2016-11-10 00:59 -himei: hi! i would like to ask you for help with my map. it has 100 sp and 30 mods. basically BNs are saying that its not ready for ranking yet, tho they are not saying why.
2016-11-10 00:59 Doyak: Okay let me see (though I won't icon)
2016-11-10 00:59 -himei: also im getting a lot of positive responses from people, and they are wondering why is it not ranked.
2016-11-10 00:59 -himei: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1056987 Arzest - Enemy]
2016-11-10 01:09 Doyak: alright
2016-11-10 01:09 Doyak: here's the summary
2016-11-10 01:09 Doyak: Sometimes you did make great patterns
2016-11-10 01:09 Doyak: but other than that, the whole map is almost full of random jumps
2016-11-10 01:10 -himei: they are not random tho
2016-11-10 01:10 -himei: can u turn ar 5 on?
2016-11-10 01:10 -himei: it has linear structure most of the times
2016-11-10 01:10 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 01:10 -himei: ill show you
2016-11-10 01:12 Doyak: I mean it's random in 2 ways
2016-11-10 01:12 Doyak: the placement is random "except some good parts"
2016-11-10 01:12 -himei:
http://puu.sh/scuWf/25f90022c6.jpg2016-11-10 01:12 Doyak: also you put jumps everywhere even when the song isn't calling for it
2016-11-10 01:12 Doyak: well
2016-11-10 01:13 Doyak: the thing you showed me is about
2016-11-10 01:13 Doyak: the flow
2016-11-10 01:13 Doyak: flow != pattern
2016-11-10 01:13 -himei: uh there are a lot of similar places. well i think you are telling me about this part right?01:52:100 (1) - ?
2016-11-10 01:13 Doyak: Yes
2016-11-10 01:14 Doyak: that stroke me so hard
2016-11-10 01:14 -himei: these jumps, yea i dont really know how to map this, cuz it was mapped to the voice line
2016-11-10 01:14 -himei: and people told me that its super undermapped and boring itself
2016-11-10 01:15 -himei: so i changed that to something more playable and you know
2016-11-10 01:15 -himei: faster
2016-11-10 01:16 Doyak: still I don't think it represents the song better in any way
2016-11-10 01:16 -himei: is this the only part that is really bad?
2016-11-10 01:16 Doyak: all you did is just consistent moving
2016-11-10 01:16 Doyak: uhh
2016-11-10 01:16 Doyak: I'll point more parts out
2016-11-10 01:16 Doyak: 02:40:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - how does this 1/4 stream make sense?
2016-11-10 01:17 -himei: uh
2016-11-10 01:17 -himei: hmm
2016-11-10 01:17 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 01:18 -himei: lmao yea youre right
2016-11-10 01:19 Doyak: 03:33:072 (4,6) - how would you justify these jumps?
2016-11-10 01:20 Doyak: What I feel from these jumps on kiais, is that it's not following anything
2016-11-10 01:20 Doyak: because the strong bass sounds are only on white ticks, and what-it-is-called melody sounds are not full 1/2 jumps
2016-11-10 01:20 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 01:20 Doyak: so what you're following is not certain
2016-11-10 01:21 -himei: yes i agree
2016-11-10 01:22 -himei: uh actually idk how did i miss that
2016-11-10 01:23 Doyak: 03:36:672 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) -
2016-11-10 01:23 Doyak: let me ask
2016-11-10 01:24 Doyak: if I ask you for some logic behind this placement
2016-11-10 01:24 Doyak: then you may say "03:37:057 (5,8,3) - is linear"?
2016-11-10 01:24 Doyak: or 03:37:186 (6,8,2) - is linear?
2016-11-10 01:24 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 01:25 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 01:25 -himei: i was thinking about that when i mapped it
2016-11-10 01:25 Doyak: then I'd say, it lacks logic
2016-11-10 01:25 Doyak: you kinda have one, but that's not well-done
2016-11-10 01:25 -himei: i know its overmapped there
2016-11-10 01:25 -himei: you showed me this xd
2016-11-10 01:25 Doyak: I'm not talking about overmap here
2016-11-10 01:26 Doyak: as I said, the map contains random jumps in 2 ways
2016-11-10 01:26 Doyak: one is about overmaps we talked about before
2016-11-10 01:26 Doyak: and now, the placement logic
2016-11-10 01:26 -himei: well if i wasnt overmapping it by 1/4 i would make a consistent thing with sliders i guess...
2016-11-10 01:27 -himei: yea i understand
2016-11-10 01:27 -himei: thanks
2016-11-10 01:27 Doyak: now you got this
2016-11-10 01:27 Doyak: Well then, good luck with your mapping!
2016-11-10 01:28 -himei: uh wait
2016-11-10 01:28 -himei: thats all?
2016-11-10 01:28 -himei: so the only problematic part is
2016-11-10 01:29 Doyak: oh you want more examples?
2016-11-10 01:29 -himei: well, its actually like
2016-11-10 01:29 -himei: 30% of the map
2016-11-10 01:29 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 01:29 -himei: please
2016-11-10 01:29 Doyak: well these repeat themselves actually
2016-11-10 01:29 -himei: 30% is more than enough for me to remap xd
2016-11-10 01:30 -himei: just give me the timings of bad things, if its not hard plz ;w;
2016-11-10 01:30 Doyak: I think the map needs general improvement actually...
2016-11-10 01:30 -himei: in what way?
2016-11-10 01:30 Doyak: more reasonable patterning?
2016-11-10 01:31 -himei: well i think the first 50% are decent
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: and structure
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: 00:33:929 (1,2,3,4) -
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: until here it was pretty good
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: now see that 4 notes
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: the only 'clear' 1/2 sounds are
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: only on 1-2-3
2016-11-10 01:31 Doyak: but not 4
2016-11-10 01:32 Doyak: the sound is more related to other 1/2 sliders
2016-11-10 01:32 -himei: yea true thanks
2016-11-10 01:32 Doyak: hence I don't think it deserves same kind of jump as 2
2016-11-10 01:32 Doyak: same goes for 00:35:814 (3) -
2016-11-10 01:32 -himei: hmm
2016-11-10 01:33 -himei: tho if i remove that
2016-11-10 01:33 Doyak: if you want to add more jumps than probably 00:36:843 - is better
2016-11-10 01:33 -himei: it will be very slow and boring
2016-11-10 01:33 Doyak: 00:37:186 (3) - doesn't fit as well
2016-11-10 01:33 Doyak: you can find some actual good 1/2 beats to make them clickable
2016-11-10 01:33 Doyak: but not randomly
2016-11-10 01:33 -himei: yea ty
2016-11-10 01:33 Doyak: 00:37:872 (3) - is a good jump since it has a swoosh sound
2016-11-10 01:34 -himei: i understand the rest of this section
2016-11-10 01:34 -himei: you can move forward
2016-11-10 01:34 -himei: xd
2016-11-10 01:34 Doyak: okay
2016-11-10 01:35 Doyak: by general improvement I mean
2016-11-10 01:35 Doyak: 00:54:500 (1,2,3,4) - already randomly-placed
2016-11-10 01:35 -himei: uh
2016-11-10 01:35 Doyak: 01:02:729 (1,2,3,4) - the tention gets intense, but why does this have smaller movement than 01:01:357 (1,2,3,4) - ?
2016-11-10 01:36 Doyak: actually if you want a full 1/2 click part, this is a good one
2016-11-10 01:36 -himei: yea ty
2016-11-10 01:37 Doyak: the rhythm of the first kiai seems good
2016-11-10 01:37 -himei: 01:10:957 (1) - is this a good pattern?
2016-11-10 01:37 Doyak: but I don't see much of patterning on the whole part
2016-11-10 01:37 -himei: cuz its not emphasizes
2016-11-10 01:37 -himei: the music
2016-11-10 01:37 -himei: it doesnt*
2016-11-10 01:38 Doyak: better if you can emphasize it in some way
2016-11-10 01:38 Doyak: there's no 'correct answer' in mapping
2016-11-10 01:38 Doyak: that's why you can always aim for the better
2016-11-10 01:38 Doyak: no ultimate answer
2016-11-10 01:39 -himei: i would keep it tho im not certain about it. like, the melody is reversed to the patter, it should be getting smaller with the sound
2016-11-10 01:39 -himei: yea well i always tried to improve this
2016-11-10 01:39 Doyak: 01:10:957 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - is actually pretty good
2016-11-10 01:39 Doyak: but about the others uhh
2016-11-10 01:40 Doyak: you can't tell me much of logic behind them
2016-11-10 01:40 Doyak: I mean, the placement
2016-11-10 01:40 Doyak: 01:21:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - good enough
2016-11-10 01:40 Doyak: 01:26:043 (1) - this slider is a bit weird
2016-11-10 01:41 Doyak: because this is a
2016-11-10 01:41 Doyak: how should I call it
2016-11-10 01:41 Doyak: start of a new section
2016-11-10 01:41 Doyak: as a downbeat
2016-11-10 01:41 -himei: yea i understand
2016-11-10 01:42 Doyak: you used full 1/2 circles after this
2016-11-10 01:42 Doyak: so having only this one as a slider doesn't make much sense
2016-11-10 01:42 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 01:43 Doyak: 01:40:272 (2,3) - I wonder if you wanted to represent those strange voice with this
2016-11-10 01:44 -himei: yes lol
2016-11-10 01:44 -himei: i was uncertain about the second note
2016-11-10 01:44 Doyak: That doesn't seem working nicely for me though
2016-11-10 01:44 -himei: and theres no good sound under it
2016-11-10 01:44 Doyak: Can you consider those second ones as a proper 'beat'?
2016-11-10 01:44 -himei: yea im not certain about it either
2016-11-10 01:44 Doyak: then making it clickable doesn't make much sense
2016-11-10 01:45 -himei: +
2016-11-10 01:45 Doyak: you can always try sliders for that
2016-11-10 01:45 Doyak: also it ends much earlier than 1/2
2016-11-10 01:45 Doyak: I don't know how others might think about this
2016-11-10 01:45 Doyak: but using a 1/4 slider or something
2016-11-10 01:45 Doyak: makes much more sense to me
2016-11-10 01:45 -himei: well natsu said its ok
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: sonnyc didnt say anything about it
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: and other bns... i dont remember
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: well yea ill remap it tho i dont really know
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: how to make it entertaining
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: its bascially slider>note
2016-11-10 01:46 -himei: which is dull
2016-11-10 01:47 Doyak: lmao I don't know how to map this kind of song even
2016-11-10 01:47 Doyak: I only map songs with very clear beats
2016-11-10 01:48 Doyak: also the hardest map I've ever made is 5.5*
2016-11-10 01:48 Doyak: doesn't really know how 6+ star map works
2016-11-10 01:48 -himei: yea man i got the undertanding that it was a bad call to map this as a first map
2016-11-10 01:48 -himei: tho ive spent too much time on it to just you know
2016-11-10 01:48 -himei: let it go
2016-11-10 01:48 -himei: ;w;
2016-11-10 01:49 Doyak: hmm
2016-11-10 01:49 Doyak: if you really like this to be ranked
2016-11-10 01:49 -himei: that was my full vacation ;w; like 200 hours or so
2016-11-10 01:49 -himei: yea i do
2016-11-10 01:49 Doyak: then I might advise you to... pause this for the time being
2016-11-10 01:49 Doyak: even if you manage to rank this somehow
2016-11-10 01:50 Doyak: I think you'll regret it in the future
2016-11-10 01:50 Doyak: "I could have made this better with improved skill..." like thing
2016-11-10 01:50 -himei: uh... i dont really consider to map anything with such input in the future
2016-11-10 01:50 -himei: cuz of irl life
2016-11-10 01:50 Doyak: You don't really need to put too much input on others
2016-11-10 01:50 -himei: it was my hard attempt to do something good lol
2016-11-10 01:50 Doyak: I mean, you just need to improve your skill
2016-11-10 01:51 Doyak: to make this even better in the future
2016-11-10 01:51 -himei: well i can tell you that
2016-11-10 01:51 Doyak: You already had pretty good experience I think
2016-11-10 01:51 -himei: ive remapped this like
2016-11-10 01:51 -himei: 5 times at least
2016-11-10 01:51 -himei: the whole song
2016-11-10 01:51 -himei: ofc it was part by part
2016-11-10 01:51 Doyak: That's a hard thing yeah I know
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: >good experience
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: not really
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: as i said its my first map
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: tho ive read a lot of guides before started
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: videos etc. well also it gets me sad
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: when i see something like
2016-11-10 01:52 -himei: haitai getting ranked
2016-11-10 01:53 -himei: with like
2016-11-10 01:53 -himei: a note with no sounds under it
2016-11-10 01:53 -himei: which is clear overmapping which is unrankable
2016-11-10 01:53 Doyak: overmapping is not unrankable
2016-11-10 01:53 Doyak: but you need to explain reasonably
2016-11-10 01:53 Doyak: that it represents the music better in the map's design
2016-11-10 01:54 Doyak: though I know a lot of maps out there are being ranked
2016-11-10 01:54 Doyak: with so many flaws
2016-11-10 01:54 -himei: ACTION is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/994495 Ayase Rie - Yuima-ru*World TVver. [Ultimate]]
2016-11-10 01:54 -himei: 00:38:892 (1) -
2016-11-10 01:54 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 01:55 Doyak: oh it's that Fycho map
2016-11-10 01:55 -himei: yea but
2016-11-10 01:55 -himei: theres clearly
2016-11-10 01:55 Doyak: it has a sound though
2016-11-10 01:55 -himei: NO sound under that note
2016-11-10 01:55 Doyak: it has
2016-11-10 01:55 -himei: what
2016-11-10 01:55 Doyak: a drum is under that note
2016-11-10 01:56 -himei: hm
2016-11-10 01:56 Doyak: ah
2016-11-10 01:56 Doyak: not a drum
2016-11-10 01:56 Doyak: but has a sound
2016-11-10 01:56 -himei: hmm yea its strange cuz i was 100% sure that it hasnt
2016-11-10 01:56 -himei: yesterday
2016-11-10 01:56 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: well yea tho
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: are you done with my map?
2016-11-10 01:57 Doyak: it's hard to listen to realize that there's a sound
2016-11-10 01:57 Doyak: you still want more? xD
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: we are stopped at
2016-11-10 01:57 Doyak: it's basically repeating
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: well the way of my thinkng is
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: i get a list of TODO
2016-11-10 01:57 -himei: and i following it step by step
2016-11-10 01:58 -himei: so when i receiving something like "well.. its still not that good" it gets me super badly
2016-11-10 01:58 -himei: ;w;
2016-11-10 01:58 Doyak: you're making me fully mod this, aren't you? xDDD
2016-11-10 01:58 Doyak: even though I'm closed with mods atm
2016-11-10 01:59 -himei: 02:16:100 (1) - what about this
2016-11-10 01:59 -himei: LOL
2016-11-10 01:59 -himei: well ...
2016-11-10 01:59 -himei: you said its not about icon
2016-11-10 01:59 Doyak: Yeah
2016-11-10 01:59 Doyak: because I won't fully check it lol
2016-11-10 02:00 Doyak: nothing wrong with 02:16:100 (1) - imo
2016-11-10 02:00 Doyak: kinda weird you dind't put NC on 02:16:786 (5) - though
2016-11-10 02:00 Doyak: also
2016-11-10 02:00 -himei: 02:19:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - i think this is bad
2016-11-10 02:01 Doyak: 02:16:100 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - not all of these have equal strength
2016-11-10 02:01 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 02:01 Doyak: yet you put it in a single pentagon jump
2016-11-10 02:01 Doyak: 02:19:529 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - does seem weird
2016-11-10 02:01 Doyak: but well
2016-11-10 02:02 Doyak: as I said the whole map can be improved in terms of placement
2016-11-10 02:02 -himei: i think it should be like sliders or so
2016-11-10 02:02 -himei: i mean
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: jumps arent good here, i just did that ... idk even
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: i was mad when some one said that its a dull part
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: so yea... xd
2016-11-10 02:03 Doyak: The best map you can make is
2016-11-10 02:03 Doyak: the map you can explain all by yourself
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: well you know, my mindset was to make this map enjoyable
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: like
2016-11-10 02:03 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 02:04 Doyak: "why this note is here and what it wants to represent"
2016-11-10 02:05 -himei: well i gave up on this map like 2 weeks ago
2016-11-10 02:05 -himei: after some drama in that thread
2016-11-10 02:05 -himei: tho today i was watching hellblinde, the osu! streamer
2016-11-10 02:05 Doyak: with Frostmourne?
2016-11-10 02:05 -himei: frostxe yea
2016-11-10 02:06 -himei: uh btw
2016-11-10 02:06 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 02:06 -himei:
https://puu.sh/s2cit/38425f26f7.png2016-11-10 02:06 -himei: hes a good guy probably
2016-11-10 02:06 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 02:07 Doyak: lol
2016-11-10 02:07 Doyak: he recently had some trouble with Lasse iirc
2016-11-10 02:07 Doyak: but he's generally okay
2016-11-10 02:07 -himei: so today i was watching some osu stream and that guy told me that my map is good, and it inspired to me keep on fighting over it xd
2016-11-10 02:07 -himei:
https://www.twitch.tv/helblinde/v/99962773?t=31m45s2016-11-10 02:07 -himei: if you want
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: hmm I don't really trust "players" saying certain map is good xD
2016-11-10 02:09 -himei: well its not only him
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: my first few ranked maps are shitty
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: still they have high user rating
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: my recent maps are much better
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: not much change
2016-11-10 02:09 -himei: the most responses are very positive, ive asked like 50 players from top100 to check it out
2016-11-10 02:09 -himei: anyways
2016-11-10 02:09 -himei: so...
2016-11-10 02:09 -himei: sec
2016-11-10 02:09 Doyak: people like nyan nyan drive
2016-11-10 02:10 Doyak: they like jump practice maps
2016-11-10 02:10 Doyak: they like deathstream practice maps
2016-11-10 02:10 -himei: hmm
2016-11-10 02:10 -himei: true
2016-11-10 02:10 -himei: but like
2016-11-10 02:10 -himei: theres a clear difference
2016-11-10 02:10 -himei: when you make a anime opening song like a jump practice
2016-11-10 02:11 -himei: or you make a hardbass song that well.. can be represented as a jump map
2016-11-10 02:11 -himei: in my opinion
2016-11-10 02:11 Doyak: I mean, if one can make it fit the music then it's okay
2016-11-10 02:11 Doyak: but players generally don't consider these things
2016-11-10 02:12 -himei: well i did that mistake when i tried to map this for playability only
2016-11-10 02:12 Doyak: some can like random maps but that's not a well-constructed map
2016-11-10 02:12 -himei: and i sacrificed some logical aspects
2016-11-10 02:13 Doyak: hmm have you talked with Sonnyc?
2016-11-10 02:13 -himei: and now im about to change it to the mapper-view side
2016-11-10 02:13 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 02:13 Doyak: I think he'll be happy to explain you things
2016-11-10 02:13 -himei: like a month ago
2016-11-10 02:13 -himei: hmm we were talking about my map in general
2016-11-10 02:13 Doyak: (he's better at English than me too xD)
2016-11-10 02:13 -himei: tho he just showed me the parts he liked
2016-11-10 02:14 -himei: and said i should map something else
2016-11-10 02:14 -himei: which is a good advise
2016-11-10 02:14 -himei: tho i do not have time to map something else
2016-11-10 02:14 -himei: it just too hard to map something with 5 min drain time
2016-11-10 02:16 -himei: alright can we finish this plz? 02:23:643 (1) - this part is it a good way to represent that melody? i feels like tripplets/reversed sliders are ok, but its overmapped
2016-11-10 02:16 Doyak: urgh wait a sec
2016-11-10 02:16 -himei: uh, not really
2016-11-10 02:16 Doyak: I'm talking with like 4 people atm
2016-11-10 02:16 -himei: okay i need 5 min to order some food too
2016-11-10 02:19 Doyak: the 1/4s are not overmapped
2016-11-10 02:19 Doyak: I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be actual 1/4s
2016-11-10 02:21 Doyak: but 02:35:215 (3,5) - is overmapped
2016-11-10 02:21 -himei: are you sure
2016-11-10 02:22 -himei: uh wait
2016-11-10 02:22 Doyak: actually I don't hear anything on 02:35:129 (2) - either
2016-11-10 02:22 -himei: i think theres a sound, try to listen with 25%
2016-11-10 02:22 Doyak: oh yeah
2016-11-10 02:22 -himei: its like
2016-11-10 02:22 Doyak: very tiny sound...
2016-11-10 02:22 Doyak: then there's another problem
2016-11-10 02:23 -himei: paaaaaaam, pam-pam, paaaaaaam, pam-pam
2016-11-10 02:23 Doyak: 02:34:957 (1,2) - why is this such a big spacing?
2016-11-10 02:23 -himei: because i didnt know where to put that note
2016-11-10 02:24 Doyak: I think
2016-11-10 02:24 -himei: theres no logical place after 02:34:615 (7) -
2016-11-10 02:24 Doyak: you'd better try putting notes closer when the sound is not strong
2016-11-10 02:25 Doyak: A map should have its basic 'spacing'
2016-11-10 02:25 Doyak: it doesn't mean you should fix ds
2016-11-10 02:25 -himei: yea i understand
2016-11-10 02:25 Doyak: but it can help with the map's structure
2016-11-10 02:25 Doyak: I think you have watched pishifat's videos too then?
2016-11-10 02:25 -himei: ofc
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: all of them
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: tho as you said
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: theres no bold rules in mapping
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: so i used that rule in that case
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: 02:57:929 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - this is my biggest concern
2016-11-10 02:26 -himei: its like i should
2016-11-10 02:27 -himei: 02:58:357 - map this sounds
2016-11-10 02:27 -himei: instead of jumps
2016-11-10 02:28 -himei: damn ... im thinking of rempping the whole thing now
2016-11-10 02:28 -himei: ;w;
2016-11-10 02:28 -himei: its just way too bad
2016-11-10 02:28 Doyak: You don't need to map every 1/4s
2016-11-10 02:29 Doyak: if you feel it doesn't deserved to be mapped
2016-11-10 02:29 Doyak: like that one is really tiny and vague sound
2016-11-10 02:29 Doyak: if you think not mapping it represents the song better
2016-11-10 02:29 Doyak: then go for it
2016-11-10 02:29 Doyak: you have your reason here
2016-11-10 02:32 Doyak: 03:02:643 (3,5) -
2016-11-10 02:32 Doyak: "oh it's not overmap" you might say
2016-11-10 02:32 -himei: yes
2016-11-10 02:33 Doyak: what I'm gonna say about this is
2016-11-10 02:33 Doyak: 03:01:957 (7) -
2016-11-10 02:33 Doyak: see the similarity and difference?
2016-11-10 02:33 -himei: uhhh
2016-11-10 02:33 -himei: yea
2016-11-10 02:33 -himei: its a different sound
2016-11-10 02:33 Doyak: You used exact same pattern
2016-11-10 02:34 Doyak: but one is a clear drum sound
2016-11-10 02:34 Doyak: and others are vague sounds
2016-11-10 02:34 -himei: yea ill r3m3p
2016-11-10 02:38 -himei: wait so 03:21:243 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - did you say anything about this at the beggining? i dont remember. so basically you said that it shouldnt be like 1/4 jumps, cuz the bas is only on white ticks
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: Yes
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: if you don't have anything to represent on the red ticks
2016-11-10 02:39 -himei: ok
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: then using same kind of jump over and over again doesn't make sense
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: it's just about
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: explaing stuff by yourself
2016-11-10 02:39 Doyak: if you cannot, then it's probably wrong
2016-11-10 02:40 -himei: i think there should be a sliders on red ticks that are finishes on blue ones xd
2016-11-10 02:40 -himei: alright im about to stop poking you for now xd
2016-11-10 02:40 -himei: ty for your time
2016-11-10 02:41 Doyak: woo finally releasing me
2016-11-10 02:41 -himei: uh also it'll be good if you post this on the forums so ppl will know that im not done yeat
2016-11-10 02:41 -himei: yet*
2016-11-10 02:41 Doyak: okay good luck!
2016-11-10 02:41 Doyak: sure
2016-11-10 02:41 Doyak: I can get a kudosu as well so why not xD
2016-11-10 02:42 -himei: are you working by your mod queue
2016-11-10 02:42 -himei: or?
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: I don't have queue
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: I just uhh
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: announce on my userpage
2016-11-10 02:42 -himei: im not sure how can i ask you for recheck this, probably in 1-2 months
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: so that only those who really want my mod can get it
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: but
2016-11-10 02:42 -himei: uh
2016-11-10 02:42 Doyak: I don't nominate 6+ star maps
2016-11-10 02:42 -himei: so i was the lucky one
2016-11-10 02:43 -himei: xd
2016-11-10 02:43 -himei: it wont be 6
2016-11-10 02:43 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 02:43 -himei: wait why
2016-11-10 02:43 Doyak: as I said it's still technically closed
2016-11-10 02:43 -himei: even for next few months?
2016-11-10 02:43 Doyak: well
2016-11-10 02:43 Doyak: recently there has been Loctav's saying
2016-11-10 02:44 -himei: ill finish this at the end of the december i guess
2016-11-10 02:44 Doyak: "do not moninate maps you can't play"
2016-11-10 02:44 Doyak: I can't play this
2016-11-10 02:44 -himei: are you sure you cant play it
2016-11-10 02:44 -himei: LOL
2016-11-10 02:44 -himei: u got 5.7k pp
2016-11-10 02:44 -himei: anyways
2016-11-10 02:44 Doyak: yeah but I have one 6+ star FC
2016-11-10 02:44 Doyak: which is Midnight Siege
2016-11-10 02:44 Doyak: only extreme streams
2016-11-10 02:45 -himei: so technically
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: nothing else
2016-11-10 02:45 -himei: its possible
2016-11-10 02:45 -himei: lol
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: nah
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: I can't even FC jumpy 5.5 star maps
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: 6 star is barely passable
2016-11-10 02:45 -himei: play =/= fc?
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: also more important thing is
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: that I quit playing
2016-11-10 02:45 Doyak: like a year ago
2016-11-10 02:45 -himei: ok i got this
2016-11-10 02:46 -himei: i guess ill just ask you for recheck with no icon, just like today lol
2016-11-10 02:46 -himei: will find someone else to give an icon
2016-11-10 02:46 -himei: tho i was about to offer money to ppl
2016-11-10 02:46 -himei: to actually help with this
2016-11-10 02:46 Doyak: lol money
2016-11-10 02:47 -himei: it doesnt really matter how much
2016-11-10 02:47 -himei: like 100$
2016-11-10 02:47 -himei: or so
2016-11-10 02:47 -himei: i mean, bns arent getting paid right
2016-11-10 02:47 Doyak: We're pure volunteers
2016-11-10 02:47 -himei: tho i think that their work should be payabble
2016-11-10 02:48 -himei: cuz they making maps rankable = game getting more ppl in it buy playing good maps
2016-11-10 02:48 -himei: so peppy gets more money from supporters
2016-11-10 02:48 Doyak: hmm it would be great if so
2016-11-10 02:48 Doyak: but that requires a whole change in the current system
2016-11-10 02:48 Doyak: so yeah
2016-11-10 02:48 -himei: so i think that it would be understandable if i donate something
2016-11-10 02:48 -himei: but well
2016-11-10 02:49 -himei: nobody accepted it
2016-11-10 02:49 -himei: lmao
2016-11-10 02:49 -himei: yea i know
2016-11-10 02:49 -himei: alright
2016-11-10 02:49 -himei: thanks for your time and advises
2016-11-10 02:49 Doyak: okay good luck with your map~
2016-11-10 02:50 -himei: will use them for good, and help others