SoGa wrote:

General

1. Why is this complete map has no hitsound ? Histound is also an important facts for this rhythm game tho , without the hitsound , the whole map sound boring .Consider to learn about how to put hitsound

Fixed. Now it sounds really nice. Thanks for showing me the way sir, or madam.


Note: As I did rework a lot of stuff, I made changes but not fully according to what SoGa suggested.

Easyl

1. AR3 or AR4 fit better there than AR2 tho Fixed. Changed to AR3
2. i would use 1.0 for SVNo change. This is aimed at newer players so I would like to make it a nice and chilled.
3. 00:04:080 i think the volume 50-60 is ok for the intro . Fixed. Changed to 60%
4. 00:05:926 (3) - i prefer this
5. 00:07:310 (4) - i would use this rhythm instead
6. 00:09:156 (1) - Not really recommend to put a spinner here ,becuz after a spinner , u have to left 4 gaps of white ticks .look at the image
7. 00:14:695 (1,1) - ^ same as above
8. 00:22:080 Here is clear a sound there , add a note pls
9. 00:23:926 ^ or maybe just turn this into a 1/1 slider 00:23:464 (5) -
10. 00:22:541 (4) - NC Fixed
11. 00:24:387 (6) - NC Fixed
12. 00:28:080 (3) - NC Fixed
13. 00:38:695- Add a note Fixed
14. 00:39:156 (4) - NC here Fixed
15. 00:42:849- Add a note Fixed
16. 00:45:618 (1,1) - same as the top one mentioned
17. 00:48:849 (2) - don't just use red point to draw a slider , it seems bad tho , draw it more smoothly something like this is ok Fixed. Learned my lesson, so I use a lot of blanket sliders. Looks much nicer thanks to you.
18. 00:52:080 (4) - NC Fixed
19. 00:53:926 consider to add a note here
20. 00:54:387 (2) - For this one , is a little bit hard for newby to react tho , i would put something like this instead
21. 00:59:464 (4,5) - ^
22. 01:40:541 (2) - ^
23. 00:55:772 (1) - turn this one into 2 1/1 slider fit better there
24. 01:08:695 (3) - i would put this one following this 01:07:310 (2) - slider-tail . It is more clearly and ez to play
25. 01:42:387 add a note here
26. 01:44:695 ^
27. 01:47:464 (1) - putting here is a little bit weird , i would put it to blanket if i cant , i will probably do this instead
28. 02:02:233 (1,2) - This kind of Overlap is seems bad tho ..hope u can fix it
29. 02:04:080 (2) - NC
30. 02:26:695 (4) - change this in to a 1/1 slider instead ,02:24:387 (1,2,3,4,5) - this part for newb is too hard i think
31. 03:03:156 (2,3,4) - two 1/1 slider fit better than 3 notes instead
32. 03:10:541 (3,4) - ^
33. 03:21:618 (4) - ^
34. 03:25:310 (3) - i will do instead of current placement
35. 03:27:156 (4) - ^

Note: As I did rework a lot of stuff, I made changes but not fully according to what SoGa suggested.

Normal

1. Ar4 is ok
2. SV 1.1 is ok ,the current one is a little bit fast maybe
3. 00:04:772 (4,5) - how about move this 2 forward a tick? i mean 00:04:772 (4) - start at 00:05:003 -
4. 00:07:310 (1,2,3,4) - maybe u can try this ? it is not overlap and more aesthetics
5. 00:09:156 (5) - This slider start here 00:09:618 - not here 00:09:156 - and also recommend to change the current pattern , is not smooth tho
6. 00:13:310 (6,7) - Blanket it em more beautiful pls
7. 00:15:618 (2,3) - ^
8. 00:31:772 (1,1) - This is the same as i mentioned as easy , but in normal ,after a spinner , u have to left one instead of four Fixed
9. 00:59:464 (9) - NC
10. 01:10:772 - delete this note
11. 01:47:926 (1) - NC
12. 01:54:156 Add a note here
13. 01:58:080 Add a note here and start the spinner at 01:58:541 end here
14. 02:18:387 (1) - delete the spinner and map it
15. 02:22:079 (2) - This one is not fit the song lmao , change this instead
16. 02:23:464 (5) - delete this one and add a note here if u change the above one 02:23:233
17. 02:28:079 (5) - There is unnecessary to slow this one down and it supposed to end here 02:29:926
18. 02:31:310 (7) - change it into 2 note
19. 02:49:310 (5) - change to a note only
20. 02:52:079 (1) - NC this one just for consistency that ur putting NC following 2 big whiteticks
21. 02:57:156 (1) - 1/1 slider fit here better
22. 03:08:002 (7) - u add a 1/2 slider here and why is here has nothing ？03:09:849 ，do the samething as 03:08:002 (7) - for consistency
23. 03:11:695 ^
24. 03:13:541 ^
25. 03:15:156 a reverse slider here , and delete the following 2 notes
26. 03:18:156 (8) - this one move to here 03:17:695 (6) - and delete , 03:17:696 (6,7) -

I will end my mod here , hope i help u ,if u still don't understand what i've said , feel free to catch me in-game , the rest hards im not going to mod em due to insufficient quality maybe , 其实是我懒,要摸4个full diff搞死我 Try it now. You will be surprised

;w; Good Luck

DahplA wrote:

Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

General

1. I'm pretty sure you still have default combo colours. There is nothing wrong with default combo colours . However I will change it to something else.

Mecheman's Hard+

1. Circle Size 5 on a <4 star? I'd consider lowering this. (Same with Hard) For the hard diff, as there is nothing crazy in terms of patterns, and the fact that it looks better with cs5 on, along with quite a low od to compensate for small cs, I would not change that. For Mecheman's hard+, I am thinking of getting it reduced to 4<x<5 Circle Size
2. 00:09:628 (11) - Maybe NC here because it follows a different rhythm
3. 00:14:705 (1) - Why not stack this?
4. 00:40:320 (12) - Shouldn't there be NC here?
5. 00:40:551 (13) - Space this out more
6. 00:48:859 (2,3) - Make these sliders the same (as in copy paste)
7. 00:58:782 (1,2) - Maybe curve these out more
8. 01:05:474 (2) - Straighten this out more
9. 01:19:551 (5,6) - This may be too hard to read for that level of difficulty
10. 02:05:128 (1) - Random NC
11. 03:12:166 (1,1,1) - Remove NCs
12. Just a quick note: The NCs need to be more consistent, but because I cannot tell where you want them, I can't suggest where to remove and where to place. I'd recommend just putting them 4 or 8 beats. [b ]I am placing new combo's every 8 beats for every difficulty. [/b]

All of the above is up to Mecheman; he is reworking it now as I speak

Hard

1. 00:11:013 (1) - ^ I am placing new combo's every 8 beats for every difficulty.
2. 00:12:397 (5) - This is placed too close to previous circle Changed. Reverse the starting position and rotated it 40 degrees anticlockwise. Doing that not only fixed your suggestion, but it unexpectedly blankets the next note .
3. 00:22:090 (6) - Stack? That one I will not change. The reason is that I placed note 6 to complete the diamond pattern, and that note is blanketed by the slider (3.)
4. 00:37:551 (1) - ^ Will not change that because that is part of a triangle pattern with note 2 of the previous combo, slider end of slider 1 from the previous combo and slider 1 from this combo. It blankets the next note as well.
5. 00:39:859 (4) - Maybe have the sliderend stack on 00:39:397 (2) - I did not even think about that (thanks for pointing it out ). Fixed and looks better.
6. 00:53:705 (1) - Stack Sadly, no stack as I placed that there for a pattern.
7. 00:55:782 (1) - Blanket Done.
8. 00:56:936 (5) - ^ I use that slider to blanket the next triplet, not the triplet 2,3,4.
9. 00:59:474 (1,2,3) - Doesn't fit the rhythm (There are several more spots this occurs) This one is interesting, I do agree with the change shown in the image at that time, at 01:58:551 and 02:22:230. However, at the chorus, I do use the 1,2,3 pattern but it actually fits in this area. Moreover when I used it at the non vocal parts it does fit and adds a change to the pattern. Thanks for that though.
   
   SPOILER

   
10. 01:03:166 (1) - Blanket Fixed.
11. 01:38:936 (5) - ^ This one makes a diamond pattern and already blankets notes 2 and 3. No change here.
12. 02:05:474 (1) - ^ Fixed.
13. 03:06:859 (1) - Stack No change because I like the current flow of it right now.

FreeSongs wrote:

Hihi^^ as you request!

Because I am pretty bad at modding easy diffs, the mod below is only my personal suggestion ;_;

[Easy]
00:06:397 (4) - 3/4 sliders like this are too hard for beginners imo. Try to avoid using those sliders in easy diffs. I decided that only on very long sliders does it end on a blue tick, but at parts like these, I used 4/4 Sliders
00:17:013 (3,1) - how about making a blanket here? like this:

Fixed
There are a lot of blankets that can be improved. For example, 00:18:859 (1,2) - 00:18:859 (1,3) - 00:26:243 (1,2,3) - , ... Improved some of them but as I use distance snap, at times I cannot get a perfect blanket, so I tried doing as best as I could.
A perfect and pretty blanket is like what you did here: 00:57:628 (3,4) - Yay.
I think thats pretty much all I want to say for easy ;_;

[Normal]
00:35:474 (6) - This is a little bit hard for beginners, and it is not recommended to have multiple reverese on a short slider. Fixed
01:48:628 (4) - 03:21:628 (6) - ^ Fixed for the first one. However, for the second one, as there is a break between the end of the repeating slider and the next note, it should be fine. Therefore I did not change that.
01:03:166 (1,2,3) - Again, it is very rare to put circle at blue tick since its a little bit too difficult. I would do something like this

01:11:013 (2,3,4) - Same as above. consider to use sliders to make it easier to play as suggested above. Fixed. Other places I found out and I fixed them. Thanks for helping me for that.

[Hard]
00:31:090 (5,6,7,8,9) - How about making the pattern symmetrical like this?

Fixed. Thanks so much for pointing that out. I intended for it to be symmetrical. Must have been an oversight.
01:11:243 (3) - Consider to follow the vocal here 01:11:359 - like this

Fixed. It does sound better. At first I thought it will be much harder for the person playing it, but the low overall difficulty should compensate for that.
02:03:166 (4) - 02:10:320 (7) - ^
Fixed for 2:10:320, but the above suggestion did not work for 2:03:166, so I tried a different method which works just as well. :O. Moreover, there are other sections in which I managed to follow the beat to the vocals without raising difficulty by that much.
02:18:974 (10) - Shorten by 1/4 and remove clap at the slider end. Fixed
03:08:243 (10) - This reverse slider is too difficult to read imo. I suggest to shorten it into single reverse slider and add circles at 03:08:705 - 03:08:936 - Fixed. I added circles at 3:08:705 and 3:08:936, but not in between as it felt off if I did that.
03:29:013 (7) - ^ Fixed

Hope this helps!
Good luck!

Gamu wrote:

hello! sorry for the delay... Do not worry about that

[ General]

1. Works In Progress/Help ⇒ Pending Beatmaps When Uploaded I will move it.
   Please move the forum
2. Found unused .wav files: "soft-slidertick3.wav" and "normal-hitwhistle2.wav". You must delete them. Fixed
3. Inconsistency in combo colours: Easy diff is different from other diffs, so you might want to unify this combo colors. Fixed
   
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4. Source: 俺の妹がこんなに可愛いわけがない。
   I'd like to recommend that you change to Japanese source. It is the correct. Done
5. Tags: Clara Alice Fixed
   Add they name. ClariS is unit name.
6. Disable the "Widescreen Support". It doesn't work in this mapset. Fixed

[ Easy]

1. Difficulty setting is a little low. Please change to HP2 and OD2. Fixed
2. 01:58:551 (1) - Add a soft-hitfinish! Fixed
3. 02:39:166 (1) - Placement and looks is bad. Please try to create like this slider~Fixed
   
   image

   
4. 02:44:705 (3) - You can create a beautiful slider. Fixed
   
   image

   
5. 02:48:397 (3) - ^ Fixed
   
   image

   
6. 03:17:936 (2) - spacing error. It should be 1.06~1.14x Fixed
7. 03:38:233 (T) - this green line is unsnapped. snap to 03:38:243. Also I'd like to recommend that you change the volume to 5%. Fixed and I made the change to every difficulty for consistency. Sounds nicer.

[ Normal]

1. Difficulty setting is a little low. Please change to OD4. Fixed
2. 01:55:551 (3) - Arrow is hidden. Readability is important in normal diff, so please change the placement. Fixed. Redesigned that area and the beats after that to make it more clean.
3. 02:07:551 (4,5) - This rhythm is difficult to understand. Please try changing the slider (5) to circle (02:08:243) Fixed
4. 02:37:090 (4,5) - ^Fixed
5. 02:44:243 (2,3) - ^Fixed
6. 02:51:859 (3,4) - ^Fixed
7. 02:53:474 (1,2) - ^Fixed
   
   image

   

[ Hard]

1. Difficulty setting is a little high. Please change to HP5 and CS4. Changed HP Drain to 5. CS will be at 5 for the time being, because when I put it to CS4, it does not feel right; it does not clean and it looks too compressed.
2. 01:09:859 (X) - Add a circle! Fixed
3. 02:38:474 (X) - ^ Fixed
4. 03:01:320 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - It is so difficult to read the rhythm in hard level. Don't stacking!Fixed and only stacked notes 1 and 5.

[ Mecheman's Hard+]

1. 01:03:166 (1) - Add a soft-hitfinish at the start point! Fixed on behalf of Mecheman
2. 02:02:243 (1) - ^ Fixed on behalf of Mecheman
3. 02:29:936 (1) - Maybe this slider is not permitted. It is not possible to read the flow of the slider ball...Fixed by Mecheman.

Sorry for short modding ;w; Either that means that you did not find anything wrong with the rest of the beatmaps, or there were a lot of problems and it would have been a pain to go through all of them. I hope it is the former lol.
Good luck! Thanks.

rhalp10 wrote:

Sorry My Queue For STDHas Been Closed I Can't Handle That Mode Anymore ..

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Hey, I got bored xD
originally coming from your modding Q...
Maybe you can mod my map in return : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/322414

[General]

1. I don't think you really need to add kiai here 03:16:090 maybe if you want, you just have to turn the kiai on and turn it off again after that so the stars would just pop up to avoid too much kiai. I did quick bursts of kiai for that moment. Thanks for that.
2. Maybe you better put the audio preview before the chorus like here 01:02:705 or here 02:01:782 but it's up to you. Changed to the former time.

[Easy]

1. There's a DS problem, maybe you can fix it.
2. 00:09:166 (2,5) - Stack them? for neater look. For easy difficulties, there is no stacking
3. 00:11:474 (1) - Actually, ending this slider on blue tick causing a polarity problem... I think it can't be helped since you are following the vocal, but maybe you can change it by following the background sound instead... Fixed
4. 01:34:551 (2) - Adjust the shape more so the tick would fall on the pointy part...
5. 02:11:936 (3) - Same polarity problem, maybe just end it on white tick just like what you did on the previous part, like this 01:05:474 (3) - or 01:12:859 (4) - will do just fine. Fixed
6. 02:12:859 (1,4) - Stack the heads properly, again for neater looks. For easy difficulties, there is no stacking
7. 02:55:782 (3) - Again, just end it on white tick Fixed
8. Basically a good map, almost nothing to mod because you actually follow the rhythm well. But I think you must improve your blanket for neater looks, use approach circle as a guide. Most of your blankets, like this 00:20:243 (2,3) - or 00:27:628 (2,3) - or 03:21:628 (2,1) - and many more are imperfect, so you better fix them. Fixed

[Normal]

1. Almost look like Hard in first glance o-o maybe this should be Normal+ I do not know why this difficulty is rated so high.
2. Still, a DS problem, fix it. Fixed
3. 00:07:320 (1) - Why the lonesome combo? You don't change the SV right? don't need to NC right after. Oversight. Fixed
4. 00:11:474 (1,2) - Switch these two places. http://puu.sh/ilK73/7b29deb6eb.jpg Would follow the rhythm better. Fixed
5. 00:29:936 (1) - Extend the spinner here 00:33:166 and add a clap hitsound maybe? According to a previous modder [SoGa], he said that there should be at least a break of 2 beats for a spinner. Therefore there is no change.
6. 00:39:397 (5) - Move this to behind 00:40:090 (7) - so it looks like this http://puu.sh/ilKfR/c70daf142e.jpg it'll follow the vocal better. Fixed
7. 00:44:936 (2,3) - Switch place again, follow the vocal. http://puu.sh/ilKiT/7cd32ebd1c.jpg Fixed
8. 00:45:859 (4) - Move this behind 00:46:551 (6) - http://puu.sh/ilKlR/d8790dcb2e.jpg Fixed
9. 01:44:936 (1) - Unnecessary spinner, kinda out of place, just map this part.
10. 03:03:166 (5,6) - Delete (5), move (6) 1/2 tick forward and add a reverse, will fit better I think. http://puu.sh/ilKys/fd56340700.jpg
11. 03:09:859 (5) - Add a reverse? there's a pretty big sound here 03:10:320 Fixed that area. This area is probably the reason why my star difficulty is overrated.
12. Pretty good as well ^^, just need some improvement, again, in placing. Ah, and some note: I know it's better to start a slider on white tick, but if there's vocal that support, you can add slider at red tick to follow it; there are plenty in this song.

[Hard]

1. Circle size from 3 (in Normal) to 4.5 is a pretty big jump in diff, why don't just use CS 4? It's not comfortable to play with too small CS as well. I started with cs 5, because with cs4 it felt too cluttered and really easy. Cs 5 was too much of a hassle so I decided to settle on cs 4.5.
2. 00:06:859 Add a note here for better polarity? :3 Does not fit
3. 00:20:936 (8,12) - Stack properly~ Changed in remake. There is no stack there.
4. 01:25:320 (1,2,3) - This don't seem to fit well at the part, just keep the notes on white and red tick for this instrumental part. Changed in remake.
5. No break? A break here is actually pretty good 02:17:013 You need some break to adjust position, especially for mouse player (like me x-x) Did a break at 01:17:936. I did not put a break at 02:17:013 because this is mapped differently to the rest of the song, and I really wanted to map it.
6. Yeah, you're right, this is almost like old map, but better. I don't really like this kind of map so I can't really mod it; but that doesn't mean your map is bad, it's good, I have to say but you need to improve your placement, again ^^ Fixed a lot of stuff.
   I did a full remake of hard, so most of the stuff you mentioned does not apply here .

I'll end my mod here, I think the other Hard is not my type as well xD
Good luck~ :3

Damn score

uhh, dat misses >.<

1. I don't like small circles (CS>4)
2. I can see that sometimes the blankets are imperfect and there are some overlaps, it looks untidy
3. I don't really like double triplets. Like this http://puu.sh/iqDwV/09cab373a9.jpg got a lot of 100 there.
4. A slider like this 00:58:321 (8) - don't seem to fit the vocal. Use it for wiggle sound.
5. 01:02:243 (7) - This slider sounds weird... A note here 01:01:090 followed by a spinner would be better...
6. And I don't like this kind of rhythm 02:17:705 (5,6) - nothing wrong, just disliked it. Missed there.
7. And damn that speed up at end >.< Missed a lot there xD
8. 02:54:743 (5,6,7,8) - Combo breaker for me. The rhythm is kinda weird, four time stream, tricky for me. Plus the shape make it even harder.

hanyuu_nanodesu wrote:

Hi, requested test play

Damn score

uhh, dat misses >.<

Asking me to testplay is like telling me to mod according to my taste, so this is what I think

1. I don't like small circles (CS>4) I like small circles. The return of CS4+ Hard difficulties are imminent.
2. I can see that sometimes the blankets are imperfect and there are some overlaps, it looks untidy Fixing that at the moment.
3. I don't really like double triplets. Like this http://puu.sh/iqDwV/09cab373a9.jpg got a lot of 100 there.
4. A slider like this 00:58:321 (8) - don't seem to fit the vocal. Use it for wiggle sound. Extended the slider by 1 tick and it seems to be better than before.
5. 01:02:243 (7) - This slider sounds weird... A note here 01:01:090 followed by a spinner would be better... Fixed and applied it at another location. Amazingly all my difficulties have the same amount of sliders now.
6. And I don't like this kind of rhythm 02:17:705 (5,6) - nothing wrong, just disliked it. Missed there. Tried to employ variety between double notes and the slider.
7. And damn that speed up at end >.< Missed a lot there xD I did that on purpose, since I like to speed up the slider velocity around 40% from the finish.
8. 02:54:743 (5,6,7,8) - Combo breaker for me. The rhythm is kinda weird, four time stream, tricky for me. Plus the shape make it even harder. Changed Shape

That's all, no kudos. Thanks for testplay. It seems to me that the rework has worked.
Good luck

1. 00:06:397 (4) - copy paste next slider shape, doesnt really look that good with two sliders side by side with different shapes. would also blanket which looks cleaner.
   00:07:320 (5) - nc
2. 00:11:474 (1) - I don't think it's any different from previous verse, I think you should map this instead
   00:14:705 (2,1) - swap nc to follow vocals, I think thats better because easy-normal generally map after vocals over percussion so might aswell nc accordingly. there are more like these but you can find them
3. 00:26:243 (1,3) - these are curved a bit too much, the blanketing is weird because of it and i think it'd look better straightened out just a little little bit
4. 00:39:628 (5) - fix like this http://puu.sh/iNMwk.jpg
5. 00:46:090 (3) - also excessively curved, you should try to make the borders of the circle have equal distance to the sliderborders http://puu.sh/iNMyZ.jpg
6. 00:56:705 (2) - might be hard to play for newer players, sliders that pushes the flow so much like this is generally only used in insane or higher
7. 01:05:013 (2) - move up one box (4 pixels)
8. 01:06:397 (4) - move this one up a bit looks better imo
9. 01:14:705 (1) - unnecessary nc
10. 01:56:243 (3) - clap

1. 00:09:166 (3,4) - doesnt flow well from previous slider, try this 00:09:166 (3,4) -
2. 00:11:474 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this whole rhythm is too difficult compared to previously imo, you had mostly 1/1 and 3/4 before and now theres a lot of 1/2 which can be overwhelming, or map the beggining with this rhythm, as long as its consistent
   00:14:705 (7,1) - excessively curved
3. 00:16:551 (2,3,4) - try placing like this, flows nicer and (2) isnt so close to previous slider http://puu.sh/iNNc3.jpg
4. 00:53:705 (6) - can place 1/1 slider here instead to follow held sound of vocal
5. 00:24:628 (4,5,6) - ctrl+h flows better, but you need to adjust next objects a bit
6. 00:34:782 (4) - center red anchor point and curve less looks better
7. 00:53:705 (6) - can place 1/1 slider here instead to follow held sound of vocal
8. 01:08:705 (4) - curve less
9. 01:12:397 (4) -
10. 01:56:243 (4) - clap
11. 02:57:166 (7,1) - swap nc
12. 03:21:628 (6) - you should never have more than one repeat unless its 1/4 sliders in hards or higher, no one ever uses more than 1 for longer slider in modern maps, so players naturally move away from the slider after the first repeat and so they will break.
13. 03:27:859 (4) - previous pattern doesnt flow well into this, you can just ctrl+h 03:27:859 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) -

1. 00:03:628 - I think you should map this whole section with a slower sv, and slightly smaller spacing, because right now its keeping the same momentum as 00:18:859 - even though is a lot calmer.
2. 00:08:243 (2) - curve less
3. 00:13:320 (6) - not very good blanket
4. 00:14:705 (9) - copy paste 00:15:628 (2) - slider shape and ctrl+h+j
5. 00:21:166 (9) - curve less
6. 02:09:166 (10) - kinda confusing stacked under triplet, easier to read if you stack under previous slider
7. 02:17:705 (5,6) - stack looks better and more comfortable to play, i dont think there should be movement like this on doubles. doubles are actually difficult enough to play because its harder to keep rhythm on them, and doubles are pretty new to people playing hard diffs, so make them moving only makes them more annoying. there are more like these that i think you should fix.
8. 02:17:013 - same as first point, this section is a breakdown and should be slower
9. 02:54:166 (2,4,5) - overlap, move up 02:54:628 (4,5) -
10. 03:12:397 (1,2,3) - theres too much momentum in this pattern, notice how your cursor moves at pretty constant speed until you come to this where it has to speed up a lot without any change in music I think you should just follow the rhythm and melody.
11. 03:19:782 (1) - stack sliderend on previous slider looks better
12. 03:29:705 (10) - move this to x413 y122 and it flows better, move everything else down with it.

Hendrix89 wrote:

Hi from your mod queue,

Removed Kiai Times on the last parts of the map.

Easy:

00:07:320 (5) - NC
00:09:628 (8) - shorten the slider by a half note
02:02:243 (1) - change your slider to look more like this
02:59:474 (3) - change the slider to this Today's rules dictate that you cannot use multiple repeats in a slider. I actually like your idea though.
03:05:013 (1) - change the slider to this Same as above
get rid of the kiai times at 03:16:090 (1) - 03:19:782 (1) - 03: 23:474 (1) - 03:27:166 (1)


Normal

I did a full remap of this so most of the stuff you wrote does not apply. Sorry about that.
02:11:474 (5) - extend the slider by a quarter note
02:26:243 (3) - ^
get rid of the short kiai times at the end

Hard

00:20:705 (1) - NC
00:25:090 (10) - shorten the slider by a quarter note
00:26:936 (4) - ^
00:30:628 (4) - ^
00:31:551 (1) - NC
00:32:474 (11) - shorten the slider by a quarter note
00:32:820 (12) - add a single
00:38:936 (1) - NC
00:48:166 (13) - NC
00:48:397 (1) - delete NC
00:51:859 (1) - NC
00:52:090 (3) - delete NC
00:54:166 (1) - NC
00:56:820 (3) - delete note
00:58:321 (8) - shorten slider by a quarter note
01:03:166 (1) - ^
01:03:859 (3) - ^
01:05:474 (7) - ^
01:05:936 (8) - add a note
01:08:474 (1) - NC
01:08:705 (2,3,4) - change this section like this
01:11:243 (3,4,5,6,7) - change this section like this
01:13:551 (1) - NC
01:13:782 (2) - delete NC
01:34:782 (1) - NC
01:39:859 (1) - NC
01:40:090 (3) - delete NC
01:41:936 (1) - NC
02:09:166 (1) - NC
02:09:628 (1) - delete NC
02:11:243 (1) - NC
02:18:859 (1) - NC
02:37:666 (8) - delete slider
02:37:782 - add single
02:39:974 (3) - delete slider
02:40:090 - add single
02:44:705 (1) - NC
02:44:936 (2) - delete single
02:45:051 (3) - move the slider left a quarter note
02:45:282 - add a single
02:46:551 (7) - delete NC
02:46:782 (1) - NC
02:47:243 (2) - shorten the slider by a quarter note
02:54:628 (4) - delete note
02:54:743 (5) - move the slider left a note quarter note
03:03:166 (1) - NC
03:06:859 (1) - NC
03:10:551 (9) - NC
03:12:743 (2) - delete slider
03:12:859 - add a single
03:14:243 (8) - NC
03:15:628 (7,8) - delete notes
03:15:628 - add a half note slider
03:18:166 (7) - NC
03:20:474 (3) - shorten the slider by a quarter note
03:21:628 (7) - NC
03:22:782 (11,12) - delete these notes
03:22:782 - add a half note slider
03:24:166 (3) - shorten the by a quarter note
03:25:320 (8) - NC
03:25:666 (9) - delete note
03:25:782 - add a single
03:29:705 (10) - shorten by a quarter note

Change CS to 4, 4.5 doesn't fit the difficulty I like CS 4.5 so I will keep it.
Get rid of the kiai times at the end Removed
The map doesn't have many patterns, everything is basically in a line. You should add some patterns like zig zags or stars or doubles or something. I wanted the hard map to be a linear style. I did add zig zags though. I will perhaps add stars and stuff.




Overall the two Hard difficulties are over mapped and feel awkward to play . I don't like all of those sliders that end on the blue ticks, they feel really awkward and out of place. Even though there may be a beat on some of those blue ticks it feels much better when you end on a red or white tick.

Based on your hard mod I decided to make a Hard- Diff. It is much simpler than the current hard diff and involves a lot more patterns. I am making a few changes to the current hard diff so its more fun to play.

Good luck with the map

1. 00:53:936 (1) - nazi blanket things
2. 01:45:166 (1,2) - you can move the 01:47:936 (2) - to avoid overlaps.
3. 02:36:859 (1) - blanket

1. 01:09:859 - missing clap note?
2. 01:16:782 (2) - better pattern.
3. 03:05:013 (1,2,3,4) - convert it to two 1/2 sliders, this may too extreme for normal which is more than 4 1/2 circles in a row with this diff (2 star below).
4. 03:08:705 (1,2,3,4) - ^
5. 03:10:551 (1,2,3,4) - ^ and so on...
6. and maybe remove some spinners like 00:29:936 (1) - and 02:14:705 (1) - that can obviously map by 1/1 and 1/2 beats.

1. 00:09:397 (3,2) - nazi stack.
2. 01:15:397 (1) - you can map this part ;w;
3. 01:46:436 (1) - I can understand about following the vocals but there's stronk beat like 01:46:782 - and 01:47:013 - so ye consider to remove spinner
4. 02:02:474 (2) - remove it or add note in 01:03:397 -
5. 02:06:397 (3) - Slider's curve is out of the area.
6. 02:11:013 (2) - nazi parallel
7. 02:17:013 - you can add note here already since it's hardddd

1. 00:29:705 (6,7,1) - unstack it from 00:29:474 (5) - since beat-gap is changing
2. 03:14:936 (3,4,5,6,7) - polish the zig-zag
3. 03:19:320 (7,1,2,3,4) - polish the star

1. 00:10:320 (3,5) - you can avoid touching them.
2. 01:00:397 (1) - remove this? previous finish sound was covered and it's hard to hit
3. 01:16:782 (4) - not snapped in white tick
4. 01:32:243 (12,2) - stack them may better.
5. 01:47:243 (1) - convert it into two circles since 01:47:474 - as slider-end is weird
6. 01:54:628 (1,2) - swap NC
7. 02:17:013 - you can add circle here ;w;

[-AKiTOSHi-] wrote:

w
Nazi, warning and suggestions.

[Easy]

1. 00:53:936 (1) - nazi blanket things Fixed
2. 01:45:166 (1,2) - you can move the 01:47:936 (2) - to avoid overlaps. Fixed. The new position is not supposed to blanket the previous slider
3. 02:36:859 (1) - blanket Fixed

[Normal]

1. 01:09:859 - missing clap note? There is nothing there since the prev. slider ends on vocal, I give a break so the player can start on vocals.
2. 01:16:782 (2) - better pattern. A lot better. Thanks
3. 03:05:013 (1,2,3,4) - convert it to two 1/2 sliders, this may too extreme for normal which is more than 4 1/2 circles in a row with this diff (2 star below).
4. 03:08:705 (1,2,3,4) - ^
5. 03:10:551 (1,2,3,4) - ^ and so on...
   The reason I won't change that is after the final chorus, the rhythm represents what you may expect in the next difficulty. This is preparation for that.
6. and maybe remove some spinners like 00:29:936 (1) - and 02:14:705 (1) - that can obviously map by 1/1 and 1/2 beats. Every diff of mine has 7 spinners. Osu needs more spinners

[Hard-]

1. 00:09:397 (3,2) - nazi stack.
2. 01:15:397 (1) - you can map this part ;w; Did not do that, but I did map 01:17:936 to compensate. Also 444 hitobjects kek
3. 01:46:436 (1) - I can understand about following the vocals but there's stronk beat like 01:46:782 - and 01:47:013 - so ye consider to remove spinner 7 spinners.
4. 02:02:474 (2) - remove it or add note in 01:03:397 - I did not change that, because this is a progressive increase in the difficulty.
5. 02:06:397 (3) - Slider's curve is out of the area. Damn. Well fixed that and changed successive pattern after that.
6. 02:11:013 (2) - nazi parallel Fixed it
7. 02:17:013 - you can add note here already since it's hardddd. Reason for not adding the note is because I wanted to start the break there and then I could drag the green thing to have an effect.

[Hard]

1. 00:29:705 (6,7,1) - unstack it from 00:29:474 (5) - since beat-gap is changing Fixed.
2. 03:14:936 (3,4,5,6,7) - polish the zig-zag Fixed
3. 03:19:320 (7,1,2,3,4) - polish the star I used ctrl+shift+d as a guide so it should be perfect. Moved some notes a bit anyway.

I need more ClariS aaaaaaaaaaaa I like ClariS, not ClareN imo. ClariS were ying and yang but with ClareN there is no balance. In addition songs in the past had meaning and emotion.

1. Unused files.
   
   1. 332727.jpg
   2. chibi_kousaka_kirino_anime_ore_1920x1200_animemay.com.jpg
   3. hit100g.png
   4. hit50g.png
   5. kirino-anime-ore-no-imouto-1501106-1920x1200.jpg
   6. solidblack.png
   7. images.akamai.steamusercontent.com
2. Unsnapped inherited points in Hard and Mecheman Loves Meruru Now.
   
   1. 01:15:171 - snap to 01:15:166
3. The "Combo 2" in Easy didn't have exactly the same colour as the other diffs.
4. You used different BGs. Try having the same size for all BGs. And the recommended size is either 1024*768 or 1366*768.

1. 00:34:551 (1,2) - 00:39:628 (2,1) - 02:53:936 (1,2) .
2. 02:58:782 (1) - I think the spinner should have started here 03:00:166 and ended here 02:58:782 (1) instead.
3. The diff overall looks fine, but sometimes you just emphasized the patterns and blankets so much that it ruins the flow, not that's a big deal but it would be very nice if you can do sth about them. Like 00:26:243 (1,2,1) for example, in my opinion you're trying too much to make this a pattern, so this ruins the flows on 00:27:628 (2) . Also you can see that the flow here 00:25:320 (2,1) isn't perfect compared to 00:28:090 (1,2) . So my opinion is sometimes you just have to give up the pattern and focus on the flow for the sake of beginners, like what you did in Normal.

1. 00:24:859 (3,4) - Stacked objects here would ruin the flow imo. Same applies to 00:27:859 (5,1) -
2. 00:59:474 (1) - Change this into a 1/2 slider so it would fit the rhythm.
3. 01:14:705 (2,3) - Weird flow imo.
4. 03:12:397 (1,2,3,4) - LOL this will confuse beginners, try some easier patterns please.
5. 03:16:551 (3,4) - These should be unstacked so they would emphasize the strong sound better. Same applies to 03:29:474 (3,4) .

1. 01:07:320 (2,3) - Weird flow. Mainly because you're trying for a symmetry on 01:06:397 (1,2) .
2. 01:08:705 (1) - Try rotate this a bit(anti-clockwise) for a better flow.
3. 01:59:473 (3,4,5,6) - LOL, feels weird because you mapped these 01:59:705 (4,5,6) on vocal but I'm not sure if 01:59:473 (3) matches anything. Similar case applies to 02:01:782 (1,2,1,2) . When you're trying to do a pattern, make sure that every objects in that pattern are emphasizing the same thing to avoid confusion.
4. 02:24:628 (2,3) - Weird overlap lol, try spaced them more because it's almost stacked.
5. 02:40:782 (4,1) - I would suggest something similar to this for a better flow.
6. 02:56:243 (3) - I wouldn't recommend to end this on the blue tick because it can cause a confusion to players.

Electoz wrote:

Sry Mathew I was inactive recentlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[General]

1. Unused files.
   
   1. 332727.jpg
   2. chibi_kousaka_kirino_anime_ore_1920x1200_animemay.com.jpg
   3. hit100g.png
   4. hit50g.png
   5. kirino-anime-ore-no-imouto-1501106-1920x1200.jpg
   6. solidblack.png
   7. images.akamai.steamusercontent.com
2. Unsnapped inherited points in Hard and Mecheman Loves Meruru Now.
   
   1. 01:15:171 - snap to 01:15:166
3. The "Combo 2" in Easy didn't have exactly the same colour as the other diffs.
4. You used different BGs. Try having the same size for all BGs. And the recommended size is either 1024*768 or 1366*768.

All of things above were last checked on 31 December (9:00 UTC) . I'm mentioning this just in case you already changed something after I checked all those things.

For now I am still thinking about BG choices, whether I go with one or many. Most likely my new upload will only have 1 background, because in case I do go for a storyboard it is much easier to design everything when you only consider 1 background.
[Easy]

1. 00:34:551 (1,2) - 00:39:628 (2,1) - 02:53:936 (1,2) . Is this about distance snap?
2. 02:58:782 (1) - I think the spinner should have started here 03:00:166 and ended here 02:58:782 (1) instead. I do not understand.
   
   The diff overall looks fine, but sometimes you just emphasized the patterns and blankets so much that it ruins the flow, not that's a big deal but it would be very nice if you can do sth about them. Like 00:26:243 (1,2,1) for example, in my opinion you're trying too much to make this a pattern, so this ruins the flows on 00:27:628 (2) . Also you can see that the flow here 00:25:320 (2,1) isn't perfect compared to 00:28:090 (1,2) . So my opinion is sometimes you just have to give up the pattern and focus on the flow for the sake of beginners, like what you did in Normal.

I do agree with the above part. Made it into a different pattern that should be a lot easier to read.

Also fixed missing hitsounds and did some touchups.

[Normal]

1. 00:24:859 (3,4) - Stacked objects here would ruin the flow imo. Same applies to 00:27:859 (5,1) - Fixed, but at the same time the map looks nicer with stacks. I will leave some stacked notes and fix others.
2. 00:59:474 (1) - Change this into a 1/2 slider so it would fit the rhythm. How did I not catch that? Thanks. It sounds better.
3. 01:14:705 (2,3) - Weird flow imo. Fixed, rotated the previous slider because
4. 03:12:397 (1,2,3,4) - LOL this will confuse beginners, try some easier patterns please. Easier Pattern
5. 03:16:551 (3,4) - These should be unstacked so they would emphasize the strong sound better. Same applies to 03:29:474 (3,4) Done.

[Hard-]

1. 01:07:320 (2,3) - Weird flow. Mainly because you're trying for a symmetry on 01:06:397 (1,2) . I understand your point. Even if the note is distance snapped, because there is a beat at 01:08:013 it would be much smoother to have a note at 01:08:013. I made 3 into a 1/2 slider because I want 444 objects.
2. 01:08:705 (1) - Try rotate this a bit(anti-clockwise) for a better flow. Edited the shape so it flows better
3. 01:59:473 (3,4,5,6) - LOL, feels weird because you mapped these 01:59:705 (4,5,6) on vocal but I'm not sure if 01:59:473 (3) matches anything. (3) is mapped to a beat and without 3 I do not have a star pattern. I know that may not hold well, so I have added hitfinishes to 4 5 and 6 to make the vocal bit more prominent.Similar case applies to 02:01:782 (1,2,1,2) . When you're trying to do a pattern, make sure that every objects in that pattern are emphasizing the same thing to avoid confusion. I do see where you are going with this. If I make 1 2 into a 1/2 slider I do lose the pattern and (444) hitobjects. However if someone else picks up on this then I will fix both points.
4. 02:24:628 (2,3) - Weird overlap lol, try spaced them more because it's almost stacked. That is due to slow slider velocity and distance snap. And the vocal bit is at the blue tick, so you have to play it as a double.
5. 02:40:782 (4,1) - I would suggest something similar to this for a better flow. Fixed
6. 02:56:243 (3) - I wouldn't recommend to end this on the blue tick because it can cause a confusion to players. I did that same pattern throughout the song, so I assume players would be used to that.

Well, I guess I will stop here because I'm not good with CS4.5 / 5 things. I will come back to mod higher diffs later tho.

Nathan Kiss wrote:

You modded electoz's map which had a gd of mine so I will mod your map since we all know each other We have our own modding circle now

[easy]

1. 00:12:859 (1) - I think this would play better as a 1/1 slider, for an easy diff anyways Fixed. It makes sense considering it is the beginning of the song as well.
2. 00:47:013 (2,3,4,1,2) - I feel like 2 of these circles should be made into a slider, but thats just me I do understand that sliders would be good for an easy diff, but I will lose the pentagon.
3. 00:56:705 (2) - copy and paste this slider 00:55:782 (1) and rotate 180 degrees. I copied the slider and flipped vertically already, so there will be no change here.
4. 02:12:859 (1) - would play better if you made into 2 1/1 sliders like you did here 01:13:782 (1,2) . If you choose not to do this then I recommend you change the shape since isnt the prettiest one imo Did the former. 2 1/1 sliders are much better
5. 02:15:166 (1) - extend to 02:17:013 ? I lose that green bar, but extending the spinner is much better as newer players will probably not spin that fast, and may fail if the spinner is too short.
6. 03:21:628 (1) - ds How did I not catch that?
7. 03:21:628 (1) - I recommend extending this to 03:22:320 and deleting 03:22:320 (2) See the below point. Will keep this in mind though.
   
   you started using more complicated rhythms towards the end of the map, I think it would be better to stick with the rhythms youve used before since there isnt really a need to make it harder than it needs to be, I mean after all, it is an easy diff. A true beginner wont get bored of playing the same rhythm if thats all hes capable of.
   
   My idea is that for the last part of each of my difficulties, I use a pattern that the person might expect in the the next difficulty. The 1/2 sliders you see at the end are what you are going to see in the normal difficulty; this prepares the person for the next difficulty. If someone else picks up on this I will just revert to an easier rhythm.

[Normal]

1. 00:11:013 (2,3) - have the 2 patterns shaped this way?
   
   Looks a lot better
2. 00:18:859 (1) - curve this slider a bit like you did for 00:12:282 (2) Did a small curve.
3. 00:23:936 (1,2,3,4) - this would flow better if you changed the positions slighty
   
   I understand what you mean; the current one looks too cramped. Spaced that out a bit, while still having 0.9x distance snap.
4. 01:42:397 (2) - tilt the slider this way maybe?
   
   Fixed
5. 02:14:705 (1) - same as easy - extend to 02:17:013 ? Fixed
6. 02:35:936 (2) - would look prettier if you moved it up a bit imo
   
   Fixed
7. 02:55:320 (3) - I really think the overlap looks sloppy; rotate it this way (or somewhere similar)?
   
   Tilted it in a different way.

Thats all from me for now. I just finished watching the anime and visual novels to this song and I must say, Ayase is best girl! Mecheman also likes Ayase as well, though he rotates between Kanako (Meruru), Kirino and Ayase. I say Ayase is a close 2nd and Kirino is bae.

GL going for ranked! Thanks

Taeyang wrote:

• General

1. Inconsistency in [ComboColours]
   { Easy} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,55] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Hard-} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Hard} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Mecheman Loves Meruru Now} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Normal} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   
2. Missing skin files in [Playfield] set
   play-skip.png
   play-warningarrow.png
   
3. Unused hitsounds:
   normal-hitwhistle2.wav
   
4. Wave hitsounds with possible delay >5ms:
   soft-hitfinish.wav
   normal-hitfinish.wav
   
5. Files unused:
   comboburst-2.png
   
6. Use one slidetick; sound better
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   I used slider tick rate 2 before, but the reason why I used tick rate 4 was because as my hitsounding involves adding a clap every 2 ticks, and sometimes they land in the middle or just after the middle of a slider. That means I have to use the tick method for having a clap sound. The problem with that though is that with slider rates of 2 or less, is that there is no tick for me to make a clap sound on. This only happens in 4-5 instances, but I cannot accept that.
   
   If someone else has a complaint with this then I will fix it.
   
7. this mapset why need 'hard-' diff? i think spread fine

A modder named Hendrix89 played my Hard and Mecheman's difficulty, and he/she said that the map felt quite overmapped. Rather than destroying the rhythm which I liked in my difficulty (this was 3-4 months ago), I decide to to make a Hard- (you guys will probably call this hard actually) difficulty which has fewer hitobjects, a slower slider velocity and much more player friendly. I also use rhythm patterns that you will find in the Hard difficulty, so people are prepared in advance for the much harder difficulty on hand.

• Easy

1. Use 2downbeat NC term Fixed
2. 00:22:551 (1) - this slide end here 00:23:474 - and put in 00:23:936 - here
3. 00:41:013 (1) - ^same 00:41:936 - end here 00:42:397 - here put in circle
4. 02:07:782 (1,2,1) - blanket you can be better Removed blanket
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 02:26:243 (1) - red anchor move on tick Fixed
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 02:32:243 (2) - just make curve slide Fixed
7. 02:36:859 (1,1) - avoid stack

Shortened the blanket slider so I will have to place the blanketed note elsewhere. This will fix the stacking problem.

• Normal

1. i dont agree not same DS ;w; 00:15:628 (2,3) - like here Probably will make a change in DS for the whole map.
2. and try drum mapping because your vocal rhythm something part so hard Here when vocals are more prominent it seems like a waste not to map them. However, I do map to the rhythm part as well.
3. 00:20:243 (4) - put in circle ;00:18:859 (1,2,3,4) - 00:20:705 (1,2,3,4) - that's same music so just use same rhythm Problem is that slider 4 links up with the next pattern, and so changing it to a circle will destroy the flow.
   - Case 1: I keep it - Improves flow and sounds nice, but is not consistent.
   - Case 2: I do not keep it - I lose some flow and when that is a strong beat, why waste it? However it is consistent.
   If I do a huge change in distance snap, then I may apply case 2
   
   
4. 00:41:013 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rhythm train too long; empty something point Removed 43:782
5. 01:05:013 (1) - suggest ;like this
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 02:39:974 (2,3,4,1) - avoid square flow and 02:39:974 (2,1) - here overlap too Yes it looks really cramped.

So 0.9x distance snap will still be fine, but I need to fix up the patterns.

• Hard

1. Do not triple spam that's strange to me
2. Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped:
   01:15:171 {75171}
3. 00:31:551 (6) - this note 00:31:782 (1) - stack here ;that's flow better
4. 00:44:936 (2,3,4) - that's overmapping;00:45:051 (3) - here is no sound You are right, although the triplet sounds nice.
5. 01:53:359 (3,6) - ^ Applied.
6. 02:44:705 (1,2,3) - do not stack 02:37:320 (1,2,3) - i recommend like here Ok
7. 02:58:782 (1) - avoid 3reverse Avoided
8. 03:16:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - add some slide Sure.
9. 03:24:628 (5,2) - stack I think I did that, probably the stacking thing is osu makes it look weird.

Thanks mod my map Well 2 maps when combined have a higher drain time than my map. However this is a small thing.
but i think this mapset need so many work
First,improve your mapping skills, and find mapping teacher
second, see more BNs,QATs,best mapper's map that's help for your mapping ability
Good luck~!

A nice chat with Taeyang

15:52 RVMathew: Hello Taeyang. How are you doing?
15:52 Taeyang: fine Thanks
15:53 RVMathew: do you do m4m's and stuff? By the way here is a small gift to you: p/4820131#p4820131
15:53 RVMathew: 4 more to go.
15:53 Taeyang: i only take M4M atm :3
15:54 Taeyang: oh
15:54 Taeyang: you already did it
15:54 Taeyang: ok i'll mod soon
15:54 RVMathew: well 4 more to go
15:55 RVMathew: buy my map is 3:30 *5 diffs, (well 4) so drain time is uneven
15:55 Taeyang: which map?
15:55 *RVMathew is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/506023 ClariS - Kokoro no Inryoku]
15:56 RVMathew: it has a custom skin, I was going to add more but my main computer died and it will only be operational tmmrw.
15:56 Taeyang: ok~! i'll mod soon!
15:56 RVMathew: You can ignore the final diff, as it has some pending mods
15:56 Taeyang: ok
15:56 RVMathew: Thanks. And i will mod another map to make the drain time fair
01:34 RVMathew: Hi again, thanks for modding my map. I do have a question though. What was the biggest thing you did not like about my map?
01:36 Taeyang: when i
01:36 Taeyang: t/359381
01:37 Taeyang: automod used,
01:37 Taeyang: find to easy your map problem
01:38 Taeyang: Easy: New combo
01:38 RVMathew: I mean that when you played it yourself, without any tool or such, was there something that you did not like or angered you?
01:38 Taeyang: http://puu.sh/mxZzm/0e2b1fa64c.jpg
01:39 Taeyang: here is NC point
01:39 Taeyang: hmm...
01:40 Taeyang: not Logical maps
01:40 Taeyang: i like this map
01:40 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/523532 Akiyama Uni - Odoru Mizushibuki]
01:40 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/433005 Halozy - Genryuu Kaiko]
01:40 Taeyang: that's really logical and fun
01:40 RVMathew: Ah. The reason may be is that I map with a ruler, also known as the distance snap tool.
01:41 RVMathew: In terms of rhythm it is logical, but then it may take away the fun.
01:42 Taeyang: come here
01:42 *Taeyang is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/506316 ClariS - Kokoro no Inryoku [Normal]]
01:42 RVMathew: here
01:43 Taeyang: 00:09:628 (1) -
01:43 Taeyang: like this really fine
01:44 Taeyang: BUT!
01:44 Taeyang: 00:17:013 (1) - 00:09:628 (1) -
01:44 Taeyang: that's same music
01:44 Taeyang: but not consistency
01:46 RVMathew: Ah. So you feel that because it is not consistent, people will not be used to the rhythm and may break?
01:46 Taeyang: hmm...
01:46 Taeyang: maybe
01:46 Taeyang: but rhythm term and pattern also important
01:47 Taeyang: you know what is it consistency?
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/475440 GARNiDELiA - grilletto (TV Size Ver.)]
01:47 RVMathew: yeah.
01:47 Taeyang: see his map
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/611261 SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:mizuki - &Z (TV size-English ver.-)]
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/797131 SPYAIR - I'M A BELIEVER]
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/374730 SPYAIR - Sakura Mitsutsuki]
01:47 Taeyang: his pattern really not fun
01:47 Taeyang: But rhythm and map really logicality
01:48 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/496830 StylipS - MIRACLE RUSH feat. Ogura Yui]
01:48 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/556634 Wakeshima Kanon - world's end, girl's rondo]
01:48 RVMathew: Oh ok.
01:48 RVMathew: Thanks. How do I save this chat?
01:49 Taeyang: ./savelog
01:49 Taeyang: if you need question about mapping
01:49 Taeyang: poke me ingame chat and send PM
01:50 Taeyang: when i not busy ,answer you
01:50 Taeyang: Good luck have fun mapping~!
01:51 RVMathew: Sure. Remember though that we have two very different mapping styles (I look at older style maps, but have the rhythm you find in todays maps).
01:51 RVMathew: Take care

1. A silent sliderslide is better than a silent slidertick on this music, try this out... (if you adjusted slidertick to 1)

1. 00:04:090 (1,2,1,2) - You should use less frequent new combos on this diff. I see on some parts that you use NC on every 4 white ticks. It should be on every 8 white ticks. Frequent NCs defeat the usage itself.
2. 00:12:859 (1) - This is Ez and you shouldn't be using 1/2 sliders and makes it complex...
3. On most part of the song, there is only 1/1 breaks and it is tiring for players who can't handle this. You should "leave plenty of recovery time."
4. 02:58:782 (1) - Spinner too short on this part (and also the recovery time)

1. 00:16:551 (3) - Delete note, there is no beat.
2. 00:24:628 (2) - Delete note, because of the high piano note at 00:23:936 (1)
3. 00:43:782 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 1/2 notes are very spammy on this part. Adjust some to 1/1
4. 01:53:936 (2,3,4) - Too hard imo. Make 01:54:166 (3,4) into a slider or something similar to that.
5. 03:08:705 (1,2,3,4), etc - ^

1. The diff name should be Average, Medium or something like that. I'll be asking BN regarding this.
2. 00:23:936 (1) - A slider point is out of the editing screen.
3. 01:49:090 (1,2,3) - This slider needs to be blanketed
4. 02:44:705 (1,2,3) - Stacked sliders this way are very confusing for some.
5. 02:58:782 (1) - Two 1/2 sliders would be better on this part imo.

1. Circle size should be 4.5 or 4 for the diffivulty spread (Mecheman Loves Meruru Now has CS of 4.5)

Neil Leo wrote:

[Hard-]
The diff name should be Average, Medium or something like that. I'll be asking BN regarding this.

Okoratu wrote:

Neil Leo wrote:

[Hard-]
The diff name should be Average, Medium or something like that. I'll be asking BN regarding this.

I wasn't even asked by Neil, but yeah I agree that there are more meaningful ways to label an easier hard
Average, Medium, Advanced, Intermediate are probably going to be all right.

RVMathew wrote:

Taeyang wrote:

• General

1. Inconsistency in [ComboColours]
   { Easy} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,55] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Hard-} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Hard} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Mecheman Loves Meruru Now} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   { Normal} :
   Combo1 : [85,190,0] Combo2 : [255,100,255] Combo3 : [255,153,35] Combo4 : [73,131,255]
   
2. Missing skin files in [Playfield] set
   play-skip.png
   play-warningarrow.png
   
3. Unused hitsounds:
   normal-hitwhistle2.wav
   
4. Wave hitsounds with possible delay >5ms:
   soft-hitfinish.wav
   normal-hitfinish.wav
   
5. Files unused:
   comboburst-2.png
   
6. Use one slidetick; sound better
   
   SPOILER

   
   
   I used slider tick rate 2 before, but the reason why I used tick rate 4 was because as my hitsounding involves adding a clap every 2 ticks, and sometimes they land in the middle or just after the middle of a slider. That means I have to use the tick method for having a clap sound. The problem with that though is that with slider rates of 2 or less, is that there is no tick for me to make a clap sound on. This only happens in 4-5 instances, but I cannot accept that.
   
   If someone else has a complaint with this then I will fix it.
   
7. this mapset why need 'hard-' diff? i think spread fine

A modder named Hendrix89 played my Hard and Mecheman's difficulty, and he/she said that the map felt quite overmapped. Rather than destroying the rhythm which I liked in my difficulty (this was 3-4 months ago), I decide to to make a Hard- (you guys will probably call this hard actually) difficulty which has fewer hitobjects, a slower slider velocity and much more player friendly. I also use rhythm patterns that you will find in the Hard difficulty, so people are prepared in advance for the much harder difficulty on hand.

• Easy

1. Use 2downbeat NC term Fixed
2. 00:22:551 (1) - this slide end here 00:23:474 - and put in 00:23:936 - here
3. 00:41:013 (1) - ^same 00:41:936 - end here 00:42:397 - here put in circle
4. 02:07:782 (1,2,1) - blanket you can be better
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 02:26:243 (1) - red anchor move on tick
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 02:32:243 (2) - just make curve slide
7. 02:36:859 (1,1) - avoid stack

• Normal

1. i dont agree not same DS ;w; 00:15:628 (2,3) - like here
2. and try drum mapping because your vocal rhythm something part so hard
3. 00:20:243 (4) - put in circle ;00:18:859 (1,2,3,4) - 00:20:705 (1,2,3,4) - that's same music so just use same rhythm
4. 00:41:013 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - rhythm train too long; empty something point
5. 01:05:013 (1) - suggest ;like this
   
   SPOILER

   
6. 02:39:974 (2,3,4,1) - avoid square flow and 02:39:974 (2,1) - here overlap too

• Hard

1. Do not triple spam that's strange to me
2. Inherit (green) timing line is unsnapped:
   01:15:171 {75171}
3. 00:31:551 (6) - this note 00:31:782 (1) - stack here ;that's flow better
4. 00:44:936 (2,3,4) - that's overmapping;00:45:051 (3) - here is no sound
5. 01:53:359 (3,6) - ^
6. 02:44:705 (1,2,3) - do not stack 02:37:320 (1,2,3) - i recommend like here
7. 02:58:782 (1) - avoid 3reverse
8. 03:16:090 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - add some slide
9. 03:24:628 (5,2) - stack

Thanks mod my map
but i think this mapset need so many work
First,improve your mapping skills, and find mapping teacher
second, see more BNs,QATs,best mapper's map that's help for your mapping ability
Good luck~!

I map with a ruler, also known as the distance snap tool.
Once my main computer is fixed I will apply these.

A nice chat with Taeyang

15:52 RVMathew: Hello Taeyang. How are you doing?
15:52 Taeyang: fine Thanks
15:53 RVMathew: do you do m4m's and stuff? By the way here is a small gift to you: p/4820131#p4820131
15:53 RVMathew: 4 more to go.
15:53 Taeyang: i only take M4M atm :3
15:54 Taeyang: oh
15:54 Taeyang: you already did it
15:54 Taeyang: ok i'll mod soon
15:54 RVMathew: well 4 more to go
15:55 RVMathew: buy my map is 3:30 *5 diffs, (well 4) so drain time is uneven
15:55 Taeyang: which map?
15:55 *RVMathew is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/506023 ClariS - Kokoro no Inryoku]
15:56 RVMathew: it has a custom skin, I was going to add more but my main computer died and it will only be operational tmmrw.
15:56 Taeyang: ok~! i'll mod soon!
15:56 RVMathew: You can ignore the final diff, as it has some pending mods
15:56 Taeyang: ok
15:56 RVMathew: Thanks. And i will mod another map to make the drain time fair
01:34 RVMathew: Hi again, thanks for modding my map. I do have a question though. What was the biggest thing you did not like about my map?
01:36 Taeyang: when i
01:36 Taeyang: t/359381
01:37 Taeyang: automod used,
01:37 Taeyang: find to easy your map problem
01:38 Taeyang: Easy: New combo
01:38 RVMathew: I mean that when you played it yourself, without any tool or such, was there something that you did not like or angered you?
01:38 Taeyang: http://puu.sh/mxZzm/0e2b1fa64c.jpg
01:39 Taeyang: here is NC point
01:39 Taeyang: hmm...
01:40 Taeyang: not Logical maps
01:40 Taeyang: i like this map
01:40 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/523532 Akiyama Uni - Odoru Mizushibuki]
01:40 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/433005 Halozy - Genryuu Kaiko]
01:40 Taeyang: that's really logical and fun
01:40 RVMathew: Ah. The reason may be is that I map with a ruler, also known as the distance snap tool.
01:41 RVMathew: In terms of rhythm it is logical, but then it may take away the fun.
01:42 Taeyang: come here
01:42 *Taeyang is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/506316 ClariS - Kokoro no Inryoku [Normal]]
01:42 RVMathew: here
01:43 Taeyang: 00:09:628 (1) -
01:43 Taeyang: like this really fine
01:44 Taeyang: BUT!
01:44 Taeyang: 00:17:013 (1) - 00:09:628 (1) -
01:44 Taeyang: that's same music
01:44 Taeyang: but not consistency
01:46 RVMathew: Ah. So you feel that because it is not consistent, people will not be used to the rhythm and may break?
01:46 Taeyang: hmm...
01:46 Taeyang: maybe
01:46 Taeyang: but rhythm term and pattern also important
01:47 Taeyang: you know what is it consistency?
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/475440 GARNiDELiA - grilletto (TV Size Ver.)]
01:47 RVMathew: yeah.
01:47 Taeyang: see his map
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/611261 SawanoHiroyuki[nZk]:mizuki - &Z (TV size-English ver.-)]
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/797131 SPYAIR - I'M A BELIEVER]
01:47 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/374730 SPYAIR - Sakura Mitsutsuki]
01:47 Taeyang: his pattern really not fun
01:47 Taeyang: But rhythm and map really logicality
01:48 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/496830 StylipS - MIRACLE RUSH feat. Ogura Yui]
01:48 *Taeyang is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/556634 Wakeshima Kanon - world's end, girl's rondo]
01:48 RVMathew: Oh ok.
01:48 RVMathew: Thanks. How do I save this chat?
01:49 Taeyang: ./savelog
01:49 Taeyang: if you need question about mapping
01:49 Taeyang: poke me ingame chat and send PM
01:50 Taeyang: when i not busy ,answer you
01:50 Taeyang: Good luck have fun mapping~!
01:51 RVMathew: Sure. Remember though that we have two very different mapping styles (I look at older style maps, but have the rhythm you find in todays maps).
01:51 RVMathew: Take care

Neil Leo wrote:

Hi, ordinary modding from my queue
[Overall]

1. A silent sliderslide is better than a silent slidertick on this music, try this out... (if you adjusted slidertick to 1) I actually like the slider slide. Anyways if I change slider tick, it will be to slidertick rate 2 (still fine) and then add sliderslide.

[Easy]

1. 00:04:090 (1,2,1,2) - You should use less frequent new combos on this diff. I see on some parts that you use NC on every 4 white ticks. It should be on every 8 white ticks. Frequent NCs defeat the usage itself. Fixed in Taeyang's mod.
2. 00:12:859 (1) - This is Ez and you shouldn't be using 1/2 sliders and makes it complex... That is a 1/1 slider I am using it currently. It does look short so I understand why someone may think it is 1/2 slider.
3. On most part of the song, there is only 1/1 breaks and it is tiring for players who can't handle this. You should "leave plenty of recovery time." The settings should compensate for that, and if I tried doing 2/1 or 1/1 everything goes upside down.
4. 02:58:782 (1) - Spinner too short on this part (and also the recovery time) Will map that bit.

[Normal]

1. 00:16:551 (3) - Delete note, there is no beat. Fixed
2. 00:24:628 (2) - Delete note, because of the high piano note at 00:23:936 (1) That ruins the rhythm. However, you mentioned about the piano note, which is a strong beat; I changed that area into 2 1/2 sliders, instead of a 1/2 slider with a repeat and a note. It sounds a lot better.
3. 00:43:782 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - 1/2 notes are very spammy on this part. Adjust some to 1/1 Instead, changed the rhythm to 2x 1/2 sliders with 1 repeat and removed 2 notes.
4. 01:53:936 (2,3,4) - Too hard imo. Make 01:54:166 (3,4) into a slider or something similar to that. Fixed.
5. 03:08:705 (1,2,3,4), etc - ^ Prepares you for the next difficulty.

[Hard-]

1. The diff name should be Average, Medium or something like that. I'll be asking BN regarding this.
2. 00:23:936 (1) - A slider point is out of the editing screen. Removed the repeat so I could do a different pattern and avoid this problem.
3. 01:49:090 (1,2,3) - This slider needs to be blanketed I did do that, but refined it more. It does introduce new problems though such as overlap, but some sacrifices have to be made.
4. 02:44:705 (1,2,3) - Stacked sliders this way are very confusing for some. Will fix it.
5. 02:58:782 (1) - Two 1/2 sliders would be better on this part imo. Fixed to 1 1/2 slider and 2x notes from Taeyang's mod.

[Hard]

1. Circle size should be 4.5 or 4 for the diffivulty spread (Mecheman Loves Meruru Now has CS of 4.5)
   I will probably keep cs5; if I do 4, it will be cramped. I have tried 4.5 but not in this iteration before. I only kept 4.5 until Hendrix89's mod, in which I redid everything and used cs5 while reworking it.

That's all I can mod for now. I recommend that you look for some BN-made or recently ranked beatmaps for you to have a guide on mapping. I did this on my 1st beatmap.
MLMN diff should have neat slider placements btw. Good luck on mapping!

1. SKINNING ELEMENTS: While skinning, try to use the whole elements which belong to the nature of each element. This means if you skinned hitcircle.png, then add all the elements that relates to it. Here's a list of them. Please, refer to this for further information.
   1. approachcircle.png
   2. hitcircleoverlay.png
   3. hitcircleselect.png
   4. followpoint.png
   5. lighting.png
   The same goes for section-fail.png there are few elements which must be added too:
   
   1. play-skip.png
   2. play-warningarrow.png
   There's a problem with naming your combobursts because comboburst-2.png isn't appearing anywhere. This is because your first comboburst doesn't refer to "one" so the second comboburst would never appear unless you rename it to:
   
   l comboburst.png must be renamed to comboburst-1.png (In this way, comboburst-2 will appear naturally while playing.)
   
2. BG FOLDER SIZE: It's not a bid deal but it would be better if you convert Stardust_Witch_Meruru.png into .jpg for reducing the overall weight of the set. Since you added some .png images, it would hurt no one if the file were .jpg instead of .png.

1. 00:47:013 (4,5,6,1,2) Over Easy difficulties, placing many circles together would get hard for beginners to click them properly because of the density of them. It would be better if you change some of them for 1/1 sliders which would fit awesomely in this part.
2. 01:36:859 (2) Please, remove the whistle of the slider-head to let the clap sound stronger here, just as well as you did here 01:35:013 -
3. 02:37:320 (4,5) Here I was waiting the double clap you used in the previous kiais which sound greatly here. Please, consider doing the same here too 02:44:705 (4,5)

1. 00:06:743 (2) Add a note here for consistency with the following patterns.
2. 00:36:628 (5) Ctrl + G here to develop a more readable flow. Consider doing the same here 01:48:628 (3)
3. 02:10:090 (1) Remove NC here. It's not necessary.
4. 03:08:474 (5,6,1) Oh please, don't do this kind of triplets on this diff because they would make more sense if you replace them for 1/4 sliders with one reverse. Consider doing the same here 03:23:243 (5,6,1) - 03:27:051 (4,1) -

HappyRocket88 wrote:

Hai from modreqs. I liked the song so here I am.

POSITIVE ASPECTS I can't deny how awesome the hitsounds fit with the song over all the difficulties, even in the easiest one. You did a great job there and seems you improved since the time you submitted the map. I love the first comboburst.png so bad so you should teach me to use transparent images like that on my maps. Keep working on it and never give up! Thanks. I have renewed vigor for completing this map.

[General]

1. SKINNING ELEMENTS: While skinning, try to use the whole elements which belong to the nature of each element. This means if you skinned hitcircle.png, then add all the elements that relates to it. Here's a list of them. Please, refer to this for further information.
   1. approachcircle.png
   2. hitcircleoverlay.png
   3. hitcircleselect.png
   4. followpoint.png
   5. lighting.png
   The same goes for section-fail.png there are few elements which must be added too:
   
   1. play-skip.png
   2. play-warningarrow.png
   
   I am currently thinking about what I want for my play warning arrows and stuff. I also want to do a complete skin so there is a lot more I have to do.
   
   There's a problem with naming your combobursts because comboburst-2.png isn't appearing anywhere. This is because your first comboburst doesn't refer to "one" so the second comboburst would never appear unless you rename it to:
   
   l comboburst.png must be renamed to comboburst-1.png (In this way, comboburst-2 will appear naturally while playing.)Ah I see.
   
2. BG FOLDER SIZE: It's not a bid deal but it would be better if you convert Stardust_Witch_Meruru.png into .jpg for reducing the overall weight of the set. Since you added some .png images, it would hurt no one if the file were .jpg instead of .png.

Changed. I manged to reduce the size from around 1.63mb to at least 468kb. That should help a lot with download.

[Easy] No major issues find. This diff is really great. Thank you.

1. 00:47:013 (4,5,6,1,2) Over Easy difficulties, placing many circles together would get hard for beginners to click them properly because of the density of them. It would be better if you change some of them for 1/1 sliders which would fit awesomely in this part. Changed 2 notes to a 1/1 slider. Also managed to make it symmetrical with 00:47:474 (5) - so it looks a lot better.
2. 01:36:859 (2) Please, remove the whistle of the slider-head to let the clap sound stronger here, just as well as you did here 01:35:013 - Fixed
3. 02:37:320 (4,5) Here I was waiting the double clap you used in the previous kiais which sound greatly here. Please, consider doing the same here too 02:44:705 (4,5) Fixed. I agree that we should make use of the claps.

[Hard-] First at all, this diff plays well but should be renamed to Advanced because of the overall patterning you manage. Thank you. Regarding the name, this has been the subject of controversy, but the reason why I put Hard- is because this is the hard difficulty, just with most of the hit objects simplified.

1. 00:06:743 (2) Add a note here for consistency with the following patterns. After asking Happyrocket for clarification, this is regarding a different note which I have added.
2. 00:36:628 (5) Ctrl + G here to develop a more readable flow. Consider doing the same here 01:48:628 (3) I like the current one for now.
3. 02:10:090 (1) Remove NC here. It's not necessary. Oversight. Fixed
4. 03:08:474 (5,6,1) Oh please, don't do this kind of triplets on this diff because they would make more sense if you replace them for 1/4 sliders with one reverse. Consider doing the same here 03:23:243 (5,6,1) - 03:27:051 (4,1) Removed those triplets because it does not make sense to have it. Even if I did your 1/4 slider with repeat, it does not make the music sound any better.-

[]
Overall not a bad map, but consider asking for more mods. There are still issues which could improve in all difficulties. Good luck!

Reditum wrote:

Now that the map is actually complete and not pending major changes, I can go ahead and mod it

Let's hope it was worth the wait

1. Very hard to mod (for obvious SP reasons), so this will most likely be a Suggestion or very, very fine adjustment mod
2. You stick to Distance snap 1.0x pretty strictly
3. All parts where are only coordinates or not any explanation why, are all for flow
4. 00:31:666 (7) - I'd put this to x:160 y:324 for cleaniness
5. 00:41:013 (1,2) - I'd put x:469 y:1 and 00:41:936 (4) - y:100
6. 00:45:628 (4) - x:332 y:36
7. 00:54:628 (5,6) - I'd NC one or other from these
8. 00:55:782 (1) - Middle anchor x:164 y:200 and first anchor x:200 y:264 after adjusting this you can go to timing point 00:56:128 and you see that next circles approaching circle follows sliders line perfectly
9. 01:09:859 (4) - x:92 y:308 and 01:10:090 (5) - x:40
10. 01:12:397 (1) - Last anchor to x:328 y:336 then move 01:12:859 (2) - to x:240 y:336
11. 01:36:397 (1) - better blanket if x:416 y:16
12. Pure suggestion 03:02:243 (5,6,7,8) - rotate these as whole first 45 degrees then 90 degrees anticlockwise and I think you get what I'm after here (Ofc there will be a lot of fine adjustment but it plays more nicely atleast for me)
13. 03:20:474 (4) - y:94 (being on same height as slider 7)
14. 03:25:320 (1,2,3) - Nicely added own sounds to song, I didn't even notice that these whistles were your made before I deleted those and played again

1. 00:06:397 (1,2,3) - Use same distance between these notes
2. 00:10:320 (3,5) - Overlap
3. 00:12:166 (3) - x:389 y:136 for flow
4. 00:14:013 (9) - No sound here, delete
5. 00:17:013 (8,9,10) - Make these blanket each other better
6. 00:18:397 (1,2,3,4,5) - Use same distance between notes
7. 00:18:859 (5) - NC
8. 00:20:243 (8,10) - stack 10 to sliderend
9. 00:20:705 (9) - NC
10. 00:24:397 (9) - ^
11. About all New Combos, you have way too long combos, it's not usual to <4 star map to have like 15 long combo, it's stream songs thing. Do something to every combo going over 10
12. 00:32:013 (10,11,12,14) - Overlap
13. 00:56:474 (1) - Ugly
14. 00:59:474 (2) - ^ and bad overlap with slider 1
15. 01:01:090 (1) - don't make slider overlap itself
16. 02:29:936 (1) - ^
17. 01:09:859 (1,2,1) - Overlap
18. 01:12:397 (6,7) - Proper blanket
19. 01:23:013 (7,9) - ^
20. 01:13:320 (8,4) - Easily avoidable overlap
21. 01:14:705 (3,4) - ^
22. 01:22:090 (4,6) - stack properly
23. 01:49:782 (6,8) - ^
24. 01:38:013 (2) - I'd delete this and make 1 last to red spike
25. 02:01:551 (8,1,2,3) - Slight overlaps
26. 02:03:859 (6,7,8) - ^
27. 02:08:705 (3,4,5) - you can make better square
28. 02:32:243 (5,6,7,8) - slight overlaps and there is pretty much later in this section
29. 02:44:705 (1,2) - blanket properly
30. 02:52:090 (9,10) - ^
31. 02:46:551 (1,2) - overlap
32. 03:05:013 (1) - x:100
33. 03:05:474 (3,5) - stack
34. 03:12:397 (3,6) - ^
35. rest of the song with same problems

[-Chocola-] wrote:

oh look another 2011 mapper

• Hard-

1. 00:07:320 (1) - you can move this slider from x:78 y:205 and this 00:08:243 (2) - from x:328 y:296, you will not miss the symmetry and the distance between will be 1,00x
2. 00:14:705 (1,2) - 00:22:090 (5,2) - nazi stack
3. I recommend you add Whistle in here 00:41:474 -, look cool and you make emphasis in vocal c:
4. 00:49:090 (2,3) - whistle in the first circle of both sliders, emphasis in vocal (same in 00:52:782 (3,5) - 00:56:474 (2,3) - )
5. 01:36:628 (2,5) - nazi stack
6. 01:44:936 (5,1) - this blanket can be improved, example https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4689341
   lol the only highjump in all map 03:04:782 (5,1,2,3) -, not sure if is a good idea, but looks ok
   
   Hard
   
   
7. 00:17:705 (3,5) - nazi stack
8. 02:29:936 (1,1) - blanket maybe?
   
   Hard+ (W.r.t Mecheman)
   
   
9. 00:21:628 (4) - I prefer you invert this slider (Ctrl + G), same in 00:25:782 (5) -
10. 00:50:936 (3) - Ctrl + G maybe? looks better the transition
11. 00:51:397 (4,3) - stack?
12. 02:58:551 (1) - remove this NC and add in 02:59:474 (4) -

Boruma wrote:

I'm still new myself, but I would like to try to help your map.

Easy

00:59:474 (1) - Extend spinner to next white tick. Typically for an easy, all notes, sliders, and spinners are set on white ticks from start to finish. The end of the spinner is set on a red tick.
01:58:551 (1) - Extend spinner to next white tick.
For these two above points, I would end the spinner on the red tick. I do agree that most of the time, spinners should end on a white tick when players are accustomed to hitting notes on the white ticks.

However, for the above spinners, the red tick is a vocal bit, and with a finish sound to complement the vocal bit, it would make sense to end the spinner on that. Ending on a white tick like you suggested works, but not as well as ending it on a red tick for this instance only.

Normal

00:48:859 (2,3,4) - Get rid of one hit circle to make this a double rather than a triple tap required. Typically for beatmaps below 2 stars, you don't find any triple tap patterns. I see. The point with this difficulty is for the beginning to be an extension of Easy, but near the end, the Beatmap transitions to a hard difficulty, which is why I utilize the triple tap.

00:52:551 (2,3,4) - Get rid of one hit circle here to make this a double rather than a triple tap required. Removed.
00:56:474 (3) - Get rid of the 3rd hit circle and make this a jump rather than a stack. It plays nicer that way. Removed and made a square pattern at the same time.
01:00:859 (4,5) - Remove the 4th hit circle and move the 5th slider back one half tick to where the 4th hit circle was. Then extend the slider one half tick forward. Applied
01:08:474 (4) - Remove the hit circle here. Applied
01:15:859 (4) - Remove the hit circle here. Applied
01:40:320 (2) - Remove the hit circle here. Applied
01:44:936 (1) - Extend the spinner to 1:46:551. It allows for more score deviation given longer spinner time. Plus, the vocals allow for it. Applied it
02:37:090 (4) - Remove the hit circle here and spread out notes. This part, I want to apply the triple tap, as it prepares the player for the next difficulty.
02:44:474 (4) - Remove the hit circle here and spread out the notes. Same as above
02:51:859 (4) - Remove the hit circle here and spread out the notes.Same as above

1. 00:09:166 (3) - move lower to improve flow image
2. 01:06:397 (4,1) - swap NCs around. same at 01:13:782 (5,1) - , 02:35:013 (5,1) - , 02:42:397 (4,1) - . This is because the vocals start a beat earlier, effectively moving the downbeat back one beat.
3. 01:35:936 (1,2) - missing whistle hitsounds here? also about the rhythm of these sliders, you have chosen not to have the slider head of the large white tick, but have at 00:36:397 (5,1) - . imo, it would be best to keep the rhythm for similar parts like these the same, as the (probably new) player would be familiarizing themselves with the rhythm, and this might weird them out a little
4. 01:51:628 (2) - A 2/1 slider then circle on the large white tick would play better, currently undermapped
5. 02:04:090 (2) - this rhythm might be better, currently undermapped image

1. 00:16:551 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you click on this timestamp, you can see that the pattern is literally just going around in a circle. I suggest changing the pattern up a little bit
2. 00:47:474 (5) - adding a circle here would make the rhythm more interesting imo,
3. 01:00:859 (4) - circle then a slider starting on red tick ending same place? sound at 01:01:090 - is pretty noticeable
4. 01:08:705 (4,5,6) - kinda boring, the kiai time should be the fun part of the map! compared to 02:07:320 (3,4,5,6,7) - , it's rather plain
5. 01:44:936 (1) - this spinner just kinda came out of no where, don't see any reason why not to map it :/
6. 02:14:705 (1) - circle at this time then move spinner to large white tick, it starts sooner than the easy ._.
7. 03:29:013 (5,6,7) - can probably replace with a 1/2 repeat slider

1. 00:19:090 (2) - not much sense to stack this on top of circle 1, maybe move it like this img
2. 00:51:859 (1,2) - I don't really recommend this pattern for hard, it's just so outlandish for a hard diff. also the rhythm could be better since the downbeat is covered by a slider end e.g. if you ctrl+g the rhythm at 00:51:628 (4,1,2) - , it would play a lot better
3. there's like 1/4 rhythms at 00:17:013 (1,2,3) - but then you don't use any until 02:24:628 (2,3) - . It would be better if there are occasional 1/4 rhythms throughout this space
4. 03:04:782 (5,1,2,3,4) - introducing jumps this late in the diff isn't a very good idea, it would be best to distribute jumps throughout the entire diff or not have jumps at all
5. 03:22:320 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this motion is very nice! i like

1. 00:19:090 (2,3) - shouldn't really be a jump here, should be at 00:19:320 (3,4) - instead. jump doesn't really fit here because no sound emphasised
2. 00:55:320 (9) - 1/2 slider?
3. 01:36:628 (2,3) - ctrl+g this rhythm, so the slider emphasises the vocals, like how you did at 01:35:936 (5) - . same can be done at 01:44:013 (2,3) -
4. 01:49:090 (6) - should really be a 1/2 slider here for the vocals, like how you did at 01:56:474 (1) -
5. 02:18:859 (1,2,3) - this kind of rhythm is kinda icky to do because it can easily be misread by the player. You can instead make slider one a repeat 3/4 slider, covering both blue and red ticks
6. 03:25:320 (1,2,3) - best to keep the style at 02:44:705 (1,2,3) -

1. 00:22:090 (5) - doesn't really make much sense to space or place this circle in such an awkward spot, since there's not much happening at that tick, other than the clap. compare to 00:29:474 (7) -
2. 00:30:397 (3) - looks and plays better if at x166/y173. I know you spaced out for the clap, but the tick after it should also be emphasised. Thus, equidistance would be the best option here
3. 01:30:628 (6,7,1) - don't see much of a reason for this triplet to be spaced out as such, same distance would be cool
4. 03:17:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern only works if there's an increase in something in the music, whether it's volume, pitch, etc. There is none of that in this part of the music, so I highly recommend not using this pattern
5. 03:29:936 (4,5,6) - omg, kiiwa sliders, *-* (i personally don't like them, but that's just my personal opinion)

Rizen wrote:

round twooooooooooo More than 1 and a half years sine you saw this map.

quick though because time is running outttt

Easy

1. 00:09:166 (3) - move lower to improve flow image Applied
2. 01:06:397 (4,1) - swap NCs around. same at 01:13:782 (5,1) - , 02:35:013 (5,1) - , 02:42:397 (4,1) - . This is because the vocals start a beat earlier, effectively moving the downbeat back one beat. Applied and for other difficulties I will change it as well
3. 01:35:936 (1,2) - missing whistle hitsounds here? also about the rhythm of these sliders, you have chosen not to have the slider head of the large white tick, but have at 00:36:397 (5,1) - . imo, it would be best to keep the rhythm for similar parts like these the same, as the (probably new) player would be familiarizing themselves with the rhythm, and this might weird them out a little Converted it to notes. The reason is that the slider before that has vocals that end on a 1/2 red but I extended that so it ends on a 1/1 white tick. This is different from from the part at 36s so I have to make do with 2 notes.
4. 01:51:628 (2) - A 2/1 slider then circle on the large white tick would play better, currently undermapped Applied
5. 02:04:090 (2) - this rhythm might be better, currently undermapped image

From Gamu's Mod until now, I never touched except changing its shape. I wonder why I never changed the rhythm? Applied the change

Sounds better.

Normal

1. 00:16:551 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you click on this timestamp, you can see that the pattern is literally just going around in a circle. I suggest changing the pattern up a little bit
2. 00:47:474 (5) - adding a circle here would make the rhythm more interesting imo,
3. 01:00:859 (4) - circle then a slider starting on red tick ending same place? sound at 01:01:090 - is pretty noticeable
4. 01:08:705 (4,5,6) - kinda boring, the kiai time should be the fun part of the map! compared to 02:07:320 (3,4,5,6,7) - , it's rather plain
5. 01:44:936 (1) - this spinner just kinda came out of no where, don't see any reason why not to map it :/
6. 02:14:705 (1) - circle at this time then move spinner to large white tick, it starts sooner than the easy ._.
7. 03:29:013 (5,6,7) - can probably replace with a 1/2 repeat slider

Hard-

1. 00:19:090 (2) - not much sense to stack this on top of circle 1, maybe move it like this img
2. 00:51:859 (1,2) - I don't really recommend this pattern for hard, it's just so outlandish for a hard diff. also the rhythm could be better since the downbeat is covered by a slider end e.g. if you ctrl+g the rhythm at 00:51:628 (4,1,2) - , it would play a lot better
3. there's like 1/4 rhythms at 00:17:013 (1,2,3) - but then you don't use any until 02:24:628 (2,3) - . It would be better if there are occasional 1/4 rhythms throughout this space
4. 03:04:782 (5,1,2,3,4) - introducing jumps this late in the diff isn't a very good idea, it would be best to distribute jumps throughout the entire diff or not have jumps at all
5. 03:22:320 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this motion is very nice! i like

Hard

1. 00:19:090 (2,3) - shouldn't really be a jump here, should be at 00:19:320 (3,4) - instead. jump doesn't really fit here because no sound emphasised
2. 00:55:320 (9) - 1/2 slider?
3. 01:36:628 (2,3) - ctrl+g this rhythm, so the slider emphasises the vocals, like how you did at 01:35:936 (5) - . same can be done at 01:44:013 (2,3) -
4. 01:49:090 (6) - should really be a 1/2 slider here for the vocals, like how you did at 01:56:474 (1) -
5. 02:18:859 (1,2,3) - this kind of rhythm is kinda icky to do because it can easily be misread by the player. You can instead make slider one a repeat 3/4 slider, covering both blue and red ticks
6. 03:25:320 (1,2,3) - best to keep the style at 02:44:705 (1,2,3) -

Hard+

1. 00:22:090 (5) - doesn't really make much sense to space or place this circle in such an awkward spot, since there's not much happening at that tick, other than the clap. compare to 00:29:474 (7) -
2. 00:30:397 (3) - looks and plays better if at x166/y173. I know you spaced out for the clap, but the tick after it should also be emphasised. Thus, equidistance would be the best option here
3. 01:30:628 (6,7,1) - don't see much of a reason for this triplet to be spaced out as such, same distance would be cool
4. 03:17:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern only works if there's an increase in something in the music, whether it's volume, pitch, etc. There is none of that in this part of the music, so I highly recommend not using this pattern
5. 03:29:936 (4,5,6) - omg, kiiwa sliders, *-* (i personally don't like them, but that's just my personal opinion)

I said quick mod, but this took two hours (rip study time)

\:D/

RVMathew wrote:

Rizen wrote:

round twooooooooooo More than 1 and a half years sine you saw this map.

quick though because time is running outttt

Easy

1. 00:09:166 (3) - move lower to improve flow image Applied
2. 01:06:397 (4,1) - swap NCs around. same at 01:13:782 (5,1) - , 02:35:013 (5,1) - , 02:42:397 (4,1) - . This is because the vocals start a beat earlier, effectively moving the downbeat back one beat. Applied and for other difficulties I will change it as well
3. 01:35:936 (1,2) - missing whistle hitsounds here? also about the rhythm of these sliders, you have chosen not to have the slider head of the large white tick, but have at 00:36:397 (5,1) - . imo, it would be best to keep the rhythm for similar parts like these the same, as the (probably new) player would be familiarizing themselves with the rhythm, and this might weird them out a little Converted it to notes. The reason is that the slider before that has vocals that end on a 1/2 red but I extended that so it ends on a 1/1 white tick. This is different from from the part at 36s so I have to make do with 2 notes.
4. 01:51:628 (2) - A 2/1 slider then circle on the large white tick would play better, currently undermapped Applied
5. 02:04:090 (2) - this rhythm might be better, currently undermapped image

From Gamu's Mod until now, I never touched except changing its shape. I wonder why I never changed the rhythm? Applied the change

Sounds better.

Normal

1. 00:16:551 (3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - if you click on this timestamp, you can see that the pattern is literally just going around in a circle. I suggest changing the pattern up a little bit I like to keep the void
2. 00:47:474 (5) - adding a circle here would make the rhythm more interesting imo, Applied.
3. 01:00:859 (4) - circle then a slider starting on red tick ending same place? sound at 01:01:090 - is pretty noticeable With the last iteration the modder said that by having to tap 3 times in a row it may be harder for newer players, so I moved that slider back. Made a change by using a 1/2 slider to go to the current slider.
4. 01:08:705 (4,5,6) - kinda boring, the kiai time should be the fun part of the map! compared to 02:07:320 (3,4,5,6,7) - , it's rather plain The 1st part of the map is an extension of easy but then for the 2nd part, I introduce some harder patterns.
5. 01:44:936 (1) - this spinner just kinda came out of no where, don't see any reason why not to map it :/ Mapped that part.
6. 02:14:705 (1) - circle at this time then move spinner to large white tick, it starts sooner than the easy ._. Applied it
7. 03:29:013 (5,6,7) - can probably replace with a 1/2 repeat slider For this part, the difficulty turns to a normal to a hard diff, so I have the 3 notes for a difficulty increase.

Hard-

1. 00:19:090 (2) - not much sense to stack this on top of circle 1, maybe move it like this img
2. there's like 1/4 rhythms at 00:17:013 (1,2,3) - but then you don't use any until 02:24:628 (2,3) - . It would be better if there are occasional 1/4 rhythms throughout this space
   What if I kill 2 birds with one stone? For point 2, I changed it to a 3/4 repeat slider, and because of distance snap, I am obligated to move note 2 and note 3. This is what I came up with: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4899465. The advantage is that I remove those stacks, and I do get symmetry between 1 and 4.
   
   
3. 00:51:859 (1,2) - I don't really recommend this pattern for hard, it's just so outlandish for a hard diff. also the rhythm could be better since the downbeat is covered by a slider end e.g. if you ctrl+g the rhythm at 00:51:628 (4,1,2) - , it would play a lot better It does sound a lot better when you ctrl+g it. I think I did that current pattern for the sake of symmetry. Changed.
   
4. 03:04:782 (5,1,2,3,4) - introducing jumps this late in the diff isn't a very good idea, it would be best to distribute jumps throughout the entire diff or not have jumps at all I see. I had a star pattern during the middle of the diff but was removed in previous iterations. The star should be fine but I will change to an alternative design.
   
5. 03:22:320 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - this motion is very nice! i like Thanks. Inspired by a point Shiirn Made for an earlier portion of my Hard- diff.

Hard

1. 00:19:090 (2,3) - shouldn't really be a jump here, should be at 00:19:320 (3,4) - instead. jump doesn't really fit here because no sound emphasised Applied.
2. 00:55:320 (9) - 1/2 slider? Applied
3. 01:36:628 (2,3) - ctrl+g this rhythm, so the slider emphasises the vocals, like how you did at 01:35:936 (5) - . same can be done at 01:44:013 (2,3) - Done
4. 01:49:090 (6) - should really be a 1/2 slider here for the vocals, like how you did at 01:56:474 (1) - Applied. Will also think of some new patterns
5. 02:18:859 (1,2,3) - this kind of rhythm is kinda icky to do because it can easily be misread by the player. You can instead make slider one a repeat 3/4 slider, covering both blue and red ticks Changed.
6. 03:25:320 (1,2,3) - best to keep the style at 02:44:705 (1,2,3) Applied-

Hard+

1. 00:22:090 (5) - doesn't really make much sense to space or place this circle in such an awkward spot, since there's not much happening at that tick, other than the clap. compare to 00:29:474 (7) - Tried a different position after changing the position of slider 4
2. 00:30:397 (3) - looks and plays better if at x166/y173. I know you spaced out for the clap, but the tick after it should also be emphasised. Thus, equidistance would be the best option here Sure. Again this was me just doing freehand.
3. 01:30:628 (6,7,1) - don't see much of a reason for this triplet to be spaced out as such, same distance would be cool Freehand stuff. Fixed
4. 03:17:936 (1,2,3,4,5) - this pattern only works if there's an increase in something in the music, whether it's volume, pitch, etc. There is none of that in this part of the music, so I highly recommend not using this pattern Tried a different pattern but it may end up having the same problem
5. 03:29:936 (4,5,6) - omg, kiiwa sliders, *-* (i personally don't like them, but that's just my personal opinion) Keep for now till I get better Ideas

I said quick mod, but this took two hours (rip study time)

\:D/

Still making changes; the post will be updated

Boobs wrote:

Easy (1.34 stars, 195 notes)

1. 00:11:474 (1) - Fix this slider, mismatched. Fixed: Refined it
2. 00:48:859 (2) - aaaaAAAAAAhhhhhHHHh. Aesthetic error. Closer to 00:47:474 (5) than 00:48:397 (1)
   
   Nice catch, fixed it
   
3. 00:52:551 (2,3) - OOOooooooooHHHHHHHhhh. I LIKE IT~ Thank you
4. 00:46:090 (3) - Slider end is placed on a looooooooooooooong white tick, and you know what that means. Change to
   
   Swapped it around. Will change in other places that have the same problem.
5. 00:55:782 (1,2) - Would look better being just standard curve sliders, not digging the LOW SLIDER VELOCITY RED ANChORS. Changed it, but it does not make that much of a huge difference imo.
6. 01:05:474 (3) - Don't like this because 01:06:397 (1,2) is rightly emphasized by sliders, but having a slider on 01:06:397 (1,2) cancels that. Do this instead:
   
   Applied. Will apply to other parts that have the same problem as well. The reason why I did that is that my way follows the vocals more.
   
   
7. 01:13:782 (1,2) - ^ same here ^ same here ^ same here ^ same here ^
8. 01:32:705 (1) - Fix to a nicer shape It looks nice already but I tried refining it a bit more
9. 01:34:551 (2) - two white anchor??? Not really grounds for dq isn't it? Fixed it but 2 white anchors would not affect it that much.
10. 01:45:166 (3) - it's misplaced...again. place this long slider to 01:45:628 (next long white tick) Changed it
    
    The reoccurring theme is the misplacement of rhythm. Mapping more complex songs is impossible without basic knowledge of rhythm so i'd suggest messing around with easy/normal maps. BTW, you should change the skin, i think it's awful to play with
    
    

Your NM request from p/5040843/ is done

22:08 RVMathew: Hi there. I am wondering if you could spare some time so I can clarify some things in the mod you wrote?
22:08 Boobs: yea sure
22:09 RVMathew: One thing you said at the end was to change the skin 'it's awful to play with', can you elaborate on that?
22:09 RVMathew: was it certain images that made it worse?
22:10 Boobs: having the same hitcircle as the endcircle
22:10 Boobs: the hitcircle is some-what already detailed
22:11 RVMathew: ok?
22:11 RVMathew: endcircle?
22:11 Boobs: if you have it on the slider end, it's harder to tell the difference between hitcircle and endcircle
22:11 Boobs: the end of the circle
22:11 Boobs: like https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/H8YtXUI.png
22:12 Boobs: the end circle and hitcircle are close to eachother
22:12 RVMathew: the thing is that for me I do not have the invisible sliderends 
22:12 Boobs: what about for people who do
22:12 RVMathew: so I assume that if I have to improve I must find a way to make the image transparent?
22:13 Boobs: make the end circle easier to read
22:13 Boobs: more transparent
22:13 Boobs: or make it different from the hitcircle
22:13 RVMathew: I see
22:13 RVMathew: I will try and look at that
22:14 Boobs: when the notes are clumped or stacked, it's harder to read
22:14 RVMathew: oh
22:14 Boobs: it's not deal breaker but it takes little more thinking
22:14 Boobs: it's harder for newer players
22:14 Boobs: hitcircle and endcircle are identical
22:14 Boobs: so you might struggle with which one to hit when their clumped
22:15 Boobs: hope you understand it better
22:15 RVMathew: I was always under the impression that by default, the hitcircle and endcircle were by default the same; the invisible slider ends were done as like a skin mod
22:15 Boobs: worded it better
22:15 RVMathew: I see.
22:16 Boobs: pretty sure you can change it so there is no sliderendcircle.png
22:16 RVMathew: I will check that out
22:16 Boobs: but i dont know if that's unrankable
22:16 Boobs: yea
22:16 RVMathew: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4940961 do you usually play with transparent hitcircles like this?
22:16 Boobs: i dont really play the game
22:16 Boobs: i use default skin
22:16 RVMathew: oh
22:17 Boobs: i dont know how it looks like on different skins
22:17 Boobs: hold up
22:17 Boobs: the skin's hitcircle/hitcircleoverlay should override all skins
22:18 Boobs: so that shouldnt be a problem
22:18 RVMathew: I play with a modified default skin with opaque hitcircles like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4940973 so to me it is pretty much the same. 
22:18 Boobs: oh
22:19 RVMathew: 'The reoccurring theme is the misplacement of rhythm. Mapping more complex songs is impossible without basic knowledge of rhythm' nice sentence btw
22:20 Boobs: xdddddddddddDDDD
22:20 RVMathew: implying that I have so sense of rhythm so why bother mapping in the first place?
22:20 RVMathew: how succint was I?
22:21 Boobs: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
22:21 Boobs: i mean
22:22 Boobs: just telling you to focus on placing notes in the write place
22:23 RVMathew: Fair enough, but be careful when using sentences like that, because it can be interpreted wrongly. 
22:23 RVMathew: Thank you for the clarifications and stuff. Have a nice day.
22:23 Boobs: ook

RVMathew wrote:

Updated: Mod-43


In the next update (Mod-44): I am planning to add extra skin images, which includes hitcircle.png, background and combobursts for other characters as separate download links. The reason is that I know that some of you may not like Kirino and probably like the other characters such as Ayase, Ruri (Kuroneko), Meruru etc. Therefore it would be nice if you could have a hitcircle of your favourite character.

In addition you can also sneak it into the folder without having to update the beatmap, which is nice.

More information will be added later if necessary.

PhantomHunt3r wrote:

i dont know how much help this would be but here is my end of the m4m

Hard+

00:54:166 (2,3,4) - this is my personal opinion but when playing this, it just felt off, (try putting the triples into a repeat slider?) same with 00:54:859 (6,7,8)
00:56:474 (2,3,4,5) - i think this is my sleep depravation getting to me but i think note 5 is not straght like 2 and 3 are Fixed by spacing out the notes a bit more.
01:50:474 (4,5) - try mirroring this on 01:51:628 (2,3,4) Tried getting the positions of the notes the same
overall i noticed a lot of triples, this is my personal opinion so you dont have to do it but try replacing them with some repeat sliders This map is partially overmapped in a sense since I start following the back bits more.

Hard

i felt like i was playing HR while playing this xD (could not find anything, other then the NC after triples)

kolgar wrote:

Hi, this is a m4m:

Easy

Nothing wrong found by me. Thank you.

Normal

AR=5? I think that is a bit too much for a 1.84* map. Don't let the SR fool you; AR5 is the optimal choice for this. Putting AR4 would be way too slow and decimal AR's would make little to no difference
00:12:859 (3,4) - Is there a reason for this not to be in a straight line? It looks nice. I changed it though so it is a bit curved.
03:29:013 (5,6,7) - I think you should change these three circles to be a 1/2 slider and a circle or 1/2 slider elongated into a 1/1 slider Changed to the former

Hard-

01:01:205 (1,1) - Between these two in a 1/2 time length is a missed beat Before I had a note there, but because people said that it was hard to recover after a spinner and then hit a note perfectly with 1/2 time length, I removed that. I would also say that new players (who are getting ready to play hard difficulties) would encounter a problem if I added a note 1/2 after the spinner.
02:15:166 (1,1) - :/ When you dont use 1/4 time spacing in your map, you should not put it in here. You keep doing it throughout the map, I would change it if I were you. I will keep it for now and see what others think.
02:24:628 (2,3) - I think this ruins this diff a bit, whilst your map is beíng 1/2 time spaced. I don't think that the vocal expression there is that much of a importance. And if it is, then try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5205057 I would ignore a good chunk of the vocal bit if I change it, so I will keep this.
02:52:090 (1,2,3) - What to write to this pattern. XC for anybody new trying this out, this pattern is too hard to play to fit into this difficulty imo. I will try and find a way to make them go into each other.
02:56:551 (2) - This one seems a little bit off. I tried fixing it myself, and the closest I got was snapping it to a 1/3 beat :/ The 1/4 position is the best I can get to. If I do 1/3, then it will be unexpected as there would be no way to tell I suddenly use 1/3 for that bit. I will keep it for now..

Hard

CS=5; Players who can play maps at that star rate can't snap this cs, please change it! Cannot change it as this will destroy the purpose of the difficulty, and cs4 would mean a complete remap.
I am sorry, but this difficulty makes me tired of this map, not because it is bad, just because I dislike most patterns. This means I did not check this difficulty properly

I understand. This map was built around cs5 as a long time ago maps used this as a standard. It is made a bit more difficult since I apply newer placement techniques with old style difficulty settings, which makes this map a bit more challenging than usual.

Hard+ (W.r.t Mecheman)

HP=6, CS=4.5; This is something you expect first at an Insane difficulty. I think you should lower the HP a bit at least. Will reduce the HP drain to 5. CS 4.5 is a compromise because with cs 4 everything overlaps and does not look nice.
This difficulty looks weird to me. The 1/2 circle parts are mostly linear, but the slider parts are super sharp, I think this is not a good idea, but leave it, if you want to. This was intended to be a freehand map and for the most part it is. I choose some linear patterns because it looks nice.
02:25:090 (3,4) - Nice addition to the map, I think you should have more doublets as circle-only in this diff Will change that and make it better.

General

This mapset has no major mistakes inside.
I would recommend changing something in the song setup. (Mentioned before)
Kiai destroys my eyes so I am sorry if I left something behind

Rhythm Frienemy wrote:

Yo! As per your idea here's the chatlog of the in-game mod

http://puu.sh/p0KuL/4118364b55.txt

do what you will with it, and good luck with the map ^.^

Tatsuyu wrote:

hi

Easy:

00:04:090 (1,2) - Blanket could look a little better, like so: http://puu.sh/p4FJc/10344b9c3f.jpg Fixed.
00:52:551 (2) - This slider might work a little better if it had a third red angle so the end of the slider would blanket a little better inside 00:53:936 (3) - The slider shape will be ruined
01:53:936 (5) - Consider bringing this over to the left to make 01:53:013 (3,4,5) - Into a triangle formation, like so: http://puu.sh/p4G6c/deba5012a4.jpg Fixed the pattern.

Normal:

02:24:397 (1) - Should probably be the same slider shape as 02:26:243 (3) - Just for aesthetic value Sorted it out

No problems with other diffs

sry for super small mod ;w; Every little bit helps

GL

IamKwaN wrote:

hello! busy enjoying my holiday xD That is nice. Hope you are having fun

Unicode Title: ココロの引力
Romanised Title: Kokoro no Inryoku
Artist: ClariS

Please leave the source empty and move it to the Tags if you insist on putting something irrelevant to the song there. The song does not appear in the anime and is only a track from the single - irony (where irony is the opening of the anime). I hope you know what I mean. I understand

References:
http://puu.sh/paaEJ/626d809f1a.png from http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/artist/clari ... y/SECL-909
http://puu.sh/pabhD/c2bbcc785a.jpg from Back of irony [Limited Edition] (SECL-906~7)

Good luck!

Monstrata wrote:

Hard+


I will rework this, but I will be applying what you have said into my rework, so all is not lost.

00:13:320 (1,2,3,1) - Spacing isn't intuitive from 3>1 Fixed.
00:49:090 (2,3,4,5,1) - Can you make this curve pattern nicer? 4>5>1 almost looks linear xP As it should be. Will refine it while keeping the linear curve
00:56:936 (4,5,1) - No jump from 5>1? Will change distance is necessary
00:57:858 (2,3) - I'm not getting the jump xP. The product of rotation and reflection along the axes. Will Fix it
01:12:859 (2,3,1) - Yea rhythm here doesnt play intuitively either. maybe add a circle on 01:13:320 - Changed rhythm pattern entirely
01:28:551 (4,5,1) - What's with the spacing here. It just looks bad to me when you go from 1.35 to 1.20. Fixed
01:30:628 (6,7,1) - Same, Spacing etc.. Changed
01:32:936 (2,3,4,5) - the overlap from 2>3 is already annoying imo... but when you add in doubles after the slider it just makes the pattern too much imo. Can you do something simpler?l2p son. Fixed
01:39:628 (5,6,1,2) - This spacing just looks unpolished xP it's really uneven. Tried an interesting path. 4-6 are 3 notes tucked underneath the sliderheads to improve neatness.
01:41:013 (4,5,1) - Same here, 4>5 and 5>1 look noticeably different in spacing, but its too small of a change to signify a jump or anything, so it just ends up looking unpolished.Sorted it out.
01:47:474 (1,2,3) - Confusing spacing. Same visual spacing, but one is 1/1 and the other is 1/2. Sorted it out
02:11:936 (3,4,1) - Spacing again. Sorted

[]

Okay just from this one diff, it looks like you really need to work on spacing, good luck. And you only check the diff which is radically different from all the other difficulties (All other difficulties are distance snapped)

General

So, I was told to give info about what skin I use; and I use the WWW 1.6.1 skin, which is colorless and transparent. If the skin is on in your beatmap, the sliders look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5656375 It fits decently with the hitcircles, but I'd still consider a custom sliderslide and tick for your beatmap, where the slider has a dimmed color, and is somewhat transparent imo I hope any of this info helped somehow lol :3

Easy

Normal

Hard-

Hard

Hard+

Spork Lover wrote:

Yo, M4M for ya after that great mod you gave me ^^

Color coding

Unrankable if unchanged
Normal Suggestion
Strong Suggestion
Other

General

So, I was told to give info about what skin I use; and I use the WWW 1.6.1 skin, which is colorless and transparent. If the skin is on in your beatmap, the sliders look like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5656375 It fits decently with the hitcircles, but I'd still consider a custom sliderslide and tick for your beatmap, where the slider has a dimmed color, and is somewhat transparent imo I hope any of this info helped somehow lol :3
I decided to go with RGB: 30,30,30 for the slidertrack, but the slidertick will stay the same. This will make it easier for people to distinguish between the hitcircles and the slidertrack. In addition, it will be easier for people who use invisible sliderends to read the notes now. I have also brightened up the colours again because the translucent hitcircle changes the overall combo colour.

Easy

There's some, erm, clear underboob in this background, and I don't feel that it'll be considered an "All ages" image Breasts are visible, so I found a more suitable background as an alternative. Thanks for notifying.
00:41:013 (1,2,3) - Consider reworking the first part (00:33:628 (1,2,3,4,5) - )so it's consistent with this one.
01:15:628 (1) - It's more common to start a spinner a bit later on an easy diff, consider moving it, so it start on 01:16:089? (Ending point is fine) Changed it, and added a note in its place.

I feel that there's a small lack of consistency when it comes to the rhythm during the different verses, it feels like you mapped rhythm how you felt was good for that time without taking the previous verse into account. (Stuff like 01:32:705 (1,2,3,1) - relative to 00:33:628 (1,2,3,4,5) - , which should be rhythmically related, or at least have the same audible beats, have long sliders in places where there are 3 single taps in the other part. I'd advice highly to try to change these things around a bit for this :3 My idea with this set is that as you go along, the difficulty gets a bit harder, which prepares players for the next difficulty. This will explain a lot of the consistency issues you have pointed out.

01:38:243 (4,5) - There should be a slider between the two notes here, since there's the "double clap" thing from the hitsounds I understand what you are trying to get at, but then the problem is that I will be introducing 1/2 spacing on the timeline herein which case that would throw a lot of easy players off. I will keep it for now.
02:04:089 (1) - I'd remove this NC, you havn't done an NC per measure up untill now as far as I recall ;o Oversight on my part. Fixed
Consistency thing applies to chorus too, long slider in the first one, reverses in the second. (And some other rhythm stuff)

03:29:936 (4,5) - Hi missing double clap :3 Fixed

Very simple and straight forward easy, but lacks consistency in a some spots, that would overall give the map a better vibe (I really like the hitsounding!)

Normal

I won't mention the consistency stuff here in detail, but it's basically the same concept. If it applies for the next diffs to an extent where it's important to address, I'll just write Consistency at the start of the post.

00:53:705 (4) - Delete this and make a new circular slider with only 1 anchor point instead of 3, it becomes more circular that way and honestly looks a lot better too, right now the curve looks kinda flat. Changed
01:09:628 (5,6) - Double clap? Fixed, although I had to change some of the patterns to still make it friendly.
01:46:320 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This looks like a peak in the map, but isn't in the song, imo there are too many notes here. Converted 6 and 7 into a 1/2 slider but left the rest as is. I think it should be fine.
02:15:166 (1) - There's a spinner here, but not in the first chorus, consider making this consistent for both. I changed the pattern from the first chorus to a spinner. The reason being that other than consistency for this difficulty, in the Hard- difficulty, there is a spinner present just before the end of the first chorus.
02:59:013 (1) - Spinner seems really short, I'd consider just removing this spinner all together and do a few more patterns. Changed that as well.

Hard-

Consistency (Not as much as the others tho, 'cause you use a lot more of the 1/2 beats.)
This one changes rhythm patterns in the last chorus, similar to the patterns that you may see on hard. But I will be reworking the last 2 parts of the final chorus where the vocalists say 'doki.....doki because right now it does not feel nice to hear.'
02:05:474 (1) - This isn't symmetrical, which you've been following for the past diffs as well as this one so far :3 Aesthetic things. I changed it so it will be fine.
02:24:397 (1,2,3) - I don't like how this looks, you should place 3 a bit to the side of the slider + give the slider a blanket with 1. Added. There is no way my little blanket cannot be this cute. Hehe
03:16:782 (4,3) - Why doesn't the long slider have a 1/4 reverse involved? Changed that to a 1/2 slider.

Hard

I've seen this mentioned a few times, but I'll just throw it out as well; CS5 on a hard = not the best idea, most people in the insane-extra range still have trouble with that stuff lol, but when you're a hard player, you can't adjust well enough to high CS to play it accurately, so I'll just leave a few suggestions for this one >//<
When I started playing, I did get a lot of old maps from my friends with CS5's in them and I also found old maps via previous OWC map pools etc. So I was used to CS5 Maps at an early stage. I know that if a new player joined today and played hard difficulties, more than 99% of the time they will find a hard diff which uses CS4, so to them CS5 will be something very new. I will not change the CS setting at all, but I will tone parts down so it will not be as daunting.

00:05:936 (1,2) - Some blanket stuff here that doesn't look completely up to par. Fixed
00:09:628 (1,2,3) - Transition's a little meh to me, I'd consider curving 3 downwards instead like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5656552 Remapped
00:23:013 (2,3) - If you do an increase in spacing, consider doing a long slider to add a small break to the player, so he can readjust to the patterns. Remapped
00:32:474 (3,5) - I feel that this overlap is pretty unhealthy, considering it's just a back'n'forth jump and not an aesthetic overlap. Remapped
00:33:628 (1,2) - Blanket issue.Remapped
00:56:474 (2,3,4,5) - These jumps are way too excessive considering this isn't a peak. Remapped

--- Afterwards it's basically the same types of issues that occur (Excessive jumps and blankets mainly), so I won't go more into that on this diff.

^ Generally there are some spacing issues where you could add long slider to emphasize the jump more, and then there are some blanket issues, and this is prominent during most of the diff, so look into that ^^

I am doing some remapping because currently it will be daunting for new players to play. I have done a lot of nerfs right now, especially the chorus which now has a 1.1x SV, and the final sections which also are now 1.1x SV. This will make it a lot more friendly to players.

Moreover, in the remap, I have decided to incorporate more patterns which help with the natural movement. 1/2 sections will remain the same after the remap, but the rest will be fixed so it looks more beautiful.

Hard+

This is the hardest diff for me by far in terms of making it so I am really happy that you especially modded this difficulty.

00:15:627 (1) - Remove NC, it's inconsistent with 00:08:243 (2) - Oversight. Fixed
00:32:474 (3,5) - Same kind of overlap as on Hard, feels weird imo Changed it for this one
00:40:551 (4,5) - Should be a slider, since 4 needs to be emphasized better Sure
01:23:474 (1,2,3,4,5) - Holy this linear flow from 2-4 doe is understarred, also 01:24:397 (4,5) - nazi blanket lol
01:32:474 (6) - I'd move 6 to around x:322 y:36 to avoid the overlap. Made a trapezoidal pattern
01:41:705 (1,2,3) - The 2 feels like a fill-in, and should be adjusted a bit, so it flows in better to 3. Fixed the movement by changing the pattern
01:47:935 (2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - This is probably my favorite pattern so far, gj on this. Thank you.
02:11:935 (3,4,5) - Make them the same horizontal distance from each other, aka move 5 more to the left. Rotated 4 as well for better aesthetics.
02:26:243 (1,2) - Doesn't sound too good, maybe two 1/2 sliders that are 1/4 apart? (Aka start on 02:26:243 - 02:26:589 - like the other two sliders, but end later?) This part is fine so I will not change it.
02:34:089 (2,3,4) - The perfect overlaps are inconsistent with the previous choruses. Fixed
02:42:166 (4) - Horizontal distance thing again :3 Changed
02:44:705 (1,2,3,4,5) - Nice pattern, I like Thank you Doro.
03:00:628 (4,5,6,1) - This transition is way too hard to angle for a hard player imo, not to say that the squares afterwards are pretty damn hard too (And imo excessive, considering you do a "typical" pattern at 03:03:859 (4,5,6) - I will try and rework the section and also change the typical pattern a bit.
03:05:474 (3,4,5) - Weird spacing, should be lower from 3 and below. Redid so I get the trapezium pattern.
03:09:974 (5) - Move this to 03:10:435 - on the timeline and relocate everything in that section a bit (A triple doesn't really fit the music too well there) Changed that. Will also apply that on the hard difficulty
03:22:089 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is right use of emphasis, you're doing at the end of a pattern, which feels a lot better. Thank you.
03:30:166 (6,1) - 1 feels pretty cramped with 6, maybe move it to make a triangle with 03:29:473 (3,6) - ? (I know you want it in the middle, but it doesn't look nice aesthetically that 6 is up in 1's face :^) I decided to move it from the middle so it forms a line like https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5674162


Final thoughts:
There are some consistency issues that I feel need to be touched upon before this can be pushed further into the ranking process, but the old style type of map is pretty dope, and fits nicely for this song, also, the hitsounds are really cool, and there's some nice ideas with the skin etc as well ^^ Good luck on this mapset, godspeed :3

Mijii wrote:

I tried to found issues on the last diff, but I didn't found any, cuz I'm new at modding.

The map looks pretty cool. On this map I only can help you with a star xD.

Bara- wrote:

From M4M

General

[General]
Wave hitsounds with possible delay > 5ms:
normal-hitfinish.wav
soft-hitfinish.wav
Fixed

Unused hitsounds:
normal-hitwhistle2.wav Removed

Easy

[Easy]
Set slidertickrate to 1. If you set it to 2, the 1/2 ticks will not display (for example on 00:06:397 (4,1,2). They are visible in editor, but not when playing!
00:39:628 (5) - This slidertick hitsounding here is really weird, and rather unexpected. People here a clap, right before the slider needs to be let go, so people might let go too early, causing them to miss the sliderend. And besides, 'the slidertick is blocked by the sliderend, so people might not know where it comes from

SPOILER

The problem is that by reducing slidertick rate to 1, the problem is that some of the slidertick hitsounds later on will not be audible.
00:47:474 (5) - ^^ 00:53:936 (3) - Etc. etc. etc. Same
01:03:166 (1) - Such a long slider feels rather awkward for the start of kiai. I think a 2/1 with a circle would be better I will change it, bye bye slider art.
01:32:705 (1) - Similar, it feels out of place (Applies to almost all 3/1 sliders)
02:02:243 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - Way too linear. Add some movement, now all movements are 90 degrees angles, which is quite harsh Done on purpose, just to give a change of pace from curves and whatnot. It is not difficult to play so I will not change it.

Decent diff, I dón't really like the 3/1, but ah well

Normal

[Normal]
00:18:166 (5) - The lack of emphasis is quite high, try this rhythm Sure

00:37:551 (1,2,3,4) - The high amount of off-beat make this rather awkward. Please add some notes at the white ticks, so it feel more natural But then I will end up with a long chain of notes. I will see what I can do.
00:38:936 (3,4) - Oh and this looks rather bad. Try making it symmetrical or something like that It is fine
00:39:859 (4,5) - Refer to first suggestion Again I will see what I can do
00:47:243 (4,5) - ^^ (etc.) Same as above
01:43:090 (5,6,1,2) - Please use the same rhythm as 00:44:013 (7,1) - Ok
02:02:243 (1,3) - Feels way too long. The music is 1/1, you even hitsound it that way, yet you use 2/1 sliders. Please shorten them Sure
02:08:935 - Add a circle for the claps Sure
02:59:012 (3,4,5) - This is an absolute no-go, it's wayy too cluttered for a normal. People will likely hit the wrong circle first Changed to a stack

The amount of offbeat sliders is really high, which really make this diff feel weird to play...

Hard- ------> Advanced from now on.

[Hard-]
Please call this advanced. Hard- doesn't give much information I finally relented and now will rename it advanced, but I will rename it hard if I put custom diff names for the last 2 difficulties..
00:11:474 (1,2) - Rather weird polarity. Try to start the 3/4 slider 3/4 earlier and give it a repeat Focused on vocals, so it is fine.
00:22:090 (5,2) - Stack Stack leniency problem. Cannot do anything about it.
00:54:859 (4) - I don't hear any 1/4 here (they are audible at 00:54:166 (2) - but not at (4)) Changed that part so it follows 01:52:782 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - . Will also apply this to the rest of the difficulties after hard
01:43:090 (5,2) - ^^ Fixed
02:15:282 (1) - This ends at the snares, 01:16:205 (1) - This ends at the downbeat Changed so it ends at the downbeat
Quite a decent diff!! ......

Hard

[Hard]
Cs5? seriously? You can better change it to 4, or increase Hard+'s CS to 5.5 or higher. The fact that there is no spread in it makes this really weird. Note: I don't think CS5 is bad, I have used CS5 for some of my hards too (even 5.7 once) (and cs 6 for insane)
If I change it to cs4, requires a whole new remap and it will be the same as advanced in terms of aesthetics. In that case I would just delete this, and the whole point of this difficulty is that it is built around cs5. And simple movements are used because I am introducing people to a cs5 hard. By introducing people, I mean people who have not experienced a cs5 hard (they may have played cs5 difficulties, but not on a very recent map, especially when the length of the map is more than 3 minutes long.
If I increase cs of 'Attraction' to 5.5 or over, the difficulty will be ruined.

00:16:551 (3,4,1) - This reads rather weird. Why not a triangle? (4) to 177:239 for example The current placement is fine and leads on nicely to the next note.
00:33:628 (1,2) - Rip blanket Fixed it
00:54:974 (7) - I don't hear any 1/4 See advanced. Removed a lot of overmaps
01:01:205 (1,1) - Recovery time for Hard is around 1 beat. This is 1/2 Changed it
Overall a decent diff, 2 complaints

The polarity needs to be improved.Patterns such as 02:56:243 (3,4) - are really weird to play, since you skip the beat, and have a 3/4 gap (as opposed to the 1/1-1/2 gaps which are common). Reverse sliders, or patterns as 02:52:090 (1,2,3) - work much betterIt is still following the vocals and with distance snap it should not be a problem. I have tested this map hundreds and hundreds of times to make sure the rhythm is playable and does not trip anyone up.
The aesthetics need to be much better. Certain blankets were horrible, and having a 0.92x DS to fix it doesn't hurt. It'not an easy where spacing needs to be consistent.
The map is built around distance snap, and if I introduce a lot of patterns such as star patterns and what not, that would destroy a lot of players. Star patterns are already hard in cs4; with cs5 that will be really really hard.

Hard+. -----> Attraction from now on

[Hard+]
Rename to Light Insane please Custom name.
CS 5 or higher for a better spread please I will not do that, the reason is that the map is already difficult since the notes are placed freehand, and making it cs5 or higher will make it very very hard to aim, and hence ruin the difficulty.

You often use symmetry, which I really like, but be careful! for exmaple, look at 01:45:397 (1,2,4) -
If you want perfect symmetry, you need to Ctrl G 4, so all distances are the same (2.26 instead of 2.26-157)

00:52:320 (2,3,5,6) - It isn't perfectly symmetrical (nazi, I know) I have been thinking of doing a different pattern anyway.
01:15:166 (4,5) - Stacks like this don't really play that well. Please space them I will put 5 where 6 is and move 6 onto 1 as a stack.
01:36:858 (3,4) - ^^ (etc.) Same deal
03:16:782 (1) - Why is there an NC here, while there is not one at all the other times 03:02:012 (4) - 03:05:705 (4) - 03:09:397 (3) - 03:13:090 (3) - 03:20:474 (3) - 03:24:166 (3) - 03:27:859 (3) - Oversight
I actually really like this difficulty! It's really well made, and the usage of symmetry is absolutely brilliant. A few fixes on the circles which are stacked under the previous slider's tail and this diff is absolutely perfect (maybe a few polishing mods, but ah whatever) Interestingly I prefer the other difficulties over this because this was me placing notes freely whereas the hard diff especially is more structured, though you may disagree over that.

Good luck!!!

Net0 wrote:

IRC

SPOILER

2016-08-20 00:05 Net0: hey there o/
2016-08-20 00:05 RVMathew: Hi there
2016-08-20 00:05 Net0: did you watch me playing?
2016-08-20 00:05 RVMathew: how are you doing?
2016-08-20 00:05 RVMathew: yeah
2016-08-20 00:05 Net0: flow is nice
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: liked it
2016-08-20 00:06 RVMathew: It did seem that you hit certain parts earlier than usual
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: yeah AR problem
2016-08-20 00:06 RVMathew: I understand
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: but there were a part when i draw
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: a question mark
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: that part felt weird
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: but it's all playable
2016-08-20 00:06 RVMathew: I did not spectate you the whole game, but was it near the beginning part?
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: and good
2016-08-20 00:06 RVMathew: Oh I see
2016-08-20 00:06 Net0: I might suggest one or two things?
2016-08-20 00:07 RVMathew: sure
2016-08-20 00:07 Net0: ok then
2016-08-20 00:08 Net0: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5888872
2016-08-20 00:08 Net0: 00:11:013 (5,1,2) -
2016-08-20 00:08 Net0: This slider placement
2016-08-20 00:08 Net0: is good
2016-08-20 00:08 RVMathew: I see
2016-08-20 00:08 Net0: considering you need to use DS
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: I see why it could not be overlapped with some previous objets
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: but the second one
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: 00:11:936 (2) -
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: could be moved a little bit
2016-08-20 00:09 RVMathew: I see.
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: so that the sliderhead
2016-08-20 00:09 Net0: and sliderend
2016-08-20 00:10 Net0: makes a better structure
2016-08-20 00:10 Net0: with the previous ones
2016-08-20 00:10 Net0: this is my mappig style
2016-08-20 00:10 Net0: so feel free to ignore this
2016-08-20 00:10 RVMathew: Do you mind showing me an image of it
2016-08-20 00:10 Net0: 00:07:320 (1,2) -
2016-08-20 00:11 Net0: Move a little bit foward to see how the circles are working
2016-08-20 00:11 Net0: on this two sliders
2016-08-20 00:11 Net0: http://puu.sh/qHBrq.jpg
2016-08-20 00:11 Net0: The overlapping of them could be more equal
2016-08-20 00:11 Net0: but again
2016-08-20 00:12 Net0: this is just my non-sense way of doing stuff >.<
2016-08-20 00:12 Net0: 01:38:013 (4) -
2016-08-20 00:12 Net0: Vocals instead of the beat
2016-08-20 00:12 Net0: <3
2016-08-20 00:13 Net0: however some ppl will probably not agree with it, be prepared in the future
2016-08-20 00:13 RVMathew: True. I focus more on vocals
2016-08-20 00:13 RVMathew: but because I do that, I ignore some of the beats so that may mislead a lot of people
2016-08-20 00:13 Net0: 01:46:320 (6,7) -
2016-08-20 00:13 Net0: FOUND
2016-08-20 00:13 Net0: this is what made me confused
2016-08-20 00:14 Net0: usually you want sliders starting in downbeats (whiteticks)
2016-08-20 00:14 Net0: specially in this difficulties
2016-08-20 00:14 Net0: especially*
2016-08-20 00:14 Net0: MY ENGLISH OMG
2016-08-20 00:14 RVMathew: True. Unfortunately the vocals start on the red ticks
2016-08-20 00:15 RVMathew: I think I will see how I can restructure this map
2016-08-20 00:15 Net0: this part
2016-08-20 00:15 Net0: if you want to follow vocals
2016-08-20 00:15 Net0: you will need to make a slider 1/1 reverse
2016-08-20 00:15 Net0: or a slider 2/1
2016-08-20 00:15 RVMathew: hmm
2016-08-20 00:15 Net0: starting here
2016-08-20 00:16 Net0: 01:46:320 -
2016-08-20 00:16 Net0: ending here
2016-08-20 00:16 Net0: 01:47:012 -
2016-08-20 00:16 Net0: this two objects tend to leads the person to believe he's playing the beats
2016-08-20 00:16 Net0: that's what made me confused here
2016-08-20 00:16 RVMathew: That is a fair point.
2016-08-20 00:18 RVMathew: I think I would make that part follow the rhythm
2016-08-20 00:18 RVMathew: as you said, thr rhythm is a much better thing to map, especially for newer players.
2016-08-20 00:19 Net0: just a simple example
2016-08-20 00:19 Net0: of a 2/1 slider
2016-08-20 00:19 Net0: that could follow vocals
2016-08-20 00:19 Net0: http://puu.sh/qHBOs.jpg
2016-08-20 00:19 RVMathew: I understand
2016-08-20 00:20 Net0: the slider going up also tend to lead the person
2016-08-20 00:20 Net0: to feel an increasing sound
2016-08-20 00:20 Net0: of the vocals
2016-08-20 00:20 Net0: at least i feel that way
2016-08-20 00:21 RVMathew: That is a very interesting way of putting it
2016-08-20 00:21 Net0:
2016-08-20 00:22 Net0: i could mention nazi stuff
2016-08-20 00:22 RVMathew: Thank you so much sir/madame for looking over this map
2016-08-20 00:22 Net0: But I'm not that much of a heavy modder
2016-08-20 00:23 RVMathew: I see
2016-08-20 00:23 Net0: only simple suggestions
2016-08-20 00:23 Net0: \o/
2016-08-20 00:23 RVMathew: if you want kds for the post feel free to post it. I don't need the sp for it

1. 02:46:089 - Why not have the kiai end here and start again at 02:46:550 - ? Since lyrically, it's quite similar to each start of the other kiais. So this would give this area the same effect too.

1. 00:53:935 - Tbh, it sounds quite odd that you're following the vocal with the slider here, yet don't follow it for the full amount of counts. The vocal ends at 00:55:781 - . But you have another slider there instead. Frankly, I think just extending this slider and having a circle at 00:56:243 - would fit the rhythm a bit better here.
2. 02:37:320 - and 02:37:781 - From what you did in the first two kiais, it seems to fit the rhythm a bit better if you Ctrl+G this rhythm. So it falls as 02:37:320 - slider and 02:38:704 - circle.
3. 02:59:473 - and 03:00:397 - Vocally, this would work out as just one slider. Compared to every other time this rhythm happened, this one seems a bit forced. Since you used a spinner before. And a bit longer slider, would give the same effect of a spinner here.

1. Relatively solid difficulty. Only thing that bothered me was the stacking towards the end, since it seemed a bit sudden. But maps generally follow a rise in difficulty as they go on, so it's understandable.

1. 00:13:550 - and 00:13:781 - Having this stack under 00:12:281 - looks a bit messy.
2. 01:43:320 - and 01:44:243 - Are you missing a clap on these points? Or was this intentional?
3. 02:37:320 - / 02:37:666 - / 02:38:012 - These sliders should be as close together as 02:44:704 - / 02:45:050 - / 02:45:397 - are.

2. Why is the CS smaller in this difficulty than your Attraction difficulty?
3. Consider making this AR 7.5, so you don't have 3 difficulties of AR 7.
4. 00:05:473 - and 00:05:935 - For a Hard this is a pretty big jump.
5. 01:38:935 - Either straighten this slider, or make the shape of it a bit more obvious that it's not straight. Because it currently just looks really weird.

1. Consider making the AR 8, same reason as in Hard.
2. 02:37:320 - / 02:37:666 - / 02:38:012 - Even if this is an insane, I'd still have these sliders touching a bit. Just to show that they're right after each other.
3. 02:44:704 - / 02:45:050 - / 02:45:397 - I'm glad you listened to my suggestion months ago, of making it go around her face. Good job!
4. 02:52:089 - / 02:52:435 - / 02:52:781 - Space these a bit more evenly, like I suggested for 02:37:320 - .
5. 02:59:473 - / 02:59:820 - / 03:00:166 - Same issue as above.
6. 03:02:243 - and 03:02:473 - These two circles should be spaced the same way 03:02:012 - and 03:02:243 - are spaced.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Avoid setting stack leniency to a point where you have perfectly overlapping consecutive hit objects. This setting is used if stacking is damaging to patterns that exist in a map. It is usually a good idea to keep it enabled.
Manual stacking is acceptable as long as it's still readable while playing.