Thanks for increasing more maps which need to overmapped to surepassed this rules
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95% of posts here disagree with that new rule, so pls stop that and reconsider your work on this one.
Looked through it, it's looking more like 100% from anyone that didn't make this decision. The only place I see agreement is for the approval rule.
Who does this benefit?
Mappers? No, it's incredibly limiting.
Players? No, it gives them less variety to pick from.
..why?
that would be good
As solely a player and not a mapper I think this is completely stupid. I love the variety that multiple insanes/extras and guest diffs bring. PP weights need to be fixed(technical/sliders worth more, jump patterns less), we DON'T need to be limiting variety and creativity in mapsets. That is one of the GOOD things about mapping right now.
Also this "restrictions" (i don´t call it restructure) may decrease the amount of maps instead of rebalance the difficulty for all players.
I've made a mapset with a fucking ton of difficulties and I finished it yesterday. Now I've got to delete all my hard work? Fuck it.
also, in before this thread is inevitably locked to shut the community up ..~
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It's worth mentioning that, under these new rules, NONE of the maps currently on the "Most Played Beatmaps" would have gotten ranked.
Isn't that an obvious sign that this is a terrible decision?
Isn't that an obvious sign that this is a terrible decision?
I do not really agree with the new structure of the spread I mean for example if the spread between easy and normal is kinda huge,it needs another normal,a new one normal and the old one being renamed to Advanced or if the spread between hard and Insane is too kinda huge it needs a difficulty named hyper or light insane but yes,the difficulties which causes problems with the spread can be tuned down just my though.
Also I agree with the spread for approval mapsets regarding Insane and Extra because there are some players who cannot pass the Extra difficulties let's say or passing the high bpm streams.Just my opinion.
Also I agree with the spread for approval mapsets regarding Insane and Extra because there are some players who cannot pass the Extra difficulties let's say or passing the high bpm streams.Just my opinion.
nice to know you guys had the time to proofread your thread etc. but can't even schedule a meeting.Loctav wrote:
let me fix that. 10% were not online.Desperate-kun wrote:
Most of the members of the council were not online when this was discussed.
Happy Valentine's Day to people on Asia.
#BestAprilFoolsDay
oh wait, it's Valentines Day! Enjoy chocolate everyone <3
oh wait, it's Valentines Day! Enjoy chocolate everyone <3
Come on, this completely ruined and ignored current mapping stuffs.
this shit is pretty entertaining to watch i can't even lie
I guess no more to add here.Lust wrote:
changes like this reminds me why i dont want to be involved with the ranking process anymore
95% of posts here disagree with that new rule, so pls stop that and reconsider your work on this one.
Spy wrote:
lmfao
the best ironic phrase 2k16ztrot wrote:
Hello everyone, ztrot here with some exciting new news!
this is put in the beatmaps section
so please
QATs
DQ thisrule map im begging you
so please
QATs
DQ this
is this when strawpoll comes in handy? or is it too hard to make one
0.2 1.69 3.74 5.24 10.0 best spread
Nozhomi wrote:
I guess no more to add here.Lust wrote:
changes like this reminds me why i dont want to be involved with the ranking process anymore
95% of posts here disagree with that new rule, so pls stop that and reconsider your work on this one.
Looked through it, it's looking more like 100% from anyone that didn't make this decision. The only place I see agreement is for the approval rule.
Who does this benefit?
Mappers? No, it's incredibly limiting.
Players? No, it gives them less variety to pick from.
..why?
All I see here is someone having OCD and needed a ruleset to calm themselves down from it.
Yuii- wrote:
Happy Valentine's Day to people on Asia.
I feel like this is one of the issues where you kinda want a consensus when everyone is actually there, even if 10% doesn't agree, the entire structure behind the beatmap shouldnt be able to be changed, as it is arguably the biggest part of the entire video game.
Zero community discussion. Even before considering how awful some of these new rules are - to have this simply rammed down our throats is a joke. At least we know how you really feel about this "community" now.
This is way too limiting and it's obvious the negatives of this change far outweigh the sole positive.. It's clear by the levels of backlash this post has received and I hope there is consideration to compensate for or revert these changes..
or just completely removingXiMerx wrote:
how about putting this into guidelines thank
that would be good
Rules and Guidelines are from now on solely pushed by the Council and their discussions.osu! dictatorship
This Spread™ isn't really a good thing I guess after reading the thread lol...
I really hope you guys can reconsider that diff limitation tho. What's wrong with having more options for the player?
I really hope you guys can reconsider that diff limitation tho. What's wrong with having more options for the player?
itll be soon until peppy comes in and tells everyone to wank wank dick dicks shut the fuck up
2015 was great
holy. the limiting to 1 diff per difficulty level will ruin good spreads NotLikeThis
Don't worry, just make a 1 star diff of itHomestuck wrote:
RIP my two hour long undertale marathon
Nice. This completely ruined current mapping theories.
Oh god, i have to do something for this community.
Let's change the rule!
But i won't make any real discussion and poll because people won't agree with this nonsense
Let's change the rule!
But i won't make any real discussion and poll because people won't agree with this nonsense
Side wrote:
PLz n0 k1ll m4pp3r sp1r17 kthx
This is absurd.
Goodbye guest difficulties.
Goodbye long, difficult marathon maps.
Goodbye big mapsets with a variety of difficulties to play.
Goodbye guest difficulties.
Goodbye long, difficult marathon maps.
Goodbye big mapsets with a variety of difficulties to play.
quit is better
How come we don't have a "+1" button? Because this comment is PERFECT.Asahina Momoko wrote:
the best ironic phrase 2k16ztrot wrote:
Hello everyone, ztrot here with some exciting new news!
Yes. I seriously don't understand what good this could possibly accomplish.PinkHeart wrote:
So that means I can't rank two Insane of different styles just because they got same stars?
As solely a player and not a mapper I think this is completely stupid. I love the variety that multiple insanes/extras and guest diffs bring. PP weights need to be fixed(technical/sliders worth more, jump patterns less), we DON'T need to be limiting variety and creativity in mapsets. That is one of the GOOD things about mapping right now.
After checking my calendar, I am now certain it ain't april fools' yet. Can't say any of the changes would be good in my opinion. If a beatmap is good, why should it not be ranked just because it lacks lower difficulties? Why shouldn't two good insanes be ranked in the same map set?
tldr; imo the changes are fucking retarded
tldr; imo the changes are fucking retarded
I need remap my GDs, or own mapper need improve his diff. or idk, oke. I just a flow river~
I love you CXu, you resume it perfectly ♥CXu wrote:
I feel discouraged at trying to map now :'(PoisonPanda wrote:
This is absurd.
Goodbye guest difficulties.
Goodbye long, difficult marathon maps.
Goodbye big mapsets with a variety of difficulties to play.
calm down moe ppls
we can make 1903280192380912star diff and can get ranke now
its very interesting rule
we can make 1903280192380912star diff and can get ranke now
its very interesting rule
The more the restriction on mappers, the more the frustration and pressure they have
To be honest, these rules are terrible since it limits the freedom of creating a map
I don't see any reason that mapsets are needed to be limited to one of each difficulty level per game mode
More difficulties can provide a larger variety for players to play, and allow them to experience different kinds of mapping style in one map
Is this a fault?
More difficulties can provide a more perfect diff-spread for the map, players can select a appropriate difficulty to play and have fun
Is this a fault?
Stop limiting our creativity please
We are black and blue because of the higher restriction of ranking criteria
To be honest, these rules are terrible since it limits the freedom of creating a map
I don't see any reason that mapsets are needed to be limited to one of each difficulty level per game mode
More difficulties can provide a larger variety for players to play, and allow them to experience different kinds of mapping style in one map
Is this a fault?
More difficulties can provide a more perfect diff-spread for the map, players can select a appropriate difficulty to play and have fun
Is this a fault?
Stop limiting our creativity please
We are black and blue because of the higher restriction of ranking criteria
well this is truly the worst idea, ever
it's been said multiple times, but having limitations on the amount of difficult maps is something that absolutely no one asked for, why was this even thought of in the first place? what the fuck?
secondly, FORCING difficult marathon maps to have insanes is just
god
how did you guys come up with this
imagine if this rule came out earlier and furioso melodia or tengaku was forced to have an insane difficulty
the reason these maps are so special is BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE DIFFICULTY AND ITS HARD AS SHIT and it's the mapper's vision on what he wanted to make with the map, difficulty-wise
this is the exact same kind of logic mappers would use to "hit a certain difficulty star rating" through the use of very intense sections, not fitting the song, except opposite
you are forcing mappers to make something easier than their intended vision of the song and thats ridiculous AND time consuming
it's been said multiple times, but having limitations on the amount of difficult maps is something that absolutely no one asked for, why was this even thought of in the first place? what the fuck?
secondly, FORCING difficult marathon maps to have insanes is just
god
how did you guys come up with this
imagine if this rule came out earlier and furioso melodia or tengaku was forced to have an insane difficulty
the reason these maps are so special is BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE DIFFICULTY AND ITS HARD AS SHIT and it's the mapper's vision on what he wanted to make with the map, difficulty-wise
this is the exact same kind of logic mappers would use to "hit a certain difficulty star rating" through the use of very intense sections, not fitting the song, except opposite
you are forcing mappers to make something easier than their intended vision of the song and thats ridiculous AND time consuming
Guess I'll go map a 5* CS6 Insane for my approval map then
Well, i can already smell that this will crash some currently pending beatmaps.ztrot wrote:
At last, we altered the requirements for Approval beatmaps. Approval mapsets must have 1 difficulty that is either an Easy, Normal, Hard or Insane. Your mapset must contain an Insane difficulty if an Expert or Ultra difficulty is present. This means that every Approval containing only an Expert or Ultra difficulty must receive a second difficulty. If you do not wish to map more than one difficulty for your Approval sets, we would advise you to keep the single difficulty at Insane level or below.
Also this "restrictions" (i don´t call it restructure) may decrease the amount of maps instead of rebalance the difficulty for all players.
Can;t there be a "cummunity's voice" poll about it?
This is ridiculous then how we can balance the gap the hard is too hard or something like that? make more easier? that is not a solution
fuck a donkey™Anxient wrote:
itll be soon until peppy comes in and tells everyone to wank wank dick dicks shut the fuck up
So you're stating that easier diffs require much less effort than Ultras so it's an unimportant thing? Is this game exist only for the 8 star maps?ztrot wrote:
Easy Normal Hard Insane Expert < and if you can make a proper spread you are rewarded to break away and test your limits as a mapper and make a ultra diff
I don't know why is that even need to be more clear. Good mapsets with good difficulties and spread should be ranked. No? How does having more diffs would even hurt it?ztrot wrote:
it is to streamline the mapping process make things more clear as I have stated
Actually I think that Easy Normal Hard Insane Expert Ultra nameset is nothing but a name. So the community already knows that what fits to each difficulty, so they know that Light Insane is easier than Insane and harder than Hard. Why having this kind of difficulty is bad? Who decided that "next to Hard should be always harder as much as the Insane - Hard gap"? Is (Insane - Hard)/2 gap bad? Why?ztrot wrote:
That being said as long as there is progression why do you need two insanes in the same set?
Len wrote:
its very interesting rule
Waiting for this!!Len wrote:
calm down moe ppls
we can make 1903280192380912star diff and can get ranke now
its very interesting rule
Democratic People's Republic of osu!
Clearly, nobody likes these new changes.
PLEASE, CHANGE THESE. THEY ARE COMPLETELY RETARDED.
PLEASE, CHANGE THESE. THEY ARE COMPLETELY RETARDED.
I was gonna voice my opinion on this but then realized this thread is getting 3 pages of said opinion every minute.
says something doesn't it hehe
says something doesn't it hehe
Don't be ridiculous. Of course you don't get a choice in what happens.Bara- wrote:
Can;t there be a "cummunity's voice" poll about it?
I 100% believe that a lot of mappers won't map anymore if this rules are already finalized
WutFace DansGame
Really now? This is going to kill at least half of the current mapsets from having a chance of being ranked. Come on now...
Really now? This is going to kill at least half of the current mapsets from having a chance of being ranked. Come on now...
This.Idealism wrote:
WutFace DansGame
Really now? This is going to kill at least half of the current mapsets from having a chance of being ranked. Come on now...
I've made a mapset with a fucking ton of difficulties and I finished it yesterday. Now I've got to delete all my hard work? Fuck it.
E m i
and what about the mappers who exist out there that love a song so much they map tons of difficulties for it all on their own? rip to them too.Shiguri wrote:
rip lazy mappers
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So there can only be one 'ultra' difficulty? Does that mean that map sets like this will no longer be allowed?ztrot wrote:
You can add one Ultra difficulty past an Expert difficulty that does not have to increase linearly in difficulty with the rest of the spread. Keep in mind, that Ultra is a placeholder term, used to reflect a high end difficulty that has not been specified with a name yet. We put that name in place, so you guys know what we are talking about when we want to refer to the high end difficulties of a mapset.
Just why?ztrot wrote:
Secondly, we limited the amount of difficulties of the same level per game mode. Every mapset is limited to one of each difficulty level per game mode. While this appears very limiting at the beginning, the hybrid set rules stay intact. Don't forget that every keycount in osu!mania is considered as individual game mode, too! If you wish to get your mapsets with multiple difficulties of the same level ranked, we advise you to split it off into a new mapset.
well this is fucking retarded
the days of
osu file format v15 are upon us
osu file format v15 are upon us
Who came up with this idea in the first place?
Tho I do agree with allowing one or more "ultra" diffs, but not the linear spread.
Tho I do agree with allowing one or more "ultra" diffs, but not the linear spread.
no plsAnxient wrote:
the days of
osu file format v15 are upon us
UR MUM! Hewl noh, Rito pls fix ResidentSleeper
??Anxient wrote:
the days of
osu file format v15 are upon us
also, in before this thread is inevitably locked to shut the community up ..~
this thread shows the demand gap between staffs and community is quite huge
0 qf map day will soon
0 qf map day will soon
lol, i think you mixed up valentine's day and april fools.
Clearly with every single osu! player ever stating their disapproval, this is stupid.
Well, there are still Light Insanes, Hard+ etc. shouldnt be a problem.mintong89 wrote:
This is ridiculous then how we can balance the gap the hard is too hard or something like that? make more easier? that is not a solution
As if it wasnt hard enough to rank maps in this day and age.
Rip quality mapping.
Absolutely disgusting.
Rip quality mapping.
Absolutely disgusting.
rip osu
worst idea ever
worst idea ever
HEY MOM!!!!!!!! IM MAKING 129073109237901232130971630912739021STAR DIFF NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH 1*EASY 2*NORMAL 3*HARD 4*INSANE 5*EXTRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH 1*EASY 2*NORMAL 3*HARD 4*INSANE 5*EXTRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This sounds purely useless. You're restricting the amount of difficulties for the sake of it.
Len wrote:
HEY MOM!!!!!!!! IM MAKING 129073109237901232130971630912739021STAR DIFF NOW!!!!!!!!!!!
WITH 1*EASY 2*NORMAL 3*HARD 4*INSANE 5*EXTRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
these rules make light insanes and hard+ extinctCome[Back]Home wrote:
Well, there are still Light Insanes, Hard+ etc. shouldnt be a problem.mintong89 wrote:
This is ridiculous then how we can balance the gap the hard is too hard or something like that? make more easier? that is not a solution
I swear, if this isn't a troll, RIP osu!.
Really hoping this is.
Community poll anyone?
Really hoping this is.
Community poll anyone?