Side wrote:

Hey here's a thing (en español) :v

[Final Moment]

Considera cambiar el nombre de la dificultad a "Last Breath". "Last Breath" suena muy padre porque en la pagina de sumisión pusiste esa cita que habla sobre morir y ascender asi que "last breath" siendo el último suspiro es lo que uno hace al morir y ademas suena edgy xP
Uve una votacion con algunas personas sobre lo que el nombre de dificultad debe ser y " Last Breath " fue uno de ellos . Sino
todo el mundo pensaba "Final Moment" era mejor. " Last Breath " tiene un " humano " sentir y algo organico. Es una buena
nombre de dfficulty, pero creo que la mia es mejor jaja ^^;

Creo que podrías bajar el AR a 9.7. No está mal pero asi lo podria leer ;_; Es esto o AR10, gomennasai


00:01:025 (1) - Me parece mejor tocar la primera nota del piano en vez de que ahi termine el spinner. Mejor termina el spinner en 00:05:750 - y empieza la nota en 00:05:825 - Para darle mejor efecto. Tambien podrias silenciar el final del spinner con un timing verde para que suene mejor. La nota la podrias poner sobre 00:08:225 (1) - por ejemplo o como tu veas pero creo que si es importante resaltar el piano de esta forma. La spinner es para el tiempo de drenaje. Si puede ser en tiempo de drenaje 5 minutos sin necesidad de utilizar un spinner, que haria uso de un slider. I'd have to check. Fixed the latter.

00:08:225 (1,1) - La verdad no me gusta tanto el intro de esta forma. No se si es porque tengo parcialidad a la version rankeada pero en general no creo que los sliders complementan bien al piano. Tal vez si al silencio entre el piano pero a mi no me parece mas importante eso. Claro que no te voy a pedir que lo cambies pero si sugiero que cambies el patrón a una forma similar a los demas slider algo asi para que el patrón sea consistente. Tambien podrias cambiar 2 a una nota si no prefieres el slider como hiciste en 00:13:025 (1,1) - Me gusta la ranked version y como el piano esta usando círculos también, pero de nuevo, esto es por el tiempo de drenaje. Sliders también
traer un poco más de creatividad y algo más "Interesante " . Círculos para que siempre consiguen aburrido MUY rápido , aunque me gusta también, no estar en desacuerdo con usted allí.

00:20:225 (1) - No me gusta este repeat. El piano en 00:22:625 - es demasiado fuerte para que sea parte de un slider end. Prefiero que sea una nota o un slider como 00:17:825 (1) - Cambiado para ser coherente con otras partes . Me gusta la diversidad en el repeat slider, pero supongo que no sirve para todos demasiado bien.

00:32:750 (5) - Creo que este slider deberia de terminar en 00:32:900 - como 00:30:350 (4) - y despues agregar una nota 00:32:975 - Para seguir el ritmo de los hitsounds (que sonaba bien hasta llegar aqui )

00:37:550 (5) - ^ Si piensas seguir un ritmo estilo freestyle o como quieras llamarlo, es mejor ser consistente. Ademas suena mejor asi :3 I should freestyle? Maybe.

01:10:475 (9,10) - Seria mejor como 1/4 slider. Lo digo porque el effecto que das con 01:09:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - es de triple y triple para complementar al piano que me gusta mucho pero pienso que deberia terminar con otro ritmo de triple. Ademas con este cambio se siente mas natural por los dos triples que diste previamente. Estoy pensando en usar un ritmo o el uso de sliders diferente para hacer esa parte se destacan un poco más . Teniendo
2 triples repeat sliders + seguido de un triple+no repeat slider se ve un poco raro . Idealmente me gustaría hacerlo tres veces, pero teniendo en cuenta el ritmo, yo no creo que pueda. Veré lo que puedo llegar a porque me sentí incómodo con esa parte también.

01:15:125 (5) - No me gusta mucho este flowbreak. Si te fijas como hiciste el flujo en 01:13:025 (1,2,3,4) - y 01:13:925 (5,6,1) - vas hacia la derecha como reloj pero ahi en 01:14:825 (3,4,5) - decides ir hacia la derecha y regresarte hacia 01:15:425 (1) - con un salto brusco. No se siente natural y dando el flujo que diste previamente se siente muy inesperado. Sugiero algo asi. De esta forma 5 sigue siendo un slider lineal como los otros, tambien fluye hacia 1 igual como los otros y ya no es un salto fuerte que no va muy bien con la cancion IMO.

01:22:325 (1,2,3,4) - Se podría ver mas parejo. Muy facil con slider to stream:v :ekoro:

01:26:225 - 01:46:625 - La verdad no creo que esta sección necesite tanta intensidad en los saltos. Otra vez no se si es porque prefiero los anti jumps de la otra version pero creo que asi se siente mas natural. Claro si no lo quieres cambiar esta bien pero creo que podrías hacer algo muy interesante con anti jumps y sliders lentos aqui. Creo que puedo crear anti-jumps con este tipo de notas 01:28:325 (5,6) - Me gusta la sensación de "que lo acerque a un estrecha" con los triángulos . Los anti-jumps todavía me gusta mucho y fue entre eso o lo que hice y lo hice lo segundo. Maybe I do anti-jump for a few notes, we'll see.

01:50:225 (1) - Si la intención aquí fué usar los slider para complementar al violín mejor divide este slider en 2 con el segundo empezando aqui 01:50:825 - Se que hiciste la forma de este slider asi para complementar la segunda nota pero no es lo mismo que tocar la nota a sostenerla y cambiar de direccion no se si me explico. Tiene que ver mas con tu mano de tocar que con tu mano de apuntar.

02:00:125 (1,2,3,4,5) - No me gusta. Por la musica esta seccion todavia sigue un poco calma pero decides usar saltos de 1/4 y es mas en esta forma x_x La verdad no me gusta para nada. Una stream normal indicaría el cambio de intensidad mejor yo digo pero si quieres quedarte con los 1/4 jumps mejor usa otro patrón que fluya en una forma mas circular como este ejemplo (claro que lo puedes hacer mejor que esto solo para mostrarte a lo que me refiero) Y lo mas importante es cambiar 5 a una nota normal porque ahi termina el ruidito de la cosa que mapeaste no en 02:00:800 - [/color]

02:03:650 (2,4) - Yo digo que podrias cambiar los a un 1/2 slider como 02:03:425 (1) - y una nota en 02:03:875 - y 02:04:475 - Para darle mas énfasis a la batería. Ahh true true, I can make it more intense than how I had it xP Changing...

03:00:875 (15,16) - Creo que sería mejor cambiar esto a un 1/4 slider como hiciste 02:59:675 (15) - que viene siendo la misma parte porque el piano hace lo mismo aqui tambien. Vale la pena ademas porque lo continuas con mas deathstream entonces este sirve como un mini break de cierta forma.

03:15:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - He notado que normalmente usas el flujo del stream para complementar o a la bateria o al piano y es un buen efecto. Por eso pienso que aqui por ejemplo podrias darle un cambio de movimiento al stream en 03:15:725 (5) - 03:16:025 (9) - 03:16:325 (13) - Para complementar al piano. Seguramente hay otras partes donde esto aplica pero no creo que vas a querer buscar y remappearlas :v x_x

03:38:225 (1,2,3,4,5) - Si te puedo sugerir algo aquí :3 medio dificil captar todo pero el cambio es que 1 y 2 sean stack porque un antijump aqui se siente natural y sería consistente con 03:32:225 (5,1) - Y luego puedes mover 03:40:625 (1) - donde estaba 2 y asi no cambias tu pentágono :v El primero me moví un poco , los otros que mantienen la forma en que lo tenía. Lo hago como la forma en que lo hice debido a la estructura, sin embargo, el suyo no era nada mal tampoco.

03:48:425 (2,1) - No creo que 1 debería de regresar en el mismo lugar porque el piano no toca la misma nota. Creo que le daría un mejor efecto si hicieras algo asi SS1, SS2, SS3. Lo que hice fue mover 03:49:025 (1,1,2,3,4,1,2,1) - todo junto a x: 480 y: 152 y luego mover 03:52:175 (2,3,4) - a x:424 y:192. Intentalo creo que te va a gustar :3

04:45:425 (1,2) - Mueve 1 sobre 04:39:425 (1) - y 2 a x:303 y:179. Así se ve mas limpio y ademas las 3 notas hacen una linea con el mismo espacio :v oops, i fixed it lol

04:53:825 (1) - Me parece que el piano toca otra vez en 04:55:100 - Tambien 04:55:925 (1,2,3) - parecen empezar un tic de 1/8 snap mas temprano es decir mueve 1-3 a juntos a 04:55:887 - . Tambien 04:56:375 (4) - termina en 04:57:650 - para seguir al piano correctamente. Creo que esto seria cuestión de snapping no se si te lo dejarian rankear asi pero estoy seguro que ahi estan los sonidos del piano.
No creo que esta parte es el momento correcto , así que voy a estar pidiendo a alguien con más experiencia para ayudar a tiempo correctamente porque se ve offbeat ahora.

04:57:725 - Aqui parece empezar ese ruidito que usaste para mapear el stream que sigue. Considera empezar el stream talvez con 1/4 sliders o como quieras pero que empiezen ahi. Tambien seria muy padre si usaras los green timings aqui para que el volumen aumente con el ruidito :v
Incluí más beats y los timing points. good idea

04:59:000 (1) - Tal vez termina el spinner en 05:06:125 - Porque ahi me parece que para el sonido por completo. soz :[


Muy buen mapa. Eso fue todo lo que encontré y la verdad creo que si aplicas alguno de estos cambios el mapa estaría perfecto. Suerte!

Good luck!

Minakami Yuki wrote:

1. Just some complaints.
2. My personal suggestions.
3. Highly recommended.
4. Unrankable, you have to fix it.

Final Moment

1. 00:08:225 (1) - you can add some inherited points to make the ticksound lower, or since you havent use any silenced sliderslide, you can use silenced sliderticks. Not sure which you think is better to have: silenced sliderslide or silenced ticksound, or both?
2. 00:12:725 - 00:13:925 - these silenced sliderends are quite weird when playing, 20% is enough, 5% is not so necessary. This suggestion is for all the sliders which silenced. changed them all the 20%
3. 00:21:425 - ^ also to the slider repeats
4. 00:25:550 (4,5,6) - please dont stack like this, it makes the flow looks weird and not good for playing i'll disagree because of how i structured this particular section
5. 00:27:275 (8) - I'm quite not sure but I think that 1/4 slider fits better than 1/6 repeat slider here the 1/6 hits all the beats as to not undermap and to me it doesn't play bad at all.
6. 00:29:075 (3) - ^
7. 00:40:625 (1,2,3) - that tripet looks awkward, remove 00:40:700 (2) - ? removed and fixed the section a bit to hit all the sounds.
8. 00:48:950 (14,1,2) - this 1/4 jump doesnt flow well imo, make them in a curve looks better. changed into 2 more kick sliders, though, im unsure about the placement of the sliders. still fixed.
9. 01:05:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - here is nothing special so I think if you want to use small spacing, also make the 1/4 slider jump smaller than what 01:06:125 (5,6,7) - is now. Like http://puu.sh/kUlHh/e38e9cbf96.jpg made smaller slider jumps.
10. 01:16:775 (1) - I dont think it's necessary to nc here. fixed.
11. 01:22:550 (4,1) - spacing is too big and suddenly, move them a bit bigger than 01:22:250 (4,1) - is enough
    fixed the gap so it's not as big as it was before.
12. 01:44:225 (1) - that 0,0 is too hard to catch lol ;w; no one ever uses 0,0 sadface
13. 01:46:625 (1,1) - just mention if you forget what I said in 00:12:725 - 00:13:925 - they are fixed
14. 02:20:150 (16) - why that 16 if you hear closely, the sound comes at that time, so I change direction to match it. hardly noticeable during play, but its there
15. 02:20:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - curve stream highly recommended in this part. y u no bold the flow I think is fine however? I try make stream with curve and it doesn't look right.. :s
16. 02:28:025 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - more whistles needed here
17. 03:23:300 (1) - maybe you have to make this slider's route more clear. Like 03:23:225 - may cause confusions. Slider ball helps stop confusion i think
18. 03:22:325 (13,14,15,16,1) - that's quite impossible because 13 to 16 is a similar distance and it suddenly become much larger when 16 to the long slider, you should make the spacing of stream increases gradually but not keep the same. Also, keep them 03:22:325 (13,14,15,16,1) - in a curve for easier playing i've seen people hit these all before, but I fixed the spacing to be more gradual and less kill at the slider because it wasn't so nice.
19. 03:55:775 (10,11,12,1) - the flow is awkward, you'd better move 12 to somewhere like 03:54:725 (4) - I fixed the note placement a little to flow a little better
20. 04:55:925 (1,2,3,4) - time to relax, not jump, lol http://puu.sh/kUn7D/09e390df45.jpg okok no jumps
    

Also just some complaints, the streams in the kiai just use one, mostly two spacings, which doesnt show the ups and downs of the music.
For example, 02:50:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - can be some how smaller. and enlarge 02:51:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - , which can emphasize the piano sounds.
but that's just a recommendation, you can keep it yourself. kiai is hardest part...maybe repeat sliders could work, but I think the space streams help the map as whole seeing as how it's mostly streams in general.

Secondly, quite a number of whistles are missed in the streams. You can add them when there is a obvious paino sound, it works well.
there is so many piano sounds and I suck at hitsounding that I really need help with it all :s


Good luck. I hope I can help it another time lol.

a loli wrote:

00:25:550 (4) - move this slider up a bit so the spacing to the next circle is similar to 00:25:025 (1,2), or adjust that double. Keep consistent with your blanketing like 00:34:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6) Adjusted position (ever so slightly because slider leniency will give the same spacing roughly) and fixed the blankets.
00:27:275 (8) - this 1/8 reverse slider should be moved a bit closer to the next slider Spaced for emphasis.
00:27:875 (4) - maybe move this slider to the left a bit to smoothen the jump Adjusted slightly to make better blanket/crossbow shape thing. Very minimal, can't really move elsewhere otherwise it breaks what I'm trying to create.
00:29:525 (3,4) - ctrl+g would look better i think, so that the last kick slider is being overlapped on its start point, and also smoothens the jumps Interesting idea, very possible I can do that but I'd have to rework the next combo completely and move it to the 2nd quadrant. I'll take this into consideration and will make the change once I see that I can pull this off.
00:38:675 (3) - move these a bit further so they blanket properly like 00:34:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ehh idk
00:42:575 (8) - shorten this reverse by 2 so it follows the beat, also you can add another circle after it so the stream that comes after won't end as an even stream Nice catch, fixed.

01:29:825 (1) - cutting my life bar
01:44:225 (1) - ^ Still confused as to whether or not these are unrankable issues, tbh. I can move them elsewhere yes, but why is this a concern exactly? Not to sound rude but there's an entire playfield for mapping that I should be able to utilize.

02:39:725 (3) - change to 1/2 slider? A bit awkward to have a pause in the the middle of a deathstream, even if you are emphasising the beat it's on. A slider can emphasise it just as much as a circle, without the gap between the next note It does feel awkward yes, so I made a slider. feels better now : 3


don't have any problems with the rest of the map i think, your map broke my osu in editor so i can't look at it right now. i might give it another look later but they are just streams and they're following a consistent flow so they look fine to me Feel free to make further posts if you find anything else that should be fixed and whatnot!

Anxient wrote:

HOW DO I MOD THIS

Final Moment

00:27:275 (8) - ctrl g, coz better entry and repeat slider goes downwards, into the next note, not away. The difference in spacing creates more emphasis for when the player drops down to the next slider.
00:47:375 (10) - no ctrl+g? Took a little bit of remapping but I managed to make this look better and include double stream blankets with the sliders.
00:55:775 (4,1) - blanket trigger pl0x ..Fixed
01:07:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - this looks bad. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure thisll play bad too. It doesn't play bad cuz I see people can hit all these, and I just follow how I see the music : x
01:20:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - why don't you move use similar DS, or gradually increasing DS jumps for this? This follows a note-blanketing pattern I have going on, as well as some overlappy stuff.
01:39:425 (1,2,3,4) - no offense, but I think this is really lazy. try to make it more interesting.. Show me what's interesting then?? I mean, it's 4 dead piano keys, what more can you do. But nah, it doesn't look interesting, nor does it 'feel' right because of high spacing, so I' fixed it. I think. Next time, try provide alternatives because "interesting" is different for everyone. ^^;
01:44:225 (1) - this placement is a bad idea imo. place it near the previous and next note. the positioning atm doesn't make sense. K, so like this has got to be the most emphasized piano key hit in this song, which explains my reasoning to put it in that corner but seeing as how everyone is against it, I'll fix it. Not a big deal because every improvement matters to me no matter how small. Hopefully putting it in the opposite corner makes more sense :^)
stab me in the face for suggesting this but...
01:47:675 (1) - ctrl g
01:49:025 (1) - ^
01:50:225 (1) - ^
imo these 3 changes would make much more sense than your previous ones, as well as improve flow on this elegant part Flow is important here I agree. I've changed the slider shapes to make more sense.

02:23:825 (1,2) - maybe try to improve the entry so that it looks more natural? Can't really see a way to do this without fixing the entire streams or ruining the alignment I got going on with the sliders.
02:44:225 - blue zenith tier streams More like Freedom Diving to Heaven :^)
02:52:475 (15) - whistle intended? Nope, nice catch.
03:21:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - pretty sure not even shigetora can clear this part You'd be surprised at how many people can go through all this.
03:22:625 (1) - speedbuildup from accelerator stream will mess everyone up on this part. just sayin I dunno man, I've seen enough playtests that people have hit things that wouldn't normally look hittable. To me, it fits the section fine.
03:47:825 (1) - place this forward. makes more sense since the next note is also forward not backward. idk I kinda like it how it is right now : x
04:01:025 - memme uranium tier streams
04:39:425 (1) - make the entry point more curved looks fine to me, eh

seeing this map, I now want a Happy End of the World, Blue Zenith and Ascension to Heaven xi megamix.

if this gets ranked I'm gonna Ascend to Heaven
...
no one?
k
Please end yourself

Arphimigon wrote:

No fun allowed squad!

This is a map!
m4m normal mod idc

[Final Moment]
I hate to be REAL picky but that diff name sounds kinda... uninspiring, if you know what I mean. "moment" is pretty dull. Go for something more big, Last Instance or smth. rip
00:05:825 - Very, very clickable. Please end that spinner earlier, and add a hittable beat here. Added for slider to note consistency throughout this section.
00:24:350 (3) - No sound here, can you remove this and start the stream at 00:24:425 - ? It also makes sense because #bigwhiteticks# There's actually a very very faint noise here. I don't like the idea of starting the stream with slider but if it gets brought up again, then maybe I will.
00:33:425 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - If you are gonna NC in sets of four and have a little bit of angle change between them, please do the same for 00:34:250 (4,5) - this bit here for consistency, a NC and a slight edginess to hit it. Not set of 4 but following different noises.
(00:34:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I spotted the copypaste) oh, interesting, it is lmao. wasn't intended but oh wells
00:52:625 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - I like that the first half is higher in spacing than the last streams, but I think the last half should be slightly lower. You use 0.8 for the regular streams, so you can start this spacing increase with 1x DS, and the second half with 0.9. That way there is some indication of that lowering intensity. can't because design
00:56:825 (4,5,6) - I'd make this spacing more even, the jump to 6 is realllllly small, and the jump to 5 is hella big, esp with the angle made. remapped this section
01:05:825 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix the line here, the slider start is not on a straight line! oh woops. fixed
01:21:725 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This should start high spacing, and get lower, how about instead of 1.1 -> 1.2 -> 1.3, you flip it around? I imagined it the opposite really. Sort of a like a last burst of streams before you settle down into the calm part of the song. Yours makes sense too though.
02:32:225 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Would be much preferred if the stack was of length 5, so you start moving on the strong beat wait, stack of 5 would mean that the 6th beat would be the strong beat but here I follow the strong piano that starts on the 5th note so I stacked 4 instead.. ;; now that I'm looking at this some more, I'm not sure what I should do. I might change the stream layout instead.
Since this is gonna be hard streams after here, I left out pitch-relevancy because it would be too hectic and confusing.
02:53:825 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Definately, by far the sharpest stream angle like... everrrrrr. This is a difficulty spike and a half to play right. I'd really try making the angle not so backing on itself. will look more into this, this doesn't pose a problem to the people I've given this map to play. I agree it's very sharp however, though, the overlapping makes it so you have enough time to catch yourself.
03:21:425 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - No mean to be a party pooper, but this stream is wayyyyyy too much of a fast diffspike. I'd like it if the previous section was a bit harder so it wasn't so diffspiking (hint hint) but as of now it literally goes to near double DS at the end. That's DQ bait . I mean like, this map is hella deathstream already, this wouldn't be DQ bait at all. The notes are place to follow the music's intensity. That's all it is, just following the music.
04:01:025 - This whole kiai has a higher pitch than the last kiai but the spacing is basically the same. (remap) can you use like, 1.1 DS? (yes thats fully spaced but it makes sense and is justified to use) Okay, so I actually tried to do this entire kiai at 1.1 DS because I agree it's justifiable, but after a while, it gets ridiculously hard to utilize the editor for the type of streams I'm making because the extra DS ruins a lot of my curves and in summary, it looks terrible. I may try again, but I doubt I'll ever fix this kiai to accommodate the extra DS. I used 1.05 DS because it adds space (barely) but at least I'm able to make some streamy streams without rolling my face around the editor like it was with 1.1.
04:28:625 (1,2,3,4) - Are you sure about this? I'm actually not, so I fixed it. Others pointed it out as well.
04:38:450 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Ya same thing as before, but I feel this is better, due to it already starting pretty hard. I changed the ending a bit to make this feel more welcoming. This kiai should end more intensely than the last.

I r8 out of 8...
6/8! (7.5/10) for nice looking streams, some cool gameplay with sliders, and general niceness overall. Cool.

pishifat wrote:

if you're gonna use pitched hitsounds, you'll need them to have some sort of feedback besides the exact pitches (like combining the piano sounds with the default soft hitnormal or something)
believe it or not, hitsounds that copy the songs exact pitches blend in with the song
especially when they're at 20% volume like 01:55:942 (2) - please sorta kinda editing them atm

00:25:867 (6) - 00:35:467 (6) - 00:30:667 (6) - by using spaced 1/4 everywhere around this it's a pain to tell that object after a 1/4 slider is 1/2 away (especially since people play 1/4 sliders more often than not as if they're circles). a differnet rhythm > idk man theyre hittable
00:28:642 (1,2) - hello 1/2 spacing that looks like it should be 1/4 based on everything prior fixed to circle
00:29:092 (3) - 03:53:692 (5) - 03:58:342 (6) - p sure this is 1/8 dood. i probably missed more like this but yea that bzzz sound isn't 1/6. 00:42:592 (8) - is right probably
00:32:092 (8) - 00:27:292 (8) - whats with the different snappings on same sounds the little electronic noise comes in at the 2nd snapping and the piano at the 3rd. just buildup really.
00:42:592 (8,9) - starting a stream on a blue tick and ending the repeat slider on the emphasized sound you're basically a murderer now have fun in jail damn u xi
03:52:642 (1,2) - sameasthe first thingzzzz fixed

everything else is constant streams
what do i even do here
mostly stuff in the beginning I see but idk, rhythm is hard, feel like you have to undermap in order to play it well otherwise its shit

Rohit6 wrote:

Hello!Since you saw my request for M4M in #modhelp
First I'd like to say ,you've done a wonderful job with the hitsounds

[Final Moment]

00:25:792 (5,6) - Beat priority is messed up because the white tick isnt emphasized as such,which should generally never be the case,I'd suggest placing the slider on red so the red and white tick get correct emphasis There's are two repeating sounds on the blue tick which is why I used the slider to capture both similar beats. It doesn't play all that bad either.
00:26:242 (1) - When you hear it at 25% you can hear the same sound on the sliderstart and end so it doesnt make sense to make it a slider because the same/similar sound on the sliderend doesnt get any emphasis,I'd suggest stacking 2 circles since the sounds are similar/same but this one's upto you because there are piano notes on the big white ticks,but I'd suggest changing these Yeah, I just follow the very dominant piano sound.
00:28:942 (2,3) - I'd suggest adding something on the blue tick like 00:27:142 (7,8) - here,so it'll be more consistent I added something similar and changed around the sliders to make it more structured.
00:30:592 (5,6) - Same as 00:25:792 (5,6)
00:32:692 (4,5) - 4 and the sliderend of 5 have the exact sound but the sliderend isnt clicked,I'd suggest ending the slider on bluetick while silencing the sliderend and putting a circle on the red tick Actually here, the sliderend of (5) captures both beats of (4) and (5)'s beginning. I prefer this way because it doesn't play awkwardly like a double+slider->1/4 note.
00:35:392 (5,6) - Same as 00:25:792 (5,6)
00:47:242 (9,10,11,12) - Might wanna replace these with repeats because this part doesnt feel intense enough for sliderjumps,your choice here I think style here, both work fine I see but I like the diversity in mine because well, the repeat sliders come in later and constantly using repeats gets boring rather quickyl.
01:32:242 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing isnt consistent with 01:27:442 (1,2,3,4) - this Don't think it's a problem but I reduced it by a few pixels if anything.
02:03:667 (2) - Sliderend on a strong beat which needs to be clicked,I'd suggest ending the slider on blue tick and adding a circle on red Fixed this section to include dominant beats as well as missing beats.
02:17:767 (16,1) - Kink it here just like all the previous streams,because you've kinked on all the piano notes So I spent a good deal trying to formulate a stream design that would help flow with the next section but it seems like nothing really works. But yknow, this isn't that bad beceause it's the same key of A (?) that's playing so it can be seen rather passive.
02:24:967 (15,1) - 1 isnt emphasized as well as you'd want it to be,so you should make the angle more sharp here,because instead of turning their cursor at 1,the player will keep moving through the stream like usual Not a big deal here. The idea was to get a sort of buildup into the next part of the music because it gets a little more intense.
02:39:067 (4,1) - I really dont understand why you broke the pattern here I did try to work with it again but it would severely ruin the idea of emphasizing the center with kicks+slider finishes that I had in mind before I mapped this part. I did move the streams around and angles and it wouldn't work so I'd have to remap my idea which I don't want to. This was the closest I could get while continuing what I had going.
02:54:067 (4,5,6) - The kink here is inconsistent because later you've kinked at all the 9's instead of 5's,plus it doesnt fit well here
03:03:442 - This section's kinking doesnt feel very consistent in terms of kinking ,but I guess you've kinked to the pitch change rather than the white ticks/red ticks.Get this checked by someone more experienced in mapping streams
03:58:642 (1,2) - Same as 02:03:667 (2) . The problem with this is half correct emphasis,like you're putting clickable objects on the strong beats which is great but then the same strong beat doesnt get a clickable object which feels lackluster I fixed this part to, to add the clickable beat and also the missing beats.
04:59:033 (1) - This spinner seems kind iffy because at the end, because the music starts to fade out from 04:59:033 (1) and its really unintuitive to extend the spinner into a fade out, imagine spinning 400 rpm on a really quiet section to get a higher combo and not any other reason, I'd suggest ending 05:04:958 here wouldnt be a problem because you've already qualified for minimum drain I think my current drain time is at 5:00:03 so I'm living real close to the edge already lol. Reducing this would mean I'd have to include a spinner in the begging and I don't want to do that really.

Good luck with this map,I hope it gets ranked

BOUYAAA wrote:

hi, took a quick look at your map, giving you some of my thoughts
I'm mostly here for pitch stuff, rest is kind of subjective/minor

00:24:367 (3) - there is no sound here so this would be overmapped i think I'm keeping this here for consistency to the stream. I'd hate to have to start with a slider->stream because it just doesn't look or feel right this early. If BN/QATs find it problematic, I'll see what I can do to fix it.
00:29:017 - there is a strong sound here so you might wanna map it idk. I think it's the only one you missed so ye I fixed this area, yes.
00:51:442 (1) - seeing the kinks you made 00:50:242 (1,7,13) - I'm kinda sad you left the downbeat without one, would be cool if it had such a thing too imo
01:07:942 (5) - pitch seems wrong here (I don't rly hear a piano note here anyways) But there is ;w;
01:10:492 - I hear a piano note here Here it's too soft and changes the pattern of sounds that my map goes by, though, the keysounding is all a WIP still so these suggestions and responses should be taken with a grain of sand.
01:15:142 (13,14,1,13,14,1) - this is kind of bugging me since you use hitsounds to transition into the next measure but you can only click half of them because kick sliders. Not really an issue though
01:52:342 (2) - I'd remove this, there is no real need to add a note here, this is the quiet part anyways The note is here to keep the map moving and not have such weird pauses.
03:08:242 (1,2,3,4,5) - pitch seems wrong here
04:02:542 (5) - I think you should have used kinks like that only when the piano starts a new pattern, i mean that ascending descending in pitch thing. i don't really know how to explain it but you probably get my idea. It's kind of weird because you don't do it all the time either so emphasis is kind of random. here you skipped one for ex 04:07:342 (5) - but mapped one here 04:06:742 (13) -

thank rohit
Gl!

-Lemons wrote:

A mod at your request

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  Edgy Diff Name

1. Sweet merciful jesus these custom hitsounds
2. No color hax? It's so pretty to convey the emotions of the song on this map. During the slower parts you can use the greys you've picked out, the more explosive parts use the blues, and then for the super quick piano explosion you can use like a bright orange or red or something to signify the intensity
3. 00:24:292 (2,3,4,5,6) - I would have these notes be stacked up and then move to the current speed of the stream afterwards just to easy a little more into the explosion of energy that's coming up So I tried to work with this idea a little bit (similar to how I worked the end of the map) and it didn't really feel right just because all the keys are the same level of volume in the song. It also looks very weak into the 'explosion' because the spacing isn't as extended.
4. 00:27:292 (8) - Ctrl g maybe? I think it flows better but up to you Keeping for slightly more emphasis.
5. 00:42:817 (9,10,11,1) - Me personally I play with combo colors on and while I know most people don't, just because of the way the background is so white and the previous part of the combo is white and it overlaps I straight up couldn't ever see this coming, consider NC and using the light blue or something for all 4 of the notes I changed the NCs. As for the color hax, I'll think about that later. The combo colors should reflect the background of the map so having warm colors doesn't seem fitting. I might keep everything white at the beginning and move everything to be their natural colors.
6. 00:44:242 (1) - if you wanna be like super duper nitpicky with yourself at lot of the DS here is like .02 off so you can fix that but it literally changes almost nothing xd
7. 00:45:442 (1) - With how you sort of emphasized the downbeats I would have a nice dip in the stream here to signify some emphasis on it and makie it stand out 00:46:642 (1) - Similar to here as the flow of the stream changes There is no shift in key in the music at this, so I didn't include the kink there. It just kinda goes on.
8. 00:48:892 (12) - Keep the DS progression the same that you used on the previous kick sliders, this note is too close for how fast you've made the cursor travel I think this here is okay lol, the distance seems rather fair.
9. 00:51:142 (13) - Have this style of dip happen at the downbeat instead of here might be cool
10. 01:05:392 (1) - Why does it get faster here? I can kind of hear some background piano or something playing but I can't really hear a reason to increase it by .2 ds That backgroung piano note is exactly why I made it faster. It's a little more special and noticeable than the other keys because it's a high note than the other mid-tone notes I've used already.
11. 01:06:442 (7) - dunno why so close either, it feels like it should just remain pretty quickly here
12. 02:05:842 (1) - So for all this upcoming stream part there's one thing I wanted to note so I don't have to point out every single instance of it, Theres the piano in the background of the noise that your mapping all the streams to, I personally think you should have some form of emphasizing it through a dip in the stream, maybe a complete line of play change for the really really strong ones that are in it. It's fine how it is now but you can make it even better by making sure all the pretty parts get there parts mapped
13. 02:23:992 (2) - So low DS here even tho the piano is goin ham D:
14. 02:38:242 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This is so meaaaaaannnn ;w;
15. 02:44:242 (1) - So from here onward I would just take a look at the streams and make them more dynamic for the music. Right now it's just the same DS the entire time and then some slider shenanigans, to me this just doesn't fit the emotion of the song. I think you should have the DS lower in some parts just to make the parts where the piano explodes even more explosive. Yeah this will kind of lower the overall difficulty but not by much. While looking through this a few times I can somewhat see that the slower parts are usually sliders but idk Im rambling at this point Right, so I came into the song with an idea of using space streams to dominate the chorus of this song, it is after all the most intense part. I did beforehand try to use variable DS but it wouldn't ever feel right so the best I could do would use repeat sliders as it would also help the player regain stamina. I do it my way because it gives the impression that this is where you ascend to heaven, this is the moment of truth.
16. 03:28:642 (1) - Have this be in the hole made by the slider before it for prettiness Repositioning the circles afterward would be hard to work with the slider art. Good idea, but cannot really execute too well.
17. 04:29:842 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - For this part here, I recommend during the part where the piano dips to the lower note that it goes to, use this type of overlap thing 04:15:292 (15,16,1,2,3) -

That's pretty much what I could find to help out. Thank you again for the ideas Lemons. It's unfortunate that a lot of the ideas can't simply work in this difficulty due to the mapping 'style' but perhaps when I map the short ver as a set, I'll be sure to use your ideas and make it feel more wholesome than just 1.0 DS'd streams.

monstrata wrote:

[Moment]

1. 00:29:842 (1) - You've spammed a lot of doubles so i think here, it would be cool to use two circles instead since theres a noticeable triplet on the red tick. Nice rhythm diversity so far thou! I fixed it here and included the missing beats.
2. 00:35:842 (1,2,3) - One thing to be wary of with doubles is that they should be obviously spaced away from sliders so they don't appear like large 1/4 slider-jumps. I would increase the DS here eve a bit more. Compare it with 00:26:242 (1,2) - where you use 2.00x DS. (More ideal imo) Spacing is practically the same as before >>;
3. 00:39:142 (5) - NC? Since you did so for 00:33:442 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - which really helped mark spacing changes. Can't say it really works for this one...
4. 00:40:942 (3,4,5) - Idk about this rhythm. Having 5 begin on 00:41:167 - on the blue tick seems more consistent with the drums.
5. 00:42:592 (8) - You could NC here for that spacing change i mentioned earlier too. I NC'd this.
6. 01:18:142 (2) - Ctrl+G'ing plays pretty well here. I fixed the spacing a little on this part. My idea was to have it gradually glide to that side of that map so ctrl-g wouldn't work. But considering your next suggestion, I fixed some spacing.
7. 01:20:542 (3,4,1,2) - Not really liking the spacing choice you have here. Theyre suddenly much larger than the previous and following kick sliders. Think of them as just circles and you'll see the spacing is kind of odd and a bit random xP. I fixed this part and most definitely fixed the spaced stream that seemed to kill a lot of people. It plays much better now
8. 02:00:142 (1,2,3,4,5) - Feels really overmapped for me xPP It was either this or 10 note streams... I kinda like it this way anyways, brings something different.
9. 02:03:667 (2) - Make this 1/2 and add a circle on the red tick. Plays so well D: Everyone loves this 3/2 rhythm xD Yes, I fixed this part and included the missing beats so it doesn't feel so lackluster.
10. 02:04:267 (4) - ^
11. 02:29:242 (9,10,11,12) - I would arrange them to have the spacing increase instead of decrease since the piano is scaling up and usually that translates to increased spacing I changed the sliders around a little bit.
12. 02:39:067 (4,1) - Would have been nice to see a slight flow break here like you did with the rest of the stream.
13. 02:51:292 (15,1) - Can't really comment too well on stream playability since i suck at them, but this motion seems kind of awkward and really sharp compared to your other stream jumps.
14. 03:06:142 (2) - You could move this down just slightly for a better blanket. Also, the hitburst of the previous stream covers a bit of the repeat arrow so ya move it down a bit if you can. Fixed
15. 03:17:392 (10,11) - A jump here would have been more interesting imo. Cuz of those snares or whatever those drums are I'm not sure about this. I tried working with different shapes and locations but I think what I have is as good as I could get without having to remap further sections of the map.
16. 03:20:542 (3,4) - Spacing's pretty small here D: The pattern with increasing spaced triangles is what I had in mind here ;;
17. 03:22:642 (1) - Niiiice. My one complant tho is this part of the slider's path looks really ambiguous. I don't think the bump before the first loop is that necessary. nuu but my art ;w;
18. 03:58:867 (2,4) - As mentioned earlier.Fixed.
19. 04:17:842 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1) - This is pretty awesome. Thanks, it's my favorite part of the stream xDD

Okay that's it call me back when you're ready!

Osuology wrote:

(PLEASE DO NOT THINK I HATE YOU PLEASE I'M JUST HELPING HOWEVER I CAN M4M ALSO ROFL) okie
00:25:792 (5,6) - I'm not sure as to why you should be doing this this way. Using a triplet is better IMO because it follows the accentuation and music theory appropriately. It's really weird to play a triple after a slider despite it being a blue-ended slider. The sounds in the kick are repeated twice, so I used the kick slider to capture both beats.
00:27:292 (8) - Also not sure why this is 1/6. I can't hear anything that's 1/6 and that BG noise is really just one beat that's dragged out. I swear I heard it as 1/6..and I feel like it still is, though, it doesn't pose a problem in terms of playability so I think I'll keep it...
00:33:442 (1,2,3,4) - Once again I can't hear this in the song. The sounds are there ;w;
00:47:242 (9,10,11,12) - Perhaps you should work out the accentuation with this map. Patterns see to be fine, but as to streams and 1/4... not so well. These don't really deserve to be here. Change for maybe a repeating slider or a different pattern of triplets etc.
00:53:842 (1) - Starting here you did a good job of mapping these.
01:27:592 (2,3) - Why? why I cannot hear anything for these to be justified. I realize you might want to be consistent but please it doesn't match the song unless you hear something. I'm almost certain there is a soft piano playing in the back here...I wish xi would reply to my email already ;w;
Also DS seems a little low for this section 02:05:842 (1) - \ Changed the DS of former notes to make this a little bigger. It did bug me a little.
02:44:242 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - Volume is too low, maybe it's also because you use soft here which isn't recommendable by me, use normal here.
03:22:642 (1) - BIOLOGY LESSON ON HOW GOAT'S INTESTINES LOOK ROFL (this isn't bad just saying lol) I don't even wanna know ;_;
03:36:892 (9) - Here it would be nice if a slider was here like 1/4 slider that is 1/4 slider would overmap the slider-end beat.
03:49:042 (1) - Move this to 352 164 I think the jump was too much I kinda wanted the jump to be bigger seeing as how the note is also deeper.
03:51:592 (2,1) - Jeez, that's a bit much for a jump
04:21:892 (7) - This is offscreen I think along with 04:24:742 (13) - This is as low as it can go in editor without being offscreen. Had it been a slider then it would've been bad.
04:30:892 (15,3) - Ok, look out for these they aren't rankable as far as I know (3) is okay, I fixed (15) by 2 pixels so it's not offscreen.
Ok dat's it. Sorry it wasn't much! I did my best to look for anything that bothered me so.. ye

sheela901 wrote:

Hey Kroytz!

First, I want to say good job with the hitsounds! Okay, I'm not sure if you used a hitsound splitter program, or you just manually add them (impossible though!), but it remains a very neat and beautiful map. *claps* Thanks, it took a longass time xD

[General]

1. According to Sieg's Modding Assissant program, the following list is unused hitsounds:
   
   1. soft-hitnormal40.wav
   2. soft-hitnormal41.wav
   3. soft-hitnormal42.wav
   4. soft-hitnormal43.wav
   5. soft-hitnormal44.wav
   6. soft-hitnormal45.wav
   7. soft-hitnormal46.wav
   8. soft-hitnormal47.wav
   9. soft-hitnormal48.wav
   10. soft-hitnormal6.wav
   11. soft-sliderslide.wav
   All I can say is that soft-sliderslide.wav is not used because all I can see in the timing panel are mostly S, instead of S:C1. For the others, well, you'll have to check manually sadly. Removed all the ones I haven't used. I might add back 41-48 depending if there are missing pianos that I haven't covered yet.
2. There are inherit timing lines that are unsnapped:
   
   1. 02:36:963
   2. 04:48:138

Fixed.

[Final Moment]

1. There are objects in less denser parts with only a piano key hitsound, but because the piano key is similar (or exactly) to the note in the music, it makes a less proper feedback to the players. I played the map and it felt weird and bad to click on the note without any other sound than the note taken in the music. Here are notes I've crossed during the gameplay. I suggest you add whistles.
   
   1. 01:27:142 (4) - Added the ones like this 01:28:492 (6) - 01:32:542 (3) - Didn't add the ones like this because I had a Whistle->Whistle->nothing->Drum-Finish pattern going on. 01:33:292 (6) - and more until 01:44:242 -
   2. 03:31:042 (1,3) - (You didn't added here, but you did to 04:47:842 (1,3) -) - 03:39:292 (4) - Fixed these to look identical and consistent.
2. 00:58:942 (5) - I think it fits better if this is two circles. In the previous rhythms, you used kicksliders when the piano has a higher pitch, for instance 00:55:942 (7,8) - 00:57:292 (8,1) - 00:57:892 (6,1) - 00:58:492 (6,1) - . They make a good emphasis on the high notes of the instrument. But 00:58:942 (5) is a kickslider, however there is no piano sounds. So I don't think having a jump between 00:58:942 (5,6) will follow anything. You're somewhat correct. The reason behind the kicks I used are so it fits the dominant sound here 00:57:442 (1) - 00:58:042 (1) - 00:58:642 (1) - | I used (6) as the stream instead and not another kick because then there would be a pattern I'd have to follow that the music doesn't suggest. I feel as if the stream continues off of (5), then (1) doesn't get the proper continuation as the others did. However, I did fix, 00:56:842 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - to be more stream oriented with only the kick at the end to be a little more similar to this 00:59:092 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - hopeully there's more consistency to the music like that.
3. 01:32:692 (4) - Perhaps this note should move closer to 01:32:542 (3) -, like x:167 y:70? You did for 01:27:742 (3,4) -, but I felt something wrong when the spacing is big. I can't explain why, but it has to be with the piano lel. I moved the notes around a little to be similar to your idea.
4. 01:52:642 (1,2) - This is personal in this matter, but I don't really like the ugly overlap pattern to be honest. Maybe space them like this: Good suggestions, however, I used a different non-overlapping method to combat this. I felt the overlap would bring something more interesting but I kind of like my new one more too tho.
5. 02:20:317 (2,3,4) - This may not be the right time to place a curve, as you really don't have anything strong on 02:20:392 (3) -, only maybe 02:20:242 (1) or 02:20:542 (5) . I suggest you start curving on 02:20:242 (1) which would make more sense to the music. A simple curve should do the trick: I like the curve idea because it makes sense to the music. I like my idea because it adds a sort of
6. 03:56:692 (2) - Oh oh, I think the hitcircle is not supporting anything in the music. Removing it should do the trick, but you have to move 03:56:242 (1) somewhere else, I guess. I want this 'overmap' to be consistent with 03:57:892 (2) - which follows a faint background noise that the former doesn't support. But even then, the sound is so faint that the latter wouldn't need be necessary either, so I used whistles to help accentuate the lack of rhythm in this section which I think works fine. Otherwise, this rhythm-less gap is too large and the section might feel rather lackluster.
7. 04:17:842 to 04:20:242 - Oh my gawh I love this effect. Yooo I tell everyone that these triple C's are my favorite <3333
8. 04:39:442 (1) - Okay here. Like, you have to tell me the secret here. I forgot to mention 03:22:642 (1) too. xDD I was talking to Slick about this because my previous sliders for this section were really lame, so I spent a good 30min each trying to do some 'art' and really, I just yolo'd some stuff. For the first, I thought mixing a loop and a large curve would be cool and keeping the lines close together. For the 2nd, I thought using two loops would be cool because I never see people use multiple loops that much. Personally, I prefer the first slider.

Cool! Let me know when you have updated so I can recheck it!

strickluke wrote:

Decided to try and mod this because I want it ranked as quickly as possible then let the BNs and I work together >>

Key

1. Green means my opinion or aesthetic
2. Purple means semi important
3. Red means very important

General

1. 03:59:917 (1) - Maybe change the preview point to here. Another good spot to put it could be here 02:04:717 (1) -

I had it on the former but I changed it to where it is now because I like the delicacy of the piano.

Final Moment

1. 03:22:642 (1) - Sliders at the end of this are somewhat hard to read sometimes, and it would be stupid if someone were to FC through the streams and lose it due to these. Maybe you could slow down the slider velocity and make slider art that doesn't overlap itself. its literally just a loop and and a large curve going inwards lol. If a player can read up to this point, they can most definitely read this slider. Besides, I really like this one and I doubt I'll ever change it. ^.^
   
   
2. 04:39:442 (1) - There is a chance that the player could be jumpy due to the recent extremely difficult spaced streams. I would suggest lowering the SV and recreating another slider art that doesn't overlap itself. As fitting as a slow slider seems, it loses intensity for all this build up. I like my art as well, overlap isn't a problem here, it's just another loop.
   
3. 02:00:092 (1,2,3,4,5) Maybe change this pattern to this because it's how most people would be used to playing star patterns "isn't that how like any preschool kid is taught to draw a star anyway?" -Side well yknow, maybe my teacher taught us differently :v A star is still a star and I'll keep mines lol
   
   
4. 02:59:692 (15) - Random slider in this particular stream pattern, maybe change to another sharp turn. (I know you use this in other patterns but it was the only one I saw for this stream)streamsss

That's all I can really find, I hope this gets ranked. The amount of time you put into this map is amazing, I couldn't ever do anything this great. Good luck! Thank you!!