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Bere
BRASIL HYPE :)
kuur0

Karuta- wrote:

Si1entKiTTeh wrote:

Correct me if i'm wrong. But isn't this the first time Canada has made it to the round of 16 :o
dear me, I wouldn't have noticed that cause Canada played so well against England in owc 2013 so I would have thought that they have been able to make it
Canada for the past few years seemed to always have a really tough group apparently... So Canada hypee hope they can make it far this year.
-Ryuujii-

Bere wrote:

BRASIL HYPE :)
^

people seem to forget Brazil has always performed well. Even since OWC #1 :)
Jetzu
Will you publish stats on how many banners for each team were bought? Would be nice to see teams with biggest "following" on here.
fabriciorby

-Ryuujii- wrote:

Bere wrote:

BRASIL HYPE :)
^

people seem to forget Brazil has always performed well. Even since OWC #1 :)
owc #1 bring me feels
let's talk about owc #2 it makes me better
CXu
Remember when Norway made it out of groups.
And met Korea.
And it was single elimination.
it was sad.
Nwolf

CXu wrote:

Remember when Norway made it out of groups.
And met Korea.
And it was single elimination.
it was sad.
Got Poland this year : D





but double elimination
Athrun
Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....

If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
Xayne
If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
Jetzu

Xayne wrote:

If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.
chainpullz

Jetzu wrote:

Xayne wrote:

If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.
^
Forz's rank decay strategy seems to have fooled the community into thinking Austria isn't a top tier team kek.
kuur0
Rank doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament/multiplayer setting in the first place lol... Other than seedings maybe.

edit: for now
buny
rank means a lot more in the higher stages of the tournament, because the maps are harder



in the early stages, lower ranks are more than capable of fcing the maps with good accuracy. I'd say the rank gap in the finals will be quite clear
Xayne

Jetzu wrote:

Xayne wrote:

If you would have told me that USA vs. Taiwan would have been a first round matchup in the knockout stage two months ago, I would have slapped you for stupidity. Crazy how things change. Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament.
Not like Taiwan would beat Austria with Score v1... They lost the maps against 3/4 FCs, mangekyou would probably be close (as it was now) but other than that Austria would still win, they are just top tier team in disguise.
Are you a psychic and knew Taiwan was going to be grouped with a team like Austria two months ago?
chainpullz

kuur0 wrote:

Rank doesn't mean a whole lot in a tournament/multiplayer setting in the first place lol... Other than seedings maybe.

edit: for now
It depends a lot on the map pool. Players like Hvick/WWW/Rafis/Axarious/Elysion/etc are capable of playing much much more difficult maps than most of the lower ranking players. It's feasible to pick a map pool such that only these players are even capable of passing the map. I expect lower ranked players to get weeded out as the map pool gets progressively more difficult but also expect extremely under-ranked players like omgforz to stay strong.
shortpotato

chainpullz wrote:

It's feasible to pick a map pool such that only these players are even capable of passing the map.
lel
Jetzu

Xayne wrote:

Are you a psychic and knew Taiwan was going to be grouped with a team like Austria two months ago?
You saying "Scorev2 has really impacted some teams this tournament." implied that Taiwan (or USA) would have different standing if OWC used Score v1, I just replied to it saying that Austria would still win with Score v1, if I was wrong in my understanding then I don't understand why you'd say anything about Score v2 in the first place.
zyvik_old
We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!
That's some long shortly...
Plz tell me where to send my moneyz.
buny

zyvik wrote:

We are aiming to have a minimum $5,000 cash prize pool for this world cup. We will be announcing a way you can help raise funds for the prize pool shortly, so stay tuned!
That's some long shortly...
Plz tell me where to send my moneyz.
profile banners..

it's been out since groups, they're $2.50USD i believe in osu store
zyvik_old

a loli wrote:

profile banners..

it's been out since groups, they're $2.50USD i believe in osu store
Ty, I had no idea that such thing exsists... Well, I belive its time to update wiki then
Makan1

Athrun wrote:

Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....

If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?
Arf

Makan1 wrote:

Athrun wrote:

Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....

If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?

I recall Blue Zenith in the 2014 finals, not sure about 2013 though.
VnSoul

Makan1 wrote:

Athrun wrote:

Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....

If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?
Yeah they picked Freedom Dive as a warmup and cptnXn, Cookeasy were the only one who could actually play it xD, not too sure about blue zenith though, I think the other warmup was a different map
Athrun

Makan1 wrote:

Athrun wrote:

Oh no. Hong Kong vs Germany....

If I remember correctly... Hong Kong lost to Germany back in 2013.
;W;
yeah they did ;w; but that was still an exciting match to watch though! iirc they picked freedom dive for warm up and mb blue zenith?
didn't fir3ko/firmament use HR? Holy crap.
bahoopla
Placing bets on Poland.... But have I support team USA on my profile..... USA!
Xayne
BURGERS BOIS
Athrun
Rucker and Uan are brothers :O

Never knew that.
defiance
OWC is rigged guys
Electoz
Ztrot : What have we done!?
and I was like falling off the chair just from laughing at the commentators.
Xayne
What a match. My heart can't take more of this.
deadbeat


spread the love boys
juankristal

deadbeat wrote:



spread the love boys
;w;

I'M SO SORRY ;W;
Athrun

deadbeat wrote:

defiance

deadbeat wrote:



spread the love boys
Sleeman
Don't let your dreams be memes
Railey2
that was pretty great
Athrun
What I've learnt from the first few matches.

- Rucker and Uan are brothers
- Commentator's curse is no longer a myth
- #blamejuan
- the osu community is still inflicted with the dadada and TATOE memes
atsuikoneko
yay :)
Athrun
HONG KONG DID IT. THEY FINALLY BEAT GERMANY!!!
Yauxo
Well, that UK warmup escalated qu-O-oooooooooo AAAAE-A-A-I-A-U- JO-oooooooooooo AAE-O-A-A-U-U-A- E-eee-ee-eee AAAAE-A-E-I-E-A-JO-ooo-oo-oo-oo EEEEO-A-AAA-AAAA
kuur0

Athrun wrote:

HONG KONG DID IT. THEY FINALLY BEAT GERMANY!!!
woo! Now China next up :x
Shinri Gakusha
can't wait for Norway vs Poland
Novalogic
Poland the only team which haven't lost a single map so far?
Topic Starter
Loctav
wiki is updated o/
Feerum

deadbeat wrote:



spread the love boys
haha lol
fabriciorby

Loctav wrote:

wiki is updated o/
thank you loctav <3
buny
so do the upper bracket play the RO16 mappool again, or the quarter finals mappool

nvm, the layout of the brackets on the wiki confused me for a bit
Athrun
Hong Kong is vsing against China.

Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
CXu
Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
Trosk-

deadbeat wrote:



spread the love boys
Topic Starter
Loctav

CXu wrote:

Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)
Heinzen

Loctav wrote:

CXu wrote:

Will we be playing with HDv2 in QF?
After said survey among all participants, we will push hidden v2 to multiplayer again. Far over 90% agreed with going there. (I think it's on CE already)

Thank god
Endaris
I loved the mappool showcase with Chippy and ToGlette xD
I'm very excited for Poland vs Austria with the mappool being somewhat hard now.
Nwolf
rippy chippy
Ulysses

Athrun wrote:

Hong Kong is vsing against China.

Hong Kong attempting to have independence against china?!?!
We have already got independence in this game.
Rajten
The hype is real
Athrun
RIP Hong Kong.

Four FCs in Hong Kong against two FCs in China at Dream Walker.

#Neverforget
Kor3ry3-Kun
Azer vs Hvick United
So close
Canada wins, Never forget Taiwan
chainpullz
Canada intentionally took that to 9 maps because a win by any method other than dank memes would not be a win at all. #calculated
blaze-x
I think you should update the "home" and the scheme of the OWC after each match. It would be better ;)
Endaris

blaze-x wrote:

I think you should update the "home" and the scheme of the OWC after each match. It would be better ;)
I don't think so, people(I) may want to watch the matches on the VoD without spoiling themselves by looking at the wiki.
That's also why I'd like people in this thread to put results into spoilerboxes cause I checked this thread to see if Loctav already updated the wiki(like he announced last time) and if I could open it up without danger and LOOK AT THAT SPOILERS.
Topic Starter
Loctav
wiki updated. Brackets will be updated whenever cache clears (might take a day or two)
YodaSnipe
I am so incredibly proud of Team Canada this year :)
Kor3ry3-Kun
Looking at the Bracket image and there is already 1 mistake it should be loser of bracket L is not Austria but South Korea. Please fix this
gr0t
Guess what needs to be fixed :P
http://puu.sh/lv2Bt/70ec2fc8c8.jpg

Kor3ry3-Kun wrote:

Looking at the Bracket image and there is already 1 mistake it should be loser of bracket L is not Austria but South Korea. Please fix this
Damn ninjas

Anyway, it sucks we had only one tiebreaker this round :( Semi-finals tiebreaker isnt as awesome as united :(
Xayne
Loctav, just a heads up that the bracket displays South Korea in the loser's bracket in Austria's place.
The Emperor
Froslass
RIGGED
Kor3ry3-Kun

Blue Dragon wrote:

RIGGED
RIGGED
Ddraigon
Taiwan get lose 2 times in a row with 2 TB in a row.

Poor Taiwan.


Poland such a monster
Topic Starter
Loctav

Kor3ry3-Kun wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

RIGGED
RIGGED
FIXED
Xayne

Loctav wrote:

Kor3ry3-Kun wrote:

RIGGED
FIXED
SAVED
Minhtam

Xayne wrote:

Loctav wrote:

FIXED
SAVED
FREE AT LAST
Senko-san
Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
deadbeat

Hiicantpk wrote:

Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
buny

deadbeat wrote:

http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
thanks for supporting nz guy
Senko-san

deadbeat wrote:

Hiicantpk wrote:

Probably a silly question, but how do I put the "I support team X" banner on my profile? Is it only for people participating in the event?
http://store.ppy.sh/store/product/38
Thanks :D
buny


pls fix landscape
deadbeat
Xayne
I can feel the Freedom intensifying...
Makan1
congratz china! this is pt.1 done
Rajten
Poland hype train :c
Playing at 10 am must have been hard for them :/

Wp China
Kor3ry3-Kun
6-2 curse is real
-N a n a k o-
Welcome to Skystar World Cup 2015
fartownik
this mappool sucks dick
Zak
Such constructive criticism
HaibokuShounen

fartownik wrote:

this mappool sucks dick
chill bro u mad
buny
anyone have the new mappool?
Niva
http://osu.ppy.sh/mp/20593606

(not all are the highest respective diffs star-rating wise on the mapset btw, FREEDOM DiVE is [Another] and Kakumeisei ousama densenbyou is [AngelHoney's Extra] if I recalled correctly)

EDIT : And Asymmetry as well (being [Asphewin's Expert])
Karuta-_old_1

fartownik wrote:

this mappool sucks dick
Because he doesn't need to say anything more to get his points across
if it is for other rounds it would be okay

but for the finals? ouch
buny
messiah dt <3
Topic Starter
Loctav
Wiki has been updated!
fartownik

Zak wrote:

Such constructive criticism
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.
Reyvateil

fartownik wrote:

Zak wrote:

Such constructive criticism
You will see why when you watch the first match with this mappool.
Yeh. I still remember Histy's tournament finals. That wasn't very fun to watch.
Athrun
This mappool looks so cancerous.

Grats to Hong Kong! First time they have made it to the finals!
buny
there are too many wildcard maps
Topic Starter
Loctav
Define "wildcard"
buny

Loctav wrote:

Define "wildcard"
First of all, i'm pretty certain i used the wrong word to describe this. Secondly, I want to make it clear that in no way am i saying the map pool is good or bad

before i start, there are about 2-3 maps in the pool I haven't played. Basically (how i see it) a lot of the maps are either jumps, streams, or require alternating, and hardly a combination of those.

rubik's cube, once again, yuyu metal, require heavy alternating skills. The rohi map also requires decent alternating on the 1/3s. A team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.

perthed again is basically a low bpm version of cheatreal. Perthed again, king for a day, messiah, muteki no soldier consists of nearly only 1/2 jumps. Again, a team could effectively have half their picks specialised in one area.

this year there are only a handful of maps that require well balanced skill sets, but that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking








the pool last year was fun, because a lot of the maps required the player to be skilled in many aspects of the game; stamina, speed, accuracy, aim etc. A lot of the maps this year require excelling in only one aspect, which is considered a bore to many players

once again:

that doesn't necessarily mean the mappool this year is bad. It could lead to teams adjusting lineups which could be a good thing for the viewers (we get to see the more specialised players) and more strategy around picking
chainpullz
I think going forward I like the idea of maps with more specific focuses at least in the later rounds of OWC. I think it's a tricky thing to pull off in group stage for example because each team, for better or worse, is only able to form a team consisting of members of a single country. Some countries have enough players to qualify for competing in OWC but might struggle to even come up with 4 players consistent enough to do well. Thus, picking less generalized maps for the map pool hurts these small countries the most because whatever their 4 players are able to play is all they are able to play.

On the other hand, we see countries like the United States and Poland who have very deep rosters this year such that they have more specialized players to rotate in depending on what maps are picked/banned. I think on top of this, it encourages players who want to compete in OWC in the future to consider investing a lot of time into specializing in some of the less popular skills that are not as well rewarded by the PPv2 system. Instead of thoughts like "I'll never be able to play in the OWC because I'll never be as good at everything as players W X Y Z" it fosters thoughts such as "I may not ever be able to surpass player X in general, but if I can at least prove my self in niche skill A then I can actually be of use for my country."

So I think finding the balance in which stage of the OWC to start shifting to a more skill specific map pool is something that should continue to be evaluated as the player base improves and grows.
CXu
Also encouraging player switches is nice. There's a reason a team is 8 players and not 4. Sucks to be the 4 that never plays.
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