what am i doing with my life....
but srsly, this is a pretty nice map and a lot of effort went into making this and trying to improve it so i hope the next people can also have a look at it.
About the 1/6 in the streams i feel like they are all justified by sounds in the music and don't need to be removed therefore.
irc2016-11-06 11:32 Chocola_2287: oh hi
2016-11-06 11:32 Chromoxx: hi
2016-11-06 11:32 Chromoxx: yeah i should have time now
2016-11-06 11:32 Chromoxx: might be cutting it a bit close, but w/e
2016-11-06 11:32 Chocola_2287: ye
2016-11-06 11:33 Chocola_2287: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/956273 Sampling Masters MEGA & Tatsh - Weave Detonator]
2016-11-06 11:33 Chocola_2287: but I use tnt skin for mapping
2016-11-06 11:33 Chocola_2287: using other skin might have different effect
2016-11-06 11:34 Chocola_2287: I thought there are someone who advised me to use another pattern for the beginning
2016-11-06 11:34 Chocola_2287: ye...skylish did
2016-11-06 11:34 Chocola_2287: ddkkdkdd -> dkkdkddk
2016-11-06 11:36 Chromoxx: 00:58:529 - i'd suggest changing this to d d k
2016-11-06 11:36 Chromoxx: since the sound here is different to the last triplet like this
2016-11-06 11:36 Chromoxx: 01:01:195 - same here, or tbh k k k would fit better for this one imo
2016-11-06 11:37 Chocola_2287: actually I use dkd to maintain 1/1 d rhythm
2016-11-06 11:37 Chocola_2287: notice every 1/1 interval, I use d only
2016-11-06 11:37 Chromoxx: k
2016-11-06 11:37 Chocola_2287: to emphasis the rhythm
2016-11-06 11:38 Chocola_2287: this is also sth ono suggested
2016-11-06 11:38 Chromoxx: yeah, it's ok
2016-11-06 11:38 Chromoxx: no serious issue, was just something i thought might be cool
2016-11-06 11:39 Chromoxx: 02:22:529 - this stream seems good now
2016-11-06 11:40 Chocola_2287: maybe...
2016-11-06 11:40 Chromoxx: 02:42:195 (186,187) - ctrl G these, pitch goes down here
2016-11-06 11:40 Chocola_2287: but without 1/6s I feel that the emphasis level is stil a bit low
2016-11-06 11:40 Chromoxx: also smoother transition into the next 1/6 quad
2016-11-06 11:40 Chromoxx: nah, the emphasis in the stream is good tbh, it's a lot cleaner
2016-11-06 11:41 Chocola_2287: 02:42:195 : would choke players easily I think?
2016-11-06 11:41 Chocola_2287: suddenly from d kkk d kkk.... to d kkk k d
2016-11-06 11:41 Chocola_2287: but the main point is, 02:40:862 (176,177) - I use d k too
2016-11-06 11:42 Chocola_2287: yea, I will consider about that
2016-11-06 11:42 Chromoxx: d k doesn't fit the music though
2016-11-06 11:43 Chromoxx: and it also plays smoother since the transition from d to (kddk) is smoother than k (kddk)
2016-11-06 11:43 Chocola_2287: oh, ok
2016-11-06 11:43 Chromoxx: or you could also do d d
2016-11-06 11:43 Chocola_2287: changed
2016-11-06 11:44 Chromoxx: which wouldn't trip people up as much maybe, since the note after the kkk is still a d
2016-11-06 11:44 Chocola_2287: yea, would be good too
2016-11-06 11:44 Chocola_2287: ok
2016-11-06 11:44 Chromoxx: 02:46:612 - the doublets in this part are still a bit off
2016-11-06 11:44 Chromoxx: the main thing prompting doublets here is the main melody, which is heard very clearly, but the doubles sometimes contradict it
2016-11-06 11:45 Chromoxx: the main sounds of the music land on the second note of the doubles, but you aren't following the pitches properly
2016-11-06 11:45 Chocola_2287: I am checking the pitch change places..
2016-11-06 11:46 Chocola_2287: from what I heard, 02:46:529 (226,227) - and 02:47:862 (238,239) - are different
2016-11-06 11:46 Chocola_2287: 02:46:612 (227) - this place has pitch change whereas 02:47:945- doesn't
2016-11-06 11:46 Chromoxx: i'm not talking about the pattern arrangement
2016-11-06 11:46 Chromoxx: i'm talking about the colors
2016-11-06 11:47 Chocola_2287: whats wrong with color
2016-11-06 11:48 Chromoxx: 02:46:529 - this one basically follows a k d k d pitch change, but the doubles aren't emphasizing it
2016-11-06 11:48 Chromoxx: kk dd kk ddwould be perfect here imo
2016-11-06 11:48 Chromoxx: or kd dd kk dd
2016-11-06 11:48 Chocola_2287: oh
2016-11-06 11:49 Chocola_2287: for me, 02:47:029 (230,231) - and 02:47:279 (232,233) - are both decreasing pitch so I used kd for both
2016-11-06 11:49 Chromoxx: the pitch in the main melody, which is most dominant here is different though and it would give better emphasis that is clearer to follow for the players
2016-11-06 11:49 Chromoxx: and won't trip people up as much
2016-11-06 11:50 Chocola_2287: if I change this, then the upcoming parts have to follow this as well
2016-11-06 11:50 Chocola_2287: for consistency
2016-11-06 11:50 Chocola_2287: well
2016-11-06 11:50 Chromoxx: the upcoming parts have more prominent lower whooshing
2016-11-06 11:50 Chromoxx: except the ones that i'm gonna point out
2016-11-06 11:51 Chocola_2287: so this is the only one I have to change?
2016-11-06 11:51 Chromoxx: no, i'm still gonna point out some others
2016-11-06 11:51 Chromoxx: but you don't have to change all doubles
2016-11-06 11:52 Chocola_2287: oh
2016-11-06 11:52 Chromoxx: 02:50:529 - this would sound better as kd dd kk kk or kk dd kk kk
2016-11-06 11:52 Chromoxx: 02:51:862 - kk dd kk dd
2016-11-06 11:52 Chocola_2287: ye...
2016-11-06 11:52 Chromoxx: or kk dd kk kd
2016-11-06 11:53 Chromoxx: 02:46:529 - this first one would also work as kk dd kk kd if you prefer that pattern to the one i suggested earlier
2016-11-06 11:53 Chocola_2287: Prefer 1st one
2016-11-06 11:54 Chocola_2287: 02:53:195 (286) - same case?
2016-11-06 11:54 Chromoxx: 02:54:529 - and 02:53:195 - are the same yes
2016-11-06 11:55 Chromoxx: 02:56:362 (315,316,317,318) - these should be dk dk since the high pitched sounds land on the second tick, not the first one of the doubles
2016-11-06 11:55 Chromoxx: you also followed it at 02:45:695 -
2016-11-06 11:55 Chocola_2287: alright
2016-11-06 11:56 Chocola_2287: ok, for consistency. accepted
2016-11-06 11:57 Chromoxx: 02:57:195 (322) - this should be k at least, since the high sound lands here or change the whole 2plet pattern to something similar as the ones before
2016-11-06 11:57 Chromoxx: like kk dd kk dd or kk dd kk kd
2016-11-06 11:57 Chocola_2287: 02:57:195 (322) - so I can just copy and paste the 1st half kiai to here?
2016-11-06 11:58 Chocola_2287: except the last whooshing sound
2016-11-06 11:58 Chocola_2287: because 2nd half is basically the same as 1st half
2016-11-06 11:58 Chromoxx: yeah if you want
2016-11-06 11:58 Chromoxx: but sec
2016-11-06 11:58 Chromoxx: 02:51:029 (266,267,268,269) - these can also be dk dk
2016-11-06 11:58 Chromoxx: would sound good
2016-11-06 11:58 Chromoxx: and be consistent
2016-11-06 11:59 Chocola_2287: consistent with which part?
2016-11-06 11:59 Chocola_2287: 02:49:695 (254,255,256,257) - ?
2016-11-06 11:59 Chromoxx: yeah
2016-11-06 11:59 Chromoxx: same sounds basically
2016-11-06 11:59 Chocola_2287: I thought it is 02:45:695 (218,219,220,221) -
2016-11-06 12:00 Chromoxx: yeah same as there too
2016-11-06 12:00 Chocola_2287: alright
2016-11-06 12:00 Chocola_2287: fixed
2016-11-06 12:02 Chocola_2287: 03:11:862 (463) - I found this part extremely hard to make it good
2016-11-06 12:02 Chocola_2287: I can barely find fxs to follow
2016-11-06 12:02 Chromoxx: it seems okay tbh
2016-11-06 12:02 Chromoxx: i don't have any problems with that part
2016-11-06 12:04 Chromoxx: 04:11:695 - i would suggsest just cutting the stream at these spots instead of using the 1/6 as emphasis on the starts, but there is actually 1/6 in the music here so yolo
2016-11-06 12:05 Chocola_2287: I thought there are whooshing sound that allows me to use 1/6??
2016-11-06 12:05 Chromoxx: yes
2016-11-06 12:05 Chromoxx: that's why it's okay
2016-11-06 12:05 Chromoxx: i'm not saying you should change it, i was going to say so, but then i deleted the notes real quick to listen and the soundsd were in the music, so it's good
2016-11-06 12:05 Chromoxx: nothing to complain about ^^
2016-11-06 12:05 Chocola_2287: or can I just make 04:22:529 (497) - onwards deathstream?
2016-11-06 12:06 Chocola_2287: cut the first half of the stream to reduce difficulty, and the second half as challenging part?
2016-11-06 12:06 Chromoxx: you don't need to cut anything
2016-11-06 12:07 Chocola_2287: oh
2016-11-06 12:07 Chromoxx: i mean i don't personally think you need to cut stuff there, cos the sounds are actually there in the music
2016-11-06 12:07 Chromoxx: maybe see what the next BN has to say about it
2016-11-06 12:07 Chocola_2287: ok
2016-11-06 12:08 Chromoxx: okay
2016-11-06 12:08 Chromoxx: please update the map
2016-11-06 12:08 Chromoxx: and i will playtest it a last time
2016-11-06 12:08 Chocola_2287: alright
2016-11-06 12:08 Chocola_2287: doone
2016-11-06 12:08 Chocola_2287: btw
2016-11-06 12:08 Chocola_2287: are you fine with HP5
2016-11-06 12:08 Chromoxx: ye, HP5 is ok
2016-11-06 12:09 Chocola_2287: some recommended 4 lol
2016-11-06 12:09 Chromoxx: while i'm testplaying it would be dope if you could give me an official source of the metadata
2016-11-06 12:09 Chromoxx: map is only 5min
2016-11-06 12:09 Chromoxx: hp5 is k
2016-11-06 12:09 Chocola_2287: KwaN checked it already
2016-11-06 12:09 Chocola_2287: meta
2016-11-06 12:09 Chromoxx: ok we good
2016-11-06 12:09 Chocola_2287: so there's no problem
2016-11-06 12:09 Chocola_2287: I'll spec lol
2016-11-06 12:15 Chocola_2287: gg
2016-11-06 12:15 Chocola_2287: HD is harder than HR for this I guess
2016-11-06 12:15 Chromoxx: ok HP4 would be better
2016-11-06 12:15 Chromoxx: the last stream kills too much with hp5 tbh
2016-11-06 12:16 Chocola_2287: nvm, I dont mind HP4 actually, but HP5 for extra difficulty
2016-11-06 12:16 Chromoxx: ye
2016-11-06 12:16 Chromoxx: also one more thing i think
2016-11-06 12:16 Chocola_2287: yes?
2016-11-06 12:17 Chromoxx: ok nvm
2016-11-06 12:17 Chromoxx: it's ok
2016-11-06 12:17 Chocola_2287: [http://puu.sh/s80vP/5867dce70f.png do I need to care about this?]
2016-11-06 12:18 Chocola_2287: (from aimod
2016-11-06 12:18 Chromoxx: oh no
2016-11-06 12:18 Chromoxx: this is a very serious issue
2016-11-06 12:18 Chromoxx: i will have to nuke this mapset, sorry
2016-11-06 12:18 Chromoxx: (just kidding lol, no need to worry)
2016-11-06 12:18 Chocola_2287: what
2016-11-06 12:19 Chocola_2287: damn, I personally dont like ppl joking in a serious chat
2016-11-06 12:20 Chromoxx: lol
2016-11-06 12:20 Chocola_2287: alright, updated
2016-11-06 12:21 Chromoxx: okay
2016-11-06 12:21 Chromoxx: lemme just post irc log and bubble this XD
2016-11-06 12:22 Chocola_2287: lol, thanks a lot