taiko is fun
you don't need mouse to play so it saves money B)
you don't need mouse to play so it saves money B)
10 minuspoints for misleading threadtitle then.Railey2 wrote:
I never took a guess as to why exactly it is the way it is
thisN0thingSpecial wrote:
Mouse is a preference cause I'm a cheap ass hoe that doesn't want a tablet in addition to my gaming mouse
Add me to the list, 3 weeks and I still was far from my mouse skill level. People don't talk about it because there is shame associated with buying a peripheral you didn't improve with plus the community mentality that tablet is better.Railey2 wrote:
You'd be the first person I know who tried to play with tablet for a long period of time and failed. It seems rather uncommon.
My hand gets sore where it meets the surface of the desk for tablet too if I play long enough.Houtarou Oreki wrote:
It took me one month to get used to tablet. The worst thing in mices for me is the contact with desk/mousepad, it's really uncomfortable imo.
This thread is better than 99% of the usual G&R threads because it actually provokes a discussion.LoliPantsu wrote:
the thread is retarded imo, if someone can get to #1 using mouse then mouse players shouldnt be discouraged at all
I don't think quality threads need to be locked if the flames haven't sprouted yet.[XV] wrote:
Can someone lock this thread before it becomes a shit storm? Both are different ways of playing, there is no better or worse. Just better or worse players.
Why type such an arrogant post? Your answer makes no sense. OP post is great, but you sure know how this is going to be a shitstorm on the comments. This community is great, but also is full of people who can't make a good discussion without memeing or start to insult.Lagel wrote:
It'll only become a shit storm with people purposefully intending to create a shit storm. OP has made a perfectly fine post and it invokes discussion, what's wrong with that in the G&R thread? Just because you're too immature to handle discussion and opinion doesn't mean a thread should be shut down.[XV] wrote:
Can someone lock this thread before it becomes a shit storm? Both are different ways of playing, there is no better or worse. Just better or worse players.
Lagel wrote:
you're too immature
Is likely to evoke a personal response from the other person rather than encourage logical discussion so its best to edit these out before you post or this could turn into locked thread version 2. I don't care about not hurting peoples feelings or anything its just boring to read insults.[XV] wrote:
arrogant post
There has been plenty of mouse vs tablet threads that have been completely fine, I don't know how this one is any different.[XV] wrote:
Can someone lock this thread before it becomes a shit storm?
A shitty flamebaity discussion isn't any better than the shitposts that happen usuallyF1r3tar wrote:
This thread is better than 99% of the usual G&R threads because it actually provokes a discussion.LoliPantsu wrote:
the thread is retarded imo, if someone can get to #1 using mouse then mouse players shouldnt be discouraged at all
yesArthraxium wrote:
Did not read OP because of terrible formatting. Is this some new drama again?
FixedRunielVermell wrote:
In the end it comes down totalentplaying more
Yeah I've had the feeling and found this super disorientating. When I switched back to mouse from using a tablet for ages the mouse moved in a totally different way than I expected. My brain probably mixed up the muscle memory of the 2 peripherals and it took a little while to adjust. The same happened when switching to tablet from mouse.shortpotato wrote:
on a side note, tablet feels weird for me because reaching different parts of the tablet require different movements while you can just slide a mouse around on the same plane. Anyone else feel like this? O.o
lolM3ATL0V3R wrote:
The pp of top plays from cookiezi and Rafis both came from higher OD rather than aim
I do, it's more like I need extra effort to do jump.shortpotato wrote:
on a side note, tablet feels weird for me because reaching different parts of the tablet require different movements while you can just slide a mouse around on the same plane. Anyone else feel like this? O.o
You're ignoring a number of other features of mice and tablets with that statement.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Mouse is basically a fat tablet pen. Make a tablet pen too fat, shape it into something that looks like a mouse and it already has the advantages/disadvantages of a mouse
YeahYuudachi-kun wrote:
I didnt read this thread but is it as dumb as the last one
1000 dpi on 1152x864 isn't really that high tbh.B1rd wrote:
Angel uses high dpi so he can somewhat negate the mouse drift and inertia, the main disadvantages of using mouse. Yet most mouse players don't do well with high dpi. He is just an aberration.
Fite meKupcaH wrote:
lolM3ATL0V3R wrote:
The pp of top plays from cookiezi and Rafis both came from higher OD rather than aim
You're not gonna get anywhere trying to use logic to convince people to not use logic. It's just wasted effortB1rd wrote:
You're not gonna get anywhere trying to use logic to convince people of evident truths that they're too stupid to grasp in the first place. It's just wasted effort.
Its the other way around the weight of a mouse gives stability and the size gives more area to grasp which allows for more control. Combine this with a higher surface area in contact with the surface of your desk compared to a tablet pen and you get a peripheral that has roughly the same amount of control as a tablet.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Mouse is basically a fat tablet pen. Make a tablet pen too fat, shape it into something that looks like a mouse and it already has the advantages/disadvantages of a mouse
But since this game is MOSTLY about control and not just mere speed (which is the advantage of a mouse), the one with lesser total surface area, weight, volume is always objectively superior (at least for this game) It's somewhat like the chopsticks; they shaped it to be not too thick (for more control over food regardless of size you want to pick up), not too thin (so the chopsticks have the bulk to support the food you picked up) and has long (or varied) reach for ease of eating. It's also like juggling balls; the optimal size and weight for a ball is to ideally make a single hand capable of immediately grabbing it and not some bloated one like basketball's and soccer's since it's too large and heavy. Not like it's impossible to do it but it's harder than juggling with something smaller.
So if I give you a chopsticks of 1km circumference, you'd be able to have more control over your food? Obviously not.M3ATL0V3R wrote:
Its the other way around the weight of a mouse gives stability and the size gives more area to grasp which allows for more control
That's an interesting test. Tablet was harder because there's very little friction between my tablet and the pen nib. There's less consistency between the mouse drawn glyphs but I've spent years writing with a pen.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
Write your name with a tablet pen in MSPaint.
Write your name with a mouse in MSPaint.
Just ignore the matter of speed for now, which among these two peripherals offered more control and ease? Which has better legibility?
Chopsticks with a circumference of 1km doesn't give more control because of the limiting factor which is the size of the human hand. A mouse is a better size than a pen for the hand.Kunino Sagiri wrote:
So if I give you a chopsticks of 1km circumference, you'd be able to have more control over your food? Obviously not.M3ATL0V3R wrote:
Its the other way around the weight of a mouse gives stability and the size gives more area to grasp which allows for more control
So if I give you a pentelpen and ask you to write your name of approximate 12mm standard font size, you'd be able to provide a satisfactory, hassle free result? Obviously not. Pentel pens are structured to discard control of where its ink will go with its increased ballpoint size compared to regular pens (ballpens, fountain pens etc.). Its purpose is just to mark which benefits more in size than precision that's why it's called a marker
I'll give you another clearer example just in case these already clear examples still isn't enough for you to stop with this false statement.
Write your name with a tablet pen in MSPaint.
Write your name with a mouse in MSPaint.
Just ignore the matter of speed for now, which among these two peripherals offered more control and ease? Which has better legibility?
I don't think you get my point. These examples were only used to strengthen my first post where total size, volume, weight objectively influence control and the general usage of the said object. We're supposed to completely ignore the skill or mastery of the peripheral by the user but rather the objective advantage of a peripheral with lesser total physical structure (tablet pen) in terms of control to something with more (mouse) at least for this game.M3ATL0V3R wrote:
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