the cymbol sound
04:07:956 (3) - NC for consistent

[Insane]

01:37:681 (5,6,1) - linear flow :<, try this
01:51:580 - structure here should be like this, the current structure us just rly weird lol like ur following instrument at 01:51:717 (2,1) - and vocal 01:52:130 (2) -, and the spacing of 1/1 gap is smaller then the 1/2s, just no xd
01:57:772 (1,2,3) - meh
02:52:543 (4) - 04:04:928 (3,4) - should have larger spacing for emphasis
03:48:277 (3,4) - flow is better if ctrl + g
04:06:855 (2,3,4) - hmm try this?

GL, i rly like the top diff xd

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Nino

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
M4M

[Together]
01:48:827 - the finish hs sound pretty werid here, maybe lower the volume or remove the hs not my hitsounds don't wanna touch unless thzz has better option
02:59:424 (2,3,1) - structure here seem pretty weird lol, hoe about just follow the vocal
03:18:139 - ill replace this with a note since is a pretty strong sound, using sliderend to express isnt a good choice probably gonna change this but not right this second
04:03:827 (4,3) - lul
04:12:084 (1,2,1) - same
pretty nice diff xd
[Insane]
01:37:681 (5,6,1) - linear flow :<, try this
01:51:580 - structure here should be like this, the current structure us just rly weird lol like ur following instrument at 01:51:717 (2,1) - and vocal 01:52:130 (2) -, and the spacing of 1/1 gap is smaller then the 1/2s, just no xd
01:57:772 (1,2,3) - meh
02:52:543 (4) - 04:04:928 (3,4) - should have larger spacing for emphasis
03:48:277 (3,4) - flow is better if ctrl + g
04:06:855 (2,3,4) - hmm try this?
GL, i rly like the top diff xd thanks ;o

Mir

Mir wrote:
M4M so I don't forget after I get back from holiday lo.

[General]
Battle's Normal has a different video offset. Every other difficulty is -50, but his is 0. nice catch, thanks
bg.jpg seems to be unused. you have old dl i think
soft-hitclap2.wav could have a delay of over 5ms. Check this in audacity and fix it or something (cuz I suck at that stuff.) will ask thzz but i think it's okay
For the difficulties I'm modding (Hard and the lower Insane) your combos are very short. Considering the bpm and the density you mapped I would suggest using an NC every two downbeats rather than every one. if someone else thinks the same i'll change, though i love small combos
Agenthzz's Insane plays better with AR 9.2 considering how dense the map is, there's a lot of objects on the screen with AR 9. don't wanna use high ar on lowdiffs

[Hard][ Hard]
01:18:002 (4,1) - This jump seems really far compared to what you've been doing so far. Maybe nerf it a bit?
01:18:139 (1,1) - This overlap of the slider body on the reverse could cause misreading. Especially because the head of the second slider appears first while the reverse is still visible. I recommend moving it somewhere else. Like https://mir.s-ul.eu/V95EKl5m maybe.
01:41:671 (2,3) - This overlap makes this pattern seem very sudden, since it's only visible after 01:40:983 (3) - disappears completely. I recommend not overlapping these for the sake of readability.
01:44:286 - Do you want to skip this? You could make 01:44:011 (3) - a 1/2 slider to capture that vocal sound. Maybe slow SV and then bump it up at 01:44:561 (1) - to emphasize the strong note too?
01:42:084 (4,1) - Spaced noticeably more than other kiais. Could be fine due to slider leniency though, up to you.
01:50:616 (3) - Ends on a really strong note, try this?: https://mir.s-ul.eu/PwdaI4Dd
NC whatever ends up on 01:50:616 - if you intend to keep the 1 downbeat NC thing you have going here.
01:50:616 (3,4) - This timeline gap is larger yet the spacing for 01:51:717 (1,2) - right after is the same but the gap in the timeline is shorter.
01:53:919 (3) - Skips a really noticeable kick. Maybe a reverse slider here to capture that? This actually happens a lot before, so it could be intentional. If it is, ignore it. intentional, i had to sacrifice a lot of clickable drum stuff in this diff because when you try to make all the powerful stuff clickable your hard diff ends up at 4 stars.
02:09:332 (3) - This vocal is on a slider end and is much stronger than the drums here. Maybe something like this? https://mir.s-ul.eu/q9KsM4gu i like how this sounds to lead into the drum part
02:25:295 (1,2) - The flow from 1 into 2 is bad here imo because 1 ends on the opposite side to 2, which plays really awkward.
02:32:314 (3) - Why are the strongest drum beats on the reverse and tail? Try this?: https://mir.s-ul.eu/3phUQsEP You do this rhythm for a lot of the kiais and I don't really see why because there's nothing strong on the slider head to click, but on the reverse and tail there is? I only noticed it now, but it's also done at 01:16:350 (3) - and similar places. I feel like this rhythm could have been chosen a bit better. the reason i had to do some shitty rhythms like this is because originally there were a loooooot more clickable drum sounds in this diff, but with those kind of rhythms combined with the high bpm and the spiky nature of the song, the difficulty was way too high for what would be considered a traditional hard. it essentialy played like a shitty light insane or something, and it was kinda gross. if someone can point out a better way or some suggestions rhythmically, i might mess around with them but i think that these rhythms fit the job well enough.
Nothing else I noticed.
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[Agenthzz's Insane][ Insane]
00:40:777 (1) - HNNNG. This rhythm choice is HNGSDKsladgadg. This spinner ends on such a strong note I literally cringed when I heard it. Please make 00:41:809 - an active note. Tbh just remove the spinner completely, it's just... so out of place imo.
00:43:323 (2) - No sound here, overmapped. 00:44:424 (2) - same, and it continues for this entire section. I think you should remove this because it isn't the kiai and in the kiai you can have more rhythm density, but here it's just not fitting to overmap these notes at all.
00:50:616 (1) - You've got to be kidding me, just make this a straight slider for the love of god. (just kidding it's not a huge deal)
01:17:038 (1,2) - This is really big jump for not being a strong note.
01:19:929 (2,1) - Stacking this would have more impact and also make this space easier to read. Applies for similar cases later on.
01:19:929 (2) - Is unsnapped by a tiny bit.
If you do take the suggestion, you should probably nerf 01:19:791 (1,2) - a bit more since that would become a huge jump.
01:35:204 (3) - Are you missing a kick here?
02:08:506 (4) - Why suddenly skip the kick on 02:08:644? fix
02:39:607 (1,3) - :thinking: Same angle maybe? i like how it looks, im weird
03:24:057 (2,3) - This spacing confused me when playing, I think you should space 3 a bit more so it's clear that there's a 1/1 gap here. fix
03:25:846 (1,2) and 03:28:048 (1,2) - have the same spacing but different timeline gap. Space the latter out more to prevent misreading. fix
03:41:259 (1,4) - Nice stack. *runs* fixfixfixfix
03:45:387 (4,1) - This is the only time you ever stack like this, any reason why? Before you never did this. Also this flow 03:45:112 (3,4) - is linear compared to the rest of the map where it's more angular.
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - Introducing kicksliders of this speed and this spacing so late into the map is unfair. I didn't expect kicks at all since they never appeared in previous kiais, and I broke due to this. I recommend doing something else here or adding kicks in previous kiais so these aren't such a surprise.
03:51:992 (4) - Really strong note on this downbeat here. Are you sure you want to keep this and no do slider + circle instead?
03:53:781 (3,4) - Strong note on the slider end makes this part play weird. Try a reverse or swapping this rhythm altogether to circle then slider.

everything else in the collab diff isn't my part

Good mapset really. I like it, but the rhythm choice in general doesn't sit right with me. I feel a lot of it can be done differently to prioritize sounds better. A recurring theme is having a reverse where the head is on a weak sound but the reverse tick and the end have stronger sounds. I pointed a few out in the Hard but it's recurring. Similar poor rhythm choice exists in the Insane, but not as frequently as in the Hard. yeah there were some thoughtful sacrifices made in the rhythm department but ultimately i think the diffs hit their mark for the target audience without being overwhelming due to the bpm

Good luck!~ thaaaaaank

Lilu

[ Lilu ] wrote:
hoi this is from your mod queue

Together

00:47:726 (2,4) - Overlap here is kind of messy looking. maybe just move the 2 over a little

00:58:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - the spacing on this jumps is all over the place. 00:59:148 (6,7) - should be swapped. i think that's all that needs top be fixed. fix

01:02:038 (3,5) - the way these overlap is uneven, i dont know if its intentional or not, but if the 5 was moved to flow outwards from the 4 it would look and play better imo. moved the circle out more

01:10:020 (7,8,9,1) - the odd spacing between these is kinda awkward to play. maybe even them out a little, also the way the green 1 overlaps the yellow 6 is a bit messy imo. made the jumps play better

01:10:983 (1,1) - maybe reduce the spacing between these done

01:15:249 (3,4,1) - this section has bad flow imo. maybe change the way the sliders flow so they flow into eachother rather than away from eachother. https://puu.sh/sXFnB/f7f2276f4b.jpg this kind of flow is used to emphasize the vocals

01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) - ctrl g to make it flow better? its jarring to play when you have downward motion accompanied by upward sliders.

01:29:148 (1) - make this apart of the stream? https://puu.sh/sXFvu/47a36573dd.jpg don't plan on doing this, made the stream a lil jump on purpose

02:26:947 (1,1) - reduce spacing between these as well maybe?

02:31:213 (3,4) - bad flow again, maybe just ctrl g to fix same as earlier

02:45:043 (8,1) - make it apart of the stream too?

03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - theres the same issue here with the vertical movement, going down, but the sliders are moving up.

03:52:681 (2,3) - Flow is off here

03:57:772 (1) - starting to think maybe you want your sliders like this, i think its awkward to play, since there isnt a larger space between the end of the stream and the slider, so it would make sense to have the slider at the end of the stream, rather than having to jump to it.

04:04:791 (2,4) - Overlap looks kinda eh imo

dean

deantuesday wrote:
To start, I like the map. Well done. I have very few changes I would recommend for any of the difficulties. This post will focus on difficulty: Insane (5.13)

00:41:259 - would put a circle here. I know you're zeroed in on the drums, but you have nothing to represent when the singer starts singing and hes the actual focus of the music. don't think those vocals are important enough to represent with a circle, and it feels much stronger when you click with the drum alone
01:10:983 (1,1) - I'm always a fan of this style. But completely silence the back half of the first slider. the extra click is still audible at 70% volume and out of place. also if it is silent, you can even shorten it by 1/4 of a note so people won't miss the back half of the slider trying to move on to the next one because the jump is pretty ham compared to others. i think it sounds fine, also i didn't mess with hitsounds or volumes so
01:51:717 (2) - vocals are the most prominent noise. Consider adding a note on the previous half note and moving this note back half of a note.(1-2 and and 3) changes
02:01:075 (1) - getting rid of the back half of this slider and leaving it as a circle will emphasize the singer pausing. just feels better. not trying to let a pause happen here, this section immediately feeds into the drums
02:22:818 (4) - get rid of circle. but there's a cymbal crash here
02:26:947 (1) - same slider as 1:10. silence back half, can make shorter by 1/4 note if silenced same as earlier
03:12:359 (4) - lengthen this and get rid of 5 i like clicking on the piano
03:35:616 (4,1) - randomly long jump compared to rest of the section fix
03:48:415 (4) - get rid of 4 and start the slider (currently note 5 of the combo) where 4 is. then add 2 more bounces to the slider that'd be untrue to the music though

Difficulty: Together
I take back what I said in my previous post this is my favorite difficulty lol thanks

01:02:595 (5) - 01:03:008 (6) - just feels empty, possibly connect with a slow slider
03:34:659 (1) - This part feels awkward. emphasize vocals here true

Also I wanted to say for your future maps:
01:28:466 (4) - These sections of the song are great.
01:52:824 (1) - Utilizing slider speed in this way is great.
Don't be afraid to utilize volume changes like you do speed changes.

Good luck getting ranked, I'd say this map deserves it.
PM if you ever need something else looked at. thanks!

thanks for mods everyone, colors are standard and i've also remapped a couple parts and tweaked a few others to improve it further.

Synergyze

29 posts

Joined March 2016

Synergyze 8 years ago

Hello! I’ve gathered a bit of interest in this map, and I wanted to mod it. Here are a few things I’ve noticed.

Insane: (*May apply with other diffs)

01:30:249 (1) – You missed a minor sound at 01:30:387, I suggest making the sliderend land on the red tick to follow the minor sound better. This is the same for 01:31:350 and 01:34:653. I’m pretty sure you know where to do this in the following choruses as well ^^
01:44:561 – I like this break, though is there a reason for 01:46:213 (3, 4), this 01:48:415 (2, 3), and 01:50:616 (3) to be different? Also you ignore a sound at 01:51:029. (related to this problem)I suggest putting a slider there and change these three points so that they’re the same, since they follow the same rhythm. *In most of these, a kick is being ignored, which I personally don’t like ignoring.
01:53:919 (3) – Make this slider shorter, it’s the same thing with the first one. It’s weird since you do it right for the ones following that. (this is if you’re following percussion, but even so, this isn’t supposed to be ignored completely.) Same goes for 02:02:726 (3) and 02:08:781 (1)
03:13:736 – I like what you did with this. Good Job!

General Tips:

Even if a percussion sound is minor, if it’s still noticeable, you probably shouldn’t ignore it. (though these are just my suggestions ^^’) Slowing down by 50% should help you. I kinda noticed it, though you’re free to omit this, since it may be inaudible to most anyway. I’m just really alert with this kind of thing.

Agenthzz’s Insane:
1. 00:40:777 – Just a suggestion: Make this spinner land on 00:41:396, put a circle in the next white tick, then add a short slider on 00:41:809. The rhythm you followed previously was pretty odd and ignored a few important sounds.
2. Like Logic’s Insane, Minor sounds on Slider Ends = Win (kinda tired typing this one)
3. 01:53:300 (3)– The blue tick has no sound. Though I understand if this is intentional to prioritize the following strong sound, in which case, I commend you for that. Very evident in 03:48:552 (1, 2, 3). Personally, 04:06:029 (3, 4)should also follow this, since it leads up to a stronger point in the song, and this is towards the end of the song as well.

Really not sure how to mod the lower and higher diffs though.

This is my first time modding as well, so I apologize if this isn’t all too great. Overall, this is a pretty impressive mapset. Really fun as well! ~Syn

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Synergyze wrote:
Hello! I’ve gathered a bit of interest in this map, and I wanted to mod it. Here are a few things I’ve noticed.

Insane: (*May apply with other diffs)
01:30:249 (1) – You missed a minor sound at 01:30:387, I suggest making the sliderend land on the red tick to follow the minor sound better. This is the same for 01:31:350 and 01:34:653. I’m pretty sure you know where to do this in the following choruses as well ^^ I see what you're saying, but the reason I used the 1/1 slider there is more for the feel of this "calmer" part before the second mini kiai after it. I wanted the rhythm to be less dense and easier to play so that the part after it felt all the much stronger. While yes it could technically be more true to the music, for this particular difficulty I chose to approach this section in a different way rhythmically so that I didn't have to do some big jumps to make the "hora" part more powerful.
01:44:561 – I like this break, though is there a reason for 01:46:213 (3, 4), this 01:48:415 (2, 3), and 01:50:616 (3) to be different? Also you ignore a sound at 01:51:029. (related to this problem)I suggest putting a slider there and change these three points so that they’re the same, since they follow the same rhythm. *In most of these, a kick is being ignored, which I personally don’t like ignoring. So to answer your first question, the reason they're different is because I just wanted a bit of variation in this section to keep it very calm and simple. If I just spammed 1/1 sliders the entire time it'd be kinda boring, so I did a 1/2 slider part so it would be more interesting and fitting with the vocals. If I did too many I think the feeling of the section would change and would be faster than I wanted. The reason I ignored the beat 01:51:029 here is because I wanted to emphasize the vocals very much, and then rush directly into the drums 01:51:580 here to make the ending of the section feel more powerful in contrast to the small pause after it.
01:53:919 (3) – Make this slider shorter, it’s the same thing with the first one. It’s weird since you do it right for the ones following that. (this is if you’re following percussion, but even so, this isn’t supposed to be ignored completely.) Same goes for 02:02:726 (3) and 02:08:781 (1) The reason I used 1/1 sliders in those places is for consistency purposes with the first one. Technically yes, I could ctrl + g this rhythm and it would work, but I think this way is better to make this new section start off noticeably more dense than the last one. From then on, I used this same flipped rhythm in the middle of this verse, and then at the very end where you timestamped it.
03:13:736 – I like what you did with this. Good Job! thanks!
General Tips:
Even if a percussion sound is minor, if it’s still noticeable, you probably shouldn’t ignore it. (though these are just my suggestions ^^’) Slowing down by 50% should help you. I kinda noticed it, though you’re free to omit this, since it may be inaudible to most anyway. I’m just really alert with this kind of thing.

Agenthzz’s Insane:
00:40:777 – Just a suggestion: Make this spinner land on 00:41:396, put a circle in the next white tick, then add a short slider on 00:41:809. The rhythm you followed previously was pretty odd and ignored a few important sounds. not my part of the collab ;o
Like Logic’s Insane, Minor sounds on Slider Ends = Win (kinda tired typing this one)
01:53:300 (3)– The blue tick has no sound. Though I understand if this is intentional to prioritize the following strong sound, in which case, I commend you for that. Very evident in 03:48:552 (1, 2, 3). Personally, 04:06:029 (3, 4)should also follow this, since it leads up to a stronger point in the song, and this is towards the end of the song as well. Yeah the triplet thing was for emphasis. I think it'd be weird to do it in the place you linked because it's in the middle of a combo and just seems less fitting to me. I would have to do it in all the places with this kind of musical change, and I'm not sure if I think it's fitting enough.
Really not sure how to mod the lower and higher diffs though.

This is my first time modding as well, so I apologize if this isn’t all too great. Overall, this is a pretty impressive mapset. Really fun as well! ~Syn

the mod was very good and thoughtful, and I'm very impressed for it to be your first one! Though I didn't really change anything, healthy discussion where mappers choices may be unclear is great!

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 8 years ago

deantuesday wrote:
This post will focus on difficulty: Thzz's Extra

The only issue I have with this version of the song, is the lack of silencing the back half of sliders that need to be silenced. I know how much of pain it is to add in all the necessary timing points, but without it we can all hear random clicks where they shouldn't be. Heres a slider list to look at.

01:06:855 (1) -
01:19:515 (3) -
01:40:158 (1) -
01:42:635 (2) -
01:44:011 (1) -
02:09:882 (1) -
02:35:479 (3) -
02:58:598 (2) -
02:59:974 (1) -
03:51:992 (5) -
03:59:424 (3) -
03:59:699 (4) -
04:11:259 (2) -
applied some. i use 3/4 slider to make variation of rhythm. by making it silent, we couldn't feel such variation imo.

Other notes:
02:19:240 (2) - this section i would have followed the vocals. (3-4-1 2 and and and) with '-' meaning connected by slider. You followed the vocals on the verse immediately after this section, I don't see why they were ignored here. this bass sound is very characteristic i feel. i keep it.
03:53:231 (1) - get rid of note after this slider and lengthen it. no need for anything extra right, fix

Other than those 3 things, this version is my favorite. thank you <3

[ Lilu ] wrote:
thzz's Extra

00:25:020 (3) - this might be better with ctrl g good~

00:44:837 (4,1) - the flow here is kinda bad imo, maybe if you used ctrl g on the yellow 4? okay

01:09:882 (6,7) - this is just an idea but i think these two would be better if they were switched. that way the counter clockwise circular motion of the jump pattern is maintained throughout. i strongly like sharp angle flow. keep.

01:19:103 (8) - at the end of this triangle jump, the flow suggests you jump to right, but the next note 01:19:240 (1) - is to the left. it feels a bit counter intuitive to play. https://puu.sh/sXGNY/2e3ed10b30.jpg angle of 01:18:965 (7,8,1) - is sharp enough i think~

01:21:855 (3,4) - The end of 3 faces away from the 4, its not too much of a problem, just a little hiccup in the flow. i can understand what you feel though, allow me to keep it for now plz.

01:23:644 (1,2) - here too. ^

01:33:827 (2,3) - The flow here is interrupted a bit, but i think its not too bad agree with you, changed

02:07:956 (3,4) - the 3 points away from the 4 and he 4 overlaps, 02:08:231 (4,6) - the 6 kind messily, imo. i like such an overlapping shape~

SnowNiNo_ wrote:
[thzz's Extra]
01:11:465 (2) - 02:27:428 (2) - this is pretty unnecessary imo, since there are no sound to support the note the guitar
01:19:928 (2,1) - i suggest to stack here, since the spacing would confused player will consider with others' opinion. i believe i was able to make rule of placement.
01:29:561 - 01:30:112 - the gap here seems rly inconsistent to ur structure, since u didnt use the same structure after i took such rhythm to make variation. there's same thing at 01:29:974 (3,1) - , so it's fine i think.
01:39:332 (3) - NC for consistent consistent with where? i can take consistent with 02:55:295 (2) -
01:48:827 (1,2) - same as Together's diff we should use this sound with constant frequency imo~ retention for now.
02:35:892 (2,1) - 03:39:745 (2,1) - yap same thing here same
03:20:341 (1) - this should get more emphasized retention plz, a lyrics structure
03:55:570 - structure here should be like this imo, can express much better to the music and the cymbol sound hmm...? i don't think so.
04:07:956 (3) - NC for consistent same

Mir wrote:
[General]
soft-hitclap2.wav could have a delay of over 5ms. Check this in audacity and fix it or something (cuz I suck at that stuff.) fix!

Agenthzz's Insane
[ Insane]
00:40:777 (1) - HNNNG. This rhythm choice is HNGSDKsladgadg. This spinner ends on such a strong note I literally cringed when I heard it. Please make 00:41:809 - an active note. Tbh just remove the spinner completely, it's just... so out of place imo. this spinner can express the change of atmosphere of the song imo.
00:43:323 (2) - No sound here, overmapped. 00:44:424 (2) - same, and it continues for this entire section. I think you should remove this because it isn't the kiai and in the kiai you can have more rhythm density, but here it's just not fitting to overmap these notes at all. the guitar
00:50:616 (1) - You've got to be kidding me, just make this a straight slider for the love of god. (just kidding it's not a huge deal) i often avoided straight slider, sorry~
01:17:038 (1,2) - This is really big jump for not being a strong note. fix
01:19:929 (2,1) - Stacking this would have more impact and also make this space easier to read. Applies for similar cases later on. sorry i like current one. probably, we'll discuss about it.
01:19:929 (2) - Is unsnapped by a tiny bit.
If you do take the suggestion, you should probably nerf 01:19:791 (1,2) - a bit more since that would become a huge jump.
01:35:204 (3) - Are you missing a kick here? nope. kick sound is on 01:35:341 -
02:08:506 (4) - Why suddenly skip the kick on 02:08:644?
02:39:607 (1,3) - :thinking: Same angle maybe?
03:24:057 (2,3) - This spacing confused me when playing, I think you should space 3 a bit more so it's clear that there's a 1/1 gap here.
03:25:846 (1,2) and 03:28:048 (1,2) - have the same spacing but different timeline gap. Space the latter out more to prevent misreading.
03:41:259 (1,4) - Nice stack. *runs*
03:45:387 (4,1) - This is the only time you ever stack like this, any reason why? Before you never did this. Also this flow 03:45:112 (3,4) - is linear compared to the rest of the map where it's more angular. to make variation. but fixed.
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - Introducing kicksliders of this speed and this spacing so late into the map is unfair. I didn't expect kicks at all since they never appeared in previous kiais, and I broke due to this. I recommend doing something else here or adding kicks in previous kiais so these aren't such a surprise. players should be surprised here imo just because the song is so.
03:51:992 (4) - Really strong note on this downbeat here. Are you sure you want to keep this and no do slider + circle instead? okay
03:53:781 (3,4) - Strong note on the slider end makes this part play weird. Try a reverse or swapping this rhythm altogether to circle then slider.

Good mapset really. I like it, but the rhythm choice in general doesn't sit right with me. I feel a lot of it can be done differently to prioritize sounds better. A recurring theme is having a reverse where the head is on a weak sound but the reverse tick and the end have stronger sounds. I pointed a few out in the Hard but it's recurring. Similar poor rhythm choice exists in the Insane, but not as frequently as in the Hard. i like variable rhythm. what a bothersome issue

Good luck!~

Synergyze wrote:
General Tips:
Even if a percussion sound is minor, if it’s still noticeable, you probably shouldn’t ignore it. (though these are just my suggestions ^^’) Slowing down by 50% should help you. I kinda noticed it, though you’re free to omit this, since it may be inaudible to most anyway. I’m just really alert with this kind of thing.
i'll fix them. probably it's because of hitsounds copier~

Agenthzz’s Insane:
00:40:777 – Just a suggestion: Make this spinner land on 00:41:396, put a circle in the next white tick, then add a short slider on 00:41:809. The rhythm you followed previously was pretty odd and ignored a few important sounds. spinner's end can express the sound much enough for me.
Like Logic’s Insane, Minor sounds on Slider Ends = Win (kinda tired typing this one)
01:53:300 (3)– The blue tick has no sound. Though I understand if this is intentional to prioritize the following strong sound, in which case, I commend you for that. Very evident in 03:48:552 (1, 2, 3). Personally, 04:06:029 (3, 4)should also follow this, since it leads up to a stronger point in the song, and this is towards the end of the song as well.
Really not sure how to mod the lower and higher diffs though.

This is my first time modding as well, so I apologize if this isn’t all too great. Overall, this is a pretty impressive mapset. Really fun as well! ~Syn

thank you all!!

@Agent
thzz's Extra : http://puu.sh/t0iq1/522d40a558.osu
Agenthzz's Insane : http://puu.sh/t0iqx/c4ddf5eeae.osu
soft-hitclap2.wav : http://puu.sh/t0iDF/9bb24df0b0.wav

O-Moei

O-Moei 8 years ago

Hi !

General
Battle's AR 4 feels enough

Agenthzz's
I suggest fill the vocal here 02:00:937 - , at least equal with 00:49:378 (4) - would play better. Or it's a another collab, eh ? xd

00:47:864 (3,4) - Can give this a bit more spacing

02:09:607 (4,4) - Stack miss ?
01:24:332 (3,2) - ^

Insane
03:13:185 (1) - Remove NC ?

03:45:112 (3,4) - You can lift them up a bit

This cool. Good luck !

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

O-Moei wrote:
Hi !

General
Battle's AR 4 feels enough

Agenthzz's
I suggest fill the vocal here 02:00:937 - , at least equal with 00:49:378 (4) - would play better. Or it's a another collab, eh ? xd

00:47:864 (3,4) - Can give this a bit more spacing

02:09:607 (4,4) - Stack miss ?
01:24:332 (3,2) - ^

Insane
03:13:185 (1) - Remove NC ?

03:45:112 (3,4) - You can lift them up a bit
This cool. Good luck !

applied all except one thing cause it's not my part in the collab. thanks!

Doormat

2,050 posts

Joined September 2013

Doormat 8 years ago

m4m here sorry it's kind of late zzz

[Rocket Agent]

diff looks good, just one aesthetic thing. at 01:28:048 (4,1) - the (4)'s curve looks like it should be blanketing the (1) but then it isn't so it just looks a bit weird imo s:

[Battle]

only a couple aesthetic things, feel free to ignore all if you want
01:04:928 (1,1) - 04:12:084 (1) - i don't think these NCs are necessary but i can see the aesthetic reasoning for it, so up to you if you want to keep these
01:08:781 (4,1) - 04:07:405 (3,4) - blankets xd doesn't even look like you're trying here lool
01:21:442 (3) - not sure if you care but the red pivot isn't really centred properly. only pointing this out since 01:23:644 (3) - is centred properly

[Hard]

00:39:607 (1,2) - i'd try Ctrl + G the rhythm here, there's a pretty emphasized note on the red tick 00:39:745 - that matches the emphasized note on 00:40:020 (3) -
01:01:626 (1) - just an idea here, but why not try two 1/1 sliders instead of a 1/1 repeat? red tick has a pretty emphasized guitar note, after all
SPOILER
01:40:570 (2) - i'm not sure placing the most emphasized note here on a repeat is the best idea, but it works i guess
01:47:038 (2,3) - spacing inconsistency? i'm not really sure since it looks like there's an increase in spacing due to the clap, but it looks off compared to your other patterns 01:44:561 (1,2,3) - and 01:50:066 (1,2,3) -
02:20:341 (2,3) - another spacing inconsistency? looks off compared to 02:21:992 (1,2,3) -

[Agenthzz]

02:22:405 (2,3) - spacing seems a bit excessive here; why the jump? there's no special emphasis on the (3) so it seems unwarranted and feels a bit out of place
03:26:809 (1) - hmm shouldn't this be following the guitars like 03:35:754 (1) - ? just curious why you chose to follow vocals for the first one
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - feels like a pretty unfair difficulty spike considering how there are no kick sliders up until this point. given that it's high bpm too it might come off as unexpected, especially for an Insane. maybe just try a buzz repeat slider?
SPOILER

[Insane]

you could rename this to Another if you want, but Insane works just fine
00:40:158 (3,4,5) - these all have the same emphasis, so why is the (5) so spaced out? doesn't feel right s:
01:44:286 - no note here for "na"? could add a circle here and stack with 01:44:011 (3) - as an example
SPOILER
03:17:038 (1,2) - kind of expected these to be circles like 03:13:736 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - since they're all part of the same phrasing and have the same drum emphasis
03:56:259 (4,5,6) - kind of expected (4)->(5) to have more spacing than (5)->(6) because of the finish

[thzz]

00:58:873 (1,2) - 02:10:433 (3,4) - feels a bit overmapped, there are no sounds on the blue ticks so making these 1/4 repeats feels out of place. i get that it's trying to map to the background noise but i think you should stick to the main instrument sounds
03:36:304 (3,4) - sudden increase in spacing for vocal emphasis makes this feel out of place since 03:32:176 (1) - 03:34:378 (1) - didn't do the same thing. i'd try sticking to same 1.4x ds for (3)->(4)

[Together]

i'm not sure how i feel about the overmaps at 01:19:240 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:28:048 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , 01:37:405 (1,2,3,4) - , etc.. there aren't really any audible beats on the blue ticks. you can argue that the chimes in the background or the rolling drum effect might justify the use of a stream/kick sliders here, but i don't think those sounds are strong enough to warrant such overmaps. that being said, you might be able to get away with using those kick sliders. obviously applies to other choruses as well. the stream at 03:48:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - is fine though
03:17:038 (1,2) - same comment that i posted in Insane applies to here as well
other than the overmapped streams/kick sliders in each of the choruses i don't really see any major problems with this diff

neat set, good luck with rank!

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Doormat wrote:
m4m here sorry it's kind of late zzz

[Rocket]
diff looks good, just one aesthetic thing. at 01:28:048 (4,1) - the (4)'s curve looks like it should be blanketing the (1) but then it isn't so it just looks a bit weird imo s:
this was hr88s part but since it's such an easy fix i'll just do it for him :p

[Hard]
00:39:607 (1,2) - i'd try Ctrl + G the rhythm here, there's a pretty emphasized note on the red tick 00:39:745 - that matches the emphasized note on 00:40:020 (3) - agree
01:01:626 (1) - just an idea here, but why not try two 1/1 sliders instead of a 1/1 repeat? red tick has a pretty emphasized guitar note, after all agree
SPOILER
01:40:570 (2) - i'm not sure placing the most emphasized note here on a repeat is the best idea, but it works i guess yeah i was just trying to do something different near the end of this section, because it's very repetitive and wanted it to feel like it was winding down thus the reverse slider. however i might change it if someone else agrees
01:47:038 (2,3) - spacing inconsistency? i'm not really sure since it looks like there's an increase in spacing due to the clap, but it looks off compared to your other patterns 01:44:561 (1,2,3) - and 01:50:066 (1,2,3) - was messing around with an idea but forgot to put the 3 back, fixed.
02:20:341 (2,3) - another spacing inconsistency? looks off compared to 02:21:992 (1,2,3) - they're actually all 1.0 ds but because of visual distance i changed some things
[Agenthzz]
02:22:405 (2,3) - spacing seems a bit excessive here; why the jump? there's no special emphasis on the (3) so it seems unwarranted and feels a bit out of place fair enough, changed
03:26:809 (1) - hmm shouldn't this be following the guitars like 03:35:754 (1) - ? just curious why you chose to follow vocals for the first one sorta hard for me to explain why but it just sounds better to me because of the way the lyrics and the guitar are on two different pages leading up to this point following either one super closely would sound untrue to the song. I tried to feed into the guitar with the next section by ncing the slider and then doing circles with the guitar, but if someone has a better suggestion i'm all ears
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - feels like a pretty unfair difficulty spike considering how there are no kick sliders up until this point. given that it's high bpm too it might come off as unexpected. maybe just try a buzz repeat slider?
SPOILER
[/img]http://puu.sh/t29pa/4d5e14d0dc.png[/img]
[Insane]
you could rename this to Another if you want, but Insane works just fine probably gonna do this cause i don't wanna call the other a "collab light inane"
00:40:158 (3,4,5) - these all have the same emphasis, so why is the (5) so spaced out? doesn't feel right s: the noise that the guitar makes here sounds different to me, and i wanted to give the end of the section a bit more power
01:44:286 - no note here for "na"? could add a circle here and stack with 01:44:011 (3) - as an example okay, did this for now but might come up with something different later
SPOILER
03:17:038 (1,2) - kind of expected these to be circles like 03:13:736 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - since they're all part of the same phrasing and have the same drum emphasis i wanted to do something different at the end and i think the single circle at the end feels stronger if it comes after two sliders.. we'll see though
03:56:259 (4,5,6) - kind of expected (4)->(5) to have more spacing than (5)->(6) because of the finish
buffed

[thzz]
00:58:873 (1,2) - 02:10:433 (3,4) - feels a bit overmapped, there are no sounds on the blue ticks so making these 1/4 repeats feels out of place. i get that it's trying to map to the background noise but i think you should stick to the main instrument sounds
03:36:304 (3,4) - sudden increase in spacing for vocal emphasis makes this feel out of place since 03:32:176 (1) - 03:34:378 (1) - didn't do the same thing. i'd try sticking to same 1.4x ds for (3)->(4)
[Together]
i'm not sure how i feel about the overmaps at 01:19:240 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:28:048 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - , 01:37:405 (1,2,3,4) - , etc.. there aren't really any audible beats on the blue ticks. you can argue that the chimes in the background or the rolling drum effect might justify the use of a stream/kick sliders here, but i don't think those sounds are strong enough to warrant such overmaps. that being said, you might be able to get away with using those kick sliders. obviously applies to other choruses as well. the stream at 03:48:552 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1) - is fine though what a fun color purple is. anyways I know these parts might be a lil suspect but i wanted the middle and end of the kiais to be identifiable and the obvious hard parts of the sections. i truly believe i hear a drumroll in the middle of every kiai that is obviously much stronger in the last one that justfies these kicksliders. so in my opinion i don't think these sections are overmapped. they might be a little overdone, but that was intentional to give this difficulty more power in these areas and to emphasize some things in the song that don't get noticed in the lower diffs.
03:17:038 (1,2) - same comment that i posted in Insane applies to here as well same thing here, wanted to do something different for the end of the section
other than the overmapped streams/kick sliders in each of the choruses i don't really see any major problems with this diff
neat set, good luck with rank! thanks doormat!

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 8 years ago

fixed all but red node thing cuz it doesn't rly matter lol

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oh and I kept the ncs cuz I like the aesthetic

Yukiyo

425 posts

Joined June 2014

Yukiyo 8 years ago

m4m stuffz
If any of you want an in depths blanket mod call me :V

Rocket Agent's Beginner

00:24:745 (2,3) - could improve blanket a bit

00:58:873 (4,1) - ^
01:33:552 (1,2) - ^
01:37:405 (2,1) - ^
01:33:552 (1,1) - I don't know if this overlap might be a bit counterintuitive to easy players.
01:44:011 (2,1) - Same for this. Don't stack them on reverses to that, not in easies at least ;_;
02:28:598 (2,1) - hope this is not supposed to be blanketing
02:36:304 (1,2,1) - center the cirlce please
advise: check your blankets x.x

Battle's Normal

00:27:222 (4,1) - blanket
00:28:323 (2,3) - ^
Not going to mention any more blankets x.x check them
Nice Normal!

Hard

00:23:093 (1,2,3) - I recommend this ->http://puu.sh/t2vZJ/fbc18f52b7.jpg as the blanket distance and the distance between the sliders are th same and such they give better visual appealing.
00:52:543 (3,2) - don't make them touch

01:01:626 (1,2,3) - rhythm changes but visuals are almost the same, could lead to players thinking they are 1/1 away from each other
01:02:726 (1,2) - UGH blanket (also check blankets throughout map.
01:51:717 (2,3) - sudden change in rhythm without really chaning visuals again. http://puu.sh/t2wfK/4da1a8e236.jpg also recommending this rhythm as it should be more natural as to hitting the desired beats in the song.
02:10:983 (1) - dunno if hiding it is that good? maybe http://puu.sh/t2wk0/3cd4ff3d1e.jpg ?
Overall messy but acceptable style :v

Agenthzz's Insane

First Agenthzz's Insane needs to be Agenthzz' Insane by grammar :V
Seems fine otherwise lo

Another

00:30:112 - stress is on this. recommendation -> http://puu.sh/t2x9n/4e9530af88.jpg
01:21:442 (1,2) - pls.
01:24:057 (3,4) - are they supposed to be off?
03:48:552 (5,1) - Ugh, for a 1/4 gap they seem really far away from each other. Do something like this at least http://puu.sh/t2xwR/8f97ec6e7f.jpg ,_;
decent diff, nothing big to say really.

thzz' Extra..... V:

Together (cuz me is lazy)

Ohh boi 6.6* doesnt feel like one
besides your style which I don't really like, I can say this is nicely mapped etc. bla bla
Sorry I'm being lazy again D:

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 8 years ago

I fixed what you pointed out, there's no point in going over and doing things that doesn't affect gameplay at all

osu file format v14

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sheela

2,651 posts

Joined October 2011

sheela 8 years ago

Hi!

[General]

You can add Song of a Small Love in the tags, as this is the English name of the song.
I think the offsets of the timing and the video need to be shifted by +10 ms. For example, on 01:51:717 -, the drum beat sounded a little late than the tick.

[Rocket Agent's Beginner]

00:59:424 (4,1,2,1) - Something went wrong with this part, since the spacing is not regular and the rhythm is weirdly implemented.
01:11:534 (1,2) - I hope this is not intended. The distance is larger than the regular distance used throughout the map.
03:08:781 (1) - I would remove this slider to simplify the 1/1 rhythm since all of the map is using 2/1 rhythm. In addition majority of the objects are following the piano, mainly 03:07:130 (1,2) - and 03:10:433 (1,2,3) -, in this slow section, so because of the addition of this slider that is following the vocals, it makes the rhythm inconsistent and weird to hear since no piano sound is played on 03:09:882 (2) -. To remedy this, I suggest you move the slider 03:08:781 (1) - to the next downbeat 03:09:332 -, and delete the hitcircle 03:09:882 (2) -.
03:10:433 (1,2,3) - The pattern looks fine visually, but the spacing is too similar to the spacing for 2/1 rhythm like 03:12:359 (3,1) -, so I recommend you to try another tactic in order to not take the risk. I have a suggestion for the rhythm, but sadly you have to sacrifice your neat pattern:
Rhythm

Nice difficulty. I especially like the sliderart because you would sharp-curve the slider when the vocal changes tonality.

[Battle's Normal]

01:51:167 (1) - Probably unstacking this slider would help to read the new rhythm made by 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - easier for the newbies? Main reason is that the stack is used on simple rhythms where objects would just hit the white ticks, meanwhile 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - are hitting the red ticks instead. Removing the stack would break the consistent "stack pattern" and notify the player that you need to read it in other way in addition with the new combo.
02:05:479 (4,5) - A blanket pattern would look neater.

Neat and clean difficulty.

[Hard]

01:04:928 (2,3) - The little jump doesn't feel right during this slow part and after when 01:03:827 (1,2) - are distinctly following the piano with a smaller distance in-between. In my opinion it should just be deleted, since you started the part 01:03:827 - by following the piano. It would sound better when you keep that consistency until the next section of the music.
01:06:029 (1,2) - I think the spacing is too big to reach to the triplet, I even had a little difficulty to do so. Maximum 2.0x is what I recommend.
02:22:543 (3,4) - Same as above.
01:07:130 (1,2,3) (mainly 01:07:130 (1,2) -) - The spacing should resemble to 02:23:093 (1,2,3) - because a bigger spacing would emphasize the crashes played consecutively.
01:09:882 (3,4,1,2) - Rather exchange the spacing of 01:09:882 (3,4) - with the spacing of 01:10:433 (1,2) -, since there is nothing that could be emphasized during the sliders than the drums played during the two hitcircles.
01:53:093 (2) - Probably not noticeable in gameplay, but you can move this hitcircle to x:332 y:257 to make the spacing 01:52:818 (1,2,1) - even.
02:10:983 (1) - How about you move it on the right of the previous slider, to not get overlapped and make it cramped?
02:35:754 (1,2) - This looks as if there was no gap in the rhythm, so it looks like a 1/2 rhythm. To avoid that confusion, you should increase the distance like you did to 01:19:791 (1,2) -.
03:12:910 (2) - Probably it needs a new combo to clarify the changing rhythm compared to 03:09:332 (1,2) - for example due to the almost identical spacing.
03:19:515 (2) - This also needs to have a new combo because the rhythm changed again.
03:41:259 (1,2) - I've never seen a sudden big jump done during a music measure in other choruses since it is usually done after a measure. So I suggest you reduce the spacing to keep that consistency.
04:00:800 (3,1) - I think this is too far to reach slider (1), when like 03:57:222 (3,1) - 03:58:598 (4,1) - and 04:03:002 (4,1) - have smaller distances.
04:04:791 (2) - I don't understand the sudden inconsistent spacing between 04:04:378 (1,2) -. There's nothing to emphasize.

[Agenthzz's Insane]

00:24:470 (2,3) - How about a lower spacing like 2.50x instead? 3.0x feels a bit too much and your other patterns like 00:23:369 (4,5) - and 00:25:570 (2,3) - have smaller distances than 3.0x.
00:38:231 (4) - Same thing here; what you can do is Ctrl + G and move it around x:229 y:227.
00:39:882 (2,3,4,5) - You can try the rhythm in the box to follow the new stand-out sound:
Rhythm
01:16:763 (5,1) - Make the spacing bigger. Currently it plays uncomfortably since the setting for the spacing is like 1.30x. So placing a smaller spacing when it doesn't follow the music halts pretty much the flow.
01:19:379 (2,3) - Might want to do the same as above.
01:46:213 (2,3,1) - I'd rather have the hitcircle (3) in-between (2) and (4). It would flow smoother than having to sudden jump, and avoid being similar to spacings for 1/1 rhythms like 01:44:561 (1,2) -.
02:25:296 (1,2,3) - Same as above.
02:00:937 (4) - Stacking it with 01:59:974 (1) -'s tail would look neat.
03:49:791 (4) - Shorten the slider to the red tick to keep the rhythm consistent with the other choruses?

[Another]

00:58:323 (1,2,3,4,1) - I suggest you increase the spacing, larger than the next part 00:59:424 -, to emphasize the guitar and the part before the slow part kicks in.
01:05:479 (3) - I would delete this hitcircle for the same reason in an earlier point in this mod. Anyhow, because you started the part by following the piano, the part should follow only the piano, to keep the consistency.
01:10:983 (1,1) - Bring them closer together to make the 1/4 look more apparent, like 2.0x?
02:26:947 (1,1) - If you applied the suggestion before, apply it to this too.
01:17:589 (3,4) - You can blanket the pattern by moving (4) at like x:338 y:207 to make it look neat.
03:43:736 (2) - I think it's better to have it moved to the right of the previous slider. That way the flow would play directly and smoothly.

[thzz's Extra]

00:24:745 (2,3) - The flow was a bit difficult and uncomfortable to play. A remedy would be to flip the slider that would point to the right side, due to the order of the flow that goes left to right. So the movement of the player can also go from left to right, which results a comfortable flow.
Pattern
00:25:295 (1,2,3) - This is unnecessarily far to play in a part where only the guitar and vocals are played to be honest. If we compare it with the spacing of the other objects in this part, the maximum spacing is 3.0x. In the end, it breaks the consistency and I recommend you shorten the spacing.
00:39:263 (4) - I don't see why you added a note here when there is no distinct sound here.
01:07:956 (1,2) - You should reduce the spacing here since the setting for big jump is used to emphasized the crash sounds like 01:07:130 (1,2,1) - in this music section. Or is it to follow the pitch of the piano? Either way, it's a bit too early to make a big jump as you want to leave the bigger ones for the section 01:09:332 -, and it just doesn't follow the music correctly in my opinion. 1.90x is recommendable if you follow the piano, otherwise 1.60x would be for the drums.
01:08:781 (1,2) - Same reason as above; a distance like 1.90x should be fine as long it's not too big.
01:09:332 (1,2) - Same reason as above also; the drums that 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hit are not significantly changing, therefore the spacing for 01:09:332 (1,2) - should be lower or similar to 01:09:745 (5,6,7) -.
01:10:158 (8) - Same as above; you can just do Ctrl + G and it should be good.
01:27:222 (2,3) - Nothing needs to be really emphasized during these objects, so I recommend you lower the spacing here too. Also the flow is not comfortable to play, hence a direct flow would be better here. A recommended place is x:286 y:17.
01:41:259 (1,2) - If it was stacked, the player could easily conceive it as a 1/2 rhythm, and not a 1/4 rhythm since the mini distance can confuse players to think that it is one.
01:48:896 (2) - I don't seem to hear much here.
01:53:369 (3) - Add a new combo because a new section in the music starts here.
02:37:130 (6) - To be honest, the overlap looks ugly to me. I'd rather move it to the corner, like as x:482 y:360.

Be careful with the spacing emphasis, but overall it is a nice difficulty.

[Together]

00:39:263 (4) - There is no distinct beat here, making it sound irrelevant.
01:05:479 (2) - Same as your other difficulties.
01:19:240 (1,2,3,4,1) - 02:35:204 (1,2,3,4,1) - So the placement is pretty much the same, with the same flow but one is inverted, in both choruses. Probably this is only me, you can change one of the combo's placement and the flow if you want, to not repeat the part twice. It's just to remove that "déjà vu" feeling and to play something different than playing the same thing twice.
01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) - 02:44:011 (1,2,3,4) - 03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - 03:56:671 (1,2,3,4) - Just a remark I noticed: all of these kicksliders are placed on the right side of the playfield, so none are placed on the left side. So I would suggest you to place half-half on each sides to make the gameplay feel more dispersed. Take note I'm only speaking about the kicksliders in the kiai sections. Others like 01:37:405 (1,2,3,4) - and 02:53:369 (1,2,3,4) - are currently fine.
02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not totally sure if this is your intention, but on 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you seem to slowly slow down the movement, in other words you gradually reduce the distance a bit, and leave 01:10:433 (1,2) - a bigger spacing to emphasize the drums, and I think this is a perfect to follow the music. So for 02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I would like to see the same for it too, since currently the spacing seems to be irregular, as if it was placed out of blue without taking account the spacing.
02:26:396 (1,2) - To change stuff, how about you move (2) to the right side of the previous combo to change the flow? The previous combo would orient more to the left, so you can emphasize even more 02:26:396 (1,2) - by changing the orientation.

Fun difficulty, despite I wouldn't pass because of the kicksliders and streams. I'm honestly surprised I didn't find much in this map. Good job.

That should be it. This mapset looks promising, but I do want you to find another one or two mod for the hardest difficulty (it doesn't have to be for every difficulty) just to ensure the map before it is forwarded. Until then, I'm marking this map with a star!

Battle

2,865 posts

Joined February 2014

Battle 8 years ago

fixed all, for the blanket I made it less of a blanket

osu file format v14

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Mir

osu! Alumni

2,152 posts

Joined July 2016

Mir 8 years ago

no kds, just trying to contribute to the highest diff (and practice my modding of higher diffs too)

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Lots of faux triples and overmapped notes that I see, I get that it's a really high diff but I don't really like overmapping, so if you disagree with a lot of this mod then so be it, but ESPECIALLY in the slow parts there are a lot of circles where there is no sound in the music and it takes away from the feeling of the slow calm section. Eg. 03:05:341 (2) - 03:06:717 (2) - 03:09:194 (3) -
I honestly think that this song has enough in it to be difficulty without adding overmapped notes like you have. That's the MAIN problem I have with this difficulty everything else down here is just some minor nitpicks or notes I REALLY think you should remove.

00:33:002 (1,3) - nice stack nerd.
00:40:020 (3) - Hmm well, I can understand this if you're following the flute thing, but there's a REALLY noticeable drum in the middle of this that you skip. I would suggest a reverse slider, but it's up to you.
01:46:626 (3) - Unnecessary note tbh. Especially in a slow part like this. There's no sound here either.
02:21:855 (4) - This one I really recommend removing because it would give the note after more emphasis due to the pause.
03:13:185 (5) - You could slow this SV to emphasize the guitar coming in. You do it for most of the vocals true, but I think it can fit here too? Maybe? Perhaps?

Logic Agent

483 posts

Joined April 2015

Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

sheela wrote:
Hi!

[General]
You can add Song of a Small Love in the tags, as this is the English name of the song. done
I think the offsets of the timing and the video need to be shifted by +10 ms. For example, on 01:51:717 -, the drum beat sounded a little late than the tick. after discussing with thzz we agreed that the official video is slightly offset from the song, maybe it was some kind of effect they were going for? i'll talk with you about this though
[Rocket Agent's Beginner]
00:59:424 (4,1,2,1) - Something went wrong with this part, since the spacing is not regular and the rhythm is weirdly implemented. honestly I think I screwed something up fixing a blanket at some point and don't know what the hell is supposed to be going on here. I'll ask happyrocket to look at it next time i see him online, as this is his part
01:11:534 (1,2) - I hope this is not intended. The distance is larger than the regular distance used throughout the map. i think i was checking a blanket and forgot to ctrl g back before updating, fixed
03:08:781 (1) - I would remove this slider to simplify the 1/1 rhythm since all of the map is using 2/1 rhythm. In addition majority of the objects are following the piano, mainly 03:07:130 (1,2) - and 03:10:433 (1,2,3) -, in this slow section, so because of the addition of this slider that is following the vocals, it makes the rhythm inconsistent and weird to hear since no piano sound is played on 03:09:882 (2) -. To remedy this, I suggest you move the slider 03:08:781 (1) - to the next downbeat 03:09:332 -, and delete the hitcircle 03:09:882 (2) -. agree, changed this to the suggested rhythm
03:10:433 (1,2,3) - The pattern looks fine visually, but the spacing is too similar to the spacing for 2/1 rhythm like 03:12:359 (3,1) -, so I recommend you to try another tactic in order to not take the risk. I have a suggestion for the rhythm, but sadly you have to sacrifice your neat pattern: again, changed to the rhythm in the screenshot
Rhythm
Nice difficulty. I especially like the sliderart because you would sharp-curve the slider when the vocal changes tonality. you can thank hr88 for that! he did a good job :p

[Battle's Normal]
01:51:167 (1) - Probably unstacking this slider would help to read the new rhythm made by 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - easier for the newbies? Main reason is that the stack is used on simple rhythms where objects would just hit the white ticks, meanwhile 01:51:167 (1,2,3) - are hitting the red ticks instead. Removing the stack would break the consistent "stack pattern" and notify the player that you need to read it in other way in addition with the new combo.
02:05:479 (4,5) - A blanket pattern would look neater.
Neat and clean difficulty.

[Hard]
01:04:928 (2,3) - The little jump doesn't feel right during this slow part and after when 01:03:827 (1,2) - are distinctly following the piano with a smaller distance in-between. In my opinion it should just be deleted, since you started the part 01:03:827 - by following the piano. It would sound better when you keep that consistency until the next section of the music. alright, i wanted to do something out of the norm here but I understand this point of view too, so I deleted the slider
01:06:029 (1,2) - I think the spacing is too big to reach to the triplet, I even had a little difficulty to do so. Maximum 2.0x is what I recommend. moved some stuff over so that the distance from the slider to the triplet is around 1.9 now
02:22:543 (3,4) - Same as above. fixed this one to be about 2.0
01:07:130 (1,2,3) (mainly 01:07:130 (1,2) -) - The spacing should resemble to 02:23:093 (1,2,3) - because a bigger spacing would emphasize the crashes played consecutively. spaced out the first three sliders in this section. I don't think all of them are equal in spacing but the power is definitely higher there compared to when the cymbals stop coming after each other
01:09:882 (3,4,1,2) - Rather exchange the spacing of 01:09:882 (3,4) - with the spacing of 01:10:433 (1,2) -, since there is nothing that could be emphasized during the sliders than the drums played during the two hitcircles. fixed.
01:53:093 (2) - Probably not noticeable in gameplay, but you can move this hitcircle to x:332 y:257 to make the spacing 01:52:818 (1,2,1) - even. sure why not
02:10:983 (1) - How about you move it on the right of the previous slider, to not get overlapped and make it cramped? a few people pointed this out, fixed
02:35:754 (1,2) - This looks as if there was no gap in the rhythm, so it looks like a 1/2 rhythm. To avoid that confusion, you should increase the distance like you did to 01:19:791 (1,2) -. fixed
03:12:910 (2) - Probably it needs a new combo to clarify the changing rhythm compared to 03:09:332 (1,2) - for example due to the almost identical spacing. fixed
03:19:515 (2) - This also needs to have a new combo because the rhythm changed again. fixed
03:41:259 (1,2) - I've never seen a sudden big jump done during a music measure in other choruses since it is usually done after a measure. So I suggest you reduce the spacing to keep that consistency. remapped this bit to fix that
04:00:800 (3,1) - I think this is too far to reach slider (1), when like 03:57:222 (3,1) - 03:58:598 (4,1) - and 04:03:002 (4,1) - have smaller distances. fixed
04:04:791 (2) - I don't understand the sudden inconsistent spacing between 04:04:378 (1,2) -. There's nothing to emphasize.
this must have been a mistake, fixed

[Agenthzz's Insane]
00:24:470 (2,3) - How about a lower spacing like 2.50x instead? 3.0x feels a bit too much and your other patterns like 00:23:369 (4,5) - and 00:25:570 (2,3) - have smaller distances than 3.0x.
00:38:231 (4) - Same thing here; what you can do is Ctrl + G and move it around x:229 y:227.
00:39:882 (2,3,4,5) - You can try the rhythm in the box to follow the new stand-out sound:
Rhythm
01:16:763 (5,1) - Make the spacing bigger. Currently it plays uncomfortably since the setting for the spacing is like 1.30x. So placing a smaller spacing when it doesn't follow the music halts pretty much the flow.
01:19:379 (2,3) - Might want to do the same as above.
01:46:213 (2,3,1) - I'd rather have the hitcircle (3) in-between (2) and (4). It would flow smoother than having to sudden jump, and avoid being similar to spacings for 1/1 rhythms like 01:44:561 (1,2) -. fixed
02:25:296 (1,2,3) - Same as above. fixed
02:00:937 (4) - Stacking it with 01:59:974 (1) -'s tail would look neat. always good to fix stacks~
03:49:791 (4) - Shorten the slider to the red tick to keep the rhythm consistent with the other choruses?

everything else is thzz's part
[Another]
00:58:323 (1,2,3,4,1) - I suggest you increase the spacing, larger than the next part 00:59:424 -, to emphasize the guitar and the part before the slow part kicks in. started out the spacing a bit bigger and had it end closer together to make it feel like it's winding down more
01:05:479 (3) - I would delete this hitcircle for the same reason in an earlier point in this mod. Anyhow, because you started the part by following the piano, the part should follow only the piano, to keep the consistency. fixed
01:10:983 (1,1) - Bring them closer together to make the 1/4 look more apparent, like 2.0x? 2.0 is a bit too close for me, i like how they look when they're separated and i don't think that should be too hard to read considering the difficulty. however i did bring them closer together, about 2.15~
02:26:947 (1,1) - If you applied the suggestion before, apply it to this too. fixed
01:17:589 (3,4) - You can blanket the pattern by moving (4) at like x:338 y:207 to make it look neat. nice
03:43:736 (2) - I think it's better to have it moved to the right of the previous slider. That way the flow would play directly and smoothly. i think i fixed this, but if you have a better placement suggestion just lemme know
[thzz's Extra]
00:24:745 (2,3) - The flow was a bit difficult and uncomfortable to play. A remedy would be to flip the slider that would point to the right side, due to the order of the flow that goes left to right. So the movement of the player can also go from left to right, which results a comfortable flow.
Pattern
00:25:295 (1,2,3) - This is unnecessarily far to play in a part where only the guitar and vocals are played to be honest. If we compare it with the spacing of the other objects in this part, the maximum spacing is 3.0x. In the end, it breaks the consistency and I recommend you shorten the spacing.
00:39:263 (4) - I don't see why you added a note here when there is no distinct sound here.
01:07:956 (1,2) - You should reduce the spacing here since the setting for big jump is used to emphasized the crash sounds like 01:07:130 (1,2,1) - in this music section. Or is it to follow the pitch of the piano? Either way, it's a bit too early to make a big jump as you want to leave the bigger ones for the section 01:09:332 -, and it just doesn't follow the music correctly in my opinion. 1.90x is recommendable if you follow the piano, otherwise 1.60x would be for the drums.
01:08:781 (1,2) - Same reason as above; a distance like 1.90x should be fine as long it's not too big.
01:09:332 (1,2) - Same reason as above also; the drums that 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hit are not significantly changing, therefore the spacing for 01:09:332 (1,2) - should be lower or similar to 01:09:745 (5,6,7) -.
01:10:158 (8) - Same as above; you can just do Ctrl + G and it should be good.
01:27:222 (2,3) - Nothing needs to be really emphasized during these objects, so I recommend you lower the spacing here too. Also the flow is not comfortable to play, hence a direct flow would be better here. A recommended place is x:286 y:17.
01:41:259 (1,2) - If it was stacked, the player could easily conceive it as a 1/2 rhythm, and not a 1/4 rhythm since the mini distance can confuse players to think that it is one.
01:48:896 (2) - I don't seem to hear much here.
01:53:369 (3) - Add a new combo because a new section in the music starts here.
02:37:130 (6) - To be honest, the overlap looks ugly to me. I'd rather move it to the corner, like as x:482 y:360.
Be careful with the spacing emphasis, but overall it is a nice difficulty.

[Together]
00:39:263 (4) - There is no distinct beat here, making it sound irrelevant. while it might not be super strong, there's a small cymbal thing going on in the background here that i liked to map cause it makes the drawn out drums in the section after it feel more distinct
01:05:479 (2) - Same as your other difficulties. fixed
01:19:240 (1,2,3,4,1) - 02:35:204 (1,2,3,4,1) - So the placement is pretty much the same, with the same flow but one is inverted, in both choruses. Probably this is only me, you can change one of the combo's placement and the flow if you want, to not repeat the part twice. It's just to remove that "déjà vu" feeling and to play something different than playing the same thing twice. tried something different here, hope it worked as intended
01:28:048 (1,2,3,4) - 02:44:011 (1,2,3,4) - 03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - 03:56:671 (1,2,3,4) - Just a remark I noticed: all of these kicksliders are placed on the right side of the playfield, so none are placed on the left side. So I would suggest you to place half-half on each sides to make the gameplay feel more dispersed. Take note I'm only speaking about the kicksliders in the kiai sections. Others like 01:37:405 (1,2,3,4) - and 02:53:369 (1,2,3,4) - are currently fine. 02:44:011 - 03:56:671 - both of these now start somewhere different, gonna get some playtests to make sure everything still feels alright
02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Not totally sure if this is your intention, but on 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - you seem to slowly slow down the movement, in other words you gradually reduce the distance a bit, and leave 01:10:433 (1,2) - a bigger spacing to emphasize the drums, and I think this is a perfect to follow the music. So for 02:25:295 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - I would like to see the same for it too, since currently the spacing seems to be irregular, as if it was placed out of blue without taking account the spacing. was a mistake on my part that the second section is too big, fixed
02:26:396 (1,2) - To change stuff, how about you move (2) to the right side of the previous combo to change the flow? The previous combo would orient more to the left, so you can emphasize even more 02:26:396 (1,2) - by changing the orientation. good idea
Fun difficulty, despite I wouldn't pass because of the kicksliders and streams. I'm honestly surprised I didn't find much in this map. Good job.

That should be it. This mapset looks promising, but I do want you to find another one or two mod for the hardest difficulty (it doesn't have to be for every difficulty) just to ensure the map before it is forwarded. Until then, I'm marking this map with a star! thanks for the star! i'll try to get a few more looks before calling you back~

note to self: check thzz's tags after updates

Halfslashed

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Halfslashed 8 years ago

NM just cuz

Together

00:23:644 (3,4) - I'm fine with how you mapped the vocal on 3, since it's a very slurred transition between the syllables. The problem I have with this is that the end of this slider is a prominent beat and not a good point to switch to following guitar, where 4 is part of the guitar. What I would recommend is using a 1/2 slider for 3 and a 1/2 slider starting at 00:23:919, using spacing to reflect the syllable slur.
00:27:222 (4,5) - Why the variation in rhythm? Intensity definitely didn't increase and you used a 1/2 slider before.
00:30:112 (2,3) - It makes more sense to map the vocal here. Start the 1/2 slider on 2, and use a circle on 00:30:387.
00:31:350 (4,5,6) - This variation makes sense. Pointing it out because this shouldn't be changed, given that you apply the above.
00:33:002 (1,3) - Broken stack.
00:58:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Intensity is decreasing, why are the jumps increasing? This also takes away from the contrast with 00:59:424 (1).
01:10:295 (9,1) - Awkward because right now too much emphasis is put on 9. Reversing this would work out better, since it weakens the intensity of 01:10:433 (1,2) as is.
01:10:570 (2,1) - I thought you were doing perfect stacks for gaps greater than 1/1, not your overlap concept. This is also messy due to not being on the slider either.
01:19:240 (1,2,3,4) - Intensity is different among all three of these, why is the spacing all the same? 3 > 1 = 2 > 4
01:44:011 (2,1) - This really needs more emphasis. I already know you're alright with increasing the spacing of this in the kiai, but integration of this concept in other sections of the map like this might be helpful.
01:48:690 (3,4,1) - For a "calm" section, this is out of place. I'd honestly either skip this beat or change your rhythm so that this is on a slider, since this feels really abrupt as is.
02:30:112 (2,4) - This doesn't look like if follows your overlap concept.
02:33:552 (3,2,3,4) - Suspicious stacking wizardry.
02:35:204 (1,2,3,4) - Looks copy pasted and has the same problem as the earlier 1/4s.
03:42:359 (1,4) - Another stack. Not pointing all of them out, but check these :p
03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - You had nice zigzag flow for all your 1/4 sliders before this, now you introduce a counter flow visual? Even though the average player will probably just play these as 1/2 jumps, these are misleading and don't emphasize any variation in the song that I can tell.

Some of the things are repeated over and over. In general I just don't understand your rhythm, which is only playable due to the constant 1/2 in the background, but doesn't reflect vocals consistently enough, nor does it stick to the guitar consistently enough (because let's face it, following a constant 1/2 melody is boring.

Good luck!

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

Mir wrote:
no kds, just trying to contribute to the highest diff (and practice my modding of higher diffs too)

[ Together]

Lots of faux triples and overmapped notes that I see, I get that it's a really high diff but I don't really like overmapping, so if you disagree with a lot of this mod then so be it, but ESPECIALLY in the slow parts there are a lot of circles where there is no sound in the music and it takes away from the feeling of the slow calm section. Eg. 03:05:341 (2) - 03:06:717 (2) - 03:09:194 (3) -
I honestly think that this song has enough in it to be difficulty without adding overmapped notes like you have. That's the MAIN problem I have with this difficulty everything else down here is just some minor nitpicks or notes I REALLY think you should remove.
00:33:002 (1,3) - nice stack nerd. It's My Style (fixed)
00:40:020 (3) - Hmm well, I can understand this if you're following the flute thing, but there's a REALLY noticeable drum in the middle of this that you skip. I would suggest a reverse slider, but it's up to you. yeah i like drawing out the drums more than the flute thing
01:46:626 (3) - Unnecessary note tbh. Especially in a slow part like this. There's no sound here either. remapped
02:21:855 (4) - This one I really recommend removing because it would give the note after more emphasis due to the pause. remapped
03:13:185 (5) - You could slow this SV to emphasize the guitar coming in. You do it for most of the vocals true, but I think it can fit here too? Maybe? Perhaps? lowered the sv and made this 3/4 while bringing the circles way closer, hopefully this is a neat leadin.

thanks babe

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

Halfslashed wrote:
NM just cuz

Together
00:23:644 (3,4) - I'm fine with how you mapped the vocal on 3, since it's a very slurred transition between the syllables. The problem I have with this is that the end of this slider is a prominent beat and not a good point to switch to following guitar, where 4 is part of the guitar. What I would recommend is using a 1/2 slider for 3 and a 1/2 slider starting at 00:23:919, using spacing to reflect the syllable slur. hey look here's this nice purple color i was talking about. i think the fact that the 1/1 sliders end on a powerful sound on the guitar is because this section is actively mapped to vocals, and the guitar is used whenever the vocals become less important in my eyes and i can instead tie in the guitar. that's why each section basically follows the same structure. 1/2 1/2 1/1 circle for vocals and then 1/2 slider spam for the guitar strums
00:27:222 (4,5) - Why the variation in rhythm? Intensity definitely didn't increase and you used a 1/2 slider before.this is the halfway point of this section, and usually I like to switch things up around here. nothing wrong with variation and it's not like two circle compared to a slider in this difficulty is particularly taxing
00:30:112 (2,3) - It makes more sense to map the vocal here. Start the 1/2 slider on 2, and use a circle on 00:30:387. i like this differentiation in rhythm to lead into the part where the drums come in and things are bit more spaced and the sv is a bit higher
00:31:350 (4,5,6) - This variation makes sense. Pointing it out because this shouldn't be changed, given that you apply the above. ya, keeping this as part of the whole variation before next section thing
00:33:002 (1,3) - Broken stack. fixed thanks mir xd
00:58:598 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Intensity is decreasing, why are the jumps increasing? This also takes away from the contrast with 00:59:424 (1). reworked the jumps a bit so they make more sense musically
01:10:295 (9,1) - Awkward because right now too much emphasis is put on 9. Reversing this would work out better, since it weakens the intensity of 01:10:433 (1,2) as is. are you saying i should ctrl those two notes? because either i dont understand or i disagree. however i think the emphasis is spread perfectly fine currently, the spacing goes down to emphasize the section winding down and then the huge spacing on the nc'd notes for power on the drums
01:10:570 (2,1) - I thought you were doing perfect stacks for gaps greater than 1/1, not your overlap concept. This is also messy due to not being on the slider either. made it a perfect stack
01:19:240 (1,2,3,4) - Intensity is different among all three of these, why is the spacing all the same? 3 > 1 = 2 > 4 variable spacing on this part would be too complicated, i like how it's very vanilla currently because the section has the power i thought it should have without a bunch of spacing changes that at a glance would feel unfair to miss on
01:44:011 (2,1) - This really needs more emphasis. I already know you're alright with increasing the spacing of this in the kiai, but integration of this concept in other sections of the map like this might be helpful. i don't really understand this point. every ending of each small kiai is done with this same overlap concept. do you mean 01:43:460 (1,2) - should be spaced more?
01:48:690 (3,4,1) - For a "calm" section, this is out of place. I'd honestly either skip this beat or change your rhythm so that this is on a slider, since this feels really abrupt as is. again, i think this is okay.. i like doing weird shit at halfway marks in sections so things aren't so boring. also if you listen carefully, this is justified in the music
02:30:112 (2,4) - This doesn't look like if follows your overlap concept. put it more in the center, but there are plenty of overlaps like this in the map
02:33:552 (3,2,3,4) - Suspicious stacking wizardry. fix
02:35:204 (1,2,3,4) - Looks copy pasted and has the same problem as the earlier 1/4s. it wasnt :< but remapped from sheelas mod
03:42:359 (1,4) - Another stack. Not pointing all of them out, but check these :p what can i say im a crazy girl who loves to party
03:47:864 (1,2,3,4) - You had nice zigzag flow for all your 1/4 sliders before this, now you introduce a counter flow visual? Even though the average player will probably just play these as 1/2 jumps, these are misleading and don't emphasize any variation in the song that I can tell. the classic end of the map switchup, because im an asshole. but seriously i wanted to do something different here because yknow this is nearing the end of the song.

Some of the things are repeated over and over. In general I just don't understand your rhythm, which is only playable due to the constant 1/2 in the background, but doesn't reflect vocals consistently enough, nor does it stick to the guitar consistently enough (because let's face it, following a constant 1/2 melody is boring. i try to follow whatever i think is most important at the times. that may lead to some people thinking the rhythm is weird or inconsistent, and maybe it is. however i feel like i can explain most of my choices well enough, and they make sense to me. being consistently inconsistent is something i find makes songs that could be mapped way more generically, actually interesting (or at least i hope so)

Good luck! thanks!

everything has been updated. might get another quick mod from someone while i wait on thzz to return. there will also be some hitsound adjustments, but nothing too major.

Left

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Left 8 years ago

lol 2hard

[2gather]
- 00:27:222 (4,5) - any intention for this unstacked ones? I thought 00:31:075 (2,3) - is better for this part.
- 00:39:194 (3,4,5,6,1) - relatively too hard. 00:40:433 (4,5,1) - maybe at least should be easier than this one i think
- 00:49:791 (2,3) - 2 : strong beat and 3 : a bit more strong beat. but flow of 2-3-4 is too soft so I couldn't feel that 3's strong beat enough. of course you gave larger spacing, but not enough for that i think
- 01:41:878 - , 02:57:841 - hmm I thought this also has a beat, if you wanna say 01:42:015 (5) - it isn't overmapping
- 01:46:213 (2,3) - oo too close maybe better in this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6931153
- 01:52:818 (1) - mute tail?
- 02:19:240 (1) - ^
- 03:18:002 - can you catch this beat I think it's important

I liked melody after 04:13:185 (1) - , empty..quite sad.
Good Luck! I hope to see this one in ranked map list:)

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

Left wrote:
lol 2hard

[2gather]
- 00:27:222 (4,5) - any intention for this unstacked ones? I thought 00:31:075 (2,3) - is better for this part. just a variation on this part with no real intention of stopping movement for emphasis
- 00:39:194 (3,4,5,6,1) - relatively too hard. 00:40:433 (4,5,1) - maybe at least should be easier than this one i think changed to distribute power better
- 00:49:791 (2,3) - 2 : strong beat and 3 : a bit more strong beat. but flow of 2-3-4 is too soft so I couldn't feel that 3's strong beat enough. of course you gave larger spacing, but not enough for that i think tried something? might put it back though because i think it was okay that way but we'll see
- 01:41:878 - , 02:57:841 - hmm I thought this also has a beat, if you wanna say 01:42:015 (5) - it isn't overmapping i think current way is fine, it gives power on the start of the vocal and on the strong note without adding too much like a stream burst or a kickslider
- 01:46:213 (2,3) - oo too close maybe better in this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6931153 fix
- 01:52:818 (1) - mute tail? my mistake
- 02:19:240 (1) - ^ again
- 03:18:002 - can you catch this beat I think it's important eh i quite like the undermapped feel of this part

I liked melody after 04:13:185 (1) - , empty..quite sad. yeah the melody is nice but the current ending of the map is such a fitting place
Good Luck! I hope to see this one in ranked map list:) thanks! me too!

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

did some selfmodding on the topdiff. fixed some of the uncomfortable flow/ difficult to read things in the beginning of the map, restructured the jumps before the kiais again to make them feel more comfortable and added a custom stack to the triples that are before and in the kiais. just waiting for thzz now (no more updates until then hopefully z)

also remapped another small section of a calm part cause i thought it could be better

vrnl

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vrnl 8 years ago

i love this song, have a star /w/

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

thanks for the star~

thzz

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thzz 8 years ago

O-Moei wrote:
00:47:864 (3,4) - Can give this a bit more spacing ok

Doormat wrote:
[Agenthzz]
03:48:552 (1,2,3) - feels like a pretty unfair difficulty spike considering how there are no kick sliders up until this point. given that it's high bpm too it might come off as unexpected, especially for an Insane. maybe just try a buzz repeat slider? all right
SPOILER
[thzz]
00:58:873 (1,2) - 02:10:433 (3,4) - feels a bit overmapped, there are no sounds on the blue ticks so making these 1/4 repeats feels out of place. i get that it's trying to map to the background noise but i think you should stick to the main instrument sounds i think the synth sound from right side is clear.
03:36:304 (3,4) - sudden increase in spacing for vocal emphasis makes this feel out of place since 03:32:176 (1) - 03:34:378 (1) - didn't do the same thing. i'd try sticking to same 1.4x ds for (3)->(4) changed to another placement

sheela wrote:
[Agenthzz's Insane]
00:24:470 (2,3) - How about a lower spacing like 2.50x instead? 3.0x feels a bit too much and your other patterns like 00:23:369 (4,5) - and 00:25:570 (2,3) - have smaller distances than 3.0x. okay
00:38:231 (4) - Same thing here; what you can do is Ctrl + G and move it around x:229 y:227. decrease the distance with another way
00:39:882 (2,3,4,5) - You can try the rhythm in the box to follow the new stand-out sound: i've already considered this pattern. since i don't make 00:39:745 - to be clickable, i think i should prefer downbeat and drum sounds. also, i don't think 00:39:470 (1) - can be 1/2 slider because of vocal.
Rhythm
01:16:763 (5,1) - Make the spacing bigger. Currently it plays uncomfortably since the setting for the spacing is like 1.30x. So placing a smaller spacing when it doesn't follow the music halts pretty much the flow. okay
01:19:379 (2,3) - Might want to do the same as above. atmosphere of the song is changed a bit here, so i think there's no problem to take lower distance.
03:49:791 (4) - Shorten the slider to the red tick to keep the rhythm consistent with the other choruses? all right
[thzz's Extra]
00:24:745 (2,3) - The flow was a bit difficult and uncomfortable to play. A remedy would be to flip the slider that would point to the right side, due to the order of the flow that goes left to right. So the movement of the player can also go from left to right, which results a comfortable flow. i changed the angle a bit
Pattern
00:25:295 (1,2,3) - This is unnecessarily far to play in a part where only the guitar and vocals are played to be honest. If we compare it with the spacing of the other objects in this part, the maximum spacing is 3.0x. In the end, it breaks the consistency and I recommend you shorten the spacing. fixed
00:39:263 (4) - I don't see why you added a note here when there is no distinct sound here. the hi-hat
01:07:956 (1,2) - You should reduce the spacing here since the setting for big jump is used to emphasized the crash sounds like 01:07:130 (1,2,1) - in this music section. Or is it to follow the pitch of the piano? Either way, it's a bit too early to make a big jump as you want to leave the bigger ones for the section 01:09:332 -, and it just doesn't follow the music correctly in my opinion. 1.90x is recommendable if you follow the piano, otherwise 1.60x would be for the drums. all right, shortened distance.
01:08:781 (1,2) - Same reason as above; a distance like 1.90x should be fine as long it's not too big. i think here should be big jump because of strong drum sounds. also, this is slider jump, rather we shouldn't consider only with ds imo.
01:09:332 (1,2) - Same reason as above also; the drums that 01:09:332 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - hit are not significantly changing, therefore the spacing for 01:09:332 (1,2) - should be lower or similar to 01:09:745 (5,6,7) -. in order to prepare for a big jump at 01:10:433 (1,2) - , i put some high distance placement.
01:10:158 (8) - Same as above; you can just do Ctrl + G and it should be good. same
01:27:222 (2,3) - Nothing needs to be really emphasized during these objects, so I recommend you lower the spacing here too. Also the flow is not comfortable to play, hence a direct flow would be better here. A recommended place is x:286 y:17. shortened ds though, i don't wanna use liner flow at 01:27:634 (3,4,5) -
01:41:259 (1,2) - If it was stacked, the player could easily conceive it as a 1/2 rhythm, and not a 1/4 rhythm since the mini distance can confuse players to think that it is one. okay
01:48:896 (2) - I don't seem to hear much here. same, the hi-hat
01:53:369 (3) - Add a new combo because a new section in the music starts here. okay
02:37:130 (6) - To be honest, the overlap looks ugly to me. I'd rather move it to the corner, like as x:482 y:360. changed with another way
Be careful with the spacing emphasis, but overall it is a nice difficulty.

thank you all!

will edit here and paste a mapset adjusted hitsounding
edit : http://puu.sh/t7uzp/9c5468f1cc.osz

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all updated!

sheela

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sheela 8 years ago

Before we move this;

Rocket Agent's Beginner:

00:58:873 (4) - Replace the slider with hitcircle at the start of the slider and a 2/1 slider on 00:59:424 -, so that you can have a clickable object at the start of the measure, which emphasize it. It'll also take care of the new combo of 01:00:525 (1) - , because it currently doesn't sound right.
03:09:332 - The new combo pattern should restart here. Basically you want to add a new combo to 03:09:332 (3) - 03:11:534 (2) - and remove it from 03:10:433 (1) -.

Agenthzz's Insane:

03:35:066 (2,3) - Swap those objects? At the beginning of this slow part (03:22:543 -), your sliders seem to follow the vocals, like 03:23:644 (1,2,3) - and 03:25:846 (1,2) - In the case of 03:35:066 (2,3) - the vocals holds on 03:35:066 - until 03:35:341 -, which I think fits and it will follow the consistency.
03:48:552 (1,1) - I think a smaller spacing like 1.75x in-between is a safer thing to do in an Insane.

Another:

03:43:460 (1,2,3) - The flow was still a bit uncomfortable, mainly when we pass from (2) to (3). Try this probably: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6960872

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sheela wrote:
Before we move this;

Rocket Agent's Beginner:
00:58:873 (4) - Replace the slider with hitcircle at the start of the slider and a 2/1 slider on 00:59:424 -, so that you can have a clickable object at the start of the measure, which emphasize it. It'll also take care of the new combo of 01:00:525 (1) - , because it currently doesn't sound right.
03:09:332 - The new combo pattern should restart here. Basically you want to add a new combo to 03:09:332 (3) - 03:11:534 (2) - and remove it from 03:10:433 (1) -.
Agenthzz's Insane:
03:35:066 (2,3) - Swap those objects? At the beginning of this slow part (03:22:543 -), your sliders seem to follow the vocals, like 03:23:644 (1,2,3) - and 03:25:846 (1,2) - In the case of 03:35:066 (2,3) - the vocals holds on 03:35:066 - until 03:35:341 -, which I think fits and it will follow the consistency.
03:48:552 (1,1) - I think a smaller spacing like 1.75x in-between is a safer thing to do in an Insane.
Another:
03:43:460 (1,2,3) - The flow was still a bit uncomfortable, mainly when we pass from (2) to (3). Try this probably: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6960872
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sheela 8 years ago

Moved the offset by +10 and fix some inconsistent stuffs. Here's my bubble!

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here we go bois

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im so hyped for this set

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soon maybe tm

Xinely

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Xinely 8 years ago

yatta ne!

Easy :
- 00:23:103 - remove greenline?
- 00:26:957 (4) - finish for consitency with 00:24:755 (2) - ?
- 01:14:296 (3) - maybe 104,88 for a bit circular flow?
- 02:28:608 (2) - 303,198 to avoid the error spacing and stack the tail on (3)'s slider body better
- 02:40:168 (2,3) - this is too curvy compared with prev and next slider, pls smoother it a bit
- 03:02:805 - add manual break?
- 03:02:874 - ^
- 03:08:516 (2) - whistle for piano pls
- 03:12:920 - why not map this when you mapped 03:08:516 (2) - , i dislike inconsistency :C
- 03:42:920 (4,2) - stack would be cute

Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 -
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time?
- 02:15:397 (1) - just suggestion maybe remove this? so the break time will be a real full a break time from start to end. also consistency with the easy diff
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern?

Hard :
- dafak hp 5 pls
- 00:27:232 (2) - quality spacing
- 00:30:122 - skip vocal here? that sounds so weird imo
- 00:44:434 (2) - weak sound here i dont hear vocal too so remove it?
- 00:53:241 (2) - can you just move to 256,72 so flow looks so cute?
- 00:58:746 (2) - similar like 00:44:434 (2) - but i would say remove to keep ur 1/2 rhythms arent so long. normal has no 1/2 afterall
- 01:07:002 (2,3) - maigod i would say not use triplet here.. normal has no 1/2.. AAAAAAAAA
- 01:08:379 (4,5) - can you just make 1/1 slider here because literally 01:08:516 - has no sound ;w;
- 01:09:755 (2) - same with 00:58:746 (2) -

Easy :
- 00:23:103 - remove greenline?
- 00:26:957 (4) - finish for consitency with 00:24:755 (2) - ?
- 01:14:296 (3) - maybe 104,88 for a bit circular flow?
- 02:28:608 (2) - 303,198 to avoid the error spacing and stack the tail on (3)'s slider body better
- 02:40:168 (2,3) - this is too curvy compared with prev and next slider, pls smoother it a bit
- 03:02:805 - add manual break?
- 03:02:874 - ^
- 03:08:516 (2) - whistle for piano pls
- 03:12:920 - why not map this when you mapped 03:08:516 (2) - , i dislike inconsistency :C
- 03:42:920 (4,2) - stack would be cute

Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 -
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time?
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern?

Hard :
- dafak hp 5 pls
- 00:27:232 (2) - quality spacing
- 00:30:122 - skip vocal here? that sounds so weird imo
- 00:53:241 (2) - can you just move to 256,72 so flow looks so cute?
- 01:07:002 (2,3) - maigod i would say not use triplet here.. normal has no 1/2.. AAAAAAAAA
- 01:08:379 (4,5) - can you just make 1/1 slider here because literally 01:08:516 - has no sound ;w;
- 01:10:993 (1) - wow the jump gg move to 416,272 with tail to 440,152
- 01:20:214 (2,3) - same as prev
- 01:41:681 (2) - same with prev
- 02:22:966 (4,5) - 1/4 slider better than triplet at this time uwu
- 02:36:177 (2,3) - ^
- 03:14:847 (3) - maybe nc for a spacing change, this can be read as 1/2 ww

Insane :
- OD 7 pls or you want me to kill you
- 00:45:535 (2) - the jump is too overdone.. pls nerf like 188,72
- 00:51:727 (1) - weird to see a normal or low spacing here. try a bit bigger like 440,272
- 01:48:700 (2) - dafak spacing, 32,140 for consistency
- 01:51:727 (2) - ^ 160,128. i mean why here doesnt need 0,7x spacing? because this is a circle only uwu
- 02:58:608 (2) - nc for sv change and anti jump
- 03:19:663 (2,3) - the jump to (2) is too sudden makes a surprise imo, try change them like http://puu.sh/to7ja/251b509673.jpg
- 03:48:562 (1) - ctrl+g for smaller jump from this to next slider?

Another :
- if u agree with od 7 in insane, od 8 here
- 00:59:847 (2) - consistent spacing pls

ok so the main problem is spread from Normal to Hard.. this normal diff somehow is like an easy diff (because contain of 1/1 only) while this hard diff is a real hard diff.. so in final i asked some opinions and we agree if nerf the hard for sake spread normal to hard being better only make spread from hard to insane becomes bad. so the only way we can take is keep the hard diff (u still can keep those 1/2 i told in game its good to go as a hard diff and you can nerf/keep 1/4, it depends on the situation later) but what we have to take is.. you have to map Advanced diff for spread between normal and hard.. its ok i know you dont want to add a diff anymore but we have to do it for a better spread. you can just map it, find 3-5 mods and we will go later

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flake 8 years ago

fast

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

mapping an advanced, will reply to the mod after set is updated with the new diff.

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 8 years ago

i "helped"

03:27 Logic Agent: hi sorry to bother you but are you busy
03:27 Kagetsu: just playing
03:28 Logic Agent: was gonna ask if you had time for a quick irc on a lowdiff, so i can get rebubble
03:28 Logic Agent: had to map an advanced for spread issues and just need some irc mods before rebubble x=x
03:28 Logic Agent: dont have to if you dont want to obv
03:28 Kagetsu: send it
03:29 *Logic Agent is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1139341 Amatsuki - Chiisana Koi no Uta]
03:29 Logic Agent: thzz isn't on so its not hitsounded ofc but ya
03:30 Kagetsu: hmm
03:30 Kagetsu: which diff?
03:30 Logic Agent: advanced
03:32 Kagetsu: well
03:32 Kagetsu: nothing really wrong on this diff i think
03:33 Logic Agent: yeah xinely asked me for 3-5 mods but
03:33 Logic Agent: idk how you get 3-5 mods on an advanced lol
03:33 Logic Agent: something must be seriously wrong to need so much
03:33 Kagetsu: i kinda dislike those 1/2 sliders tho
03:33 Logic Agent: which ones
03:34 Logic Agent: 01:56:406 (4) - ? this kind of stuff?
03:34 Kagetsu: ya
03:34 Kagetsu: https://puu.sh/tp8CS/34c6b30729.png would work better i guess
03:35 Kagetsu: because those 2 01:56:269 (3,4) - being clickable kinda outshines the snare on 01:56:406 -
03:35 Logic Agent: yeah true that rhythm is probably a bit nicer but if i did that
03:35 Logic Agent: there would be a TON of overlaps
03:36 Logic Agent: and i don't really like them >
03:36 Logic Agent: prefer the small gaps in the rhythm to give it a bit more spacing yknow
03:36 Kagetsu: i guess you would have to rearrange the whole pattern
03:37 Logic Agent: hm
03:37 Logic Agent: i see what you're saying and i'll definitely do that for the verses if someone else thinks it's kinda bad
03:37 Logic Agent: the kiais already use a nicer rhythm i think
03:37 Logic Agent: cause more vocals
03:37 Kagetsu: it's fine anyways
03:37 Kagetsu: cuz the song is repetitive
03:38 Logic Agent: full length xd
03:38 Kagetsu: and repeating the same rhythm all the time would be boring as hell
03:38 Logic Agent: cool though
03:38 Kagetsu: ya
03:38 Kagetsu: it's nice
03:38 Logic Agent: agree
03:38 Logic Agent: thanks, can you post on thread just so xinely knows im asking people LOL
03:39 Kagetsu: rly
03:39 Kagetsu: 01:39:617 (4) - could replace these stuff
03:39 Kagetsu: for 2 circles
03:39 Kagetsu: since the snares are way louder
03:39 Logic Agent: yeah i did some variation at the last chorus with that 04:07:140 (2,3) -
03:39 Logic Agent: i'll change that one too then
03:40 Logic Agent: the only part where the rhythms aren't like super the same are the "hora" parts
03:40 Logic Agent: just cause why not
03:41 Kagetsu: lol
03:41 Kagetsu: i'm also worried about these 02:57:782 (2,3) -
03:41 Logic Agent: maybe just do
03:41 Logic Agent: a reverse slider and a circle you think?
03:41 Kagetsu: ya
03:41 Logic Agent: reverse 1/2
03:41 Logic Agent: kk
03:42 Kagetsu: problem is that 1/2 sliders works as kicksliders for this type of diffs
03:42 Kagetsu: newbies don't even have time to think about it
03:42 Logic Agent: ahh i see
03:42 Logic Agent: you're right then
03:42 Logic Agent: makes sense to think of it that way
03:43 Kagetsu: ya, just one circle works generally better for these diffs
03:43 Kagetsu: 1/2 is mainly used to emphsize stuff
03:44 Kagetsu: just like you do on insanes or extras i think
03:44 Kagetsu: i always try to avoid to use too much of 1/2 sliders D:
03:44 Logic Agent: 01:37:415 (2,3,1) -
03:44 Logic Agent: do you think this works?
03:44 Logic Agent: yeah this is my first time mapping an advanced so it's strange for me
03:44 Logic Agent: never mapped below hard before
03:45 Logic Agent: 01:40:718 (2,3,1) - and this, you think i should change this one as well?
03:45 Logic Agent: just gonna be sure, if you think those two should go then i'll change them all
03:45 Kagetsu: ya
03:45 Kagetsu: it's kinda hard
03:45 Logic Agent: kk
03:45 Logic Agent: yeah i understand
03:45 Logic Agent: i'll get rid of those
03:47 Kagetsu: even https://puu.sh/tp99y/d123918299.png works better i'd say
03:47 Logic Agent: where is that at exactly
03:47 Logic Agent: on timeline
03:48 Kagetsu: 01:37:415 -
03:48 Kagetsu: you can always ignore some drums
03:48 Kagetsu: for the sake of playability
03:48 Kagetsu: lol
03:49 Logic Agent: i kinda like that idea
03:49 Logic Agent: starting the small kiai with 3 circles
03:49 Logic Agent: i think i'll do that one too
03:50 Kagetsu: it would work like a "stream" for newbies
03:50 Logic Agent: gotcha
03:50 Kagetsu: also this 02:01:085 (1,2,3,4) -
03:51 Kagetsu: i think this rhythm is too confusing tbh
03:52 Logic Agent: maybe just a reverse and a circle instead of the 1 2 3
03:52 Logic Agent: ?
03:53 Kagetsu: hmm
03:53 Kagetsu: how about https://puu.sh/tp9oH/a898575999.png
03:53 Logic Agent: or what do you tihnk of this
03:53 Logic Agent: https://la.s-ul.eu/mMlCZkwn
03:53 Kagetsu: that would also work i guess
03:54 Kagetsu: you may also try this one https://puu.sh/tp9qB/d507370b76.png
03:54 Logic Agent: i like reverses here cause they catch all of the drum usually lol
03:55 Logic Agent: o i like that one
03:55 Kagetsu: triple for newbies
03:56 Kagetsu: it works for emphasis i guess
03:56 Logic Agent: yeah im into it, going with that one
03:56 Kagetsu: and it's way easier to read
03:56 Logic Agent: it's a nice place to put it other than just doing it on the starts of small kiais
03:58 Kagetsu: 03:15:397 (2,1) - is this the only place where the sliderend covers the whole body of the following slider?
03:59 Logic Agent: yeah should i change that?
03:59 Logic Agent: thought cause it was slow maybe it would be ok
04:00 Kagetsu: idk... looks weird considering how the map is structured
04:00 Kagetsu: maybe https://puu.sh/tp9F0/fee70b9dbd.png would work better
04:01 Logic Agent: sure then
04:02 Kagetsu: well that's enough i guess
04:02 Logic Agent: thanks, i'm just removing the rest of the "kick sliders" now
04:02 Logic Agent: helpful mod
04:03 Kagetsu: "helpful" lol
04:03 Logic Agent: hey it was helpful even if it was a small mod on a low diff lol
04:04 Kagetsu: glad i helped (:
04:04 Logic Agent: apprecaite it a lot~ if you can post log on thread so xinely doesnt kill me id apprecaite it
04:04 Kagetsu: kk
04:04 Kagetsu: wait

Battle

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Battle 8 years ago

xinely should kill u anyways

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Xinely 8 years ago

/me kills logic agent

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wow! thanks xinely! pro

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no kds because had it before

[Advanced]

02:33:012 (1) - aesthetics/minor flow thing, but why why not red point in the middle of this slider? would give a small indication of where to click next
00:55:856 (1) - remove NC, you have no nc's in the same spot anywhere else in the map
01:02:736 (2,3,1) - this feels a bit weird without having a note to play on the red tick, i know you're hitting the hihat sizzle but i would prefer it if that was on the slider end so you hit both snares, doing this gives a bit more emphasis on the piano too (in short move (3) slider to red tick)
01:26:957 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:33:012 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:56:131 (1,2) - this is the only part of this section that doesnt have 1/2 notes on the snarekicksnare pattern on the end of the bar, maybe consider doing something here?
04:10:168 (2,3,4,1) - this pattern misses out the section of the drum fill that changes to the toms, it doesn't matter so much in the rest of these since there are vocal switches on the notes you do hit, but here their isn't so i would prefer a pattern that hits that switch, even 3 1/2 sliders would work well here

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Mir 8 years ago

I can't make straight slide- oh wait there are a lot in this diff...

18:01 Mir: >>
18:02 Logic Agent: <<
18:02 Logic Agent: also it's not hitsounded cause thzz isn't online
18:02 Mir: 01:41:269 (1,2) - fix ds
18:02 Mir: i guess
18:02 Mir: aimod being dumb maybe but check it
18:02 Logic Agent: ! you got me
18:02 Logic Agent: no it's right
18:02 Logic Agent: that section is .8
18:02 Logic Agent: and i used .9
18:02 Mir: 00:24:204 (3,2) - :thinking:
18:03 Logic Agent: o there's a lot of straight sliders in this map
18:03 Mir: nono
18:03 Mir: just uh
18:03 Mir: don'tcha wanna offset that
18:03 Logic Agent: o
18:03 Mir: so it doesn't stack 100%
18:03 Mir: up to you tbh
18:03 Logic Agent: maybe if xinely says something ill fix it
18:03 Logic Agent: because it'll drive my ocd crazy
18:03 Mir: im not seeing it done anywhere else
18:03 Mir: xD
18:04 Logic Agent: yep >>
18:04 Logic Agent: but it's at the beginning so
18:04 Logic Agent: at least im not doing it at the end
18:04 Mir: 00:42:232 (2) -
18:04 Mir: remove
18:04 Mir: pls
18:04 Mir: ty
18:04 Mir: 00:41:819 (1) - make this a reverse or something cuz there isn't a sound there
18:04 Logic Agent: but those are everywhere >>
18:04 Mir: >>
18:05 Mir: 00:43:746 (3) - this is k
18:05 Logic Agent: ok this entire section is like
18:05 Mir: but that previous one has no sound on it
18:05 Logic Agent: cancerously focused on the drums
18:05 Logic Agent: i don't wanna be that guy but there's some kind of background noise that im using to justify it and let me ignore vocals
18:05 Logic Agent: because new players are dum and i dont want to map random upbeat vocals here
18:05 Mir: i'd be fine with that
18:05 Logic Agent: cause fuck amatsuki
18:06 Mir: if there were a background noise
18:06 Mir: but as it stands that sound does not warrant a circle at all ;-;
18:06 Mir: i don't even hear a sound there
18:06 Mir: which is why i suggested reverses but eeeeeeeeeeeeeeh
18:06 Mir: if you're following the drums there's nothing there
18:06 Logic Agent: i'd basically have to remap >>
18:06 Mir: so
18:06 Mir: I MEAN
18:07 Mir: OVERMAPPING AN ADVANCED :THINKING:
18:07 Logic Agent: >> it's more so that
18:07 Logic Agent: 00:55:030 (1,2,1) -
18:07 Logic Agent: i don't do this rhythm
18:07 Logic Agent: throughout the entire map
18:07 Logic Agent: i had to explain it to kagetsu last night and he was on board but i don't really remember what is aid
18:07 Mir: that rhythm is good tho
18:07 Logic Agent: but 4 minutes of
18:07 Logic Agent: just that
18:07 Logic Agent: i already repeat a lot of patterns
18:07 Mir: well
18:07 Logic Agent: because im very limited in what i can do
18:08 Mir: you don't have to make it that 100% of the time
18:08 Mir: you could do http://i.imgur.com/rga65KD.png
18:08 Mir: vary the first one or something
18:08 Logic Agent: oh yeah
18:08 Logic Agent: i remember now
18:08 Mir: or the second idk
18:08 Logic Agent: the reason i did this rhythm
18:08 Logic Agent: is because i hate overlaps
18:09 Logic Agent: gaps in the music mean i dont have to overlap everything
18:09 Logic Agent: if i cahnged the rthyhm the entire map would overlap
18:09 Logic Agent: and thats aids
18:09 Mir: so basically
18:09 Mir: aesthetics > playabiltiy
18:09 Mir: >___________>
18:09 Logic Agent: ? yes
18:09 Logic Agent: but seriously though
18:10 Logic Agent: idk
18:10 Logic Agent: at least it's consistent
18:10 Mir: the rest of the map is fine
18:10 Mir: it's just those two i pointed out trigger me so hard
18:10 Mir: cuz there's literally nothing there
18:10 Logic Agent: lmao
18:10 Logic Agent: wait its literally just those 2?
18:10 Mir: yes
18:10 Mir: it's just those two
18:10 Logic Agent: i thought you were telling me to remap
18:10 Logic Agent: .
18:10 Mir: 02:02:599 (2) - well
18:10 Mir: okay this one too
18:11 Mir: 02:04:801 (2) - and this
18:11 Mir: but if im correct in remembering the song
18:11 Mir: that should be it for those sections
18:11 Mir: cuz it only occurs twice right
18:12 Logic Agent: hm.
18:12 Logic Agent: but really though the thing is if i did that
18:12 Logic Agent: it would be like
18:12 Logic Agent: a string of 8 objects just all on top of each other
18:12 Logic Agent: which is disgusting
18:12 Mir: well what you could do
18:13 Mir: 02:02:186 (1,2) - at least for this
18:13 Mir: is something like this http://i.imgur.com/3C8ht6S.png
18:13 Mir: but you'd have to lower density later hm
18:13 Logic Agent: i actually removed all double 1/2 sliders from this map last night >>
18:14 Logic Agent: after a discussion with kagetsu on them
18:14 Mir: oh
18:14 Mir: reverse + circle?
18:15 Mir: i really like this song
18:15 Mir: tbh
18:15 Logic Agent: ya its cute af
18:15 Mir: well aside from those
18:15 Logic Agent: ok i definitely see what you're saying
18:15 Mir: idk what you wanna do with them
18:15 Logic Agent: the first and middle of the verses
18:16 Logic Agent: and i don't wanna be "that guy" and say if someone else brings it up i'll change it
18:16 Mir: but uh yeah definitely get some opinions on those
18:16 Mir: i mean i don't much care about "that guy"
18:16 Logic Agent: yeah i'll see if lon says anything in his post
18:16 Mir: but ye
18:16 Mir: alright from the top then lets go
18:16 Logic Agent: quick find a missing nc or blanket so i can kd you
18:16 Mir: i haven't even started
18:16 Mir: i just noticed those instantly
18:16 Logic Agent: bles
18:16 Mir: 00:28:608 (3,4) - blanket
18:17 Logic Agent: this is the content i came for
18:17 Mir: 00:55:856 (1) - random nc
18:18 Logic Agent: nice
18:18 Mir: 00:58:883 (2,3) - tbh i'd make this another reverse
18:18 Logic Agent: did it for variation and if i did a reverse
18:18 Logic Agent: i'd be on the right side of the field again
18:18 Logic Agent: cause advanced ds rules blah blah
18:18 Mir: eh i guess so
18:18 Logic Agent: it'd make that part look clutterer
18:18 Logic Agent: d
18:19 Mir: 01:24:617 (1) - hngngn
18:19 Mir: straigthpls
18:19 Mir: (notreally)
18:19 Logic Agent: but they're both curved
18:19 Logic Agent: my slightly gay children
18:19 Mir: ik ;-;
18:20 Mir: 01:37:691 (3,4,1) - :thinking:
18:20 Mir: this is basically a 109 triple
18:20 Mir: idk man
18:20 Mir: iiii dddd kkk
18:21 Logic Agent: yeah there's only 4 of them in the map
18:21 Mir: 01:48:425 (2,3) - so this is more strain but this is weaker than 01:49:525 (2) -
18:21 Mir: and the latter is stronger
18:21 Logic Agent: i think they're good for variation where the song is noticeably different
18:21 Mir: should be fine
18:21 Mir: i mean it is an advanced
18:22 Logic Agent: ok ill change those 2
18:22 Logic Agent: the reverse and 1/2 circle
18:22 Logic Agent: switch place
18:22 Logic Agent: s
18:22 Mir: ye
18:22 Mir: 01:55:580 (1,3) - pixel blanket
18:23 Logic Agent: okdad
18:23 Mir: 02:34:663 (3,1) - ew this implied flow
18:23 Logic Agent: yeah i had to do that when i took out kick sliders
18:24 Logic Agent: maybe ill change to 1/2 circle
18:24 Logic Agent: and ctrlg
18:24 Mir: hm
18:24 Mir: instead
18:24 Mir: try this http://i.imgur.com/KeBnvt1.jpg
18:24 Mir: highlighted is the bigger change
18:25 Mir: you can keep your rhythm
18:25 Mir: i mean that's just a rough thing you can edit it how you want
18:25 Logic Agent: ok nice
18:26 Mir: 02:59:984 (3) - so i know this goes pretty into the edge already
18:26 Mir: but you could move this around and make it end on the red
18:27 Mir: to emphasize that bass thing
18:27 Logic Agent: ok made it like a halfcircle thing
18:27 Mir: kk
18:28 Mir: 03:22:002 - hnhgngnh
18:28 Mir: i'd map these vocalsss
18:28 Logic Agent: i did in the other vers
18:28 Logic Agent: or did i
18:28 Logic Agent: i dont remember
18:28 Logic Agent: ok yeah i never mapped those
18:28 Logic Agent: thzz did though
18:29 Mir: damn
18:29 Mir: i feel like mapping this now for the hell of it
18:29 Logic Agent: lmao
18:29 Mir: 03:34:113 (2,1) - oh my god
18:29 Mir: kill yourself
18:29 Logic Agent: whats wrong with my child
18:29 Logic Agent: im actually into those recently
18:30 Logic Agent: weird blankets
18:30 Mir: LOL
18:30 Mir: its like
18:30 Mir: the visual distance of that slider to the next
18:30 Mir: looks so fucked cuz of that
18:30 Mir: the end is way closer than any other part
18:30 Mir: also the blanket is off
18:30 Logic Agent: i don't know why i like it but i do
18:31 Logic Agent: 03:39:617 (2) - should i nc this
18:31 Mir: alright mister curvelord
18:31 Mir: 02:26:406 (1) -
18:31 Mir: you did here
18:31 Mir: so yes
18:31 Logic Agent: okdad
18:31 Mir: 03:54:480 (1) - nazi
18:32 Mir: 03:55:580 (1,2) - this is off tho
18:32 Mir: 03:57:508 (4,1) - uhhghhgh ;-;
18:32 Mir: 03:59:984 (1) - why is this so curved?
18:32 Mir: it's way more curved than the other sliders in the kiai
18:33 Logic Agent: idk but i made it less curved
18:33 Logic Agent: also fixed all those other things
18:33 Mir: 04:01:085 (1) - same
18:33 Mir: 04:12:645 (2,1) - same as the bass thing maybe
18:33 Logic Agent: okok
18:33 Mir: up to you
18:34 Logic Agent: i need a cute slider shape
18:34 Logic Agent: if im going to do that
18:34 Logic Agent: you have one shot
18:34 Mir: the pressure is on
18:36 Mir: hm
18:37 Logic Agent: i think i miught just do a wave
18:37 Mir: i was thinking that too
18:37 Mir: but i thought you'd decline a simple wave
18:37 Logic Agent: me declining simple
18:37 Logic Agent: good meme
18:37 Logic Agent: ya i did a wave
18:38 Mir: what i did: http://i.imgur.com/DSZXfot.png
18:38 Mir: don't ever ask me for slider suggestions
18:38 Logic Agent: thats almost cute but im gonna stick with my vanilla curve
18:39 Logic Agent: ..wave
18:39 Logic Agent: thing
18:39 Mir: ALMOST CUTE
18:39 Mir: tell me how to cute
18:39 Logic Agent: >>
18:39 Logic Agent: https://la.s-ul.eu/KJ8pjlnH
18:39 Mir: OH I DID IT
18:39 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/oCp6fgL.png
18:39 Mir: this is cute.
18:39 Mir: 100% cute.
18:39 Logic Agent: ok send me .osu line for that
18:39 Logic Agent: cause i cant make it myuself
18:39 Mir: uh
18:39 Mir: UH
18:39 Mir: how to do
18:39 Mir: oh
18:40 Mir: second to last object lul
18:40 Logic Agent: open .osu in notepad it'd be the last one
18:40 Logic Agent: or ya second to last
18:40 Mir: check disc
18:40 Logic Agent: did you post it in the right onw
18:40 Logic Agent: o
18:41 Mir: you needa reposition it
18:41 Mir: rotate or whatever
18:41 Logic Agent: ok your slider is forever a part of my map
18:41 Logic Agent: mir will have a ranked slider
18:41 Mir: wow fuck you
18:41 Mir: LOL
18:41 Logic Agent: :^)
18:41 Mir: alright im glad you like it
18:42 Logic Agent: ok post so i can not give you kds
18:42 Logic Agent: because youve modded this map 3 times
18:42 Mir: >>
18:42 Mir: and only received kds once
18:42 Mir: lul
18:42 Logic Agent: i love free labor
18:42 Mir: http://i.imgur.com/8pgHuQA.png
18:42 Mir: .
18:43 Logic Agent: oh
18:43 Logic Agent: i uh
18:43 Logic Agent: tried tooooooooo
18:43 Logic Agent: fix preview point by renamind mp3
18:43 Logic Agent: and then switching all to the new mp3
18:43 Logic Agent: so you have an old mp3 in your thing
18:43 Logic Agent: lmfao
18:43 Logic Agent: update: it d idn't fucking work
18:43 Mir: lmao its k
18:43 Mir: i got it
18:43 Logic Agent: preview point is still a spanish greeting
18:43 Logic Agent: im just jealous cause other peoples preview point works
18:43 Logic Agent: why can't MINE WORK
18:43 Mir: MA checks out
18:44 Mir: seems good to go o/
18:44 Mir: now i need savelog
18:44 Mir: hue

Logic Agent

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Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Log Off Now wrote:
no kds because had it before

[Advanced]

02:33:012 (1) - aesthetics/minor flow thing, but why why not red point in the middle of this slider? would give a small indication of where to click next didn't really use any red node sliders in this map, don't wanna put one here for that reason
00:55:856 (1) - remove NC, you have no nc's in the same spot anywhere else in the map whoops, done
01:02:736 (2,3,1) - this feels a bit weird without having a note to play on the red tick, i know you're hitting the hihat sizzle but i would prefer it if that was on the slider end so you hit both snares, doing this gives a bit more emphasis on the piano too (in short move (3) slider to red tick) i also liked this but i didn't do it for some reason. changed (for now maybe?)
01:26:957 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:33:012 (1) - same comment as 00:24:204 (3) -
02:56:131 (1,2) - this is the only part of this section that doesnt have 1/2 notes on the snarekicksnare pattern on the end of the bar, maybe consider doing something here? don't want to touch it for now, but i was kinda going for a winding down like 1/2 reverse into 1/1 reverse kind of thing here. might change though
04:10:168 (2,3,4,1) - this pattern misses out the section of the drum fill that changes to the toms, it doesn't matter so much in the rest of these since there are vocal switches on the notes you do hit, but here their isn't so i would prefer a pattern that hits that switch, even 3 1/2 sliders would work well here yeah it's kinda unlucky that i had to do this but it's mainly for density issues, if i spammed 1/2 sliders here that'd be a pretty difficult spike for the map winding down. no change for now unless someone mentions somethign in specific i like

thaaaannkkkss

Logic Agent

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Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

Xinely wrote:
yatta ne!

Easy :
- 00:23:103 - remove greenline?
- 00:26:957 (4) - finish for consitency with 00:24:755 (2) - ?
- 01:14:296 (3) - maybe 104,88 for a bit circular flow?
- 02:28:608 (2) - 303,198 to avoid the error spacing and stack the tail on (3)'s slider body better
- 02:40:168 (2,3) - this is too curvy compared with prev and next slider, pls smoother it a bit
- 03:02:805 - add manual break? game won't let me add a break here lol, unless i'm doing something wrong
- 03:02:874 - ^ same unless i'm dumb
- 03:08:516 (2) - whistle for piano pls
- 03:12:920 - why not map this when you mapped 03:08:516 (2) - , i dislike inconsistency :C
- 03:42:920 (4,2) - stack would be cute

Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real not my diff but just wanted to point out with advanced this should be better, since each lowdiff goes up by 2 now
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 -
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time?
- 02:15:397 (1) - just suggestion maybe remove this? so the break time will be a real full a break time from start to end. also consistency with the easy diff
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern?

Hard :
- dafak hp 5 pls
- 00:27:232 (2) - quality spacing
- 00:30:122 - skip vocal here? that sounds so weird imo
- 00:44:434 (2) - weak sound here i dont hear vocal too so remove it?
- 00:53:241 (2) - can you just move to 256,72 so flow looks so cute?
- 00:58:746 (2) - similar like 00:44:434 (2) - but i would say remove to keep ur 1/2 rhythms arent so long. normal has no 1/2 afterall
- 01:07:002 (2,3) - maigod i would say not use triplet here.. normal has no 1/2.. AAAAAAAAA kept triplet since i added advanced, but we'll see what you think now
- 01:08:379 (4,5) - can you just make 1/1 slider here because literally 01:08:516 - has no sound ;w;
- 01:09:755 (2) - same with 00:58:746 (2) -

Insane :
- OD 7 pls or you want me to kill you okdad
- 00:45:535 (2) - the jump is too overdone.. pls nerf like 188,72 thzz
- 00:51:727 (1) - weird to see a normal or low spacing here. try a bit bigger like 440,272 thzz
- 01:48:700 (2) - dafak spacing, 32,140 for consistency
- 01:51:727 (2) - ^ 160,128. i mean why here doesnt need 0,7x spacing? because this is a circle only uwu
- 02:58:608 (2) - nc for sv change and anti jump
- 03:19:663 (2,3) - the jump to (2) is too sudden makes a surprise imo, try change them like http://puu.sh/to7ja/251b509673.jpg thzz
- 03:48:562 (1) - ctrl+g for smaller jump from this to next slider? thzz

Another :
- if u agree with od 7 in insane, od 8 here
- 00:59:847 (2) - consistent spacing pls

ok so the main problem is spread from Normal to Hard.. this normal diff somehow is like an easy diff (because contain of 1/1 only) while this hard diff is a real hard diff.. so in final i asked some opinions and we agree if nerf the hard for sake spread normal to hard being better only make spread from hard to insane becomes bad. so the only way we can take is keep the hard diff (u still can keep those 1/2 i told in game its good to go as a hard diff and you can nerf/keep 1/4, it depends on the situation later) but what we have to take is.. you have to map Advanced diff for spread between normal and hard.. its ok i know you dont want to add a diff anymore but we have to do it for a better spread. you can just map it, find 3-5 mods and we will go later

added advanced, no reply = fixed (so basically fix all lol) just waiting on battle and thzz now

Halfslashed

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Halfslashed 8 years ago

No KDs because already modded.

Advanced

00:30:810 (1,2,3) - Can't tell what you're following here. Earlier you were following vocals, which you'd be able to fllow just by shifting these notes a red tick earlier, deleting 00:30:535 (3), and extending 00:31:498 (3) possibly. Right now your current switch to guitar (if it even is that) doesn't make sense.
01:08:791 (2,2) - Gross overlap.
01:10:443 (1,1) - Broken stack.
02:01:360 (2,3,4) - I'm questioning the readability of this for players at this difficulty. Yeah, you've used 1/2 stacks before, but not more than two in one place.
02:38:516 (1,3) - These are really close for no real reason, from what I can tell.

Dunno how you map so well so fast.

Logic Agent

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Logic Agent 8 years ago

replying to mods for battle cause he's ~~lazy~~busy

Xinely wrote:
Normal :
- AR 5? the difference with Hard diff AR is so real advanced is ar6 so i think this is fine
- would you like to use cs 3 or 3,5. ez diff with cs 2 and full of 2/1 somehow is... weird would prefer to just make the easy cs2, if you think it's a problem still
- 01:01:636 (1,2) - swap rhythm i guess? vocal at 01:02:599 - 's feeling is stronger than 01:02:048 - i used a similar rhythm in my diffs, so personally i think this one is okay. the slider works well with the vocals that are starting to fade out leading into the drums
- 01:10:993 - i think you can map this. you mostly follow vocal on previous think he was going for a pause here instead of emphasis on the leadin vocals, which i think works fine
- 01:42:369 (1) - i think you should map 01:42:645 - as well because cymbal appears at that time? i think the 1/1 slider makes it clear this isn't mapped to vocals, so it makes the next section that starts with vocals feel different as a new part of the song starts
- 02:15:397 (1) - just suggestion maybe remove this? so the break time will be a real full a break time from start to end. also consistency with the easy diff ok, i think only starting this trend at advanced + is okay
- 03:22:002 - same as prev. you can map the vocal with 2/1 slider here i quite like this break on the bridge, makes give the player some time to enjoy the music, which is why i did it on my diffs as well
- 03:43:470 (4,1) - blanket can improved here fix
- 04:03:287 (3,4) - make better mirror pattern? fix

@halfslashed

Halfslashed wrote:
No KDs because already modded.

Advanced
00:30:810 (1,2,3) - Can't tell what you're following here. Earlier you were following vocals, which you'd be able to fllow just by shifting these notes a red tick earlier, deleting 00:30:535 (3), and extending 00:31:498 (3) possibly. Right now your current switch to guitar (if it even is that) doesn't make sense. changed with something different, this part is suppsoed to be following the guitar as the vocals fade out, but i changed the rhythm that does that to something more familiar
01:08:791 (2,2) - Gross overlap. eh i think it's okay, it cuts through the middle anyhow
01:10:443 (1,1) - Broken stack. fix
02:01:360 (2,3,4) - I'm questioning the readability of this for players at this difficulty. Yeah, you've used 1/2 stacks before, but not more than two in one place. these exist elsewhere in the map, and once before this time so they shouldn't be caught too off guard. there's also a small pause before the 1/2 rhythm so i think it's manageable. we'll see tho
02:38:516 (1,3) - These are really close for no real reason, from what I can tell. just something different with my ds rule

Dunno how you map so well so fast. thannnnnnnnnnnnks

thanks for mods, just waiting on thzz

thzz

579 posts

Joined May 2012

thzz 8 years ago

Xinely wrote:
Insane :
- 03:19:663 (2,3) - the jump to (2) is too sudden makes a surprise imo, try change them like http://puu.sh/to7ja/251b509673.jpg here is the turning point changing pattern from 1/1 to 1/2. i think it's much natural thing to be sudden on such place.

others are all fixed, thank you!

http://puu.sh/tsseF/236e02a5e7.osu

Xinely

5,014 posts

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Xinely 8 years ago

we did 2140917193847193120917241 rechecks until logic agent is die

reburuburu (ノ>∨<)ノ

@next BN : pls check spacings for lowest diffs until advanced i might get fucked and dont forget with 24h

Logic Agent

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Topic Starter

Logic Agent 8 years ago

found a better mp3, self popping.

Xinely

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Joined April 2012

Xinely 8 years ago

Xinely wrote:
reburuburu (ノ>∨<)ノ

@next BN : pls check spacings for lowest diffs until advanced i might get fucked and dont forget with 24h

sahuang

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sahuang 8 years ago

Disable all widescreen support.

[Beginner]

00:38:500 (1) - this shape is fine in harder diffs like hyper or above. But since it's beginner/easy...the path isa bit vague tbh with big cs, i prefer changing it to a clearer one.
01:33:546 (1,1) - such kind of stack should be avoided in beginner
01:41:253 (1,1) - also here, even the slider body is partly blocked by previous slider.
02:08:775 (3) - the slider seems to have ignored many things lol, maybe end it 02:09:876 - and add a 1/1 reverse slider 02:10:427 -
02:32:996 (3,5) - avoid stacking

Normal is fine.

[Advanced]

01:44:005 (1) - cancel NC
03:36:849 (1,1) - why stack and why nc here?
Too many NC spam I should say, you can totally do like normal and NC every 8 white lines lol

[Hard]

00:54:464 (2) - use 2 1/2 sliders for consistency?Also there's vocal 00:54:876 - so should be distinguished from 00:53:913 (1) - (like 00:58:867 (2,3) - )
01:57:216 (2) - 02:06:023 (2) - same
02:23:913 (3) - NC?
02:25:702 (1) - cancel NC
03:35:748 - should probably make it clickable

[Insane]

01:19:922 (2,1) - ds seems to close?especially comparing 01:19:785 (1,2,1) -
03:26:803 (1,2,3) - consistent with 03:35:748 (1,2) - ?
03:48:546 (1) - why NC
02:58:592 (1) - cancel NC (04:10:977 (1,2) - )

~~Continue later~~ Another is fine.

thzz
00:41:390 (2,3) - ctrl+g? this may express music better.
03:04:922 - drag break here

tog
01:40:977 (5,6,1) - this jump's a bit too big, the music is actually going down
02:55:840 (5,6,1) - same
02:56:803 (4,2) - stack 4 with 2?the jump is also too big
03:22:537 - hmm drag break here?
04:07:124 (3,4) - nerf

should be all

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